Why don’t the English like this Football Club?
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and why mention Bury when Radcliffe are 2 divisions above them..
@@user-te1hi9rx7bbecause bury are A very well know. Established club
@@morganjones7741 thats your non factual opinion. the league tables show otherwise-they have only been establsihed since the start of the season. they had no club for 3 seasons
I was talking about buying Bury a few years ago when they actually bought Salford, Bury were still in the football league then x
@@TheLiverpolitan nice story bro...
Not hated as much as MK Dons. Salford earned their league position through playing football.
Yes I agree MK Dons will always be the most hated club. Unfortunately for them their founding was wrong. Nothing wrong with Salfords or the class of 92's actions in my eyes.
Earned it via being bankrolled by the class of 92. its not earned via hardwork.
@@dylantaylor9495 most football clubs in Europe which have shot up the leagues in recent times have done so through massive investment by their owners, few clubs can pull a Luton
@@dylantaylor9495 What about Sutton, Barrow, Harrogate, Forest Green, Morecambe and others?
Have any of them become league clubs without being bankrolled and just through hard work?
Is the Salford hate really just hating the Neville Brothers, Giggs and Beckham?
I really don't understand the hate for MK Dons. They have a cool stadium and they're doing OK in the football pyramid without threatening to be world beaters. Harmless enough.
Forgetting Salford City the most surprising stat mentioned here was Stockport County averaging 9000 a week. You've got to be impressed that a club thats average attendance was around 7000 in the 2nd tier a little over 20 years is averaging 9000 in the fourth tier now. Don't know how they've done it but huge respect, they certainly do know how to run a club.
Stockport have done more than salford ever have. ( I'm a salford fan ). Stockport fans are dedicated to the club due to the more success they have had than salford
plus they were in the sixth tier a few years ago. York City, Notts County and Stockport are massive for non-league
Yeah but in salford we have a massive club called Manchester united which is not even half an mile from Salford.
When i lived not far from stockport back in the early 80's friday night i'd go to country matchs with a few mates, never more then 2.5 to 3000 fans
Big place Stockport tbf though. Well over 250k people in the whole borough, not much smaller than Bolton really. Still impressive but there’s a lot of people in the town in general 👍🏼
For me changing the teams colours from orange to red does indicate that it's a vanity project for the class of 92 but what they spend their money on is their business and it does show their love of the game lives on.
Same here in Germany: The day I became a member of my football club, got tattoos of it, was the day, when 1860 Munich was relegated from second Bundesliga to lower league in 2017. Our loyalty and love to the Munich Lions broke into space and we went with 15.000 lads to some away days in this season.
Excellent.
Greetings from Australia and another 1860 fan.
As a bayern fan, I hope one day we can have the derby in the bundesliga again.
Germany does seem to have a lot of well supported teams in lower leagues. Is it because of the regular rise and fall phenomenon in your leagues?
0:57 had me go 😂😂
The 7-0 was just a fluke 😂
Someone needs to give this woman a contract. Amazing commentary, learnt new stuff and i live about a mile away from the peninsula 😂
100% agree Nieve is fast becoming a national treasure
Hopefully she makes a decent amount off youtube. Wouldn't trust a network to give her a show without forcing her to drop quality
Only if she maintains 100% of the creative freedom.
As one of the 140 who used to turn up before the money was put in I’ve got nothing to lose. If it all goes to pot there will still be a Salford City in one form or another… and I’ll probably be able to take my dog. Credit to the owners for doing so much off the pitch with their efforts in the Salford community. This is Salford. Not the most affluent place the UK and we have our problems. But seeing a younger generation of fans getting together and supporting their local team is great to see.
As for the ground, it’s blocked in by a school and houses on three sides and a protected moor on the other. Lack of parking and room to grow means that if the club is anymore successful it is likely that relocation will be necessary. So I’ll continue to buy a season ticket (£100 renewal for over 60’s 23/24 season). Even if the Class of ‘92 pull out I’ll thank them for the ride. It’s been great so far.
I continue to watch these excellent little documentaries with excellent storytelling, despite never really been a huge football fan. You are a bloody amazing content creator, tv execs should really take note, quality like this is why I don't often switch to live tv. 👍🏻❤️
Seconded! I've become so much more informed about the lower divisions and some really special smaller clubs from these vids!
I live in Australia and don't even support football over here - for some reason I can't get enough of this channel. Its brilliant. Great little bites of life that I love seeing, even if it has very little to do with me.
Us poms are very passionate about our football teams, like it's another religion and we bleed our teams colours when we win or lose. If we imergrate we still follow and support our team it's in our DNA. I now call Perth Western Australia home but still stay up Saturday night/ early Sunday morning following the Gills. ❤
62 away supporters for Salford at my club last year, less than two hours away, on a Saturday afternoon. There simply isn’t the support base for Salford and never will be, so the bubble will burst one day.
It's upto Salford to go out and perform to gain more fans
100% Just isn't the fanbase for the club and no amount of ex-United players buying ownership stakes will ever change that.
Yeah that is a good point and hard to disagree with.
The bubble will not burst.
Remember Manchester City ?
Salford City will be like Manchester City or even more in the near future.
@@akoznasovajusername lol
In 2014 I saw Salford lose to Harrogate Railway in the Northern Premier Division One. Now I watch them lose to Harrogate Town in league Two. The more things change the more they stay the same.
Tbf, Harrogate are actually a decent side and have exceeded expectations in League 2 this season with their style of play. Which is more than can be said about Salford... 👀
Makes a change Harrogate Town beating us given your miserable record against us since the Unibond Division One North days!
"Not half of some meat".....There is a touch of Philomena Cunk in you!! Your humour and comments are awesome.
Glad to see you're still using that board Nieve, happy birthday Diana!
Don't have an issue with Salford CIty. It's been 10 years and the class of 92 are still there. Most people with a vanity project would've got bored by now and would likely have given up. Leaving at best a club with no debts, or if they really stopped caring, would leave the club in financial ruin. I hope Salford get some more local support. It sounds like they deserve to.
I don't think we can talk about others giving up by now just yet, only because Salford have enjoyed nothing but success so far, and as long as they do so I don't see anyone giving up on them, regardless of how long they are there for.
We have to wait until an extended period of stagnation (which could be argued we are getting into now) or a setback like their first relegation. Only then will we see how much staying power these guys have.
Currently looking for new investment. Sounds like they’ve lost interest in the failed vanity project to me.
@@garymerrell352
I think the problem is that the Salford owners are willing and able to sustain big losses to fulfill their ambitions. This creates the situation that the other clubs need to spend big to compete, which then necessitates the need for an independent regulator
there are so many football clubs in england that I always thought that if you went into some bushes while walking you'd find a stadium on the other side like in this case lmao
I can only imagine they're looking at Wrexham and thinking "what are we doing wrong?"
Wrexham are a much bigger club who have spent the majority of their existence in the third tier. Salford are tiny.
@@johnmitchell2269That and Wrexham has more money
Pretty sure Peter Lim has more wealth than Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhaney combined@@Britishgeohistorian
Wrexham are actually a proper club for a start
Wrexham is the biggest city in north wales. It has an independent fan base to draw from whereas everyone that lives in Salford will just support one of the big Manchester clubs.
You're my favorite football content creator. Interesting stories, humor, same love for football. You rock!
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Most hated is a big stretch. MK Dons aka Franchise FC are easily the most hated. Salford earned their place by winning games. Some people may dislike the financial aspect of the club, but I have never heard anyone say they dislike Salford.
Lots of people dislike them. Not nearly as many as Milton Keynes but far more than most clubs.
Really a shame how mk came to exist they could have done the same as Salford as I believe there already was a club in existence in about the 8th tier at the time got a lot of conflicted views on it with it being my local
If I lived in the greater Manchester area (I Don't) I would go and support Bury.
Another great video..I love your dry humour and informative quirkiness..
Loving all your content but we need mooooore.
Keep up the top top work girl.
One of the worst away days I’ve ever had, treated us really poorly.
On the flip side, the best ever away day was up the road at FC United who couldn’t do enough for us and were the nicest people.
Delusional.
How can it be delusional when it’s fact?
purely out of curiosity, what club are you referring to, and in what capacity (I guess you're a fan) ?. Cheers.@@MrWorfy99
I’m a Solihull Moors supporter but I’ve also been a fan of Manchester United for over 50 years so have no gripe with the class of 92.
On the day of the game it was cold and wet, the announcer kept telling us what wonderful food was available in the home end when all we had was a miserable little kiosk selling soggy burgers.
If we asked anyone from Salford for advice or help all we got was a grunt and a wave of the hand.
We were just made to feel totally unwelcome and it’s a ground I’d definitely think twice about visiting again.
Oh…… and we (deservedly) lost the game.
@@magicalgores3416 Can you expand on that?
I personally have nothing at all against Salford City, it's owners, Club or fans, At the end of the day the Class of 92, saw an opportunity to invest in a Local Football Club and back it as a Business.
So long as they abide by the same rules as the Rest of the League then.......Carry On. The Club Stays viable. The fans Can Support Their Club, Everyone's Happy!! Great Video Nieve, Keep Up The Great Work😄
Great video. My own team Leyton Orient were in the National League at the same time as Salford City (2018-19 season), we got promoted to League Two at the same time, Leyton Orient from being champions and Salford through the play-offs. I didn't like them when they beat us 3-0 at Brisbane Road and almost derailed our return to the League, but aside from that I don't mind them, if they had been a West Ham ex-player vanity project then that would have been a different matter...
When they beat AFC Fylde ,another club that divides opinion, at Wembley there was less than 10,000 there . Make of that what you will
Official attendance was 8,049, half of what Boreham Wood and Tranmere got the previous year.
Solihull v Grimsby in 2022 got almost 23,000, while Notts v Chesterfield was over 38,000. Torquay v Hartlepool didn't manage 7,000, but that was at Ashton Gate, which is a long way (ie 280 miles) from Hartlepool.
I’ve made of that that Wembley is a very big ground. What’s your point?
@@coops1964 They should have played it at a neutral ground between the two clubs , a small club ground like say Ewood Park
They should have played the game at Blackburn.
Really love your mini documentaries on different Football clubs Nieve you are bossing it as always and i really love the EFL and Non League so much 😊
Great Vid as always. Love these pieces on smaller clubs
I love the auto generated subtitles saying 'post match the training' for 'post match adrenaline'.
your board behind you is always funny
I thought I was the only one to notice 😊
Diana Ross turned 80 last week. How is that possible?
@@Mxxx-ii9bu Maybe because she was born 80 years ago !
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Surely MK Dons (AKA The Thieves) are the most hated club in England.
The issue with Salford compared with wrexham is that Ryan and rob have an image a positive image of genuinely engaged with the community, involving themselves in local charities and have a perception of genuinely trying to help a historical club that had been mismanaged with their own money.
Salford has no history of past glory and the class of 92 are using the club to relive past glory’s of their past using a foreign businessman billionaire as a backer because they are not prepared to put their money where it counts.
They’ve run roughshod over the fans changing the kit and club logo and when they get board will leave the club in a financial mess.
Why do you think green and gold is the real grass roots club of Manchester 😊
I think its great what they have done for the club. I visited salford city before the class of 92 as an away fan supporting Leigh genesis , its hard to believe thats the same ground i went to back in 2009, looks like a nice little ground now. Wish somebody would have bought Leigh Genesis, they unfortunately folded but have reformed as a sunday league team
I find these types of videos both incredibly relaxing and informative, so refreshing.
Great video really enjoyed it I live on the same road as the stadium love it &you have a new subscriber looking forward to watching more of your stuff 👏👏
What an absolutely brilliant channel, Great host, great content, love the dry humour too.
A lot of people like to say people like Gary Neville don’t care about the lower leagues/ non-league. Now he’s going and putting his money where his mouth is and getting criticism.
I guess that Salford are trying to do in 15 years what most other clubs around them have been trying (and, most often failing) to do for maybe 100 years. To go from the 8th tier with 140 fans to the pro game with 2,500 fans in a decade is still pretty impressive. I guess that fans of other clubs are miffed that they are somehow 'buying success', when the reality is that the owners are putting the building blocks in place for success to be achieved (new stadium, academy, women's team etc.). Fundamentally, those longer established - 'bigger' clubs just don't like a 'disruptor brand' shaking up the established football landscape. As always a great bit of storytelling nicely executed.
I never understood why the Nevilles didn't get involved at Bury. And I think it's a shame they didn't. It's their hometown club and their family had strong links there. Surely they could've pointed Lim, Beckham et al that way. With the money the CO92 have spent on Salford Bury could've been saved and likely be having a decent run in the 2nd tier. Instead they rebranded some tiny non league club that has likely hit it's ceiling already in league 2 with 1000 home fans and a tiny un expandable ground. And a proper club up the road now plays in the NWCFL. A league Salford would be more at home in. I say this as a Dale fan too and I'm not exactly supposed supposed like Bury!
Probably the massive debt that Stewart Day built up before he sold it to an asset stripper!
Lived just a 20 minute walk from the ground last year safe to say the ground is well hidden in the city! Great work again will be at the peninsula again soon to see how things shape
I live even closer and it's incredible isn't it? It's not even that the ground is hidden but there's no signs, no sort of major transport links to them, no pubs or anything?
I’ve recently started going to watch my local tier 9 side and if I had the sort of money to turn them into a League Two club for a bit of fun, I absolutely would. The only difference between Salford and other clubs that have travelled that same road, like Fleetwood Town for example, is the celebrity element.
Brilliant stories as always nieve do , subscriber From Algeria 🇩🇿 passed from here
Belated happy birthday, Ms Ross!
Love watching your video’s your knowledge of football is amazing 👏👏👏
I love StuntPegg's vids. Insightful, educational and witty. Made for football fans everywhere....
Wow! I happened to come across this. Very cool. I’m from Fort Lauderdale. Just wait until you see what happens with this team. I watched Miami Inter grow from nothing into what it is now. 👍👍👍Keep up the amazing job! Thanks
Love this type of video. Looking forward to your next adventures.
Dorking Wanderers would be a really interesting club for you to cover next
The amount of gatekeeping in football (and just general negative atmosphere on football social media) is such a huge bummer.
Love the vids btw
I went to Stockport once. It was quite nice. Which was a surprise.
not as hated as MK Dons or franchise FC as its widely known.
Another great video Nieve 👏🏽
you could probably read out recipes for any kind of pizza dough and i would still love watching your videos.
As a Harrogate Town season ticket holder, I have never liked Salford, as we could never beat them. That changed this season, have them on last day of season, so will possibly go to Salford, never been before.
Great content,always enjoy your videos.
I guess in the long run more power to them. In North America I see mega dollars buy an expansion franchise in all sports. When it fails they move it or sell it or both, no relegation no promotion, mega bucks does not permit that.
These guys brought this club from next to nowhere to a significant somewhere (league 2). They did it with their own significant capital, but probably nowhere near the mega bucks of N.American sports.
Heya stuntpegg! Did ya not make a video when you were over at Pat's match in dublin or Minnesota?
A'reyt Nieve. I grew up in Manningham, where the Rugby League champions changed to Bradford City. Contrast that to me having lived in Salford. I did go and watch the RL team, but never expected the football team to be in the same division as Bradford City. Their rise in football is not too different though. Bradford won the FA Cup in 1911 just 15 years after being RL champions, when there were wool magnates with plenty of money in that city.
Bradford had a bit of a tiff with Northern Union and Association Football in the early 20th Century, especially when you consider Bradford (Park Avenue) and Bradford FC in 1907
always thought it was interesting the different reception the class of 92 got compared to Wrexham who have essentially tried a similar thing as them yet are the media's dream but overspent massively to get out of the conference
Wrexham are one of the oldest clubs in the world and were very well liked already while Salford are a meme invented by men who were loathed by most everyone who doesn't support Manchester
Wrexham actually had an existing fan base and history though. That's why Rob and Ryan chose them, they knew there was a sleeping giant there. Very different to Salford who are trying to manufacture it all.
@@gilesjones3626 a lot of people miss this
If Rob and Ryan pull out of Wrexham tomorrow and they have to become self-sustainable they'll probably be at the bottom end of L2/top end of NL for the next 10 years. Salford? They'd be back in regional football before 2030
Great video stunpegg more into Salford rugby 🏉 n footie however wish them the best
First of all, fantastic video. Secondly, I have always been keen on football reporting and uploading stuff, but I’ve always been shy and maybe not confident in my ability (especially since I’m not the best at writing or journalism!), even if I do feel like I love and know a lot about football and the EFL. What are your best sort of tips for getting onto the scene and improving your confidence and that?
Another superb documentary, always enjoy your take and it always gives me that wide eyed dream like view of football that the lower leagues often bring. It's like having hot chocolate round your Nans, it's comforting haha.
I thought MK D*ns were the most hated club in England?
As for Salford, I kept thinking about Gretna while watching that. Money galore thrown in to pay for ringers to get them several promotions (and a cup final) only for them to be shut down once that cash could only take them so far.
Gretna folded because Brooks Mileson was in a lot of personal debt and kind of ill. He pulled his funding when admitted to hospital with a brain infection and died 9 months later after almost drowning after suffering a heart attack.
I remember Salford coming to Marine before they kicked on into the EFL. We had a crowd of 1700 that day and I think Salford had bought a player from the SPL.
Very informative thanks
Am a Newcastle United supporter and always keep an eye on Gateshead F.C. results I would love to see the reach League one or even the Championship but know that will take some time before that happens
Think the Heed have been to Wembley mare times than the Toon ❤
It's such a shame. The class of 92 didn't invest in any of the MANY struggling greater Manchester teams. The state of Oldham, Rochdale and Bury this past decade shows that.
But then they wouldn't be able to change the colours and crest without anyone caring!
Nevilles dad i think chairman of Bury at one point, so why didnt they buy an existing club like Bury ,instead just playing fantasty football with a made up club.
I always wanted to look up the history of this club, but couldn't be bothered to do it. That was a nice bit of info. Thank you very much.
Who has an issue with Salford? Not me. All power to them. 🐻A Pompey fan.
Enjoy your videos, only picked them up over the last couple of months....have to ask ...'stuntpegg' what is that about?
Stuff modern football. I used to watch Salford RFC with my Dad, as a boy, over 60 years ago. Visiting the ground was a very Lowry-esque experience. I miss the gas lamps.
Love your content ^^
Excellent video very informative and at times humorous
Like your style. Used to have stunt pegs on me BMX in the 80s ❤
I can see how smaller clubs with potential to improve that are near larger metro areas could have an advantage over smaller clubs that are more rural. However, having some body to regulate these type of things could be more trouble than it’s worth.
I learned football through fifa (American, bet you’d never guess). But your videos add layers and now if I ever get over to the isles I won’t be going to a giant stadium match but would probably go to one of these smaller clubs with more soul
I was in that Stockport away end that night, incredible scenes when Olaofe made it 2-2!! 😁
"They' have issues with themselves with a bit of greed and envy. Salford is the Question to me. Great video Stuntpegg.
I went to watch a game in February. Thoroughly enjoyed myself. 3-1 win vs Wrexham
I thought MK dons were the most hated club in england
I applaud that they set up and academy and a women's team, which are both important for the community.
I've seen someone say how is Salford different to Wrexham? One energised the existing fanbase, and one brought in new fans. Are the new fans only there because of the owners? Only time will tell, but Salford has always been a Rugby League town.
What we can say, however, is that Salford are less loathed than MK Dons.
As someone who's a fan of a team at that level, Wrexham were sleeping giants (relatively) who really only needed a bit of investment and to be well run, Salford are basically a team created from scratch as a play thing
Great video from a Stockport fan 👍
Cheers Robert! 👊
Peggy! You're back! In't Pompey brilliant?
I use to play for Salford in the early 70s when they were in the Salford league
My club is similar AFC Fylde. The chair David Haythornthwaite about 15 years ago took over a NW counties side and said that they would be in the football league by 2022. Many laughed but he put his money there, built a nice new 6000 capacity stadium and very nearly did it missing out in the play off final in 2019. Problem is similar though we average only 2000 fans and a bus load to away games and are universally disliked by the more traditional teams. Being so close to Preston and Blackpool doesn’t help either. Things take time to bake. Hopefully in 10 years time things will have normalised more.
Salford will struggle to move much further up the pyramid simply because the interest in the club just isn’t there within their catchment area. They have lost a lot of support over the years to the bigger clubs around them so will take them a number of years to build that fan base almost from scratch.
Like a few other league 2 teams, if they get relegated out of the EFL then I really don’t see them returning
Thanks for this
Thanks for the heads up on ground.news. Very informative. Hope to see you on tv regularly at some point, if that's your aim.
Fantastic vid! You only posted a minute ago but I've already watched it 6 times
NFFC fan here. I think Salford FC is brilliant. Love it. ❤
Fond memories of playing and refereeing at Salford in the North West Counties League days, can't help feeling the character of the club has been lost with the recent success.
You should definitely make a journey to Millwall Den before the end of the season - a trip you simply have to do - you should contact TT drive home - lovely chaps and ask to join them for a match - I would take you guys but I relocated to the Lizard ! Be a great one for your channel
Diana Ross is 80! And still touring. Another great video, Nieve.
Been here a few times with Bradford City. Always a fun away day.
Miss Pegg could you do one on MK Dons? Especially since it looks like they might win promotion, and nearby MK Irish too who might also win promotion and are more likeable.
Please do something about AFC Wimbledon. Speak to Ivor Heller, still the heart and soul of the club. Brilliant stadium, incredible set of achievements…
Much like yourself I don't begrudge them the success or opportunity to be successful. I am also interested in what the longer term holds because there has to be a moment of reality for them because they've plateaued in recent years. This can be highlighted even more so by the fact that my team Bury has had 4 years without a ball being kicked at Gigg Lane and has instantly achieved a higher average attendance than Salford City in tier 9 of the league system. There currently isn't a depth of history and support needed to push the club forwards and if the owners walked away or scaled back the investment it wouldn't be self-sustaining. I would worry they would be back at tier 8 as quickly as they rose up.
You are the best there is in this genre.
Do you actually have huge Peter Schmeichalesque hands or is it just camera perspective distortion?
The question I ask myself is: what difference can be found between Solford City and Wrexham?
When a small team meets large capitals the risk is to see exponential growth, a fall and then return to its own dimension. We have the example of Wembley FC.
PS
I'm italian and I live in Italy so maybe I don't know some some details.
When I saw the title I assumed MK
Same
They stole a league place through being a franchise. Salford are working their way through the pyramid, to my mind a massive difference
Question, is it possible for you to make a couple videos doing a stadium tour/s?