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@@morganjones7741 thats your non factual opinion. the league tables show otherwise-they have only been establsihed since the start of the season. they had no club for 3 seasons
Yes I agree MK Dons will always be the most hated club. Unfortunately for them their founding was wrong. Nothing wrong with Salfords or the class of 92's actions in my eyes.
@@dylantaylor9495 most football clubs in Europe which have shot up the leagues in recent times have done so through massive investment by their owners, few clubs can pull a Luton
@@dylantaylor9495 What about Sutton, Barrow, Harrogate, Forest Green, Morecambe and others? Have any of them become league clubs without being bankrolled and just through hard work? Is the Salford hate really just hating the Neville Brothers, Giggs and Beckham?
I really don't understand the hate for MK Dons. They have a cool stadium and they're doing OK in the football pyramid without threatening to be world beaters. Harmless enough.
Forgetting Salford City the most surprising stat mentioned here was Stockport County averaging 9000 a week. You've got to be impressed that a club thats average attendance was around 7000 in the 2nd tier a little over 20 years is averaging 9000 in the fourth tier now. Don't know how they've done it but huge respect, they certainly do know how to run a club.
Stockport have done more than salford ever have. ( I'm a salford fan ). Stockport fans are dedicated to the club due to the more success they have had than salford
Big place Stockport tbf though. Well over 250k people in the whole borough, not much smaller than Bolton really. Still impressive but there’s a lot of people in the town in general 👍🏼
Same here in Germany: The day I became a member of my football club, got tattoos of it, was the day, when 1860 Munich was relegated from second Bundesliga to lower league in 2017. Our loyalty and love to the Munich Lions broke into space and we went with 15.000 lads to some away days in this season.
For me changing the teams colours from orange to red does indicate that it's a vanity project for the class of 92 but what they spend their money on is their business and it does show their love of the game lives on.
It's ironic too how Gary Neville cried on Sky Sports about owners not respecting the history of clubs by wanting to change the names and colours of teams...
62 away supporters for Salford at my club last year, less than two hours away, on a Saturday afternoon. There simply isn’t the support base for Salford and never will be, so the bubble will burst one day.
As one of the 140 who used to turn up before the money was put in I’ve got nothing to lose. If it all goes to pot there will still be a Salford City in one form or another… and I’ll probably be able to take my dog. Credit to the owners for doing so much off the pitch with their efforts in the Salford community. This is Salford. Not the most affluent place the UK and we have our problems. But seeing a younger generation of fans getting together and supporting their local team is great to see. As for the ground, it’s blocked in by a school and houses on three sides and a protected moor on the other. Lack of parking and room to grow means that if the club is anymore successful it is likely that relocation will be necessary. So I’ll continue to buy a season ticket (£100 renewal for over 60’s 23/24 season). Even if the Class of ‘92 pull out I’ll thank them for the ride. It’s been great so far.
Wrexham is the biggest city in north wales. It has an independent fan base to draw from whereas everyone that lives in Salford will just support one of the big Manchester clubs.
Don't have an issue with Salford CIty. It's been 10 years and the class of 92 are still there. Most people with a vanity project would've got bored by now and would likely have given up. Leaving at best a club with no debts, or if they really stopped caring, would leave the club in financial ruin. I hope Salford get some more local support. It sounds like they deserve to.
I don't think we can talk about others giving up by now just yet, only because Salford have enjoyed nothing but success so far, and as long as they do so I don't see anyone giving up on them, regardless of how long they are there for. We have to wait until an extended period of stagnation (which could be argued we are getting into now) or a setback like their first relegation. Only then will we see how much staying power these guys have.
I continue to watch these excellent little documentaries with excellent storytelling, despite never really been a huge football fan. You are a bloody amazing content creator, tv execs should really take note, quality like this is why I don't often switch to live tv. 👍🏻❤️
I live in Australia and don't even support football over here - for some reason I can't get enough of this channel. Its brilliant. Great little bites of life that I love seeing, even if it has very little to do with me.
Us poms are very passionate about our football teams, like it's another religion and we bleed our teams colours when we win or lose. If we imergrate we still follow and support our team it's in our DNA. I now call Perth Western Australia home but still stay up Saturday night/ early Sunday morning following the Gills. ❤
One of the worst away days I’ve ever had, treated us really poorly. On the flip side, the best ever away day was up the road at FC United who couldn’t do enough for us and were the nicest people.
I’m a Solihull Moors supporter but I’ve also been a fan of Manchester United for over 50 years so have no gripe with the class of 92. On the day of the game it was cold and wet, the announcer kept telling us what wonderful food was available in the home end when all we had was a miserable little kiosk selling soggy burgers. If we asked anyone from Salford for advice or help all we got was a grunt and a wave of the hand. We were just made to feel totally unwelcome and it’s a ground I’d definitely think twice about visiting again. Oh…… and we (deservedly) lost the game.
there are so many football clubs in england that I always thought that if you went into some bushes while walking you'd find a stadium on the other side like in this case lmao
I think the problem is that the Salford owners are willing and able to sustain big losses to fulfill their ambitions. This creates the situation that the other clubs need to spend big to compete, which then necessitates the need for an independent regulator
Great video. My own team Leyton Orient were in the National League at the same time as Salford City (2018-19 season), we got promoted to League Two at the same time, Leyton Orient from being champions and Salford through the play-offs. I didn't like them when they beat us 3-0 at Brisbane Road and almost derailed our return to the League, but aside from that I don't mind them, if they had been a West Ham ex-player vanity project then that would have been a different matter...
I personally have nothing at all against Salford City, it's owners, Club or fans, At the end of the day the Class of 92, saw an opportunity to invest in a Local Football Club and back it as a Business. So long as they abide by the same rules as the Rest of the League then.......Carry On. The Club Stays viable. The fans Can Support Their Club, Everyone's Happy!! Great Video Nieve, Keep Up The Great Work😄
Lived just a 20 minute walk from the ground last year safe to say the ground is well hidden in the city! Great work again will be at the peninsula again soon to see how things shape
I live even closer and it's incredible isn't it? It's not even that the ground is hidden but there's no signs, no sort of major transport links to them, no pubs or anything?
A lot of people like to say people like Gary Neville don’t care about the lower leagues/ non-league. Now he’s going and putting his money where his mouth is and getting criticism.
I think its great what they have done for the club. I visited salford city before the class of 92 as an away fan supporting Leigh genesis , its hard to believe thats the same ground i went to back in 2009, looks like a nice little ground now. Wish somebody would have bought Leigh Genesis, they unfortunately folded but have reformed as a sunday league team
I agree she ought to have a wider audience, but the networks would try to throttle out the essence of what makes these vids shine. She'd be the 3-minute ' local colour ' feature, pre-packaged, vapid and lacking those wonderful snarky side comments. These 8 to 10-minute pieces are fascinating. (And besides, most of Nieve's vids are non-PL content; the networks would insist she stay on brand.)
As a Harrogate Town season ticket holder, I have never liked Salford, as we could never beat them. That changed this season, have them on last day of season, so will possibly go to Salford, never been before. Great content,always enjoy your videos.
Went to Salford stadium on a Newport away as couldn’t get tickets to city game. Even though stadium wasn’t filled, the atmosphere was definitely something you wouldn’t see at a prem game nowadays.
I applaud that they set up and academy and a women's team, which are both important for the community. I've seen someone say how is Salford different to Wrexham? One energised the existing fanbase, and one brought in new fans. Are the new fans only there because of the owners? Only time will tell, but Salford has always been a Rugby League town. What we can say, however, is that Salford are less loathed than MK Dons.
As someone who's a fan of a team at that level, Wrexham were sleeping giants (relatively) who really only needed a bit of investment and to be well run, Salford are basically a team created from scratch as a play thing
I guess in the long run more power to them. In North America I see mega dollars buy an expansion franchise in all sports. When it fails they move it or sell it or both, no relegation no promotion, mega bucks does not permit that. These guys brought this club from next to nowhere to a significant somewhere (league 2). They did it with their own significant capital, but probably nowhere near the mega bucks of N.American sports.
Wow! I happened to come across this. Very cool. I’m from Fort Lauderdale. Just wait until you see what happens with this team. I watched Miami Inter grow from nothing into what it is now. 👍👍👍Keep up the amazing job! Thanks
always thought it was interesting the different reception the class of 92 got compared to Wrexham who have essentially tried a similar thing as them yet are the media's dream but overspent massively to get out of the conference
Wrexham are one of the oldest clubs in the world and were very well liked already while Salford are a meme invented by men who were loathed by most everyone who doesn't support Manchester
Wrexham actually had an existing fan base and history though. That's why Rob and Ryan chose them, they knew there was a sleeping giant there. Very different to Salford who are trying to manufacture it all.
@@gilesjones3626 a lot of people miss this If Rob and Ryan pull out of Wrexham tomorrow and they have to become self-sustainable they'll probably be at the bottom end of L2/top end of NL for the next 10 years. Salford? They'd be back in regional football before 2030
A'reyt Nieve. I grew up in Manningham, where the Rugby League champions changed to Bradford City. Contrast that to me having lived in Salford. I did go and watch the RL team, but never expected the football team to be in the same division as Bradford City. Their rise in football is not too different though. Bradford won the FA Cup in 1911 just 15 years after being RL champions, when there were wool magnates with plenty of money in that city.
Bradford had a bit of a tiff with Northern Union and Association Football in the early 20th Century, especially when you consider Bradford (Park Avenue) and Bradford FC in 1907
I thought MK D*ns were the most hated club in England? As for Salford, I kept thinking about Gretna while watching that. Money galore thrown in to pay for ringers to get them several promotions (and a cup final) only for them to be shut down once that cash could only take them so far.
Gretna folded because Brooks Mileson was in a lot of personal debt and kind of ill. He pulled his funding when admitted to hospital with a brain infection and died 9 months later after almost drowning after suffering a heart attack.
My local club Salford have been getting it from every angle for years and it’s funny. Some of it is purely jealousy like you said. I get it, watching another team have money pumped into it and not yours isn’t the best but the lads are all local, all grew up just down the road at the Cliff in Salford playing for United and living in the area while in the academy. They have done wonders with the community and little things as capping ticket prices so they are affordable for everyone to watch who maybe might not be able to afford going to see united or city. 15 quid a ticket is amazing as some league 2 clubs alone charge nearly double that naming no names.. Of course the fan base isn’t as big as many other massive clubs in our leagues but we are very slowly growing. I guess that comes with more success if that ever comes. 10 years ago I never seen a kid with a Salford kit on now you see them around instead of just United and city. I think if the project was a vanity thing it would be done by now but this season they have signed loads of long term sponsorship deals for the future of the club. Lastly to the people who say we buy success, that maybe true at lower levels but I’m sure there’s almost half the clubs in league 2 who have a bigger wage bill than Salford currently.
Salford will struggle to move much further up the pyramid simply because the interest in the club just isn’t there within their catchment area. They have lost a lot of support over the years to the bigger clubs around them so will take them a number of years to build that fan base almost from scratch. Like a few other league 2 teams, if they get relegated out of the EFL then I really don’t see them returning
Much like yourself I don't begrudge them the success or opportunity to be successful. I am also interested in what the longer term holds because there has to be a moment of reality for them because they've plateaued in recent years. This can be highlighted even more so by the fact that my team Bury has had 4 years without a ball being kicked at Gigg Lane and has instantly achieved a higher average attendance than Salford City in tier 9 of the league system. There currently isn't a depth of history and support needed to push the club forwards and if the owners walked away or scaled back the investment it wouldn't be self-sustaining. I would worry they would be back at tier 8 as quickly as they rose up.
Stuff modern football. I used to watch Salford RFC with my Dad, as a boy, over 60 years ago. Visiting the ground was a very Lowry-esque experience. I miss the gas lamps.
My club is similar AFC Fylde. The chair David Haythornthwaite about 15 years ago took over a NW counties side and said that they would be in the football league by 2022. Many laughed but he put his money there, built a nice new 6000 capacity stadium and very nearly did it missing out in the play off final in 2019. Problem is similar though we average only 2000 fans and a bus load to away games and are universally disliked by the more traditional teams. Being so close to Preston and Blackpool doesn’t help either. Things take time to bake. Hopefully in 10 years time things will have normalised more.
Wrexham has a history, I’m sure they’ll leave the club in a better condition should they leave. The class of ‘92 are mainly from Salford, they’re doing something at least for their roots.
Only Giggs is from Salford from the class of 92. Never understood why they didn't buy Bury instead. Nevilles grew up watching them and they desperately needed some investment around the same time they bought Salford
Also Salford/Manchester you’re talking a difference of half a mile. It’s all the same. Anyone that says Trafford isn’t historically Manchester in terms of economic, cultural and society is taking out out their arse.
Fond memories of playing and refereeing at Salford in the North West Counties League days, can't help feeling the character of the club has been lost with the recent success.
I can't see anything wrong with Salford City In the Greater Manchester area, I am sure it's a different matter. MK Dons on the other hand, is not even worthy of the being called a football club. It's great that in their yearly fans' round-up of league club predictions for the season ahead, _When Saturday Comes_ *never* even acknowledges MK Dons. Great insight as ever Nieve, and lnked up with an interesting ethical sponsor. Brava!!
I can see how smaller clubs with potential to improve that are near larger metro areas could have an advantage over smaller clubs that are more rural. However, having some body to regulate these type of things could be more trouble than it’s worth.
I think its the best thing that can happen to football in general. When there is stagnation and the same over and over again things need to be shaken up and seen from a new perspective.
Salford... Wrexham... ? Only difference is Salfords owners are not Hollywood superstars yet they are both spending the money to get their clubs up there in the leagues to one day be in the PL. Different teams and different circumstances but both get the same kind of hate when you look at it as a whole, just my 2 cents.
Wrexham actually had a decent fan base and history before Rob and Ryan showed up though. That's why they chose them to buy. Salford are just trying to manufacture it all.
Got to go to us (MK Dons) next then? Looking at these comments people don’t really seem to mind Salford, you want a club literally no one likes it’s definitely us and not even close
As a Millwall fan since 1976, i have settled on our 2 years of the top flight in my lifetime! Salford as you say need to rise quickly before ffp catches up with them!!
It's a bit sad they changed the Salford kit orange colour to the Utd red colours and the badge too with the red, white & black. Both Salford clubs now have the same colours :/
Salford and Wrexham are an interesting comparison. Anyway, Salford is a fun save on Football Manager because Matt Smith is great in the air and totally immobile. 😄
I was thinking about Wrexham during this video. Has she made a video about them? Everyone seems to like them even though they have had money from non-footballers.
@@roginkthink because they’re more historical and known. They have historically been a football league club prior to them being relegated into non league in 2008. They’d been in the football league for over 80 years.
@@rogink yep. And the oldest club in wales. Don’t get me wrong, I know people that can’t stand Wrexham now and why that is because of the money they’ve now got and the sudden increase in their attendances because some fans are bandwagoning onto that now that they’re winning more. They at least have the history compared to some non league clubs that hadn’t been in the football league in their entire existence and bought their way up which is what the likes Crawley, Fleetwood and Forest Green did before Salford.
@@tombardsley3081 I guess you know more than I do. Sure, Forest Green have a rich owner, but Crawley and Fleetwood? OK, perhaps local businesspeople, but most small clubs have that.
That’s so strange that I didn’t pick that up when editing! I looked through the subtitles to make corrections and somehow missed that. (Perhaps I should just pretend that’s exactly how you spell it nowadays 🤣)
I remember Salford coming to Marine before they kicked on into the EFL. We had a crowd of 1700 that day and I think Salford had bought a player from the SPL.
I learned football through fifa (American, bet you’d never guess). But your videos add layers and now if I ever get over to the isles I won’t be going to a giant stadium match but would probably go to one of these smaller clubs with more soul
I don't really think that Salford are really that hated. There was a lot of annoyance about the insane level of coverage that they were given but now everyone has moved on to Wrexham, I think they're just another bankrolled football club that will struggle when the oweners can't or won't fund them anymore. The problem is that the insane spending pushes up costs across the board and well run clubs get pushed further down the leagues, causing them financial difficulties. Sadly no-one has learned from Rushden and Diamonds or Gretna, clubs that had well meaning benefactors who couldn't be replaced when neccessary.
Neville is one of the ones championing the appointment of a football regulator, both to help stop smaller clubs being run so poorly that they go out of business but also to rein in the big boys at the top of the pyramid, including his own beloved United. The trouble Salford has of course is that the area is mostly made up of United fans. Building a supporter base will be tough though I suppose the hope is to encourage United fans to go to Salford games when United aren't playing and you do get some of that but not to a massive level. If anything, Salford is living proof that the 3PM blackout is pointless. The numbers that go to other games when their own team are playing at 3PM and thus aren't on the TV are tiny.
I think the problem is AFC Wimbledon, who gained promotion all the way up to league 1, on pure fan power, compared to Salford which was more money driven! Its hard NOT to roote for Wimbledon & theyre fans compared to clubs like Salford & Crawley!
Yeovil (essentially a village club), have shown any club can reach the second tier of English football. Clubs like Yeovil, Burton and Salford have a ceiling and suistaining second tier football fiiior those type of Clubs is near impossiblei
Have you ever thought about a video about Fanfriendships? In German 2. Bundesliga we recently have 2 traditional friendships, between Karlsruhe and Hertha fans, as well between Schalke and Nürnberg. The friendship of Karlsruhe and Hertha for example dates back since 1976. Could be an interessting topic.
@@Ramtamtama I think, fanfriendships are something different. I'm a fan of Karlsruhe, and whenever we have an away game in northern/eastern Germany, Herthafans will come to support us. When they play in south /West Germany, there will be plenty of Karlsruhe fans supporting Hertha. When both teams play together, there will be party, and the chants will be coordinatet by both fansides, so the noise inside the Stadium seems to be doubled.
I've watched my own team play in blue since the 1960s and if new owners came in and put in £10m and made them play in red, that would be it for me, I wouldn't go again.
I visited Moor Lane and found it an enjoyable afternoon. The only criticism is it's difficult to walk round the outside of the ground and they still retain a bit of that non-league mentality. I prefer them a lot more than Forest Green Rovers.
I hope they have great success, but some clubs have a natural ceiling that can be incredibly tough to break through. They have been brash and impatient at times, but it can't be denied that they've made every decision with the intention of making Salford City better
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and why mention Bury when Radcliffe are 2 divisions above them..
@@LdevArtbecause bury are A very well know. Established club
@@morganjones7741 thats your non factual opinion. the league tables show otherwise-they have only been establsihed since the start of the season. they had no club for 3 seasons
I was talking about buying Bury a few years ago when they actually bought Salford, Bury were still in the football league then x
@@TheLiverpolitan nice story bro...
Not hated as much as MK Dons. Salford earned their league position through playing football.
Yes I agree MK Dons will always be the most hated club. Unfortunately for them their founding was wrong. Nothing wrong with Salfords or the class of 92's actions in my eyes.
Earned it via being bankrolled by the class of 92. its not earned via hardwork.
@@dylantaylor9495 most football clubs in Europe which have shot up the leagues in recent times have done so through massive investment by their owners, few clubs can pull a Luton
@@dylantaylor9495 What about Sutton, Barrow, Harrogate, Forest Green, Morecambe and others?
Have any of them become league clubs without being bankrolled and just through hard work?
Is the Salford hate really just hating the Neville Brothers, Giggs and Beckham?
I really don't understand the hate for MK Dons. They have a cool stadium and they're doing OK in the football pyramid without threatening to be world beaters. Harmless enough.
Forgetting Salford City the most surprising stat mentioned here was Stockport County averaging 9000 a week. You've got to be impressed that a club thats average attendance was around 7000 in the 2nd tier a little over 20 years is averaging 9000 in the fourth tier now. Don't know how they've done it but huge respect, they certainly do know how to run a club.
Stockport have done more than salford ever have. ( I'm a salford fan ). Stockport fans are dedicated to the club due to the more success they have had than salford
plus they were in the sixth tier a few years ago. York City, Notts County and Stockport are massive for non-league
Yeah but in salford we have a massive club called Manchester united which is not even half an mile from Salford.
When i lived not far from stockport back in the early 80's friday night i'd go to country matchs with a few mates, never more then 2.5 to 3000 fans
Big place Stockport tbf though. Well over 250k people in the whole borough, not much smaller than Bolton really. Still impressive but there’s a lot of people in the town in general 👍🏼
Same here in Germany: The day I became a member of my football club, got tattoos of it, was the day, when 1860 Munich was relegated from second Bundesliga to lower league in 2017. Our loyalty and love to the Munich Lions broke into space and we went with 15.000 lads to some away days in this season.
Excellent.
Greetings from Australia and another 1860 fan.
As a bayern fan, I hope one day we can have the derby in the bundesliga again.
Germany does seem to have a lot of well supported teams in lower leagues. Is it because of the regular rise and fall phenomenon in your leagues?
0:57 had me go 😂😂
The 7-0 was just a fluke 😂
For me changing the teams colours from orange to red does indicate that it's a vanity project for the class of 92 but what they spend their money on is their business and it does show their love of the game lives on.
It's ironic too how Gary Neville cried on Sky Sports about owners not respecting the history of clubs by wanting to change the names and colours of teams...
62 away supporters for Salford at my club last year, less than two hours away, on a Saturday afternoon. There simply isn’t the support base for Salford and never will be, so the bubble will burst one day.
It's upto Salford to go out and perform to gain more fans
100% Just isn't the fanbase for the club and no amount of ex-United players buying ownership stakes will ever change that.
Yeah that is a good point and hard to disagree with.
The bubble will not burst.
Remember Manchester City ?
Salford City will be like Manchester City or even more in the near future.
@@akoznasovajusername lol
As one of the 140 who used to turn up before the money was put in I’ve got nothing to lose. If it all goes to pot there will still be a Salford City in one form or another… and I’ll probably be able to take my dog. Credit to the owners for doing so much off the pitch with their efforts in the Salford community. This is Salford. Not the most affluent place the UK and we have our problems. But seeing a younger generation of fans getting together and supporting their local team is great to see.
As for the ground, it’s blocked in by a school and houses on three sides and a protected moor on the other. Lack of parking and room to grow means that if the club is anymore successful it is likely that relocation will be necessary. So I’ll continue to buy a season ticket (£100 renewal for over 60’s 23/24 season). Even if the Class of ‘92 pull out I’ll thank them for the ride. It’s been great so far.
Couldn't of said it better myself mate, I love following this club and wouldn't let other people's opinions affect that
"Not half of some meat".....There is a touch of Philomena Cunk in you!! Your humour and comments are awesome.
I can only imagine they're looking at Wrexham and thinking "what are we doing wrong?"
Wrexham are a much bigger club who have spent the majority of their existence in the third tier. Salford are tiny.
@@johnmitchell2269That and Wrexham has more money
Pretty sure Peter Lim has more wealth than Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhaney combined@@Britishgeohistorian
Wrexham are actually a proper club for a start
Wrexham is the biggest city in north wales. It has an independent fan base to draw from whereas everyone that lives in Salford will just support one of the big Manchester clubs.
Don't have an issue with Salford CIty. It's been 10 years and the class of 92 are still there. Most people with a vanity project would've got bored by now and would likely have given up. Leaving at best a club with no debts, or if they really stopped caring, would leave the club in financial ruin. I hope Salford get some more local support. It sounds like they deserve to.
I don't think we can talk about others giving up by now just yet, only because Salford have enjoyed nothing but success so far, and as long as they do so I don't see anyone giving up on them, regardless of how long they are there for.
We have to wait until an extended period of stagnation (which could be argued we are getting into now) or a setback like their first relegation. Only then will we see how much staying power these guys have.
Currently looking for new investment. Sounds like they’ve lost interest in the failed vanity project to me.
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I continue to watch these excellent little documentaries with excellent storytelling, despite never really been a huge football fan. You are a bloody amazing content creator, tv execs should really take note, quality like this is why I don't often switch to live tv. 👍🏻❤️
Seconded! I've become so much more informed about the lower divisions and some really special smaller clubs from these vids!
I live in Australia and don't even support football over here - for some reason I can't get enough of this channel. Its brilliant. Great little bites of life that I love seeing, even if it has very little to do with me.
Us poms are very passionate about our football teams, like it's another religion and we bleed our teams colours when we win or lose. If we imergrate we still follow and support our team it's in our DNA. I now call Perth Western Australia home but still stay up Saturday night/ early Sunday morning following the Gills. ❤
One of the worst away days I’ve ever had, treated us really poorly.
On the flip side, the best ever away day was up the road at FC United who couldn’t do enough for us and were the nicest people.
Delusional.
How can it be delusional when it’s fact?
purely out of curiosity, what club are you referring to, and in what capacity (I guess you're a fan) ?. Cheers.@@MrWorfy99
I’m a Solihull Moors supporter but I’ve also been a fan of Manchester United for over 50 years so have no gripe with the class of 92.
On the day of the game it was cold and wet, the announcer kept telling us what wonderful food was available in the home end when all we had was a miserable little kiosk selling soggy burgers.
If we asked anyone from Salford for advice or help all we got was a grunt and a wave of the hand.
We were just made to feel totally unwelcome and it’s a ground I’d definitely think twice about visiting again.
Oh…… and we (deservedly) lost the game.
@@magicalgores3416 Can you expand on that?
there are so many football clubs in england that I always thought that if you went into some bushes while walking you'd find a stadium on the other side like in this case lmao
I think the problem is that the Salford owners are willing and able to sustain big losses to fulfill their ambitions. This creates the situation that the other clubs need to spend big to compete, which then necessitates the need for an independent regulator
Great video. My own team Leyton Orient were in the National League at the same time as Salford City (2018-19 season), we got promoted to League Two at the same time, Leyton Orient from being champions and Salford through the play-offs. I didn't like them when they beat us 3-0 at Brisbane Road and almost derailed our return to the League, but aside from that I don't mind them, if they had been a West Ham ex-player vanity project then that would have been a different matter...
Another great video..I love your dry humour and informative quirkiness..
Loving all your content but we need mooooore.
Keep up the top top work girl.
I personally have nothing at all against Salford City, it's owners, Club or fans, At the end of the day the Class of 92, saw an opportunity to invest in a Local Football Club and back it as a Business.
So long as they abide by the same rules as the Rest of the League then.......Carry On. The Club Stays viable. The fans Can Support Their Club, Everyone's Happy!! Great Video Nieve, Keep Up The Great Work😄
Funny how Deadpool is doing better at running a club than the class of 92
I find these types of videos both incredibly relaxing and informative, so refreshing.
your board behind you is always funny
I thought I was the only one to notice 😊
Diana Ross turned 80 last week. How is that possible?
@@Mxxx-ii9bu Maybe because she was born 80 years ago !
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Lived just a 20 minute walk from the ground last year safe to say the ground is well hidden in the city! Great work again will be at the peninsula again soon to see how things shape
I live even closer and it's incredible isn't it? It's not even that the ground is hidden but there's no signs, no sort of major transport links to them, no pubs or anything?
Really love your mini documentaries on different Football clubs Nieve you are bossing it as always and i really love the EFL and Non League so much 😊
I love your dedication to your channel, one of my favorites. Ty
Brilliant stories as always nieve do , subscriber From Algeria 🇩🇿 passed from here
I thought MK dons were the most hated club in england
A lot of people like to say people like Gary Neville don’t care about the lower leagues/ non-league. Now he’s going and putting his money where his mouth is and getting criticism.
I think its great what they have done for the club. I visited salford city before the class of 92 as an away fan supporting Leigh genesis , its hard to believe thats the same ground i went to back in 2009, looks like a nice little ground now. Wish somebody would have bought Leigh Genesis, they unfortunately folded but have reformed as a sunday league team
why aint Sky Sports or Talk Sport offered this lass a job yet?.. think they are missing a trick here..🤷♂️..
Because Sky Sports and Talk Sport isn't the be all and end all of football commentary....quite the opposite.
Because unlike them she actually does a proper job
I agree she ought to have a wider audience, but the networks would try to throttle out the essence of what makes these vids shine. She'd be the 3-minute ' local colour ' feature, pre-packaged, vapid and lacking those wonderful snarky side comments. These 8 to 10-minute pieces are fascinating. (And besides, most of Nieve's vids are non-PL content; the networks would insist she stay on brand.)
hey... We want here HERE ! Their loss is OUR GAIN !
@@bpbeary8011 Plus shes white
"They' have issues with themselves with a bit of greed and envy. Salford is the Question to me. Great video Stuntpegg.
As a Harrogate Town season ticket holder, I have never liked Salford, as we could never beat them. That changed this season, have them on last day of season, so will possibly go to Salford, never been before.
Great content,always enjoy your videos.
Nobody can say that the class of 92 don't care about Salford. The club has only got better I don't see a problem.
Went to Salford stadium on a Newport away as couldn’t get tickets to city game. Even though stadium wasn’t filled, the atmosphere was definitely something you wouldn’t see at a prem game nowadays.
Belated happy birthday, Ms Ross!
I applaud that they set up and academy and a women's team, which are both important for the community.
I've seen someone say how is Salford different to Wrexham? One energised the existing fanbase, and one brought in new fans. Are the new fans only there because of the owners? Only time will tell, but Salford has always been a Rugby League town.
What we can say, however, is that Salford are less loathed than MK Dons.
As someone who's a fan of a team at that level, Wrexham were sleeping giants (relatively) who really only needed a bit of investment and to be well run, Salford are basically a team created from scratch as a play thing
I love StuntPegg's vids. Insightful, educational and witty. Made for football fans everywhere....
Dorking Wanderers would be a really interesting club for you to cover next
I guess in the long run more power to them. In North America I see mega dollars buy an expansion franchise in all sports. When it fails they move it or sell it or both, no relegation no promotion, mega bucks does not permit that.
These guys brought this club from next to nowhere to a significant somewhere (league 2). They did it with their own significant capital, but probably nowhere near the mega bucks of N.American sports.
Wow! I happened to come across this. Very cool. I’m from Fort Lauderdale. Just wait until you see what happens with this team. I watched Miami Inter grow from nothing into what it is now. 👍👍👍Keep up the amazing job! Thanks
Thanks for the birthday wishes. Kind Regards Diana Ross.
always thought it was interesting the different reception the class of 92 got compared to Wrexham who have essentially tried a similar thing as them yet are the media's dream but overspent massively to get out of the conference
Wrexham are one of the oldest clubs in the world and were very well liked already while Salford are a meme invented by men who were loathed by most everyone who doesn't support Manchester
Wrexham actually had an existing fan base and history though. That's why Rob and Ryan chose them, they knew there was a sleeping giant there. Very different to Salford who are trying to manufacture it all.
@@gilesjones3626 a lot of people miss this
If Rob and Ryan pull out of Wrexham tomorrow and they have to become self-sustainable they'll probably be at the bottom end of L2/top end of NL for the next 10 years. Salford? They'd be back in regional football before 2030
Id say MK Dons were more hated than Salford.
Totally agree...
Who has an issue with Salford? Not me. All power to them. 🐻A Pompey fan.
Great Vid as always. Love these pieces on smaller clubs
A'reyt Nieve. I grew up in Manningham, where the Rugby League champions changed to Bradford City. Contrast that to me having lived in Salford. I did go and watch the RL team, but never expected the football team to be in the same division as Bradford City. Their rise in football is not too different though. Bradford won the FA Cup in 1911 just 15 years after being RL champions, when there were wool magnates with plenty of money in that city.
Bradford had a bit of a tiff with Northern Union and Association Football in the early 20th Century, especially when you consider Bradford (Park Avenue) and Bradford FC in 1907
I thought MK D*ns were the most hated club in England?
As for Salford, I kept thinking about Gretna while watching that. Money galore thrown in to pay for ringers to get them several promotions (and a cup final) only for them to be shut down once that cash could only take them so far.
Gretna folded because Brooks Mileson was in a lot of personal debt and kind of ill. He pulled his funding when admitted to hospital with a brain infection and died 9 months later after almost drowning after suffering a heart attack.
My local club Salford have been getting it from every angle for years and it’s funny. Some of it is purely jealousy like you said. I get it, watching another team have money pumped into it and not yours isn’t the best but the lads are all local, all grew up just down the road at the Cliff in Salford playing for United and living in the area while in the academy.
They have done wonders with the community and little things as capping ticket prices so they are affordable for everyone to watch who maybe might not be able to afford going to see united or city. 15 quid a ticket is amazing as some league 2 clubs alone charge nearly double that naming no names..
Of course the fan base isn’t as big as many other massive clubs in our leagues but we are very slowly growing. I guess that comes with more success if that ever comes. 10 years ago I never seen a kid with a Salford kit on now you see them around instead of just United and city.
I think if the project was a vanity thing it would be done by now but this season they have signed loads of long term sponsorship deals for the future of the club.
Lastly to the people who say we buy success, that maybe true at lower levels but I’m sure there’s almost half the clubs in league 2 who have a bigger wage bill than Salford currently.
Salford will struggle to move much further up the pyramid simply because the interest in the club just isn’t there within their catchment area. They have lost a lot of support over the years to the bigger clubs around them so will take them a number of years to build that fan base almost from scratch.
Like a few other league 2 teams, if they get relegated out of the EFL then I really don’t see them returning
Football clubs should be given a listed status. They are that important to a community.
I was in that Stockport away end that night, incredible scenes when Olaofe made it 2-2!! 😁
Much like yourself I don't begrudge them the success or opportunity to be successful. I am also interested in what the longer term holds because there has to be a moment of reality for them because they've plateaued in recent years. This can be highlighted even more so by the fact that my team Bury has had 4 years without a ball being kicked at Gigg Lane and has instantly achieved a higher average attendance than Salford City in tier 9 of the league system. There currently isn't a depth of history and support needed to push the club forwards and if the owners walked away or scaled back the investment it wouldn't be self-sustaining. I would worry they would be back at tier 8 as quickly as they rose up.
Stuff modern football. I used to watch Salford RFC with my Dad, as a boy, over 60 years ago. Visiting the ground was a very Lowry-esque experience. I miss the gas lamps.
NFFC fan here. I think Salford FC is brilliant. Love it. ❤
My club is similar AFC Fylde. The chair David Haythornthwaite about 15 years ago took over a NW counties side and said that they would be in the football league by 2022. Many laughed but he put his money there, built a nice new 6000 capacity stadium and very nearly did it missing out in the play off final in 2019. Problem is similar though we average only 2000 fans and a bus load to away games and are universally disliked by the more traditional teams. Being so close to Preston and Blackpool doesn’t help either. Things take time to bake. Hopefully in 10 years time things will have normalised more.
What an absolutely brilliant channel, Great host, great content, love the dry humour too.
Wrexham has a history, I’m sure they’ll leave the club in a better condition should they leave. The class of ‘92 are mainly from Salford, they’re doing something at least for their roots.
Only Giggs is from Salford from the class of 92. Never understood why they didn't buy Bury instead. Nevilles grew up watching them and they desperately needed some investment around the same time they bought Salford
@@gilesjones3626 pretty sure Scholes is too isn’t he?
Also Salford/Manchester you’re talking a difference of half a mile. It’s all the same. Anyone that says Trafford isn’t historically Manchester in terms of economic, cultural and society is taking out out their arse.
@@gilesjones3626Giggs is Welsh. Scholes is from Oldham. Neville’s are from Bury. Butty is from Gorton I think. So none of them from Salford.
@@moonbaby6134 wrong. Giggs is from Salford.
I don’t see a problem with new investors investing in clubs. More owners should
Fond memories of playing and refereeing at Salford in the North West Counties League days, can't help feeling the character of the club has been lost with the recent success.
I can't see anything wrong with Salford City In the Greater Manchester area, I am sure it's a different matter. MK Dons on the other hand, is not even worthy of the being called a football club. It's great that in their yearly fans' round-up of league club predictions for the season ahead, _When Saturday Comes_ *never* even acknowledges MK Dons. Great insight as ever Nieve, and lnked up with an interesting ethical sponsor. Brava!!
I like Diana Ross, too.
I still don't understand how soccer works - but love your videos!
I can see how smaller clubs with potential to improve that are near larger metro areas could have an advantage over smaller clubs that are more rural. However, having some body to regulate these type of things could be more trouble than it’s worth.
I think its the best thing that can happen to football in general. When there is stagnation and the same over and over again things need to be shaken up and seen from a new perspective.
I agree there is a lot of entitlement with football supporters as to who is "tinpot" and who has this elusive quality of "authenticity "
Salford... Wrexham... ? Only difference is Salfords owners are not Hollywood superstars yet they are both spending the money to get their clubs up there in the leagues to one day be in the PL. Different teams and different circumstances but both get the same kind of hate when you look at it as a whole, just my 2 cents.
Wrexham actually had a decent fan base and history before Rob and Ryan showed up though. That's why they chose them to buy. Salford are just trying to manufacture it all.
Fair enough but…..why are you holding a baby Guinea pig?
Got to go to us (MK Dons) next then?
Looking at these comments people don’t really seem to mind Salford, you want a club literally no one likes it’s definitely us and not even close
As a Millwall fan since 1976, i have settled on our 2 years of the top flight in my lifetime! Salford as you say need to rise quickly before ffp catches up with them!!
It's a bit sad they changed the Salford kit orange colour to the Utd red colours and the badge too with the red, white & black. Both Salford clubs now have the same colours :/
Salford and Wrexham are an interesting comparison. Anyway, Salford is a fun save on Football Manager because Matt Smith is great in the air and totally immobile. 😄
I was thinking about Wrexham during this video. Has she made a video about them? Everyone seems to like them even though they have had money from non-footballers.
@@roginkthink because they’re more historical and known. They have historically been a football league club prior to them being relegated into non league in 2008. They’d been in the football league for over 80 years.
@@tombardsley3081 Fair enough. Aren't they something like the 3rd oldest club?
@@rogink yep. And the oldest club in wales. Don’t get me wrong, I know people that can’t stand Wrexham now and why that is because of the money they’ve now got and the sudden increase in their attendances because some fans are bandwagoning onto that now that they’re winning more. They at least have the history compared to some non league clubs that hadn’t been in the football league in their entire existence and bought their way up which is what the likes Crawley, Fleetwood and Forest Green did before Salford.
@@tombardsley3081 I guess you know more than I do. Sure, Forest Green have a rich owner, but Crawley and Fleetwood? OK, perhaps local businesspeople, but most small clubs have that.
Diana Ross is 80! And still touring. Another great video, Nieve.
Who cares how they got there and how much money they have? It's legal money they've earned and they can spend it how they want.
Heya stuntpegg! Did ya not make a video when you were over at Pat's match in dublin or Minnesota?
I went to Stockport once. It was quite nice. Which was a surprise.
Shoutout to subtitles for changing the word "adrenaline" to "the training and."
I didn't know I'd been saying it wrong this whole time. 🤣
That’s so strange that I didn’t pick that up when editing! I looked through the subtitles to make corrections and somehow missed that. (Perhaps I should just pretend that’s exactly how you spell it nowadays 🤣)
@@stuntpeggnieve well the subtitles go by fast ... It can be amusing what comes out ... If THAT is the worst that happens - no harm , no foul.... 😃😉
Nobody wanted Adam Rooney in Scotland, to be fair.
Aberdeen would disagree
I remember Salford coming to Marine before they kicked on into the EFL. We had a crowd of 1700 that day and I think Salford had bought a player from the SPL.
I learned football through fifa (American, bet you’d never guess). But your videos add layers and now if I ever get over to the isles I won’t be going to a giant stadium match but would probably go to one of these smaller clubs with more soul
Love watching your video’s your knowledge of football is amazing 👏👏👏
Football owners have spent their money for more than 100 years. Must be OK. What is not OK is to borrow money to expand the club.
Bournemouth "stares back"
Another great video Nieve 👏🏽
I don't really think that Salford are really that hated. There was a lot of annoyance about the insane level of coverage that they were given but now everyone has moved on to Wrexham, I think they're just another bankrolled football club that will struggle when the oweners can't or won't fund them anymore.
The problem is that the insane spending pushes up costs across the board and well run clubs get pushed further down the leagues, causing them financial difficulties.
Sadly no-one has learned from Rushden and Diamonds or Gretna, clubs that had well meaning benefactors who couldn't be replaced when neccessary.
Isn’t Wrexham doing the same. Except they are bringing the town together and people in Wrexham love it. Never heard that from Salford
Neville is one of the ones championing the appointment of a football regulator, both to help stop smaller clubs being run so poorly that they go out of business but also to rein in the big boys at the top of the pyramid, including his own beloved United.
The trouble Salford has of course is that the area is mostly made up of United fans. Building a supporter base will be tough though I suppose the hope is to encourage United fans to go to Salford games when United aren't playing and you do get some of that but not to a massive level.
If anything, Salford is living proof that the 3PM blackout is pointless. The numbers that go to other games when their own team are playing at 3PM and thus aren't on the TV are tiny.
Do you actually have huge Peter Schmeichalesque hands or is it just camera perspective distortion?
I think the problem is AFC Wimbledon, who gained promotion all the way up to league 1, on pure fan power, compared to Salford which was more money driven! Its hard NOT to roote for Wimbledon & theyre fans compared to clubs like Salford & Crawley!
Yeovil (essentially a village club), have shown any club can reach the second tier of English football.
Clubs like Yeovil, Burton and Salford have a ceiling and suistaining second tier football fiiior those type of Clubs is near impossiblei
Sure, to a degree, but where is Yeovil Town today?
National League South...
That`s some village! Yeovil has a population of about 50,000.
Thanks for the heads up on ground.news. Very informative. Hope to see you on tv regularly at some point, if that's your aim.
Salford the most hated club in English football? When did Millwall go out of business?
Have you ever thought about a video about Fanfriendships? In German 2. Bundesliga we recently have 2 traditional friendships, between Karlsruhe and Hertha fans, as well between Schalke and Nürnberg. The friendship of Karlsruhe and Hertha for example dates back since 1976. Could be an interessting topic.
We don't really have friendships, we have 2nd clubs and soft spots.
@@Ramtamtama I think, fanfriendships are something different. I'm a fan of Karlsruhe, and whenever we have an away game in northern/eastern Germany, Herthafans will come to support us. When they play in south /West Germany, there will be plenty of Karlsruhe fans supporting Hertha. When both teams play together, there will be party, and the chants will be coordinatet by both fansides, so the noise inside the Stadium seems to be doubled.
Great video from a Stockport fan 👍
Cheers Robert! 👊
Away fans are 99% of the time more passionate than the home ones - doesn’t mean they are better fans or a bigger club
I've watched my own team play in blue since the 1960s and if new owners came in and put in £10m and made them play in red, that would be it for me, I wouldn't go again.
0:44 Wish I could make a girl make that noise with (or without) my net worth :(
Love this type of video. Looking forward to your next adventures.
Salford Badge looks like something you make on Microsoft paint lmfao 😂
The Supremes' enjoyer just has seen something on the board hehe
Ha! Such an iconic band
@@stuntpeggnieve also the scene at the Moor Lane looks thrilling with the "Danger Zone" song. Great atmosphere, Nieve 💪
@@stuntpeggnieve I grew up with Motown Records in the great state of Michigan - where it all came from !
I visited Moor Lane and found it an enjoyable afternoon. The only criticism is it's difficult to walk round the outside of the ground and they still retain a bit of that non-league mentality. I prefer them a lot more than Forest Green Rovers.
I hope they have great success, but some clubs have a natural ceiling that can be incredibly tough to break through. They have been brash and impatient at times, but it can't be denied that they've made every decision with the intention of making Salford City better
that sponsor ad transition was so freakin smooth i didn't even know it was happening, i feel violated, but will continue watching your videos because you're so freakin adorable
Genuinely some of the most engaging football content available 👏🏻
How dim am I ? For the first couple of minutes, I thought you were holding a small cup cake with frosting and about to take a bite. It made me quite hungry. D'Oh! I feel stupid now...