Great video. Our pump always used to shut off completely when changing from skimmer to spa mode and then restart once the valves were in place, which I think is the right way for them to work. However, recently after some repairs were carried out we've noticed that the pump continues running when the valves change. Do you know where we adjust this setting so that the pump pauses between skimmer/spa change?
It is a setting in the configuration for either the pump to stop while the actuator valves turn or the pump to continue running. Personally I set up the pump to keep running while the valves turn since they turn so slowly and it's not a problem for them to do that.
the interesting thing about the Omni Logic is that it combines the antenna with the control unit...not a great thing...especially when you use wifi and you need locate the unit in a hard to reach spot to get enough reception (50% or more) to keep a steady connection...kinda hard to access the control when it is 7 ft off the ground or higher
Great video. Just starting to learn about this system. Couple questions. When you go into configuration wizard and you click new configuration, does that override an existing configuration or are there now 2 configurations set up. Also, my system has 2 pumps. One is the filter pump and one is the jet pump for spa. The system seems confused and I think it might be cause it is set as one body of water or maybe because a second configuration was set up after I was having troubles with the first set up Thanks for the videos, they’re great
I have another video walking you through an Omni configuration so watch that one to guide you through setting up pool and spa mode. But to answer your questions, when setting up NEW config, it's new and overrides other config, otherwise you just EDIT your existing config. Second, you need to set up 2 bodies of water, one pool the other spa. In Pool set up your main pool pump that I assume is shared between both. In spa mode set up your spa jet pump only in spa area and you should be good.
Great explanation of the system. Probably better than my builder. Question: does the bubbler only work in Pool mode? Can you calibrate the touch screen? My unit seems to be off...
Yes the bubblers only work in pool mode, when you go to spa mode, the pool side is cut off when the valves change. To calibrate the touch screen, go to Config, Shell Command, tap the screen, EraseCalib, check mark to erase current calibration, then tap the 5 boxes that appear on the screen to reset the touchscreen calibration.
Can you show what needs to be done if you have this type of equipment but want to add the SPILLWAY setup from SPA to POOL? I have spillway but wasn't added in the setup config during installation.
Consult the OmniLogic manual on Hayward's website or tech support for more info about this. I'm not actually sure what this setup is supposed to do, I never set it up spillway when I am setting up an OmniLogic system.
I have a spa integrated into my pool which I believe like you were describing and it spills over into the pool during normal pool mode. So from what you showed it is ok to have the SPA valve off when in pool mode and only turn it on isolating the SPA when in SPA mode? I was worried that during pool mode it needed to still be pulling water to clean it? Thank you.
I have had mine for only a year. I have had no issues until this past weekend. I switched from pool to spa pump mode but the valves never turned. The Omni says it’s in spa mode with no error codes. But it’s stuck in pool. What could it possibly be?
Not sure. I would advise a complete reboot of system and also reboot of router. If that doesn't work for valves to change, there is a fuse to check on Omni circuit board to make sure it's ok for actuators to run. If still not working, they may have to reprogram your system from scratch to see if it will work then.
I have a smaller “plunge” pool only about 3950 gal. It is set up in “pool” mode with a heat pump heater. The heat pumps control panel goes to 104. But with Hayward in “pool” mode it is capped to 90. Can i factory reset the system and trick the Hayward into thinking it is a spa not a pool somehow? I want to get the pool higher than 90. Thanks.
First, the heater set point in OmniLogic should be able to be set to higher than 90 in the programming of the Omni. You can see my video on configuration of the Omni to see where you could go and edit your configuration and change this, in the heater section of the pool side. If you can't find it or can't figure out how to edit it, then just set your pool up as a spa, instead of pool, and this will allow you to go up to 104. Second, if you actually have a heat pump instead of a gas heater, your limitation will be the environmental temperature and you may have a hard time actually getting the temp above 90 degrees anyway. If a gas heater, then that water continues to be heated apart from what the temp is outside. Hope this helps.
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 Hey thanks so much I was able to dig deep into the settings and find this. Pool now heats to 95 easily with the heat pump and it's great! Follow up questions: 1. You said that you shouldn't heat a pool over 90deg. What's the reason for this? We used to have a cedar barrel type hot tub and in the summer we would turn it down to 95 or so and use it as a small pool without issue. What is the concern about heating a pool over 90? If it's important, its a 4000gal smaller "plunge" pool 2. I live in the piedmont of North Carolina. We have a heat pump, as we noted. Do we do better to constantly leave the pool at the desired temp of 93, 94, or 95 or is it better to set a program to let it cool back down into the 80s then heat back up for the afternoon/evening when we use it most? THANKS!
@@marshamk I'm mainly talking about a big pools like 20 or 25K gallons. It jacks the chemicals up a lot so you should check your chemicals daily. Your 4K pool is like a large hot tub so go for it, but still keep track of the chemicals to keep them in balance.
Thanks for the explanation! Does the spa pump have to be on medium or high when in spa mode? I have an issue with water slowly draining from the spa when I have the valves set to heat the spa. However, I've been running the pump on low speed.
In spa mode turn pump speed up to minimum of medium, I usually turn up to 75-80% when in spa mode. On low it doesn't have enough power to push water up to higher spa returns.
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 1-are those “internals below the actuators “ are 2 o-ring and a spacer? And 2- do i need to empty the pool first. Thank you so much 😊
Not that it matters I've always thought that Bo means bypass operation. If it really means board operation then I would like to say it correctly Not a big deal I would just like to know the correct terminology If you get a chance to reply please do Thanks
I just looked it up and it does mean bypass operation. I just never looked it up before, someone called it that and so did I. Goes to show we should never assume. Thanks.
it takes 10x as many words ( and 4 times the steps) to explain putting the system into pool or spa mode with a Hayward Omni Illogical. than with Pentair and Jandy systems and Hayward's claim to fame is making something simple, difficult. It's the Common Math version of pool automation!!!
I'm explaining things in the video, but the service side setup of the Pentair is much more complicated than the Omni, the Jandy is not bad but still irritating to me.
WOW! Incredible setup, spared no expense. Very nice, clean, professional installation, and top of the line equipment.
Thanks, I partner with that pool builder, Paradise Oasis Pools. There are other companies in town that I wouldn't partner with.
What an incredible explanation!!!!! Thank you! I want to add the electric valves to my set up!!
Great! Glad it helped you!
Great video. Our pump always used to shut off completely when changing from skimmer to spa mode and then restart once the valves were in place, which I think is the right way for them to work. However, recently after some repairs were carried out we've noticed that the pump continues running when the valves change. Do you know where we adjust this setting so that the pump pauses between skimmer/spa change?
It is a setting in the configuration for either the pump to stop while the actuator valves turn or the pump to continue running. Personally I set up the pump to keep running while the valves turn since they turn so slowly and it's not a problem for them to do that.
this is in the configuration of the OmniLogic
The most important part I needed to hear was about the heater in BO mode but I can’t hear you
Sorry for the poor audio.
the interesting thing about the Omni Logic is that it combines the antenna with the control unit...not a great thing...especially when you use wifi and you need locate the unit in a hard to reach spot to get enough reception (50% or more) to keep a steady connection...kinda hard to access the control when it is 7 ft off the ground or higher
I have seen some people put the OmniLogic high on the wall
Great video. Just starting to learn about this system. Couple questions. When you go into configuration wizard and you click new configuration, does that override an existing configuration or are there now 2 configurations set up. Also, my system has 2 pumps. One is the filter pump and one is the jet pump for spa. The system seems confused and I think it might be cause it is set as one body of water or maybe because a second configuration was set up after I was having troubles with the first set up
Thanks for the videos, they’re great
I have another video walking you through an Omni configuration so watch that one to guide you through setting up pool and spa mode. But to answer your questions, when setting up NEW config, it's new and overrides other config, otherwise you just EDIT your existing config. Second, you need to set up 2 bodies of water, one pool the other spa. In Pool set up your main pool pump that I assume is shared between both. In spa mode set up your spa jet pump only in spa area and you should be good.
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 thank you!
Great explanation of the system. Probably better than my builder. Question: does the bubbler only work in Pool mode? Can you calibrate the touch screen? My unit seems to be off...
Yes the bubblers only work in pool mode, when you go to spa mode, the pool side is cut off when the valves change. To calibrate the touch screen, go to Config, Shell Command, tap the screen, EraseCalib, check mark to erase current calibration, then tap the 5 boxes that appear on the screen to reset the touchscreen calibration.
Can you show what needs to be done if you have this type of equipment but want to add the SPILLWAY setup from SPA to POOL? I have spillway but wasn't added in the setup config during installation.
Consult the OmniLogic manual on Hayward's website or tech support for more info about this. I'm not actually sure what this setup is supposed to do, I never set it up spillway when I am setting up an OmniLogic system.
I have a spa integrated into my pool which I believe like you were describing and it spills over into the pool during normal pool mode. So from what you showed it is ok to have the SPA valve off when in pool mode and only turn it on isolating the SPA when in SPA mode? I was worried that during pool mode it needed to still be pulling water to clean it? Thank you.
If you mean having the spa SUCTION valve off when in pool mode, then yes. That will allow the spa to spill over into the pool, otherwise it will not.
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 Thank you, yes that is what I meant.
@@scarsons10 OK.
I have had mine for only a year. I have had no issues until this past weekend. I switched from pool to spa pump mode but the valves never turned. The Omni says it’s in spa mode with no error codes. But it’s stuck in pool. What could it possibly be?
Not sure. I would advise a complete reboot of system and also reboot of router. If that doesn't work for valves to change, there is a fuse to check on Omni circuit board to make sure it's ok for actuators to run. If still not working, they may have to reprogram your system from scratch to see if it will work then.
I have a smaller “plunge” pool only about 3950 gal. It is set up in “pool” mode with a heat pump heater. The heat pumps control panel goes to 104. But with Hayward in “pool” mode it is capped to 90. Can i factory reset the system and trick the Hayward into thinking it is a spa not a pool somehow? I want to get the pool higher than 90. Thanks.
First, the heater set point in OmniLogic should be able to be set to higher than 90 in the programming of the Omni. You can see my video on configuration of the Omni to see where you could go and edit your configuration and change this, in the heater section of the pool side. If you can't find it or can't figure out how to edit it, then just set your pool up as a spa, instead of pool, and this will allow you to go up to 104. Second, if you actually have a heat pump instead of a gas heater, your limitation will be the environmental temperature and you may have a hard time actually getting the temp above 90 degrees anyway. If a gas heater, then that water continues to be heated apart from what the temp is outside. Hope this helps.
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 Hey thanks so much I was able to dig deep into the settings and find this. Pool now heats to 95 easily with the heat pump and it's great!
Follow up questions:
1. You said that you shouldn't heat a pool over 90deg. What's the reason for this? We used to have a cedar barrel type hot tub and in the summer we would turn it down to 95 or so and use it as a small pool without issue. What is the concern about heating a pool over 90? If it's important, its a 4000gal smaller "plunge" pool
2. I live in the piedmont of North Carolina. We have a heat pump, as we noted. Do we do better to constantly leave the pool at the desired temp of 93, 94, or 95 or is it better to set a program to let it cool back down into the 80s then heat back up for the afternoon/evening when we use it most?
THANKS!
@@marshamk I'm mainly talking about a big pools like 20 or 25K gallons. It jacks the chemicals up a lot so you should check your chemicals daily. Your 4K pool is like a large hot tub so go for it, but still keep track of the chemicals to keep them in balance.
Thanks for the explanation! Does the spa pump have to be on medium or high when in spa mode? I have an issue with water slowly draining from the spa when I have the valves set to heat the spa. However, I've been running the pump on low speed.
In spa mode turn pump speed up to minimum of medium, I usually turn up to 75-80% when in spa mode. On low it doesn't have enough power to push water up to higher spa returns.
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 thank you so much for the reply. Your videos have helped me tremendously! Thanks!
@@25HawkDriver Wonderful to hear, that's why I make them is to try to help DIY people and to help people understand!
What happens when the system goes into freeze protect.
Runs all the time while below freezing temps.
How do i setup/configure my spa to have the valves move automatically.
Set that up in configuration when setting up the spa area. You are adding the Actuator valves on valve 1 and valve 2. Watch my configuration videos.
Thank you! Any pointers for a Goldwing gva-24 dripping water on the ground when rotating. Need to fix it. Thanks
Replace the internals of the valve below the actuator. It's leaking from the stem of the valve when the actuator turns it.
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 1-are those “internals below the actuators “ are 2 o-ring and a spacer? And 2- do i need to empty the pool first. Thank you so much 😊
Yes they are. You don't have to empty pool first.
Not that it matters
I've always thought that Bo means bypass operation.
If it really means board operation then I would like to say it correctly
Not a big deal I would just like to know the correct terminology
If you get a chance to reply please do
Thanks
I just looked it up and it does mean bypass operation. I just never looked it up before, someone called it that and so did I. Goes to show we should never assume. Thanks.
it takes 10x as many words ( and 4 times the steps) to explain putting the system into pool or spa mode with a Hayward Omni Illogical. than with Pentair and Jandy systems and Hayward's claim to fame is making something simple, difficult. It's the Common Math version of pool automation!!!
I'm explaining things in the video, but the service side setup of the Pentair is much more complicated than the Omni, the Jandy is not bad but still irritating to me.
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