Just a tip for people considering PMMA tubing: If you try cutting the tube using roller tube cutter, 95% of your cuts will create fractures down the tube. I used multiple tube cutter and tightening really slow. They ALL cracked down the tube. They do look soo much better than PETG but would recommend using a hand saw or bench saw to cut.
Is it wrong that I was expecting Scientist Jay with the white lab coat? I tend to have a 4-6 year computer upgrade cycle, so after this video, I'm getting closer to doing custom loop water cooling. Thank you for all you do!
Custom water cooling is so much fun, and very rewarding. Not just the look, but the performance. Just be forewarned, it's addictive, and expensive. Been doing it for years now. All of my systems are watercooled. Also, you can go straight soft tube or hard tube, or a combo of both. I go hard tube to a point, then soft tube where it connects to the GPU and CPU. This makes maintenance a lot easier. And there will be a lot more of that. All I can say is, take your time, and make sure you buy more than you think you will need, because you will make mistakes along the way. And that's OK, because that's how we learn. Have a great day! o7
Back in the day i almost upgraded every year, so new hardware + case mod, but i am back to a cadence much like you. And ! it is about that time of the century again 🙂
Trying this for the first time using PMMA corsair 10/14mm frosted tubing at the moment after watching Jay's previous videos. My tip as a newbie, is to leave the noodle in until it is completely cooled and set so you can check the angle BEFORE removing it, if it's not quite right, you can reheat it and adjust it. Once you remove the noodle, if you try to reheat it, the tube will collapse, also you just cannot get the noodle in again once you have bent it!
@@KanaalMTS Not original OP but I have used Corsairs frosted tubing. I did not see the water flow with either colored or clear fluid. Only bubbles I saw were at the beginning like the first 1 or 2 hours after filling up the loop. But I cant see the water flow on clear tubings either. Rarely I see a few tiny bubbles rushing through. But thats it.
@@KanaalMTS Now I have finished it, I love it. The RGB lighting reflects nicely off of it, and yes you can see the water going through when you are priming it.
To those with no experience, Jay left out the warning against PETG. PETG also has a lower heat tolerance in loops. There are horror stories of loops that run up to about 40C on coolant that starts to warp the PETG tube at the fittings, causing leaks. It's always better to use PMMA/Acrylic even if it's your first loop. Buy EXTRA tubes to practice on before you send the build.
did a first time custom loop with Jay's vids. Great process. Thank you! I picked PMMA after his recommendation, and bought an extra 2-3 3' lengths so I could have some to play with. I practiced on a scrap piece before I ever attempted to use one of my 90's. Took me 2-3 bends to figure out if I pulled it 2 inches away from the heat, and waited for an extra 20-30 seconds, and once I felt the limp noodle thing start to happen, give it about another 10 seconds, I had it without any cracking or bubbling. It was really fun to learn, and if you go into it knowing you're gonna screw some up and budget for some extra so you can practice, you'll find yourself using your practice bends before you know it. Thanks Jay!
I actually did my first loop thanks to your other video and the one showing off the HydroX series. So this video shows off a lot I learned while working on the Corsair pmma. My new rig looks awesome and no leaks EVER. Thanks Jay!
Jay is the amin too for pc tips, he isn't the only PC content, but I never overlook a video, honesty and not just trying to sell you the newest parts are why I will never see this man as over rated. Just started wanting to water cool, watched his video on basics and boom this drops.
In light of all the EKWB drama -- I would be interested in hearing/seeing your opinions and reviews on other water block manufacturers such as Byteski, Alphacool, etc. Looking at finally doing an open loop myself and now that EKWB is a mess I'm curious about other manufacturers and their quality.
@@ravenovatechnologies6554 Yeah I've seen the cheaper AIOs that were featured -- I'm interested in the GPU water blocks for open loops that aren't EKWB given the issues associated with them right now. Thanks :D
Love the video, would love to see your techniques on cutting and measuring some complex bends for the more advanced class. I saw a great video where they used reference points in the case to measure the length of the tube and between the bends and how to calculate it. I'm a little curious if you have any great methods for getting great looks on the more complex builds.
Honestly, Harbor Freight is a good way to go for cheap niche use case tools, or for tools that you don't want to be afraid to get all sorts of jacked up (or even modify to fit your current needs).
Looking forward to more of these. I watched this a day after upgrading from soft to hard tube, after watching your hard tube primer from about 8 years ago 😃
This also helped me understand why 3D printing with PETG can be such a hassle with warping and peeling corners. That temperature change is pretty wild with how fast it is!
Myabe you can talk about some of the other tools you use. How to clean burs off the edges. Or the Primo Chill drill attachment. Or the air pumps to check for leaks. That was a game changer for me. As you stated once someone builds one, they will build more. All these tools are useful for a long time. Thanks for sharing.
this is exactly what i was needing to plan my future watercooled build which will be my first custom loop and i was desperately needing a video like this with tips and tricks thanks!
In the next “water cooling for dummies” series y’all do, can you go over the why/when to flush and clean components before loop filling? Or how to make your own mixture with correct biocide and corrosion inhibitors?
Your channel convinced me that i should go custom water cooling, at it was the best thing i did especially for my GPU. its so quiet while i game. maybe i suggest to make a video how to clean the tubes before assembling them. i used frosted tubes and the some of the dirt got stuck in the fins so i have to remove and clean them all.
Jay I want to you think about you said about the flexible tubing and it leaking plasticizer into the water over time. That it will ALWAYS do that. Now think about that soft plastic disposable water bottles and realize they are doing the same thing.
Very interesting! I ended up working on my first solid tubing loop at the beginning of the year and learned lots following what you previously showed (...and shattered an acrylic tube in the process bc I was probably not patient enough at some point XD). I managed some double bends and was so proud of them, even though fitting them was a pain, but boy did it take time (barely dialed the heat gun up so the warmup took ages) : now I know :D Thanks for this video! :D
I needed a tighter radius than the jigs that I bought,so I used one of my wife's medicine pill bottle as a jig and a little patience to get what I needed, worked like a champ!
Hoping to do my first custom watercooling build with the pc case that Jay is designing. So all these videos are very helpful for a beginner like me. Looking forward to the next video :D
Topic Suggestion: Modding AIOs. I was really intrigued by the video a few years back where there was the one AIO that could be modded. I know these are meant to be contained, close loops, but I am sure there are some mods that could be done to them (flow meter, adding reservoir, etc.) Could be a fun Science with Jay episode.
Hey will start my first hardline PC later this week; Found a few videos how to bend them etc, simmilar to this one, but I found it hard to find a video that shows me how to messure right? Like how do I get the perfect length on a tube, where do I need to bend, how do I do multiple bends etc. Would be nice if you could make a video about that - think some more people would appreciate :)
So for me the biggest thing holding me back from doing a custom water loop is finding out what angle you need to get the tube to line up perfectly. If you could somehow come up with a good in depth video on how you go about finding the angle you need to make a specific run in your loop, It would honestly benefit me so much. This video was absolutely perfect in the amount of content and advice and demonstration there was. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make it!
I don't get the impression that you calculate the perfect angle. Jay had said before that you make your bend on an oversized piece and then trim either/both ends to fit, so I feel it's more have a general plan and adjust as needed more than making perfectly measured/angled pieces upfront.
When I started watercooling I used those kinds of tubes. But I learn really fast that wasn't for me. since then I used actual glass tubing, copper tubing, and my most recent build carbon fiber tubing and so far the carbon fiber tubing is the best in my opinion. Now you can't bend it but you can buy it bent and 90, 45 and 60 degree angles or straight as well
8:42 The thermal transfer from air is mostly surface based, so larger diameter heats up faster. You assumption would work if it the outside diameter stayed the same and inside got smaller.
Hey Jay - This is good stuff! Could you also explain inside diameter and flow rates and how (if) that changes things. Old build from 2014 with 3/4" tubing seemed to cool best at slow pump speeds.
I bought a harbor freight heat gun back when you were still making AMD FX videos for my first water cooling build. Damn things still works, pretty sure that's 1500x the average lifespan of a Harbor Freight tool
Soft tube is so dang convenient and easy to use. We don't do things because they are easy though. Hard line tube looks real good, but what a pain in the ass. Time to do a hard line system I guess, lmfao. Plastic... 3D printed resin sealed hardline... or metal... Saw a dude do copper pipe with way too many joints and elbows... so much brazing... looked so good after the polish.
The easiest way is to use 90 degree fittings so you only have to do one bend in a tube. Then you just make the tube oversized for what you want and can trim each end of the tube back so it will fit.
When I did this for the first time, I bought 2x the tube I thought I was going to need. It sounds like a waste but it was the first time I had tried bending tube. I took my time trying the bends I needed and if I screwed up, I knew I had plenty of extra.
Mr. Watercooling I have a question that I think you are the most qualified to answer. I have a single 60mm*360 mounted on the side. I need to change it to a dual 27mm*360 mounting them one on the top and one on the side. My Question is would it be better (for thermals) to have my routing go from the pump to the first rad then to the cpu and then into the second rad back to tank? or from the pump to the first rad then to the second rad then to cpu and back to tank? Without testing I can see why both have benefits and downfalls. I only have the cpu in my custom loop (no gpu in loop) and will keep it this way. I just think that you will be the best to answer this. Just for info sake i have a I9 13900k.
Some people have been having PETG fail after being in service for a while due to coolant temps in their loops. I've seen several posts on reddit about it.
Only use PETG if you find it fun to remake all your tubes within the first year. PETG slowly deforms under pressure, so all your fittings will eventually leak. Ask my GPU how I know?
Hi, wonderful tutorial. Could you kindly make a tutorial on how to make complex tube bends? Because, I have struggled quite a bit to get the bends in the right place as it is hard to control. If it is just one bend then you just leave a bit excess on the ends and the trim to the lengths needed but for a complex/multi bend tube is a nightmare... Thank you
Now perhaps, make a jank rig using polyurethane tubing to see if it has the same issues PVC has. One experiment we had with Plexi tubing is engraving, makes the thing look something else on an illuminated loop with colored coolant! Be sure to use the thicker stuff and never dig too fast, too hard nor too deep...
I would like to see experimentations based on radiators and fan placements. Like I have a p500a, with a 420 mm in the front and a 240 mm on top. I would have the front and the top as intake, but I just recently switched my top to an exhaust, and I want to know if that even makes a measurable difference or not by exhausting already warm intake air from the front radiator, out the top radiator.
Surprised he still doesn't made a 3d print or adjustable block with elements for bending tubes a different angles. Like a simple plate with blocks you can click in to guide the tubes etc for bending :)
I know there has been a push in the community for hyper accuracy in all things. I have to say I absolutely love your crossover of getting close to control but still just practical this is how it works in the real world. Keep showing practical demonstrations for all its worth.
Great stuff for me (especially when I'm planning my first custom loop). An interesting topic to discuss, in my opinion (IMO), is the optimal number of radiators in a loop with a bottom intake connected in series to two top and side exhaust fans. I have a hunch that using three radiators (including the bottom intake) might be more effective than just two (top and side) based on the laws of physics (assuming the ambient temperature is significantly lower than the coolant temperature). Could you please verify this in your system?
Makes me want to get tube and supplies to do this to the computer i did a soft tube setup on.... sad thing is i really dont use that pc, though im currently thinking of reformatting it and making ity new daily since my current daily just crashed the other night and wont boot now.
Liam Le has a brand new AIO that exits the hoses on the side, in the middle, rather than on the end. That way, you don't run the hoses over your ARGB Ram. Some people are smart enough to run their hoses at the rear of the case, but are few and far between.
I have a serious question @JayzTwoCents in germany, we sometimes use big iron balls to optimize the diameter across the whole bent for the Gutter pipes. It looks better, and should improve the Water Flow. Did you also try the get a laminar Flow in your tubing right after the pump to reduce noise?
An industrial build would look cool. Brass/copper/black/Safety yellow and orange/ fire red. Probably not all the colors but a mix of a few. Copper tubing is always my favorite on a lathe. Stainless is nice but it doesn't look as good in my opinion. Then instead of the typical connectors, bsp to crimp Copper would really look nice. Unless you feel like brazing the lines
@JayzTwoCents I have old loop and soon it will be time to deep cleaning. You think vinegar would be good for the job? Few minutes to clean rads inside...
I have a Thermatake Level 20 XT case. When I build my next system this one will become my first water cooled build. this case supports a lot of Radiators. Other then the WOW factor of having multiple Radiators will I gain anything from more then 1.
In my experience PETG is the easiest to handle, it also doesn't scratch as acrylic. But acrylic is more bright and looks like glass, PETG is a little bit less bright. But acrylic needs more attention to handle. So both have pro's and con's.
Might be a super dumb question, but would you be able to 3d print some water cooling tubes? Maybe you can get some interesting runs. Just don't know how well it might hold up, or even if it woudl be water tight
Jay, I didn't know what kind of tube you think I was thinking of. First thing going through my head was "it's totally tubular, dude!" :D Looks like Acrylic needs about 4-5x as much time as PETG to get it to the point where you're ready to bend it. That means if you figure 10 minutes to do bends for your loops with PETG, you'll need closer to 45 minutes to get to the same point with Acrylic. Anecdotal data... so... anecdatal? One of these days I'll try a bit of custom watercooling. I only just got my first AIO last year (I've been on air since I put together my first PC back in the 486 days - my first two builds were an AMD K6-2/350 and a Pentium 75). And I'm currently waiting to pick up a CPU to upgrade my current build to a 7th-to-9th gen Ryzen.
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Jay using the Metric measurements system is proper. Keep the videos coming Jay.
Just a tip for people considering PMMA tubing: If you try cutting the tube using roller tube cutter, 95% of your cuts will create fractures down the tube. I used multiple tube cutter and tightening really slow. They ALL cracked down the tube. They do look soo much better than PETG but would recommend using a hand saw or bench saw to cut.
Is it wrong that I was expecting Scientist Jay with the white lab coat?
I tend to have a 4-6 year computer upgrade cycle, so after this video, I'm getting closer to doing custom loop water cooling.
Thank you for all you do!
Custom water cooling is so much fun, and very rewarding. Not just the look, but the performance. Just be forewarned, it's addictive, and expensive. Been doing it for years now. All of my systems are watercooled. Also, you can go straight soft tube or hard tube, or a combo of both. I go hard tube to a point, then soft tube where it connects to the GPU and CPU. This makes maintenance a lot easier. And there will be a lot more of that. All I can say is, take your time, and make sure you buy more than you think you will need, because you will make mistakes along the way. And that's OK, because that's how we learn.
Have a great day! o7
Seriously, we need Scientist Jay. Slicked hair, pocket protector, pens and ruller in the pocket. Crisp white jacket. Chef's kiss.
Back in the day i almost upgraded every year, so new hardware + case mod, but i am back to a cadence much like you.
And ! it is about that time of the century again 🙂
Once you do it you realize the hardest part is just buying the stuff that is compatible
@@CMDR_CLASSIFIEDsince the gtx 1080s for gpus water cooling hasn’t been as fun for performance as it was. I do it more for looks and silence now.
Trying this for the first time using PMMA corsair 10/14mm frosted tubing at the moment after watching Jay's previous videos. My tip as a newbie, is to leave the noodle in until it is completely cooled and set so you can check the angle BEFORE removing it, if it's not quite right, you can reheat it and adjust it. Once you remove the noodle, if you try to reheat it, the tube will collapse, also you just cannot get the noodle in again once you have bent it!
Do you like the frosted tubing? Can you see bubbles / water flow through it? I'm debating about getting clear or frosted tubing for my next build.
@@KanaalMTS Not original OP but I have used Corsairs frosted tubing. I did not see the water flow with either colored or clear fluid. Only bubbles I saw were at the beginning like the first 1 or 2 hours after filling up the loop. But I cant see the water flow on clear tubings either. Rarely I see a few tiny bubbles rushing through. But thats it.
I was thinking about that corsair PMMA vid he made while watching this! Thank you for the tip, i have a build coming soon!
@@piratenandy Thank you so much
@@KanaalMTS Now I have finished it, I love it. The RGB lighting reflects nicely off of it, and yes you can see the water going through when you are priming it.
To those with no experience, Jay left out the warning against PETG. PETG also has a lower heat tolerance in loops. There are horror stories of loops that run up to about 40C on coolant that starts to warp the PETG tube at the fittings, causing leaks. It's always better to use PMMA/Acrylic even if it's your first loop. Buy EXTRA tubes to practice on before you send the build.
Im not sure if anyone else does them, but EK had/has? petg inserts to stop this from happening
@@vkiwi2429 I have used EK PETG inserts and still have had warping. Since then, I've abandoned using PETG and only use Acrylic for my custom loops.
Dude, this video can be defined in 1 word. "Dedication" thanks man
did a first time custom loop with Jay's vids. Great process. Thank you! I picked PMMA after his recommendation, and bought an extra 2-3 3' lengths so I could have some to play with. I practiced on a scrap piece before I ever attempted to use one of my 90's. Took me 2-3 bends to figure out if I pulled it 2 inches away from the heat, and waited for an extra 20-30 seconds, and once I felt the limp noodle thing start to happen, give it about another 10 seconds, I had it without any cracking or bubbling. It was really fun to learn, and if you go into it knowing you're gonna screw some up and budget for some extra so you can practice, you'll find yourself using your practice bends before you know it. Thanks Jay!
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Too bad it's changed already because RUclips creators don't have freedom of speech
Thank you Jay, i am doing my first watercooling build and your videos have been very helpful
For a second i misread *DON'T LET YOUR LUBE GO LIMP!*
That would be a weird video.
I actually did my first loop thanks to your other video and the one showing off the HydroX series. So this video shows off a lot I learned while working on the Corsair pmma. My new rig looks awesome and no leaks EVER. Thanks Jay!
Jay is the amin too for pc tips, he isn't the only PC content, but I never overlook a video, honesty and not just trying to sell you the newest parts are why I will never see this man as over rated. Just started wanting to water cool, watched his video on basics and boom this drops.
In light of all the EKWB drama -- I would be interested in hearing/seeing your opinions and reviews on other water block manufacturers such as Byteski, Alphacool, etc. Looking at finally doing an open loop myself and now that EKWB is a mess I'm curious about other manufacturers and their quality.
Check some of his recent watercooling videos, he talks about a much cheaper fitting company that seem to work very well!
@@ravenovatechnologies6554 Yeah I've seen the cheaper AIOs that were featured -- I'm interested in the GPU water blocks for open loops that aren't EKWB given the issues associated with them right now. Thanks :D
@warderkeeju I totally understand, gpu blocks seem to be the hard part.
I'm not planning to bend any tubing soon, but I love educational videos like this. 👍
Love the video, would love to see your techniques on cutting and measuring some complex bends for the more advanced class. I saw a great video where they used reference points in the case to measure the length of the tube and between the bends and how to calculate it. I'm a little curious if you have any great methods for getting great looks on the more complex builds.
I got a Harbor Freight special for like $9 on sale (probably $15 now) and it has worked great. Heat guns are simple, hot thing + blower fan.
Honestly, Harbor Freight is a good way to go for cheap niche use case tools, or for tools that you don't want to be afraid to get all sorts of jacked up (or even modify to fit your current needs).
Thanks to you Jay, I have built my first open loop PC. It looks great partially because of the good knowledge you are passing on! Cheers.
Looking forward to more of these. I watched this a day after upgrading from soft to hard tube, after watching your hard tube primer from about 8 years ago 😃
Jay setting us straight on bending tubes. For science.
Love the use of vernier's to get an exactly approximate distance measurement.
Yes Jay...thank you for touching on our tubing....types
This also helped me understand why 3D printing with PETG can be such a hassle with warping and peeling corners. That temperature change is pretty wild with how fast it is!
Myabe you can talk about some of the other tools you use. How to clean burs off the edges. Or the Primo Chill drill attachment. Or the air pumps to check for leaks. That was a game changer for me. As you stated once someone builds one, they will build more. All these tools are useful for a long time. Thanks for sharing.
Very good tips! I’m about to give this a go for my 14900ks. Some info on pressure testing the loop would be great. Keep the vids coming!
this is exactly what i was needing to plan my future watercooled build which will be my first custom loop and i was desperately needing a video like this with tips and tricks thanks!
Thanks Jay for the heat gun settings and timing etc, this is what I was wondering about. Brilliant!
id love to see more build stuff like this, tube stuff is the most intimidating part of custom builds for me
In the next “water cooling for dummies” series y’all do, can you go over the why/when to flush and clean components before loop filling? Or how to make your own mixture with correct biocide and corrosion inhibitors?
Glad you went over this demo again, really gonna help me on my first acrylic build soon, 😊
Project farm tested heat guns, and the HeatOne from Amazon was one of the cheapest AND best performing.
Also, thanks, Jay! Love you!
Your channel convinced me that i should go custom water cooling, at it was the best thing i did especially for my GPU. its so quiet while i game. maybe i suggest to make a video how to clean the tubes before assembling them. i used frosted tubes and the some of the dirt got stuck in the fins so i have to remove and clean them all.
Jay I want to you think about you said about the flexible tubing and it leaking plasticizer into the water over time. That it will ALWAYS do that. Now think about that soft plastic disposable water bottles and realize they are doing the same thing.
Yeah ive given up drinking anything from plastic if i can help it. Glass is de wey and also very available and cheap.
Very interesting!
I ended up working on my first solid tubing loop at the beginning of the year and learned lots following what you previously showed (...and shattered an acrylic tube in the process bc I was probably not patient enough at some point XD).
I managed some double bends and was so proud of them, even though fitting them was a pain, but boy did it take time (barely dialed the heat gun up so the warmup took ages) : now I know :D
Thanks for this video! :D
this was very informative thinking about watercooling in the future and will definitely watch his video again when the time comes
A nice straight cutting tool for the pipes might be a good thing to have too så you can create clean edges, maybe a deburring tool as well.
I needed a tighter radius than the jigs that I bought,so I used one of my wife's medicine pill bottle as a jig and a little patience to get what I needed, worked like a champ!
this series will be good as im just started looking at doing watercooling for a up coming intel 13th gen system
Hoping to do my first custom watercooling build with the pc case that Jay is designing.
So all these videos are very helpful for a beginner like me.
Looking forward to the next video :D
Copper tubing ❤️
Cool video, guys. I learn something every time I watch your videos.
Could you possibly do a video on were to buy the hardware from. Like your opinion/ best place to buy fittings and the hardware
Jay can we get a video about compound bending please ... I always have trouble with tubes with 2 bends in it ...
Topic Suggestion: Modding AIOs. I was really intrigued by the video a few years back where there was the one AIO that could be modded. I know these are meant to be contained, close loops, but I am sure there are some mods that could be done to them (flow meter, adding reservoir, etc.) Could be a fun Science with Jay episode.
The double entendre is strong in this one 🤣
Im loving the new editing style your using
Hey will start my first hardline PC later this week; Found a few videos how to bend them etc, simmilar to this one, but I found it hard to find a video that shows me how to messure right? Like how do I get the perfect length on a tube, where do I need to bend, how do I do multiple bends etc. Would be nice if you could make a video about that - think some more people would appreciate :)
So for me the biggest thing holding me back from doing a custom water loop is finding out what angle you need to get the tube to line up perfectly. If you could somehow come up with a good in depth video on how you go about finding the angle you need to make a specific run in your loop, It would honestly benefit me so much. This video was absolutely perfect in the amount of content and advice and demonstration there was. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make it!
I mean there is ways to calculate it. Measure both ways than use the formula. But eye balling worked for me
I don't get the impression that you calculate the perfect angle. Jay had said before that you make your bend on an oversized piece and then trim either/both ends to fit, so I feel it's more have a general plan and adjust as needed more than making perfectly measured/angled pieces upfront.
@@Juansonos you can calculate it. Just like welders do. It’s alittle much for water cooling and a jig I think is far faster and gets you there.
That was so interesting. I just bought some PMMA tubes that I'm going to have fun with for my AMD, Fractal Design North build 👍🙂
When I started watercooling I used those kinds of tubes. But I learn really fast that wasn't for me. since then I used actual glass tubing, copper tubing, and my most recent build carbon fiber tubing and so far the carbon fiber tubing is the best in my opinion. Now you can't bend it but you can buy it bent and 90, 45 and 60 degree angles or straight as well
8:42 The thermal transfer from air is mostly surface based, so larger diameter heats up faster. You assumption would work if it the outside diameter stayed the same and inside got smaller.
This was very helpful thank you. Are conventional pipe benders useful at all or is it all done by hand?
Hey Jay - This is good stuff! Could you also explain inside diameter and flow rates and how (if) that changes things. Old build from 2014 with 3/4" tubing seemed to cool best at slow pump speeds.
It'd be nice to get your take on the heat dissipation rate of various rads of various sizes. And also maybe some sience on "more rad more better" ☺️
I bought a harbor freight heat gun back when you were still making AMD FX videos for my first water cooling build. Damn things still works, pretty sure that's 1500x the average lifespan of a Harbor Freight tool
Jay! I would like to see a match-up with two identical/similar pc's, one with highend aircooling and the another with custom loop.
Perhaps a video on the more exotic tubing options ie: brass,copper, carbon fiber, possibly glass
I'm 40 this year, defiantly having to take closer care of my tubes!
Soft tube is so dang convenient and easy to use. We don't do things because they are easy though.
Hard line tube looks real good, but what a pain in the ass. Time to do a hard line system I guess, lmfao.
Plastic... 3D printed resin sealed hardline... or metal...
Saw a dude do copper pipe with way too many joints and elbows... so much brazing... looked so good after the polish.
My immature ass reading the first two paragraphs 😂 (Sorry bro I know you’re trying to make a sincere comment but I can’t help it)
@@inff3rno nah, you nailed the right maturity level to be reading my comments at 🤣
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Thanks Jay! Awesome video. Looking forward to seeing more "water cooling for dummies" videos!!!!!
What noone shows is how to measure your runs from point to point and where to start the bend to get it to mate point a to b
Exactly. I would love to see that video. I can bend tubing all day.
The easiest way is to use 90 degree fittings so you only have to do one bend in a tube. Then you just make the tube oversized for what you want and can trim each end of the tube back so it will fit.
When I did this for the first time, I bought 2x the tube I thought I was going to need. It sounds like a waste but it was the first time I had tried bending tube. I took my time trying the bends I needed and if I screwed up, I knew I had plenty of extra.
Mr. Watercooling I have a question that I think you are the most qualified to answer. I have a single 60mm*360 mounted on the side. I need to change it to a dual 27mm*360 mounting them one on the top and one on the side. My Question is would it be better (for thermals) to have my routing go from the pump to the first rad then to the cpu and then into the second rad back to tank? or from the pump to the first rad then to the second rad then to cpu and back to tank? Without testing I can see why both have benefits and downfalls. I only have the cpu in my custom loop (no gpu in loop) and will keep it this way. I just think that you will be the best to answer this. Just for info sake i have a I9 13900k.
Some people have been having PETG fail after being in service for a while due to coolant temps in their loops. I've seen several posts on reddit about it.
Only use PETG if you find it fun to remake all your tubes within the first year. PETG slowly deforms under pressure, so all your fittings will eventually leak. Ask my GPU how I know?
Hi, wonderful tutorial. Could you kindly make a tutorial on how to make complex tube bends? Because, I have struggled quite a bit to get the bends in the right place as it is hard to control. If it is just one bend then you just leave a bit excess on the ends and the trim to the lengths needed but for a complex/multi bend tube is a nightmare... Thank you
Use an extra piece of tubing to make a seperate 90 degree bend and a 45 degree bend so you can hold it up to judge where your tubing will go.
Jay could you do one on best way to get the length in between two 90 degree bends when going fittings lined up correct
I would like to see you address fitting,block and pump costs. The best for budget and the best for expensive..
A limp tube is always a problem!
I'm not water cooling my system, but watched the whole video to help out the channel. ;-)
now jay has giant straws, so he doesn't have look away from his screen while gaming
You sir are a first class bender.
Now perhaps, make a jank rig using polyurethane tubing to see if it has the same issues PVC has. One experiment we had with Plexi tubing is engraving, makes the thing look something else on an illuminated loop with colored coolant! Be sure to use the thicker stuff and never dig too fast, too hard nor too deep...
I would like to see experimentations based on radiators and fan placements.
Like I have a p500a, with a 420 mm in the front and a 240 mm on top. I would have the front and the top as intake, but I just recently switched my top to an exhaust, and I want to know if that even makes a measurable difference or not by exhausting already warm intake air from the front radiator, out the top radiator.
A neon sign artist can do wonders with glass bending.
Surprised he still doesn't made a 3d print or adjustable block with elements for bending tubes a different angles. Like a simple plate with blocks you can click in to guide the tubes etc for bending :)
Don't let your tube go limp hahaha the best YT title ever! 😂
I know there has been a push in the community for hyper accuracy in all things. I have to say I absolutely love your crossover of getting close to control but still just practical this is how it works in the real world. Keep showing practical demonstrations for all its worth.
Should do a video on the different types of water cooling liquids and their pros and cons
Great stuff for me (especially when I'm planning my first custom loop). An interesting topic to discuss, in my opinion (IMO), is the optimal number of radiators in a loop with a bottom intake connected in series to two top and side exhaust fans. I have a hunch that using three radiators (including the bottom intake) might be more effective than just two (top and side) based on the laws of physics (assuming the ambient temperature is significantly lower than the coolant temperature). Could you please verify this in your system?
Absolutely riveting content.
Thanks for this, will show some friends that were freaking out
Thanks! I learned things today :)
Makes me want to get tube and supplies to do this to the computer i did a soft tube setup on.... sad thing is i really dont use that pc, though im currently thinking of reformatting it and making ity new daily since my current daily just crashed the other night and wont boot now.
Ahhh good old jay. That is how i learnd to bend. So here is a late Thank you!
Never make a custom loop so this is interesting!
Thanks so much for making these vids
Liam Le has a brand new AIO that exits the hoses on the side, in the middle, rather than on the end. That way, you don't run the hoses over your ARGB Ram. Some people are smart enough to run their hoses at the rear of the case, but are few and far between.
love the vids jay could u plz do a vid about byski fittings and ocool if they are decent compared to ekwb
I have a serious question @JayzTwoCents in germany, we sometimes use big iron balls to optimize the diameter across the whole bent for the Gutter pipes. It looks better, and should improve the Water Flow. Did you also try the get a laminar Flow in your tubing right after the pump to reduce noise?
An industrial build would look cool. Brass/copper/black/Safety yellow and orange/ fire red. Probably not all the colors but a mix of a few. Copper tubing is always my favorite on a lathe. Stainless is nice but it doesn't look as good in my opinion. Then instead of the typical connectors, bsp to crimp Copper would really look nice. Unless you feel like brazing the lines
Note to self, tube gets goopy before it starts to blister
I might never water cool but I am learning. In turn becoming more comfortable with the idea.
My tube will never be limp again, thank you Jay.
@JayzTwoCents I have old loop and soon it will be time to deep cleaning. You think vinegar would be good for the job? Few minutes to clean rads inside...
I have a Thermatake Level 20 XT case. When I build my next system this one will become my first water cooled build. this case supports a lot of Radiators. Other then the WOW factor of having multiple Radiators will I gain anything from more then 1.
In my experience PETG is the easiest to handle, it also doesn't scratch as acrylic. But acrylic is more bright and looks like glass, PETG is a little bit less bright. But acrylic needs more attention to handle. So both have pro's and con's.
Might be a super dumb question, but would you be able to 3d print some water cooling tubes? Maybe you can get some interesting runs. Just don't know how well it might hold up, or even if it woudl be water tight
Jay, I didn't know what kind of tube you think I was thinking of. First thing going through my head was "it's totally tubular, dude!" :D
Looks like Acrylic needs about 4-5x as much time as PETG to get it to the point where you're ready to bend it. That means if you figure 10 minutes to do bends for your loops with PETG, you'll need closer to 45 minutes to get to the same point with Acrylic.
Anecdotal data... so... anecdatal?
One of these days I'll try a bit of custom watercooling. I only just got my first AIO last year (I've been on air since I put together my first PC back in the 486 days - my first two builds were an AMD K6-2/350 and a Pentium 75). And I'm currently waiting to pick up a CPU to upgrade my current build to a 7th-to-9th gen Ryzen.
jay should make a video on Spirals !!