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Loyalist Fulgrim put it pretty well, he said something to the effect of "Dude you're a primarch, if you want to take a year off to go build some shit nobody is gonna stop you."
I don't think that's the problem here, at least that is my interpetation. Perturabo indeed wanted to be an innovator and a builder however genetic manipulation of Emperor basically forced him to be only fully appreciative (is that a Word?i think ) only of creation of his sieging equipment and weapons. When Corvus Corax was creating new genestock, the guy from Mechanicum specifically mentions fourth legion's geenseed to be really manipulated to make them tougher,bitter and specialized in a sieging warfare if i remember corectly. This why Perturabo's first Instinct was to create a weapon as a first thing to his adoptive father on Olympia. He can't help himself for the most part, he is designed to make killing tools, vacations to him probably wouldn't feel Right to him because of his design let's call it. It's just his soul is a different thing it seems
When he's well written Perturabo is one of the best Primarchs in the lore. Smashing Fulgrim's face into a Warhound model or being genuinely happy when Magnus recovers from his injuries for example.
You would think that necrons would be the antithesis of tyranids. One race being a bunch of non-organic immortal death machines that use flesh eating weapons as their primary weapon and the other being a horde of bio-monsters who's only interest is consuming biomass and have weapons mainly tailored to handle other biological lifeforms. Granted, the tyranids can adapt their hive fleets to specialize against a particular threat, but they still have the disadvantage of having their entire arsenal being biological.
@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 Lmao Perturabo broke a very important artifact infront of Magnus to "teach him a lesson" + literally saying "you didnt do anything nor save a single life" after Magnus sacrificed 24 of his sons to prevent a starship from crashing to Morningstar Cadia style.
Iron warriors are my favourite traitor Legion. Thanks for covering them. I like their practicality and how stubborn they are. I like how they try and use chaos for their own ends rather than blindly worshipping it. I also like how they seem to have the most understandable reason to betray the Imperium. Centuries of hard work, doing the shitty job no one else wanted to do, and thankless self sacrifice, without proper credit, is bound to make something snap. Also, Perturabo managing to direct the disobedient and crazed forces of chaos on the seige of Terra is nothing short of commendable. He is a very unlikeable person though. Edit: when I say "unlikeable person" I mean he isn't good at making others like him. His social and diplomatic skills are not his strength. I myself really like Perturabo as a character.
@Human Person But even Emperoro (or Malcador )said if he kept that kind of attidude he would have no friend. And true to that, the only friend he had was Magnus and he wasnt even close friend
@@minhducnguyen674 Yep, Perturabo was an asshole to Magnus just look at the events of Morningstar : Magnus our boi sacrificed 20+ of his sons to stop a starship from crashing to the Morningstar Cadia Style and Pert said "Lmao you didnt do shit and saved no one" after he saved everyone on the planet lmao. Plus him breaking a very important commissioned artifact infront of Magnus to "teach him a lesson".
perty is flawed and that makes him perfect in my eyes like dudes a badass with pretty bad PTSD who just wanted to be a scholar but eventually realised that wasn't his destiny.
The problem with Perterabo is that he embodies aspects of chaos that arent inherently evil. In the black-and-grey morality of 40k, Perty is about as grey as it gets. Thats why I like him. He's not just some rage-tard like Angron or possessed like Fulgrim. He's a relatively decent primarch who picked the wrong side in the war.
I don't know, the part where he doesn't give a shit about how many of his soldiers die due to his orders, even before siding with chaos, makes him kinda shit in my eyes.
Would the Imperium have been any better? The reason his legion turned on them is because they became the battered work mule of the Imperium. No one thought twice to throw the Iron Warriors into the meat grinder, nor did anyone care when they actually completed their mission. At least now they have some autonomy.
@@Askorti Well, from what I see, it is rather normal in 40k to not care of how many of your soldiers die. The inquisition don't hesitate to exterminate loyal soldier to make sure there are no corruption. The ork and tyranids doesn't give a shit neither. Tell me, who really care about their soldiers? It is a minority.
Perterabo: *almost gets fucked over by Chaos, thus giving him a major reason to not join Chaos* Also Perterabo: *stays with Chaos just to spite Adornable*
@@bryanmanuel4945 His favorite army build is also Custodes. Could Cavil be the Emperor!? Jokes aside the photo just works too well, someone cast that man as the Emperor in a 40k film, he'd probably do it.
the ironic part if he just hangs around with the adeptus mechanicus more he will not fall to chaos in the first place because he will get all the praise he ever wanted from the mechanicus
Chatles Lorenzo all he wver wanted was to build and invent, there is a story where he build a functioning miniature warhoudn titan out of clockworks for which he even created an ai to control it, but he destroyed it to teach fulgrim some lesson. he wanted to create but he was send to siege angain again and again. no wonder he grew desilusioned and became a traitor
@@timmaximilian9286 but why didnt he not say to his boys ok i leave the empire and do my own shit whos gonna follow? and started a renegade marines faction himself insted of joining chaos wich is also going to wreck his toys sooner or later?
@@Irobert1115HD good question. I think that Perturabo pledged himself to Horus's service fairly early in the heresy. Horus could be very persuasive and so I think it was his influence that contributed to the IW's association to chaos. They didnt really know what they were signing up for, at least not at first
@@Irobert1115HD pert's thing is that he really wants praise and displays of approval, which the emperor wasn't really providing. Pledging himself to horus also gave pert the chance to strike at Dorn
Honestly, Iron Warriors have a lot of potential to make for interesting characters, because they're the bad guys, but unlike most other people working for choas, they aren't gibbering madmen, generally being fairly rational fairly rational, and most of them working for the ruinous powers in-name-only (if even that) because they feel that they have been wronged/betrayed, not because they actually like the literal forces of Space Hell. That combined with the fact that they are actually disciplined, and aside from occasional infighting, they can actually organize and get things done, means that a lot could be done with them, and them still being mostly normal people by space marine standards could lead to compelling characters being made out of them with interesting dynamics (kind of like some of the Night Lords), but they never really get screentime, outside of being the targets of loyalist bolters.
the thing i want is a legit iron warriors novel that shows that, Storm of Iron, while being a good novel, shows iron warriors pracitcally worshipping chaos and on the fence of being gibbering madmen
@@Rammkommando Exactly. Storm of Iron and the individual Honsou stories were good, but they were written, what, almost 20 years ago? The Iron Warriors hadn't really been established as who they are by that point, if that makes sense. A proper novel that focuses on the Iron Warriors, where they get to, you know, act like Iron Warriors, would be really great, and the writer could really explore the potential for character and complexity in the legion.
I hope in TTS at least that perty ends up redeemed like Magnus, the man has a lot of potential and I hope him and Dorn can at least have a friendlier rivalry.
alex robertson ehem... Battlemace 40.000.000 At least that was what Vulkan was playing and painting for millenina in the darkest corner of the galaxy for no reason until Magnus and Kitten went to Nocturne.
@@eyeballpapercut4400 in TTS, yeah, I want perty to come back and be redeemed like magnus. Tbh I always felt bad for perty, he got used his whole life.
Perturabo: “Why is this Majorkill being so mean to me?” Tzeentch: “He lives in a constant hellscape even the forces of Chaos dare not touch.” Perturabo: “Oh..”
p:wait dont you usually bully magnus and his sons? why are you here? tzeench:wellll i got a little tired of the trolling,and its getting stale,so me being well the god of change here we are. p:oh ok fair enough. *gets a call* sorry hold on. hello perturabo speaking. oh shit abbadon? hey whatup? yeah im ok, how's my stuff? good good, another one? abbadon you can't keep doing this to yourse-....wait what!? how!? hold up who!? ...magnus and fucking what!? ....uh tzeench? weee may have a problem tzeench:yeah i saw that coming but surprise me. p:...magnus,the thousand sons,mortarion and whatever left of his own sons and a clone of fulgrim are back with big e. annnnnd thats not all. guilaman,corvus,leman and jaghatai are back tzeench:......i didnt see most of that coming. NOT AS PLANNED! dufjsjgjdjvuschsjvhdcjdjdjfusgjsjgjsg perturabo:....we are so fucked. we need to stop abbadon now!
As someone who lives here I disagree The bush is actually very nice aside from the heat nobody will bother you and there's a shop nearby so that's nice
I just love the thin line between tragic villains and spiteful shitlords the Iron Warriors thread. It lines perfectly with the inconsistency of their own Primarch (thanks to the 50 different authors writing about him).
i have mixed feelings about the iron warriors and perty. the “kill every 10th man” is massive douche energy. but in one of the books fulgrim shows him a vision of perty’s utopia on his home planet, with perty a peaceful scholar leading and governing his people, and there’s more insight when the setting is perty’s personal chambers/workshop. he created so much stuff, including a perfectly working tiny warhound titan. then he smashed the mini titan with fulgrim’s face and it was pretty funny.
I just realized the visions of good lives many Primarchs and other people in 40K have been shown could very easily co-exist. Which makes me wonder....is their universe even real to them or is it *they* who are the "what if" vision existing through the Warp's energies unleashed by the birth of Slaanesh? Perhaps their "visions" are actually them seeing the true reality and the setting is just a nightmare in the Warp. It would be very 40K for that to be revealed and, by extension, that all of their trials and suffering and victories for ten millennia never meant anything at all because the very universe they live in does not exist. They just think it does.
Well not exactly for no reason. Perturabo saw his legion as failures due to their not so great combat record so he ordered the elimination of a tenth of his legion as a purge/punishment. Its inspired by a roman practice in the legions when the randombly choosen 10th legionare gets the punishment.
I LOVE the Iron Warriors for being smarter than most Space Marine chapters, Loyalist AND Traitor, by blowing up their enemies with giant guns rather than charge into melee. They also don't really worship or trust any particular daemons like the other Traitors. Instead they just catch them, shove them into machines, and make them fight like Pokemon with guns. So Digimon, basically.
So well said! I love them personally. Their cold, emotionless efficiency and war machines are down right terrifying to face in battle. In my mind they're not really all that corrupted like the other traitor legiona, they're just f*cking evil! For example their daemonculaba project sums them up quite well. Cold, efficient and focused on their goal no matter the cost or collateral damage. They just don't give a f*uck.
After heresy? Probably the Emperor's children because they are rapey traitor heretic to the imperium and some fucked up dudes that never stay focus on the mission to other traitors space marines.
Perturabo: a super nerd who knows everything and builds wonders the likes that no common man could even dream of, let alone create. Also Perturabo: hey guys, let's fight and die like if WW1 never ran out of style, despite having spaceships, guns, tanks and supersoldiers!
"Dad! Dad! Dad!" "Nice to meet you at last, son (sort of). Here, have a legion. They're your sons (sort of)." "Thanks!" "... is it me or is your legion... smaller?" "Oh! Yeah, I had 9/10 of them beat the other 10% to death." "..." "Didn't want to waste the ammo." "..." "That'll learn 'em."
Same. Lots of sssss sounds and the improved raw sounds a bit better. But really, there all about the same. I would honestly say whatever is easier and less likely to f up on you in the long run.
(I like Perty, as well as the Iron Warriors. If I had to play Chaos, I'd star there haha.) I believe Perty is a pretty interesting character. Like Majorkill said, he is one of the traitor primarch that has a valid reason to become one, but the way he became one is a weak one. But hey... nobody's perfect.
@@DeinosCZ in my opinion the iron Warriors are possibly the most interesting and more dangerous compared to the other traitor Legions 1 there Primark is actually doing a good job and actually helping his own troops be more usefull 2 perty is not Abaddon
@@chatleslorenzo6164 That's why it's your opinion. Black Legion has the largest number of CSM, sorcerers, titans, and warships. Abaddon might not be the best but one cannot deny he is the best at leadership
Yeah, like the ending of the book. Where he realises what he’s done and gets hit with the phattest moment of clarity he’s ever had. That whole last monologue as Forrix walks in, hit me man
I need a warhamer 40k novel that, instead of starting with " in the grim darkness..." started with "...the galaxy was just a big old pair of cheeks that needed to be clap..."
I think a big part you missed was that he actually liked making things that benefitted people more than damaging but his “dads” kept using him for his violence. Just interesting. He had a bunch of plans and schematics but nobody cared about those. I used to think magnus’ fall was the worst but after reading his book I changed my mind. That part with his sister scolding him too was great. Essential saying dude the emporer loved, trusted and appreciated you the most that’s why he sent you to shit places because he knew you could handle it.
Or rather: "You are the ONLY one who can handle those, because you are so great in your perception and understanding of the situation, my son". Smth like that was there.
I think perty ascended to deamonhood because he was slowly dieing from what fulgrim did to him, i don't see any other viable reasoning since he rejected nurgle, maybe he saw it as his only way to escape death, at least that's my theory.
Now that i think about it who technically owns the souls of the chaos primarch demons of undivided Belakor? It seems weird to have 4 different gods own your soul and your some how not a puddle of chaos spawn
Saw a theory that pert just did what corax did and kinda harnessed the warp cause corax is now practically a deamon prince right and people thought he was a deamon so pert might have done something similar.
We train with those okay? Don’t knock it til you try it. We commended Ancient Vyron on his round ball called a ‘Death Star’ creation. It truly is quite magnificent!
I only see Perty getting more screen time when and if Dorn return. As scary as the tyranids and necrons are the thing that they lack is a personal conection as enemies. Sure most want to kill all humans but I find more interest in antagonist that want represent a threat to a single character or faction that I like, the fight is more interesting that way. Perty vs Dorn us obvious but I would like to read abot Angron vs our hawk boy as Angron is a twisted mirror what the blood angels could have been. Heck Magnus most memorable war crimes were against the space wolves.
Honestly if they remained renegades instead of falling to chaos making them look like hypocrites they would be my favorite chapter. Their primarch while winey had moments of badassery. One notable moment being when he went against demon form angron.
You know all the Primarch seem to have daddy issues and more than half of them act like actual children but Perturabo actually acts like a toldler built like a mechanical planet.
Barnaby Duggan Dude simply became somewhat of a favorite but not in the way he’d liked, Emps noticed his conviction and faith so why no send your toughest son too the toughest fights though Perty was an idiot and didn’t actually use tactics but merely loved grinding meat and metal and hearing the sound, also dude was not the most put together of course; his cold logic wasn’t really grounded beyond himself and his daddy issues which was his real fall.
@@malekiththeeternityking5433 Emperor I think I know why you played favoritism. You sure are a pragamtic asshole but one that never wavered to sacrfice himself for Mankind
I love the fact he basically beat Angron the same way Farsight beat the Orks... "Just don't do melee. Just shoot them. Preferably not even that. They'll get bored eventually."
“NO! we’re not going to throw the will of eternity at cadia, just strap massive guns to it and we have a valuable resource you fuck wits! just destroy the planetary defenses first, retreat and then nuke it to oblivion!”
That would go badly so fast. I don't think hew would have been a traitor, but several other primarchs I see defecting because of his orders or him declaring them traitors for disobeying him.
From a lot of the short stories and codex campaigns I've read, the Iron Warriors really seem to be among the most logical and tactical forces used by Chaos. Most "warp smiths" (outside of the Dark Mechanicus) that actually make and maintain Chaos's ships, vehicles, and weapons are Iron Warriors. The Iron Warriors have a logical and methodical approach to combat, rather than charging in like berserk retards like the World Eaters, or relying on warp magic to do most of the heavy lifting like the Death Guard or Thousand Sons. One of my favorite stories is about an Iron Warriors dreadnought who becomes a ruler of a planet, and invites several other Chaos warband generals (who were from newer generations of traitors) to his palace to tell him an epic story of their combat deeds in exchange for some Eldar soulstones and other loot. None of the generals can impress the Iron Warrior dreadnought guy, and he basically calls them a bunch of worthless whippersnappers; and him and his minions kill all of the visitors except a Thousand Sons guy who steals the loot and escapes using some Tzeentch hax.
I love the fact how Maiorkill edited a picture of God Emperor and Henry cavill especially how recently Cavill asked publicly that if GW does a 40k movie he wants to be a primarch
I really like the image here on 3:34 because of how it's also present on rogal dorn's video. In a way really showing how the two bob the builders really are just two sides of the same coin, like whilst the warp died around dorn. The eye of terror was always present for perty and also how dorn had to learn all the things he needed as a builder from his grandfather, while perty pretty much knew everything from the get go I wonder who drew this and that
Interestingly, Big E intended on creating 50 Primarchs and 50 Legions. Captain General Valdor and Amar Astarte only managed to save 20 of the vials before Astarte’s lab burned.
I'm glad you're doing well. First video from you I ever saw was the one about Vermintide lore, like 6 months ago. I see you channel has grown since then. Good luck
Thanks for covering my favorite Traitor Legion. Perturabo is the one demon primarch that should be the Warmaster of Chaos, instead of that failure Abaddon. Perturabo is perfect for the role! Hates the Imperium, hates the Emperor, doesn't care about loses or any lives of anyone, actually plays-to-win and not cause damage or some ridiculous excuses for a war goals that Abaddon has 12 times out of 13.
Hahahahahaha, that's funny unlike the Greatest of them All Lord Guillotine, Perturabo shall be forever a virgin. Macha has a better chance of getting laid. Not even the Great Undivided Beast could get Perturabo laid.
Puerturabo is my favorite builder bro and my fourth favorite primarch with that said, I feel bad for him and I believe he's the one chaos primarch that can redeem himself and join the imperium once again.
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Perty is an asshole... but is it his fault?
Yes of course he is, stop defending him
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It is funny that the Lord of iron is a snow flake
The second sounds best to me, although your voice is good anyway.
Nough!
maybe the ultra marines are so strong because they pledged their souls to the smurfs. i think the smurfs bring luck or something.
Loyalist Fulgrim put it pretty well, he said something to the effect of "Dude you're a primarch, if you want to take a year off to go build some shit nobody is gonna stop you."
Awesome! Do you know which book?
all perturabo needed was a vacation. and a hobby outside of killing shit.
what book was that from.
Angel exterminatus i believe?
I don't think that's the problem here, at least that is my interpetation. Perturabo indeed wanted to be an innovator and a builder however genetic manipulation of Emperor basically forced him to be only fully appreciative (is that a Word?i think ) only of creation of his sieging equipment and weapons. When Corvus Corax was creating new genestock, the guy from Mechanicum specifically mentions fourth legion's geenseed to be really manipulated to make them tougher,bitter and specialized in a sieging warfare if i remember corectly. This why Perturabo's first Instinct was to create a weapon as a first thing to his adoptive father on Olympia. He can't help himself for the most part, he is designed to make killing tools, vacations to him probably wouldn't feel Right to him because of his design let's call it. It's just his soul is a different thing it seems
"Your primarch is dead"
"At least mine liked me"
That hurt
Iron Hand roasts an Iron Warrior. M42 colorized.
Oof
@@MR.LMR1996 imperial isn’t roast an iron warrior
"Your primarch is so fat, he makes nurgle look like a super model!!"
I love the fact the Iron Warriors actually played table-top miniature wargames in their spare time.
*perfection*
Perturabo: "Reset the scenario and someone pass me the tin of D6"
The iron warriors are bigger nerds than the thousand sons?
@@mastercharlesdiltardino8058
No. It's practising strategy.
@@TheKing-qz9wd that's the sort of excuse a nerd who plays with dolls would use.
When he's well written Perturabo is one of the best Primarchs in the lore. Smashing Fulgrim's face into a Warhound model or being genuinely happy when Magnus recovers from his injuries for example.
oh for sure, Perturabo needed Forgebreaker to serve as a crutch to ease the burden of carrying all the traitor legions during the Horus Heresy.
“Necrons slowly becoming the protagonists of the setting”
I wish, sincerely a necron player
*Necrons Master Race*
Well because Tyranids are becoming the endgame.
The Silent King is coming back.
Darth Xader well Necrons do have one of the largest range of units outside Space Marines
You would think that necrons would be the antithesis of tyranids. One race being a bunch of non-organic immortal death machines that use flesh eating weapons as their primary weapon and the other being a horde of bio-monsters who's only interest is consuming biomass and have weapons mainly tailored to handle other biological lifeforms. Granted, the tyranids can adapt their hive fleets to specialize against a particular threat, but they still have the disadvantage of having their entire arsenal being biological.
Perturabo: siege
Rogal Dorn: fortify
Rinse and repeat.
That’s it. That’s essentially it.
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Imperial Fist sees Iron Warrior: "You have a shovel, typical Iron Warrior."
@@ignispurgatio7400 SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEG SIEG SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE !!!!!!
@@jeremynikijuluwstanevil7551 *F O R T I F Y*
"You don't know the things I dream. No one does, no one ever cared enough to find out."
-Lord of Iron, Primarch of the Iron Warriors, Perturabo
Booo hooo
Yeah, it's not like Konrad also had traumatic visions...
Multiple people tried to get to know him better and he shoved them aside
@@hellblaze10 that too. Even Magnus, who could've been helpful in both situations, was completely useless.
@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 Lmao Perturabo broke a very important artifact infront of Magnus to "teach him a lesson" + literally saying "you didnt do anything nor save a single life" after Magnus sacrificed 24 of his sons to prevent a starship from crashing to Morningstar Cadia style.
Iron warriors are my favourite traitor Legion. Thanks for covering them. I like their practicality and how stubborn they are. I like how they try and use chaos for their own ends rather than blindly worshipping it. I also like how they seem to have the most understandable reason to betray the Imperium. Centuries of hard work, doing the shitty job no one else wanted to do, and thankless self sacrifice, without proper credit, is bound to make something snap. Also, Perturabo managing to direct the disobedient and crazed forces of chaos on the seige of Terra is nothing short of commendable. He is a very unlikeable person though.
Edit: when I say "unlikeable person" I mean he isn't good at making others like him. His social and diplomatic skills are not his strength. I myself really like Perturabo as a character.
@Human Person But even Emperoro (or Malcador )said if he kept that kind of attidude he would have no friend. And true to that, the only friend he had was Magnus and he wasnt even close friend
@@minhducnguyen674 Yep, Perturabo was an asshole to Magnus just look at the events of Morningstar : Magnus our boi sacrificed 20+ of his sons to stop a starship from crashing to the Morningstar Cadia Style and Pert said "Lmao you didnt do shit and saved no one" after he saved everyone on the planet lmao. Plus him breaking a very important commissioned artifact infront of Magnus to "teach him a lesson".
@@flameknightplayz2939 I'm surprised if they were still friend after that shit
perty is flawed and that makes him perfect in my eyes like dudes a badass with pretty bad PTSD who just wanted to be a scholar but eventually realised that wasn't his destiny.
@@flameknightplayz2939 the teaching lesson thing though makes sense as it was warp fuckery correct and pert knew the emperor didn't like that.
The problem with Perterabo is that he embodies aspects of chaos that arent inherently evil. In the black-and-grey morality of 40k, Perty is about as grey as it gets. Thats why I like him. He's not just some rage-tard like Angron or possessed like Fulgrim. He's a relatively decent primarch who picked the wrong side in the war.
I don't know, the part where he doesn't give a shit about how many of his soldiers die due to his orders, even before siding with chaos, makes him kinda shit in my eyes.
Would the Imperium have been any better? The reason his legion turned on them is because they became the battered work mule of the Imperium. No one thought twice to throw the Iron Warriors into the meat grinder, nor did anyone care when they actually completed their mission. At least now they have some autonomy.
@@Askorti Well, from what I see, it is rather normal in 40k to not care of how many of your soldiers die. The inquisition don't hesitate to exterminate loyal soldier to make sure there are no corruption. The ork and tyranids doesn't give a shit neither. Tell me, who really care about their soldiers? It is a minority.
@@CatherinePuce The Tau do but that's part of the reason people hate the Tau.
@@rayhankazianga6817 You hate them because they care. I though it was one of their quality.
Perterabo: *almost gets fucked over by Chaos, thus giving him a major reason to not join Chaos*
Also Perterabo: *stays with Chaos just to spite Adornable*
yeah this part wasn't the hottest.
The ‘radio’ one sounds the best. It’s a bit louder, too.
Yes
Ye it is.
He should add a slight reverb when he shouts though (other than when it’s at the autistic fuckwad)
Да
Agreed
Okay, Cavill-Emperor of Mankind actually looks cool
Yeah that's a very good photo
@@bryanmanuel4945 His favorite army build is also Custodes. Could Cavil be the Emperor!? Jokes aside the photo just works too well, someone cast that man as the Emperor in a 40k film, he'd probably do it.
@@voidstrider801 Yeah it looks very fitting. Also Cavill was challenged to a 40k game don't know if he responded,
Any other casting choice is heresy.
great
so perturabo was basicaly the perfect tech marine.
the ironic part if he just hangs around with the adeptus mechanicus more he will not fall to chaos in the first place because he will get all the praise he ever wanted from the mechanicus
Chatles Lorenzo all he wver wanted was to build and invent, there is a story where he build a functioning miniature warhoudn titan out of clockworks for which he even created an ai to control it, but he destroyed it to teach fulgrim some lesson. he wanted to create but he was send to siege angain again and again. no wonder he grew desilusioned and became a traitor
@@timmaximilian9286 but why didnt he not say to his boys ok i leave the empire and do my own shit whos gonna follow? and started a renegade marines faction himself insted of joining chaos wich is also going to wreck his toys sooner or later?
@@Irobert1115HD good question. I think that Perturabo pledged himself to Horus's service fairly early in the heresy. Horus could be very persuasive and so I think it was his influence that contributed to the IW's association to chaos. They didnt really know what they were signing up for, at least not at first
@@Irobert1115HD pert's thing is that he really wants praise and displays of approval, which the emperor wasn't really providing. Pledging himself to horus also gave pert the chance to strike at Dorn
Honestly, Iron Warriors have a lot of potential to make for interesting characters, because they're the bad guys, but unlike most other people working for choas, they aren't gibbering madmen, generally being fairly rational fairly rational, and most of them working for the ruinous powers in-name-only (if even that) because they feel that they have been wronged/betrayed, not because they actually like the literal forces of Space Hell. That combined with the fact that they are actually disciplined, and aside from occasional infighting, they can actually organize and get things done, means that a lot could be done with them, and them still being mostly normal people by space marine standards could lead to compelling characters being made out of them with interesting dynamics (kind of like some of the Night Lords), but they never really get screentime, outside of being the targets of loyalist bolters.
they also might be some of the most redeemable (on a case by case basis, not the whole legion)
they also made the demonculaba so everything is possible with the Iron warriors
@@henrypaleveda7760 Aint nobody redeeming Honsou
the thing i want is a legit iron warriors novel that shows that, Storm of Iron, while being a good novel, shows iron warriors pracitcally worshipping chaos and on the fence of being gibbering madmen
@@Rammkommando Exactly. Storm of Iron and the individual Honsou stories were good, but they were written, what, almost 20 years ago? The Iron Warriors hadn't really been established as who they are by that point, if that makes sense. A proper novel that focuses on the Iron Warriors, where they get to, you know, act like Iron Warriors, would be really great, and the writer could really explore the potential for character and complexity in the legion.
I once heard someone describe Perterabo as the "Middle Child" and now I can't unsee it.
he is both a man child and the singly most competent of the primarchs.
I hope in TTS at least that perty ends up redeemed like Magnus, the man has a lot of potential and I hope him and Dorn can at least have a friendlier rivalry.
spinoff where they play warhammer against each other
alex robertson ehem... Battlemace 40.000.000
At least that was what Vulkan was playing and painting for millenina in the darkest corner of the galaxy for no reason until Magnus and Kitten went to Nocturne.
@@ricardodemarco3486 *BattleMace 42 Million
@@eyeballpapercut4400 in TTS, yeah, I want perty to come back and be redeemed like magnus.
Tbh I always felt bad for perty, he got used his whole life.
@@rayhankazianga6817 I'm pretty sure he had depression he wanted to talk about his problems but he couldn't
Perturabo: “Why is this Majorkill being so mean to me?”
Tzeentch: “He lives in a constant hellscape even the forces of Chaos dare not touch.”
Perturabo: “Oh..”
As a person who have family members in Australia I can confirm.
p:wait dont you usually bully magnus and his sons? why are you here?
tzeench:wellll i got a little tired of the trolling,and its getting stale,so me being well the god of change here we are.
p:oh ok fair enough. *gets a call* sorry hold on. hello perturabo speaking. oh shit abbadon? hey whatup? yeah im ok, how's my stuff? good good, another one? abbadon you can't keep doing this to yourse-....wait what!? how!? hold up who!? ...magnus and fucking what!? ....uh tzeench? weee may have a problem
tzeench:yeah i saw that coming but surprise me.
p:...magnus,the thousand sons,mortarion and whatever left of his own sons and a clone of fulgrim are back with big e. annnnnd thats not all. guilaman,corvus,leman and jaghatai are back
tzeench:......i didnt see most of that coming. NOT AS PLANNED! dufjsjgjdjvuschsjvhdcjdjdjfusgjsjgjsg
perturabo:....we are so fucked. we need to stop abbadon now!
As someone who lives here I disagree The bush is actually very nice aside from the heat nobody will bother you and there's a shop nearby so that's nice
@@lolbots686 they were getting morty and the thousand sons back?! man I wish tts continued.
I just love the thin line between tragic villains and spiteful shitlords the Iron Warriors thread.
It lines perfectly with the inconsistency of their own Primarch (thanks to the 50 different authors writing about him).
i have mixed feelings about the iron warriors and perty. the “kill every 10th man” is massive douche energy. but in one of the books fulgrim shows him a vision of perty’s utopia on his home planet, with perty a peaceful scholar leading and governing his people, and there’s more insight when the setting is perty’s personal chambers/workshop. he created so much stuff, including a perfectly working tiny warhound titan. then he smashed the mini titan with fulgrim’s face and it was pretty funny.
I just realized the visions of good lives many Primarchs and other people in 40K have been shown could very easily co-exist. Which makes me wonder....is their universe even real to them or is it *they* who are the "what if" vision existing through the Warp's energies unleashed by the birth of Slaanesh? Perhaps their "visions" are actually them seeing the true reality and the setting is just a nightmare in the Warp. It would be very 40K for that to be revealed and, by extension, that all of their trials and suffering and victories for ten millennia never meant anything at all because the very universe they live in does not exist. They just think it does.
The kill every tenth marine thing is actually a reference to the roman army.
Look up Decimatio i think.
@@pohja4552 Yeah it's to inspire loyalty among his soldiers.
By fear. . .
Which is pretty *perturbed* to say the least
@@takebacktheholyland9306 nice pun,
Perturbed, Perturabo
Perturabo was actually Nurgle's first choice before Morty. But Perturabo told him to go pound salt
Pound SAND…..not salt
@@jamestagge3429 Salt because of the fleshy exposed i guess.
@@jorgelozoya6739 uhh…..I guess sure
I was really feeling for the guy until you got to the part where he killed a tenth of his Legion for no reason.
Well not exactly for no reason. Perturabo saw his legion as failures due to their not so great combat record so he ordered the elimination of a tenth of his legion as a purge/punishment. Its inspired by a roman practice in the legions when the randombly choosen 10th legionare gets the punishment.
@@ShadrackMeduson the decimation. Decem, 10. Basically "the tenning" in ye olde ancient Latin iirc.
@@ShadrackMeduson They were also clubbed to death by their fellow soldiers.
“Yay, I won! what do I get?”
@@usernamunavailiable *BONK*
The improved audio is the best. Radio sounds like timmy
This
Radio has too much hiss and pop for my tastes. Just turn up the volume on improved a bit, and I think it would be the best.
Being an Indian kid myself I feel Sad for iron warriors
Why?
Becoz there efforts were unrecognized just like our donors. Now u get it?
Bryan Manuel cleary didnt watch the vid
@@utkarshjha7778 haha
@@utkarshjha7778 haha
I heard: "Al Gore lost his home state of Tennessee, and in a cold rage the Lord of Iron genocided his planet...." O_O
George W. Bush caused the heresy confirmed.
I think perturabo got tired of trying to stratagize for chaos when no one listens and is now a techmarine for the sisters of silence
Maybe he can bang the woman who don't talk
How the hell does Perty turn his head from side to side without those cables being pulled out?
They pretty much are dreadlocks. They are more loos then they look.
Why would he need to turn his head? If there is something to look at over there he will just command a servitor to bring it to him.
I LOVE the Iron Warriors for being smarter than most Space Marine chapters, Loyalist AND Traitor, by blowing up their enemies with giant guns rather than charge into melee. They also don't really worship or trust any particular daemons like the other Traitors. Instead they just catch them, shove them into machines, and make them fight like Pokemon with guns. So Digimon, basically.
So well said! I love them personally. Their cold, emotionless efficiency and war machines are down right terrifying to face in battle. In my mind they're not really all that corrupted like the other traitor legiona, they're just f*cking evil! For example their daemonculaba project sums them up quite well. Cold, efficient and focused on their goal no matter the cost or collateral damage. They just don't give a f*uck.
You say that the iron Warriors are the most hated Legion, but the night lords and word bearers exist
Fuck Erebus!
What about Black Legion?
After heresy? Probably the Emperor's children because they are rapey traitor heretic to the imperium and some fucked up dudes that never stay focus on the mission to other traitors space marines.
I fucking hate the word bearers
Emperors children buncha degenerates
Perturabo: a super nerd who knows everything and builds wonders the likes that no common man could even dream of, let alone create.
Also Perturabo: hey guys, let's fight and die like if WW1 never ran out of style, despite having spaceships, guns, tanks and supersoldiers!
To be fair there is not a single faction in 40k that uses reasonable strategies
@@schadenfreude7812 and that's one of the reasons we love it.
@@schadenfreude7812 The Raven Guard Tries at least and the Alpha Legion to a degree.
So their the imperial guard of space marines?
I mean ww1 tactics are pretty good since astartes can melee really well and artillery is always good to blow your enemies apart in
"Dad! Dad! Dad!"
"Nice to meet you at last, son (sort of). Here, have a legion. They're your sons (sort of)."
"Thanks!"
"... is it me or is your legion... smaller?"
"Oh! Yeah, I had 9/10 of them beat the other 10% to death."
"..."
"Didn't want to waste the ammo."
"..."
"That'll learn 'em."
you had me laughing out loud. thank you.
I prefer the subtle edit of the raw
same
StringStorm has a Dreadnaught voice tutorial - maybe that would be good for the occasional video
>> ruclips.net/video/sgFNUcekfUM/видео.html
Same. Lots of sssss sounds and the improved raw sounds a bit better. But really, there all about the same. I would honestly say whatever is easier and less likely to f up on you in the long run.
(I like Perty, as well as the Iron Warriors. If I had to play Chaos, I'd star there haha.) I believe Perty is a pretty interesting character. Like Majorkill said, he is one of the traitor primarch that has a valid reason to become one, but the way he became one is a weak one. But hey... nobody's perfect.
Yep I agree
Except Fulgrim
@@CaesarSonOfMars Except Fulgrim indeed XD
@@DeinosCZ in my opinion the iron Warriors are possibly the most interesting and more dangerous compared to the other traitor Legions 1 there Primark is actually doing a good job and actually helping his own troops be more usefull 2 perty is not Abaddon
@@chatleslorenzo6164 That's why it's your opinion. Black Legion has the largest number of CSM, sorcerers, titans, and warships. Abaddon might not be the best but one cannot deny he is the best at leadership
I like the improved raw audio
Perty’s Primarchs book made me feel for him, whilst still being able to see him as a whiner.
That’s why he’s a good character he is flawed but his flaws make sense.
Yeah, like the ending of the book. Where he realises what he’s done and gets hit with the phattest moment of clarity he’s ever had. That whole last monologue as Forrix walks in, hit me man
I need a warhamer 40k novel that, instead of starting with " in the grim darkness..." started with "...the galaxy was just a big old pair of cheeks that needed to be clap..."
I don't care how your voice sounds, as long as I get my Timmy abuse. Great video Majorkill - I've been waiting for this one :)
Honestly iron warriors,death guard,&emperors children & their primarchs are my favorite traitor legions
I like the word bearers but I hate lorgar
I feel similar with the emperors children but they make up for it by having lucius & Fabius bile
Yes Inquisitor, these people right here...
@@dietervonhellstrom9164 u snitch!!
The second one for me the radio sounds like it echoes slightly
Same
I think a big part you missed was that he actually liked making things that benefitted people more than damaging but his “dads” kept using him for his violence. Just interesting. He had a bunch of plans and schematics but nobody cared about those. I used to think magnus’ fall was the worst but after reading his book I changed my mind. That part with his sister scolding him too was great. Essential saying dude the emporer loved, trusted and appreciated you the most that’s why he sent you to shit places because he knew you could handle it.
Or rather: "You are the ONLY one who can handle those, because you are so great in your perception and understanding of the situation, my son".
Smth like that was there.
And also because Perty said nothing.
I think perty ascended to deamonhood because he was slowly dieing from what fulgrim did to him, i don't see any other viable reasoning since he rejected nurgle, maybe he saw it as his only way to escape death, at least that's my theory.
Now that i think about it who technically owns the souls of the chaos primarch demons of undivided Belakor? It seems weird to have 4 different gods own your soul and your some how not a puddle of chaos spawn
Saw a theory that pert just did what corax did and kinda harnessed the warp cause corax is now practically a deamon prince right and people thought he was a deamon so pert might have done something similar.
I agree, being pragmatic to buy himself time. He also gets to USE Chaos, and not give it credit for spoiling him with an eternity of resources.
I think it was because he rejected Nurgle which caused him to ask Tzeentch to turn Perty into a daemon primarch.
I’m just waiting for valraks anger also I like the radio audio
But Majorkill, aren't the biggest manchilds the Imperial Fists? They are playing with legos until today!
We train with those okay? Don’t knock it til you try it. We commended Ancient Vyron on his round ball called a ‘Death Star’ creation. It truly is quite magnificent!
@@imperialfist2304 can we decorate them after you have finished?
-Blood Angels
*_WARNING, it might be destroyed by unbridled rage_*
@@imperialfist2304 Just stay on your phallic fortress and claim it isn't a hint towards your sexuality and we won't bait you with some bunkers again!
Destrorso Sure, but don’t bring the Flesh Tearers we aren’t making that mistake again.
@@imperialfist2304 I said Blood Angels, unfortunately our successors aren't as self-controlled as us
Radio sounds really clear, stick with it.
"In a cold rage, The Lord of Iron..."
He narrates to a picture of Al Gore lmao
Fitting, it was a dark day when Al Gore returned to Tennesee in defeat to decimate the states population.
I only see Perty getting more screen time when and if Dorn return. As scary as the tyranids and necrons are the thing that they lack is a personal conection as enemies. Sure most want to kill all humans but I find more interest in antagonist that want represent a threat to a single character or faction that I like, the fight is more interesting that way.
Perty vs Dorn us obvious but I would like to read abot Angron vs our hawk boy as Angron is a twisted mirror what the blood angels could have been.
Heck Magnus most memorable war crimes were against the space wolves.
Honestly if they remained renegades instead of falling to chaos making them look like hypocrites they would be my favorite chapter. Their primarch while winey had moments of badassery. One notable moment being when he went against demon form angron.
MY FAV LEGION. PUETO WLL BE MAKING WAVES SOON. "IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT"
*From Iron, cometh Strength.*
*From Strength, cometh Will.*
*From Will, cometh Faith.*
*From Faith, cometh Honour.*
*From Honour, cometh Iron.*
*This is the Unbreakable Litany.*
*And may it forever be so.*
You smell of dirt and entitlement
@@croaker5463 well said brother
@@croaker5463 i am very bitter and you are the reason
@@Totoofwarful I know. And I don't care.
You know all the Primarch seem to have daddy issues and more than half of them act like actual children but Perturabo actually acts like a toldler built like a mechanical planet.
I mean his dad was really shitty to him. "Oh you want to build and invent things? Nope! Have endless attrition warfare for you and your sons instead."
@@ProjectEkerTest33 I treated that scumbag the way he deserved.
Barnaby Duggan Dude simply became somewhat of a favorite but not in the way he’d liked, Emps noticed his conviction and faith so why no send your toughest son too the toughest fights though Perty was an idiot and didn’t actually use tactics but merely loved grinding meat and metal and hearing the sound, also dude was not the most put together of course; his cold logic wasn’t really grounded beyond himself and his daddy issues which was his real fall.
@@malekiththeeternityking5433 Emperor I think I know why you played favoritism. You sure are a pragamtic asshole but one that never wavered to sacrfice himself for Mankind
@@malekiththeeternityking5433 hence for you sit unmobile one your Thron
I love the fact he basically beat Angron the same way Farsight beat the Orks...
"Just don't do melee. Just shoot them. Preferably not even that. They'll get bored eventually."
"Galaxy's nastiest prank"- Best description of the Istvaan Massacre I've ever heard.
Angel Exterminatus is such a good book if you want to learn about heresy-era Iron Warriors.
One sec, sorry I’m just wondering why I started this video up and immediately 20 or so dugouts and trenches appeared where I am standing.
Same...except I am now ankle deep in some Iron loser's man-tears.
BROTHER I THINK ITS TIME WE FORIFY THIS SECTION, LET THEM BEAT AT OUR UNWAVERING DOORS WITH THEIR BRITTLE AND BROKEN METAL FOOOOOR THE GLORY OF DORN
Call them iron losers and make fun of their daemon dick gfs they will go away
IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT. *Artillery fire begins
I am fortifying over here, Brother!
“Don’t be a silly sausage unless you want to be castrated”- Majorkill
A wise man
i like the r a w voice the most, its real smooth, and sounds a lot cleaner
Fun fact about the 1/10 thing is that the Roman's also did this when a legion or cohort retreated or showed cowardice
Imagine if Perturabo was the war master instead of abbadon
Emp and all the loyalist will be dead. And ... well... Every traitor legion to. Execpt perty
Cadia would've fallen much much earlier
“NO! we’re not going to throw the will of eternity at cadia, just strap massive guns to it and we have a valuable resource you fuck wits! just destroy the planetary defenses first, retreat and then nuke it to oblivion!”
That would go badly so fast. I don't think hew would have been a traitor, but several other primarchs I see defecting because of his orders or him declaring them traitors for disobeying him.
I'm for the improved raw audio, radio has me hearing every freaking S sound like the spits actively spraying in my face
From a lot of the short stories and codex campaigns I've read, the Iron Warriors really seem to be among the most logical and tactical forces used by Chaos. Most "warp smiths" (outside of the Dark Mechanicus) that actually make and maintain Chaos's ships, vehicles, and weapons are Iron Warriors. The Iron Warriors have a logical and methodical approach to combat, rather than charging in like berserk retards like the World Eaters, or relying on warp magic to do most of the heavy lifting like the Death Guard or Thousand Sons. One of my favorite stories is about an Iron Warriors dreadnought who becomes a ruler of a planet, and invites several other Chaos warband generals (who were from newer generations of traitors) to his palace to tell him an epic story of their combat deeds in exchange for some Eldar soulstones and other loot. None of the generals can impress the Iron Warrior dreadnought guy, and he basically calls them a bunch of worthless whippersnappers; and him and his minions kill all of the visitors except a Thousand Sons guy who steals the loot and escapes using some Tzeentch hax.
I'm surprised Major didn't make a joke about Perty being "hard as iron"
I was surprised he didn't make the joke of:
Horus: "Hey Perty, wanna party?"
when he was talking about how Horus invited him to join the heresy.
The second mic by far I like your voice but I don't like hear so close to my hear
Same, it’s like talking from 5 feet away vs right in my ear
“Posted 3 minutes ago” earliest I’ve been
Erm...4th legion. Not 15th
Last time I was this early Squats were still a thing...
Squats are coming back in the new lore 👌
@@chosenofkhorne2951 That's good.
So a few decades ago
That's why the modern iron warriors look the most "normal" among the rest of the traitor legions.
I love the fact how Maiorkill edited a picture of God Emperor and Henry cavill especially how recently Cavill asked publicly that if GW does a 40k movie he wants to be a primarch
The second voice is the best. It seems more natural. The third although louder seems a bit off somehow.
Imagine if they didn't fall. How cool they could've been.
2:18: actually, Henry Cavill would be an excellent Emperor.
It is exactlly my reaction, it seems so natural xD
This guy has the face of Karl Franz
He's apparently into Warhammer 40K too
@@NekoSoren He. Vin Diesel. Joe Mangianello. A perfect Warhammer movie. Must be done.
Woah, Henry Cavill as the God emperor looks really fitting.
I really like the image here on 3:34 because of how it's also present on rogal dorn's video. In a way really showing how the two bob the builders really are just two sides of the same coin, like whilst the warp died around dorn. The eye of terror was always present for perty and also how dorn had to learn all the things he needed as a builder from his grandfather, while perty pretty much knew everything from the get go I wonder who drew this and that
Interestingly, Big E intended on creating 50 Primarchs and 50 Legions. Captain General Valdor and Amar Astarte only managed to save 20 of the vials before Astarte’s lab burned.
U serious?
Just imagine all the different ways the emperor could have fucked up as a parent, if he had 30 sons more! Incredible potential.
I'd say, Peter Turbo for warmaster!
Has anyone ever thought that the 2 lost primarchs were erased because they didn’t choose to join the emperor like all the others?
On the note of Honsou, part of his army escaped. Quite possibly his Batttle Barge. Shon'tu was also an interesting Iron Warrior.
I like to imagine clavil seeing that picture of him as the emperor and him having a chuckle
Personally i think perty is the most powerful, intelligent and highest potential if he could just get past his personality
Honestly Perturabo and the Iron Warriors are some of my favorites amongst the traitors 😅
The Iron Warriors are easily my favorite. IRON WITHIN! IRON WITHOUT!
Not only could he see the eye of terror but he could feel the exact location and even use it as a 3D compass to fly blindly through a storm
imagine if Perturabo after ascending to pseudo-demon, he actually just became a warp entity and started adopting the Tau as a race.
14:03 that dude on the bottom left just dished out some imperial fisting
The 2nd audio setting sounds the best to me.
That cavill emperor is even more fitting when you consider that he has a bunch of custodes miniatures irl
“The galaxy’s nastiest prank.” Very good description of Istvaan
I'm glad you're doing well. First video from you I ever saw was the one about Vermintide lore, like 6 months ago. I see you channel has grown since then. Good luck
I wonder what would happen if Perturabo was given a much more scientific and innovative role would he still turn out the way he did
I feel like him basically unfucking the situation on Mars probably would allow for Perturabo to mellow out considerably.
"some of his sons were stubborn"
understatement
Thanks for covering my favorite Traitor Legion. Perturabo is the one demon primarch that should be the Warmaster of Chaos, instead of that failure Abaddon. Perturabo is perfect for the role! Hates the Imperium, hates the Emperor, doesn't care about loses or any lives of anyone, actually plays-to-win and not cause damage or some ridiculous excuses for a war goals that Abaddon has 12 times out of 13.
The radio preset sounds better, Majorkill. Looking forward to more lore videos. All the best to you :)
As if Majorkill predicted Henry Cavill joining the 40K Universe
How to sum up the iron warriors
*they dig holes*
If you think Perturabo is bad, imagine Perturabo UwU'ing.
Please no
CEASE. YOUR. HERESY.
UwU **notices your fortress** **snuggles up to you and sieges it** OwO is this for me?
@@bigpigeon2384 BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM!!!
"BROTHER! GET THE FLAMER! THE *HEAVY* FLAMER!"
Hahahahahaha, that's funny unlike the Greatest of them All Lord Guillotine, Perturabo shall be forever a virgin. Macha has a better chance of getting laid. Not even the Great Undivided Beast could get Perturabo laid.
most underrated primarch in my oppinion...
The radio voice is the best I think, looking forward to the next video and great work on this one!
Puerturabo is my favorite builder bro and my fourth favorite primarch with that said, I feel bad for him and I believe he's the one chaos primarch that can redeem himself and join the imperium once again.
**Snickers** Perturabo digs holes xD
a creator made to destroy....this is the curse of a loyal son who lost his way
seriously manperor needs a damn parenting council
What is that stuff on perty’s head? Looks like the butchers nails but I don’t think that’s what it is
The latest HH book, 'Mortis,' has a nice finish for Perty's Heresy arc. He can be whiny, but in a good way to read.
I am personally a fan of the Subtle improved RAW Audio.