FATTEN YOUR MIXED VOICE
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2023
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HVT Vocal Coach, Eli Prinsen demonstrates The Mixed Voice (also known as Middle Voice and shows how to train this mixed vocal register. How to thicken the mixed voice and make it sound as legit as a true chest register belt.
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Danke!
Thank you very much! You are the first Super Thanks for my channel. I sincerely appreciate it!
It takes a lot of courage to do vocal exercise when you're neighbors and other people are around.
Which is also great practice for eventually singing in front of others.🙂
It takes greater courage to do vocal exercise when you're getting speeding ticket and then vocal exercise in front of judge for failure to pay speeding tickets 😞
I asked my neighbours if they are at all bothered by my singing (and other music), especially as they now have a newborn. They were not worried at all by it. In fact, I got the impression that they don't really hear me practising even though I can get pretty loud (opera singer loud - which happened unlooked for after about three years of varied classical and CCM training).
In a 1 hour session, he erased the last 2 yrs of wrong practice. He's worth every cent people. I wish I could afford him 😊
Oh my goodness, best demo ever.
Thank you 🙏
The best mixed voice exercise ever. You've compressed my previous voice teacher's exercises from half hour down to seconds.
Wow, thank you! Keep it up!
You have great material, clarity and confidence. Good for everybody! Thank you!
Thank you!🙏
Great stuff!! Thank you!!!
Thanks AJ!
Excellent video, right to the point. Thank you!
Thanks 🙏 Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks Eli.
You’re very welcome!
Omg, thankyou so much sir.
You’re very welcome!😊
I tried this years ago and got "mixed" results (pun intended). I literally had to hit my mid 30s before my throat matured enough to do this kind of thing without burning out my vocal chords. Base baritones the evil G is "daylight" or whatever Green Day does.
The evil G! 😂😂😂
Hello Eli! I see you from Argentina❤
Welcome!
Many thanks for the video and advice. From what I understand, you are giving good suggestions here.
I can do the 'mix' and do the sirens just like you do in the video, but at the moment my upper range is still 'flutey' and unuseable for my singing.
I'll keep going.
Thanks, I'll do my best to continue to post more useful tips.
Great teacher
As a lower range singer (voice break is around D4 to E4, first D/E above middle C, or around the high E string on a guitar), I was surprised to discover that using a little of what some ppl call "the mask" (ie, the nasopharynx) changes my head voice from sounding like Mickey Mouse (flutely & breathy) into something similar to Sting's tone on the original recording of Roxanne. In fact, imitating his tone on that song is how I became more confident in using my head voice with a slight to moderate amount of "mask" quality. It's taken a lot of practice to produce that tone with all the usual vowels (EE, AY, AH, OH, OO), and it still has a long way to go to be consistent for when I'm singing below & above my break
Is the tone suitable for all songs types in that vocal range? Of course not, but it's way more than before & and I'm deeply grateful to have learned it
Oh, and you naturally use your nasopharynx/"mask" when imitating a car honk, cat meow, baby's cry, wah-wah pedal, and Peter Griffin's voice. You can engage your "mask" in both chest & head registers, and exercises like the "bratty nay" or Danny Richard's Baritone vocal exercises album where what first showed me how to actually do it at 100% engagement, which sounded very cartoonish. I remember spending at least 20 minutes laying on my back just trying to sing the note at my vocal break while playing around with my "mask" until I got a tone and resonance I'd never experienced before
I share all this in the hopes that you or others might stumble onto what your voice is capable of and enjoy the process of developing it 🤞
A lot of Bel Canto instructors especially the older generation trained in Europe refer to it as the nasal notes or Head Voice. Honestly it is just M2 but tries to mimic the quality of chest. I just wanted to clarify this to explain why you heard some people refering to this as head voice.
Yes, there are 101 different ways to describe registrations.
I’ve done this glissando a lot lately
I've been working this part of my range for a bit. Problem is, I hate vocal exercises... BORING! So, I search for singers who utilize the portion of my range I need to work on. For this part of my Mix range it's currently Myles Kennedy, which is beastly for a Bass such as myself. 👍🏽🤘🏽
Thanx for posting this, Eli. It showed that I'm doing it right. 😎
Right on, Sean!
Saying Vocal exercises are 'Boring' is like a Body-builder saying that working out in the Gym is 'Boring'.
You'll only get out what you are prepared to put in.
Vocal exercise are the KEY to excellent control of your voice. I also do not want to take the time so I have to remind myself every time, that I will have NO FEAR reaching notes that not many singers can do. You have to dedicate yourself to WANTING an excellent voice...with control, Sean. PLUS at 73 I can still belt and blow people away without scratchiness. I also have wind power. You also get that too with vocal work. He is spot on! Don't go pompous and think you don't need that time. Arrogance will kill your chance to be another Steve Perry and other great singers.
You've gotten some flack for this comment but I'm going to back you. If you make TARGETED selections of passages of songs that work on the skill that you're trying to refine, it's a vocal exercise set to music.
To borrow the gym metaphor, it's getting off a treadmill and into a Zumba class.
@@emkstr I guess what I didn't say was, I'm not just merrily singing along to my favorite tunes. I'm pushing myself with singers that are out of my league.
Singing along with Tim Foust of Home Free has extended my range from Eb2 to Bb1. Singing with Myles Kennedy of Alter Bridge has taught me how to access my Mix Voice and extended that range from C4 to Bb4.
Singing with Chris Cornell and Geoff Tate has maintained my Head Range up to A5.
Yes, I do proper warm-ups and cool-downs; and then I'm singing with power such that my car stereo can barely keep up. I've since had my vocal cords checked by an ENT and given a clean bill of health. So, it's clearly working and isn't doing damage. What more can one ask?
Decided to check out this program recently and this is one of the things I was looking for that ive been sttruggling a lot. I can pull up chest up to an A#4 but I can mix up to a D#5 . i know this because i've achieved it several times. But every time I try to actually sing something that high, mixing up to the B4-C5 area is always hit or miss. It doesnt sound like faalsetto but it definitley feels disconnected from my chest voice. It always sounds weak heady and splattered and i've tried everything. From going softly to attacking very hard, opening my mouth, narrowing my mouth vertically,horizontally, placing it in the back, placing it forward, palette raised, with twang, squeezed, lighlty, with cry, etc and sometimes i will accidentally get what im looking for every once in a while, before losing the coordination. Hopefully this will help
This definitely helps to dial things in.
I know exactly how you feel. I’m going to practice this.
I use to be the same way, my chest voice use to go up to a B4. And my mixed voice could go up to a E5. But I kept practicing and the highest I've went(so far) in my mixed voice was a C#6! So keep inspiring urself by practicing and thinking of all the goals.
Can you make a video about the Ee or 'i' vowel please thank you!!
Absolutely!
You’ve got lots of resonance in your voice, all the sirens in the world will not develop resonance, I wish it was that easy, it would help me no end! you’ll see what I mean from my song ‘grim reaper’ soft head voice
When I started, I had zero resonance due to horrible speech habits. There is hope! :)
I can get through my registers without a break and comfortably but my middle voice isn’t nearly as loud as yours and the color change is a bit more noticeable….. how to improve this kinda light mix sound into a more full mix
There are a few training factors involved. A little range extension of each register, looking ahead a bit and utilizing timing and modes, split vowel / placement modification and re modification. Focusing in on the shape of the registration, the path of resonance and so on and so forth. It sounds like a lot but it's really easy after a bit of training. It's Hybrid Vocal Technique.
Im inspired by rob halford so this video was very informative to me
Rob Halford is one of my main vocal influences. Thanks for the comment!
Interesting topic. Will put in watchlists for sure. I’m a bit confused though, so if this mix is the middle, then those who like to sing in their mix/middle should just pick a key that is near that zone, is my understanding correct? For example I have a song that I sing chesty at F4 and below, and purely head tone F5 and up, so it means I will adjust song key near C5 zone? Thanks!
Actually it’s just training to sing smoothly throughout the entire range.
hi eli - great advice. when i do this exercise in the range that you do it, my voice sounds very scratchy, like a mottorbike almost, have you any advice? should i keep on trying each day and see gradual improvement>
Key in on the resonance. Focus on the vibration and blending sensation in the forehead. Keep the support even.
Hi, I'm a leggero tenor my second bridge is A4 when I sing A#4 to F5 I'm always out of breath quickly, so how can I fix this issue? By the way sorry for my poor English I hope I expressed myself to you.
In HVT we use a very natural form of diaphragmatic breathing. We also use utilize a breath stop and focus on natural expansion of the ribcage with controlled exhalation. The management of the breath is one of our foundations.
Hey there, so i am a baritone who has always believed in that’s damned curse, and as I’ve gotten older, 54, my high notes have gone with the dodo bird. So how do I contact you to see about taking private lessons?
Just emailed you.
Hey Eli, is your 'Ultimate Mixed Voice Program' the one to get to fatten up my mix?
Yes, it helps to discover and work the mixed voice.
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Thanks Eli, just bought it now. Looking forward to it!
How much water do you drink / warming up do you to to be able to do this flawlessly?
and are you SURE you're a baritone LOL your voice may be super rich, but I talk at about a very similar pitch range as you do
Loved this, by the way : )
I used to be a baritone too, but now, after a few years of lessons with Eli, I'm a high tenor. 😁
I start drinking water as soon as I wake up and continue to do so until I pee clear!
I have a few different warmups (Long and short) One for flexibility and the other for both flexibility and pitch accuracy.
My speaking voice sounds a bit higher than it did before I started training because I had terrible speech habits (placed in the throat and chest, monotone and actually hindering good singing technique. My coach helped me to fix this and in return, I was able to better understand the voice and actually get the results I was looking for out of my training. The good thing is that I didn't lose the low range, I actually increased it dramatically.
@@capturedquestsmusicstories7788 Do you have before and after videos of you singing with baritone and high tenor voice?
0:41 Therms, an old problem... I think that never will be a worldwide unified vocal method, back in the 90's not even what we call "head voice" was called "head voice" for lots of people, if u include Bel Canto... The "head voice" was just the placement of the resonance in the cavities of the head, and they used to call "reinforced falsetto" what we call "head voice" today... it's really complicated...
Yep, so many terms to describe things. As long as our students understand what we’re talking about 🤘
What about the volume? Loudness, does it sound very loud or is it more like a 5 in a scale of 1 to 10?
The volume depends on your skill level with dynamic control. Keeping it at 5 and letting your mic and PA do their jobs is best.
I have a question for you Eli when you get a chance about your program . Thank you
Shoot
I think I figured it out thank you. I do have a question though and don’t know if I’ve seen anyone do a video on it. I know when I sing in chest I push like singing out, as we go up in registry between mix and head we are supposed to almost pull it back in instead of push like we do in chest? No one seems to explain the feeling of not pushing as hard, I’ve played many shows and sang 4+ hour shows as country singer, but trying to turn into rock more and I’ve yet to hear an explanation that clicks. Amy certain spot in the program I should look?
I have one quick question, my mixed voice and high mixed is good that's where I sound my best but my fourth octave is pretty bad like sometimes I go flat or I'm straining but in the fourth octave I can support from A4-B4 but everything below that is flat and/or tensed. Anyway to help with this?
Support is not reserved only for A4-B4, so make sure that is not a factor. Also, pay attention to the timbre in the earlier notes of the 4th octave, the sound needs to thin as it ascends.
@@EliPrinsensHVTVocals Oh okay thank you!
Amazing video but I don't understand 1 thing : u said u r baryton and then you belted right up to the Bb at 5:03 how is that possible?
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Sure, I can sing higher in mix or head voice but I can't add distortion to either unless I want to sound like Edith Bunker being attacked. heheh Why can't I just get surgery and give myself a 7 semitone jump in range????
Hahahaha 😂😂😂
@@EliPrinsensHVTVocals i'm serious! OOOH, AAAWCHIE! YAAAAAAAAA! Stifle yaself, will ya Editt???
Oh man! You’re killing me!😂😂😂😂😂
@@EliPrinsensHVTVocals And you, Meathead, what are you doin' ovuh deah, huh? You sound like a dying water buffalo. He's practicing his middle voice, Awchie. Editt..... will you and dat meathead just stick a sock in it already??? DADDY! hehe man... I guess I saw a few of those in my day.
should i place resonance to the pharyngeal and nose area
Think and focus the vibration/placement higher in the skull. Above the actual source of origination (the larynx). Vibrations may be felt in the soft palate, the forehead, the top of the head, inside the head and behind the head. You may also feel the vibrations along the cheekbones and between the eyes. Avoid "too much nasality" and focus higher.
@@EliPrinsensHVTVocals Bruno mars’ mix voice is not pharyngeal mix ?
I can sing in mixed voice but my problem is it sounds weak and also doesnt sound good. Any way to make it sound good???
Use the technique in this video, you can use your favorite exercises to do so as long as you have fusion of your head and chest voice. There are a number of reasons it may not be hitting for you and a plethora of techniques and exercises to help you.
That's me too. It just sounds like mickey mouse. It doesn't feel like its resonating in the chest at all
@@RutabegaFarmer yeahh exactly there is no use of having mixed voice if it doesnt sound good
@@RutabegaFarmer if its airy and weak u might be using falsetto neither head nor mixed since they have very pronounced resonances
@@RutabegaFarmer I would follow his advice. If you are very young your voice will have a hard time sounding lower for fullness.