I have watched several of these type of presentations: "Don't talk to the police. Don't open the door. Don't say anything to the police because it can be distorted, twisted, taken out of context, etc." By the behavior and actions described, the police have themselves created an atmosphere of distrust against law enforcement, even among honest, law-abiding people, and this has now created an escalating cycle of cynicism. Many people assume law enforcement always has ulterior motives and can not be trusted in any way. All I can say is I will never talk to a cop again without representation. I am sure many others feel the same way. Sad that it has come to the point where the cops can't be trusted.
Can you tell us your story Cal? I'm just curious.......and yeah, unfortunately, I share your same sympathies.....you know that ol' county saying....one bad apple!
Unfortunately, the police are legally allowed to lie to you about evidence they have, the law, and what your rights are. Plus they train in deception and manipulation. You can't trust a liar, and if that liar can put you in jail, best not to interact with them at all.
Bravo Sir!!!! i can't tell you how many times i am in my basement and i get knock on my door and i simply do not answer it. If I am expecting someone i will answer it. My friends all know to call before they come over. Just dont answer the door. this policy has never hurt me or caused my any issues. People need to stop answering the door.
I understand the thinking behind that strategy. And if I could see (without answering the door) that it's the police, I would be inclined to agree. HOWEVER, if you believe it's NOT the police, then here's some unsolicited advice that I urge you/everyone to consider: The first thing a burglar or home intruder does before forcefully breaking into your home is knock on your front door-usually more than once. If there's no answer, they will look around, maybe even try to casually take a peek inside, etc.; they may even go around back to scope things out before their next move. And failing to get an answer, that next move will be to kick in the back door, the front door, or possibly break a window to gain entrance. This is the moment that you dreaded-especially if it's your child who is home all alone. Answering a "knock at the door" doesn't necessarily mean *opening* the door; it simply means *answering* the knock with something like, "Who is it? What do you want? Sorry, I can't help you." If they persist, that's the time to start dialing 9-1-1 as you, or your loved one, prepare to defend yourself/themselves. Think this through *before* the time comes. _Discuss possible scenarios with your family._ Yes, maybe even go outside and 'play the bad guy' as you role play with your children. _It could mean the difference between life and death._
Then they do the "wellness check". Fortunately the Supreme Court has limited that to some degree. Also you have to verbally assert your 5th amendment rights - silence is not sufficient and can be used to infer guilt. Also don't answer any questions because once you start, your later silence can be used to infer guilt.
@@jackburton37211 I get plenty of unexpected knocks on the door that are either benign or beneficial. One neighbor knocked to tell me that my daughter's chicken had escaped the yard so that I could capture the offending fowl and return her to the coop. Another knock was to warn me that the neighbor's house was on fire -- for some reason the FD had come without sirens and thus hadn't woken me up. A knock to let me know that the insurance inspectors had finished with the property next door and I was free to go take the fence panels I'd wanted. My neighbor telling me that my mail had been mis-delivered to his house. Another neighbor asking if his mail had been delivered by accident to my house. (Yes, it had.) A neighbor asking if I could move my car so a delivery truck would have room to back in. Twice the knock was the cops: once to ask about a murder in the neighborhood and if I had seen anything at the time the gunshots had rung out, and once to tell me that somebody was about to have my car towed if I didn't move it from in front of her vacant lot. (This actually led to me negotiating renting a parking spot on the vacant lot, six feet in front of my door. VERY convenient and if I hadn't gone to the door I'd have had to deal find out that my car had been towed off when I went to leave for work the next morning.) And that's not counting all the times that it's my daughter, son-in-law, or one of my grandchildren.
I work for an attorney now. I can't tell you how many, so many of our clients who spoke to the police. The main evidence was what our client said. Do not talk to the police
@@darcboy1398 Same happened to me. I was a whistle blower. When I quit my job and wrote a letter to the FBI about my suspicions they did nothing. Then just as statutes of limitations were almost runned out they charged everyone including me. Never never talk to law enforcement.
Yes In MY COUSIN VINNY, when arrested Billy when questioned says "I shot the clerk?" ???? Says it twice as a question, but was mistaken as a confession. So you never know how your answers are perceived, thus, SHUT UP AND DONT TALK without a lawyer.
Do not joke around with law-enforcement. A friend of mine is a defense lawyer, and he says that is the one message he would like to send to everyone. His example is: a highway or traffic cop pulls Mr. Future-Client over, and tests him for DWI. The cop administers "test-A". Mr. Future-Client passes, but, he's been cracking jokes, in an effort to make the cop feel comfortable and friendly. After he passes, he says, without thinking: "Well, I'm glad you didn't make me go through [test-B]; I can't do that one even when I'm sober!" DING DING DING DING DING!!! Mr. Future-Client has just ADMITTED that he is NOT sober NOW. He's arrested and doesn't have a prayer of beating the rap. The prosecutor doesn't have to do a damm thing in order to convict, so, the defense lawyer's only bargaining chip for getting an easier plea-deal (give my client probation with no prison time and I'll have him plead guilty and save you the trouble of having to build a case for trail) is GONE.
@@colonelfredpuntridge8799 First of all Field Sobriety Tests are VOLUNTARY, if "Mr. Future-Client" is stupid enough to take the tests, we can dispense with any self incriminatory statements he makes later.
I appreciate you saying, “Any police officer that gets upset in this situation…Not a good police officer.” There are many officers that get upset with citizens for exercising their rights. Not only that but they say that a citizen is being disorderly.
Yeah they have a bunch of phrases to make you feel like you're wrong for not talking to them. I've seen a video posted recently where the cops said to "come out to prove their innocence!" Didn't know we're guilty until proven innocent.
Rule #1 Never open your door for anyone you are not expecting Rule # 2 Always follow Rule #1 From Karate Kid II The rules of Karate in the Myagi Dojo, slightly modified.
Your lawyer is the one to stab you in the back while standing by your side. Do not trust "your"lawyer."But he's my Siamese twin!" Do... not... trust ... him( or her)
@Boz Scaggs Higher probability? Ha, do you know anything about science and probability? According to scientific probabilities God MUST exist. Do you want proof? I can provide it. Or do you want to remain blind and dumb? God gives you a choice, choose wisely. Eternity is too long to be wrong!
@Boz Scaggs I am a retired Engineer / Scientist. I have been in this field over 32 years. I follow scientific evidence and discovery. So here is what we know: Scientists say that any probability less than 1 in 10^150th is an impossibility. That is one chance in 10 with 150 zeros after it. That is a HUGE number. We don't even have a name for it. We call that a googleplex. Thus Google. After taking into account the intricate balance of all the constants and variables, all the things that must have been and are required for us to exist in this VAST universe, we (scientists) find that for all of this to just happen randomly is 1 chance in 10^450th. That is 10^300th smaller likelihood then the limit of possibility. It is so vanishing small a probability that it is impossible. A higher being, vastly more intelligent than us, outside of the universe, created ALL of this "stuff". I can get into more detail if you want. Most people don’t understand probability that well. Most people don’t grasp how large these numbers are (10^150th is a number larger than the number of atoms in the universe). But I thought I would keep it simple for now. Do you understand now why there MUST be God? A creator who exists outside of this universe? And why it’s impossible that we should be here let alone space aliens?
KNOCK KNOCK WHO'S THERE POLICE WHAT DO YOU WANT WE JUST WANT TO TALK DO YOU HAVE A WARRANT NO HOW MANY POLICE ARE THERE 2 COOL - GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND TALK TO EACH OTHER.
And they certainly don’t go away after one knock. I had one pound on my door for nearly 10 minutes straight. When he finally left, I had to tighten the hinges back up.
@@bubbasouth69 YES!! POUND AND IF YOU DO NOT ANSWER.. COME RIGHT BACK THE NEXT AM (IN FRONT OF ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS TO EMBARRASS AND TERRORIZE YOU ) WITH 8 COP CARS.. THIS HAPPENS IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS..EXSEPT THE BIG CITIES..THEN THEY COME IN 1 CAR.. AND IF YOU KNWO PEOPLE... MAKE A CALL. BUT, IF YOU ARE "OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT" THIS "SO-CALLED" COPS WILL STICK SO FAR UP YOUR ASS! THEY ALL SUCK, THEY ALL LIE FOR ONE ANOTHER, FACT!
He left out the most important thing? When they knock on your door. You say how can I help you, or who is it? Next they will ask you to open the door. But you tell them I can hear you fine, how can I help you, what do you want? No matter what they tell you. You do not open the door, you do not allow them to enter your home.
@@javoss123 you have no clue to how they can use forced entry, if you fail to respond in a timely manner, they can say they felt your life was in danger, or unconscious. And they needed to use forced entry to ensure your well-being. This is how they get away with breaking out a window or door! I actually spoke to a law enforcement officer about this subject matter.
@@MissionaryForMexico unless it was a call for a domestic or a wellness call, I'm pretty sure I could break their qualified immunity on that, and I would have them charged for breaking and entering. It would be interesting to try. 😁
Heres how to handle no warrant police encounters: "please leave my property. I do not answer questions without an attorney present. If you have cause to detain me please say so otherwise get off my property." Like he said DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR! Police will find a reason to arrest you if you do. Police do NOT know your rights or care. Thats not their job. Their job is to arrest you. Do not treat this as a "sales" call. You will lose in the end and it will cost you your life. Treat it as what it is. An intrusion by a dangerous and criminal gang.
@Brett Madison “So and all was attached on a misdemeanor charge of obstructing the police and booked in jail.” His job was notified of his arrest and he was fired immediately.
I like what you said: that the police officers themselves would never allow another police officer to come in and walk through their home. If you ever have an issue with them trying to "sell" themselves into your home, use that line! They'll probably lie to your face about how they WOULD allow them in, but you know that that is not true. Remember also, police officers are allowed to lie to to you, Supreme Court has ruled that to be allowed.
@@davidjones8942 Because that is how twisted our justice system is. Those that have the best lawyers can usually win in court. Look at Mr. Trump and how he drug out paying contractors for work in Atlantic city to the point some of them got nothing.
My scenario.... 1. KNOCK KNOCK (I get up from my sofa and go to the door, look out my blind or keyhole and see two police officers knowing that if they had a warrant they would not have politely knocked) 2. I ignore the knocking and go back to my sofa and resume my TV program #ThatWasEasy
You just glossed over a very important aspect of this by just throwing it in at the last second when you said "and go about your business". A major mistake most people attempting to assert their rights in these situations make is that they don't just walk away and go about their business after they do it. They stay at the door and continue to engage with the police, screaming and arguing with them, and quite often answering all sorts of questions after getting frustrated. Part of the fishing expedition of a knock and talk is to do precisely that. Get the person frustrated and agitated so that they'll either eventually concede and allow questioning/entry, or they'll do or say something the police think they can plausibly claim established probable cause negating the need for a warrant.
Good points! Every word you say is being used against you before you even get to court - the less said the better. I would add to smile as you turn away, let them know in no uncertain terms you know the game they are playing.
One of the most frightening things I’ve ever seen was during the search for the Boston Marathon Bombers. Police officers from all over the Commonwealth and surrounding states were bussed in, and went door to door through neighborhoods in Cambridge, Somerville and Belmont knocking on doors and searching houses. There was no warrant. Just a lot of frightened residents who were told by the Governor to shelter in place. This was something reminiscent of Nazi Germany. I never thought something like this could have ever happened in the United states. Literally thousands of armed police rifling through peoples homes with no authorization whatsoever. And to this day, it hasn’t been challenged in court. Unbelievable! The irony was with all of that, they failed to catch the person they were looking for. It was only after the search had been called off that a local resident went in his back yard and noticed the cover on his boat had been disturbed. He notified police. They came en mass and instead of searching the boat, opened fire and shot hundreds of rounds into the boat, not knowing who or what might be in it. After the fact the man whose boat was destroyed by gunfire got a new boat. Not from the government. From the a boat manufacturer!
@Dr. J how's that for irony? We are more of a police state than Nazi Germany was.... I have long said, "what is the universal classic sound of government opression? ''Papiere, Bitte', in English: 'Papers Please' and what do American police say when they walk up to your car? 'License, registration, and proof of insurance' ...... at least the Nazi's said plesse!!!
@@DrJ-hx7wv you have never made a more incorrect statement in your entire life. A simple Google search would have showed you that there are hundreds if not thousands of examples where ze Nazis went through people's homes, business and effects. But beware there is much violence described and may make you think they were much worse...much much worse.
I’m from around Boston and was near the bombing. Not a good example of nazi’s . I went into work in Boston the lock down day. I wasn’t stopped , only in Watertown was a area closed off. Most people stayed off the streets because we were asked to… there was no enforcement.
I know a lot of cops...I come from a long line of cops... That being said, NEVER let a cop into your home! This attorney is giving great advice here, but as a former security specialist, I recommend adding a home security system that includes overt cameras. Overt cameras will help ease police officers in the right direction when they can see that they are being monitored. Video surveillance is super affordable these days and based on many police home invasion incidents that have occurred over the last couple of years, it's a smart choice. Many police officers have lied about incidents only to find out that video surveillance contradicts their version. These particular police officers only lied because they didn't know they were being monitored. However, if a cop knows that they're being watched right from the start, believe me, they're on their best behavior. It is better that police walk away in fear of surveillance than have them get caught in a lie after they already have done something to you or your family!
Lying police seems to be the problem then. If law enforcement actually enforced laws and were honest people then we wouldn't be having this problem. If an officer is caught lying they should lose their job. The kind of person who is to enforce laws or preside as over other passing judgement needs be practically superhuman when it comes to character and integrity or they are unfit for the job.
@@lexpox329 No, lying police is not the problem, sir. The problem is that people don't exercise their rights, and cops use everything they get, LEGALLY, against them. Case in point, several weeks ago when Alec Baldwin shot that woman on the Rust film set, he should have shut up immediately! He had zero obligation to speak with police, so he shouldn't have. The police got on the news and said everyone is cooperating, which seemed nice, and like the right thing to do, but look at where we are today. Those same people, all who thought they were doing the right thing by talking, are under the guise of a criminal investigation; and might go to jail. I'm sure the cops in that case are not lying or doing anything unscrupulous, they're just using the law to their advantage, which is what people must also do. Alec Baldwin's words in all likelihood, are going to come back to haunt him and place him in a precarious position. And for what, to save face? To appear as if he was doing the right thing? Let me tell you something, friend... Alec Baldwin was going to get sued anyway, he was going to fall under a criminal investigation anyway, so why speak and arm the police with the ammunition they're going to use against you? It's funny, the ones who knew not to speak in taht case were the heads of the film studio! They gave condolences, but beyond that, said nothing! Shut up and lawyer up! It's why lawyers exist! This is what I have always told my children....Shut up and lawyer up!
eight DEA agents showed at my door at 11pm for a knock n talk but got so pissed off because I didn't open the door. next day I inquired at sheriff office, they arrested me threw me down hard inside sheriff's dept n broke one tooth n messed up my shoulder. DEA reported to them I resisted them when they didn't have a warrant for me after they left my door at 12 am. In jail for 24 hours and was let go with no paperwork giving what I was charged for. THERE'S YOUR american DUE PROCESS, ego and a badge
no need for one due I wasn't ever charged for a actual crime after jail released me 24 hours later without papers I called and called courts, sheriff's dept. courthouse clerks and no one new anything why i was arrested
@Guy Gardner And you're a dumbass parroting trumper.. you do not personally know this person to even question their story, much less outright call it a lie. Unless you were there and have personal proof to this being a made up story, then you're just an idiot parroting trumper troll. Secondly, do you know what "antifa" stands for? ANTI FASCIST, ANTI FASCISM.. and if you were ANY kind of good American and NOT a treasonous piece of shit... you'd be one, too. You ARE against fascism, right?
We once had a pesky neighbor who would call the cops, the city, etc., just to harass people. My turn was when "someone" called the city to report faeces in my alleyway between houses. True, I would let my dog out there to do his thing and come back, but it was always cleaned up the same day, usually within the hour. Two inspectors rang the bell and I answered from behind a locked screen-door. "Can we come in to talk?" "Ummmm, no." The look of surprise on their faces was priceless. They did ultimately ask me to pull in the catfood I left out front for the strays, but that was the extent of it. I was polite about it, said that as if asked if I wanted gravy on my mashies or something, but the answer was a clear no.
Install a “Ring” doorbell or a “Kuna” porch light (my preference). One way video and two way audio (recorded) via your phone wherever you are, at home or not. Stay away from the LOCKED door. 🤙
Better yet,......don't acknowledge the fact you are home, don't answer the door, don't speak to them through the door. Ignore their presence and go on about your business.
I get plenty of unexpected knocks on the door that are benign or even helpful, but maybe that's my neighborhood. We look out for each other so "Can you move your car so the delivery truck can get closer to my door?" or "The mailman brought your mail to my house again," or "Your daughter's chicken got out of the yard," or "You left your car window rolled down and it looks like rain." are welcome.
@Robert Beckom- Oh they know our rights. They know(or should) the limits of their authority. It is just that they have gotten away overstepping their boundaries for so long, that "We the people" now find ourselves in an adversarial relationship with the police.
This is a refreshing departure from the standard "Pretend you're not home." For all you know they're knocking to tell you that your next of kin is dead. Find out what they want and THEN decide what you're going to do about it.
Knock, Knock! Yes? Open the door we want to talk! Why? When I come to your shop I have to talk to you thru a window, so here you get to talk thru the door.
This just happened to me! They were looking fot my neighbor, i told them wrong house, they insisted that i open the door they even tried to open my door but it was locked. They didnt go away untill i said im recording them. Dbags
You missed the ten minutes of threats they start with. Denanding you open the door with threat threat threat all lies but theyll threaten you and insult you for ten minutes minimum.
Why would you want to have to repair your door after they serve the warrant? If they have a warrant let them in. Compliance with a warrant isn't consent.
@@mehardin Try and find situations where a valid warrant was present and a forcible entry occurred, where the cops PAID FOR THE REPAIRS TO THE DOOR. Post the link here. We'll wait, thank you.
These Lawyers are Excellent. Listen people. Mr. Bard goes to post secondary school for 4 years!! Cops go train for 3 MONTHS and are told to lie to you. Free advice $$$.
Thank you sir. The best thing to do is NOT answer your door. Be silent as if you are not home and they will go away. It is your RIGHT to remain silent - exercise it! If you say anything to the police, it can and will be used against you. The police are not your friends. They're not here to help you, but to ticket you, fine you, arrest you, or question you. Sorry, the police can knock all the want...they're not getting an answer.
A year or two ago we had a sheriff come to our door. We also have a security gate at the front porch which was locked. My other half has the same name as a man in Los Angeles we believe, and that sheriff wanted to see if my other half was THAT GUY. As the sheriff started asking question my other half start blabbing. I put my hand on his shoulder and basically told him to shut up. I looked at the sheriff and told him that my other half was not the man they were looking for and then he thanked us for our answering a few questions. I then ushered my other half into the house because we were standing on the porch but behind the security gate. When inside I told my other half that he does not have to answer their question on their fishing expedition. that is not the first time I have had to shut him down because he trust everyone. I DO NOT AND FOR GOOD REASON WHICH IS EXPLAINED IN THIS VIDEO !!!
I learned the hard way not to let them in. They wouldn’t leave. One fed asked if he could use restroom then began walking into bedrooms. The feds were asking then demanding I sign document. They made a quick exit after I brought in my Rottweiler from the backyard and gave him a “speak” command while restraining him by his collar. They returned about a week later trying to charm me with compliments and kindness. They never got past my security door.
Same thing happened to me. Our front porch light was out, it was nighttime, and a police officer wanted me to come out to talk to me, at midnight mid-week. I refused to open my door as I could not see who it was and didn't believe it was the police because, at that time, criminals had been posing as police then invaded homes, robbed, beat-up the occupants. This officer repeatedly told me to open up my door. Finally this officer said if I didn't open up my door, that I'd be arrested for "obstruction of justice".
Great informative video, Mr. Brian. It is so important for all citizens to know and exercise their American rights. Educate yourself, not just with national law, but the laws of your State. Never invite them inside. Any communication can be had through the door. If they have no warrant or reasonable suspicion, you don't have to talk to them, answer questions, or identify yourself. We have the right to be safe and secure within our own homes. Keep the barrier of the door between you at all times. Know your rights and exercise them.
The reason I watched this is because I just had a knock and talk with 2 cops at my house. I tried to be nice but the nicer I was the more aggressive they got with their treatment of me. Mind you I haven't done anything wrong. I finally told the to " fuck off and come back when you have a warrant ". I didn't give my name either. They haven't been back.
Rumor is no FBI agent will ever speak when a recording device is in use, they will insist you turn it off or leave; and apparently many of them insist on taking all their investigation notes in pencil. Wonder why that would be?
Clearly the counselor has never been thru the drill.. Where are you going? I'm not saying...rights you know. Why won't you say where you're going? Not saying...rights. Why won't you tell us why you won't say where you're going. Not saying...rights. They keep the circle argument going for 20 minutes and it's still "Why won't you answer our questions. Why are you hostile and uncooperative?". AND SO ON...
Next thing you know is you're going to be arrested because you're obstructing their "investigation." Which is finding out where you're going in the first place. It just doesn't make any logical sense.
@@blizzy78 yeah, that’s another lie to intimidate someone into talking. If they have information on you already, then they will likely arrest you. You can talk your way into an arrest, but not talk your way out of one.
A great reason to buy a doorbell cam. They'll first claim that they can't hear you and would you at least open the door. When you do that, the foot goes in the door so you can't close it without "assaulting an officer". And that foot won't move until they let you in. Doorbell cam removes all that drama. They talk to the video recorder.
I never talk to police at my door. Example. 5 years ago, I was sitting on my front porch, which is enclosed. There is a custom built, reinforced steel frame with steel mesh screen door, it deadbolts automatically when it closes and needs a key to open from the outside. There are 3, 6 inch steel slide bolts, top, middle and bottom of door, so in the event the lock is picked, and these are engaged it cannot be forced open. The neighborhood I was in was not the best, lot of break ins, and lot of rapes. As I sat there, three detectives rolled up, and walked right up to the screen door and attempted to open it. I walked over, engaged the 3 slide bolts and sat back down, when they started their little spiel of lies, I just put my headphones back on and went back to my book and ignored them. They stood there banging on the screen door, until I put the book down, took off my headphones and grabbed my beer and walked inside. The second screen door is built the same, The only thing I said to them before I closed the front door was when he said "They were just looking to talk." I told him since there are three of you, talk to each other. Shut the door, and secured it, went downstairs to rumpus room and started playing Warcraft. On the CCTV, they stood outside another 5 minutes, tried walking into the backyard, couldn't get in there, and finally left. What it was about was the neighbors dog, a Husky, had been getting out and terrorizing another persons cats, winding up killing one of them. The neighbor filed a police report, and these "intelligent detectives" came to the wrong address. The second time was easier, I just told them I do not allow solicitors on my property, and shut the door in their faces.
Make sure you keep your doors locked at all times. I've known people where the cops got a noise complaint and the cop just barged in and started questioning people.
That happened to me when I lived in TX. I had just gone to bed, my 2 friends stayed playing video games, cops just walked in. I heard everything from my bedroom. This was before lapel cams. Now, I always keep doors locked!
One time in college I passed out with a skipping cd in the player on blast. The cops came in and searched because the door was already broken from a prior incident and they saw weed when it came swinging open. They took all of my weed and paraphernalia but couldn’t charge me because of the door.
Best advice, record with phone, I always advise record everyone (Australia) on the phone, in the police station in the street and in the home, then break the recordings down into a word document, eg: @2.30 mins this happens @2.45mins this is said Makes it easier for your lawyer to understand and makes it so much easier to catch police lying or making false statements. I have a case and I have 11Gb of evidence against police and they are not happy, everytime they come up with a charge I hit back with my evidence and charges get dropped, also makes it so much easier to sue police
I think its likely that the cops wouldn't even tell you their purpose is to investigate you. They might say they're looking for a lost child, a part that fell off an airplane, or something where they need your help in the hopes you'll let them in.. and once they're in, its a different game.
It doesn't make sense that police are allowed to lie. I completely oppose this development. It totally undermines their authority. If they can tell me any lies then basically I can completely ignore them because I have no reason to ever believe a word that comes out of their mouth, or even the fact that they are in fact real police. This is a deplorable development and should be overturned.
@@lexpox329 It does make sense that cops are allowed to lie.. that is part of their investigation techniques.. And you are correct that you can never trust what a cop says.. there is ONLY one solution that works.. "Mr Police Officer, I'm going to exercise my right to remain silent and I want an attorney" You might think that saying such a thing would look bad in a court of law.. but they're not even allowed to bring it up.. Your silence CAN NOT BE USED AGAINST YOU... Any if you say that to a cop, he will realize he can't push you around.. COP: But you're not under arrest YOU: I want an attorney Once or twice with that answer and the cop will stop.. they're not allowed to pester you after you request an attorney.
@@rgbcolor6450 upon further investigation I have changed my mind. I think its probably necessary when dealing with certain situations, such as undercover work for police to be able to lie. And technically the current caselaw allows for them to lie only when they have an actual legitimate line of investigation they are following. I still think it massively empowers officers and that power can be abused by bad cops to the detriment of the public. I can't really think of a better way however given that criminals aren't going to cooperate with getting caught. If you are truly innocent of any crimes it seems like the best course of action is just to be silent and get a lawyer, so you can't misspeak and end up regretting it. Also if you are wrongfully arrested you really should just accept your going to jail for the night or whatever and fight the wrongful arrest in court. Resisting the police in the moment only gives them the right to use force.
Don't answer the door. Tell them to leave and don't come back without a warrant. Make sure you are recording before saying so. That way if they continue to knock you can then sue them for harassment and they can't get away with it since you recorded it. Make sure before going to court or reporting it you upload the video with the date and time to RUclips or some other website and make it a private video. That way they can't delete the video won't have access to it until they are in court.
I saw on another defence lawyer YT video that 1 of his law student's said the Police wanted a witness statement from the student. The student was confident & innocent of any crime... & was going to talk. The lawyer cautioned against it - & told the law student to tell the Police he would co-operate & talk - as long as the Police signed an agreement to FULL IMMUNITY for the student. When the student relayed this to the cops, they never spoke to that student again. Hmmm... so much for cops' 'innocent witness statements'.
Good to know. Hope I never need it, but good advice. Like I always said "every time I interact with the police it winds up costing me lots of money" And my favorite saying I always say "If I never see another cop as long as I live, that's OK with me".
If you are going to talk to them, even through a closed door and to say you don’t talk to police without your lawyer, make sure the TV or radio is off. If they hear something, anything other than your voice, they can claim they believed there were exigent circumstances and break down your door.
They might say they think you might be a witness to a car accident, but they might also just want to see if you were at a certain place at a certain time.
If you have a screen door, keep it locked at all times. When they open the screen door, knock and you swing open the door they’re halfway in your house. Tell em to keep their hands where I can see em and don’t make any sudden movements.
Math: in any large group of people, the people range from heroes to villians. Police is a large group of people. Ergo, some police are going to be villians. Sometimes protecting yourself is going to include protecting yourself from the police. Just ask my dad who was hospitalized by police because a) he answered his door and let them in, b) he refused to go with them for the simple reason that the name they gave for who they were looking for was not my dad, it was my neighbor. They didn't care, assumed he was lying, argument ensued, they took my elderly dad down to the floor, injuring him. Meanwhile their target was a guy nextdoor. Qualified immunity resulted in my dad paying his medical bills, fun fun. *Note: yes, my dad probably could have solved it by showing his ID, but he was pissed off at how rude they were when they pushed inside his home, and refused to cooperate with them other than to say "I'm not that person" to them over and over.
I have had them say" We need you to come outside so we can talk." It seems your hearing me just fine. I will not go outside and I have absolutely nothing to say to you. Call my lawyer.
Look up Mitchell v. City of Henderson. Henderson, Nevada police on 2011, forced their way into the home of Micheal and Linda Mitchell, to use the home as an "observation post" to watch a neighbor during an investigation of domestic violence. The police and city of Henderson are seeking for dismissal of the lawsuit.
I know the case and Mitchell was totally in the wrong. He had a responsibility to help the police settle the case next door. You also neglected to mention the sniper blind in his house. The police won that, as they should. The Mitchell case has no bearing on what this guy is saying.
Two ATF guys showed up at my door as I gun I sold was found at a crime scene. This being IL I had proof of a legitimate sale and I scrambled to find the receipt so I could give them what they wanted. I had zero problem doing this (even though if the ATF wanted to screw you over, they could). But, these guys were grateful for my cooperation and help. They said they usually get turned away in situations like this (which I understand). Did I make a “mistake?” I am sure many would say yes.
Many would but I'm with you in that if there is a way to quickly defuse their suspension and send them on their way, that is best. I've done similar with the local PD (not gun related).
This tutorial works only in the land of leave it to beaver and you know it !! . The whole reason you tell people to grab their phone is to record what happens because you know cops lie and hurt people with impunity . I really hate this game lawyers , judges , cops and any member of the legal system plays where they pretend that they all follow the law at all times leading to this false air of non existent impropriety. You know very well the cops will pretend they can't hear you , pretend they hear something going on in the house , or my favorite claim they smell weed to make entry into your house . The best you can do is totally ignore the cock smugglers and wait for them to leave .
Not always true. Had a cop come to my house on 4 separate occasions to "talk" to me. I refused to talk without my attorney present, even gave him my attorney's number. The last time he came to my house he got angry and said I acted guilty. I told him to leave. He wasn't happy but he left. Never came back. Your advice is sound though. No warrant? Let them knock until they bruise their knuckles. lol
@Joseph Desmond Oh, bullshit. Most cops are just fine. You've got some Storm Troopers, sure. Some bullies hide behind the gun and badge. Most are trying to make the neighborhood a little safer.
@@baruchben-david4196 Does a "fine" police officer sit back and allow illegal activity from his friends to happen, or speak up? Trying to establish your definition of "fine" and if the law even comes into play. Is a neighborhood considered safe, in your opinion, if the police officer is the one breaking the law?
This is all good for dealing with on the level reasonable officers. A good video would be what to do with the majority of the ones who beat the door, demand entry, lie to gain entry. The ones that say they have arrest warrant for someone who doesn't live there and assert that they have a right to search the property for the person on the warrant. This sounds like great advice for departments that follow the rules, what are we supposed to do ( in the momment) when we know they are crooked and corrupt?
1) Don't open the door. 2) You don't have to respond to the knock. 3) If you do talk to them, talk _through_ the door. - A) Record your conversation. - B) They demand entry: Ask to see the warrant. - C) No warrant, no entry. - D) If they have a warrant, verify the address. If it's your address, let them in. Keep recording. (If they have a warrant for your arrest, you can't really keep recording because you'll be handcuffed. Fight it in court if you're innocent.)
Here's a good example. My ex and I were having a fight. She swatted me, I swatted her back. It was an ugly emotional fight, barely a spitwad fight physically, but I knew that's enough for a domestic violence charge. She had no idea of the seriousness of the situation, but I did. She called the cops, being the complete idiot that she is. Cops show up, and my ex greets them in the driveway getting the first shot at telling her shitty story. Notably, she admits to hitting me first, confessing to her own crime. They didn't arrest her, handcuff her, and drag her off to jail. Then they come to the door. Knock, Knock, Knock, and that's all they got. They knocked over and over, beating and damaging my expensive mahogany door. I never answered. Later my ex admitted to me that the cops told her that had I answered the door, they would have likely arrested me, handcuffed me, and dragged me off to jail. Not her. Just me. I didn't have to lie to the cops about hitting her. I didn't have to admit we had had a fight. I didn't have to admit I'd hit her. They got nothing, zippo. That wasn't the end, of course. They mailed both of us a domestic violence complaint. My ex and I reconciled, and I had to hire a lawyer to represent both of us, and ultimately the case was dismissed against both of us. Who knows if that would have happened depending on what I said to them if I answered the door. Even if I'd answered the door, handled myself in an ideal way, I would have been arrested no matter what. Likely I'd spent the night in jail. So not answering the door, not answering a single question, that for sure saved me that. My lawyer validated I would have likely been arrested and also validated that his job would have been much worse if I had answered any questions. So, don't answer the door. Don't answer any questions.
The cops should be our friends and protectors, some of them are. The problem is that some of them are actively trying to get dirt on you, others try to push you into making a mistake. These "problem causers" are the ones that American citizens need to protect themselves from. Treat EVERY cop (unless you know them) as an armed, dangerous person. DON'T let them into your home!!!
When my oldest son was in high school, I was home sick with the flu, knock on door, officer said they had 911 call there was someone here going to hurt themself. Suddenly, I felt guilty told officer come on lets go find out. Went to son room, he was just watching tv and puzzled why I was in his room with a cop, then emts arrived and more cops, finally one said obviously there is nothing wrong here, but no one made any move to leave. I told them, they were welcome to stay but I have the flu and stepped closer to one of the cops. That's when they remembered they had other calls to attend to.
I had two officers come right in after me clearly denying them entry. Then one made a move to grab my hand so I pulled away and was arrested for resisting arrest. I did open the door when they came. It was dropped in court but jeez nothing like going to county jail and showing your butthole and doing a squat and cough... Lovely experience.
If I get a knock at the door I go out on the deck right above the front door, it makes people uncomfortable when you have the high ground. never had any cops show up but a few solicitors and they scoot real quick.
Knock Knock. "Hello. I'm from the police. I'm here to sell you a consensual investigation, trumped up charges, an arrest, trial, conviction, fines, and jail time." (Monty Python sotto voce) "I told him we already got one."
Here's my not a lawyer advice. If they knock, and you don't hear "police, search warrant!!!" and the door doesn't explode inward from a battering ram. Don't answer the door, it could be something worse like Jehovah Witness.
An interesting twist in Massachusetts. The state appellate court (Godfrey v. Wellesley) has held that exercising your 5th amendment right is just cause for revoking your right to own or possess any form of firearm or ammunition. Yes, really - the MA courts allow them to punish you if you choose to exercise your right remain silent. Until a very recent federal court order, the police were getting felony convictions against persons who surreptitiously made audio recordings of encounters with policy. Add this to the "yes, really" file. See Commonwealth v. Hyde
Never assume that a police officer is your "friend" or is trying to help you. They are taught conversational techniques to get people to reveal information. Never volunteer information, or allow yourself to become "chatty".
True. Use the good cop bad cop against them, separate them if you need to, and only deal with the bad pig . Best bet is to never allow them onto property without a warrent and never allow them alone in a room with a child regardless of what you may think you may be guilty of as getting your kid spiked by the pig as that is the insult most likely to offend
Always remember: Cops are *legally allowed to lie* to ANY member of the public. I would be willing to bet money that *most or all* of the officers who said they wouldn't allow another officer to violate someone's rights either have done so themselves or *witnessed* another officer do so AND DID NOTHING. The police use a "one bad apple" defense to say that the bad cops are few and far between... and yet *every* medium-sized or large department has them and *every* officer in those departments (or most of them) know about those officers' activities. Because the actual aphorism is "one bad apple *spoils the barrel*". As soon as you know there is ONE bad apple (a bad cop) in the barrel, ALL of the apples with it (the entire department) are suspect. Rot spreads.
"any police officer who gets upset in this situation is not a good police officer" cracks me up cause I actually had to deal with a rookie that was looking for a fight. NEVER open the door because they will put their hands on you. If they wanna talk they can talk through a window. Best thing to do is not even answer the door, act like no one is home.
Good advice, thanks for posting the video. Make a video explaining what the real job of the police is. Many people think they are here to protect and serve which is copaganda.
Good information - Cheers, from Australia. Also, its good to have permanent, continuous recording at your front door with the use of an installed CCTV camera. If the Cops see the camera they are more likely to be polite. And Cops are less likely to ask you to " rip the camera off the wall" than to ask you to " put the phone away ".
Learned this years ago from good old Barry Cooper ex Interdiction officer! He always taught to tell the police that you’re not going to open the door and that if they need to come in here are my hands just go ahead and kick the door in. Ahhh the good ole days of the marijuana industry!
Had one of those knocks on my door a few days ago. It was the police. I refused to open the door and speak with the officer. He claimed that he was there conducting a welfare check requested by a relative. That was a lie. It was chilling experience.
What's funny is if all criminals follow the one rule which is never talked to anyone but a lawyer police would not be able to use their own words against them and they would have to let most people out of jail. Not to mention the fact that if at least a third or half of people plead not guilty everyday to every single ticket that was written out and wanted their day in court the system would be backed up so far that they would have to let all misdemeanors go
I have watched several of these type of presentations: "Don't talk to the police. Don't open the door. Don't say anything to the police because it can be distorted, twisted, taken out of context, etc." By the behavior and actions described, the police have themselves created an atmosphere of distrust against law enforcement, even among honest, law-abiding people, and this has now created an escalating cycle of cynicism. Many people assume law enforcement always has ulterior motives and can not be trusted in any way. All I can say is I will never talk to a cop again without representation. I am sure many others feel the same way. Sad that it has come to the point where the cops can't be trusted.
great comments cal
they are swindlers of rights, monies, and trust. Treat them like a highly dangerous and contagious killer disease.
@@nwofoe2866 Omicop
Can you tell us your story Cal?
I'm just curious.......and yeah, unfortunately, I share your same sympathies.....you know that ol' county saying....one bad apple!
Unfortunately, the police are legally allowed to lie to you about evidence they have, the law, and what your rights are. Plus they train in deception and manipulation.
You can't trust a liar, and if that liar can put you in jail, best not to interact with them at all.
Here's my non-lawyer advice. If I get a knock at the door and I'm not expecting anyone, I don't answer.
Bravo Sir!!!! i can't tell you how many times i am in my basement and i get knock on my door and i simply do not answer it. If I am expecting someone i will answer it. My friends all know to call before they come over. Just dont answer the door. this policy has never hurt me or caused my any issues. People need to stop answering the door.
Ditto....people need to exercise this right now.
I understand the thinking behind that strategy. And if I could see (without answering the door) that it's the police, I would be inclined to agree. HOWEVER, if you believe it's NOT the police, then here's some unsolicited advice that I urge you/everyone to consider: The first thing a burglar or home intruder does before forcefully breaking into your home is knock on your front door-usually more than once. If there's no answer, they will look around, maybe even try to casually take a peek inside, etc.; they may even go around back to scope things out before their next move. And failing to get an answer, that next move will be to kick in the back door, the front door, or possibly break a window to gain entrance. This is the moment that you dreaded-especially if it's your child who is home all alone. Answering a "knock at the door" doesn't necessarily mean *opening* the door; it simply means *answering* the knock with something like, "Who is it? What do you want? Sorry, I can't help you." If they persist, that's the time to start dialing 9-1-1 as you, or your loved one, prepare to defend yourself/themselves. Think this through *before* the time comes. _Discuss possible scenarios with your family._ Yes, maybe even go outside and 'play the bad guy' as you role play with your children. _It could mean the difference between life and death._
Then they do the "wellness check". Fortunately the Supreme Court has limited that to some degree. Also you have to verbally assert your 5th amendment rights - silence is not sufficient and can be used to infer guilt. Also don't answer any questions because once you start, your later silence can be used to infer guilt.
@@jackburton37211 I get plenty of unexpected knocks on the door that are either benign or beneficial. One neighbor knocked to tell me that my daughter's chicken had escaped the yard so that I could capture the offending fowl and return her to the coop. Another knock was to warn me that the neighbor's house was on fire -- for some reason the FD had come without sirens and thus hadn't woken me up. A knock to let me know that the insurance inspectors had finished with the property next door and I was free to go take the fence panels I'd wanted. My neighbor telling me that my mail had been mis-delivered to his house. Another neighbor asking if his mail had been delivered by accident to my house. (Yes, it had.) A neighbor asking if I could move my car so a delivery truck would have room to back in. Twice the knock was the cops: once to ask about a murder in the neighborhood and if I had seen anything at the time the gunshots had rung out, and once to tell me that somebody was about to have my car towed if I didn't move it from in front of her vacant lot. (This actually led to me negotiating renting a parking spot on the vacant lot, six feet in front of my door. VERY convenient and if I hadn't gone to the door I'd have had to deal find out that my car had been towed off when I went to leave for work the next morning.) And that's not counting all the times that it's my daughter, son-in-law, or one of my grandchildren.
I work for an attorney now. I can't tell you how many, so many of our clients who spoke to the police. The main evidence was what our client said. Do not talk to the police
I can confirm from first-hand experience I was cooperative and answered all his questions and he screwed me every way he possibly could
@@darcboy1398 Same happened to me. I was a whistle blower. When I quit my job and wrote a letter to the FBI about my suspicions they did nothing. Then just as statutes of limitations were almost runned out they charged everyone including me. Never never talk to law enforcement.
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Yes In MY COUSIN VINNY, when arrested Billy when questioned says "I shot the clerk?" ???? Says it twice as a question, but was mistaken as a confession. So you never know how your answers are perceived, thus, SHUT UP AND DONT TALK without a lawyer.
@@darcboy1398
That is exactly how they work.. All Psychological Manipulation..
Best NOT to tell them anything!.
I have heard advice such as: Don't even answer the door. All good wishes. Thank you for this.
officer:" We just want to talk .
me: "How many of you are there?"
officer: " Three."
me: " you can talk among yourselves"
@W B yes? but which one?
Do not joke around with law-enforcement. A friend of mine is a defense lawyer, and he says that is the one message he would like to send to everyone. His example is: a highway or traffic cop pulls Mr. Future-Client over, and tests him for DWI. The cop administers "test-A". Mr. Future-Client passes, but, he's been cracking jokes, in an effort to make the cop feel comfortable and friendly. After he passes, he says, without thinking: "Well, I'm glad you didn't make me go through [test-B]; I can't do that one even when I'm sober!" DING DING DING DING DING!!! Mr. Future-Client has just ADMITTED that he is NOT sober NOW. He's arrested and doesn't have a prayer of beating the rap. The prosecutor doesn't have to do a damm thing in order to convict, so, the defense lawyer's only bargaining chip for getting an easier plea-deal (give my client probation with no prison time and I'll have him plead guilty and save you the trouble of having to build a case for trail) is GONE.
@@colonelfredpuntridge8799 First of all Field Sobriety Tests are VOLUNTARY, if "Mr. Future-Client" is stupid enough to take the tests, we can dispense with any self incriminatory statements he makes later.
THIEF!!!
You stole this one from another video......C'mon man....
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One more reason to love your Ring Doorbell. I dont even come to the door.
Thank you sir. Some of us aren't as sophisticated as we think we are. This is a situation I would not have been prepared for. Now I am. Thank you.
I appreciate you saying, “Any police officer that gets upset in this situation…Not a good police officer.” There are many officers that get upset with citizens for exercising their rights. Not only that but they say that a citizen is being disorderly.
Thugs,all of them.
Yeah they have a bunch of phrases to make you feel like you're wrong for not talking to them. I've seen a video posted recently where the cops said to "come out to prove their innocence!" Didn't know we're guilty until proven innocent.
That "disorderly'` is a sweet term.
I tend to call a pig a pig.
Cannot make it smell better other than put it in a fire pit and then some
Rule #1 never open your door for anyone.
That's my policy. If you're not expected, you're not welcome.
Rule #1 Never open your door for anyone you are not expecting
Rule # 2 Always follow Rule #1
From Karate Kid II The rules of Karate in the Myagi Dojo, slightly modified.
unless it is your pizza delivery, otherwise, you are a stupid hungry person.
Yeah, great way to a quick and nasty divorce...
"But honey, it's me! I forgot my keys!"
- NUTS! I ain't openin' that door!"
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance - even against the police. Perhaps, especially.
Especially
Your lawyer is the one to stab you in the back while standing by your side. Do not trust "your"lawyer."But he's my Siamese twin!" Do... not... trust ... him( or her)
True, government agents.
@@ladybug947 I'd trust a cop before s lawyer or judge. Some police can be human beings.
@@dennishickey7194 Agreed!
Always record police, and NEVER answer questions without an attorney present.
Don't even talk to them in knock and talk instances.
Never talk to the police, even with your attorney present.
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"But first, officers, let's talk about Jesus!"
Bravo !!!
Hell yeah, that's the best one....... throw a Jesus spin on it, and lay it on THICK.
Ha ha ha ha i like this. :)
@Boz Scaggs Higher probability? Ha, do you know anything about science and probability? According to scientific probabilities God MUST exist. Do you want proof? I can provide it. Or do you want to remain blind and dumb? God gives you a choice, choose wisely. Eternity is too long to be wrong!
@Boz Scaggs I am a retired Engineer / Scientist. I have been in this field over 32 years. I follow scientific evidence and discovery. So here is what we know:
Scientists say that any probability less than 1 in 10^150th is an impossibility. That is one chance in 10 with 150 zeros after it. That is a HUGE number. We don't even have a name for it. We call that a googleplex. Thus Google.
After taking into account the intricate balance of all the constants and variables, all the things that must have been and are required for us to exist in this VAST universe, we (scientists) find that for all of this to just happen randomly is 1 chance in 10^450th. That is 10^300th smaller likelihood then the limit of possibility. It is so vanishing small a probability that it is impossible. A higher being, vastly more intelligent than us, outside of the universe, created ALL of this "stuff".
I can get into more detail if you want. Most people don’t understand probability that well. Most people don’t grasp how large these numbers are (10^150th is a number larger than the number of atoms in the universe). But I thought I would keep it simple for now.
Do you understand now why there MUST be God? A creator who exists outside of this universe? And why it’s impossible that we should be here let alone space aliens?
KNOCK KNOCK
WHO'S THERE
POLICE
WHAT DO YOU WANT
WE JUST WANT TO TALK
DO YOU HAVE A WARRANT
NO
HOW MANY POLICE ARE THERE
2
COOL - GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND TALK TO EACH OTHER.
Exactly what I say
I needed a laugh. Thank you!
😂lol
LOL...good job
You'll have to come back later we're doin the dishes...
No cop has ever knocked on anything that softly ever.
And they certainly don’t go away after one knock. I had one pound on my door for nearly 10 minutes straight. When he finally left, I had to tighten the hinges back up.
@@bubbasouth69 YES!! POUND AND IF YOU DO NOT ANSWER.. COME RIGHT BACK THE NEXT AM (IN FRONT OF ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS TO EMBARRASS AND TERRORIZE YOU ) WITH 8 COP CARS.. THIS HAPPENS IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS..EXSEPT THE BIG CITIES..THEN THEY COME IN 1 CAR.. AND IF YOU KNWO PEOPLE... MAKE A CALL. BUT, IF YOU ARE "OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT" THIS "SO-CALLED" COPS WILL STICK SO FAR UP YOUR ASS! THEY ALL SUCK, THEY ALL LIE FOR ONE ANOTHER, FACT!
He left out the most important thing? When they knock on your door. You say how can I help you, or who is it? Next they will ask you to open the door. But you tell them I can hear you fine, how can I help you, what do you want? No matter what they tell you. You do not open the door, you do not allow them to enter your home.
Wrong. You ignore them. And keep ignoring them. They’ll eventually go away. When they come back, rinse and repeat.
@@javoss123 you have no clue to how they can use forced entry, if you fail to respond in a timely manner, they can say they felt your life was in danger, or unconscious. And they needed to use forced entry to ensure your well-being. This is how they get away with breaking out a window or door! I actually spoke to a law enforcement officer about this subject matter.
@@MissionaryForMexico unless it was a call for a domestic or a wellness call, I'm pretty sure I could break their qualified immunity on that, and I would have them charged for breaking and entering. It would be interesting to try. 😁
Heres how to handle no warrant police encounters: "please leave my property. I do not answer questions without an attorney present. If you have cause to detain me please say so otherwise get off my property." Like he said DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR! Police will find a reason to arrest you if you do. Police do NOT know your rights or care. Thats not their job. Their job is to arrest you. Do not treat this as a "sales" call. You will lose in the end and it will cost you your life. Treat it as what it is. An intrusion by a dangerous and criminal gang.
"You're under arrest for obstruction" that's what happened to me when I handled it this way.
@@JeffDeanTheDeanZone I think your first mistake in that regard was to say anything to the police.
Their job is to use anything you say against you.
Don't sugarcoat it like that. Tell it straight!
@Brett Madison “So and all was attached on a misdemeanor charge of obstructing the police and booked in jail.” His job was notified of his arrest and he was fired immediately.
Or as "Mr Nobody" says: "I don't talk to police"
I like what you said: that the police officers themselves would never allow another police officer to come in and walk through their home. If you ever have an issue with them trying to "sell" themselves into your home, use that line! They'll probably lie to your face about how they WOULD allow them in, but you know that that is not true. Remember also, police officers are allowed to lie to to you, Supreme Court has ruled that to be allowed.
Which is why I will never trust any of them. Well,that's one reason anyway.
they also ruled they have NO OBLIGATION to protect you, and by extension, presumably, your rights...
So why is it ok for them to loe to us, but usually a felony to lie to them????
@@davidjones8942 Because that is how twisted our justice system is. Those that have the best lawyers can usually win in court. Look at Mr. Trump and how he drug out paying contractors for work in Atlantic city to the point some of them got nothing.
My scenario....
1. KNOCK KNOCK
(I get up from my sofa and go to the door, look out my blind or keyhole and see two police officers knowing that if they had a warrant they would not have politely knocked)
2. I ignore the knocking and go back to my sofa and resume my TV program
#ThatWasEasy
And if the two cops were there to tell you your father had just been killed in a car crash?
@@thesisypheanjournal1271 What, you don't have a telephone? And you're welcome to show us documented examples of the POLICE doing that at all.
@@thesisypheanjournal1271 go away!
@@thesisypheanjournal1271 If my father is dead today, he'll probably be dead tomorrow too. There's no hurry.
You just glossed over a very important aspect of this by just throwing it in at the last second when you said "and go about your business". A major mistake most people attempting to assert their rights in these situations make is that they don't just walk away and go about their business after they do it. They stay at the door and continue to engage with the police, screaming and arguing with them, and quite often answering all sorts of questions after getting frustrated. Part of the fishing expedition of a knock and talk is to do precisely that. Get the person frustrated and agitated so that they'll either eventually concede and allow questioning/entry, or they'll do or say something the police think they can plausibly claim established probable cause negating the need for a warrant.
Good points! Every word you say is being used against you before you even get to court - the less said the better. I would add to smile as you turn away, let them know in no uncertain terms you know the game they are playing.
Precisely!
One of the most frightening things I’ve ever seen was during the search for the Boston Marathon Bombers. Police officers from all over the Commonwealth and surrounding states were bussed in, and went door to door through neighborhoods in Cambridge, Somerville and Belmont knocking on doors and searching houses. There was no warrant. Just a lot of frightened residents who were told by the Governor to shelter in place. This was something reminiscent of Nazi Germany. I never thought something like this could have ever happened in the United states. Literally thousands of armed police rifling through peoples homes with no authorization whatsoever. And to this day, it hasn’t been challenged in court. Unbelievable! The irony was with all of that, they failed to catch the person they were looking for.
It was only after the search had been called off that a local resident went in his back yard and noticed the cover on his boat had been disturbed. He notified police. They came en mass and instead of searching the boat, opened fire and shot hundreds of rounds into the boat, not knowing who or what might be in it.
After the fact the man whose boat was destroyed by gunfire got a new boat. Not from the government. From the a boat manufacturer!
I was just talking about that 10 minutes ago. Plus the bullshit in New Orleans
Germany never engaged in such behavior except in a war zone.
@Dr. J how's that for irony? We are more of a police state than Nazi Germany was....
I have long said, "what is the universal classic sound of government opression? ''Papiere, Bitte', in English: 'Papers Please' and what do American police say when they walk up to your car? 'License, registration, and proof of insurance' ...... at least the Nazi's said plesse!!!
@@DrJ-hx7wv you have never made a more incorrect statement in your entire life. A simple Google search would have showed you that there are hundreds if not thousands of examples where ze Nazis went through people's homes, business and effects. But beware there is much violence described and may make you think they were much worse...much much worse.
I’m from around Boston and was near the bombing. Not a good example of nazi’s . I went into work in Boston the lock down day. I wasn’t stopped , only in Watertown was a area closed off. Most people stayed off the streets because we were asked to… there was no enforcement.
I know a lot of cops...I come from a long line of cops... That being said, NEVER let a cop into your home! This attorney is giving great advice here, but as a former security specialist, I recommend adding a home security system that includes overt cameras. Overt cameras will help ease police officers in the right direction when they can see that they are being monitored. Video surveillance is super affordable these days and based on many police home invasion incidents that have occurred over the last couple of years, it's a smart choice. Many police officers have lied about incidents only to find out that video surveillance contradicts their version. These particular police officers only lied because they didn't know they were being monitored. However, if a cop knows that they're being watched right from the start, believe me, they're on their best behavior. It is better that police walk away in fear of surveillance than have them get caught in a lie after they already have done something to you or your family!
Lying police seems to be the problem then. If law enforcement actually enforced laws and were honest people then we wouldn't be having this problem. If an officer is caught lying they should lose their job. The kind of person who is to enforce laws or preside as over other passing judgement needs be practically superhuman when it comes to character and integrity or they are unfit for the job.
@@lexpox329 No, lying police is not the problem, sir. The problem is that people don't exercise their rights, and cops use everything they get, LEGALLY, against them. Case in point, several weeks ago when Alec Baldwin shot that woman on the Rust film set, he should have shut up immediately! He had zero obligation to speak with police, so he shouldn't have. The police got on the news and said everyone is cooperating, which seemed nice, and like the right thing to do, but look at where we are today. Those same people, all who thought they were doing the right thing by talking, are under the guise of a criminal investigation; and might go to jail. I'm sure the cops in that case are not lying or doing anything unscrupulous, they're just using the law to their advantage, which is what people must also do. Alec Baldwin's words in all likelihood, are going to come back to haunt him and place him in a precarious position. And for what, to save face? To appear as if he was doing the right thing? Let me tell you something, friend... Alec Baldwin was going to get sued anyway, he was going to fall under a criminal investigation anyway, so why speak and arm the police with the ammunition they're going to use against you? It's funny, the ones who knew not to speak in taht case were the heads of the film studio! They gave condolences, but beyond that, said nothing! Shut up and lawyer up! It's why lawyers exist! This is what I have always told my children....Shut up and lawyer up!
@@lexpox329 Police are allowed to lie to obtain co-operation.
eight DEA agents showed at my door at 11pm for a knock n talk but got so pissed off because I didn't open the door. next day I inquired at sheriff office, they arrested me threw me down hard inside sheriff's dept n broke one tooth n messed up my shoulder. DEA reported to them I resisted them when they didn't have a warrant for me after they left my door at 12 am. In jail for 24 hours and was let go with no paperwork giving what I was charged for. THERE'S YOUR american DUE PROCESS, ego and a badge
Geez, you should have had your LAWYER contact the sheriff's office.
no need for one due I wasn't ever charged for a actual crime after jail released me 24 hours later without papers I called and called courts, sheriff's dept. courthouse clerks and no one new anything why i was arrested
@Guy Gardner And you're a dumbass parroting trumper.. you do not personally know this person to even question their story, much less outright call it a lie. Unless you were there and have personal proof to this being a made up story, then you're just an idiot parroting trumper troll. Secondly, do you know what "antifa" stands for? ANTI FASCIST, ANTI FASCISM.. and if you were ANY kind of good American and NOT a treasonous piece of shit... you'd be one, too. You ARE against fascism, right?
@@jeneenbeard8104 you should have never visited to find out anything. You ignore them they go away and that's that. Sorry that happened to you.
We once had a pesky neighbor who would call the cops, the city, etc., just to harass people. My turn was when "someone" called the city to report faeces in my alleyway between houses. True, I would let my dog out there to do his thing and come back, but it was always cleaned up the same day, usually within the hour.
Two inspectors rang the bell and I answered from behind a locked screen-door. "Can we come in to talk?" "Ummmm, no." The look of surprise on their faces was priceless. They did ultimately ask me to pull in the catfood I left out front for the strays, but that was the extent of it.
I was polite about it, said that as if asked if I wanted gravy on my mashies or something, but the answer was a clear no.
Install a “Ring” doorbell or a “Kuna” porch light (my preference). One way video and two way audio (recorded) via your phone wherever you are, at home or not. Stay away from the LOCKED door. 🤙
Yeah, they have been known to shoot innocent people through the door...
Check the t&c
They will ship footage to police without your consent
Treat the situation like a pesky door to door salesman. Perfect way to put it in perspective.
That’s why I don’t answer the door, ever. I pay attention and can see though the corner of blinds to sho it is, though they can’t see me.
Better yet,......don't acknowledge the fact you are home, don't answer the door, don't speak to them through the door. Ignore their presence and go on about your business.
There's no law that says you have to answer your door. I never answer my door unless I'm expecting someone. I demand a courtesy call first. Always.
Yes, most people do it nowadays. I always announce my presents via phone first to any of my friends.
@@FireguyNtx How nice of you to announce presents :)
A good friend of mine likes to drop in unnanounced. I stopped answering the door on his surprise visits, be polite and telephone first.
I get plenty of unexpected knocks on the door that are benign or even helpful, but maybe that's my neighborhood. We look out for each other so "Can you move your car so the delivery truck can get closer to my door?" or "The mailman brought your mail to my house again," or "Your daughter's chicken got out of the yard," or "You left your car window rolled down and it looks like rain." are welcome.
@@blizzy78 It spoils the surprise though!
Very presumptive of you to say that police know your rights. I very often find that to NOT be the case. Lots of them just make it up as they go along.
Fucking aye man, fucking aye....
@Chris Landry No kidding. Seeing those "First amendment audits" sure shows the cops disinterest in the rights of citizens.
@Robert Beckom- Oh they know our rights. They know(or should) the limits of their authority. It is just that they have gotten away overstepping their boundaries for so long, that "We the people" now find ourselves in an adversarial relationship with the police.
They may not know your rights but they do know their limitations.
Not only do they know your rights but they also don't care about them.
The cop will shoot your because the phone was mistaken for a gun. They will then investigate themselves and find that they did nothing wrong.
kevin cvalciuc Ain't that a shame and a fucking joke.............yeah, pigs investigating themselves, LMFAO!!!!!!!!!
Stop speaking facts!!!! Or better yet - you move to fast to the door - so they had to shoot for safety reasons........Its getting out of hand......
I hate cops but that shit is a complete load of bullshit you fucking idiot.
No, that's only if you're black.
@@chaseviking5096 no its not.
This is a refreshing departure from the standard "Pretend you're not home." For all you know they're knocking to tell you that your next of kin is dead. Find out what they want and THEN decide what you're going to do about it.
Knock, Knock! Yes?
Open the door we want to talk!
Why? When I come to your shop I have to talk to you thru a window, so here you get to talk thru the door.
Oh man, that was good!
This just happened to me! They were looking fot my neighbor, i told them wrong house, they insisted that i open the door they even tried to open my door but it was locked. They didnt go away untill i said im recording them. Dbags
You missed the ten minutes of threats they start with. Denanding you open the door with threat threat threat all lies but theyll threaten you and insult you for ten minutes minimum.
They should be barking threats to an empty door. You shouldn't be there. Tell them no thank you, then return to the ball game.
and dont forget when they tell you to step outside for their safety
I follow this advice for everybody who knocks on my door, police officer or not. You can never be too safe.
NEVER ANSWER THE DOOR FOR THE POLICE. IF THEY HAVE A WARRANT, LET THEM KICK THE DOOR IN.
If it is a valid warrant, then you have to pay for the kicked in door as well. Why wouldn't you open the door when a warrant is presented?
Why would you want to have to repair your door after they serve the warrant? If they have a warrant let them in. Compliance with a warrant isn't consent.
@@mehardin Try and find situations where a valid warrant was present and a forcible entry occurred, where the cops PAID FOR THE REPAIRS TO THE DOOR. Post the link here.
We'll wait, thank you.
@@simplywonderful449 You are making my point. If they have a warrant you should open the door, not make them kick it in.
These Lawyers are Excellent. Listen people. Mr. Bard goes to post secondary school for 4 years!! Cops go train for 3 MONTHS and are told to lie to you. Free advice $$$.
If I ain’t expecting you I don’t answer the door.Nobody here but us chickens LOL
Thank you sir. The best thing to do is NOT answer your door. Be silent as if you are not home and they will go away. It is your RIGHT to remain silent - exercise it! If you say anything to the police, it can and will be used against you. The police are not your friends. They're not here to help you, but to ticket you, fine you, arrest you, or question you. Sorry, the police can knock all the want...they're not getting an answer.
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GREAT REPLY~!!!👍🏼
Thank you for your sage counsel. May God bless and protect you. Continue to defend the Constitution.
A year or two ago we had a sheriff come to our door. We also have a security gate at the front porch which was locked. My other half has the same name as a man in Los Angeles we believe, and that sheriff wanted to see if my other half was THAT GUY. As the sheriff started asking question my other half start blabbing. I put my hand on his shoulder and basically told him to shut up. I looked at the sheriff and told him that my other half was not the man they were looking for and then he thanked us for our answering a few questions. I then ushered my other half into the house because we were standing on the porch but behind the security gate. When inside I told my other half that he does not have to answer their question on their fishing expedition. that is not the first time I have had to shut him down because he trust everyone. I DO NOT AND FOR GOOD REASON WHICH IS EXPLAINED IN THIS VIDEO !!!
Once you open the door they will claim: “he invited us in.”
I learned the hard way not to let them in. They wouldn’t leave. One fed asked if he could use restroom then began walking into bedrooms. The feds were asking then demanding I sign document. They made a quick exit after I brought in my Rottweiler from the backyard and gave him a “speak” command while restraining him by his collar. They returned about a week later trying to charm me with compliments and kindness. They never got past my security door.
What you say will always be used against you, anything exculpatory that you tell them can not be used in your defense.
"We only want to talk." How many of you are out there? "Two of us." Well, talk to each other.
great info, and totally shareable to children. Thank you.
Same thing happened to me. Our front porch light was out, it was nighttime, and a police officer wanted me to come out to talk to me, at midnight mid-week. I refused to open my door as I could not see who it was and didn't believe it was the police because, at that time, criminals had been posing as police then invaded homes, robbed, beat-up the occupants. This officer repeatedly told me to open up my door. Finally this officer said if I didn't open up my door, that I'd be arrested for "obstruction of justice".
Great informative video, Mr. Brian. It is so important for all citizens to know and exercise their American rights. Educate yourself, not just with national law, but the laws of your State. Never invite them inside. Any communication can be had through the door. If they have no warrant or reasonable suspicion, you don't have to talk to them, answer questions, or identify yourself. We have the right to be safe and secure within our own homes. Keep the barrier of the door between you at all times. Know your rights and exercise them.
The reason I watched this is because I just had a knock and talk with 2 cops at my house. I tried to be nice but the nicer I was the more aggressive they got with their treatment of me. Mind you I haven't done anything wrong. I finally told the to " fuck off and come back when you have a warrant ". I didn't give my name either. They haven't been back.
feel free to call a pig a pig
Never talk to the police, especially the FBI.
Rumor is no FBI agent will ever speak when a recording device is in use, they will insist you turn it off or leave; and apparently many of them insist on taking all their investigation notes in pencil. Wonder why that would be?
@@briantucker7133 The documentary that is 'The X Files' taught agents that the truth is out there but only capturable by pencils.
We have seen that they are unreliable and have committed illegal, felony acts.
Clearly the counselor has never been thru the drill..
Where are you going?
I'm not saying...rights you know.
Why won't you say where you're going?
Not saying...rights.
Why won't you tell us why you won't say where you're going.
Not saying...rights.
They keep the circle argument going for 20 minutes and it's still "Why won't you answer our questions. Why are you hostile and uncooperative?". AND SO ON...
Next thing you know is you're going to be arrested because you're obstructing their "investigation." Which is finding out where you're going in the first place. It just doesn't make any logical sense.
@@blizzy78 yeah, that’s another lie to intimidate someone into talking. If they have information on you already, then they will likely arrest you. You can talk your way into an arrest, but not talk your way out of one.
47 down votes are from cops. lol
A great reason to buy a doorbell cam. They'll first claim that they can't hear you and would you at least open the door. When you do that, the foot goes in the door so you can't close it without "assaulting an officer". And that foot won't move until they let you in. Doorbell cam removes all that drama. They talk to the video recorder.
"we just want to have a quick look around", once you consent, that could mean using crowbars on your house.
I never talk to police at my door. Example. 5 years ago, I was sitting on my front porch, which is enclosed. There is a custom built, reinforced steel frame with steel mesh screen door, it deadbolts automatically when it closes and needs a key to open from the outside. There are 3, 6 inch steel slide bolts, top, middle and bottom of door, so in the event the lock is picked, and these are engaged it cannot be forced open. The neighborhood I was in was not the best, lot of break ins, and lot of rapes. As I sat there, three detectives rolled up, and walked right up to the screen door and attempted to open it. I walked over, engaged the 3 slide bolts and sat back down, when they started their little spiel of lies, I just put my headphones back on and went back to my book and ignored them. They stood there banging on the screen door, until I put the book down, took off my headphones and grabbed my beer and walked inside. The second screen door is built the same, The only thing I said to them before I closed the front door was when he said "They were just looking to talk." I told him since there are three of you, talk to each other. Shut the door, and secured it, went downstairs to rumpus room and started playing Warcraft. On the CCTV, they stood outside another 5 minutes, tried walking into the backyard, couldn't get in there, and finally left. What it was about was the neighbors dog, a Husky, had been getting out and terrorizing another persons cats, winding up killing one of them. The neighbor filed a police report, and these "intelligent detectives" came to the wrong address. The second time was easier, I just told them I do not allow solicitors on my property, and shut the door in their faces.
Make sure you keep your doors locked at all times. I've known people where the cops got a noise complaint and the cop just barged in and started questioning people.
That happened to me when I lived in TX. I had just gone to bed, my 2 friends stayed playing video games, cops just walked in. I heard everything from my bedroom. This was before lapel cams. Now, I always keep doors locked!
One time in college I passed out with a skipping cd in the player on blast. The cops came in and searched because the door was already broken from a prior incident and they saw weed when it came swinging open.
They took all of my weed and paraphernalia but couldn’t charge me because of the door.
Best advice, record with phone, I always advise record everyone (Australia) on the phone, in the police station in the street and in the home, then break the recordings down into a word document, eg: @2.30 mins this happens @2.45mins this is said
Makes it easier for your lawyer to understand and makes it so much easier to catch police lying or making false statements.
I have a case and I have 11Gb of evidence against police and they are not happy, everytime they come up with a charge I hit back with my evidence and charges get dropped, also makes it so much easier to sue police
I think its likely that the cops wouldn't even tell you their purpose is to investigate you. They might say they're looking for a lost child, a part that fell off an airplane, or something where they need your help in the hopes you'll let them in.. and once they're in, its a different game.
Yes. Police ARE allowed to lie to citizens. This is why they never get in trouble for making up laws.
It doesn't make sense that police are allowed to lie. I completely oppose this development. It totally undermines their authority. If they can tell me any lies then basically I can completely ignore them because I have no reason to ever believe a word that comes out of their mouth, or even the fact that they are in fact real police. This is a deplorable development and should be overturned.
@@lexpox329 It does make sense that cops are allowed to lie.. that is part of their investigation techniques..
And you are correct that you can never trust what a cop says.. there is ONLY one solution that works.. "Mr Police Officer, I'm going to exercise my right to remain silent and I want an attorney"
You might think that saying such a thing would look bad in a court of law.. but they're not even allowed to bring it up.. Your silence CAN NOT BE USED AGAINST YOU... Any if you say that to a cop, he will realize he can't push you around.. COP: But you're not under arrest YOU: I want an attorney
Once or twice with that answer and the cop will stop.. they're not allowed to pester you after you request an attorney.
@@rgbcolor6450 upon further investigation I have changed my mind. I think its probably necessary when dealing with certain situations, such as undercover work for police to be able to lie. And technically the current caselaw allows for them to lie only when they have an actual legitimate line of investigation they are following. I still think it massively empowers officers and that power can be abused by bad cops to the detriment of the public. I can't really think of a better way however given that criminals aren't going to cooperate with getting caught. If you are truly innocent of any crimes it seems like the best course of action is just to be silent and get a lawyer, so you can't misspeak and end up regretting it. Also if you are wrongfully arrested you really should just accept your going to jail for the night or whatever and fight the wrongful arrest in court. Resisting the police in the moment only gives them the right to use force.
Vampires cannot cross your threshold until they are invited in.
Don't answer the door. Tell them to leave and don't come back without a warrant. Make sure you are recording before saying so. That way if they continue to knock you can then sue them for harassment and they can't get away with it since you recorded it. Make sure before going to court or reporting it you upload the video with the date and time to RUclips or some other website and make it a private video. That way they can't delete the video won't have access to it until they are in court.
I saw on another defence lawyer YT video that 1 of his law student's said the Police wanted a witness statement from the student. The student was confident & innocent of any crime... & was going to talk. The lawyer cautioned against it - & told the law student to tell the Police he would co-operate & talk - as long as the Police signed an agreement to FULL IMMUNITY for the student.
When the student relayed this to the cops, they never spoke to that student again.
Hmmm... so much for cops' 'innocent witness statements'.
Here's how to handle knock and talk; watching tv, knock at the door, keep watching tv.
Good to know. Hope I never need it, but good advice. Like I always said "every time I interact with the police it winds up costing me lots of money" And my favorite saying I always say "If I never see another cop as long as I live, that's OK with me".
feel free to call a pig a pig
If you are going to talk to them, even through a closed door and to say you don’t talk to police without your lawyer, make sure the TV or radio is off. If they hear something, anything other than your voice, they can claim they believed there were exigent circumstances and break down your door.
Us criminals all over the world appreciate you help, thank you so much
Thanks much Mr. Brian. Very helpful information. Those like me watching your videos are much in your debt. Respectfully
They might say they think you might be a witness to a car accident, but they might also just want to see if you were at a certain place at a certain time.
a pig is a pig regardless.
If you have a screen door, keep it locked at all times. When they open the screen door, knock and you swing open the door they’re halfway in your house. Tell em to keep their hands where I can see em and don’t make any sudden movements.
Math: in any large group of people, the people range from heroes to villians. Police is a large group of people. Ergo, some police are going to be villians. Sometimes protecting yourself is going to include protecting yourself from the police.
Just ask my dad who was hospitalized by police because a) he answered his door and let them in, b) he refused to go with them for the simple reason that the name they gave for who they were looking for was not my dad, it was my neighbor. They didn't care, assumed he was lying, argument ensued, they took my elderly dad down to the floor, injuring him. Meanwhile their target was a guy nextdoor. Qualified immunity resulted in my dad paying his medical bills, fun fun.
*Note: yes, my dad probably could have solved it by showing his ID, but he was pissed off at how rude they were when they pushed inside his home, and refused to cooperate with them other than to say "I'm not that person" to them over and over.
Spent a lot of time with many people in my time but never came across a pig I would trust
I have had them say" We need you to come outside so we can talk." It seems your hearing me just fine. I will not go outside and I have absolutely nothing to say to you. Call my lawyer.
"we just want to talk"
How many of their are you?
"2"
Talk to each other on your way off the property.
Look up Mitchell v. City of Henderson. Henderson, Nevada police on 2011, forced their way into the home of Micheal and Linda Mitchell, to use the home as an "observation post" to watch a neighbor during an investigation of domestic violence. The police and city of Henderson are seeking for dismissal of the lawsuit.
I know the case and Mitchell was totally in the wrong. He had a responsibility to help the police settle the case next door. You also neglected to mention the sniper blind in his house. The police won that, as they should. The Mitchell case has no bearing on what this guy is saying.
Two ATF guys showed up at my door as I gun I sold was found at a crime scene. This being IL I had proof of a legitimate sale and I scrambled to find the receipt so I could give them what they wanted. I had zero problem doing this (even though if the ATF wanted to screw you over, they could). But, these guys were grateful for my cooperation and help. They said they usually get turned away in situations like this (which I understand). Did I make a “mistake?” I am sure many would say yes.
Many would but I'm with you in that if there is a way to quickly defuse their suspension and send them on their way, that is best. I've done similar with the local PD (not gun related).
This tutorial works only in the land of leave it to beaver and you know it !! . The whole reason you tell people to grab their phone is to record what happens because you know cops lie and hurt people with impunity . I really hate this game lawyers , judges , cops and any member of the legal system plays where they pretend that they all follow the law at all times leading to this false air of non existent impropriety. You know very well the cops will pretend they can't hear you , pretend they hear something going on in the house , or my favorite claim they smell weed to make entry into your house . The best you can do is totally ignore the cock smugglers and wait for them to leave .
Not always true. Had a cop come to my house on 4 separate occasions to "talk" to me. I refused to talk without my attorney present, even gave him my attorney's number. The last time he came to my house he got angry and said I acted guilty. I told him to leave. He wasn't happy but he left. Never came back. Your advice is sound though. No warrant? Let them knock until they bruise their knuckles. lol
100% right , they will lie there ass off .
If the cops say "I smell (whatever)" I tell them it's my broccoli farts.
@Joseph Desmond Oh, bullshit. Most cops are just fine. You've got some Storm Troopers, sure. Some bullies hide behind the gun and badge. Most are trying to make the neighborhood a little safer.
@@baruchben-david4196 Does a "fine" police officer sit back and allow illegal activity from his friends to happen, or speak up? Trying to establish your definition of "fine" and if the law even comes into play. Is a neighborhood considered safe, in your opinion, if the police officer is the one breaking the law?
Cop: "We just want to talk."
My response: "That's what the girls always say to me on dates."
Thank you for your advice, and services to make others aware of their rights. Well done video, excellent demonstration
Well, I think he didn't cover how to handle heavy pressure tactics the cops will use to intimidate you into caving in to their search demands.
This is all good for dealing with on the level reasonable officers. A good video would be what to do with the majority of the ones who beat the door, demand entry, lie to gain entry. The ones that say they have arrest warrant for someone who doesn't live there and assert that they have a right to search the property for the person on the warrant. This sounds like great advice for departments that follow the rules, what are we supposed to do ( in the momment) when we know they are crooked and corrupt?
They have to produce the warrant. You don't have to take their word for it.
Record the entire interaction start to finish, and deal with the unlawful/unconstitutional aspects in court.
1) Don't open the door.
2) You don't have to respond to the knock.
3) If you do talk to them, talk _through_ the door.
- A) Record your conversation.
- B) They demand entry: Ask to see the warrant.
- C) No warrant, no entry.
- D) If they have a warrant, verify the address. If it's your address, let them in. Keep recording. (If they have a warrant for your arrest, you can't really keep recording because you'll be handcuffed. Fight it in court if you're innocent.)
Pigs are pigs. Some needs to learn that sooner than later.
I'm Watching TV; hear knocking, I'll keep watching TV...
I prefer text.
Here's a good example. My ex and I were having a fight. She swatted me, I swatted her back. It was an ugly emotional fight, barely a spitwad fight physically, but I knew that's enough for a domestic violence charge. She had no idea of the seriousness of the situation, but I did. She called the cops, being the complete idiot that she is.
Cops show up, and my ex greets them in the driveway getting the first shot at telling her shitty story. Notably, she admits to hitting me first, confessing to her own crime. They didn't arrest her, handcuff her, and drag her off to jail.
Then they come to the door. Knock, Knock, Knock, and that's all they got. They knocked over and over, beating and damaging my expensive mahogany door. I never answered. Later my ex admitted to me that the cops told her that had I answered the door, they would have likely arrested me, handcuffed me, and dragged me off to jail. Not her. Just me.
I didn't have to lie to the cops about hitting her. I didn't have to admit we had had a fight. I didn't have to admit I'd hit her. They got nothing, zippo. That wasn't the end, of course. They mailed both of us a domestic violence complaint. My ex and I reconciled, and I had to hire a lawyer to represent both of us, and ultimately the case was dismissed against both of us. Who knows if that would have happened depending on what I said to them if I answered the door. Even if I'd answered the door, handled myself in an ideal way, I would have been arrested no matter what. Likely I'd spent the night in jail. So not answering the door, not answering a single question, that for sure saved me that. My lawyer validated I would have likely been arrested and also validated that his job would have been much worse if I had answered any questions. So, don't answer the door. Don't answer any questions.
The cops should be our friends and protectors, some of them are. The problem is that some of them are actively trying to get dirt on you, others try to push you into making a mistake. These "problem causers" are the ones that American citizens need to protect themselves from. Treat EVERY cop (unless you know them) as an armed, dangerous person. DON'T let them into your home!!!
When my oldest son was in high school, I was home sick with the flu, knock on door, officer said they had 911 call there was someone here going to hurt themself. Suddenly, I felt guilty told officer come on lets go find out. Went to son room, he was just watching tv and puzzled why I was in his room with a cop, then emts arrived and more cops, finally one said obviously there is nothing wrong here, but no one made any move to leave.
I told them, they were welcome to stay but I have the flu and stepped closer to one of the cops. That's when they remembered they had other calls to attend to.
Covid19 ?
@@tinasan3870 it was way before covid
I had two officers come right in after me clearly denying them entry. Then one made a move to grab my hand so I pulled away and was arrested for resisting arrest. I did open the door when they came. It was dropped in court but jeez nothing like going to county jail and showing your butthole and doing a squat and cough... Lovely experience.
Pig is a pig however you dress it.
If I get a knock at the door I go out on the deck right above the front door, it makes people uncomfortable when you have the high ground. never had any cops show up but a few solicitors and they scoot real quick.
They understand your rights. but they still get pissy when you refuse a search.
Knock Knock. "Hello. I'm from the police. I'm here to sell you a consensual investigation, trumped up charges, an arrest, trial, conviction, fines, and jail time." (Monty Python sotto voce) "I told him we already got one."
Here's my not a lawyer advice. If they knock, and you don't hear "police, search warrant!!!" and the door doesn't explode inward from a battering ram. Don't answer the door, it could be something worse like Jehovah Witness.
If they got a search warrant, more often then not they don't even knock.
An interesting twist in Massachusetts. The state appellate court (Godfrey v. Wellesley) has held that exercising your 5th amendment right is just cause for revoking your right to own or possess any form of firearm or ammunition. Yes, really - the MA courts allow them to punish you if you choose to exercise your right remain silent.
Until a very recent federal court order, the police were getting felony convictions against persons who surreptitiously made audio recordings of encounters with policy. Add this to the "yes, really" file. See Commonwealth v. Hyde
Great video! Looking forward to seeing more videos like this.
Never assume that a police officer is your "friend" or is trying to help you. They are taught conversational techniques to get people to reveal information. Never volunteer information, or allow yourself to become "chatty".
Easier just to assume that none of them are your friend. You will be right more often than you are wrong.
True.
Use the good cop bad cop against them, separate them if you need to, and only deal with the bad pig .
Best bet is to never allow them onto property without a warrent and never allow them alone in a room with a child regardless of what you may think you may be guilty of as getting your kid spiked by the pig as that is the insult most likely to offend
Always remember: Cops are *legally allowed to lie* to ANY member of the public. I would be willing to bet money that *most or all* of the officers who said they wouldn't allow another officer to violate someone's rights either have done so themselves or *witnessed* another officer do so AND DID NOTHING.
The police use a "one bad apple" defense to say that the bad cops are few and far between... and yet *every* medium-sized or large department has them and *every* officer in those departments (or most of them) know about those officers' activities. Because the actual aphorism is "one bad apple *spoils the barrel*". As soon as you know there is ONE bad apple (a bad cop) in the barrel, ALL of the apples with it (the entire department) are suspect. Rot spreads.
"any police officer who gets upset in this situation is not a good police officer" cracks me up cause I actually had to deal with a rookie that was looking for a fight.
NEVER open the door because they will put their hands on you. If they wanna talk they can talk through a window. Best thing to do is not even answer the door, act like no one is home.
Good advice, thanks for posting the video. Make a video explaining what the real job of the police is. Many people think they are here to protect and serve which is copaganda.
Protect and serve are their words, not their actions...
They protect and serve...their corporate masters.
protect and serve their own interests
I had that happen once. I told them I was closing the door because the stench of Pig Sh^t was too overpowering.
Good information - Cheers, from Australia. Also, its good to have permanent, continuous recording at your front door with the use of an installed CCTV camera. If the Cops see the camera they are more likely to be polite. And Cops are less likely to ask you to " rip the camera off the wall" than to ask you to " put the phone away ".
Feel free to call a pig a pig
Learned this years ago from good old Barry Cooper ex Interdiction officer! He always taught to tell the police that you’re not going to open the door and that if they need to come in here are my hands just go ahead and kick the door in. Ahhh the good ole days of the marijuana industry!
everybody needs to SWAT proof their house to protect themselves from the state because it seems like they are more dangerous than the criminals.
Thank you sir... You have empowered me in a legal way. I have no doubts now what to do.
Cops have a job to do and should not be defunded, but remember their job is to provide revenue through arrests and fines. They are not your friend.
Had one of those knocks on my door a few days ago. It was the police. I refused to open the door and speak with the officer. He claimed that he was there conducting a welfare check requested by a relative. That was a lie. It was chilling experience.
What's funny is if all criminals follow the one rule which is never talked to anyone but a lawyer police would not be able to use their own words against them and they would have to let most people out of jail.
Not to mention the fact that if at least a third or half of people plead not guilty everyday to every single ticket that was written out and wanted their day in court the system would be backed up so far that they would have to let all misdemeanors go
Police and the courts count on people not wanting to or not being able to afford taking time off work to fight tickets.
i'm glad these kinds of videos are posted , most people dont know ANY of their rights period