I switched to PC in 2016. I built a PC because i wanted to play StarCraft and world of Warcraft without lagging. (I was playing them on an office PC) I was never planning on the PC to replace my PS4, but after I decided to buy some really cheap games from steam on the summer sale and realized how smooth they all ran, My new PC slowly took over more of my gaming time until I wasn't even turning on my console anymore.
There’s so many excellent titles that consoles will never come close to seeing and console players may never even be aware of. It’s just a far more expansive experience.
@@johnnylawrence7509 “name them”? Too many to name, but I’ll offer a few I’ve been playing recently; Kenshi, Project Zomboid, Manor Lords, Supreme Commander, the Civ series, Half-Life: Alyx, etc. add in modding capability and a 30 year back catalogue and it’s even more profound. Feel free to look up scores for whatever you like.
I am a personal IT for a lot of my friends and family members. They don't need the knowledge about PCs or phones. They just ask, give me a budget, I send them what to buy, we meet, drink few beers while building the PC and them I share them my Steam library so they can try new games and test their new toy. It is great. Also streaming games via Steam to a different device is such an overlooked feature. I play games at work on my cheapo-o office laptop while my PC at home is running the games. No need to buy expensive gaming laptop. For free.
The day I became aware of emulation, that I can play all my childhood ps2 and old nintendo consoles on pc, games that are lost and forgotten, games that never got a remaster or remake, games that are abandoned and I would've never seen again had I stuck to consoles; was the day I decided to become a PC gamer. PC forever. Praise lord Al Gabe
Couldn’t agree with you more. I realized how much of a scam console gaming is when I was playing Arkham City on my Series X and it was STILL locked at 30FPS. Picked it up on Steam for cheap and couldn’t believe the difference. Edit: switched to pc this year by the way
While getting to Play GTA Online at 60fps WITHOUT needing to worry about modders and hackers on Series X is nice, for the most part I still play most games on PC now. That still is a valid point I was disappointed when the Xbox One version was still locked at 30. Im probably not going to pick up GTA 6 because of how greedy and incompetent Rockstar has become
PC gaming did literally change my life. After switching to PC in 2020 and building my first PC in 2023, a whole new world opened up to the point of me switching careers into IT. Will also be finishing my associates in networking this year. I will always thank goodness for the PS5 shortage, because none of this would have happened if I was able to get one.
@@johnnylawrence7509 I'm playing on. i7-12700kf, 3060 12gb, w/ 32gb of RAM. Not spectacular, but it's my first build. Paid 1200 for all parts so not too bad. I should have gotten a i5 it would have been cheaper and I wouldn't have to worry too much about a bottleneck. But the extra processing power is really nice for my VM setup. I'm thinking of setting up a NAS as well. Though I don't know if I should use it for media streaming using plex or maybe setup my first file server. I'm also 33, so there's no need to call me a kid. also: 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100111 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100001 01101110 00100000 01101001 01100100 01101001 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101100 01101111 01101100
I wish you start doing more videos like this, explaining why you prefer the PC when it comes to specific things as ideas for future videos or just talking about specific games, something to branch out instead of replying to articles and Twitter comments. Again that's just me, regardless you're still doing the Lord's work at spreading the PC superiority!
Came here to say this I want him to nake a video explaining to people (like me) the beginners stuff because I have no idea about the chips, cpu, gpu etc. And I trust him
@@tokiwartuthe There's plenty of videos you can watch if you are in a hurry but sure Joe could do one. It's not that hard but you need to exactly know what you want based on the budget you have. At first it might seem daunting just pay attention and try to find the answers if you don't understand something, that's what I did and I haven't much of an issue since then.
@igornikolovski511 Unfortunately he will not need to. This video would still be relevant if it was released 10yrs ago. He may not have to make any other video such as this as consols vs PC will always equate to: PC is better because 9/10 reasons and console is better because 1/10 reasons despite that 1 reason for console soon becoming extinct so PC will win either way.
PC is a lot like the French monarchy during the Revolution: they think they are high and mighty until they get brought down to earth. PC is about to feel the same fate
@@thatonefpsgamer1339 Is not having free online and free games, and mods, and overall being cheaper *not* 'high and mighty'? Me wonder what yuwur definition of "high and mighty" is then? :3
Gaming is all about choice. Play where you want. Don't be influenced by anyone. If you want to ditch a platform, stay on a platform or stop playing entirely that's all up to you.
and that ! that is facts made the move from console to pc and love pc so far does it mean i hate ps5 and im going to sell mine ? NO i had a blast on ps5 but just for me i had to move on cause i didn't enjoy it anymore so i simply got a pc
Stop with this "iT's SuBjEcTiVe" BS. Standards are important. If everyone thought the same way you do, then we'd never have progressed past Pong. If you don't want to contribute to the discussion, then just say nothing instead of spouting the type of stuff you'd hear in a educational show for preschoolers
It's amazing that my 2 year old PC can play current games at 4K 90 to 120 FPS on my OLED TV with a 3080. While at the same time play all the retro games with any retro console at 480i with my old AMD S-video Card on my CRT TV.
I first got into computers back in 01\02. I was given a hand-me-down PC just for emulators and roms. Then later on I would play on console and in 2010/2011 is when I built my first budget PC (AMD Phenom x4). In 2016 is when I upgraded to a newer PC I built that was around $1,400.00 after taxes and parts with research. My most current PC is around the same price or less. The benefits alone I have received from gaming/software use and other features and things I use or don’t depending on my preferences is truly great. Including the ability to play games online without the mandatory yearly paywall or restrictions on frame rates or visuals/etc. If a console gamer like me could learn to build a PC and purchase parts here and there to build my own, so can you too. Welcome to the PCMR!!!!!!
Let's also not forget the flexibility PC gives you. Want to play keyboard and mouse? You have that option. You want to sit back on the couch with a controller and a big TV for a cosy console-like experience? You can do that with any controller of your choice and a simple tap of the guide or PS button will immediately open Steam in big picture mode. I bring this up because still to this day, people seem to think that PCs confine you solely to a desk setup and I find myself every single week having to debunk this.
I don't get why someone would buy a Console and defend that Console, when PCs are easier to buy than ever. There was an estimated 16.2 million PS5 and PS4 games sold in 2023. An estimated 580 million games were sold from Steam alone in 2023, (not counting GOG, Ubisoft Store, Epic Games, etc), but with those numbers added, it's easy to see that the number could be over 1 billion PC games. There's a reason so many people are switching to PC gaming, it just makes for a better gaming experience.
@@thepierre396 PCs are more bang for the buck. Upgrade or not, you're still getting more for your money. Consoles are so 2000s. Buy a PC and be happy or buy a console and worry if you've made the right choice. It's really about choice. With Consoles you'll just have to settle for their product the way they designed it.
@@kiillabytez pc gaming is like constant tinkering, every game is raw and you have to set everything up before you can start playing and even then after sometime it has stuttering issues or lag or some other issue.
@@ramspaypal6052 When has customizing your experience a bad thing? If a game has performance issues it's your rig, if you have a good rig then it's the game. Consoles are so early 2000s. Get with the Modern age and just get a more mature gaming platform, the PC.
Couldn’t agree more! Consoles to me is spending more in the long run for a worse experience and a few extra game that will inevitably come to PC. I’d rather spend more upfront and get an infinitely better experience on PC.
Honestly, most of those Console exclusives aren't even worth the data they're made from. Seriously, when was the last time you bought a Console game just to get bored of it and are now confused because the hype was tremendous for that title, and then you start blaming yourself for the lackluster gaming experience?
I was a consoles guy and enjoyed the hell out of my ps3 and ps4 and even my switch but after I invested in a gaming PC I could do all those and much more, even emulate old games for free and the best parts are modding and playing online without a stupid subscription. Everything's all there for me. I just wish certain games were on PC like the gravity daze games but man....consoles are highly lackluster and limited.
Remember when it happened to me. I mentioned that I always wanted to get a gaming PC. and because I have such goated friends and one of them literally works in the field, I came over to their house on my birthday night and they had me help them build a PC. once it was done they said "happy birthday" and even thinking about that day gives me goosebumps. Literally kept looking at it and back at them going "nah nah no way, theres no way thats whats happening" Still my good friends. they wanted me to be able to game with them as well.
Learning to build a PC is well worth it if you’re attempting to save money. Prebuilt machines of the same caliber will cost you 15-25% over what you’d pay for the components.
After I got PC I realised how much of a scam consoles were. Even tho I only use controller I refuse to use mouse and keyboard still a 100x better experience I love having that choice, I can use whatever controller I want, play whichever version of a game I want(no removed songs after I buy it, no GTA 'Definitive' Editions) I can use emulators, different launchers and most importantly I don't have to pay a stupid subscription fee to play online. I've saved a TON by not paying subscriptions. I will never buy another console
As much as I respect your position I can’t stand but whisper “give KBM a try”. It may sound a bit pretentious but there are games where such potent input device will show itself even stronger than controller
@@Chasodey Nah my setup isn't really made for kbm It's still a console setup I sit away from the screen. Just with a PC box instead of an actual console
@@ross3695_basedhax Ok, got it. But there also wireless keyboards and mice in case they will be needed, not all games support controller especially old ones
When my son moved out he left his gaming PC. I cleaned out the dust, installed some new hardware. I am switching from PlayStation. Long time fan since PS1.
PC is timeless and were never locked to any generation. Your wallet decides how long a PC will last. Also don't forget that gaming PC's is also great for AI scaling of video, Video editing and millions of other things. Online is free, there is probably 40-50 stores on PC competing on game prices every day of the week.
Another reason the PC hardware is more expensive is because the console manufacturers usually sell the hardware at a loss to entice you into their ecosystem. Eventually, they can get the costs down to make a profit, but most of the time, MS, Sony, and Nintendo are eating some of the cost that isn't as common in the PC market. The Steam Deck might be sold at a loss, but you dont require a Steam Deck to play Steam games.
Tbh, the only negative I have for the steam deck is that it feels too big for my liking when it comes to portability. But eveything else about the system is top notch, and I'm a switch user saying this.
Top 5 reasons I switched to PC: 5- Free Online 4- Any controller I want 3- Better Performance 2- It's Cheaper 1- More games than every console combined
PC = Best on Desktop. Best gaming platform ever, and for everything else. Mac = Apple Silicon has superior battery life and is rapidly catching up to PC for once in gaming with ray tracing and 22 hour battery life! Best in class productivity performance and all day battery life. Console= Literally PC regurgitated slop parts, junk sold to you at a premium price for less on every level. And GTA6 is exclusively chained to this last gen hardware, sold as current generation, instead of GTA6 releases first on PC… why Rockstar?…why… Nintendo = If Switch 2 is simply backwards compatible with the Nintendo Switch, and NVIDIAs new GPU in partnership with Nintendo can FINALLY do the imperative, get Nintendo immedietly to 4K and DLSS supersampling, I will give Nintendo and NVIDIA all of my money for a VERY long time happily. Nintendo will then be the only console that matters. NVIDIA will dominate as per usual. Always remember, If buying isn’t owning, piracy ain’t stealing. Not a console hater at all I crave all the consoles, but PC is still the indestructible gaming overlord! Love the MSI TItAN 18HX behemoth gaming laptop, MSI Claw is laughably awful compared to the OLED Steam Deck and the Z1 Extreme ASUS ROG Ally, superior handhelds for gaming by FAR.
PC ONLINE IS FILLED WITH CHEATERS HACKERS AND MODDERS ON A COMPLETELY UNEVEN PLAYING FIELD. 😂😂😂😂 2) THE DUAL SENSE IS BETTER THAN ANY CONTROLLER YOU'RE USING ON PC. 3) PC GAMES ARE UNOPTIMIZED GARBAGE AND CONSOLES WHEN EVERY AWARD FOR VISUALS GRAPHICS ART ANIMATION ETC EVERY YEAR. 4) YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. 5) NAME ONE SINGLE GREAT PC EXCLUSIVE. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
5- PC ONLINE IS FILLED WITH CHEATERS HACKERS MODDERS AND A WILDLY UNEVEN PLAYING FIELD. 4. WHO GIVES AF. CONSOLE 1ST PARTY CONTROLLERS ARE THE BEST ON THE MARKET. 3. CONSOLE GAMES AREN'T ONLY OPTIMIZED, THEY WIN EVERY AWARD IMAGINABLE ACROSS THE BOARD EVERY YEAR. 2. CHEAPER HOW? $2K SYSTEM TO PLAY DIGITAL GAMES YOU DON'T OWN CAN'T SELL CAN'T TRADE IN. 1. MORE GAMES... GREAT... NAME 1 SINGLE GREAT PC EXCLUSIVE. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Those are absolutely horrible reasons. PC online is filled with cheats, the DUALSENSE is the best controller on the market. PS5 games are optimized. I mean WTF are you playing on PC that you weren't playing on consoles FFS?
i joined the PC in 2009 operating on a rebuilt compaq desktop to play the sims and total war series,. built my two rigs, Nightmare and Hydra, in 2015 and 2020 respectively. and now i have two AMD Ryzen 5 and 7 gaming laptops with 3000 cards
i got into pc gaming when i got really heavy into games like witcher 3 and the mass effect series. It was more money to get into pc gaming but man thats probably the best decision ive ever made.Pc makes all the games ive played on console feel like brand new games.praise the omnissiah
I can think of only one thing I hate about PC gaming. As a PC gamer. Before PC gaming, I never once considered touching my settings to adjust a games performance. I just went full default all the time.
I moved to PC in 2017. The only reason I have my Playstation 5 is because of Bloodborne and Demon's Souls. Even then I feel like I wasted my money even though I play them a lot. Although I do like the old retro consoles up through the original Xbox, GameCube, and PS2. They are fun novelties and can be cheap if you know where to look for deals or get lucky. If a game I want for one of those old systems is too expensive, I just emulate it. I could emulate everything, but original hardware just hits different for me since I grew up in that era of gaming.
finally someone said it im so sick of the "its more expensive" argument when over time you pay way more on a console good video, good talking points and well explained
You’ll pay more on games through steam than what you would have through game pass. £1000 for a PC or £199 for a series S. not to mention Xbox has free online play for free online games so why would i fork out 5X as much for what is the same as an Xbox
you basically have a lifetime of games for free at your disposal on the PC side. Majority can run on low end. Even now I’m playing a Pokémon rom hack (Pokémon Pathways if you’re wondering) on my computer.
i wouldnt call constantly tinkering with the graphics settings, RTSS, vsyncs, config files, etc... just to try to make games playable, a benefit. and not to mention your pc starts using up more and more memory overtime and slows down eventually, cos windows. and its not like after all that tinkering you will have a smooth experience, bcos like i said, your pc keeps using more memory overtime so get ready to tinker eventually again.
@@ramspaypal6052 Nobody needs to tinker with pcs, and also we're just assuming you never need to tinker on consoles either. Joycon drift. Dualsense drift. Seems like a lot of tinkering to have to keep replacing your controllers that break every 1-2 years because the console makers want your money.
As a PC-only guy for years now, I will say one thing I HATE - so many PC ports release broken & often never get fixed. Like today, I was looking through JRPGs to try on Steam. I saw that Grandia 1&2 HD Remasters were there, and it's a series I've heard amazing things about, so I checked it out. Of course it was flooded with awful reviews, all talking about constant crashing, frame rate drops & how to switch to the old anniversary edition beta instead. This game has been out for several years now, but the devs left it broken. A couple months ago I bought FFVII Remake, yet there was a constant camera stutter that made it painful to play. Had to go into the discussions & dig up work-arounds to finally fix it by launching in an older DX, which then brought up new screen tearing problems. Had to go into Nvidia control panel to fix that, but then the frame rate was dragged down. And only reason I'm looking for new JRPGs is because Dragon's Dogma 2 launched in such a crap state, so I'm stuck doing something else until that's fixed! It's maddening! Even though consoles versions can have problems too, it's nowhere near as frequent since devs target them as the priority & their PC ports are an afterthought.
At least pc has independent storefronts like steam that will tell you what most players think, instead of the switch eshop with no reviews. The problem is with the games you bought and the developers not optimising for pc and being lazy. Dragons dogma 2 especially. That's not a pc problem, that's an AAA gaming publisher problem.
I really couldn’t care less about ports. We get so many excellent titles that console players won’t even be aware of and we generally get the best of whatever they’ve got on top of that.
@teddyjackson1902 You may be right, but PC also misses a lot of games or gets them much later. Recent ones that come to mind, Unicorn Overlord, FF7 Rebirth and the future Grand Theft Auto 6. I mostly play RPGs, and all the biggest ones are available on consoles too. In the past few months, I've played: Octopath Traveler 2 Baldur's Gate 3 Sea of Stars Persona 3 Reload Gran Blue Fantasy And I wanted to play Dragon's Dogma 2, but there's no point when the performance is so bad. I played all these on PC, even sold my Switch last week, but it's annoying that this is an issue I feel we're always dealing with
Having played PC Gaming since 2011, and being an IT tech, I can list off a few downsides of PC Gaming. 1 - Choice paralysis. There's so many choices on PC, it's often scary to people just getting in. It's an easy thing to overcome, but the initial shock is something to get over. What's an i5? What's a R7? What's DDR5? Stuff like this can and does confuse people. Which is why I hate when PC Gamers shun the purchase of pre-built PCs. 2 - Software woes. Updating a PC's software is nowhere close to as streamlined as a console. Consoles will just have a single loading screen. PC? graphics drivers, Steam Updates, OS updates, Discord updates. and while many of these are automated, some aren't, and sometimes things break after an update. It sucks when it happens, but eh. 3 - Cheating. One semi-nice thing about paying for online games is that it adds an extra layer of cost for cheating and being banned for it. Without that cost, the costs to cheating lowers. And since PC is open, downloading cheats is easier. Not to say cheating doesn't happen on console, you're an idiot if you think it doesn't, but it's easier on PC. 4 - Performance sapping softwares. If you truly want to use the biggest advantage of the PC platform, then you'll have software on your PC, that will lessen your performance a tad. Not much, unless you REALLY load up on background software, but every piece of software that runs in the background is wasted performance for games. This is the primary reason why "It's just another launcher" isn't a fucking valid defense for the EGS. It's another piece of software vying for CPU and RAM time... and maybe even GPU time if it's 3D accelerated. Having typed all this, none of these degrade the experience enough to overcome the PC's greatest advantage. Flexibility and openness. Your PC is yours. Not Valve, Intel, Microsoft, Epic, Nvidia, AMD or anyone can tell you what you can and can't do with it. Don't like Microsoft? Install POP!OS and never deal with Microsoft again. Not a fan of Nvidia? AMD's got you. Not a fan of Valve? Guess what, EGS and GOG exists! PC is more than a gaming platform, it's your platform. So despite the 4 things I mentioned above, the PC's advantages FAR exceed those of the console's.
@@dinar8749not only that people come in at different entry points. I feel like consoles are like a Metallica or a slipknot that then makes you discover other alternative music that you would have never gotten into if it wasn’t for that one gateway band
@@dewickedConsoles are not needed for the industry to survive. You forget that tons of indie games are founded and only playable on gaming PCs. The industry will survive without consoles. The only thing that might disappear for a while is gigantic AAA games. Though they'll return once devs see the potential profit from the PC Gaming audience.
In the country I live in, PC gaming is literally more expensive than console gaming in basically every single way. Not only are PCs and consoles double the price that they are in the PC (meaning a decent gaming PC is gonna cost you the equivalent of minimum $1800-$2000 USD), but games on Steam are nearly double the price that they are on Xbox and PlayStation, but specifically Xbox. Sony does raise the price of older first-party games every now and then but luckily MS hasn't done so yet. The reason why games on Steam are so expensive is because Valve got rid of regional reduced pricing for most games recently and now forces everyone to pay using USD instead of regional currency. Games that cost $60 on Steam cost like $45 on the Xbox store, while games that cost $5 on Steam cost about $0.25 cents on the Xbox store. So PC gaming is insanely expensive compared to console gaming; the benefits you get from PC gaming are just not worth the cost where I live.
Sucks to hear. I believe they did that because people would use vpns to buy games in some countries for basically nothing and would then resell the keyes.
@@LukasJampen Yeah that's exactly why. Valve heard complaints from developers that people were getting their games for dirt cheap so they raised the prices of all games on the storefront back in September 2023. Which, frankly, was not the right move. Instead of raising the prices for everyone, they could have just gotten rid of the ability to buy Steam game codes/keys in those regions to prevent people from buying games for dirt cheap and then reselling them on eBay or whatever. That's actually what MS did back in 2022. Instead of raising the prices of all Xbox games to match US pricing, they got rid of the ability to buy games as gifts (e.g. buy game codes) in certain countries like Argentina and Turkey. Sony doesn't let you buy game codes anyways, so that wasn't a problem to begin with; however PlayStation is being sued for having a monopoly of digital PlayStation game sales, so that might change if they lose the lawsuit.
@@Nycoorias GoG doesn't have regional pricing where I live (Turkey) and doesn't sell games in my country's currency, so they're just as pricy as Steam. Ironically, despite it being the most hated storefront among PC gamers, Epic Games Store is by far the cheapest PC gaming storefront because they're currently the only ones that actually have reduced regional pricing in my country. That, and the Microsoft storefront but there's barely any games on Microsoft's own PC storefront. A good example is Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade. On Steam, the game is just straight-up $70 USD. No regional reduced pricing whatsoever. Meanwhile, on Epic Games Store, FF7 Remake Intergrade is 699 liras, which is approximately $21 USD. It's on sale right now for the equivalent of $10 USD though. There are some games on Steam that still have regional pricing (albeit in USD and not local currency), like Baldur's Gate 3, but they're few and far between. At full price, BG3 is $35 over here. But even that's technically higher than what it used to be because prior to the Steam price hike, you could get Baldur's Gate 3 for less than $20, so the price almost doubled. So basically the only affordable way to buy games on PC where I live is through the Epic Games Store, but the EGS doesn't have like 70% of PC games anyways so what's the point of getting a PC here? You're better off just saving $700-1000 extra bucks and buying a console and paying for online if absolutely necessary. Because even with paying for online on consoles compared to online being free on PC, playing games on consoles is STILL cheaper compared to playing games on Steam due to the drastically higher prices. Besides, Game Pass Ultimate which obviously includes online costs only around $6.50 USD a month, while Xbox Game Pass Core (a.k.a. Xbox Live Gold) costs $5 a month. Game Pass Ultimate is so cheap that there's literally no reason why you'd choose Xbox Live Gold or base console Game Pass over it, considering GPU is only $1.50 a month more expensive than all the other Game Pass tiers. PS Plus on the other hand is somewhat more expensive, with PS Plus Essential costing around $5.40 USD a month (or $43 a year), PS Plus Extra costing about $8 a month (or $72 USD a year), and PS Plus Premium costing about $9.50 a month (or $85 USD a year). While it is cheaper than in most other regions, paying for online is of course still a bit of a nuisance, but even that is cheaper than spending hundreds of dollars extra just to get a handful of games on PC compared to on Xbox or to a lesser extent on PlayStation.
I decided to dip my toe into PC gaming when I bought a Steam Deck about a year ago. I recently upgraded to a Legion Go because I wanted a little more performance. At first, my XSX was my primary gaming device, but as time moved on and I began to understand and comprehend the highly customizable experience in the handheld PC gaming space, my Legion Go is now my go-to experience. I've been looking into getting an egpu for my Legion Go so I can have the option to dock the device so I can completely replace my XSX. Having the option to game on the go and dock is pretty amazing. I was never into desktop gaming PCs, but this recent boom of handheld PCs and the option to use an egpu to get better performance has completely changed my outlook on gaming as a whole. Absolutely loving your videos, JoeFromSeattle.
@@Bobori8989 The Legion Go is an amazing handheld PC, IMO. The only game I couldn't get running was Knights of the Old Republic, but that's because I didn't want to spend the time to research like I should have. I'm playing games from the early 90s to the current day and that was the ONLY game I didn't get working. Emulation is amazing as well. The weight isn't really an issue for me. I mostly play sitting up or laying in bed, so I always have a pillow or something similar to rest it on. The kickstand on the back of the Legion Go really helps. I had a Steam Deck LCD before the Legion Go, and the difference in performance is night and day. Also, docking the device to monitor and m&k is pretty straightforward and easy.
@@nighttilt convince me even more to buy legion go, i want to play my xbox game pass so steamdeck is no go for me, asus rog ally is a disaster and i waiting for their second generation asus rog ally x, but i think i’ll go with legion go. Thanks man
Think this logic ignores the mounds of games that were optimised for consoles over PC launched in 2023. Other than that, it's accurate. Edit: Actually... No, some of these opinions are poorly founded. The price of brand new games stayed at 50 USD for how long? From around the mid 90s? And whilst that happened, games have become more expensive to develop, regardless of platform? Some of the points made are but in absolute terms, this is very similar to the iOS vs Android debate but earlier on in the smartphone cycle. I have a demanding, full time job. It's nice to be able to just come home and boot into a game in seconds without worrying about drivers, GPU upgrades, multiple store fronts, etc...
My first console was the Xbox 360, that i got for free when my mum was a care worker with someone before she died of cancer then i switched to a ps4 and now i recently sold my ps4 to put that money in for a GPU, i wanted to switch for a while; had a steam deck as a trial run to see if i would enjoy and i did. I cannot wait until i build it and i can finally ditch the low fps
Building the rig you want is one of the joys of PC gaming tbh. You could put together a great budget build scouring the internet for new/used components, you could literally make your case out of legos, or you could build the ultra rig of your dreams with cutting edge CPU/GPU/motherboard combos that will render anything you could imagine. I love putting them together.
Couple things. I highly encourage new comers or console people switching to PC to look in to pre-builts. Less stress due to everything being done for you and more room to worry about learning the way PCs work. With the idea that you actually eventually take the time to learn about the components. I switched back in November and bought a prebuilt. Would have been stressed trying to build from scratch. Also id like to say the only real downside to PC gaming is getting things to work that just aren’t a issue on console. Things like old games just not launching and needing tk fiddle with PC settings.
Yes, the horror of having a settings-menu where you can get old games working. Upside to consoles is that it doesn't allow you to run old games at all, so it's more handy to buy the "next gen" release and throw old games to trash. I kinda like that i can play every PC game released in the past 30years + every console game up to 7th gen.
PC is my first gaming platform and I probably always stay here. I tried consoles, played some games on PS2 and a lot of on PSP (I feel old, it was over 10 years ago), but I never felt like it's something better for me. Mostly because well, most games I'm even interested in are on PC, and a lot of them are only on PC. I don't care about most of AAA titles, I mostly play cRPGs/jRPGs, singleplayer FPS and Visual Novels. Those three genres are pretty much mostly only on PC (maybe not jRPGs, but depends what you want).
The problem is the price and all the problems in programming, drives and OS… On the console, it’s just turn on and start playing right away at the best possible way the consola can!!!
I was the same as all these console players coping. "The human eye cant see more than 1080p 60fps" I had Xbox and Nintendo growing up. I got into PC in 2019 and haven't gone back since. Its the ultimate platform for hardcore gamers.
I mean if they're right about that, wouldn't it mean that we who can see more than 60fps are then superhuman? They literally admit we are the PC Masterrace
Nah man pc gaming drained me i shifted to console. Pc gaming is just not fun. It's messy, expensive, needs a whole lot of knowledge and tinkering just to make games playable. I'd play on pc only for the mods and that to only some games bcos it's not worth it.
@@LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus every game on pc is uncapped, and some even with no optimised settings. so in order to have a playable experience, even with an expensive rig you need to manually adjust the settings, cap the fps using RTSS and use the appropriate vsync option which is not available in most games so you probably need to use nvidia inspector to manually select the appropriate vsync for the fps and the refreshrate. All this (or more) needs to be done on every game to have a playable experience and it's assuming the game is properly optimised for pc. Consoles don't need all that, they are just plug and play. When you play Spiderman 2 on ps5 on a 120hz display in 30fps mode, it's using 1/4 vsync. Most people don't even know all this. On pc you would have to know all this and manually adjust it before starting to play the game. Not to mention console games come with precompiled shaders so no shader compilation stutters on consoles unlike pc. There's still a lot more reasons but I'll save them for later.
@@LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus I'll tell you a simple example, assume you bought a 12 GB GPU which runs games better than the consoles now, for next gen gaming, and after a couple of years into the generation some games started using more vram than that, bcos of various reasons, maybe the game just needs more vram well at first you though the consoles are worse than your GPU but now, they run that game better than your 12gb GPU bcos they have unified memory. You see what happened? Now you have to upgrade even though your GPU does run some games better than the console. That's just one example of how consoles gaming is better.
One detail you forgot about console curation in regards to games is that MS, Nintendo, and Sony will keep patches from going out as fast as they do on PC because the consoles feel the need to curate the patches as well for lack of a better word. Also I don't think you mentioned mods at all, and with Steam Workshop and the Vortex mod installer/manager from Nexus Mods it's not difficult to install them anymore.
As someone who can afford to game on multiple platforms I don't see why I wouldn't. The Playstaion and Xbox don't really offer anything that my PC doesn't do much much better, but my switch oled is modular (more than steamdeck at least), portable and is the only way to play first party Nintendo games without emulating. Some of them are damn near screaming to be ran on better hardware, but most are fine. Meanwhile my New3dsXL offers a feature literally no other platform in history has offered (I think), which is stereoscopic 3d without glasses. A lot of people have said they didn't care for the 3d effect but I personally adore it and it sold me on buying a crap ton of used games these past couple years. Which leads me to my final point, physical games. Both switch and 3ds offer physical game cartridges which can be traded or sold. I will admit this feature is overrated, as these days you can't really claim to own physical games anymore since they all require patches to play, and are often just keys for a download especially on the switch. But it is there, it is a reason to enjoy consoles. Spec wise and cost benefit wise PC is objectively superior, but humans are not objective creatures. Nobody is wrong or stupid for having a subjective preference.
PC Gaming has always been the king. I used to jump between which of being a fanboy, PlayStation, Xbox... But i ended up in PC Gaming all the time. Always ended up in PC Gaming. "NooOOooOo but PC Gaming has cheaters, no exclusives!!!1!1!1" Mf bro what you tryna say? Not everything is about multiplayer gaming, not everyone wants to play exclusives. Not to mention exclusives are coming to PC now (both PlayStation & Xbox exclusives). In PC Gaming, you OWN your game, you don’t have to pay just to play multiplayer games separately, you don’t have to pay for a subscription to play games, you aren’t limited to only playing games or watching movies. You are able to do ANYTHING, work, study, income, personal services, personal programs, social media, edits, raw power and technical power, personal customizations and whatever else you want. THIS is FREEDOM. THIS is PC Gaming. Is it that hard to understand? It’s all about a single logical reasoning, FREEDOM.
King of what? Name a year PC gaming was superior to consoles with the games that year on PC. 😂😂😂😂😂 Valve literally just came out and said PC gamers don't own their games and cannot bequeath them to other people upon their demise. 😂😂😂
ever since minecraft and cs:go in 2011/2012, my path to PC gaming was set. There is nothing stopping me from doing everything i would ever want in gaming. There are literally a handful of new games i cannot play on PC, but hundreds of PC and classic games i cannot play on new consoles
Remember a gaming PC is a computer which means you can use it for school, work, photo editing, video editing, browsing the web, and so much more. Most importantly with a gaming PC you can always upgrade any part you like but with console you are stuck with what you get.
@@johnnylawrence7509fym “pc gaming is dead”? With console, you have to pay subscriptions to play online, and you have no upgradability and customization on parts. But with PC, you can do literally anything you want. You can run any game, you can run any app, and you can use a PC for just about anything. Also you can choose custom parts to put in a PC.
@@tandoesvrPSN destroys PC online. Have fun with cheaters hackers and modders in every room kid. Comes with 40+ games a year, Share Play, unlimited cloud storage, and deals and discounts. The amount of electricity you PC uses is way more than the cost of PSN. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@tandoesvr OH ... FYI PC LOSES.... ANY YEAR. Every year. PC: 0 Great exclusives. Misses out on numerous GOTY winners every year. Windows garage OS Bugs, viruses, crashing. Malware, shovelware, bottlenecking, troubleshooting. No physical games. No first party developers. Horrible online plagued with cheaters hackers and modders. Gimped unoptimized and late 3rd party ports. Garbage / virtually non-existent local multiplayer. Loses best graphics, art, animation, etc to consoles first party games yearly. Gigantic, loud, energy consuming towers. Hunched over desk and chair gaming on a small screen. But yeah... Go ahead and name 1 single great pc exclusive. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Vs Consoles: Numerous great exclusive games. First party titles. Physical or digital games. 2nd party exclusives. Optimized games. Exclusive games that win Best Graphics, art, animation every year. Superior online services. Ease of use. Small, quiet, energy conserving. No bugs, viruses, malware, shovelware. Blu-ray Portability. Constant innovation from d-pad, to analog, to motion controls to Dualsense. If you're gaming on a PC it's because: A. You are a child and your parents control what you play and what you play on. B. You're a foreigner (not from the USA) and hate games based on American or Western culture. C. You are poor and can't afford a luxury item like a console. D. You are on the spectrum and enjoy repetitive point and click games. E. All of the above. 😂😂 Oh, and you want to talk about visuals? Best looking games by year: 2023- Spider-Man 2 (Not on PC), Alan Wake 2. 2022- God of War Ragnorok (not on PC), Horizon Forbidden West (Not on PC), Eldin Ring. 2021- Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart (Not on PC). 2020- The Last of Us Part II ( Not on PC), Dreams (Not on PC). 2019- Death Standing (Not on PC), Control. 2018- God of War (Not on PC), Red Dead Redemption 2 (Not on PC). 2017- Horizon Zero Dawn (Not on PC). 2016- Uncharted 4 (Not on PC). Should I go on? 😂😂😂😂
Since you want peoplw to switch i would like it if you did like a beginners intro to pc gaming like what to look for etc i need that in my life because I'm convinced im ready to make the full jump to pc
You can buy prebuilt gaming pcs from normal online retailers, or you can try building your own. For parts, basically; modern cpus are intel core i7/amd ryzen 7 3700X, modern gpus are nvidea geforce RTX/AMD Radeon RX 6600XT, ram should be about 16GB, for storage you'll need either an SSD or an HDD (SSDs are better but more expensive), win11 OS. You're looking at around $1100, basically double a ps5's price.
@@dinar8749 Bruh your information is completely out of date. Take for example my pc which has a ryzen 5 5600x (better than the 3700x and newer) and my gpu is the rx 7900 GRE. This performance is double the ps5s while being much cheaper than the pc you're suggesting. And even then the pc you're suggesting has old outdated parts which would cost like 500.
tbh honest I switched partially because my library is mostly digital on pc. I was running out of room for the games and if the discs ever got scratched that was it.
The physical media argument doesn't apply to most games anyway. In the era of day 1 patches and most discs being just a download and play key, the disc is a less convenient way of playing a digital download of a game. There are only a handful of games that ship with the full games on disc/cartridge nowadays. Even then, those versions are always going to be inferior to the patched versions of the game that most people will play.
@@hydrophobia936 Physical media could've been saved if each physical disc gave you a separate digital copy as soon as you inserted them, but that would be too pro-consumer.
Imagine a world where gaming is as simple as pie, where the biggest dilemma is choosing between pizza or nachos, not configuring graphics settings. That’s the console universe for you! Ease of Use: Consoles are like the trusty old toaster; you pop in the game and voila, it works! No need to worry about driver updates or compatibility issues. It’s plug-and-play at its finest. Cost-Effectiveness: With consoles, you get a full gaming setup without breaking the bank. PCs, on the other hand, can cost an arm, a leg, and maybe a kidney if you’re aiming for those high-end specs. Exclusives: Console gamers have access to a treasure trove of exclusive titles. It’s like being part of an elite club where the secret handshake is knowing the latest ‘God of War’ plot twist. Couch Comfort: Consoles are the kings of the living room. There’s nothing like lounging on the sofa with a controller in hand, as opposed to hunching over a desk like you’re plotting world domination. Social Harmony: Consoles bring people together. Sharing a couch and screen fosters camaraderie, unlike PC gaming, where you might need to send a search party to find your friend in their headphone-and-mic fortress. No Upgrade Anxiety: Console gamers sleep well at night, free from the fear of their system becoming obsolete. PC gamers? They’re haunted by the ghost of GPUs past, present, and future.
Came here to say this. I'm a PC gamer, but nothing beats the ease of use of a console. I guess that if more people even try a last gen console, they would be able to form a more informed decision... yes PC gaming is awesome, but also complex, fragmented, for a pirate it may be easier but I buy my games, and it's really not very nice using 564.930 different launchers.
@@RicardoCarvalhoPT I tried it briefly a few years back. Granted the games were great, I experimented with a few mods and VR but I put a lot more money into it than I normally would have as a casual gamer so I just went back to consoles.
Satire? I was about to reply with counter-arguments after seeing the first two, but some of these are so ridiculous that I can't tell whether you're being serious or not
If you just want to game, console bodies PC always. If you want to play a game and not spreadsheet create or make a negative clickbait YT video for dullards in an echochamber shitting in their own fishbowl... there is nothing is better than coming home, sitting on a big ol couch, grabbing a controller and turn it on and off ya go. Have my doggie and girlfriend next to me. Use a massive 75 inch OLED TV and 5.1 Atmos surround sound. It's like a theater experience. Recline back and enjoy gaming. Without all the rainbow light strips going of like a rave. For PC gaming I'd have to come home, sit in an adult car seat at a desk with a huge tower rainbow RGB PC, enter my code/password, listen to coil wine and 17 fans crank on, turn on my small monitor, turn on speakers, find the gaming launcher I have to use or select one of the hundred shortcuts on the desktop, wait for the launcher/game to eventually boot up, wait for updates, driver updates, tweak settings, wait for Shaders AGAIN, turn on my controller if I want to use it, slide my mouse/keyboard aside and don't bump it because the cursor will change controls, or use the mouse/keyboard leaning over the desk like Igor, if I want to play something else I'll have to quit the game and change launchers for a different one, wait for Shaders AGAIN... yeah, no thanks. You PCMR nerds can have all that for extra frames at a much higher price and lonely uncomfortable set ups. PC gamers are the kids at school who sat in the classroom doing more schoolwork than going to the playground to play with other kids then telling those kids they're wrong for just wanting to have fun. SDE all the time with these videos.
Feels kinda ironic, that why you're always criticizing the console wars and how stupid it is. Your just doing the same thing but with PC. Hypocrisy is a real disease. "oh the pc superiority" man, all is equally stupid.
Discs are download licenses, you cant play little big planet because its gone Piracy is amazing, free games Emulation is great, nintendo, ps3 and some more games can be emulated Steam discounts are insane Modding is amazing
Awesome vid. Agree 100% I was a lifelong Xbox person and recently switched to pc. I was quite confused about the hardware aspect when I was first getting into it so decided to get a steam deck. BEST PURCHASE EVER. I have learned so much about hardware to prepare me for building my first pc. On top of that - no monthly subscriptions - way cheaper games (often always marked down 70-90%). Literally buying my whole Xbox library again for 5$ here, 3$ there. - you can use a controller. ANY controller - even Wii remotes - you can play ANY game from ANY console - you have a fully functioning desktop computer to do any work you may need to. Video editing, word docs, etc - you can play LAN games still (I remember around the time I switched to pc Minecraft wouldn’t let us play LAN because I didn’t have a Xbox live subscription) - there is room for upgrades. Even on my steam deck, which is quite minimal as far as pcs go, I can do upgrades to the hardware I knew it was the end for console gaming for me when I got my Xbox one, installed my first game, and learned I had to put the disc in to play it still (even tho it’s installed). Then upon starting the game I learned that I need an Xbox live subscription or I can’t even play my new single player game. I have a couple friends who still play on console and have asked them why. They have no reason so I typically feel like most console gamers go console for the brand imprinting on their minds. It’s like how people still think apple is good and will defend it with their lives even though they have no reasoning as to how it does better than the competition.
got a pc back in 2020 and now i'll never go back to the console then in 2023 i decided to upgrade to a high end pc and now consoles are truly dead to me 😂
I started my PC gaming life straight after the xbox one was announced and released in 2013. I started with a medium to high end build (i7 4770k and gtx 770) I played at 1080p 60hz truly for the first time. the xbox 360 was a 720p machine which high school me didn't understand. I discovered mods for fallout new vegas. I found I could play all my old ps2 games again. I got 2, then 3 monitors. I slowly got into the keyboard hobby and audio with things like discrete DAC's and amps. I upgraded and eventually built my own full pc tower. I got so deep into it I forgot consoles existed almost. Recently I tried my friends ps5. I played forbidden west on a 4k HDR10 120hz tv... and the framerate was terrible. sure, you could put it on performance mode" but even for visuals it felt unplayable. I'd hate to spend $600(AUD) on a PS5 for it to run games like that. It feels like a home entertainment system with gaming as an afterthought. Console gamers will never experience triple wide, or even ultrawide for that matter. The true feeling of multi tasking. Also gaming PC's are just powerful computers in general which opens hobbies like 3d rendering, CAD programs, art and more. Also as I've seen from a lot of your videos, console gamers don't realize the awesome Truley exclusive games on PC. - Guild Wars 2 (or any mmo for that matter) - Scooterflow and other low budget sports games that are filled with passion. - modded assetto corsa and other games that may have a vanilla experience on console but the community has completely reforged on PC - super competitive games liek CS, LoL, DotA, Starcraft, Valorant etc. The way you can slowly turn your PC into the gaming machine of YOUR dreams is amazing. Everyone's PC is different and is made for them. I'm passionate about my PC, not a company, not even a brand of part for my PC, but of the idea that is my PC.
Both have their pros and cons.. i personally prefer consoles... but there is now best for everyone... not everyone wants to game on pc same as not everyone wants a console.. just let people game however they wish
I hate this "tHeY bOtH hAvE tHeIr OwN pRoS aNd CoNs" BS. Standards are important. If everyone believed in this educational preschooler show BS, then we'd still be playing Pong. Either contribute to the discussion, or piss off
I am switching the other way. Been PC gaming since my first pc, a 386 with a giant 850 Mb hard drive running windows three and all games were played on DOS
In what year has PC ever been better than console? In what country has PC ever been better than consoles? What are you playing on PC that's better than consoles best games? What are you playing on PC that's looks better than consoles best games?
in terms of hardware, it would usually take a fairly strong(and expensive) PC to get the performance of a console at the start of a generation. but torwards the end of it, the fact that the studios need to develop something that runs ok on the consoles starts to show and the components needed to upgrade a boring office box into something capable of gaming usually don't cost much. its why minimum requirements for games bearly change until some time after a new console comes out. but than there is the backwards compatibility, emulation and the fact that PCs can come in any formfactor you want. there is also a fair bit of free games that will run on fairly weak PCs so unless someone wants to play AAA games, PC might just be cheaper. if someone wants a game both on their PS5 and their Nintendo Switch, they would have to buy it twice and start from scratch. if someone owns a laptop/handheld(gaming PC), they can play a game on the go and than switch to their desktop for better graphics when they get home and want to play it on the big screen. not to mention expanding the storage is quite cheap on the PC.
If you hate Windows 10/11 like me, try Linux. Linux Mint, PopOS and KDE Neon are all worth a look. Nearly every Steam game runs perfectly on Linux nowadays, because of the Proton compatibility layer.
Unless the game has anti-cheat, or the developer just has a weird vendetta against Linux (Bungie). I briefly considered switching to Linux before finding out that GPU drivers are usually several versions behind Windows (because AMD and NVIDIA don't prioritize Linux) and many developers are vehemently against Linux for some weird reason.
Yes, Linux anti-cheat is not enabled on all multi-player games, but I don't play multi-player games. I've never had any driver issues. I despise Windows, and the privacy, versatility and variety of Linux is unmatched. I'll never go back to Windows. @@qu1253
The distro I used for a bit was garuda, which I thing is bast on arch (don't quote me on that). It has a differant aproch then most distros, garuda has a somewhat maximalist aproch. This means that it is more hardware intensive then most distros (should still be less then windows thou) and it is a bit bloated with programs that you probably won't use. But having a distros that has a everything you could want preinstalled could be useful for newcomers. Plus, it's UI is FUNKY!
Emulating a ps2 is so simple that quite affordable hardware can run near any game Hardware is Intel Core I5 2500k AMD R5 340x 8GB DDR3 Ram Put those in a small form factor office pc and your good to go, and well, get a ssd
hey whoa this is awkward being the first one for a change... anyways guys whats your favorite gaming platform? mines pc and switch lite. also whats your favorite gaming genres? mine are rpgs, survival, creature collection, sandbox and farming sims.
Gaming on PC is literally the pain ... games always crash because of drivers of hardware of overclocking gpu even from factory overclocking from bad graphics setting in the game its crazy to buy 1000€ gpu and then u must undervolt it because of high temps and vents go crazy like turbine or underclock it because of game crashing due to overclocking its crazy really PC case is gigantic extremely noisy and im not mentioning coil whine which is extremely annoying during gameplay I really spend much more hours with solving the problems with Pc than with playing games and console is small quite box u dont even know there it is where u just put disc or play from hdd with no problems literally in seconds
Nah I have a pc I've built from the ground up and it runs every game no problem. As long as you do your research and you select quality parts you will not have issues. I have an mATX pc which is smaller than a full tower and its quiet and cool not getting over 65c on my cpu or gpu. You don't have to overclock or underclock anything I keep my pc at stock settings.
@@yacquubfarah6038 RTSS, nvidia inspector, bottlenecks, shader compilation stutters, i have suffered through pc gaming enough to say its very tedious and not cheap.
@@ramspaypal6052 if you suffered from bottlenecks that’s your own mistake. You should have researched more in order to get the best configuration for your needs.
Always been a console guy and respect and know PC is the ultimate way to play games. That’s why I got myself a steam deck to play classics. Steam deck is perfect. I prefer handheld why I’m on switch as well. Ps5 for online with friends or some exclusives. Very few worth buying now.
Agree to disagree, I had a pc. Personally, I’m not a hardcore gamer or anything like that. I like to kick back on the couch, turn on the ps5 and play a game. Plus all my friends are on console, it’s easier .
Even if you’re not a hard-core gamer, the PC is a better gaming platform by virtue of the fact that you can do every productivity workload on it at the same time. Consoles are for gaming. PC is for everything.
Consoles are better at gaming bcos 1. Devs can optimize the game in ways that are not possible on pc 2. Consoles come with pre compiled shaders so no shader compilation stutter and also faster loading bcos of it. 3. They have unified memory 4. No need to set up graphics settings, framecaps, and figure out the appropriate vsync for the monitor and the game and what not. 5. It's cheaper 6. And ofcourse, no need to build it.
I recently upgraded my pc and have ‘made the jump’ to pc. To me, there’s pros and cons. The system is more expensive up front. Even a modest system, comparable to a Series S is probably £600. If you can afford a decent system though, the possibilities are endless. I’ve got an upper mid tier pc, and it wipes the floor with my PS5. Since Sony started releasing exclusives onto PC, there is no need for me to own a PS5 anymore. I use the pc for my ‘proper gaming’ and my series S to play on my couch when I want to sit in my living room. Game pass ultimate really is a god send for that.
The thing is, I love the idea of PC gaming. But I hate the toxic people of PC gaming that drives console gamers away from PC gaming. I mean, when I hear PC gamers call themselves the PC master race, it just make me feel bad, like I'm being looked down on for being a console player. So, this breeds hatred against PC gaming and paints both PC gamers and console gamers in a bad light. I hope you understand what I mean.
I think you're being too presumptuous of what the PC gaming community is actually like. The whole Master Race thing is more of a joke used against console gamers who don't know much about PC gaming in general. If anything the Xbox vs Playstation "hatred" is way bigger than PC vs Consoles.
@@teddyjackson1902 the only thing I really liked about PC you get mods and you get to play free online which I don't even really play online anyways so it doesn't matter only play online once in awhile I mostly play single player games
@@yacquubfarah6038 yeah PC is more powerful but it's more expensive and they got to find videos on how to build and then you got to check requirements for games it's a lot of hassle there's a lot of downsides to PCS yes they're more powerful but you got to do so much crap that's not even worth it
In my opinion, its perfect to have a souped-up pc and a switch for couch gaming, game collecting, and playing all of those amazing exclusives like Pokémon and legend of Zelda. Anyone else agree with me?
I can't sustain the electric bill of a high end gaming PC anymore, but I'm happy to be able to play some switch emulated games on an 10 year desktop APU and some older PC titles on steam Proton, since I won't be upgrading to Windows11 and will stay on Linux now. I tried PS3&Wii console gen but buying games, controllers and accessories was very costly at least the good thing about those controllers is I can still use them on my current PC.
My PC has cost far less than a console due to the savings made on game purchases and not having to buy a new controller every few months. Ive got more free games via the Epic store than there are in the whole PS catalogue.
PC is a god’s gift. I can play gta 4, fallout new Vegas, dragons dogma dark arisen and all the games that had no current gen re-release or 4k60fps upgrade and all the emulators under the basking sun. Also, the only “good thing” about the consoles and it’s a subjective thing is the physical media for the sake of collecting and having nice shelves with all the video games you own and that if you own the disc, then the game is all yours with no surprise delistings and no sudden library removals like Sony did with the National Geographic stuff
One thing I find to be intersting, is that, in the recent years, games on PC are selling much better than Consoles, when comparing recent games that was released to every platform, PC is pretty much always wining, the Wither 3, Star Wats Fallen Order, Elden Ring, they all sold more on PC, and even games like Red Dead 2, got to the double of players in less time compared to consoles. black Myth: Wukong recently released, right now it sold 4 milions, and 3 milions is only on PC. So that's pretty interesting, seems like PC is slowly becoming the more popular place to play game, is that going to continue? I don't know, but it is pretty cool to see how far PC has come.
"In the long PC gaming is cheaper" may have been true in the past, but really I think that's not true anymore. Hardware has gotten a lot more expensive, the price/price jump at the low to mid range every generation is becoming non existant, the pricing floor keeps getting raised, depending on how often you buy games and whether you go the physical route for console (therefore allowing you to sell games when finished to reduce the effecive cost), it's going to take a long time for the PC to become cheaper. And PC has a couple of subjective disadvantages that have always been there. First of all is that the cheaper price of games and sales tends to cause people to overbuy games that they don't need. When you are paying £50-£60 on a game, you really take time to consider whether you want it and are going to play it soon. When everything is on sale, you end up spending a lot more, on paper you got more value, but that value is not real if you don't actually play the games you bought. And to make PC gaming cheaper you also have to have a lot of self discipline to not upgrade your PC despite the marketing and internet hype around new hardware, it's designed to make you feel behind the curve and always be looking towards the next purchase. Admittely this is all subjective and there is going be people that read this comment that just say "I rarely upgrade and I don't have a backlog, I only buy games I will play". That's good for you, but the point still stands. PC gaming is a money sink, even when it doesn't need to be.
I love being able to use whatever the hell controller I want. My PC is in my living room. It's my media center. Plus, PC has sex and hentai games. Never gonna be on console.
I switched to PC in 2016. I built a PC because i wanted to play StarCraft and world of Warcraft without lagging. (I was playing them on an office PC) I was never planning on the PC to replace my PS4, but after I decided to buy some really cheap games from steam on the summer sale and realized how smooth they all ran, My new PC slowly took over more of my gaming time until I wasn't even turning on my console anymore.
those steam sales are addictive and will hook you... LMAO
There’s so many excellent titles that consoles will never come close to seeing and console players may never even be aware of. It’s just a far more expansive experience.
@@teddyjackson1902NAME 1. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@teddyjackson1902Can you name them? Include their meta scores as well.
@@johnnylawrence7509 “name them”? Too many to name, but I’ll offer a few I’ve been playing recently; Kenshi, Project Zomboid, Manor Lords, Supreme Commander, the Civ series, Half-Life: Alyx, etc. add in modding capability and a 30 year back catalogue and it’s even more profound. Feel free to look up scores for whatever you like.
I am a personal IT for a lot of my friends and family members. They don't need the knowledge about PCs or phones. They just ask, give me a budget, I send them what to buy, we meet, drink few beers while building the PC and them I share them my Steam library so they can try new games and test their new toy. It is great. Also streaming games via Steam to a different device is such an overlooked feature. I play games at work on my cheapo-o office laptop while my PC at home is running the games. No need to buy expensive gaming laptop. For free.
What software do you use to stream the games from your home computer?
The day I became aware of emulation, that I can play all my childhood ps2 and old nintendo consoles on pc, games that are lost and forgotten, games that never got a remaster or remake, games that are abandoned and I would've never seen again had I stuck to consoles; was the day I decided to become a PC gamer. PC forever. Praise lord Al Gabe
console fanboys: iTs JuSt 'NoStAlGiA' bRo oLd GaMeS R BaD
It's amazing having literally any console game I want on one system
And all my handheld games on a hacked 3DS
Me too but all my emulation is done on a mini pc with botacera connected to my tv. But any modern games I play on my pc.
@@ross3695_basedhax LMFAO... YOU CAN SPEND $100 FOR A MINI RETRO CONSOLE OR HANDHELD.
🖕 PC
LMFAO. EMULATION STATIONS WHILE MISSING OUT ON EVERY RELEVANT NEW GAME. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Couldn’t agree with you more. I realized how much of a scam console gaming is when I was playing Arkham City on my Series X and it was STILL locked at 30FPS. Picked it up on Steam for cheap and couldn’t believe the difference.
Edit: switched to pc this year by the way
Fucking Warner Bros
Welcome to Freedom
Freedom brother
PCMR!
While getting to Play GTA Online at 60fps WITHOUT needing to worry about modders and hackers on Series X is nice, for the most part I still play most games on PC now. That still is a valid point I was disappointed when the Xbox One version was still locked at 30.
Im probably not going to pick up GTA 6 because of how greedy and incompetent Rockstar has become
PC gaming did literally change my life. After switching to PC in 2020 and building my first PC in 2023, a whole new world opened up to the point of me switching careers into IT. Will also be finishing my associates in networking this year. I will always thank goodness for the PS5 shortage, because none of this would have happened if I was able to get one.
What are you playing on PC kid? 😂😂😂😂
@@johnnylawrence7509 I'm playing on. i7-12700kf, 3060 12gb, w/ 32gb of RAM. Not spectacular, but it's my first build. Paid 1200 for all parts so not too bad. I should have gotten a i5 it would have been cheaper and I wouldn't have to worry too much about a bottleneck. But the extra processing power is really nice for my VM setup.
I'm thinking of setting up a NAS as well. Though I don't know if I should use it for media streaming using plex or maybe setup my first file server. I'm also 33, so there's no need to call me a kid.
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@@fellowshipofgaming847 OOF. 😂😂😂😂
@@johnnylawrence7509 yeah oof youtube keeps deleting my comments.
I wish you start doing more videos like this, explaining why you prefer the PC when it comes to specific things as ideas for future videos or just talking about specific games, something to branch out instead of replying to articles and Twitter comments. Again that's just me, regardless you're still doing the Lord's work at spreading the PC superiority!
Came here to say this I want him to nake a video explaining to people (like me) the beginners stuff because I have no idea about the chips, cpu, gpu etc. And I trust him
@@tokiwartuthe There's plenty of videos you can watch if you are in a hurry but sure Joe could do one. It's not that hard but you need to exactly know what you want based on the budget you have. At first it might seem daunting just pay attention and try to find the answers if you don't understand something, that's what I did and I haven't much of an issue since then.
@igornikolovski511 Unfortunately he will not need to. This video would still be relevant if it was released 10yrs ago. He may not have to make any other video such as this as consols vs PC will always equate to: PC is better because 9/10 reasons and console is better because 1/10 reasons despite that 1 reason for console soon becoming extinct so PC will win either way.
PC is a lot like the French monarchy during the Revolution: they think they are high and mighty until they get brought down to earth. PC is about to feel the same fate
@@thatonefpsgamer1339 Is not having free online and free games, and mods, and overall being cheaper *not* 'high and mighty'?
Me wonder what yuwur definition of "high and mighty" is then? :3
Fun fact: the PC can play PS3 games while both the Playstation 4 and 5, as of this moment, still can't.
The pc is starting to play more simplistic ps4 games and it’s getting more and more into it
@@BinkBinkgmd True ps4 emulation/translation is picking up pace really quickly
@@BinkBinkgmdEmulators are great, but we are getting many PS4 and PS5 exclusives anyways. The reason we want a PS4 emulator is mainly Bloodborne.
@@joseijosei Ik im just listing another benefit of the pc that it can run anything
Bloodborne PC, here we come
Gaming is all about choice. Play where you want. Don't be influenced by anyone. If you want to ditch a platform, stay on a platform or stop playing entirely that's all up to you.
and that ! that is facts made the move from console to pc and love pc so far does it mean i hate ps5 and im going to sell mine ? NO i had a blast on ps5 but just for me i had to move on cause i didn't enjoy it anymore so i simply got a pc
Stop with this "iT's SuBjEcTiVe" BS. Standards are important. If everyone thought the same way you do, then we'd never have progressed past Pong. If you don't want to contribute to the discussion, then just say nothing instead of spouting the type of stuff you'd hear in a educational show for preschoolers
It's amazing that my 2 year old PC can play current games at 4K 90 to 120 FPS on my OLED TV with a 3080. While at the same time play all the retro games with any retro console at 480i with my old AMD S-video Card on my CRT TV.
PC is freedom.
Calm down looser.
But very expensive bro. Im not rich like you
@@cheerful_crop_circle Do you have a ps5 or xbox series?
@@dinar8749 No , that is expensive too because you have to buy very expensive games , accessories and pay for online subscriptions
And is expensive and unreliable, even impractical
I first got into computers back in 01\02. I was given a hand-me-down PC just for emulators and roms. Then later on I would play on console and in 2010/2011 is when I built my first budget PC (AMD Phenom x4). In 2016 is when I upgraded to a newer PC I built that was around $1,400.00 after taxes and parts with research. My most current PC is around the same price or less.
The benefits alone I have received from gaming/software use and other features and things I use or don’t depending on my preferences is truly great. Including the ability to play games online without the mandatory yearly paywall or restrictions on frame rates or visuals/etc.
If a console gamer like me could learn to build a PC and purchase parts here and there to build my own, so can you too. Welcome to the PCMR!!!!!!
i'm in the same boat; grew up playing on console but started playing on PC back in 2018 and haven't looked back
Let's also not forget the flexibility PC gives you. Want to play keyboard and mouse? You have that option. You want to sit back on the couch with a controller and a big TV for a cosy console-like experience? You can do that with any controller of your choice and a simple tap of the guide or PS button will immediately open Steam in big picture mode. I bring this up because still to this day, people seem to think that PCs confine you solely to a desk setup and I find myself every single week having to debunk this.
Yep I never use mouse and keyboard, I always using controller on my PC and use it like a console
except it's better
Good thing I have a third party controler that can connect to the PC. Still working on the configuration though.
Not only can you do this, controllers are BETTER on PC.
@@Nycooriasyea but most players who use a controller for multiplayer games on pc are shit at kbnm
What does this have to do with anything?
If I could sum it up in 1 word. Freedom. That is the difference between console and pc.
I don't get why someone would buy a Console and defend that Console, when PCs are easier to buy than ever.
There was an estimated 16.2 million PS5 and PS4 games sold in 2023.
An estimated 580 million games were sold from Steam alone in 2023, (not counting GOG, Ubisoft Store, Epic Games, etc), but with those numbers added, it's easy to see that the number could be over 1 billion PC games.
There's a reason so many people are switching to PC gaming, it just makes for a better gaming experience.
@@kiillabytez PCs are also pricier to buy than ever, for the least avantages compared to consoles than ever before.
@@thepierre396 PCs are more bang for the buck. Upgrade or not, you're still getting more for your money. Consoles are so 2000s. Buy a PC and be happy or buy a console and worry if you've made the right choice. It's really about choice. With Consoles you'll just have to settle for their product the way they designed it.
@@kiillabytez pc gaming is like constant tinkering, every game is raw and you have to set everything up before you can start playing and even then after sometime it has stuttering issues or lag or some other issue.
@@ramspaypal6052 When has customizing your experience a bad thing? If a game has performance issues it's your rig, if you have a good rig then it's the game.
Consoles are so early 2000s. Get with the Modern age and just get a more mature gaming platform, the PC.
Couldn’t agree more! Consoles to me is spending more in the long run for a worse experience and a few extra game that will inevitably come to PC. I’d rather spend more upfront and get an infinitely better experience on PC.
Come on console bois save up that money and buy yourself a real experience 😈
Exactly
Honestly, most of those Console exclusives aren't even worth the data they're made from. Seriously, when was the last time you bought a Console game just to get bored of it and are now confused because the hype was tremendous for that title, and then you start blaming yourself for the lackluster gaming experience?
How many PCs have u had?
@@Clifftowers I've had several through the years.
I was a consoles guy and enjoyed the hell out of my ps3 and ps4 and even my switch but after I invested in a gaming PC I could do all those and much more, even emulate old games for free and the best parts are modding and playing online without a stupid subscription. Everything's all there for me. I just wish certain games were on PC like the gravity daze games but man....consoles are highly lackluster and limited.
Remember when it happened to me. I mentioned that I always wanted to get a gaming PC. and because I have such goated friends and one of them literally works in the field, I came over to their house on my birthday night and they had me help them build a PC. once it was done they said "happy birthday" and even thinking about that day gives me goosebumps.
Literally kept looking at it and back at them going "nah nah no way, theres no way thats whats happening"
Still my good friends. they wanted me to be able to game with them as well.
Learning to build a PC is well worth it if you’re attempting to save money. Prebuilt machines of the same caliber will cost you 15-25% over what you’d pay for the components.
After I got PC I realised how much of a scam consoles were. Even tho I only use controller I refuse to use mouse and keyboard still a 100x better experience I love having that choice, I can use whatever controller I want, play whichever version of a game I want(no removed songs after I buy it, no GTA 'Definitive' Editions) I can use emulators, different launchers and most importantly I don't have to pay a stupid subscription fee to play online. I've saved a TON by not paying subscriptions. I will never buy another console
Thanks to Steam Deck i can play most of my Steam games on my PC using Linux instead of using windows.
BTW I Use Arch. (EndeavourOS)
Yea thr online subscription shit is bs 😂 thr last console i owned was a ps2 went straight to pc after figured i liked pc more anyways
As much as I respect your position I can’t stand but whisper “give KBM a try”. It may sound a bit pretentious but there are games where such potent input device will show itself even stronger than controller
@@Chasodey Nah my setup isn't really made for kbm
It's still a console setup I sit away from the screen. Just with a PC box instead of an actual console
@@ross3695_basedhax Ok, got it. But there also wireless keyboards and mice in case they will be needed, not all games support controller especially old ones
When my son moved out he left his gaming PC. I cleaned out the dust, installed some new hardware. I am switching from PlayStation. Long time fan since PS1.
PC is timeless and were never locked to any generation. Your wallet decides how long a PC will last.
Also don't forget that gaming PC's is also great for AI scaling of video, Video editing and millions of other things.
Online is free, there is probably 40-50 stores on PC competing on game prices every day of the week.
What is AI scaling of video?
@@cheerful_crop_circle Upgrading video quality on low quality video using AI.
Another reason the PC hardware is more expensive is because the console manufacturers usually sell the hardware at a loss to entice you into their ecosystem. Eventually, they can get the costs down to make a profit, but most of the time, MS, Sony, and Nintendo are eating some of the cost that isn't as common in the PC market. The Steam Deck might be sold at a loss, but you dont require a Steam Deck to play Steam games.
Tbh, the only negative I have for the steam deck is that it feels too big for my liking when it comes to portability.
But eveything else about the system is top notch, and I'm a switch user saying this.
My steam deck turned my ps5 into a stream machine😂 pc is completely better
Top 5 reasons I switched to PC:
5- Free Online
4- Any controller I want
3- Better Performance
2- It's Cheaper
1- More games than every console combined
with ghost of tsushima coming i wonder if i can use a ps3 controller for it on PC
PC = Best on Desktop. Best gaming platform ever, and for everything else.
Mac = Apple Silicon has superior battery life and is rapidly catching up to PC for once in gaming with ray tracing and 22 hour battery life! Best in class productivity performance and all day battery life.
Console= Literally PC regurgitated slop parts, junk sold to you at a premium price for less on every level. And GTA6 is exclusively chained to this last gen hardware, sold as current generation, instead of GTA6 releases first on PC… why Rockstar?…why…
Nintendo = If Switch 2 is simply backwards compatible with the Nintendo Switch, and NVIDIAs new GPU in partnership with Nintendo can FINALLY do the imperative, get Nintendo immedietly to 4K and DLSS supersampling, I will give Nintendo and NVIDIA all of my money for a VERY long time happily. Nintendo will then be the only console that matters. NVIDIA will dominate as per usual.
Always remember, If buying isn’t owning, piracy ain’t stealing.
Not a console hater at all I crave all the consoles, but PC is still the indestructible gaming overlord!
Love the MSI TItAN 18HX behemoth gaming laptop, MSI Claw is laughably awful compared to the OLED Steam Deck and the Z1 Extreme ASUS ROG Ally, superior handhelds for gaming by FAR.
PC ONLINE IS FILLED WITH CHEATERS HACKERS AND MODDERS ON A COMPLETELY UNEVEN PLAYING FIELD. 😂😂😂😂
2) THE DUAL SENSE IS BETTER THAN ANY CONTROLLER YOU'RE USING ON PC.
3) PC GAMES ARE UNOPTIMIZED GARBAGE AND CONSOLES WHEN EVERY AWARD FOR VISUALS GRAPHICS ART ANIMATION ETC EVERY YEAR.
4) YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
5) NAME ONE SINGLE GREAT PC EXCLUSIVE. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
5- PC ONLINE IS FILLED WITH CHEATERS HACKERS MODDERS AND A WILDLY UNEVEN PLAYING FIELD.
4. WHO GIVES AF. CONSOLE 1ST PARTY CONTROLLERS ARE THE BEST ON THE MARKET.
3. CONSOLE GAMES AREN'T ONLY OPTIMIZED, THEY WIN EVERY AWARD IMAGINABLE ACROSS THE BOARD EVERY YEAR.
2. CHEAPER HOW? $2K SYSTEM TO PLAY DIGITAL GAMES YOU DON'T OWN CAN'T SELL CAN'T TRADE IN.
1. MORE GAMES... GREAT... NAME 1 SINGLE GREAT PC EXCLUSIVE. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Those are absolutely horrible reasons. PC online is filled with cheats, the DUALSENSE is the best controller on the market. PS5 games are optimized. I mean WTF are you playing on PC that you weren't playing on consoles FFS?
i joined the PC in 2009 operating on a rebuilt compaq desktop to play the sims and total war series,.
built my two rigs, Nightmare and Hydra, in 2015 and 2020 respectively.
and now i have two AMD Ryzen 5 and 7 gaming laptops with 3000 cards
Nice
@@dinar8749 ty
I switched over to PC from PS4 back in late 2020, and I've enjoyed my experience so far.
I feel like this is kinda obvious. PC is naturally better, but it's also naturally more expensive. That has been the nature of gaming for ages.
i got into pc gaming when i got really heavy into games like witcher 3 and the mass effect series. It was more money to get into pc gaming but man thats probably the best decision ive ever made.Pc makes all the games ive played on console feel like brand new games.praise the omnissiah
I can think of only one thing I hate about PC gaming. As a PC gamer.
Before PC gaming, I never once considered touching my settings to adjust a games performance. I just went full default all the time.
Yes
I moved to PC in 2017. The only reason I have my Playstation 5 is because of Bloodborne and Demon's Souls. Even then I feel like I wasted my money even though I play them a lot. Although I do like the old retro consoles up through the original Xbox, GameCube, and PS2. They are fun novelties and can be cheap if you know where to look for deals or get lucky. If a game I want for one of those old systems is too expensive, I just emulate it. I could emulate everything, but original hardware just hits different for me since I grew up in that era of gaming.
finally someone said it
im so sick of the "its more expensive" argument when over time you pay way more on a console
good video, good talking points and well explained
You get what you pay for.
You’ll pay more on games through steam than what you would have through game pass. £1000 for a PC or £199 for a series S. not to mention Xbox has free online play for free online games so why would i fork out 5X as much for what is the same as an Xbox
@@Umb19 You can pirate for free on pc.
@@Umb19 You can get a way cheaper PC to match the performance of the serise s
How many PCs have u had?
Ask anyone who switched to PC from console and they'll all say i'm never going back
me + 2 of my friends agree with this comment.
I switched back to console, PC gaming just drained me.
@@ramspaypal6052 you couldn't handle the power of the dark side, foolish jedi
@@AaronWOfficial nah it sucks
@@ramspaypal6052 You never owned a PC, fanboy lie is obvious. If you did own a PC, you probably bought it from walmart like an idiot lol
you basically have a lifetime of games for free at your disposal on the PC side. Majority can run on low end.
Even now I’m playing a Pokémon rom hack (Pokémon Pathways if you’re wondering) on my computer.
That's whatsup man! I just got into RCPS3 so I can play some ps3 games. Cant wait.
There were benefits to having a console over a PC and now every single benefit the consoles had the PC now has while consoles no longer have.
Some console fanboy: BuT EXluCivEs.
i wouldnt call constantly tinkering with the graphics settings, RTSS, vsyncs, config files, etc... just to try to make games playable, a benefit. and not to mention your pc starts using up more and more memory overtime and slows down eventually, cos windows.
and its not like after all that tinkering you will have a smooth experience, bcos like i said, your pc keeps using more memory overtime so get ready to tinker eventually again.
@@ramspaypal6052 Nobody needs to tinker with pcs, and also we're just assuming you never need to tinker on consoles either. Joycon drift. Dualsense drift. Seems like a lot of tinkering to have to keep replacing your controllers that break every 1-2 years because the console makers want your money.
@@dinar8749 yeah, controller drift is equal to all of what i just said. sure.
I just got a pc and the only tinkering i need to do has been optional so far. @ramspaypal6052
As a PC-only guy for years now, I will say one thing I HATE - so many PC ports release broken & often never get fixed.
Like today, I was looking through JRPGs to try on Steam. I saw that Grandia 1&2 HD Remasters were there, and it's a series I've heard amazing things about, so I checked it out. Of course it was flooded with awful reviews, all talking about constant crashing, frame rate drops & how to switch to the old anniversary edition beta instead.
This game has been out for several years now, but the devs left it broken. A couple months ago I bought FFVII Remake, yet there was a constant camera stutter that made it painful to play. Had to go into the discussions & dig up work-arounds to finally fix it by launching in an older DX, which then brought up new screen tearing problems. Had to go into Nvidia control panel to fix that, but then the frame rate was dragged down.
And only reason I'm looking for new JRPGs is because Dragon's Dogma 2 launched in such a crap state, so I'm stuck doing something else until that's fixed!
It's maddening! Even though consoles versions can have problems too, it's nowhere near as frequent since devs target them as the priority & their PC ports are an afterthought.
At least pc has independent storefronts like steam that will tell you what most players think, instead of the switch eshop with no reviews. The problem is with the games you bought and the developers not optimising for pc and being lazy. Dragons dogma 2 especially.
That's not a pc problem, that's an AAA gaming publisher problem.
I really couldn’t care less about ports. We get so many excellent titles that console players won’t even be aware of and we generally get the best of whatever they’ve got on top of that.
@teddyjackson1902 You may be right, but PC also misses a lot of games or gets them much later. Recent ones that come to mind, Unicorn Overlord, FF7 Rebirth and the future Grand Theft Auto 6.
I mostly play RPGs, and all the biggest ones are available on consoles too. In the past few months, I've played:
Octopath Traveler 2
Baldur's Gate 3
Sea of Stars
Persona 3 Reload
Gran Blue Fantasy
And I wanted to play Dragon's Dogma 2, but there's no point when the performance is so bad. I played all these on PC, even sold my Switch last week, but it's annoying that this is an issue I feel we're always dealing with
I love the fact not only can you choose your hardware from loads of different options, but you can also choose multiple ways you can play the games.
But you can’t choose the fact that the ports will be shit and not tailored to your hardware.
Freedom is one of the most valuable things for me.
Having played PC Gaming since 2011, and being an IT tech, I can list off a few downsides of PC Gaming.
1 - Choice paralysis. There's so many choices on PC, it's often scary to people just getting in. It's an easy thing to overcome, but the initial shock is something to get over. What's an i5? What's a R7? What's DDR5? Stuff like this can and does confuse people. Which is why I hate when PC Gamers shun the purchase of pre-built PCs.
2 - Software woes. Updating a PC's software is nowhere close to as streamlined as a console. Consoles will just have a single loading screen. PC? graphics drivers, Steam Updates, OS updates, Discord updates. and while many of these are automated, some aren't, and sometimes things break after an update. It sucks when it happens, but eh.
3 - Cheating. One semi-nice thing about paying for online games is that it adds an extra layer of cost for cheating and being banned for it. Without that cost, the costs to cheating lowers. And since PC is open, downloading cheats is easier. Not to say cheating doesn't happen on console, you're an idiot if you think it doesn't, but it's easier on PC.
4 - Performance sapping softwares. If you truly want to use the biggest advantage of the PC platform, then you'll have software on your PC, that will lessen your performance a tad. Not much, unless you REALLY load up on background software, but every piece of software that runs in the background is wasted performance for games. This is the primary reason why "It's just another launcher" isn't a fucking valid defense for the EGS. It's another piece of software vying for CPU and RAM time... and maybe even GPU time if it's 3D accelerated.
Having typed all this, none of these degrade the experience enough to overcome the PC's greatest advantage. Flexibility and openness. Your PC is yours. Not Valve, Intel, Microsoft, Epic, Nvidia, AMD or anyone can tell you what you can and can't do with it. Don't like Microsoft? Install POP!OS and never deal with Microsoft again. Not a fan of Nvidia? AMD's got you. Not a fan of Valve? Guess what, EGS and GOG exists! PC is more than a gaming platform, it's your platform. So despite the 4 things I mentioned above, the PC's advantages FAR exceed those of the console's.
I agree prebuilt PCs should be more respected by pc gamers. Not everyone wants to customise everything. Sometimes simpler is better.
@@dinar8749not only that people come in at different entry points. I feel like consoles are like a Metallica or a slipknot that then makes you discover other alternative music that you would have never gotten into if it wasn’t for that one gateway band
as a PC gamer, i approved the message, BUT a reminder that consoles are needed for the industry to survive.
How so?
@@oystersoup3434 because even though PC playerbase is bigger than console, but console market generated more in revenue.
@@dewickedConsoles are not needed for the industry to survive. You forget that tons of indie games are founded and only playable on gaming PCs. The industry will survive without consoles. The only thing that might disappear for a while is gigantic AAA games. Though they'll return once devs see the potential profit from the PC Gaming audience.
In the country I live in, PC gaming is literally more expensive than console gaming in basically every single way. Not only are PCs and consoles double the price that they are in the PC (meaning a decent gaming PC is gonna cost you the equivalent of minimum $1800-$2000 USD), but games on Steam are nearly double the price that they are on Xbox and PlayStation, but specifically Xbox. Sony does raise the price of older first-party games every now and then but luckily MS hasn't done so yet.
The reason why games on Steam are so expensive is because Valve got rid of regional reduced pricing for most games recently and now forces everyone to pay using USD instead of regional currency.
Games that cost $60 on Steam cost like $45 on the Xbox store, while games that cost $5 on Steam cost about $0.25 cents on the Xbox store. So PC gaming is insanely expensive compared to console gaming; the benefits you get from PC gaming are just not worth the cost where I live.
What about GoG?
Sucks to hear. I believe they did that because people would use vpns to buy games in some countries for basically nothing and would then resell the keyes.
@@LukasJampen Yeah that's exactly why. Valve heard complaints from developers that people were getting their games for dirt cheap so they raised the prices of all games on the storefront back in September 2023. Which, frankly, was not the right move.
Instead of raising the prices for everyone, they could have just gotten rid of the ability to buy Steam game codes/keys in those regions to prevent people from buying games for dirt cheap and then reselling them on eBay or whatever. That's actually what MS did back in 2022. Instead of raising the prices of all Xbox games to match US pricing, they got rid of the ability to buy games as gifts (e.g. buy game codes) in certain countries like Argentina and Turkey. Sony doesn't let you buy game codes anyways, so that wasn't a problem to begin with; however PlayStation is being sued for having a monopoly of digital PlayStation game sales, so that might change if they lose the lawsuit.
@@Nycoorias GoG doesn't have regional pricing where I live (Turkey) and doesn't sell games in my country's currency, so they're just as pricy as Steam.
Ironically, despite it being the most hated storefront among PC gamers, Epic Games Store is by far the cheapest PC gaming storefront because they're currently the only ones that actually have reduced regional pricing in my country. That, and the Microsoft storefront but there's barely any games on Microsoft's own PC storefront.
A good example is Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade. On Steam, the game is just straight-up $70 USD. No regional reduced pricing whatsoever. Meanwhile, on Epic Games Store, FF7 Remake Intergrade is 699 liras, which is approximately $21 USD. It's on sale right now for the equivalent of $10 USD though.
There are some games on Steam that still have regional pricing (albeit in USD and not local currency), like Baldur's Gate 3, but they're few and far between. At full price, BG3 is $35 over here. But even that's technically higher than what it used to be because prior to the Steam price hike, you could get Baldur's Gate 3 for less than $20, so the price almost doubled.
So basically the only affordable way to buy games on PC where I live is through the Epic Games Store, but the EGS doesn't have like 70% of PC games anyways so what's the point of getting a PC here? You're better off just saving $700-1000 extra bucks and buying a console and paying for online if absolutely necessary. Because even with paying for online on consoles compared to online being free on PC, playing games on consoles is STILL cheaper compared to playing games on Steam due to the drastically higher prices.
Besides, Game Pass Ultimate which obviously includes online costs only around $6.50 USD a month, while Xbox Game Pass Core (a.k.a. Xbox Live Gold) costs $5 a month. Game Pass Ultimate is so cheap that there's literally no reason why you'd choose Xbox Live Gold or base console Game Pass over it, considering GPU is only $1.50 a month more expensive than all the other Game Pass tiers.
PS Plus on the other hand is somewhat more expensive, with PS Plus Essential costing around $5.40 USD a month (or $43 a year), PS Plus Extra costing about $8 a month (or $72 USD a year), and PS Plus Premium costing about $9.50 a month (or $85 USD a year).
While it is cheaper than in most other regions, paying for online is of course still a bit of a nuisance, but even that is cheaper than spending hundreds of dollars extra just to get a handful of games on PC compared to on Xbox or to a lesser extent on PlayStation.
I decided to dip my toe into PC gaming when I bought a Steam Deck about a year ago. I recently upgraded to a Legion Go because I wanted a little more performance.
At first, my XSX was my primary gaming device, but as time moved on and I began to understand and comprehend the highly customizable experience in the handheld PC gaming space, my Legion Go is now my go-to experience.
I've been looking into getting an egpu for my Legion Go so I can have the option to dock the device so I can completely replace my XSX. Having the option to game on the go and dock is pretty amazing.
I was never into desktop gaming PCs, but this recent boom of handheld PCs and the option to use an egpu to get better performance has completely changed my outlook on gaming as a whole.
Absolutely loving your videos, JoeFromSeattle.
is legion go really that good ? i want to splurge my money to buy one but im afraid its too heavy and some game compatibility issues
@@Bobori8989 The Legion Go is an amazing handheld PC, IMO. The only game I couldn't get running was Knights of the Old Republic, but that's because I didn't want to spend the time to research like I should have. I'm playing games from the early 90s to the current day and that was the ONLY game I didn't get working. Emulation is amazing as well.
The weight isn't really an issue for me. I mostly play sitting up or laying in bed, so I always have a pillow or something similar to rest it on. The kickstand on the back of the Legion Go really helps.
I had a Steam Deck LCD before the Legion Go, and the difference in performance is night and day. Also, docking the device to monitor and m&k is pretty straightforward and easy.
@@nighttilt convince me even more to buy legion go, i want to play my xbox game pass so steamdeck is no go for me, asus rog ally is a disaster and i waiting for their second generation asus rog ally x, but i think i’ll go with legion go. Thanks man
Think this logic ignores the mounds of games that were optimised for consoles over PC launched in 2023.
Other than that, it's accurate.
Edit: Actually... No, some of these opinions are poorly founded.
The price of brand new games stayed at 50 USD for how long? From around the mid 90s?
And whilst that happened, games have become more expensive to develop, regardless of platform?
Some of the points made are but in absolute terms, this is very similar to the iOS vs Android debate but earlier on in the smartphone cycle.
I have a demanding, full time job. It's nice to be able to just come home and boot into a game in seconds without worrying about drivers, GPU upgrades, multiple store fronts, etc...
My first console was the Xbox 360, that i got for free when my mum was a care worker with someone before she died of cancer
then i switched to a ps4 and now i recently sold my ps4 to put that money in for a GPU, i wanted to switch for a while; had a steam deck as a trial run to see if i would enjoy and i did. I cannot wait until i build it and i can finally ditch the low fps
Building the rig you want is one of the joys of PC gaming tbh. You could put together a great budget build scouring the internet for new/used components, you could literally make your case out of legos, or you could build the ultra rig of your dreams with cutting edge CPU/GPU/motherboard combos that will render anything you could imagine. I love putting them together.
UPDATE: just finished building it and OMG, my eyes hurt. ALL THE FPS I HAVE BEEN MISSING
@@NE-oj4beI’m glad you’re satisfied with that outcome.
Couple things. I highly encourage new comers or console people switching to PC to look in to pre-builts. Less stress due to everything being done for you and more room to worry about learning the way PCs work. With the idea that you actually eventually take the time to learn about the components. I switched back in November and bought a prebuilt. Would have been stressed trying to build from scratch.
Also id like to say the only real downside to PC gaming is getting things to work that just aren’t a issue on console. Things like old games just not launching and needing tk fiddle with PC settings.
Yes, the horror of having a settings-menu where you can get old games working.
Upside to consoles is that it doesn't allow you to run old games at all, so it's more handy to buy the "next gen" release and throw old games to trash.
I kinda like that i can play every PC game released in the past 30years + every console game up to 7th gen.
PC is my first gaming platform and I probably always stay here. I tried consoles, played some games on PS2 and a lot of on PSP (I feel old, it was over 10 years ago), but I never felt like it's something better for me. Mostly because well, most games I'm even interested in are on PC, and a lot of them are only on PC. I don't care about most of AAA titles, I mostly play cRPGs/jRPGs, singleplayer FPS and Visual Novels. Those three genres are pretty much mostly only on PC (maybe not jRPGs, but depends what you want).
The problem is the price and all the problems in programming, drives and OS…
On the console, it’s just turn on and start playing right away at the best possible way the consola can!!!
I was the same as all these console players coping. "The human eye cant see more than 1080p 60fps" I had Xbox and Nintendo growing up. I got into PC in 2019 and haven't gone back since. Its the ultimate platform for hardcore gamers.
I mean if they're right about that, wouldn't it mean that we who can see more than 60fps are then superhuman? They literally admit we are the PC Masterrace
Nah man pc gaming drained me i shifted to console. Pc gaming is just not fun. It's messy, expensive, needs a whole lot of knowledge and tinkering just to make games playable.
I'd play on pc only for the mods and that to only some games bcos it's not worth it.
@@ramspaypal6052 What do you mean? I've never had to tinker to make a game playable unless it's really old. (Which consoles can't even do at all)
@@LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus every game on pc is uncapped, and some even with no optimised settings. so in order to have a playable experience, even with an expensive rig you need to manually adjust the settings, cap the fps using RTSS and use the appropriate vsync option which is not available in most games so you probably need to use nvidia inspector to manually select the appropriate vsync for the fps and the refreshrate.
All this (or more) needs to be done on every game to have a playable
experience and it's assuming the game is properly optimised for pc.
Consoles don't need all that, they are just plug and play.
When you play Spiderman 2 on ps5 on a 120hz display in 30fps mode, it's using 1/4 vsync. Most people don't even know all this. On pc you would have to know all this and manually adjust it before starting to play the game.
Not to mention console games come with precompiled shaders so no shader compilation stutters on consoles unlike pc.
There's still a lot more reasons but I'll save them for later.
@@LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus
I'll tell you a simple example, assume you bought a 12 GB GPU which runs games better than the consoles now, for next gen gaming, and after a couple of years into the generation some games started using more vram than that, bcos of various reasons, maybe the game just needs more vram well at first you though the consoles are worse than your GPU but now, they run that game better than your 12gb GPU bcos they have unified memory. You see what happened? Now you have to upgrade even though your GPU does run some games better than the console.
That's just one example of how consoles gaming is better.
One detail you forgot about console curation in regards to games is that MS, Nintendo, and Sony will keep patches from going out as fast as they do on PC because the consoles feel the need to curate the patches as well for lack of a better word. Also I don't think you mentioned mods at all, and with Steam Workshop and the Vortex mod installer/manager from Nexus Mods it's not difficult to install them anymore.
Man, I really wish I wasn't poor
You can build one for about 300 bucks same performance as a ps5
Console is vibes, the most fun i have ever had on gsmes is in console party chats something i havent experienced since coming to pc
Pc gaming isn’t really all that. Honestly it’s mostly hype. Console is simplistic and that’s not bad thing if you prefer it
As someone who can afford to game on multiple platforms I don't see why I wouldn't. The Playstaion and Xbox don't really offer anything that my PC doesn't do much much better, but my switch oled is modular (more than steamdeck at least), portable and is the only way to play first party Nintendo games without emulating. Some of them are damn near screaming to be ran on better hardware, but most are fine. Meanwhile my New3dsXL offers a feature literally no other platform in history has offered (I think), which is stereoscopic 3d without glasses. A lot of people have said they didn't care for the 3d effect but I personally adore it and it sold me on buying a crap ton of used games these past couple years.
Which leads me to my final point, physical games. Both switch and 3ds offer physical game cartridges which can be traded or sold. I will admit this feature is overrated, as these days you can't really claim to own physical games anymore since they all require patches to play, and are often just keys for a download especially on the switch. But it is there, it is a reason to enjoy consoles.
Spec wise and cost benefit wise PC is objectively superior, but humans are not objective creatures. Nobody is wrong or stupid for having a subjective preference.
PC Gaming has always been the king. I used to jump between which of being a fanboy, PlayStation, Xbox... But i ended up in PC Gaming all the time. Always ended up in PC Gaming. "NooOOooOo but PC Gaming has cheaters, no exclusives!!!1!1!1" Mf bro what you tryna say? Not everything is about multiplayer gaming, not everyone wants to play exclusives. Not to mention exclusives are coming to PC now (both PlayStation & Xbox exclusives). In PC Gaming, you OWN your game, you don’t have to pay just to play multiplayer games separately, you don’t have to pay for a subscription to play games, you aren’t limited to only playing games or watching movies. You are able to do ANYTHING, work, study, income, personal services, personal programs, social media, edits, raw power and technical power, personal customizations and whatever else you want. THIS is FREEDOM. THIS is PC Gaming. Is it that hard to understand? It’s all about a single logical reasoning, FREEDOM.
King of what? Name a year PC gaming was superior to consoles with the games that year on PC. 😂😂😂😂😂
Valve literally just came out and said PC gamers don't own their games and cannot bequeath them to other people upon their demise. 😂😂😂
ever since minecraft and cs:go in 2011/2012, my path to PC gaming was set. There is nothing stopping me from doing everything i would ever want in gaming. There are literally a handful of new games i cannot play on PC, but hundreds of PC and classic games i cannot play on new consoles
Remember a gaming PC is a computer which means you can use it for school, work, photo editing, video editing, browsing the web, and so much more. Most importantly with a gaming PC you can always upgrade any part you like but with console you are stuck with what you get.
LMFAO.... PC GAMING IS DEAD. 😂😂😂
@@johnnylawrence7509fym “pc gaming is dead”? With console, you have to pay subscriptions to play online, and you have no upgradability and customization on parts. But with PC, you can do literally anything you want. You can run any game, you can run any app, and you can use a PC for just about anything. Also you can choose custom parts to put in a PC.
@@tandoesvrPSN destroys PC online. Have fun with cheaters hackers and modders in every room kid. Comes with 40+ games a year, Share Play, unlimited cloud storage, and deals and discounts. The amount of electricity you PC uses is way more than the cost of PSN. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@tandoesvr OH ... FYI
PC LOSES.... ANY YEAR. Every year.
PC: 0 Great exclusives.
Misses out on numerous GOTY winners every year.
Windows garage OS
Bugs, viruses, crashing.
Malware, shovelware, bottlenecking, troubleshooting.
No physical games.
No first party developers.
Horrible online plagued with cheaters hackers and modders.
Gimped unoptimized and late 3rd party ports.
Garbage / virtually non-existent local multiplayer.
Loses best graphics, art, animation, etc to consoles first party games yearly.
Gigantic, loud, energy consuming towers.
Hunched over desk and chair gaming on a small screen.
But yeah... Go ahead and name 1 single great pc exclusive. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Vs Consoles:
Numerous great exclusive games. First party titles.
Physical or digital games.
2nd party exclusives.
Optimized games.
Exclusive games that win Best Graphics, art, animation every year.
Superior online services.
Ease of use.
Small, quiet, energy conserving.
No bugs, viruses, malware, shovelware.
Blu-ray
Portability.
Constant innovation from d-pad, to analog, to motion controls to Dualsense.
If you're gaming on a PC it's because:
A. You are a child and your parents control what you play and what you play on.
B. You're a foreigner (not from the USA) and hate games based on American or Western culture.
C. You are poor and can't afford a luxury item like a console.
D. You are on the spectrum and enjoy repetitive point and click games.
E. All of the above.
😂😂
Oh, and you want to talk about visuals? Best looking games by year:
2023- Spider-Man 2 (Not on PC), Alan Wake 2.
2022- God of War Ragnorok (not on PC), Horizon Forbidden West (Not on PC), Eldin Ring.
2021- Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart (Not on PC).
2020- The Last of Us Part II ( Not on PC), Dreams (Not on PC).
2019- Death Standing (Not on PC), Control.
2018- God of War (Not on PC), Red Dead Redemption 2 (Not on PC).
2017- Horizon Zero Dawn (Not on PC).
2016- Uncharted 4 (Not on PC).
Should I go on? 😂😂😂😂
@@johnnylawrence7509 buddy. You have clearly NEVER used a PC before.
Another 1 pros for PC is you can do the overclocking of components like GPU , CPU and RAM to squeeze out the performance to the max.
Since you want peoplw to switch i would like it if you did like a beginners intro to pc gaming like what to look for etc i need that in my life because I'm convinced im ready to make the full jump to pc
You can buy prebuilt gaming pcs from normal online retailers, or you can try building your own. For parts, basically; modern cpus are intel core i7/amd ryzen 7 3700X, modern gpus are nvidea geforce RTX/AMD Radeon RX 6600XT, ram should be about 16GB, for storage you'll need either an SSD or an HDD (SSDs are better but more expensive), win11 OS.
You're looking at around $1100, basically double a ps5's price.
@@dinar8749 Bruh your information is completely out of date. Take for example my pc which has a ryzen 5 5600x (better than the 3700x and newer) and my gpu is the rx 7900 GRE. This performance is double the ps5s while being much cheaper than the pc you're suggesting. And even then the pc you're suggesting has old outdated parts which would cost like 500.
@@yacquubfarah6038 I was not aware of this. Thank you for the information.
ps: I have a ryzen 5 5700x ;)
Consoles obviously have an incentive to 'raise the bar' as they are competing with each other for your money
Literally the only benefit to console that I can think of is physical media. And even that is dying.
tbh honest I switched partially because my library is mostly digital on pc. I was running out of room for the games and if the discs ever got scratched that was it.
The physical media argument doesn't apply to most games anyway. In the era of day 1 patches and most discs being just a download and play key, the disc is a less convenient way of playing a digital download of a game. There are only a handful of games that ship with the full games on disc/cartridge nowadays. Even then, those versions are always going to be inferior to the patched versions of the game that most people will play.
Physical media is almost completely dead anyways.
@@hydrophobia936 Physical media could've been saved if each physical disc gave you a separate digital copy as soon as you inserted them, but that would be too pro-consumer.
Physical games for the last 3 generations are just licenses for the digital versions, it's just a placebo
the only thing i don’t like about pc is the hackers . almost every online has a exploit for players that suck at the game
Imagine a world where gaming is as simple as pie, where the biggest dilemma is choosing between pizza or nachos, not configuring graphics settings. That’s the console universe for you!
Ease of Use: Consoles are like the trusty old toaster; you pop in the game and voila, it works! No need to worry about driver updates or compatibility issues. It’s plug-and-play at its finest.
Cost-Effectiveness: With consoles, you get a full gaming setup without breaking the bank. PCs, on the other hand, can cost an arm, a leg, and maybe a kidney if you’re aiming for those high-end specs.
Exclusives: Console gamers have access to a treasure trove of exclusive titles. It’s like being part of an elite club where the secret handshake is knowing the latest ‘God of War’ plot twist.
Couch Comfort: Consoles are the kings of the living room. There’s nothing like lounging on the sofa with a controller in hand, as opposed to hunching over a desk like you’re plotting world domination.
Social Harmony: Consoles bring people together. Sharing a couch and screen fosters camaraderie, unlike PC gaming, where you might need to send a search party to find your friend in their headphone-and-mic fortress.
No Upgrade Anxiety: Console gamers sleep well at night, free from the fear of their system becoming obsolete. PC gamers? They’re haunted by the ghost of GPUs past, present, and future.
Came here to say this. I'm a PC gamer, but nothing beats the ease of use of a console. I guess that if more people even try a last gen console, they would be able to form a more informed decision... yes PC gaming is awesome, but also complex, fragmented, for a pirate it may be easier but I buy my games, and it's really not very nice using 564.930 different launchers.
@@RicardoCarvalhoPT I tried it briefly a few years back. Granted the games were great, I experimented with a few mods and VR but I put a lot more money into it than I normally would have as a casual gamer so I just went back to consoles.
I agree except for the exclusives and social harmony part
Satire? I was about to reply with counter-arguments after seeing the first two, but some of these are so ridiculous that I can't tell whether you're being serious or not
If you just want to game, console bodies PC always.
If you want to play a game and not spreadsheet create or make a negative clickbait YT video for dullards in an echochamber shitting in their own fishbowl... there is nothing is better than coming home, sitting on a big ol couch, grabbing a controller and turn it on and off ya go. Have my doggie and girlfriend next to me. Use a massive 75 inch OLED TV and 5.1 Atmos surround sound. It's like a theater experience. Recline back and enjoy gaming. Without all the rainbow light strips going of like a rave.
For PC gaming I'd have to come home, sit in an adult car seat at a desk with a huge tower rainbow RGB PC, enter my code/password, listen to coil wine and 17 fans crank on, turn on my small monitor, turn on speakers, find the gaming launcher I have to use or select one of the hundred shortcuts on the desktop, wait for the launcher/game to eventually boot up, wait for updates, driver updates, tweak settings, wait for Shaders AGAIN, turn on my controller if I want to use it, slide my mouse/keyboard aside and don't bump it because the cursor will change controls, or use the mouse/keyboard leaning over the desk like Igor, if I want to play something else I'll have to quit the game and change launchers for a different one, wait for Shaders AGAIN... yeah, no thanks.
You PCMR nerds can have all that for extra frames at a much higher price and lonely uncomfortable set ups. PC gamers are the kids at school who sat in the classroom doing more schoolwork than going to the playground to play with other kids then telling those kids they're wrong for just wanting to have fun. SDE all the time with these videos.
Feels kinda ironic, that why you're always criticizing the console wars and how stupid it is. Your just doing the same thing but with PC. Hypocrisy is a real disease.
"oh the pc superiority" man, all is equally stupid.
I just came here to say
Physical discs.
Now go wipe your tears with dollar bills when your games get taken away from you
Discs are download licenses, you cant play little big planet because its gone
Piracy is amazing, free games
Emulation is great, nintendo, ps3 and some more games can be emulated
Steam discounts are insane
Modding is amazing
This is why im saving up for a good pc
Awesome vid. Agree 100% I was a lifelong Xbox person and recently switched to pc. I was quite confused about the hardware aspect when I was first getting into it so decided to get a steam deck. BEST PURCHASE EVER. I have learned so much about hardware to prepare me for building my first pc. On top of that
- no monthly subscriptions
- way cheaper games (often always marked down 70-90%). Literally buying my whole Xbox library again for 5$ here, 3$ there.
- you can use a controller. ANY controller - even Wii remotes
- you can play ANY game from ANY console
- you have a fully functioning desktop computer to do any work you may need to. Video editing, word docs, etc
- you can play LAN games still (I remember around the time I switched to pc Minecraft wouldn’t let us play LAN because I didn’t have a Xbox live subscription)
- there is room for upgrades. Even on my steam deck, which is quite minimal as far as pcs go, I can do upgrades to the hardware
I knew it was the end for console gaming for me when I got my Xbox one, installed my first game, and learned I had to put the disc in to play it still (even tho it’s installed). Then upon starting the game I learned that I need an Xbox live subscription or I can’t even play my new single player game.
I have a couple friends who still play on console and have asked them why. They have no reason so I typically feel like most console gamers go console for the brand imprinting on their minds. It’s like how people still think apple is good and will defend it with their lives even though they have no reasoning as to how it does better than the competition.
got a pc back in 2020 and now i'll never go back to the console then in 2023 i decided to upgrade to a high end pc and now consoles are truly dead to me 😂
I started my PC gaming life straight after the xbox one was announced and released in 2013. I started with a medium to high end build (i7 4770k and gtx 770)
I played at 1080p 60hz truly for the first time. the xbox 360 was a 720p machine which high school me didn't understand. I discovered mods for fallout new vegas. I found I could play all my old ps2 games again. I got 2, then 3 monitors. I slowly got into the keyboard hobby and audio with things like discrete DAC's and amps. I upgraded and eventually built my own full pc tower.
I got so deep into it I forgot consoles existed almost. Recently I tried my friends ps5. I played forbidden west on a 4k HDR10 120hz tv... and the framerate was terrible. sure, you could put it on performance mode" but even for visuals it felt unplayable. I'd hate to spend $600(AUD) on a PS5 for it to run games like that. It feels like a home entertainment system with gaming as an afterthought.
Console gamers will never experience triple wide, or even ultrawide for that matter. The true feeling of multi tasking. Also gaming PC's are just powerful computers in general which opens hobbies like 3d rendering, CAD programs, art and more.
Also as I've seen from a lot of your videos, console gamers don't realize the awesome Truley exclusive games on PC.
- Guild Wars 2 (or any mmo for that matter)
- Scooterflow and other low budget sports games that are filled with passion.
- modded assetto corsa and other games that may have a vanilla experience on console but the community has completely reforged on PC
- super competitive games liek CS, LoL, DotA, Starcraft, Valorant etc.
The way you can slowly turn your PC into the gaming machine of YOUR dreams is amazing. Everyone's PC is different and is made for them.
I'm passionate about my PC, not a company, not even a brand of part for my PC, but of the idea that is my PC.
Both have their pros and cons.. i personally prefer consoles... but there is now best for everyone... not everyone wants to game on pc same as not everyone wants a console.. just let people game however they wish
I hate this "tHeY bOtH hAvE tHeIr OwN pRoS aNd CoNs" BS. Standards are important. If everyone believed in this educational preschooler show BS, then we'd still be playing Pong. Either contribute to the discussion, or piss off
I am switching the other way. Been PC gaming since my first pc, a 386 with a giant 850 Mb hard drive running windows three and all games were played on DOS
In what year has PC ever been better than console?
In what country has PC ever been better than consoles?
What are you playing on PC that's better than consoles best games?
What are you playing on PC that's looks better than consoles best games?
in terms of hardware, it would usually take a fairly strong(and expensive) PC to get the performance of a console at the start of a generation. but torwards the end of it, the fact that the studios need to develop something that runs ok on the consoles starts to show and the components needed to upgrade a boring office box into something capable of gaming usually don't cost much. its why minimum requirements for games bearly change until some time after a new console comes out. but than there is the backwards compatibility, emulation and the fact that PCs can come in any formfactor you want. there is also a fair bit of free games that will run on fairly weak PCs so unless someone wants to play AAA games, PC might just be cheaper. if someone wants a game both on their PS5 and their Nintendo Switch, they would have to buy it twice and start from scratch. if someone owns a laptop/handheld(gaming PC), they can play a game on the go and than switch to their desktop for better graphics when they get home and want to play it on the big screen. not to mention expanding the storage is quite cheap on the PC.
If you hate Windows 10/11 like me, try Linux.
Linux Mint, PopOS and KDE Neon are all worth a look.
Nearly every Steam game runs perfectly on Linux nowadays, because of the Proton compatibility layer.
Unless the game has anti-cheat, or the developer just has a weird vendetta against Linux (Bungie). I briefly considered switching to Linux before finding out that GPU drivers are usually several versions behind Windows (because AMD and NVIDIA don't prioritize Linux) and many developers are vehemently against Linux for some weird reason.
@@qu1253Yeah, a bit strange.
Yes, Linux anti-cheat is not enabled on all multi-player games, but I don't play multi-player games. I've never had any driver issues. I despise Windows, and the privacy, versatility and variety of Linux is unmatched. I'll never go back to Windows. @@qu1253
The distro I used for a bit was garuda, which I thing is bast on arch (don't quote me on that).
It has a differant aproch then most distros, garuda has a somewhat maximalist aproch.
This means that it is more hardware intensive then most distros (should still be less then windows thou) and it is a bit bloated with programs that you probably won't use.
But having a distros that has a everything you could want preinstalled could be useful for newcomers.
Plus, it's UI is FUNKY!
Funky? Hell, yeah.
Linux is as Funky or as Vanilla as you want. You got choice with Linux.@@Nycoorias
Emulating a ps2 is so simple that quite affordable hardware can run near any game
Hardware is
Intel Core I5 2500k
AMD R5 340x
8GB DDR3 Ram
Put those in a small form factor office pc and your good to go, and well, get a ssd
Why do we still have this discussion. Let people play what they want on what they want
Yeah. I thought Joe was unbiased until he said you shouldn’t even consider playing on console at all. He became the very thing he swore to destroy
@kroxo7158 "Let peeps get scammed so the overall gaming industry can suffer in the future"
Because standards are important. Stop with the educational preschooler show BS, and get out if you don't want to contribute to the discussion
@@ZuluZizoconsoles aren’t scams lmao there are reasons to get one Over a pc
@@ItzLoneGlazerProductions Yes thye are, and no, there is not.
Try list 1?
That's not true. The PC has nothing that can compete with the raw power in the PS5's magical SSD. Checkmate! 😂
Ohh yeah we always forget that ps5 has a magic ssd
Lol that "Magic SSD" comes from computer hardware tho 🤣
You call out Fanboys but you're 100% being a fanboy
@natejoe9924 [points out facts] "Fanboy" lul
1:42 - Those arguments are exactly the same for the Apple vs Android debate.
hey whoa this is awkward being the first one for a change...
anyways guys whats your favorite gaming platform? mines pc and switch lite.
also whats your favorite gaming genres? mine are rpgs, survival, creature collection, sandbox and farming sims.
I play almost exclusively on the pc these days. My main game is RuneScape, but I love RPGs and cozy farm sims :)
Love my hacked 3DS, I have 3 console generations of games on it I still take it everywhere
And my PC obviously
Swapped a year ago,don’t regret it
Gaming on PC is literally the pain ... games always crash because of drivers of hardware of overclocking gpu even from factory overclocking from bad graphics setting in the game its crazy to buy 1000€ gpu and then u must undervolt it because of high temps and vents go crazy like turbine or underclock it because of game crashing due to overclocking its crazy really PC case is gigantic extremely noisy and im not mentioning coil whine which is extremely annoying during gameplay I really spend much more hours with solving the problems with Pc than with playing games and console is small quite box u dont even know there it is where u just put disc or play from hdd with no problems literally in seconds
I agree, pc gaming is not fun. You need a whole lot of knowledge and tinkering just to make games playable and even then there might be issues.
Nah I have a pc I've built from the ground up and it runs every game no problem. As long as you do your research and you select quality parts you will not have issues. I have an mATX pc which is smaller than a full tower and its quiet and cool not getting over 65c on my cpu or gpu. You don't have to overclock or underclock anything I keep my pc at stock settings.
@@ramspaypal6052 Unless you're very lazy pc gaming is easy and its the ultimate platform.
@@yacquubfarah6038 RTSS, nvidia inspector, bottlenecks, shader compilation stutters, i have suffered through pc gaming enough to say its very tedious and not cheap.
@@ramspaypal6052 if you suffered from bottlenecks that’s your own mistake. You should have researched more in order to get the best configuration for your needs.
Always been a console guy and respect and know PC is the ultimate way to play games. That’s why I got myself a steam deck to play classics. Steam deck is perfect. I prefer handheld why I’m on switch as well. Ps5 for online with friends or some exclusives. Very few worth buying now.
Agree to disagree, I had a pc. Personally, I’m not a hardcore gamer or anything like that. I like to kick back on the couch, turn on the ps5 and play a game. Plus all my friends are on console, it’s easier .
Even if you’re not a hard-core gamer, the PC is a better gaming platform by virtue of the fact that you can do every productivity workload on it at the same time. Consoles are for gaming. PC is for everything.
@@iLegionaire3755 if console is for gaming then wouldn't that make it the better gaming platform?
@@ramspaypal6052 No because you get more freedom with a pc and usually better performance.
@@yacquubfarah6038 it's not plug and play, and console equivalent pc specs do not give better performance.
@@yacquubfarah6038 also watch sackboy pc on digital foundry
I started with PC gaming back in gaming ancient times, i tried a PS4 several years ago and gave up pretty quickly.
Consoles are better at gaming bcos
1. Devs can optimize the game in ways that are not possible on pc
2. Consoles come with pre compiled shaders so no shader compilation stutter and also faster loading bcos of it.
3. They have unified memory
4. No need to set up graphics settings, framecaps, and figure out the appropriate vsync for the monitor and the game and what not.
5. It's cheaper
6. And ofcourse, no need to build it.
I recently upgraded my pc and have ‘made the jump’ to pc.
To me, there’s pros and cons. The system is more expensive up front. Even a modest system, comparable to a Series S is probably £600.
If you can afford a decent system though, the possibilities are endless. I’ve got an upper mid tier pc, and it wipes the floor with my PS5.
Since Sony started releasing exclusives onto PC, there is no need for me to own a PS5 anymore. I use the pc for my ‘proper gaming’ and my series S to play on my couch when I want to sit in my living room. Game pass ultimate really is a god send for that.
The thing is, I love the idea of PC gaming. But I hate the toxic people of PC gaming that drives console gamers away from PC gaming. I mean, when I hear PC gamers call themselves the PC master race, it just make me feel bad, like I'm being looked down on for being a console player. So, this breeds hatred against PC gaming and paints both PC gamers and console gamers in a bad light. I hope you understand what I mean.
I think you're being too presumptuous of what the PC gaming community is actually like. The whole Master Race thing is more of a joke used against console gamers who don't know much about PC gaming in general.
If anything the Xbox vs Playstation "hatred" is way bigger than PC vs Consoles.
Most communities have some toxic people in them but mostly they are always happy to help.
pc gaming changed my life
You are 100% a PC Fanboy just like PlayStation fanboys you are in that same category sorry to tell you
Join the PC master race, Nate. You know you want to.
Join us, Nate. Build your own pc and ascend.
@@yacquubfarah6038 I'm okay I don't have to build a PC I don't have to do nothing like that I can just play on my console so get up and do my updates
@@teddyjackson1902 the only thing I really liked about PC you get mods and you get to play free online which I don't even really play online anyways so it doesn't matter only play online once in awhile I mostly play single player games
@@yacquubfarah6038 yeah PC is more powerful but it's more expensive and they got to find videos on how to build and then you got to check requirements for games it's a lot of hassle there's a lot of downsides to PCS yes they're more powerful but you got to do so much crap that's not even worth it
In my opinion, its perfect to have a souped-up pc and a switch for couch gaming, game collecting, and playing all of those amazing exclusives like Pokémon and legend of Zelda. Anyone else agree with me?
Seems smug to me. I know it's better but why you gotta shame people
EXACTLY! He has good points that I mostly agree with, but what really soured my taste was his blatant fanboying
I can't sustain the electric bill of a high end gaming PC anymore, but I'm happy to be able to play some switch emulated games on an 10 year desktop APU and some older PC titles on steam Proton, since I won't be upgrading to Windows11 and will stay on Linux now.
I tried PS3&Wii console gen but buying games, controllers and accessories was very costly at least the good thing about those controllers is I can still use them on my current PC.
My PC has cost far less than a console due to the savings made on game purchases and not having to buy a new controller every few months. Ive got more free games via the Epic store than there are in the whole PS catalogue.
Pc last more then one general as well.
Was gonna say Joe after all these videos I never seen a video like this and as usual this was a good one 👍
A like isnt enough for this explanation. I could never have said it better.
PC is a god’s gift. I can play gta 4, fallout new Vegas, dragons dogma dark arisen and all the games that had no current gen re-release or 4k60fps upgrade and all the emulators under the basking sun. Also, the only “good thing” about the consoles and it’s a subjective thing is the physical media for the sake of collecting and having nice shelves with all the video games you own and that if you own the disc, then the game is all yours with no surprise delistings and no sudden library removals like Sony did with the National Geographic stuff
One thing I find to be intersting, is that, in the recent years, games on PC are selling much better than Consoles, when comparing recent games that was released to every platform, PC is pretty much always wining, the Wither 3, Star Wats Fallen Order, Elden Ring, they all sold more on PC, and even games like Red Dead 2, got to the double of players in less time compared to consoles.
black Myth: Wukong recently released, right now it sold 4 milions, and 3 milions is only on PC.
So that's pretty interesting, seems like PC is slowly becoming the more popular place to play game, is that going to continue? I don't know, but it is pretty cool to see how far PC has come.
"In the long PC gaming is cheaper" may have been true in the past, but really I think that's not true anymore. Hardware has gotten a lot more expensive, the price/price jump at the low to mid range every generation is becoming non existant, the pricing floor keeps getting raised, depending on how often you buy games and whether you go the physical route for console (therefore allowing you to sell games when finished to reduce the effecive cost), it's going to take a long time for the PC to become cheaper. And PC has a couple of subjective disadvantages that have always been there. First of all is that the cheaper price of games and sales tends to cause people to overbuy games that they don't need. When you are paying £50-£60 on a game, you really take time to consider whether you want it and are going to play it soon. When everything is on sale, you end up spending a lot more, on paper you got more value, but that value is not real if you don't actually play the games you bought. And to make PC gaming cheaper you also have to have a lot of self discipline to not upgrade your PC despite the marketing and internet hype around new hardware, it's designed to make you feel behind the curve and always be looking towards the next purchase. Admittely this is all subjective and there is going be people that read this comment that just say "I rarely upgrade and I don't have a backlog, I only buy games I will play". That's good for you, but the point still stands. PC gaming is a money sink, even when it doesn't need to be.
I love being able to use whatever the hell controller I want. My PC is in my living room. It's my media center. Plus, PC has sex and hentai games. Never gonna be on console.
Even building a pc is more addicted than playing a game 👀