I approve of Knuckles being overpowered. He is characteristic of the series is being the powerful one and he is the only one, to constantly wear punching gloves. And he has a killer theme song about beating up others.
His usual weakness is that he's just not quite as fast as Sonic-tier characters. In an arena fighter where people faster than him *can't* just hit-and-run him to death? Of course he dominates.
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The gloves are actually what his hands look like. The spikes also grow out of his hand
If there are 100 honey enjoyers left I am one of them If there are 10 honey enjoyers left I am one of them If there is only one honey enjoyer left that is me If there are no more honey enjoyers I am dead
I really appreciate the "pick [character] if you want to play THIS way" statements. They make for a good tagline for introducing someone new to any fighting game. Your concise phrasing lets me imagine a character as a way to interact with my opponent, rather than a puzzle to solve.
I never had any idea how complex this game was! Honestly, "Sonic the Fighters" could've been Sonic's "Mario Kart" if they didn't abandon it. Sonic Battle, I guess, is technically in that series but it's been almost 20 years since that game came out...
I never realized sonic the fighters was an actual competitive fighting game. I thought it was a mostly forgotten arcade game that was rereleased twice and was shown for a millisecond in Wreck It Ralph.
It's very strange that SEGA has not released a modern Sonic fighting game. Especially in this climate where fighting games have really made it into the mainstream. Both of the most notable Sonic fighting games that have been released have a lot of mechanical depth.
I've played the game a decent amount casually over the years, and I was always invested in Fang over any other character. A major part of that is because for a lot of characters at a low level, the differences between punches and kicks feel very arbitrary. I never felt like I needed to use kick attacks, they felt redundant. However, with Fang, there is a clear difference between punch attacks and kick attacks, especially considering that his projectile punch attacks cannot break barriers, thus forcing one to rely on kicks early on. It felt like Fang had a complete moveset I needed to learn and engage with while everyone else had like half of a moveset in comparison. Naturally, at higher levels of play this isn't true at all, but for a new player up against other new players or the ai playing as Fang early on helped get me accustomed to actually using all three buttons and learning what circumstances promoted different attacks.
Fang has a lot of unique kicks too. He's got a really neat kit actually. The main thing with kicks is they will have higher priority in some spots like vs spin dashes, and they also are actually usually faster to come out than punches.
This is SEGA's chance to make Sonic the Fighters HD and add characters like Eggman, Shadow, Metal Sonic, and everyone's favorite character: Avatar from Sonic Forces
Customizable Avatar-Self from Sonic Forces in a fighting game for Sonic? Now THAT sounds like Sonic's call to Soul Calibur almost (or Street Fighter 6), oh and don't forget about Silver, Blaze, Sticks, or Mephales (w/e his name was who was Silver's *actual* nemesis and ruined his name), maybe Biolizard or Black Doom as Bosses?
Thanks. It helped that I spent a long time talking to community members and playing the game before I made this overview. Hopefully can talk about others games like in the future though!
Fighting game noob, Iron Tagger/ Potemkin main, and being my favorite sonic character along with being the only sonic game he is playable I have no regrets picking Bark even when I whiff a grab or move at the speed molasses. I consider it penalty training for grapplers in other games. Also Biff Baff animation is just too good.
This game's metagame is more detailed than people think, because it based on virtua fighter and fighting vipers from Sega AM2, their 3d fighters have always historically had immensely deep movesets
I remember buying Sonic the Fighters on Xbox Arcade along with Sonic Adventure and having a bunch of fun with friends at parties who didn't even know about the game. It's awesome to see the renaissance of this wacky game with the fgc.
Asking about overviews in the discord and being met with this a few hours later was the funniest shit to ever happen. these videos are great btw keep it up!!
I played this game when I was really young in some kind of Sega PS2 collection. Wasnt a fighting game fan back then so I wrote it off. Seeing this video tho, makes me want to give it a shot
This is actually pretty in depth! Still not sure who I wanna play since the guy I wanted to play is banned haha. I’ll still probably check this game out one day
That tier list turns into a character overview Fr even small changes to the characters with similar movesets can make a difference in the character playstyles and moveset
In a retro game video,I shouldn’t be surprised but hearing Chicago in the background and then having to explain why hearing Chicago from Mickey’s speedway USA to my gf gave me such joy. Great music choice.
I remembered playing as Tails the first time I played this game, I kept grabbing and slamming the other fighters with his flying move in the story mode, and it was fun. I wanna play this game again.
If you have a decent PC, most people play it on the RPCS3 emulator for PS3. There are also versions on Xbox consoles, PS3, and on PS4/PS5 and PC via Lost Judgment, the Like A Dragon game!
Not only did I find a video on a childhood hidden gem, it also features another hidden gem during my favorite character's overview. (Mickey Mouse Speedway USA OST over Bean)
SPOILER WARNING (not that it matters) 0:35 "Espio's sure to be a top tier!" 11:54 "Uh... Okay... He's sure to be a solid pick!!" "Oh! Uhm... He can't be that bad, right" 17:08 "Oh"
This is so insanely entertaining Bean is not a Woodpecker 💀 EDIT: This might be misleading so; I know he is but in my mind he will remain a duck... or dynamite because it's funny.
I didn't even guess all my life that a Sonic fighting game would not just have Sonic be more average in regards to speed, but also have him be a contender for the top tiers. Unrelated note: I love that Dynamite Plant looks like a fusion of Chemical Plant, Oil Ocean, and Metropolis, among other neat environmental touches.
Interesting video always wanted to try this game but never have. Closet I have gotten is playing fighting vipers and spamming been a bunch he is allot of fun to play but feels cheap as hell at least in that game
The studio behind Virtua Fighter perfected the games over the years. They can do the same with Sonic. A new game with new fighters and a deep story can work.
0:54 "Much like in Smash. Sonic is a character who handles many of his problems in StF the same way." By being a camping bitch? "By turning into a ball." Oh right. 🫠
Without watching the video yet, my personal tier list has been as follows for years of playing with friends and online through Parsec and Dolphin Emulator: Metal Sonic Eggman and Honey are banned S tier is Knuckles and Espio A tier is Sonic and Bean B tier is Tails and Fang C tier is Bark and Amy In my opinion, you can pretty much pick any of the top 5 characters and win, I play Tails because he's my fav character but I pocket Knuckles because he is undisputed number 1 imho. Espio is second and distant second too, but still better than Sonic think because his range and spin attack. Sonic is just all around good and Beans bomb moves are soooo annoying. Only reason Bean isn't higher is because unlike Knuckles Espio Sonic and Tails he has no spin attack to be a moving hitbox. But his bomb kick and short toss are still very good. Either way again, top 5 chars can win decisively but the bottom three, Fang, Bark, and Amy, are either too slow (Bark), too low dmg (Amy), or just loses to the spin attacks on most of his moves (Fang). Anywho, I love the FGC in general and I play SF6 Tekken 8 and GGST, but I've been a fan of this game casually and semi competitively for a long time, and I can't wait to watch this vid and see the opinions expressed in this vid 😊
When I play STF story mode as Sonic I always find chances to perform ↓↓P but I always fail and does a regular punch instead. Wait is that You're Izayoi
Espio is not bottom tier! I just talked about him last!
@@wusstunes Espio does not deserve to be mentioned.
I think someone needs to educate you on what a tier list is
Unc waited 7 months to say this
I love how this game is far more deep than people see it as
Agreed. Everyone always see this game as a button mashing game.
from the slander this game got, and the rise it recieved.
It's like the game is becoming a messiah
Well it based on virtua fighter and fighting vipers from Sega AM2, their 3d fighters have always historically had immensely deep movesets
Yeah
@@baconbutevil76or Smash Melee
pick tails. everyone will be mad, but YOU will be happy.
I love being happy!
I do love making people mad.
Vouch
Pick tails. Everyone will be happy.
SRB2 battlemod PTSD
I approve of Knuckles being overpowered.
He is characteristic of the series is being the powerful one and he is the only one, to constantly wear punching gloves.
And he has a killer theme song about beating up others.
Yeah i think if any sonic character was gonna be super strong in a fighting game, it was gonna be knuckles
His usual weakness is that he's just not quite as fast as Sonic-tier characters.
In an arena fighter where people faster than him *can't* just hit-and-run him to death? Of course he dominates.
The gloves are actually what his hands look like. The spikes also grow out of his hand
WE DON’T KNOW THAT! But I agree
And, unlike Sonic, he doesn't chuckle.
2:16 "Play sonic if you want to fully engage with the game and your opponent"
I've been too traumatized for that sentence not to sound weird to me
it only applies if Sonic is the main character of the game he's in, otherwise it doesn't apply
I don't know what weird internet thing traumatized you, but I would like to rescind that statement. Sonic is, in fact, cheap as hell.
@@wusstunes Smash Bros, I think.
Yep, Smashy Bros Sonic and STF Sonic are 2 completely different characters.
What about super sonic?
If there are 100 honey enjoyers left I am one of them
If there are 10 honey enjoyers left I am one of them
If there is only one honey enjoyer left that is me
If there are no more honey enjoyers I am dead
Honey is an absolute queen and must be put in future games at all costs
cant believe you let death take away the things you love
@@BonitoJoe111she is a Sonic-ified version of Honey from Fighting Vipers so you can get more Honey there but I really like her Sonic design so I agree
@@BonitoJoe111 she was in the comics...but tbf almost everyone has been in the comics
Her design and style is S tier.
I really appreciate the "pick [character] if you want to play THIS way" statements. They make for a good tagline for introducing someone new to any fighting game. Your concise phrasing lets me imagine a character as a way to interact with my opponent, rather than a puzzle to solve.
I never had any idea how complex this game was!
Honestly, "Sonic the Fighters" could've been Sonic's "Mario Kart" if they didn't abandon it.
Sonic Battle, I guess, is technically in that series but it's been almost 20 years since that game came out...
And it could have a good roster of characters. I mean, is one the charms of the Sonic Franchise.
to all amy players out there
always remember that 90% of gamblers quit before they otg heads up to death 🎰🎰🎰
oh my god its the fruitmando dev YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
LMAO
@@beefour7480 AW DANG IT
Duck shuffler
(Just got into ttcc sorry)
I never realized sonic the fighters was an actual competitive fighting game. I thought it was a mostly forgotten arcade game that was rereleased twice and was shown for a millisecond in Wreck It Ralph.
It's very strange that SEGA has not released a modern Sonic fighting game. Especially in this climate where fighting games have really made it into the mainstream. Both of the most notable Sonic fighting games that have been released have a lot of mechanical depth.
Pick Bean, he may not be the best, but he annoys the opponent the most
I like Bean, but I have a tendency towards detrimentally honest characters, so I believe I'll pass
@@Eldoofus I guess you're right, it can get annoying watching a bean main blast themself into an airtech for the 500th time
🌬💨💣💥
pfp checks out
Nice pfp
I like how you used Kuma's Tekken 3 theme when discussing Bark. How fitting lol
And Ibuki for Espio.
Amy's classic resign is so charming
I've played the game a decent amount casually over the years, and I was always invested in Fang over any other character. A major part of that is because for a lot of characters at a low level, the differences between punches and kicks feel very arbitrary. I never felt like I needed to use kick attacks, they felt redundant. However, with Fang, there is a clear difference between punch attacks and kick attacks, especially considering that his projectile punch attacks cannot break barriers, thus forcing one to rely on kicks early on. It felt like Fang had a complete moveset I needed to learn and engage with while everyone else had like half of a moveset in comparison. Naturally, at higher levels of play this isn't true at all, but for a new player up against other new players or the ai playing as Fang early on helped get me accustomed to actually using all three buttons and learning what circumstances promoted different attacks.
Fang has a lot of unique kicks too. He's got a really neat kit actually.
The main thing with kicks is they will have higher priority in some spots like vs spin dashes, and they also are actually usually faster to come out than punches.
I actually think from all this great STF content I’ve been watching has made me want to see this game on a bigger stage more and more
I was the only Espio player in the CEO 2024 bracket. It was a pretty big knowledge check for some people. Lol
This is SEGA's chance to make Sonic the Fighters HD and add characters like Eggman, Shadow, Metal Sonic, and everyone's favorite character: Avatar from Sonic Forces
You must be speaking of Ian Jr.
Customizable Avatar-Self from Sonic Forces in a fighting game for Sonic? Now THAT sounds like Sonic's call to Soul Calibur almost (or Street Fighter 6), oh and don't forget about Silver, Blaze, Sticks, or Mephales (w/e his name was who was Silver's *actual* nemesis and ruined his name), maybe Biolizard or Black Doom as Bosses?
also the hard boiled crew omg the possibilities!
They already did that but without Avatar. It is called "Sonic Battle" or "Sonic Adventure 2 Battle".
@@GregoryKelly-x1msonic battle is nothing like Sonic The Fighters and Sonic Adventure 2 Battle is just a port of SA2
I like this. I wish more ppl made videos explaining characters the way you did
Thanks. It helped that I spent a long time talking to community members and playing the game before I made this overview. Hopefully can talk about others games like in the future though!
0:00 Intro
*High Tiers*
0:28 Sonic
2:22 Knuckles
3:37 Honey
4:56 Tails
7:40 Bean
9:44 Fang
*Others*
11:54 Amy
14:02 Bark
17:07 Espio
Fighting game noob, Iron Tagger/ Potemkin main, and being my favorite sonic character along with being the only sonic game he is playable I have no regrets picking Bark even when I whiff a grab or move at the speed molasses. I consider it penalty training for grapplers in other games. Also Biff Baff animation is just too good.
This game's metagame is more detailed than people think, because it based on virtua fighter and fighting vipers from Sega AM2, their 3d fighters have always historically had immensely deep movesets
I remember buying Sonic the Fighters on Xbox Arcade along with Sonic Adventure and having a bunch of fun with friends at parties who didn't even know about the game. It's awesome to see the renaissance of this wacky game with the fgc.
i like the every of the characters. i will ditto everyone and there is no way to stop me.
ahhh... the ditto fights, the best fights
Asking about overviews in the discord and being met with this a few hours later was the funniest shit to ever happen. these videos are great btw keep it up!!
The comment on top on 0:11 is mine lol, glad my feedback was heard!
for 28 years i had no clue thank you I know who to main now.
I love Bark sm bro And I will still forever choose Bark, this game is so good 😭🙏
Same. Was scrolling through to find any other Bark mains. Will always be my favorite.
Keep up the great STF coverage! Made me give it another shot :)
"lore accurate sonic in smash would not spin so much"
Lore accurate sonic: spins even more.
I played this game when I was really young in some kind of Sega PS2 collection. Wasnt a fighting game fan back then so I wrote it off. Seeing this video tho, makes me want to give it a shot
honey..who is this..the cutest character ever..
This is actually pretty in depth! Still not sure who I wanna play since the guy I wanted to play is banned haha. I’ll still probably check this game out one day
That tier list turns into a character overview
Fr even small changes to the characters with similar movesets can make a difference in the character playstyles and moveset
Your commitment to this game is lovely
Reminder: the Xbox 360 store is shutting down soon. If you want sonic the fighters on 360 you’ll need to get it now.
Yes thank you we need more Xbox players 🙏
The game has BC support on Xbox One/Series X|S, so it should be still possible to buy it after I believe.
@@shreeder4092All that means is you can play it on later consoles if you own it. The actual store is shutting down.
Should've titled the vid "The sonic the fighters the tierlist
[literally 2 weeks later after this was uploaded] "After over two decades, Sonic the Fighters has just received it's first ever balance patch..."
I love how happy tails is when he does his little punch flurry
hey, really good music selection!
In a retro game video,I shouldn’t be surprised but hearing Chicago in the background and then having to explain why hearing Chicago from Mickey’s speedway USA to my gf gave me such joy. Great music choice.
I am almost certain that I used that song because Chicago is home of the Bean 🎉
This game needs a sequel.
I remembered playing as Tails the first time I played this game, I kept grabbing and slamming the other fighters with his flying move in the story mode, and it was fun.
I wanna play this game again.
Why is it always my favorite characters who end up being low tier
Thanks buddy now i can play the game without getting my ass kicked by Espio every time!
oh so i would actually enjoy honey! maybe i should pick up stf
but wait..isnt there eggma-
nobody picks eggman.
what about metal-
NOBODY PICKS METAL SONIC
Metal Sonic is such a cool design. I would play him if he wasn’t banned
Really appreciate this video dude. I'm looking at Bean cos he's a bird and I think they're cool. I also love grabbing people so he seems like a shout
Havent played this game since i was 10 on Ps2. Happy to see it still alive
I've never heard of this game is my life but this was such a fun watch. I wish I had access to this game it looks like a ton of fun
If you have a decent PC, most people play it on the RPCS3 emulator for PS3. There are also versions on Xbox consoles, PS3, and on PS4/PS5 and PC via Lost Judgment, the Like A Dragon game!
Not only did I find a video on a childhood hidden gem, it also features another hidden gem during my favorite character's overview. (Mickey Mouse Speedway USA OST over Bean)
I had no idea this game has an actual real fighting game scene until now, that’s so cool
Bark my beloved
Aw shit, yet more STF content baby lets gooooo🔥🔥🔥
SPOILER WARNING
(not that it matters)
0:35 "Espio's sure to be a top tier!"
11:54 "Uh... Okay... He's sure to be a solid pick!!"
"Oh! Uhm... He can't be that bad, right"
17:08 "Oh"
“Oh no, my boy is trash!” 😅
He’s fine I just talked about him last because I find him dull
17:08 Hey, what is the music that plays during the Espio Review? i heard it somewhere before but i can't remember the name
Ibuki's theme from street fighter 3
Sonic The Fighters respect in my recommendations, today is a good day
Why do I enjoy these videos so much? I don't even have anything to play this game on xD
Glad all the niche fighting communities are turning up now. First, Smash Bros Brawl, now Sonic The Fighters
I know it's unlikely, but I still hold out hope for a sequel or a new sonic fighting game
This game looks so beautiful and expressive
Wish we get a remake of it
This is so insanely entertaining
Bean is not a Woodpecker 💀
EDIT: This might be misleading so; I know he is but in my mind he will remain a duck... or dynamite because it's funny.
He is, as his name states, a dynamite. Should've read the label smh.
Bean actually is called a woodpecker in canon material, despite being implied to be the son of a dynamite duck
@@ViashinoWizard I know but I refuse to leave the past thought of him being a duck especially when he hella looks the part xD
I didn't even guess all my life that a Sonic fighting game would not just have Sonic be more average in regards to speed, but also have him be a contender for the top tiers.
Unrelated note: I love that Dynamite Plant looks like a fusion of Chemical Plant, Oil Ocean, and Metropolis, among other neat environmental touches.
Interesting video always wanted to try this game but never have.
Closet I have gotten is playing fighting vipers and spamming been a bunch he is allot of fun to play but feels cheap as hell at least in that game
7:42 Yoooooo is that Mickey's Speedway USA music I hear? I used to love that game
The studio behind Virtua Fighter perfected the games over the years. They can do the same with Sonic. A new game with new fighters and a deep story can work.
I only cared about this game for so long simply because of Honey the Cat. Now that I'm grown, i play this game amongst my friends
0:54 "Much like in Smash. Sonic is a character who handles many of his problems in StF the same way."
By being a camping bitch?
"By turning into a ball."
Oh right. 🫠
he definitely camps a lot too!
My favorite STF character to play as is Knuckles.
I knew I wasnt going crazy about Tails
I’m really happy that even if Espio is the worst character ranking wise, he’s still viable
Not the worst, I just talked about him last bc I do not like him
This videos title and thumbnail going through character arcs lmao
I need to break my intimidation that I feel towards this game and actually tap in to learning and playing it.
I remembered emulating this game ages ago. Main I loved maining Fang, Bean, Bark and Honey. If only Sega brought them back.
🦆Oddly enough, the "Chicago Sewers" music from Mickey's Speedway USA fits Bean like a condom.
So is Amy’s finger wag thing an infinite with perfect execution?
nah. people call it a 50/50 basically. she has to read the way you roll to get up with her timing.
Please tell me how you were able to freecam in this game. Id love to be able to know how
its a mod, its in the stf discord if you want it
Without watching the video yet, my personal tier list has been as follows for years of playing with friends and online through Parsec and Dolphin Emulator:
Metal Sonic Eggman and Honey are banned
S tier is Knuckles and Espio
A tier is Sonic and Bean
B tier is Tails and Fang
C tier is Bark and Amy
In my opinion, you can pretty much pick any of the top 5 characters and win, I play Tails because he's my fav character but I pocket Knuckles because he is undisputed number 1 imho. Espio is second and distant second too, but still better than Sonic think because his range and spin attack. Sonic is just all around good and Beans bomb moves are soooo annoying. Only reason Bean isn't higher is because unlike Knuckles Espio Sonic and Tails he has no spin attack to be a moving hitbox. But his bomb kick and short toss are still very good. Either way again, top 5 chars can win decisively but the bottom three, Fang, Bark, and Amy, are either too slow (Bark), too low dmg (Amy), or just loses to the spin attacks on most of his moves (Fang). Anywho, I love the FGC in general and I play SF6 Tekken 8 and GGST, but I've been a fan of this game casually and semi competitively for a long time, and I can't wait to watch this vid and see the opinions expressed in this vid 😊
When I play STF story mode as
Sonic I always find chances to perform ↓↓P but I always fail and does a regular punch instead.
Wait is that You're Izayoi
Been maining Tails almost since I started really playing STF, so I'm waiting for the Tails renaissance
Today I learned you can spike after the volley.
2:45 IS THAT DYNAMITE HEADDY MUSIC
We need an updated version, since Robotnics and Metal are in the game now!
It would be great if we got another Sonic fighting game
I love this game because of one word squishy. I swear these guys are like a gelatin ball bouncing left and right. 1:44
Bark was like the Alex before Street Fighter III ngl
Gets hit by a tongue.
Calls it "unsavory".
Zing
9:01 no way this man made a chicken pun. Keep up the good work bro
Commenting to boost engagement, you should too.
I would pick bark as they are a new fave
Sorry tails and knuckles but i gotta give an underrated character love that they deserve
9:49 Whats the song playing for Fang here?
Yay I asked for this video, thank you!
This is a bit off topic but I keep forgetting that bean is a woodpecker and not a duck
hes kinda both and kinda neither
Amy is my main, hands down
They need to make a new sonic the fighters since the only other mainstream 3d fighting game is tekken right now
I wish I used to play in Timezone before
Everytime I See A Sonic CPU Use Volley Toss, I Always Think "F*ck You For Uppercutting Me With A Wii Remote"
I didn't even realize people were playing. I thought RGG just brought it back as crosspromotion for Sanic.
0:48 did........
did Sonic just did an electric wind god fist?
I love espio 💜
I thought Honey was Amy's clone character, since they share the same roster spot?