@@LadiIluyomade-pf6qe that's not at all the same doofus slowbro leaves you stuns able to act for a LONG time healing itself and tanky af. charizard can still take damage and die and doesn't leave you unable to move he can also still be targeted by mean or other bonded ults yall just get outplayed slowbro and mimimyu is way more broken. Mimikyu can't even take damage
@@LadiIluyomade-pf6qe just because it's not cancelable like slowbro it's a slowbro unite? No and mimikyu, another all arounder which is actually closer to a slowbro unite except can't take damage while he damages you yall complaining about the wrong all arounder
@@Floppy_Shmeatthey're annoying for diferent reasons, Charizard deals lots of damage during teamfights while the health steal, speed and hindrance resistance allows you to pursue or escape the enemy
I’m glad char ult cancels slowbro unite, thanks for the free get out of jail card and 90% unite move gauge for slowbro sucker. Or was it the opposite? Idk since it’s been a few days since I’ve played
I see people ban Char in draft yet let Oh-ho, Umbreon, Delphox, and other more annoying picks play. Char is at his best but is no where near as a threat as others.
There are a lot of pokémon that are annoying to fight against. Four bans won't cover them all. I'm not a fan of unites design and balance methodology anymore.
@@drxavier1870 what's removing the counterclaim? Making cancelable if you're unstoppable that's dumb then you're left lunged into an enemy sitting there wait to die
@@drxavier1870 on top of that you're left at 95% charge like what?? I basically die because I got my ult cancel an unstoppable a status that's on regular moves that keep coming up after cooldown. how it is now is fair because Slowbro, Mimikyu can't and people just let that slide but when charizard's can't it's not. It's fair now slowbro cancel char, Mimikyu can cancel char but now char can cancel them too that's great because unlike Mimikyu char can still take damage during unite
@@Floppy_Shmeat Yeah thats what i mean, Charachters in team fighting games are suppose to have checks and counters to every charachter to make it more interactive Falinks being immune to Azumarill's Huge Power is a great example of a good counter But Charizard's Unite wich is a single target grab that can borderline insta-kill anything that isnt a Defender or insane survivability. Being able to outplay people who mindlessely spam Charizard Unite was good Charizard players that were able to bait out Full Heals and other Unstoppable effects were also reward skill Removing the prediction skill of Char Unite and rewarding people who mindlessely use it to kill anyone they feel like is bad and as you can see, Charizard is the highest Winrate in the game because they made his Unite have 0 way to stop it outside of Slowbro
@CrisHeroes why is breaking top lane first goal early a bad thing? I personally like it because if you then win regileki it's an instant danger for 2nd goal top lane. And if enemy team takes it down with their whole squad it's a free goal in bottom lane. I get that having more wild pokemon at the start helps, but that's why I don't break bottoms lane first goal (more points from wild pokemon than top lane)
Hey Cris, is stacking on Charizard mandatory? I am currently running MuscleBand, ScopeLens and EnergyAmplifier on Charizard with the Flamethrower FireBlast build.
Most players where I'm from already knew who i was as a char main, so whenever draft comes and i see someone at the enemy side that i know of gets to ban char which i though was funny. I can play any pokemon in the game and decides to ban my main guy... well there's 2 that i main
Well, that depends on the context of the entire thing. Did this teammate choose charizard and the enemy not ban it and then you banned it? Cause if that’s the case, you’re trolling.
@@shauryanegi6553 Eh, imo charizard ain't nearly as problematic as people make him out to be, but I can at least understand why you did what you did but if your teammate picks a pokemon and your enemies didn't ban it, banning it is a 100% lame thing to do. I can't tell you how many times I had picked ho-oh the enemy didn't ban it, I had first pick but lo and behold my own teammate bans it as the second pick.
Guys it is not scary until you have a slowbro in your team or mimikyu . I never lost a match where a charizard is in opponent team and i annoyed the hell out of the charizard with slowbro. But Rip if you don't have anyone of them to counter it . Its a monster with its unite
I think Charizard without the unite move is just mid, it's not really good or really bad, it's just mid A buff to fire blast getting a shield like flare blitz would be interesting Nerfing the unite move to be cancelable only against full heal would be nice for counter play
I don't fully agree. The unite has always been it's selling point but it's always had issues in its design, which is kind of true for the evolution system as a whole. The game heavily favors a strong early game. The base kit sucked really bad before. When the Unite took too many nerfs, Char was terrible. When the base kit gets too many buffs (looking at you Flamethrower) you can't run away from it. The Bind buff AND the movement boosts together however is definitely too much power fantasy for my tastes. I always liked the Mon even when it sucked, now it leaves a bad taste in my mouth 😂
Charizard is strong but he doesn't feel broken. I'd rather ban something like ceruledge over Char. As while Char is strong his moves never felt as oppressive as Ceruledge Slow bro or Ho oh.
I think the unite move is the main problem with being oppressive. I typically try to ban the 3 you named and Char in unite draft. I typically use energy amp so getting those unite moves at every big fight is insanely strong especially against a team of squishies. Maybe tune the damage down a bit but I’m enjoying finally not getting canceled out of my unite all the time.
Slow beam needs a rework but I'm not overly concerned with the rest of the kit (though, Slowbro is problematic as a design). Ho-Oh is mitigation machine but I don't know how I'd like it to change yet. I stopped playing it after having it for 10 days or so. The damage set is pretty fun, but not janky enough (the game favors jank) and I'd like to see changes to the Unite linking resurrections to the map. (Which I also want to apply to other legendaries)
@@dionjones6300 that’s completely valid slo bro without his unite I have no problems with but idk how to tweak it to still do what it should but not be as oppressive
Breaking goal zones super early leads to your team getting a lot less farm that they can secure easily. Hence you will be deprived of levels while the enemy get free farms on their side and can get back from behind the game.
you lose neutral farm and enemy gets safe farm (indeedees and altarias). when you break early there’s high likelihood of breaking with bad overcaps. if you were stomping hard in the early game, breaking too early is one of the easiest ways to lose your advantage. then they lost first bot regi in this match, despite breaking both goals, which pushed more exp to the other team. breaking the tier 2 goal improved the game state by getting more exp from kos/scores/stealing safe farm and increasing map pressure on other team
Started playing unite like 3 months ago after leaving other games (marvel snap, black clover) because the playerbase would always complain about units they don't like being unbalanced and seems like i can't escape the "this unit feels too strong because i keep losing to it, please nerf" nerds 😤 out of all people is always the content creators starting these trends then they wonder why there not enough content
Everyone still bans Charizard as I already knew he now dominates every game. And you know what, I'm fine with him banned in draft. I'll still use Slowbro cuz LOL
Unless you have a commanding lead, the last objective is really important. You can bet any car worth their assault is going to be at that objective and they're going to turn that fight from a 5v5 to a 5v4 not in your favor unless your team cares enough to run buddy barrier, strong area denial, or counter picks.
Char ult shouldn't be allowed to pick unstoppable mons. Slowbro and mimi ults were at least single target but char's isn't. You don't even have to worry about who to pick unlike the other two. The thing they could done for it's unite is making the ult itself unstoppable or just better self heal with the ult. Another good way could have make it like the beta version as in the ult was two staged, the first stage being the basic attack buff while the second stage being the slam and your unite will end after the slam.
@@lloydter that's stupid with a slowbro and mimikyu unite you die pretty much instantly. Slowbro takes no damage and stuns you forever and you can't use potion, eject, xspeed run to your healer nothing, mimikyu takes no damage and immobilize you no chance to escape and damages you hella. Charizard slams you once and you're free to move around and he can still be stopped by mean look, mew unite, even chandlure obscure his vision, hide in grass then eject or xspeed, or any other bonded ult and oh he can also take damage and die during his unite unlike those other 2 so no it's still not broken like those two and it's not OP or unfair there's definitely ways around it and he can get killed while ulting
Good pokemon but not broken. It's too weak before 5. It is definitely a tier pick that deserves being banned, but you can just take other tier picks when your opposing team picks char.
I still think it's rough to be the only all-arounder on ur team as char. Just takes so long to come online and w/o unite u lose to just about every other all around 1v1. However if u get a good start on char it's pretty damn good.
You must be playing against bots because im in 1400+ master and he gets banned 95% of the time and when he doesn't get banned he can't solo carry if the team is not supporting him
You can always score or farm your Unite rate since they reward a flat percentage rather than specific numbers. Holding your Units for the right moment also isn't a challenge
Charizard is just fine as is. Hell i’d argue Char still needs buffs; just not much anymore. People complain too much about a pokemon getting certain buffs they desprately needed & then all of a sudden, they’re shining brightly in the meta now. Btw, people also need & I mean “NEED” to learn the matchup with Charizard & the same applies for everyone else. Zard still loses to Slowbro which btw very broken towards physical attackers. Now is Char the best all-rounder, no. Not when Blaziken & Ceruledge are pup stomping the meta right now. Their the ones that players should be banning not Zard. Also I won’t be surprised if Tsareena’s Ult gets the same buffs Charizard got where it counters unstoppable moves. Why, because hers also bounds the opponent except hers is cancelable. And then ya would want to frame 1 ban Tsareena cuz her Unite bounds like Slowbros, Charizards & Mimikyus. Learn the matchups & figure out a way to minimize your chances of getting ulted by bound unites.
do you think Charizard is too strong now?
yesss,
The ult is too oppressive
The mon itself is fine
There should be counter play against zard ult
Definitely, Charizard is at its prime.
But the regular move sets and nerf the ultimate.
Nah
“Lets give an all rounder Slowbro Unite😃”
@@LadiIluyomade-pf6qe that's not at all the same doofus slowbro leaves you stuns able to act for a LONG time healing itself and tanky af. charizard can still take damage and die and doesn't leave you unable to move he can also still be targeted by mean or other bonded ults yall just get outplayed slowbro and mimimyu is way more broken. Mimikyu can't even take damage
@@LadiIluyomade-pf6qe just because it's not cancelable like slowbro it's a slowbro unite? No and mimikyu, another all arounder which is actually closer to a slowbro unite except can't take damage while he damages you yall complaining about the wrong all arounder
@@Floppy_Shmeatthey're annoying for diferent reasons, Charizard deals lots of damage during teamfights while the health steal, speed and hindrance resistance allows you to pursue or escape the enemy
I’m glad char ult cancels slowbro unite, thanks for the free get out of jail card and 90% unite move gauge for slowbro sucker. Or was it the opposite? Idk since it’s been a few days since I’ve played
Char be gettin scary.
If it unites in group fights it’s kinda wraps if your team isn’t tanky and then the chars rack up Pentas like it’s nothing
God that snorlax was so annoying.. Holy
I can hear Chris' voice when I read that "holy"
You’re
I’m a big fan of charging charm on char. The movement speed + buffs to it work so well with chars kit
Idk why, but my past 3 matches there have been greninja carry’s on the enemy team. Looks like he’s climbing back up.
good greninja players are scary
I see people ban Char in draft yet let Oh-ho, Umbreon, Delphox, and other more annoying picks play. Char is at his best but is no where near as a threat as others.
To be fair there are probably more annoying Pokemon you'll be forced to fight no matter what than you can ban. Zard, Ceru, Urshifu, Ho-Oh, Delphox.
There are a lot of pokémon that are annoying to fight against. Four bans won't cover them all. I'm not a fan of unites design and balance methodology anymore.
What removing the counterplay to one of the best Unites in the game does to the Meta
@@drxavier1870 what's removing the counterclaim? Making cancelable if you're unstoppable that's dumb then you're left lunged into an enemy sitting there wait to die
@@drxavier1870 on top of that you're left at 95% charge like what?? I basically die because I got my ult cancel an unstoppable a status that's on regular moves that keep coming up after cooldown. how it is now is fair because Slowbro, Mimikyu can't and people just let that slide but when charizard's can't it's not. It's fair now slowbro cancel char, Mimikyu can cancel char but now char can cancel them too that's great because unlike Mimikyu char can still take damage during unite
@@Floppy_Shmeatwhile I agree with what you’re saying, mimikyu does take damage in its unite.
@@Floppy_Shmeat Yeah thats what i mean, Charachters in team fighting games are suppose to have checks and counters to every charachter to make it more interactive
Falinks being immune to Azumarill's Huge Power is a great example of a good counter
But Charizard's Unite wich is a single target grab that can borderline insta-kill anything that isnt a Defender or insane survivability. Being able to outplay people who mindlessely spam Charizard Unite was good
Charizard players that were able to bait out Full Heals and other Unstoppable effects were also reward skill
Removing the prediction skill of Char Unite and rewarding people who mindlessely use it to kill anyone they feel like is bad and as you can see, Charizard is the highest Winrate in the game because they made his Unite have 0 way to stop it outside of Slowbro
So we have 3 Pokémon with bind unites now. Imagine a team with all 3.
Char, Tsaarena, Mimikyu, and Slowbro that I can think of. That's 4 already, and I'm sure I'm forggeting someone
Lane Charizard is still a massive throw right? Or is it still worth picking Charizard even if you have a jungler already?
I run lane char all the time you just have to be extra careful of position and map awareness.
The base kit isn't anywhere near as weak as it used to be. It's definitely a sub-optimal lane choice but there are worse
You can ult char with slowbro after the grab
i didn't realize charging charm charges so fast on charizard
@CrisHeroes why is breaking top lane first goal early a bad thing? I personally like it because if you then win regileki it's an instant danger for 2nd goal top lane. And if enemy team takes it down with their whole squad it's a free goal in bottom lane.
I get that having more wild pokemon at the start helps, but that's why I don't break bottoms lane first goal (more points from wild pokemon than top lane)
Hey Cris, is stacking on Charizard mandatory? I am currently running MuscleBand, ScopeLens and EnergyAmplifier on Charizard with the Flamethrower FireBlast build.
wich website is this, where you see tha winrates of the pokemon
Most players where I'm from already knew who i was as a char main, so whenever draft comes and i see someone at the enemy side that i know of gets to ban char which i though was funny.
I can play any pokemon in the game and decides to ban my main guy... well there's 2 that i main
Charizard unite moved me when i was in absol's unite animation
lmao if i played "take a shot everytime enemy mimik misses their move" i might be a bit drunk after this vid
How does garchomp have the third highest winrate?
Was the build charm weight and lens??
Yes
Hey Cris. Keep the pressure on!
How do you do to play at 60 FPS?
I found a counter to Charizard unite while getting unite moved by Charizard use sheninja doll and hope for best
Honestly, I just started running buddy barrier on my all-rounders. It helps against Mimikyu and slowbro too... unless I'm the one who was United
@@dionjones6300 lol
The unite move always feels personal
And last game my teammate pinged me the entire game for banning Charizard. 😅
Well, that depends on the context of the entire thing. Did this teammate choose charizard and the enemy not ban it and then you banned it? Cause if that’s the case, you’re trolling.
@@trainerrichard6859 The enemy had the first pick so I didn't want to give them a chance of taking Charizard but in doing that I upset my teammate.
@@shauryanegi6553 Eh, imo charizard ain't nearly as problematic as people make him out to be, but I can at least understand why you did what you did but if your teammate picks a pokemon and your enemies didn't ban it, banning it is a 100% lame thing to do. I can't tell you how many times I had picked ho-oh the enemy didn't ban it, I had first pick but lo and behold my own teammate bans it as the second pick.
@@trainerrichard6859S tier on all the tier list even by profesional ppl, and biggest win rate🧍🧍🧍🧍🧍🧍
Guys it is not scary until you have a slowbro in your team or mimikyu . I never lost a match where a charizard is in opponent team and i annoyed the hell out of the charizard with slowbro. But Rip if you don't have anyone of them to counter it . Its a monster with its unite
I think Charizard without the unite move is just mid, it's not really good or really bad, it's just mid
A buff to fire blast getting a shield like flare blitz would be interesting
Nerfing the unite move to be cancelable only against full heal would be nice for counter play
Why dont you use platinum ho oh emblem?
Charizard is good but the problem is its unite move
I don't fully agree. The unite has always been it's selling point but it's always had issues in its design, which is kind of true for the evolution system as a whole. The game heavily favors a strong early game. The base kit sucked really bad before. When the Unite took too many nerfs, Char was terrible. When the base kit gets too many buffs (looking at you Flamethrower) you can't run away from it.
The Bind buff AND the movement boosts together however is definitely too much power fantasy for my tastes. I always liked the Mon even when it sucked, now it leaves a bad taste in my mouth 😂
Charizard is strong but he doesn't feel broken. I'd rather ban something like ceruledge over Char. As while Char is strong his moves never felt as oppressive as Ceruledge Slow bro or Ho oh.
I think the unite move is the main problem with being oppressive. I typically try to ban the 3 you named and Char in unite draft. I typically use energy amp so getting those unite moves at every big fight is insanely strong especially against a team of squishies. Maybe tune the damage down a bit but I’m enjoying finally not getting canceled out of my unite all the time.
Slow beam needs a rework but I'm not overly concerned with the rest of the kit (though, Slowbro is problematic as a design). Ho-Oh is mitigation machine but I don't know how I'd like it to change yet. I stopped playing it after having it for 10 days or so.
The damage set is pretty fun, but not janky enough (the game favors jank) and I'd like to see changes to the Unite linking resurrections to the map. (Which I also want to apply to other legendaries)
@@dionjones6300 that’s completely valid slo bro without his unite I have no problems with but idk how to tweak it to still do what it should but not be as oppressive
Cris is it ok to break the first enemy goal at 7 minutes.
Imagine watching this video out of context a year ago 😂
Keep the pressure on!
Hope he doesnt get nerfed too soon, this game cant stop not allowing happiness for too long
love ur vids cris
Can you make a fire punch fire blast Zard vid??
Can someone explain why it can be bad to break a goal zone at some point, like in this game?
Breaking goal zones super early leads to your team getting a lot less farm that they can secure easily. Hence you will be deprived of levels while the enemy get free farms on their side and can get back from behind the game.
you lose neutral farm and enemy gets safe farm (indeedees and altarias). when you break early there’s high likelihood of breaking with bad overcaps. if you were stomping hard in the early game, breaking too early is one of the easiest ways to lose your advantage. then they lost first bot regi in this match, despite breaking both goals, which pushed more exp to the other team. breaking the tier 2 goal improved the game state by getting more exp from kos/scores/stealing safe farm and increasing map pressure on other team
Well I just started the game 2 weeks ago and have in ranked a 96% winrate with rizzard
Out of 50 games
Great video
That snorlax needs help
Flare Blitz shield is just too high
@@themarimo3324 no it's not da fock? lol it was ass before because it was too low it's totally fine now otherwise it would suck
I call it and MY BOI GARCHOMP IN TOP 3, Let's Gooooooooo
highest wr cus its almost ways first picked when not banned
Started playing unite like 3 months ago after leaving other games (marvel snap, black clover) because the playerbase would always complain about units they don't like being unbalanced and seems like i can't escape the "this unit feels too strong because i keep losing to it, please nerf" nerds 😤 out of all people is always the content creators starting these trends then they wonder why there not enough content
Would you still love me if I was a worm?
Nah I'd pass
Wdym by still, I dont love you…
Everyone still bans Charizard as I already knew he now dominates every game. And you know what, I'm fine with him banned in draft. I'll still use Slowbro cuz LOL
Nerf the slam damage of the Unite and the movement speed on flamethrower.
fire punch and flare blitz still suck ass
Play for objective whats that
U wanna fight and fight and die then ask
Unless you have a commanding lead, the last objective is really important. You can bet any car worth their assault is going to be at that objective and they're going to turn that fight from a 5v5 to a 5v4 not in your favor unless your team cares enough to run buddy barrier, strong area denial, or counter picks.
charging charm is one of the weakest items
Yo solo lo negro porque me cae mal, odio cuando ultea, super castroso que te agarre siendo imparable
Char ult shouldn't be allowed to pick unstoppable mons. Slowbro and mimi ults were at least single target but char's isn't. You don't even have to worry about who to pick unlike the other two.
The thing they could done for it's unite is making the ult itself unstoppable or just better self heal with the ult. Another good way could have make it like the beta version as in the ult was two staged, the first stage being the basic attack buff while the second stage being the slam and your unite will end after the slam.
@@lloydter that's stupid with a slowbro and mimikyu unite you die pretty much instantly. Slowbro takes no damage and stuns you forever and you can't use potion, eject, xspeed run to your healer nothing, mimikyu takes no damage and immobilize you no chance to escape and damages you hella. Charizard slams you once and you're free to move around and he can still be stopped by mean look, mew unite, even chandlure obscure his vision, hide in grass then eject or xspeed, or any other bonded ult and oh he can also take damage and die during his unite unlike those other 2 so no it's still not broken like those two and it's not OP or unfair there's definitely ways around it and he can get killed while ulting
Char is really good and also im first
Cris was first
@@tajten😅 yeah
Charizard is the goat
Good pokemon but not broken. It's too weak before 5. It is definitely a tier pick that deserves being banned, but you can just take other tier picks when your opposing team picks char.
y’all act like mimikyu ult doesn’t exist
There's counterplay built-in to that move. Mimikyu isn't a great design either.
I still think it's rough to be the only all-arounder on ur team as char. Just takes so long to come online and w/o unite u lose to just about every other all around 1v1. However if u get a good start on char it's pretty damn good.
Nuh uh
Wait they did not buff any skills but made the ultimate unstoppable and that made charizard invincible, whenever I pick char I mostly win the games.
You must be playing against bots because im in 1400+ master and he gets banned 95% of the time and when he doesn't get banned he can't solo carry if the team is not supporting him
@@InsertmewtwoquoteI use x attack and carry the game easily, I’m 1500 plus master with 70+ % winrate charizard. No bot matches
He unite moves to often. They need to nerf the charge rate of his unite and I think he should be fine
You can always score or farm your Unite rate since they reward a flat percentage rather than specific numbers.
Holding your Units for the right moment also isn't a challenge
Just mute snorlax for the love of god I couldn't watch the entire game
Charizard is just fine as is. Hell i’d argue Char still needs buffs; just not much anymore. People complain too much about a pokemon getting certain buffs they desprately needed & then all of a sudden, they’re shining brightly in the meta now. Btw, people also need & I mean “NEED” to learn the matchup with Charizard & the same applies for everyone else. Zard still loses to Slowbro which btw very broken towards physical attackers. Now is Char the best all-rounder, no. Not when Blaziken & Ceruledge are pup stomping the meta right now. Their the ones that players should be banning not Zard. Also I won’t be surprised if Tsareena’s Ult gets the same buffs Charizard got where it counters unstoppable moves. Why, because hers also bounds the opponent except hers is cancelable. And then ya would want to frame 1 ban Tsareena cuz her Unite bounds like Slowbros, Charizards & Mimikyus. Learn the matchups & figure out a way to minimize your chances of getting ulted by bound unites.
Charizard is basically the best all-rounder in the game, it is and should be banned