Just a tip for people considering PMMA tubing: If you try cutting the tube using roller tube cutter, 95% of your cuts will create fractures down the tube. I used multiple tube cutter and tightening really slow. They ALL cracked down the tube. They do look soo much better than PETG but would recommend using a hand saw or bench saw to cut.
Trying this for the first time using PMMA corsair 10/14mm frosted tubing at the moment after watching Jay's previous videos. My tip as a newbie, is to leave the noodle in until it is completely cooled and set so you can check the angle BEFORE removing it, if it's not quite right, you can reheat it and adjust it. Once you remove the noodle, if you try to reheat it, the tube will collapse, also you just cannot get the noodle in again once you have bent it!
@@KanaalMTS Not original OP but I have used Corsairs frosted tubing. I did not see the water flow with either colored or clear fluid. Only bubbles I saw were at the beginning like the first 1 or 2 hours after filling up the loop. But I cant see the water flow on clear tubings either. Rarely I see a few tiny bubbles rushing through. But thats it.
@@KanaalMTS Now I have finished it, I love it. The RGB lighting reflects nicely off of it, and yes you can see the water going through when you are priming it.
To those with no experience, Jay left out the warning against PETG. PETG also has a lower heat tolerance in loops. There are horror stories of loops that run up to about 40C on coolant that starts to warp the PETG tube at the fittings, causing leaks. It's always better to use PMMA/Acrylic even if it's your first loop. Buy EXTRA tubes to practice on before you send the build.
Is it wrong that I was expecting Scientist Jay with the white lab coat? I tend to have a 4-6 year computer upgrade cycle, so after this video, I'm getting closer to doing custom loop water cooling. Thank you for all you do!
Custom water cooling is so much fun, and very rewarding. Not just the look, but the performance. Just be forewarned, it's addictive, and expensive. Been doing it for years now. All of my systems are watercooled. Also, you can go straight soft tube or hard tube, or a combo of both. I go hard tube to a point, then soft tube where it connects to the GPU and CPU. This makes maintenance a lot easier. And there will be a lot more of that. All I can say is, take your time, and make sure you buy more than you think you will need, because you will make mistakes along the way. And that's OK, because that's how we learn. Have a great day! o7
Back in the day i almost upgraded every year, so new hardware + case mod, but i am back to a cadence much like you. And ! it is about that time of the century again 🙂
did a first time custom loop with Jay's vids. Great process. Thank you! I picked PMMA after his recommendation, and bought an extra 2-3 3' lengths so I could have some to play with. I practiced on a scrap piece before I ever attempted to use one of my 90's. Took me 2-3 bends to figure out if I pulled it 2 inches away from the heat, and waited for an extra 20-30 seconds, and once I felt the limp noodle thing start to happen, give it about another 10 seconds, I had it without any cracking or bubbling. It was really fun to learn, and if you go into it knowing you're gonna screw some up and budget for some extra so you can practice, you'll find yourself using your practice bends before you know it. Thanks Jay!
This also helped me understand why 3D printing with PETG can be such a hassle with warping and peeling corners. That temperature change is pretty wild with how fast it is!
In the next “water cooling for dummies” series y’all do, can you go over the why/when to flush and clean components before loop filling? Or how to make your own mixture with correct biocide and corrosion inhibitors?
I actually did my first loop thanks to your other video and the one showing off the HydroX series. So this video shows off a lot I learned while working on the Corsair pmma. My new rig looks awesome and no leaks EVER. Thanks Jay!
Jay is the amin too for pc tips, he isn't the only PC content, but I never overlook a video, honesty and not just trying to sell you the newest parts are why I will never see this man as over rated. Just started wanting to water cool, watched his video on basics and boom this drops.
Looking forward to more of these. I watched this a day after upgrading from soft to hard tube, after watching your hard tube primer from about 8 years ago 😃
Honestly, Harbor Freight is a good way to go for cheap niche use case tools, or for tools that you don't want to be afraid to get all sorts of jacked up (or even modify to fit your current needs).
I needed a tighter radius than the jigs that I bought,so I used one of my wife's medicine pill bottle as a jig and a little patience to get what I needed, worked like a champ!
Myabe you can talk about some of the other tools you use. How to clean burs off the edges. Or the Primo Chill drill attachment. Or the air pumps to check for leaks. That was a game changer for me. As you stated once someone builds one, they will build more. All these tools are useful for a long time. Thanks for sharing.
In light of all the EKWB drama -- I would be interested in hearing/seeing your opinions and reviews on other water block manufacturers such as Byteski, Alphacool, etc. Looking at finally doing an open loop myself and now that EKWB is a mess I'm curious about other manufacturers and their quality.
@@ravenovatechnologies6554 Yeah I've seen the cheaper AIOs that were featured -- I'm interested in the GPU water blocks for open loops that aren't EKWB given the issues associated with them right now. Thanks :D
Jay I want to you think about you said about the flexible tubing and it leaking plasticizer into the water over time. That it will ALWAYS do that. Now think about that soft plastic disposable water bottles and realize they are doing the same thing.
this is exactly what i was needing to plan my future watercooled build which will be my first custom loop and i was desperately needing a video like this with tips and tricks thanks!
Love the video, would love to see your techniques on cutting and measuring some complex bends for the more advanced class. I saw a great video where they used reference points in the case to measure the length of the tube and between the bends and how to calculate it. I'm a little curious if you have any great methods for getting great looks on the more complex builds.
Topic Suggestion: Modding AIOs. I was really intrigued by the video a few years back where there was the one AIO that could be modded. I know these are meant to be contained, close loops, but I am sure there are some mods that could be done to them (flow meter, adding reservoir, etc.) Could be a fun Science with Jay episode.
Very interesting! I ended up working on my first solid tubing loop at the beginning of the year and learned lots following what you previously showed (...and shattered an acrylic tube in the process bc I was probably not patient enough at some point XD). I managed some double bends and was so proud of them, even though fitting them was a pain, but boy did it take time (barely dialed the heat gun up so the warmup took ages) : now I know :D Thanks for this video! :D
So for me the biggest thing holding me back from doing a custom water loop is finding out what angle you need to get the tube to line up perfectly. If you could somehow come up with a good in depth video on how you go about finding the angle you need to make a specific run in your loop, It would honestly benefit me so much. This video was absolutely perfect in the amount of content and advice and demonstration there was. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make it!
I don't get the impression that you calculate the perfect angle. Jay had said before that you make your bend on an oversized piece and then trim either/both ends to fit, so I feel it's more have a general plan and adjust as needed more than making perfectly measured/angled pieces upfront.
Your channel convinced me that i should go custom water cooling, at it was the best thing i did especially for my GPU. its so quiet while i game. maybe i suggest to make a video how to clean the tubes before assembling them. i used frosted tubes and the some of the dirt got stuck in the fins so i have to remove and clean them all.
8:42 The thermal transfer from air is mostly surface based, so larger diameter heats up faster. You assumption would work if it the outside diameter stayed the same and inside got smaller.
I bought a harbor freight heat gun back when you were still making AMD FX videos for my first water cooling build. Damn things still works, pretty sure that's 1500x the average lifespan of a Harbor Freight tool
Hoping to do my first custom watercooling build with the pc case that Jay is designing. So all these videos are very helpful for a beginner like me. Looking forward to the next video :D
I know there has been a push in the community for hyper accuracy in all things. I have to say I absolutely love your crossover of getting close to control but still just practical this is how it works in the real world. Keep showing practical demonstrations for all its worth.
When I started watercooling I used those kinds of tubes. But I learn really fast that wasn't for me. since then I used actual glass tubing, copper tubing, and my most recent build carbon fiber tubing and so far the carbon fiber tubing is the best in my opinion. Now you can't bend it but you can buy it bent and 90, 45 and 60 degree angles or straight as well
When I did this for the first time, I bought 2x the tube I thought I was going to need. It sounds like a waste but it was the first time I had tried bending tube. I took my time trying the bends I needed and if I screwed up, I knew I had plenty of extra.
Hey will start my first hardline PC later this week; Found a few videos how to bend them etc, simmilar to this one, but I found it hard to find a video that shows me how to messure right? Like how do I get the perfect length on a tube, where do I need to bend, how do I do multiple bends etc. Would be nice if you could make a video about that - think some more people would appreciate :)
Now perhaps, make a jank rig using polyurethane tubing to see if it has the same issues PVC has. One experiment we had with Plexi tubing is engraving, makes the thing look something else on an illuminated loop with colored coolant! Be sure to use the thicker stuff and never dig too fast, too hard nor too deep...
Soft tube is so dang convenient and easy to use. We don't do things because they are easy though. Hard line tube looks real good, but what a pain in the ass. Time to do a hard line system I guess, lmfao. Plastic... 3D printed resin sealed hardline... or metal... Saw a dude do copper pipe with way too many joints and elbows... so much brazing... looked so good after the polish.
In my experience PETG is the easiest to handle, it also doesn't scratch as acrylic. But acrylic is more bright and looks like glass, PETG is a little bit less bright. But acrylic needs more attention to handle. So both have pro's and con's.
Hey Jay - This is good stuff! Could you also explain inside diameter and flow rates and how (if) that changes things. Old build from 2014 with 3/4" tubing seemed to cool best at slow pump speeds.
Surprised he still doesn't made a 3d print or adjustable block with elements for bending tubes a different angles. Like a simple plate with blocks you can click in to guide the tubes etc for bending :)
Video idea - Watercooling on a budget maybe? I’ve seen many brands on AliExpress and Amazon and it would be actually pretty helpful to see where money can be saved and where it shouldn’t be. I saw You using some Barrow fittings and they look pretty nice, ngl. But is a waterblock from china any good? What about Chinese pumps? Should I start with a simple soft tube loop and expand/change later or maybe go rigid dual loop crazy sh*t from the beginning? Side to side cost to performance comparison, like You did with the PC build? Have a great day guys! Thanks for all the help throughout the years!
Some people have been having PETG fail after being in service for a while due to coolant temps in their loops. I've seen several posts on reddit about it.
An industrial build would look cool. Brass/copper/black/Safety yellow and orange/ fire red. Probably not all the colors but a mix of a few. Copper tubing is always my favorite on a lathe. Stainless is nice but it doesn't look as good in my opinion. Then instead of the typical connectors, bsp to crimp Copper would really look nice. Unless you feel like brazing the lines
Great stuff for me (especially when I'm planning my first custom loop). An interesting topic to discuss, in my opinion (IMO), is the optimal number of radiators in a loop with a bottom intake connected in series to two top and side exhaust fans. I have a hunch that using three radiators (including the bottom intake) might be more effective than just two (top and side) based on the laws of physics (assuming the ambient temperature is significantly lower than the coolant temperature). Could you please verify this in your system?
Liam Le has a brand new AIO that exits the hoses on the side, in the middle, rather than on the end. That way, you don't run the hoses over your ARGB Ram. Some people are smart enough to run their hoses at the rear of the case, but are few and far between.
You can practice bending tubing by using PVC and a stove. They do this for aquarium projects. It's cheaper and you can get comfortable without concern for wasting the nice stuff.
Like all art, it's probably best to get your heat gun, buy a length of tube that's spare, and just experiment. Personally, I might still use soft tubing just cause it's so much easier, and it's still possible to make it look awesome.
Only use PETG if you find it fun to remake all your tubes within the first year. PETG slowly deforms under pressure, so all your fittings will eventually leak. Ask my GPU how I know?
remember, thermal dynamics. Thicker material insulates heat within itself better than in a thinner material. ie; more heat temp absorption equal faster spike of higher temp. Reasonably accurate to a point (recognizing max temp threshold, / type of material), until the material gets so thick it takes longer to get the heat to max threshold, not the case with .5mm difference in a plastic tube. Clear as mud?
Jay, I didn't know what kind of tube you think I was thinking of. First thing going through my head was "it's totally tubular, dude!" :D Looks like Acrylic needs about 4-5x as much time as PETG to get it to the point where you're ready to bend it. That means if you figure 10 minutes to do bends for your loops with PETG, you'll need closer to 45 minutes to get to the same point with Acrylic. Anecdotal data... so... anecdatal? One of these days I'll try a bit of custom watercooling. I only just got my first AIO last year (I've been on air since I put together my first PC back in the 486 days - my first two builds were an AMD K6-2/350 and a Pentium 75). And I'm currently waiting to pick up a CPU to upgrade my current build to a 7th-to-9th gen Ryzen.
The easiest way is to use 90 degree fittings so you only have to do one bend in a tube. Then you just make the tube oversized for what you want and can trim each end of the tube back so it will fit.
For straight sections, you can just swap the plastic for glass. And if one's willing to pay the price (and of course, if such facilities are available locally) they can even get glass tube bent by just about any glass artisan or technician. The only major issue with these things is dropping a shoe through the thing, but then again, that would cause issues with anything transporting liquids. Plastics or glass. Therefore, if there's a choice, it's probably best to just use the glass. Lasts indefinitely where plastics do not, easier to clean as well, doesn't fog up and so on. Glass is superior.
I'd love to do a full water cooled build. However, it's not doing the build. It's the maintenance I'm worried about. I like the thought of building a pc and forgetting about it, but with water cooling, you have yearly maintenance, I think? Thanks jay!
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Jay using the Metric measurements system is proper. Keep the videos coming Jay.
Just a tip for people considering PMMA tubing: If you try cutting the tube using roller tube cutter, 95% of your cuts will create fractures down the tube. I used multiple tube cutter and tightening really slow. They ALL cracked down the tube. They do look soo much better than PETG but would recommend using a hand saw or bench saw to cut.
Trying this for the first time using PMMA corsair 10/14mm frosted tubing at the moment after watching Jay's previous videos. My tip as a newbie, is to leave the noodle in until it is completely cooled and set so you can check the angle BEFORE removing it, if it's not quite right, you can reheat it and adjust it. Once you remove the noodle, if you try to reheat it, the tube will collapse, also you just cannot get the noodle in again once you have bent it!
Do you like the frosted tubing? Can you see bubbles / water flow through it? I'm debating about getting clear or frosted tubing for my next build.
@@KanaalMTS Not original OP but I have used Corsairs frosted tubing. I did not see the water flow with either colored or clear fluid. Only bubbles I saw were at the beginning like the first 1 or 2 hours after filling up the loop. But I cant see the water flow on clear tubings either. Rarely I see a few tiny bubbles rushing through. But thats it.
I was thinking about that corsair PMMA vid he made while watching this! Thank you for the tip, i have a build coming soon!
@@PlebLordThe3rd Thank you so much
@@KanaalMTS Now I have finished it, I love it. The RGB lighting reflects nicely off of it, and yes you can see the water going through when you are priming it.
To those with no experience, Jay left out the warning against PETG. PETG also has a lower heat tolerance in loops. There are horror stories of loops that run up to about 40C on coolant that starts to warp the PETG tube at the fittings, causing leaks. It's always better to use PMMA/Acrylic even if it's your first loop. Buy EXTRA tubes to practice on before you send the build.
Im not sure if anyone else does them, but EK had/has? petg inserts to stop this from happening
@@vkiwi2429 I have used EK PETG inserts and still have had warping. Since then, I've abandoned using PETG and only use Acrylic for my custom loops.
I'm not planning to bend any tubing soon, but I love educational videos like this. 👍
Is it wrong that I was expecting Scientist Jay with the white lab coat?
I tend to have a 4-6 year computer upgrade cycle, so after this video, I'm getting closer to doing custom loop water cooling.
Thank you for all you do!
Custom water cooling is so much fun, and very rewarding. Not just the look, but the performance. Just be forewarned, it's addictive, and expensive. Been doing it for years now. All of my systems are watercooled. Also, you can go straight soft tube or hard tube, or a combo of both. I go hard tube to a point, then soft tube where it connects to the GPU and CPU. This makes maintenance a lot easier. And there will be a lot more of that. All I can say is, take your time, and make sure you buy more than you think you will need, because you will make mistakes along the way. And that's OK, because that's how we learn.
Have a great day! o7
Seriously, we need Scientist Jay. Slicked hair, pocket protector, pens and ruller in the pocket. Crisp white jacket. Chef's kiss.
Back in the day i almost upgraded every year, so new hardware + case mod, but i am back to a cadence much like you.
And ! it is about that time of the century again 🙂
Once you do it you realize the hardest part is just buying the stuff that is compatible
@@cmdrclassifiedsince the gtx 1080s for gpus water cooling hasn’t been as fun for performance as it was. I do it more for looks and silence now.
Dude, this video can be defined in 1 word. "Dedication" thanks man
Thank you Jay, i am doing my first watercooling build and your videos have been very helpful
did a first time custom loop with Jay's vids. Great process. Thank you! I picked PMMA after his recommendation, and bought an extra 2-3 3' lengths so I could have some to play with. I practiced on a scrap piece before I ever attempted to use one of my 90's. Took me 2-3 bends to figure out if I pulled it 2 inches away from the heat, and waited for an extra 20-30 seconds, and once I felt the limp noodle thing start to happen, give it about another 10 seconds, I had it without any cracking or bubbling. It was really fun to learn, and if you go into it knowing you're gonna screw some up and budget for some extra so you can practice, you'll find yourself using your practice bends before you know it. Thanks Jay!
Yes Jay...thank you for touching on our tubing....types
This also helped me understand why 3D printing with PETG can be such a hassle with warping and peeling corners. That temperature change is pretty wild with how fast it is!
For a second i misread *DON'T LET YOUR LUBE GO LIMP!*
That would be a weird video.
In the next “water cooling for dummies” series y’all do, can you go over the why/when to flush and clean components before loop filling? Or how to make your own mixture with correct biocide and corrosion inhibitors?
I actually did my first loop thanks to your other video and the one showing off the HydroX series. So this video shows off a lot I learned while working on the Corsair pmma. My new rig looks awesome and no leaks EVER. Thanks Jay!
Jay is the amin too for pc tips, he isn't the only PC content, but I never overlook a video, honesty and not just trying to sell you the newest parts are why I will never see this man as over rated. Just started wanting to water cool, watched his video on basics and boom this drops.
Jay setting us straight on bending tubes. For science.
Love the use of vernier's to get an exactly approximate distance measurement.
Looking forward to more of these. I watched this a day after upgrading from soft to hard tube, after watching your hard tube primer from about 8 years ago 😃
great title
Too bad it's changed already because RUclips creators don't have freedom of speech
I got a Harbor Freight special for like $9 on sale (probably $15 now) and it has worked great. Heat guns are simple, hot thing + blower fan.
Honestly, Harbor Freight is a good way to go for cheap niche use case tools, or for tools that you don't want to be afraid to get all sorts of jacked up (or even modify to fit your current needs).
Glad you went over this demo again, really gonna help me on my first acrylic build soon, 😊
id love to see more build stuff like this, tube stuff is the most intimidating part of custom builds for me
I needed a tighter radius than the jigs that I bought,so I used one of my wife's medicine pill bottle as a jig and a little patience to get what I needed, worked like a champ!
Myabe you can talk about some of the other tools you use. How to clean burs off the edges. Or the Primo Chill drill attachment. Or the air pumps to check for leaks. That was a game changer for me. As you stated once someone builds one, they will build more. All these tools are useful for a long time. Thanks for sharing.
In light of all the EKWB drama -- I would be interested in hearing/seeing your opinions and reviews on other water block manufacturers such as Byteski, Alphacool, etc. Looking at finally doing an open loop myself and now that EKWB is a mess I'm curious about other manufacturers and their quality.
Check some of his recent watercooling videos, he talks about a much cheaper fitting company that seem to work very well!
@@ravenovatechnologies6554 Yeah I've seen the cheaper AIOs that were featured -- I'm interested in the GPU water blocks for open loops that aren't EKWB given the issues associated with them right now. Thanks :D
@warderkeeju I totally understand, gpu blocks seem to be the hard part.
Thanks to you Jay, I have built my first open loop PC. It looks great partially because of the good knowledge you are passing on! Cheers.
Jay I want to you think about you said about the flexible tubing and it leaking plasticizer into the water over time. That it will ALWAYS do that. Now think about that soft plastic disposable water bottles and realize they are doing the same thing.
Yeah ive given up drinking anything from plastic if i can help it. Glass is de wey and also very available and cheap.
Project farm tested heat guns, and the HeatOne from Amazon was one of the cheapest AND best performing.
Also, thanks, Jay! Love you!
this is exactly what i was needing to plan my future watercooled build which will be my first custom loop and i was desperately needing a video like this with tips and tricks thanks!
Very good tips! I’m about to give this a go for my 14900ks. Some info on pressure testing the loop would be great. Keep the vids coming!
Love the video, would love to see your techniques on cutting and measuring some complex bends for the more advanced class. I saw a great video where they used reference points in the case to measure the length of the tube and between the bends and how to calculate it. I'm a little curious if you have any great methods for getting great looks on the more complex builds.
I'm 40 this year, defiantly having to take closer care of my tubes!
Topic Suggestion: Modding AIOs. I was really intrigued by the video a few years back where there was the one AIO that could be modded. I know these are meant to be contained, close loops, but I am sure there are some mods that could be done to them (flow meter, adding reservoir, etc.) Could be a fun Science with Jay episode.
Very interesting!
I ended up working on my first solid tubing loop at the beginning of the year and learned lots following what you previously showed (...and shattered an acrylic tube in the process bc I was probably not patient enough at some point XD).
I managed some double bends and was so proud of them, even though fitting them was a pain, but boy did it take time (barely dialed the heat gun up so the warmup took ages) : now I know :D
Thanks for this video! :D
this was very informative thinking about watercooling in the future and will definitely watch his video again when the time comes
this series will be good as im just started looking at doing watercooling for a up coming intel 13th gen system
So for me the biggest thing holding me back from doing a custom water loop is finding out what angle you need to get the tube to line up perfectly. If you could somehow come up with a good in depth video on how you go about finding the angle you need to make a specific run in your loop, It would honestly benefit me so much. This video was absolutely perfect in the amount of content and advice and demonstration there was. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make it!
I mean there is ways to calculate it. Measure both ways than use the formula. But eye balling worked for me
I don't get the impression that you calculate the perfect angle. Jay had said before that you make your bend on an oversized piece and then trim either/both ends to fit, so I feel it's more have a general plan and adjust as needed more than making perfectly measured/angled pieces upfront.
@@Juansonos you can calculate it. Just like welders do. It’s alittle much for water cooling and a jig I think is far faster and gets you there.
Thanks Jay for the heat gun settings and timing etc, this is what I was wondering about. Brilliant!
Your channel convinced me that i should go custom water cooling, at it was the best thing i did especially for my GPU. its so quiet while i game. maybe i suggest to make a video how to clean the tubes before assembling them. i used frosted tubes and the some of the dirt got stuck in the fins so i have to remove and clean them all.
Im loving the new editing style your using
8:42 The thermal transfer from air is mostly surface based, so larger diameter heats up faster. You assumption would work if it the outside diameter stayed the same and inside got smaller.
I bought a harbor freight heat gun back when you were still making AMD FX videos for my first water cooling build. Damn things still works, pretty sure that's 1500x the average lifespan of a Harbor Freight tool
Cool video, guys. I learn something every time I watch your videos.
The double entendre is strong in this one 🤣
Hoping to do my first custom watercooling build with the pc case that Jay is designing.
So all these videos are very helpful for a beginner like me.
Looking forward to the next video :D
I know there has been a push in the community for hyper accuracy in all things. I have to say I absolutely love your crossover of getting close to control but still just practical this is how it works in the real world. Keep showing practical demonstrations for all its worth.
That was so interesting. I just bought some PMMA tubes that I'm going to have fun with for my AMD, Fractal Design North build 👍🙂
When I started watercooling I used those kinds of tubes. But I learn really fast that wasn't for me. since then I used actual glass tubing, copper tubing, and my most recent build carbon fiber tubing and so far the carbon fiber tubing is the best in my opinion. Now you can't bend it but you can buy it bent and 90, 45 and 60 degree angles or straight as well
Thanks Jay! Awesome video. Looking forward to seeing more "water cooling for dummies" videos!!!!!
A nice straight cutting tool for the pipes might be a good thing to have too så you can create clean edges, maybe a deburring tool as well.
Jay can we get a video about compound bending please ... I always have trouble with tubes with 2 bends in it ...
When I did this for the first time, I bought 2x the tube I thought I was going to need. It sounds like a waste but it was the first time I had tried bending tube. I took my time trying the bends I needed and if I screwed up, I knew I had plenty of extra.
Hey will start my first hardline PC later this week; Found a few videos how to bend them etc, simmilar to this one, but I found it hard to find a video that shows me how to messure right? Like how do I get the perfect length on a tube, where do I need to bend, how do I do multiple bends etc. Would be nice if you could make a video about that - think some more people would appreciate :)
Absolutely riveting content.
It'd be nice to get your take on the heat dissipation rate of various rads of various sizes. And also maybe some sience on "more rad more better" ☺️
You sir are a first class bender.
Now perhaps, make a jank rig using polyurethane tubing to see if it has the same issues PVC has. One experiment we had with Plexi tubing is engraving, makes the thing look something else on an illuminated loop with colored coolant! Be sure to use the thicker stuff and never dig too fast, too hard nor too deep...
Perhaps a video on the more exotic tubing options ie: brass,copper, carbon fiber, possibly glass
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Jay! I would like to see a match-up with two identical/similar pc's, one with highend aircooling and the another with custom loop.
Soft tube is so dang convenient and easy to use. We don't do things because they are easy though.
Hard line tube looks real good, but what a pain in the ass. Time to do a hard line system I guess, lmfao.
Plastic... 3D printed resin sealed hardline... or metal...
Saw a dude do copper pipe with way too many joints and elbows... so much brazing... looked so good after the polish.
My immature ass reading the first two paragraphs 😂 (Sorry bro I know you’re trying to make a sincere comment but I can’t help it)
@@inff3rno nah, you nailed the right maturity level to be reading my comments at 🤣
I write for hyenas, and the bevis and butthead crowd. 🫨
In my experience PETG is the easiest to handle, it also doesn't scratch as acrylic. But acrylic is more bright and looks like glass, PETG is a little bit less bright. But acrylic needs more attention to handle. So both have pro's and con's.
This was very helpful thank you. Are conventional pipe benders useful at all or is it all done by hand?
Note to self, tube gets goopy before it starts to blister
My tube will never be limp again, thank you Jay.
Thanks for this, will show some friends that were freaking out
now jay has giant straws, so he doesn't have look away from his screen while gaming
Hey Jay - This is good stuff! Could you also explain inside diameter and flow rates and how (if) that changes things. Old build from 2014 with 3/4" tubing seemed to cool best at slow pump speeds.
Copper tubing ❤️
I might never water cool but I am learning. In turn becoming more comfortable with the idea.
I'm not water cooling my system, but watched the whole video to help out the channel. ;-)
Surprised he still doesn't made a 3d print or adjustable block with elements for bending tubes a different angles. Like a simple plate with blocks you can click in to guide the tubes etc for bending :)
Video idea - Watercooling on a budget maybe? I’ve seen many brands on AliExpress and Amazon and it would be actually pretty helpful to see where money can be saved and where it shouldn’t be. I saw You using some Barrow fittings and they look pretty nice, ngl. But is a waterblock from china any good? What about Chinese pumps? Should I start with a simple soft tube loop and expand/change later or maybe go rigid dual loop crazy sh*t from the beginning? Side to side cost to performance comparison, like You did with the PC build?
Have a great day guys! Thanks for all the help throughout the years!
Could you possibly do a video on were to buy the hardware from. Like your opinion/ best place to buy fittings and the hardware
Some people have been having PETG fail after being in service for a while due to coolant temps in their loops. I've seen several posts on reddit about it.
Ahhh good old jay. That is how i learnd to bend. So here is a late Thank you!
An industrial build would look cool. Brass/copper/black/Safety yellow and orange/ fire red. Probably not all the colors but a mix of a few. Copper tubing is always my favorite on a lathe. Stainless is nice but it doesn't look as good in my opinion. Then instead of the typical connectors, bsp to crimp Copper would really look nice. Unless you feel like brazing the lines
A neon sign artist can do wonders with glass bending.
Great stuff for me (especially when I'm planning my first custom loop). An interesting topic to discuss, in my opinion (IMO), is the optimal number of radiators in a loop with a bottom intake connected in series to two top and side exhaust fans. I have a hunch that using three radiators (including the bottom intake) might be more effective than just two (top and side) based on the laws of physics (assuming the ambient temperature is significantly lower than the coolant temperature). Could you please verify this in your system?
Liam Le has a brand new AIO that exits the hoses on the side, in the middle, rather than on the end. That way, you don't run the hoses over your ARGB Ram. Some people are smart enough to run their hoses at the rear of the case, but are few and far between.
Don't let your tube go limp hahaha the best YT title ever! 😂
Jay knows how to handle a bigger blacker tube.
Should do a video on the different types of water cooling liquids and their pros and cons
A limp tube is always a problem!
You can practice bending tubing by using PVC and a stove. They do this for aquarium projects. It's cheaper and you can get comfortable without concern for wasting the nice stuff.
Lmfao, thought it was a CRT video
I would like to see you address fitting,block and pump costs. The best for budget and the best for expensive..
The thicker wall pmma bend faster is because the insert is heated up by the previous bend. It also take time to heat up the inner insert.
Thanks so much for making these vids
Thanks! I learned things today :)
Like all art, it's probably best to get your heat gun, buy a length of tube that's spare, and just experiment. Personally, I might still use soft tubing just cause it's so much easier, and it's still possible to make it look awesome.
Only use PETG if you find it fun to remake all your tubes within the first year. PETG slowly deforms under pressure, so all your fittings will eventually leak. Ask my GPU how I know?
welcome to fish tank building 101 Jay will be your instructor for this course...
Jay's tube :3
remember, thermal dynamics.
Thicker material insulates heat within itself better than in a thinner material.
ie; more heat temp absorption equal faster spike of higher temp.
Reasonably accurate to a point (recognizing max temp threshold, / type of material),
until the material gets so thick it takes longer to get the heat to max threshold,
not the case with .5mm difference in a plastic tube.
Clear as mud?
Jay, I didn't know what kind of tube you think I was thinking of. First thing going through my head was "it's totally tubular, dude!" :D
Looks like Acrylic needs about 4-5x as much time as PETG to get it to the point where you're ready to bend it. That means if you figure 10 minutes to do bends for your loops with PETG, you'll need closer to 45 minutes to get to the same point with Acrylic.
Anecdotal data... so... anecdatal?
One of these days I'll try a bit of custom watercooling. I only just got my first AIO last year (I've been on air since I put together my first PC back in the 486 days - my first two builds were an AMD K6-2/350 and a Pentium 75). And I'm currently waiting to pick up a CPU to upgrade my current build to a 7th-to-9th gen Ryzen.
What noone shows is how to measure your runs from point to point and where to start the bend to get it to mate point a to b
Exactly. I would love to see that video. I can bend tubing all day.
The easiest way is to use 90 degree fittings so you only have to do one bend in a tube. Then you just make the tube oversized for what you want and can trim each end of the tube back so it will fit.
For straight sections, you can just swap the plastic for glass. And if one's willing to pay the price (and of course, if such facilities are available locally) they can even get glass tube bent by just about any glass artisan or technician. The only major issue with these things is dropping a shoe through the thing, but then again, that would cause issues with anything transporting liquids. Plastics or glass. Therefore, if there's a choice, it's probably best to just use the glass. Lasts indefinitely where plastics do not, easier to clean as well, doesn't fog up and so on. Glass is superior.
A neon sign artist can do wonders with glass bending.
I'd love to do a full water cooled build. However, it's not doing the build. It's the maintenance I'm worried about. I like the thought of building a pc and forgetting about it, but with water cooling, you have yearly maintenance, I think?
Thanks jay!
Thanks Jay!