Bare Shaft Tuning: Getting the most Forgiveness out of Your Set Up
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2019
- Bare Shaft tuning will help you get the most accurate and forgiving tune out of your set up. In this video I'll show you my process.
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What distance were you at when you shot bare shaft through paper?
This is absolutely the best way to "super tune" your arrow flight. You did an excellent job of explaining it!
I can't tell you how helpful this video was. I watched several others that were similar, but nobody painted such a clear picture of the steps to take and what to look for. I was going back and forth from my garage to my computer after each couple shots and re-watching bits of this until I was shooting bullet holes. THANK YOU!
Great job! I especially enjoy the no music aspect of your videos. Too many youtubers seem to think they need to play annoying background music WHILE they are talking. Thank you for keeping it real!
Great point.
Getting a new bow and set-up and it's a great time to revisit this video. I find when using this method I'm also solid or things go more smooth when I attach a fix blade and broadhead tune.
Great video. One of the best I've seen on bareshaft tuning.
Perfect way to do it. A lot of people stop at paper tuning, and this really illustrates that's a starting point and this is how to really dial it in.
Very good job explaining this have to say it made me run back to the shop and double check everything great channel
Thanks
This is the best breakdown. Always enjoy your videos
It's nice to see someone demystify the bare shaft syndrome ..... most will talk about it, but just don't explain how to fix ..... keep up the good work!!!!
Thank you! Feel free to reach out if you have any questions. Keep it in the middle
This helped an old guy remember how I did this yrs ago...sadly I quit shooting for a while and forgot a lot.. nice refresher
Your videos are awesome. Keep up the good job.
Favorite video thus far!
Also, tune with the release you plan to use. A different release can change your tuning. Even more noticeable when going from a trigger release to a hand held release. But two release of the same style, but different make can also make your arrows fly different.
And for those who will do nothing but shoot indoor 300's and shooting 20 yards only, your bow will be a tad more forgiving if you paper tune a tad nock high.
Excellent video, I am going to bare shaft tune my bow Thanks to this video
Great stuff!! You made a believer out of me!
I just found this. This is awesome. Thank you.
Man I know this video is old but I have a triaxx and I followed this video exactly and tuned my bow that I thought was already tuned , taking note to where everything was at just incase I had to move everything back ,but when I was finished I screwed on a 125 Gn magnus black hornet and from 30 yards cut my plum bob string into and after a few more shots I’m amazed how my Broadheads fly (exactly like my field points ) thanks man for the great information
Man your videos are great! Very useful information and very well explained! Thanks for the tips!
Thanks! Feel free to reach out with any questions
@@InsideOutPrecision Thanks man will do. I have the same bow and loving it. Bare shaft tunned it to perfection using your info 👊
I was wondering...why you don't use a back bar for hunting?
Awesome job on this video!
Thanks for all the videos - you just earned a sub!
Just used this video for a reference. Got rid of my nightmare QAD HDX and went back to a Trophy Ridge Kill Shot Whisker Biscuit. Paper tuned, then walk back tuned as I began sighting in shooting a bare shaft as I moved back. As you said, if it's paper tuned it will be real close. 2 fletch, one bare tight, tight groups every time. Never touched the rest on the way back. Thanks for your time.
Excellent video blog, Continue the beneficial work. Thanks a lot.
Thanks! Glad you're finding the channel helpful 👍
your channels fucking awesome man. answers so many questions that seem so hard to answer. Ive got this PSE and its just shooting twirly arrows like curly fries or something. just so many things wrong with it. ill take it to the proshop and get it tuned and then ill do these fine adjustments myself as my proshop has a range of about less than 8 yards haha.
Great vid keep it up
Really good video! I bare shaft tune and don’t even worry about paper tuning with fletched shafts. Would like to see how your broad heads fly after a tune like this.
Agreed. My fixed blades fly right with my field points out to about 70yds, then start impacting low. But that's because there's more drag
I really like the video, I have a question on bare shaft being mock right or left, if you shoot a bareshaft with a fletched arrow and nock of the bareshaft is right with the impact of the arrow being right of the fletched arrow, should you go back to a bareshaft arrow to get it as straight as possible before fletching?
If it’s close, , do you just fletch, shoot to watch grouping and then micro adjust your rest as you did?
Really well explained, thank you.
What would you suggest after having your bow tuned, and your 1st 20 yard shots to
sight in are 50-50 such as 1 shot will be center bulls eye and the other miss the entire bag by 3ft
Thank you. Great vid!
Very informational. Thank you. There is a lot of "bad" info out there on this subject. Thanks for helping clear this up. Is there any reason to bare shaft tune beyond 20 yards?
It's hard to be accurate enough beyond 20 yard to tell you anything.
Do you dynamic tune your arrows? Just learned about this and it tightened up my groups immediately. Love your videos! Thanks for all the info.
Yes, "spining" ( dynamic tuning ) definitely helps, especially with small diameter shafts. It ensures they all cone out the bow flexing the exact same way. Thanks for watching man, good shooting to you!
Great information. It would be helpful if you would explain that these adjustments are for a left handed
shooter and how these adjustments would change if you are shooting right handed. Keep up the good work.
No the rest movements are the same whether you're rigjt or left handed
❤ Great explanations.
I know this video is two years old but you do a great job explaining tuning! Anyways I ordered the new bowtech solution and haven’t gotten it yet but can I use the deadlock cams to adjust rather than my rest?
Yes, thats how you tune those
I paper tune my bows and got a perfect bullet hole from 8 feet all the way to 40 yrds I only shoot mechanical broadheads would I have to do a bare shaft tuning.
Like that. Thanks.......maybe show how to tune broadheads and field tips to shoot together....Thanks.
Fixed broadheads will shoot like field tips using this method of tuning. Once you're tuned in this method you will have no worries.
So I nock tuned my arrows through paper and had a consistent high tear. I lowered my knocking point and shot bullet holes with all 6 arrows. I then fletched one arrow and shot it through paper and I’m getting a low right tear but my bare shafts still shoot bullet holes? What’s the reason for this?
Thanks for the great content you share! I can get bullet holes fletched and bare shaft at about 4 yrds then when I step back to 10 yrds I'm nock high. Adjust rest up to hit bullets again but then I'm nock low back in at 4 yrds.. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
I’m having the same issue.
@@jeremyanderson5752 I watched other videos which talked about how paper tuning at 5 yrds is optimal. Further back is giving the arrow too much time to react to the forces applied to it giving misleading results. Depending of course on many factors including spine, tip weight and draw weight. I paper tuned at 5 yrds and moved on. I'm shooting 6" groups at 60 yrds. I feel like I should focus on my form now at trust my setup. Cheers!
Have you checked vane clearance? Sharpie on rest and check for Mark's on flethings.
What kind of string do you have on that bow? I want to know what NOT to run....I don't like to fix peep position every time i shoot.
I have been bare shaft tuning for quite some time now. Trying different spines and weight up front. When I think I have it and I start shooting bullet holes, I end up shooting that same set-up again and find that I can’t get bullet holes. I fletched an arrow recently that was getting bullet holes and now that it’s fletched it’s getting right tears. I know it’s obviously my form changing or being inconsistent, and as much I try to get consistent it is still off. When do you say call it good? I’m driving myself crazy over here!
You might want to try showing with arrows on an overview shot what you’re talking about versus wiggling your hand around
great video. i really wish i could come to your shop since you really know what youre doing. this stuff can be a bit daunting for the laymen archer
Nice video, all your stuff is great. The only thing I would recommend is adding a bit of electrical tape wrapped around the back of your bare shaft. This will add the same weight on the back of your arrow to match up with your fletchings and arrow wrap. Not that I would be able to shoot good enough that this would come into play while bare shaft tuning for me... :).
Love your videos. Do you use more than one bare shaft arrow? Is it necessary to nock tune? I ask this because I am finding that bare shaft tuning can be difficult, or finicky. Thanks for your help.
Nock tuning can help define the stiffer side of the arrow... This is ubertuning though, you need to be good good to be able to even tell... If your having trouble effectively bareshaft tuning you either have a bow tune issue or a form issue...bare shaft tuning, nock tuning require a tuned bow and rock solid shooting form and are at the end of the process...you dont just go out and shaft tune.
Okay I have a question I am having issues trying to tune my Hoyt torrex compound bow. It's almost like no matter what I do the spine of my arrows seem to still be too weak but at the same time I can't tell if it's just the arrow is not knock turned or if my bow is not in tune. Where should I start any comments would be greatly appreciated
I have a bear Devergent eko that paper tunes a 300 spine and a 350 does fine bare shaft but my pse drive 3B only does good with 350 spine the 300 leaves a bad tear. I'd like to go heavier. Peace Leo
How do you account for difference between arrows in your quiver? If they are not all spine aligned, how do you know your 1 bareshaft arrow is what you should be making decisions on?
Simple. Use the spine aligned arrow to tune. Once youve got bullet holes fletch the rest and shoot. If they don't group well or have clean flight rotate the nock to different positions until they're shooting good. It's called nock tuning
OK I have some questions for you. I've been playing around with this a bit and am not having the same results on my VXR 28.
I paper tuned my bow and got it shooting bullet holes with bare shaft and fletched arrow at 6' and 5 yards.
I went outside and started at 20 yards and after my left and right adjustments, the bare shaft and fletched shaft were hitting together with the bare shaft no more than 1/4" higher than the fletched arrow. I figured this was due to the bare shaft being a bit lighter with no fletchings.
I then stepped back to 30 yards and my bare shaft hits about 2" higher than the fletched shaft. At 40 yards its about 5" so it keeps climbing as I step back further.
I moved my rest down and it improved a bit but only to a certain point. From there on, the bare shaft and fletched arrow point of impact move together with any adjustments of the rest and the bare shaft stays at about 4" higher than the fletched shaft and they don't get any closer. What am I doing wrong here? Thanks.
You have to think the weight of the
Fletching and glue etc. Are going to add weight which will give you a greater gap at distance
How about what to look for when buying a used bow?
I had bought a used bow from a reputable dealer in Dec that had replaced strings and limbs so I thought it was good to go but this last weekend one of my cables broke which basically blew the limbs, cams and mods apart, had it been hunting season i could have been SOL. Luckily i was shooting at a dealer shop and he had all new parts and was able to get me going again. What do others do in this situation if it was to happen to you? Do a lot of people have back up bows just in case?
Unfortunately most companies only honor their warranty with the original buyer. That really sucks that happened to you though, usually a used bow is legit!
@@InsideOutPrecision Yea I know most companies only warranty new bows. I consider myself lucky that I was only into this NO CAM for $80 before it broke so getting it fixed was still a no brainer. I was just thinking that other people may benefit (especially new archers) from a video on what to look for if they are buying a used bow.
When bareshaft tuning at distance should you pay attention to what the shaft is doing in flight? So I shoot a bareshaft that bullet holes at like 3 feet and 6 feet. Then I take it outside to see if bareshafts and fletched group together. They group together but my bareshafts will be flying tail left or right. Enough you can see it and it is flying at an angle through the air. Is that just normal due to not having the vanes or no?
Question? Since I shoot the new Bowtech with the ability to adjust my upper and lower cam left or right. When tuning my bow, do I need to move my arrow rest. I understand about porpoising of knocking point! Thank you my friend Excellent Video!
No don’t touch your rest. Just move the cams
how do i know if my spine is right and when to move rest or cut arrows
What about checking your shaft stiffness or weakness when bare tuning?
You mentioned in beginning and never talk on it. I run a 350 VAP SS. 65lb. 250 up front. 510 gn total.
first shot you moved the rest to the left when the fletched arrow was on the right of the bare shaft. next you shot the bare shaft to the right of the fletched arrow and you move the rest to the left. am I missing something?
He said it backwards then what it was shooting. Nock high left he said right.
what did the paper look like after you walked it back?
Hi, what's wrong when the arrow tail is high with bare arrow?
Do u mind having a nock low (I.e arrow pointed up) to get rid of a low bare shaft (high tear)?
Stephane Piat good question. I have my powermax set ~1/8” nock low, otherwise my bottom cam needs to be advanced to the point where the wall gets mushy
My question is after paper tuning I get a bullet hole but then when I check my center shot doing walk back tuning I have to make rest adjustments, won’t this knock off my paper tune in the process?
What means if i get bullet hole with bare shaft and paper tear with fletched arrow?
Great video !
What type paper are you using ?
Do you sell it ?
Most people use waxed butchers paper, the same stuff that is used for wrapping briskets and the like in bbq. the waxed paper only shows true tears
After paper tune.long distance do I just move my sight only
So when adjusting your rest you move toward the tear vertically and away from the tear horizontally?
I have a Right Hand Traverse and keep on getting a tail left. My initial thought was spine but from 250 up to 340 I get same tail left. I have the centre shot at 13/16. I had it that you move the rest to the left if you have a tail left but from your video it seems that I need to move it right. In my case this will bring the rest closer to the riser and that can result in vane contact.
How much closer to the riser can I move centre shot? Will swapping top hats help? Looking at the cams from behind the bow the spacing of the top cam is basically even. Bottom cam is much more to the left almost touching the limb. Itis not that I’m new to the sport. Got my national colors last year in IBO and was the over-all winner of the South African Bow Hunters Association’s 3D shoot in the Fixed Blade Broadhead class. That was with my Bowtech Insanity CPXL. I though I know how to tune a bow.... but I’m not getting the Traverse to where I want it. Specs, 65#, 31.5” DL. Arrows at 31” with 50gn inserts and 100gn tips. Blazer vanes 2” x 3 and Bohning double lock nock and 300 spine. Most charts and calculators indicate 300 spine. Need some guidance. Thx Vick
Keep your center shot at 13/16. Left tear, move your cam to the left with top hats first. Rest goes to the right only on final micro adjustment. Cams follow the tear, rests go opposite tears.
how far are you standing away from the paper?
Kellem where does the brown paper come from? Is it packing paper for shipping purposes?
We just get it at office max
Please do a spine selection video... For compounds there's very little out there
I actually have a video where I talk about arrow spine! If you have any specific questions though I'd be happy to answer them!
@@InsideOutPrecision I've had a look at the spine video and understand arrow spine and how to select and tune arrows as I've shot olympic recurve and can bareshaft + paper tune my recurve bow and also use the Easton chart to pick a suitable shaft for tuning
However with my compound I've not been getting decent groups and for the past few days I've been trying to paper tune but can't seem to get a tail right high tear out
At 30" - 6 feet from the paper I almost get a bullet hole, sometimes nock height is level but I get a slight right tear other times nock high right tears..... I've shot with the string away from my face just incase it was face contact on the string but there was very little difference... At short distances I can get the bullet hole
I've moved the rest, adjusted the rest height and tension on the rest from super stiff to almost holding the arrow weight... But if I step back say 5 yards I get nock high right tear... I can fine tune the nock high but not the nock right as the tear is around 2"+
I've shot with open relaxed hand and normal grip with a finger sling
I've even cranked the bow down 6 turns to reduce the weight but no difference and shot with and without stabilisers
I've shortened my drawlength from 27" to 26.5" but the only difference is I feel cramped on the 26.5" so have gone back to 27" otherwise I have to raise my bow shoulder to accommodate the shorter drawlength, with the 27" my release elbow is a little low but the shots are consistent because I can get the shafts to touch at 10 yards... I can draw level and bring the hand to anchor without craning my neck to find the peep so it feels comfortable and can handle the bow weight
(my recurve I shoot 26.5" drawlength and 47# on the fingers)
I've shot pulling hard into the stop to having just enough pull to hold it in the valley, no difference other than the feeling of the shot... Using a thumb release truball max pro 4... I can trigger it using my thumb or pull through the shot using arm/back tension with my thumb wrapped around the trigger
I have a PSE stinger extreme, draw weight approx 50# (measured at 49.6# using my digital scale)
My arrows are Easton XX75 platinum plus... 2016 at 29" and Easton XX75 platinum plus... 2013 at 28"... I think the point weight is the standard nibb that's around 70grn
The 2013 show less of a right tear but still nock high
Shooting with the fletch and bareshafts at 10 yards.. Unfortunately that's all I have at home I can get the arrows to group within an inch of each other and the bareshaft lands left of the fletched arrows with nock kicked up within an inch of the group
If I watch the arrow flight there is a kick right of the nock which shows up on the paper tune at around 5 yards
The only thing I haven't tried is cutting down the shafts to 27"... I have an arrow saw so can try that but if the arrow isn't right, then will that help?
Are the arrows weak or stiff... Kinda hard to work out for compounds... Recurve finger release its a stiff reaction
The cable guard has enough fletch clearance approx 1/8 of an inch+... I've also tried moving that
Arrow is level and centre shot as close to straight as I can get it
The question is how do I use the chart... Do I use the ATA bow rating 316 with my drawlength and draw weight to select the spine group or do I need to buy a chronograph and measure the speed at my drawlength
I'm interested in target compound and not hunting and would like to progress further with this.. Just having a hard time at the moment getting consistent groups out to 18m/20 yards at the club
@@b12khx89 whoo, that is a lot to take in. What kind of rest are you running? For a right handed shooter a tail right/high tear that won't leave is usually a sign of too stiff an arrow. Try increasing point weight. The rest will have a lot to do with it as well. Cable driven drop aways sometimes don't support the arrow long enough for bows with nock travel, which the stinger does.
@@InsideOutPrecision the rest is an avalon tec one rest... Nothing fancy but I did try and move it to tune and it ended up looking like the arrow was pointing away from the bow more than my recurve has ever done so I've gone back to all square
I'm still working on my form and using my old recurve arrows in the meantime, the XX75 platinum plus are limited for different points with heavier weights so kinda stuck there... I'm not shooting compound for competition yet but would like to get better so tested it via the paper tune as I can see weird arrow flight if I watch the arrow
I wondered how you would use the Easton guide to select an arrow as it has different ATA speed ratings and using the bow weight and drawlength information it kinda puts me in T6/T7...which is probably wrong
I am working on getting a form video done for you... The UK weather is getting better so I'll be in touch via your instagram
@@b12khx89 that rest could definitely be part of the problem. I'd try a limb driven drop away like the Vapor Trail Gen7. Also I'd recommend going to an all carbon arrow in a 400 spine cut at 27-27.5". As far as paper tuning, I generally just paper tune at 6-10 feet and get a bullet hole with a bare shaft and a fletched shaft, then shoot them at 20yds and micro adjust my rest until they hit together.
Definitely send me a video when you get a chance!
I wish I were a good enough archer to need to do this.
You can be just get out there focus on ur hand placement an everything else will fall into place maybe take ur bow to your local pro shop an make sure everything is in time an square thats a good starting point.
Do you paper tune the fletched shaft before adding the fletching?
If you bareshaft tune, is it necessary to check your center shot by doing modified French tuning or does your center shot get lined up when you bareshaft tune?
Do you have any experience with the trophy taker smackdown lockup rest? Seems like it would be a great hunting rest as long as it's reliable.
We have some on order, but haven't got to play with them yet. If it's similar to the cocking mechanism that rip cord or QAD uses, it's gonna have issues haha. But if it works it will be awesome!
@@InsideOutPrecision If you could do a review on them that would be great! I'd definitely get one if they are good to go.
So you moved the rest a CH to the bareshaft direction? The fletched arrow passed the bareshaft and you moved it left again?
When doing this method does it require the two arrows to be the exact same, just one with the fletchings and one without? (Same grams, length, etc)
James Marshall yes. You need your arrows to be identical for the most accurate results
Then when you use other arrows do you do the same process of micro tuning for all the arrows in your arsenal?
How far from your paper are you from the paper on your initial paper tune shots?
I’m looking to get more yards out of my setup. I’m shooting an HHA optimizer single pin and I get about 90-100 yards max. Does Spot Hogg max out at longer distances? FYI I practice longer distances by choice. Makes anything 50 and less so dang easy.
No, your max distance is pretty much determined by your peep height
Inside Out Precision that is great to know! My peep sight is currently too high to touch my nose to the string as a third anchor point... Moving it down about an inch would give me that third anchor point and possibly more distance? Thanks for the knowledge man, I’ve been watching all your videos and you have such great insight! Your videos have helped me out in so many ways, keep it up. Shout out from Edmonton, Alberta!
Do these adjustment techniques work well for recurve?
Man I wish I could tell you. Other than just playing around with the recurves we have at the shop, I've never spent time behind one.
I may have missed it...how many yards away from paper?
How do you know if the arrow shaft is too stiff-spined or not stiff enough for the bow strength/speed? Will you see a difference in bare shaft testing with two different shaft stiffnesses. I shoot at 62lbs from an RX1, trying to figure out if the 350 or 400 shaft is better for the tune-up with 13.33FOC, VAP TKO with outsert and 100gr tips.
Also, do you need to make sure the arrow weights are the exact same? Or, is the decreased fletching weight negligible?
The weight of the vanes is negligable. Generally you won't see a spine issue through paper unless it's way too stiff or too light. But if you get a bullet hole through paper and then your bare shaft impact way right or left of your fletched shaft, then you'll k ow you're too weak or stiff. What draw length are you shooting?
@@InsideOutPrecision I am shooting a 29 inch draw length.
How / when do you know if you need to change top hats around?
By what your tear looks like through paper. Leave the rest in center shot and move the cam right/left based on your tear.
Can i paper tune with only moving my rest? I dont have a bowpress to adding turns to the string is a no go at the moment. I did do it moving only the rest when i gott my bow, but just want to confirm that im doing it rigth.
Yeah you can, just won't be as forgiving with your rest way out of center
I have mathews trx 36 bought on ebay. did top hat tuning but both the cams are leaning out side. with hoyt hyperedge it was easy to make straight. how do I do with trx 36 it has no yoke
Well the moving the tops hats will lean the cams in order to tune. Worked the same way with your hoyt. Lean the cam right or left to take out a right or left tear through paper. It doesn't hurt anything. If its shooting good holes through paper just leave it alone
I am currently shooting the Hoyt RX1, my first bow ever but I’ve learned a lot with it and started building my own arrows but I want to do a new build with a Vertix. When I go in to the pro shop to get my bow and get it set up, should I take a couple arrows that I’m going to shoot, fletched and bare just to test both? And to be on the safe side take a Broadhead that I’m going to be running as well just to make sure everything checks out? Thanks
Yeah I'd take your arrows to tune it. Make sure they know what they're doing when it comes to bare shaft tuning. Some times they will make things worse if they don't know how to read it properly haha!
Inside Out Precision Oh man! I hope they do!😬
I’m pretty new to archery. I bought a diamond 320 from Scheels. When they set it up for peep sight and poundage should they have paper tuned it in.
That bow is pretty difficult to paper tune so they probably didn't take the time to.
Just got my 2003 Matthews Legacy back from a bare shaft tuning at my local bow shop. Still off with 1/4 inch tail high right. Shop owner said he maxed out the rest travel and its the best that he can do! Tell me more about swapping out the top hat on the cams please?
Well they should be using the yokes to tune, not the rest. After a couple twist in/out of the yokes you can move the rest but it's not the first move.
There are no top hats on that model. The Halon was the first model with top hats
I asked him about doing the yoke adjustments. He said his experience with the Matthews doing yoke changes causes cable wear problems. Im going to try shooting a less heavy FOC and if i cant get a bullet hole i will look for a Matthews dealer in my area.
Thank you
@@thomashood3748 yeah I've never seen any more or less wear on the cables from yoke tuning, but maybe he has!?
Question: wouldn't the high left rear not be because of the vanes not steering, but because you've taken about 18-24 grains of weight from the back of your arrow and weakened the spine a bit?
It would actually stiffen the spine, but I haven't ever had an issue with it. 18 grains would never be enough to effect a tear that bad
Bare shaft tuning and I'm Nock low what adjustment shld help this
Raise your rest or drop your nicking point
With the way you are explaining nock left and nock right will that change between right hand which i am and you being left handed
No its the same
I've got about an inch and half tail high tear thru a whisker biscuit so I can't adjust my rest, is there anything I can do to try and get the tear to tighten up.
That’s just kinda the deal with whisker biscuits. Not much you can do
What is ur arrow set up?
Soo in theory once your tuned and matching at 20y will your paper tune be out o wack? The way it looks is your just using it as a starting point. Also with my bowtech with duel yokes could I yoke tune the bareshaft and keep my center shot perfect?
Yes you can definitely use the yokes and not mess with the rest!! And yeah, paper tuning is usually just a starting point
I am wanting to bare-shaft tune, but not have been able to. What I am seeing is that from 0-30 my groups are as expected, however at 40-60 yards, my groups open up and are mostly horizontal stringing. What are your thoughts?
It's hard to say without seeing you shoot, but if your form is good/consistent, horizontal groups are usually a tuning or arrow spine issue.
My issue was a leveling issue between D-Loop and rest. My shop had it level, but my bow did not like that. I played with it today and now I am good on target all the way out to 60 yards. Thank you.
I’m trying to paper tune and I’m getting a weird tear. My center shot is on, I think I’m at the point of moving the top hats. Can I send some pictures of the tears?
Yeah just leave your rest centered and move top hats. That's how they're designed to be tuned
With bare shaft tuning, are there any vertical corrections? Or is bare shaft tuning just a left-right thing?
I have a vxr 28. Specs are 28/60 arrow is an easton da torch 330. I keep getting a nock low tear, I've tried lowering rest, raising nock point and nothing helps. The only way i can fix it is to make the bottom cam hit first and i know that's not the correct way to tune a bow, so what should I do to fix it? I have my own press and draw board.
Might try a weaker spine arrow
Do u add any weight to the back of the bs for vane weight or not bother?
I don't because 15 grains just isn't enough weight to mess with the spine of the arrow. If you were right on the bubble of having too weak of a spine, it MIGHT make a difference, but generally you won't see a difference.
Will you have to re do this with different arrows? Let’s say you go from Beman ICS 300’s to Easton axis 300’s same length etc.
not unless the diameter of the arrows is different enough that the "center" of the arrow on the rest is moved off center.
@@rickokain3853 No matter what the diameter of the arrow is, it's always going to be in the center of the V off the arrow rest.
@@nwbhc apologies I meant for height, even then it would only be small though.
Which arrow should I be using for hunting fletching or no fletchings?
Honestly this is more of a target archery tuning method. Get a bullet home from 5 yards with a fletch shaft and your broad heads should fly really well
AT WHAT DISTANCE ARE YOU PAPER TUNING....AND ARE YOU SHOOTING THROUGH AT MULTIPLE DISTANCES TO VERIFY
I know this is an older video, but what is that offset stabilers you have on this bow? Thanks
It's just a mount made by Mathews called the Static Side Bar Mount. It's nice because it offsets the weight of a full quiver
@@InsideOutPrecision thanks for the reply! I've been trying to find a simple offset mount for this. I'll take a look into that one!
Why do you paper tune with a fletched arrow first? In this case, it seemed like the fletched arrow lied to you a little. Why not start with bare shafts first? Thanks for the content.