Peugeot 205 T16 Evo II VS Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak || Montée des Légendes 2018
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- Опубликовано: 25 сен 2018
- Last weekend´s Montée des Legendes in France was a Hillclimb Festival with some amazing guests, but what caught our attention was the possibility of watching back to back Two Peugeot Monsters: the 600+Hp/930Kg Group B 205 T16 Evo II and Loeb´s 875Hp/875Kg 208 T16 Pikes Peak.
Although never a fair comparison when it comes to pure Speed, it was a unique opportunity to watch these 2 Legends that at different points in time were the most extreme cars ever created by Peugeot Sport. Also they both share interesting connections to Pikes Peak, as obviously, Loeb´s car was a former Overall recordist of the event, but Jean Duby´s 205 also uses the engine that Peugeot Sport fitted on the Pikes Peak versions of the 205 T16 that competed on the 1987 edition of Pikes Peak. 
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208 is absolutely mentally quick and as much as i like it its still just a very good machine, if i had to choose would still take the 205, its got soul, like a wild animal that u have to take by the scruff and try to tame..
Thats why electric shit is boring, electric power steering sucks ass!
+john smith To each their own.But i don't agree with you saying only 205 has soul.208 has it as well in my opinion.
You can see how it sounds,how it goes.That car is a true animal.I'd rather dare to slam the pedal in 205 than 208 because 208 seems like it's just too much to handle when compared to 205.
205 has a soul? Maybe, but it's for sure the most souless beast of Gr. B. Literally nothing special, except winning the championship.
Metro 6R4 was a N/A V6.
037 was supercharged.
Audi Quattro S1 E2 has the inline 5 turbo.
The Delta S4 was super- and turbo- charged. Cappable of a lot of HP.
Citröen BX was a tryhard Group B wannabe.
Ford RS200 had its own shape, and was builted only for rallying.
Opel Manta was that guy nobady even thought it was a Group B car.
+Ryan Rivero Santana i never said it had the most soul of all the group b cars all though was still a good car just not compared to the mighty quattro or the beautiful rs200, was merely comparing the old and new peugeots.. (the manta 400 has a place in my heart too as i had the joy to ride in one 4yrs ago and was a truely special experiance!)
+Ryan Rivero Santana and the bx just arrived to late just like the opel kaddet 4x4 turbo and many others that slipped through the net after the tragidys..
Don't forget the 208 is made for the new 100% asphalt Pikes Peak, whilst the 205 had to cope with the dirt part. The lower ride height helps 208's pace a lot..
And?
It doesn't change the fact than 208 blown away 205.
@@samwisehuluberlu2210 and??
It is proven the pikes peak 205 t16 can deal with both gravel AND tarmac aswell. Where the pikes peak 208 t16 didnt.
Besides, the 205t16 have better and more lovely memorable engine sound
@@Dinoface96 point of view about sound. For the rest, T16 208 version was built for asphalt, not for dirt..
this 205 is the group b version, no the pikes peak one
bullshit
I know the 208 is much faster but I like the 205 way more. The older cars just have something the newer cars don't in my opinion.
They have a Soul.
Same
Carburator
the 205 t16 you said, thats true? it has a carburator? hahaha man , are you kidding?
YES!! STILL HAS TO BE THE 205 FOR ME.... IT MIGHT BE THE LEOPARD AND NOT THE TIGER TODAY...... THE LEOPARD STILL IS THE INVISIBLE STRONGER BREED OF CAT....? GOOD SET UP, ON BOTH CARS. AND I LOVE TIGER'S
The Peugeot 208 Pikes Peak was the best tarmac rally car ever created. It was driven by the best rally driver ever created. That record-setting lap was peak motorsport history. I don’t think things get any better than that.
la 205 c'est pas que Pikes peak, c'est le Dakar et surtout le Rallye! incomparable pour moi! la 205 c'est une légende!
c'est vrai , la 205 ça reste une Légende.. une vraie "Formule 1" des pistes .. ;)
Of course!!!!!!
Oui un paragon stupide la 205 t16 etait une rally car groupe b . Je m'excuse pour le francais mal ecrit . Vive la 205 t16 ensemble a la lancia delta S4 e 037 sans oublier l'Audi A1!!!! Ciao!
Audi s1 pardon
Avec la 405 Pike's Peak la comparison aurait été differente
Pure perfection... What a video!!! 208 is a speed beast (it looks almost sped up) but my heart 💓 has to go with the 205 😁👍
La 205 est tellement belle c’est hallucinant... un style qui n’a même pas vieilli !
Si, ça a vielli comme le bon vin ;)
Comme la 306.
De vraies tueries !!
I'd take the 205. Its a classic.
Amennn !!! Just has to have a little more power + a little bit more Widened body/wheels :-)
@@kopronko like the 205 t16 pikes peak version then?
Mmm
0:09 the face of de comisari, like ....Not bad the 205
I thought the same
;-))
Like : I must have one 🤣
La différence ? La 205 = légende !
Dans 10 ou 20 ans on dira pareil de la 208, légende !
FUCK SHIT le pikes peat avant c’était 50 terre 50 asphalte mettez la 208 dessus elle vaut rien pour moi la vrai légende c’est vatanen avec sa 405 t16 Léon c’est rien à côté
Bah en même temps elle était spécialement conçue pour ça
La 205 reste la légende incontestable
La 205 Turbo16 est un must dans le genre et elle à démontré ça polyvalence c'est la reine de ça catégorie
Pas vraiment. C'était la S4.
Cette 208 a de quoi rentrer dans la légende, une vrai petite bombe
Sitting there all day just to see a 205 for 1,8 sec? Sounds like fun
La 205 est parfaite pour allumer un Barbecue, la 208 pour arriver vite a Celui ci 😉
Magnifique cette 205 ❤️
I love that 205 truly a legend in rally history and i think it might be harder to control then that 208 but besides that , very nice video👍🏻👌🔥
Truly a unique opportunity to see two incredible machines at one event.
One is rally legend while other one is hillclimb monster and undoubtedly modern hillclimb legend as well.Thank you for this.Also,i really like the ending.
Le son du t16 dans la 205/405....Je ne m'en lasserai jamais ! 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Elle marche encore bien cette petite 205 T16. Ces 2 voitures sont quand même rentrées dans la légende.
I've seen the 205 T16 rallying in the flesh, gorgeous, always going to be my favourite.
Peugeot was, is and always will be one of the Greats!
They were lucky to have Jean Todt as a team manager during Group B, he knew Audi was one hell of a threat...
WBRos59 well, the race cars at least. Their sensible road cars are pretty terrible.
Augusto O.R I agree, but they sell and thats what keeps manufacturers churning out epic race cars and specials.
“Peugeot was, is and always will be one of the Greats!”
**coughs**
>
@@Dragoneer that black eye is forever there in the peugeot catalogue..
French here, FYI Sebastien Loeb bought the 208 t16, so he can use it anywhere he wants whenever he wants
That's so cool
So he now personally owns it?That's a cool thing
Yep, of course i guess it comes with a Peugeot technician team, but it's his that he can keep at his home
How much he paid for it?
It’s not street legal
Sauf que la 205 est et restera une légende !
oui mais la 208 reste et restera une legende car il n y en a qu une et que loeb a l epoque a exploser le record de pikes peak de 1min30 et il a aussi l un des meilleurs temps a la monte de goodwood et il a gagner en 2014 quand il y etait
Incomparable, la 205 et la 406 t16 . Loeb dit lui même qu’il ne pourrait pas faire se qu’ils ont fait.
La seul différence c’est l’époque . Aujourd’hui les jeune ne savent même plus régler une carbu .
Leur voiture sont branchés à un pc pour gagner 40 ch a l’époque t’ouvrait ton moteur et tu savait se qu’il a été fait . Maintenant c’est que du Jacky.
Et navrée mais pikes peak , c’est la 405 , route en terre , des couille , la main pour esquiver le soleil . Ça c’est l’histoire .
@@valentindiallo6642 haha j'adore ton commentaire Valentin !
@VY A.L.M c'est vrai, et on reprochait déjà aux voitures des années 1980 d'être "trop technologiques" en comparaison de celles des années 1960.
On verra en 2030 ce qu'on dira !
En tout cas je fais pas le hipster, les voitures d'avant, c'est cool, les voitures actuelles, aussi ! Tant que ça va vite ça me branche !
@@valentindiallo6642 Monsieur Vatanen ... !
Two legend cars!:)
I liked the era when rally cars were based on street cars. Nowadays it's only a shell that looks a bit like the street version.
Juan Carlos Damonte Umm...have you ever seen the Metro 6R4 or the Delta S4? XD
I like the street version of the groupe b cars, lol
The Group B weren't based on street cars 😂
They were obligated to make 200 units
@@elazotacunaos4752 Yes, but these limited series were much closer to the normal production models than moderns WRC are with any road legal model.
@@DragoneerThe Lancia 037, Stratos, the Renault 5 Turbo, Peugeot 205 T16, Audi Quattro, and a lot more are related to road legal versions of the normal cars. At least much closer than modern WRC.
I'm glad I found this channel
Très simpa la vidéo.. les même virages . Juste 20 ou 30 ans qui sépare les 2 passages.. vraiment cool .. la 208 envoie du lourd
sympa en effet sauf que c est bien la meme année (observez bien le public)et que cela se passe en France
Both two are nice machine!!! 👌😊👍
Impresionante ... El primer tramo largo (no será ni un quilómetro) que se ve, el 205 lo hace en 11 segundos y el 208 Peak en 8...
205 et 208.
Plus la même planète, je suis du genre à aimer les anciens bolides, R5, 205, Delta, Alpine, etc...
Seen both of these luckily enough. Saw Loeb throught the 208T16 up Goodwood its difficult to think of a more vivid representation of sheer acceleration than thay thing
And the escudo ? XD
My goodness! Those machines, man...
Entre la 208 et la 205, je crois que je me retrouverai coincé comme l'âne de Buridan: d'un côté la technologie, la vitesse, la puissance et de l'autre l'histoire, la légende, le plaisir. Aaaah quel dilemme ....
La 205 pouvait être encore plus puissante que la 208, en baissant la régulation de la wasegate et en jouant sur l'avance, la 205 peut plafonner à 800/900ch. Et la vitesse aussi, la 208 ne va pas à plus de 250km/h, et certaines boîtes de rallye pour des rallye à grande vitesse était assez longues, et ça poussait à 230/240kmh à fond.
Felisito ...A la firma danielsson por tan buena preparacion como el 205 del año 1991 para colombia... Y Gracia por aver hecho la mecanica los 2 primeros años y saludos a mi amigo ,philict phyer...ingeniero electricista de su momento, que Dios nos vendiga y exitos a todos por estar con tangrade firma...
Like a grandfather with his wisdom and experience, and his grandson with his youthful vigor and energy
the speed difference was night and day
The 205 is a car build for rallying and is a lot older the 208 is probably purposely build for hillclimb racing so it would make sense
Aero has changed over the years.
THAT SOUND. Gotta love the 205...
INCOMPARABLE
Proud to own a 1991 1.9gti that now lives in Charente Maritime with us and our husky Odin.Had the car for 16years up till now and have no plans to part with it any time soon.
Will go with the 205 over it’s younger brother mainly because back in the 80s group B was the panicle of rallying.
Here in France our “pug” turns more than it’s fair share of heads as we tour around the area.If you find one,buy it,without hesitation.Then you will know what it’s all about.
Both are horrendously fast and each of us would pee his pants in the navigator seat. The 205 is the legend.
Un sacré numéro cette 205 !
Quelle pêche cette 208 !!!
What a legend this 205! here in senegal it seems the most loved and strongest car cuz people are driving it like their working car like clandestin cab. I think here are so much running 205 than everywhere in the world
Amazing to see the comparison. Original looks stunning as ever but then the 208 appears like a UFO stalking it down.
Magique ! grandiose
205 T16 any day of the week! What a machine what a sound glorious!!!
would take both of them for a ride, completaly different mentallity on those, the 208 is a reccord breaker machine, the 205 is a rally legend with a proper manual gearbox, just perfect vehicles!
Natural evolution at it's best.
Can't say I'd pick one over the other, they're both great.
Incredible machines. 👍
To be fair they should be both pikes peak editions... Just saying
La 205 un mythe... une déesse des circuits
Encore heureux que la 208 est plus rapide elle est plus ressente mais jamais elle ne restera dans l histoire comme la 205 😉
La 208 et ressente
jeux par le fran sé de puit une époke ressente. Mon dieu.
@FUCK SHIT calme toi le francais
La competencia Pikes Peak, era mucho mejor, al menos para el público, cuando el camino era de tierra.
Con el asfalto perdió mucha "espectacularidad". Hay un video de Ari Vatanen subiendolo ( en un Peugeot 405, creo) antes de ser asfaltado que es espectacular.
C’est là qu’on vois toutes l’évolution apporter à l’auto
Nessas corridas mais corajosos que os pilotos são os espectadores...
405 T16 for Pikes Peak
I was saying wow flames from the old Peugeot but the newer one I was like no flames then 1:53
That 205 noise 😏
I'd take the 205 in a heartbeat.
Incomparable sur quasi tout les points.
La 208 a la puissance et la vitesse, la 205 à une âme 😎
Dire que ça été créé y a 35 ans ça me rend dingue
la 208 a aussi une âme🙃
Peugeot 205 T16, lo mejor de la historia del Rally
The 205 Turbo 16 will always be my favourite rally car, however i cannot argue that the 208 is an absolute ballistic missle!
I would still take the 205, its legendary car back then.
beautiful 205 !
effrayant la vitesse à laquelle ils negocient le parcours
Both very impressive, 208 insanely fast! But I'd rather the T16!
They both are t16
@@josgre547 205 t16 is the real deal.
@@bojanstojanovic5465Both are real deal.
De la bombe
i like the 205 as a collector item and for a Goodwood event to show the car. However if i am competing in the timed shootout, 208 all day.
I'd save the 208 in my Garage, and the 205 in my heart!
Driving them both in VR. The 208 makes you feel like a passenger inside the car whereas the 205 makes you feel the car is under YOUR control. I'd take the 205 any day!
205 a driver's car, big balls offset advances in technology..👍
Carro lindo o 208. É uma canhão
Peugeot!!!!❤😆
Superbe video.
C'était pour quelle occasion?
Ça tue
Bello👍👍
208 is driven by a different driver who obviously has much better control over the car, he isn’t afraid to enter the corners at higher speeds as we see in the video
208 also has a huge-ass spoiler and body kit that provides unbelieveable amount of downforce
205 is much lighter and would be a monster in the hands of a good driver
And a bigger turbo.
... I would choose 205 ... :) Friendly grets to France from Germany
Macchine mostruose, gente ignorante che si mette dove non deve stare...come sempre
I think the 205 would or could be made to go a lot lot faster if he crashed his 205 getting parts is near on impossible where as the 208 parts even though its a special would be easier to make or get hold of. The 205 t16 is a priceless artifact and must be treated as such. Long live the greatest era in motorsports history even if its in books videos or just in our minds the 80s where the greatest time in history music cars and life in general.
the 205 is a real rally car, made in the time when all those powerful group b machines were fighting all over the world, with proffesional pilots and no electric help from nowhere, it was all turbo and two great hands to control the beast, besides, peugeot wan the 1986 year ....
208 front end looks like an happy bastard. 205 is that tame older brother who barely smiles but an absolute beast.
I had a 19 GTI back in the day, oh gosh! Not a patch on the T16 but still a shit load of 2liter engine in a Hot hatch! Used to race my ole mate in another Frenchie..... R 5 Gt turbo! Was always close as! Not forgetting my other Pal Dan in another classic the UNO ie Turbo what a car too! Boom! 1995 ish I think....
208 is a Monster!!!!
Jean Christian Duby 205 t16 champion de France de la montagne
Got to admire the speed of the 208 but the best fun and most skilful drive no doubt is the 205. You feel like you actually contribute more than just holding on to the steering wheel!
Les gens qui disent que la 208 n'as pas d'âme..
Sérieusement on parle pas d'une 208 GTI de série la.
In the h2h comparison of the new technology vs. classic machine the edge other than technological one is the fact no one dares to drives these classics nowhere near the edge as they are so rare and practically indispensable.
damn that 208 was quick as hell
Old 205 Have a Soul he talk look im going fast , 208 t16 .. no soul looks like a video game ...
"Petite" différence de puissance et quelques décennies de technologies aérodynamiques font évidemment la différence...mais la 205 c'est une légende !
Peugeot 205 T16, the best rally car no doubt. Period
pour reprendre une formule célèbre : ça c'est la Grosse Patate ;))
If Mr Peugeot walked up to me with these two and said "Bonjour, which would you like uh he uh!?"... 205 T16 in a blink.
Ce n'est pas une 205 Turbo 16 Pikes Peak mais une de rallye. C'est celle que Michel Mouton a piloter au Tour de Corse en 1986
Michèle svp, c'est une femme :p
Conceptos distintos. Uno para rallye y otro para asfalto. Y años de evolución.
La 205 on en parle et on en parlera tjrs.. et elle a son charme. La 208.. oui ça va vite.. tout électronique.. assistances.etc
The 205 is a legend, but you have to be out of your mind to disrespect a beast like the 208
the 205 with a rallye kit looks amazing
La 205 è tanta roba❤❤❤❤❤❤
da brividi
@@catena744 ci puoi contare.....questi sono cavalli
Elle envoie grave la 205 '.
Magique'..
El 205 es la esencia y es el mito.