the reason why the choreography is different is because there are minors in the group! if you watch carefully, they don't show the full shot of that scene in the mv, not even their full bodies, they just show the members that are not minors (if i'm not mistaken). Hope this helps!
its still kinda weird how they made them do it tho atleast they didn’t show the minors doing it in the m/v but they probably felt so grossed out getting watched by old ppl in the studio
Regardless of what's happening with the girls and the company, this was a really impressive debut and I'll be keeping an eye on them in future. The whole mini album was really good. I had it on a loop the first week it was out. I know basically nothing about the scandal, and I'm not going to look into it, because I'm not intending to dive too deeply into the group, and I refuse to feed those trashy kpop scandal articles with my clicks. But you'd think by now kpop fans would learn not to blindly trust either side when a scandal emerges. It's usually somewhere in the middle, and it's always a shit show for everyone involved. It's just unfortunate for the girls who worked so hard to debut just to get slapped with this thing.
@@jasonfisher8529 right! now, everybody flaming garam has a reason as there is rock solid proof of the bullying, but before it was better to just stay neutral until something was proven
@@victjsofjsmdngor Well, this aged horribly, Garam turned out to be innocent and got her career ruined cause some pathological liar got mad that she defended her friend from her-
both sides are still coming out with their versions of the story, so yeah i guess its important to keep a cool head and listen to both sides and be neutral, as we dont know what really happened. great reaction as usual!
im ngl if this was a both sides thing id deff wait for THE truth to come out, however the objextive truth already has. by the korean ministry of education saying garam had a level 5 bullying incident so she 100% has done something messed up even if we may nvr know what exactly she did. leaked level 4 cases stressed the severity of what one can do so garam definitely did something beyond just kids being kids you know?
@@ladievengeance1577 no he just explained the type of each level punishment and each school has its own standard of judgment. he didn't directly talk about grm
The one with the short hair is Chaewon! Shes a former member of Izone which you know very well since you watched quite a few of their MV’s and Dance Practices, shes amazing, she was one of my biases in Izone and is my bias in this group now:).
I love that you keep the issue at bay and focus on the art. Yes, bullying is a serious issue and that's why we should take every statement with a grain of salt while waiting for the final verdict of what is "THE TRUTH". So for now, I'll just vibe with their album. And btw, their song Blue Flame is also fire! I hope you can also check that out.
I have to say, with all the hype and expectations that came with Le Sserafim's debut, they totally lived up and even surpassed mine! So cool to see all the former I*ZONE debuting with new groups or solos so well!
i looove the reaction, i felt the same way after i watched the video. it’s not super complex or anything but the simplicity i think is what makes it a really strong debut and sets them apart. i think if you want to see some more le sserafim you might want to check out their bside track blue flame, they promoted it alongside i’m fearless. the dance for it is so bouncy and maybe even flirty, and the song is sooo good. btw i’m so glad to see you back!
6:42 I don't know if you noticed it before but that "cutie with a short hair" is Kim Chaewon. Yep, the same Kim Chaewon who is a former IZ*ONE member, one of your most beloved groups. And the one wearing the cat ears helmet 6:16 is another former IZ*ONE member, Miyawaki Sakura. Sakura and Chaewon are reunited again in a new group.
ChaeWon is part of IZ*ONE fanMade Unit JoYuRiz.. Sakura is from Japanese Idol group HKT48 and AKB48 and the 2nd place Winner of Produce48 that later became Member of IZ*ONE HyunJin is with Chaewon and Sakura on Produce48 Kazuha is an ex Ballet Prodigy
The fact that people attack others cause of their opinions is just so stupid. Like they actually believe only their opinions are right/matter. You do you girl and leave that trash behind.
It really sucks that you even had to make that intro... That is so dumb of some people. Why can't everybody relax and let the truth come out before jumping to conclusions? Good god. I completely agree with your method. This really was one of the best debuts in history. AWESOME! :)
@@nahqiv Sounds very much like what happened with Soojin. She was also twelve but had ADULTS ganging up on her at the time. Then they come back and ruin her career when she is an adult. The events were half her life ago and nobody (or not enough people, anyway) took growth as a person into any consideration at all before jumping to conclusions. We still don't have all the details (which makes the whole situation even worse), for the sake of privacy, but now Soojin's public career is OVER and the group is down a member. All of this over ALLEGATIONS and no actual proof, plus a recant of 'oh, maybe she wasn't even actually there when people bullied me' but her career is still just over and done with. Jesus. I really hope the best for her in whatever she is up to these days. She has to be doing SOMETHING, SOMEWHERE, right? I just hope she's okay... Obviously we still need to wait-and-see for this case but I certainly hope things turn out differently. SOMEBODY had better do a REAL investigation before blame gets tossed around (unlike the case with Soojin).
thina, you really have great sense of musicality and i always love it when you point it out cos i get to appreciate the song and choreo more! especially at 15:40 that was so cool
As far as I know, one of or their creative director was one of SM’s previous director who handled F(x)’s albums especially the pink tape album and some red velvet albums too. She was very detailed about concepts then and I think that’s why Le sserafim already has a strong concept
The one you mentioned is minhee jin, she was the one who directed f(x) album, but she was not in change of lesserafim. She created her own brand called ADOR and another girl group will be debuted very soon.
Their choreo is so crisp!! So in sync very Source Music choreography :) Pls check out their Fearless Studio Choom and Blue Flame performances!! Also just a quick note: they only did that floor choreo for the mv....the original choreo is what they did in the dance practice
I was afraid that the issue will factor in how you react to them, so I'm thankful I watched the disclaimer first. You're the first one to notice how subtle their choreography formations change! You can actually see it much better with a sky cam (which you can definitely find on RUclips - just search for "LE SSERAFIM sky cam").
Love this debut and their other single Blue Flame. I hope they can come out the other side of this scandal unscathed. I'm the same way with scandals I always wait to judge especially after the AOA debacle. These girls worked so hard to be having these issues already. I also don't like jumping to conclusions with these bully cases after what Cube did with Soojin 😭. The evidence so far against Garam is not looking good but I also feel weird how people's reaction is to bully her now. I absolutely love this choreo. I like the way the song is simple kind of like XG Tippy Toes which I love! Yunjin and Chaewon are fighting for my bias spot!!!
for clarification i'm not defending the girl, but they were 12 and garam got punishment for what she did so the outrage towards her is something i simply don't get... what more do people want from her? the victim has already said she didn't want an apology or anything, she just wanted to make the post and the only demands that are made from the lawyers is that hybe apologies to the victim, for hybe to drop the lawsuit and for hybe to make the statement that garam is the bully and not the bully victim. attack hybe all you want, they should've never sued a 16 y/o but why are people so hardset on bullying the former bully?
i think the issue is the severity of what she did. whatever she did granted her a level 5 punishment which, despite people saying it’s subjective to the school, schools do not just give them out lightly. 2018 wasn’t exactly that long ago, and more people have come out (like her dance team) and accused her of bullying them too which would be more recent. a lot of people don’t truly grasp the difference in bullying when it comes to korea and other countries like america and the UK, it’s severe and one of the biggest reasons the suicide rate is so high. if she was a grown adult and this had come out, then i’d understand the whole ‘she was only 12’ part like with soojin, but this was pretty recent (allegedly) and i think that’s why people aren’t using that excuse for her much.
@@xzlenn9868 i get its pretty recent but 4 years in child terms are not recent at all,,, no one is the same person at 16 then when they were at 12. and yeah the degree 5 is definitely bad but it’s been confirmed by the lawyers summery report from the school violence committee that no physical violence was involved. many people think she threatened the victim because of the half naked picture and that was considered verbal violence. the mother of garam said she got degree 5 recommend as punishment and she agreed to it meaning that if she didn’t, garam would have gotten a lesser degree so the severity is questionable. now again, im not defending her, i still don’t get why people would attack and bully a child that has already been punished for her actions
@@liesje194 i agree! the people out here bullying a 16 year old girl is just ridiculous. and yes, you’re correct in the sense that she is different from when she was 12. i’m only a year older than garam and i think back at the things i did 5 years ago and can’t believe some of the things i did/got away with. with what garam’s mother said, it’s very tricky to determine whether what she says is credible due to it only being word of mouth. i understand that the victim may be hurt and upset that someone who caused her to attempt suicide becomes famous with no other repercussions, but in all honesty i feel as though the thing that makes this situation worse is hybe’s response. their response to her taehyung allegations were “garam never had bangs” and “garam has never liked male idols”, both being disproven by the photo of her with bangs and a bts sticker on her phone. this is what makes people doubt hybe, the inconsistency. another thing, the fact they would rather go to court than allow garam to apologise despite confirming that something happened. at the end of the day garam is still a minor, it would be so much less added stress for her if they just settled this with an apology and left it at that. again, i’m neither defending nor coming for her, but i think it’s best to keep an open mind and see things from every perspective. there’s very clearly two sides to this story and it’s a huge ‘he said, she said’ situation. i just hope it’s settled soon and that the two can sort this out privately- however, i don’t believe garam or le sserafim will ever fully be able to recover from this scandal
@@xzlenn9868 ohh no i agree with you, it’s a 100% hybe’s fault considering the victim didn’t want anything from garam and instead got a lawsuit and had to undergo a round of bullying online. tho it is true that it’s a bunch of “he said but she said” which makes it a whole lot more confusing and the official reports and statements keep it vague as hell. i get that tho since this is a case involving minors. the suicide attempt is not officially true btw, the only one that was the one the victim did recently because of hybe. a bunch of classmates that come forward said they victim tried but they also said the victim got bullied out of school which the victim herself stated wasn’t true at the beginning. i actually like their debut album and i’m sure they’ll be alright, tho i don’t know if that will include garam or for how long it wouldn’t include garam. i just wish she gets through this and doesn’t let the bullying get to her and that hybe just apologized and drops the lawsuit like the lawyers are demanding. hybe could’ve just made a statement along the lines of “yeah we know she bullied and we’re sorry that happened to you but she got punished for her actions and got correct therefor we will keep her” or something. would’ve been so much better than suing a 16 y/o
@@liesje194 oh i didn’t realise the first suicide attempt was just speculation! but i also really enjoyed their debut album!!! i’m a huge wiz*one so i was really anticipating their debut! it’s just sad that all this is happening to early on in their career :( i hope things get sorted so they can have a smooth comeback… though i feel as though album sales may be down for a while since people don’t wanna pull garam. but tbh? idk why hybe tried to put two young girls through a court case. not only is it stressful, but with all the added hate garam is getting it would definitely take a toll on her mental health. i’m glad that both parties decided to negotiate rather than go through court!
Chaewon is getting to like coffee. She said she like latte on Weekly idol hahaha. Anyway, thank you for reacting to them. Love your analysis to their choreography, its so cool and fun to watch their performance❤
You should check out produce 48 after checking out I-land .. produce 48 Is a survival show aired in 2018 .. 3 members from Le sserafim was in that show Sakura, Chaewon ( former iz*one ) and Yunjin
Garam not even a bully. Don’t listen to the negative people. They’re just ruining le sserafim reputation by jumping to conclusions. Probably not even a real fan.
I’m staying neutral in the Garam situation I’m not jumping to conclusions at all because now a days it’s so easy for people to photoshop anything now they can forge documents very easily very easily as well so all this evidence against may just be faked. But for the ones who are sitting here calling a Garam the names they have and how much hate she is getting the things some of these people are saying about her and treating her is absolutely horrible and honestly you people are no better than the bully your just as bad for bullying Garam online she isn’t even a legal adult yet she is a minor a MINOR and the things people have said about her to me is just plain horrible and makes you no better than the bully. If she did than let her reflect on her mistakes and if she did it when she was 12 who really knows what there doing at 12 years old seriously when I was 12 I wasn’t the nicest person either I was trying to fit in with the right crowd so I would try to be cool like them and sadly maybe I joined in a few times with making fun some people and of course that wasnt me I was only 12 the older you get the more you realize your stupid mistakes you make but in no way does she deserve the harassment Garam has gotten. People make dumb decisions in their life we all do stupid stuff when we are young that does not give you the right to harass someone else or try to ruin their career.
The thing I don't like about 6 member girl group is that there's always 1 behind who is blocked. I noticed it first with Everglow. It's either EU or Onda. I always feel bad for the member behind.
i think that by your reaction you're a chaewon stan lol can't blame you tho she's so cute but so cool at the same time. she and sakura were in izone and we can tell they have more years of experience than the other girls ^^
I'm not really into white knighting, but you got attacked after your 0.0 reaction? That's pretty sad, but I guess there are a lot of stans that barely have an understanding of how the world actually works. You must be deleting the straight on attacks, because I can't see your fans standing for that.
@@malunecestmoi I'm speaking for the people that want her back, not you dorks who'll believe anything you read before all the facts of the case come out.
I had noticed, some fans were a bit sensitive and on the edge if someone doesn't appreciate or like o.o . Apparently you have to like it because they are talented
I think she actually really loved the song, not sure why she was attacked as I didn’t see the comments or anything. It’s bullshit either way. People really do get attacked when they say they loved the song.. I personally loved it and it’s one of my fave debuts of this year. Idc what everyone else likes, so I’m not sure why some went ape shit over those who genuinely loved the song and didn’t have anything bad to say about it. People really enjoyed coming together and hating that song tho.. music is never THAT serious. You like or dislike a song, move on. People really didn’t cuz of reaction videos.
I honestly didn’t like the song O.O at in any way but that doesn’t mean those girls don’t have talents I’ve seen their other videos and man there talented girls but honestly O.O was bad I’m sorry it was the first kpop song I never even added to a playlist I’d even watch their live shows and I’d prefer to mute it that’s just my personal opinion and it is 2022 and um I think we all have the right to not like or like a song lol and not get hate for it like O.O sucked plain and simple lol. But that don’t mean the girls aren’t hella talented. Much love hun always
@@macgoryeo I dont see anything could affect them in the future other than the antis. As a multiple gg stan, a person leaving or staying in a group doesn't change anything. The vibe of the group stays no matter what. What matters is the antis that kept lowering down them. For Le sserafim, maybe there is a reason why they debuted garam.
That's 🧢 right there! If she's back that means she's innocent! At that point I don't care if fans stop stanning LE SSERAFIM, because the opposite is the same for a lot of fans who were there from the beginning! New fans won't be very effected by the situation, still some of them would feel something is off about the group! This happened to me with older generation groups! I could imagine the opposite though! because if... 1. Garam is innocent! 2. Everything against her were False 3. Her fans would be very happy for her and would have more courage to participate with us! 4.Haters have no excuse to hate! So that's gives me already butterflies! 5. Hate might still a thing but as unnecessary! So is gonna be less than 1% or even better no hate at all! 6. You might wrote this comment because you're jealous of her! I personally don't know you but please don't blame me! Blame your comment! I mean I could see clearly that you're jealous through your weird comment! At the end of the day LE SSERAFIM was born as six members and they gotta be six members asap! If you think that introducing a new member could be an solution, that could be wrong and that could be an opportunity for haters to start hating again! LOL The best thing could be happening is to bring Kim Garam back! Of course if the truth came out and she is really an innocent person! Nothing but love and support to all the queens including my/our queen Kim Garam. 💖 Peaceout 💗✌
@@k-pop245 Yesss. I feel like blaming 1 person just for their past lives is bs. Its kinda sad seeing garam looking sad when they performed live. Some won't stop to argue and hate on her just because of the incident. People should just focus on their future. Ngl Garam is one of the members that made me like Le Sserafim. Her voice in the album b sides is just angelic. ...and her sassy attitude in Fearless mv is just 👌🏻 Her leaving the group or being on hiatus made the vibe a lil different. Its 🧢 if anyone thinks other members is better in replacing her parts of the song
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the reason why the choreography is different is because there are minors in the group! if you watch carefully, they don't show the full shot of that scene in the mv, not even their full bodies, they just show the members that are not minors (if i'm not mistaken). Hope this helps!
this!!!
its still kinda weird how they made them do it tho atleast they didn’t show the minors doing it in the m/v but they probably felt so grossed out getting watched by old ppl in the studio
It's actually a move from Michael Jackson's song The Way You Make Me Feel choreo/mv
@@chickenhappy3607 its not exactly like that
@@valegxx it is go watch the Michael Jackson music video from 1987 The Way You Make Me Feel
Regardless of what's happening with the girls and the company, this was a really impressive debut and I'll be keeping an eye on them in future. The whole mini album was really good. I had it on a loop the first week it was out.
I know basically nothing about the scandal, and I'm not going to look into it, because I'm not intending to dive too deeply into the group, and I refuse to feed those trashy kpop scandal articles with my clicks. But you'd think by now kpop fans would learn not to blindly trust either side when a scandal emerges. It's usually somewhere in the middle, and it's always a shit show for everyone involved. It's just unfortunate for the girls who worked so hard to debut just to get slapped with this thing.
"But you'd think by now kpop fans would learn not to blindly trust either side when a scandal emerges."
Amen to this, exactly this.
@@jasonfisher8529 right! now, everybody flaming garam has a reason as there is rock solid proof of the bullying, but before it was better to just stay neutral until something was proven
@@victjsofjsmdngor no because stan twitter doesn’t have the capability to understand what the ministry of education says
garam is innocent
@@victjsofjsmdngor Well, this aged horribly, Garam turned out to be innocent and got her career ruined cause some pathological liar got mad that she defended her friend from her-
@@tjsquibbofficial it’s been a year since but i supported her, i just meant that it was better for people to stay neutral on issues like this 😭 sorry
both sides are still coming out with their versions of the story, so yeah i guess its important to keep a cool head and listen to both sides and be neutral, as we dont know what really happened. great reaction as usual!
The voice of reason
im ngl if this was a both sides thing id deff wait for THE truth to come out, however the objextive truth already has. by the korean ministry of education saying garam had a level 5 bullying incident so she 100% has done something messed up even if we may nvr know what exactly she did. leaked level 4 cases stressed the severity of what one can do so garam definitely did something beyond just kids being kids you know?
@@ladievengeance1577 you are definitely not keeping up with the latest news, so maybe you should
@@ladievengeance1577 no he just explained the type of each level punishment and each school has its own standard of judgment. he didn't directly talk about grm
true!
I'm so excited for these girls! They just debuted and are already breaking records
The one with the short hair is Chaewon! Shes a former member of Izone which you know very well since you watched quite a few of their MV’s and Dance Practices, shes amazing, she was one of my biases in Izone and is my bias in this group now:).
From 'Short hair cutie' to 'Short hair queen' 😂 this is too cute!
This debut is like exactly half way between XG's Tippy Toes and H1-Key's Athletic Girl. Already a lot of great debuts this year!
bruh and I love both songs too! thats why Fearless is such a vibe for me 🔥🔥
Le Sserafim are so lit!!!! Fighting!!! And awesome reaction as always
I love that you keep the issue at bay and focus on the art. Yes, bullying is a serious issue and that's why we should take every statement with a grain of salt while waiting for the final verdict of what is "THE TRUTH". So for now, I'll just vibe with their album.
And btw, their song Blue Flame is also fire! I hope you can also check that out.
I have to say, with all the hype and expectations that came with Le Sserafim's debut, they totally lived up and even surpassed mine! So cool to see all the former I*ZONE debuting with new groups or solos so well!
i looove the reaction, i felt the same way after i watched the video. it’s not super complex or anything but the simplicity i think is what makes it a really strong debut and sets them apart. i think if you want to see some more le sserafim you might want to check out their bside track blue flame, they promoted it alongside i’m fearless. the dance for it is so bouncy and maybe even flirty, and the song is sooo good. btw i’m so glad to see you back!
short haired girl (chaewon) and first chorus front middle girl (sakura) are former iz*one members
i was excited to see your reaction for le sserafim! i'm glad you're back
6:42 I don't know if you noticed it before but that "cutie with a short hair" is Kim Chaewon. Yep, the same Kim Chaewon who is a former IZ*ONE member, one of your most beloved groups. And the one wearing the cat ears helmet 6:16 is another former IZ*ONE member, Miyawaki Sakura. Sakura and Chaewon are reunited again in a new group.
ChaeWon is part of IZ*ONE fanMade Unit JoYuRiz..
Sakura is from Japanese Idol group HKT48 and AKB48 and the 2nd place Winner of Produce48 that later became Member of IZ*ONE
HyunJin is with Chaewon and Sakura on Produce48
Kazuha is an ex Ballet Prodigy
please check out their blue flame stage! it's so fun and fresh!
You should check their "Blue Flame" stage. 💙
I enjoy your reactions and wish you the best.
The fact that people attack others cause of their opinions is just so stupid. Like they actually believe only their opinions are right/matter. You do you girl and leave that trash behind.
It really sucks that you even had to make that intro... That is so dumb of some people. Why can't everybody relax and let the truth come out before jumping to conclusions? Good god. I completely agree with your method.
This really was one of the best debuts in history. AWESOME! :)
@@nahqiv Sounds very much like what happened with Soojin.
She was also twelve but had ADULTS ganging up on her at the time. Then they come back and ruin her career when she is an adult. The events were half her life ago and nobody (or not enough people, anyway) took growth as a person into any consideration at all before jumping to conclusions.
We still don't have all the details (which makes the whole situation even worse), for the sake of privacy, but now Soojin's public career is OVER and the group is down a member. All of this over ALLEGATIONS and no actual proof, plus a recant of 'oh, maybe she wasn't even actually there when people bullied me' but her career is still just over and done with. Jesus.
I really hope the best for her in whatever she is up to these days. She has to be doing SOMETHING, SOMEWHERE, right? I just hope she's okay...
Obviously we still need to wait-and-see for this case but I certainly hope things turn out differently. SOMEBODY had better do a REAL investigation before blame gets tossed around (unlike the case with Soojin).
@@nahqivthat "children" destroyed people's lives why should it not affect their lives??????
"Short hair cutie" our Chaewonieeee 😭
thina, you really have great sense of musicality and i always love it when you point it out cos i get to appreciate the song and choreo more! especially at 15:40 that was so cool
i also recommend you watch their stage for "blue flame", it's very different from fearless but it's very fun and refreshing still
As far as I know, one of or their creative director was one of SM’s previous director who handled F(x)’s albums especially the pink tape album and some red velvet albums too. She was very detailed about concepts then and I think that’s why Le sserafim already has a strong concept
The one you mentioned is minhee jin, she was the one who directed f(x) album, but she was not in change of lesserafim. She created her own brand called ADOR and another girl group will be debuted very soon.
I've watched the whole reaction and it was great! Keep it up queen Thina 👑🔥💖
Tinaaaa I have been waiting for this!!!!
Their choreo is so crisp!! So in sync very Source Music choreography :)
Pls check out their Fearless Studio Choom and Blue Flame performances!!
Also just a quick note: they only did that floor choreo for the mv....the original choreo is what they did in the dance practice
Have not even gotten to the reaction yet: just came to say I love the heartfelt disclaimer
you have to watch their blue flame stage!
LE 55ERAFIM FIGHTING
you should check their album its firee!!
I was afraid that the issue will factor in how you react to them, so I'm thankful I watched the disclaimer first.
You're the first one to notice how subtle their choreography formations change! You can actually see it much better with a sky cam (which you can definitely find on RUclips - just search for "LE SSERAFIM sky cam").
i definitely recommend you to react to one of their b sides “blue flame” i think you’ll like the choreography!
please watch blue flame!!
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I'd love to see what you think of the promoted Bside, Blue Flame. I love that choreo too.
Love this debut and their other single Blue Flame. I hope they can come out the other side of this scandal unscathed. I'm the same way with scandals I always wait to judge especially after the AOA debacle. These girls worked so hard to be having these issues already. I also don't like jumping to conclusions with these bully cases after what Cube did with Soojin 😭. The evidence so far against Garam is not looking good but I also feel weird how people's reaction is to bully her now. I absolutely love this choreo. I like the way the song is simple kind of like XG Tippy Toes which I love! Yunjin and Chaewon are fighting for my bias spot!!!
My heart still hurts when I hear about Soojin.. she didn’t deserve what happened to her. Come back to us Soojin we are waiting!!!!
@@brandonm39 agreed!!!! She deserved so much better!!! Cube failed her miserably 😭😭
This reaction was it! There’s a real truth to all this and we just gotta be on the sideline and let both party fix this.
for clarification i'm not defending the girl, but they were 12 and garam got punishment for what she did so the outrage towards her is something i simply don't get... what more do people want from her? the victim has already said she didn't want an apology or anything, she just wanted to make the post and the only demands that are made from the lawyers is that hybe apologies to the victim, for hybe to drop the lawsuit and for hybe to make the statement that garam is the bully and not the bully victim.
attack hybe all you want, they should've never sued a 16 y/o but why are people so hardset on bullying the former bully?
i think the issue is the severity of what she did. whatever she did granted her a level 5 punishment which, despite people saying it’s subjective to the school, schools do not just give them out lightly. 2018 wasn’t exactly that long ago, and more people have come out (like her dance team) and accused her of bullying them too which would be more recent. a lot of people don’t truly grasp the difference in bullying when it comes to korea and other countries like america and the UK, it’s severe and one of the biggest reasons the suicide rate is so high.
if she was a grown adult and this had come out, then i’d understand the whole ‘she was only 12’ part like with soojin, but this was pretty recent (allegedly) and i think that’s why people aren’t using that excuse for her much.
@@xzlenn9868 i get its pretty recent but 4 years in child terms are not recent at all,,, no one is the same person at 16 then when they were at 12.
and yeah the degree 5 is definitely bad but it’s been confirmed by the lawyers summery report from the school violence committee that no physical violence was involved. many people think she threatened the victim because of the half naked picture and that was considered verbal violence. the mother of garam said she got degree 5 recommend as punishment and she agreed to it meaning that if she didn’t, garam would have gotten a lesser degree so the severity is questionable. now again, im not defending her, i still don’t get why people would attack and bully a child that has already been punished for her actions
@@liesje194 i agree! the people out here bullying a 16 year old girl is just ridiculous. and yes, you’re correct in the sense that she is different from when she was 12. i’m only a year older than garam and i think back at the things i did 5 years ago and can’t believe some of the things i did/got away with.
with what garam’s mother said, it’s very tricky to determine whether what she says is credible due to it only being word of mouth. i understand that the victim may be hurt and upset that someone who caused her to attempt suicide becomes famous with no other repercussions, but in all honesty i feel as though the thing that makes this situation worse is hybe’s response.
their response to her taehyung allegations were “garam never had bangs” and “garam has never liked male idols”, both being disproven by the photo of her with bangs and a bts sticker on her phone. this is what makes people doubt hybe, the inconsistency. another thing, the fact they would rather go to court than allow garam to apologise despite confirming that something happened. at the end of the day garam is still a minor, it would be so much less added stress for her if they just settled this with an apology and left it at that.
again, i’m neither defending nor coming for her, but i think it’s best to keep an open mind and see things from every perspective. there’s very clearly two sides to this story and it’s a huge ‘he said, she said’ situation. i just hope it’s settled soon and that the two can sort this out privately- however, i don’t believe garam or le sserafim will ever fully be able to recover from this scandal
@@xzlenn9868 ohh no i agree with you, it’s a 100% hybe’s fault considering the victim didn’t want anything from garam and instead got a lawsuit and had to undergo a round of bullying online.
tho it is true that it’s a bunch of “he said but she said” which makes it a whole lot more confusing and the official reports and statements keep it vague as hell. i get that tho since this is a case involving minors. the suicide attempt is not officially true btw, the only one that was the one the victim did recently because of hybe. a bunch of classmates that come forward said they victim tried but they also said the victim got bullied out of school which the victim herself stated wasn’t true at the beginning.
i actually like their debut album and i’m sure they’ll be alright, tho i don’t know if that will include garam or for how long it wouldn’t include garam. i just wish she gets through this and doesn’t let the bullying get to her and that hybe just apologized and drops the lawsuit like the lawyers are demanding.
hybe could’ve just made a statement along the lines of “yeah we know she bullied and we’re sorry that happened to you but she got punished for her actions and got correct therefor we will keep her” or something. would’ve been so much better than suing a 16 y/o
@@liesje194 oh i didn’t realise the first suicide attempt was just speculation! but i also really enjoyed their debut album!!! i’m a huge wiz*one so i was really anticipating their debut! it’s just sad that all this is happening to early on in their career :( i hope things get sorted so they can have a smooth comeback… though i feel as though album sales may be down for a while since people don’t wanna pull garam.
but tbh? idk why hybe tried to put two young girls through a court case. not only is it stressful, but with all the added hate garam is getting it would definitely take a toll on her mental health. i’m glad that both parties decided to negotiate rather than go through court!
You should check their "Blue Flame" stage
Chaewon is getting to like coffee. She said she like latte on Weekly idol hahaha.
Anyway, thank you for reacting to them. Love your analysis to their choreography, its so cool and fun to watch their performance❤
I have so much respect for you. Just wanted to say that.
reminds me of XG as well. these is the two groups i currently love
This group totally best debut in hype laybel and the song is fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You should check out Blue flame! It's so cute and fun!
you definitely will love their song, blue flame. check it out! it has the choreography too~
Thank you for acknowledging the issue
You should check out produce 48 after checking out I-land .. produce 48 Is a survival show aired in 2018 .. 3 members from Le sserafim was in that show Sakura, Chaewon ( former iz*one ) and Yunjin
ooohhh i wanna see u react on blue flaaaame
XG 2nd Single 【MASCARA】 2022.06.29 I can,t wait!
shes speaking facts so yall should listen :D
React to blue flame pleaseee💘
The floor twerking move is taken from Michael Jackson's The Way You Make Me Feel choreo/mv
PLEASE REMEMBER WE DONT KNOW THE FULL TRUTH
please check their song blue flame ❤
Fire Quote🔥
Try out Smiley by Yena, and Jo Yuri's song
The one you liked (short hair cutie) is Chaewon! Former Iz*one member and the leader
Please react to Classy's shutdown mv & dance practice. You'll be blown away.
Please, do your ears a favour and listen to the mini album.
Blue Flame and Sour Grapes are especially amazing.
Please watch Blue Flame choreography 💙
Garam not even a bully. Don’t listen to the negative people. They’re just ruining le sserafim reputation by jumping to conclusions. Probably not even a real fan.
Can you react to Le Sserafim's Blue Flame?
I’m staying neutral in the Garam situation I’m not jumping to conclusions at all because now a days it’s so easy for people to photoshop anything now they can forge documents very easily very easily as well so all this evidence against may just be faked. But for the ones who are sitting here calling a Garam the names they have and how much hate she is getting the things some of these people are saying about her and treating her is absolutely horrible and honestly you people are no better than the bully your just as bad for bullying Garam online she isn’t even a legal adult yet she is a minor a MINOR and the things people have said about her to me is just plain horrible and makes you no better than the bully. If she did than let her reflect on her mistakes and if she did it when she was 12 who really knows what there doing at 12 years old seriously when I was 12 I wasn’t the nicest person either I was trying to fit in with the right crowd so I would try to be cool like them and sadly maybe I joined in a few times with making fun some people and of course that wasnt me I was only 12 the older you get the more you realize your stupid mistakes you make but in no way does she deserve the harassment Garam has gotten. People make dumb decisions in their life we all do stupid stuff when we are young that does not give you the right to harass someone else or try to ruin their career.
You don't sound like youre being neutral
Omg i just realized IM FEARLESS was just the same letters with LE SSERAFIM but in diff order😭 im so stupidddd
The thing I don't like about 6 member girl group is that there's always 1 behind who is blocked. I noticed it first with Everglow. It's either EU or Onda. I always feel bad for the member behind.
i think that by your reaction you're a chaewon stan lol can't blame you tho she's so cute but so cool at the same time. she and sakura were in izone and we can tell they have more years of experience than the other girls ^^
Where did you get ur mic?
06:03 i thought my speaker went bad
hi Thina!!! what's the brand of your new mic??? i love that it's white HAHAHA
"Short hair queen" yas she's kim chaewon, EX-IZONE member along with Miyawaki Sakura
Is it just me the car scene in this mv just looks like Love Dive from IVE and Secret Story Of The Swan by iz*one?
Cutie with the short hair and sakura are old izone members
Please reaction to lesserafim blue flame 🔥
You must react to blue flame plsss😭
Please check out Class:y’s debut SHUTDOWN, love you!
Can u do a reaction for eunbi GLITCH please👉🏻👈🏻
the movie version is good too
They purposely changed the choreo since both Garam & Eunchae are minors.
I'm not really into white knighting, but you got attacked after your 0.0 reaction? That's pretty sad, but I guess there are a lot of stans that barely have an understanding of how the world actually works. You must be deleting the straight on attacks, because I can't see your fans standing for that.
Told you huh; XG'S competition methinks
Not really, XG isn't a K-pop group.
when are you going to make reaction on OH MY GIRL?
We want Garam back! This group is great.
True!!
speak for yourself, don't come
speak for yourself please i choose to support ot5
@@malunecestmoi I'm speaking for the people that want her back, not you dorks who'll believe anything you read before all the facts of the case come out.
@@shinratensei5305 Same goes for you.
Try reacting to NiziU videos
tbh the same aged girls be doing the same dance moves on tiktok soo
Garam already left group??;)
Nah she didn’t. She just went on hiatus
@@jason.guoo1 I hope it is not so
Just want to say that there 2 ex iz*one member in this group :)
Why did people attack you for NMIXX? Seriously humanz!
I had noticed, some fans were a bit sensitive and on the edge if someone doesn't appreciate or like o.o . Apparently you have to like it because they are talented
@@macgoryeo I didn't. Not my cup of tea. Doesn't give them a right to harass people though.
I think she actually really loved the song, not sure why she was attacked as I didn’t see the comments or anything. It’s bullshit either way. People really do get attacked when they say they loved the song.. I personally loved it and it’s one of my fave debuts of this year. Idc what everyone else likes, so I’m not sure why some went ape shit over those who genuinely loved the song and didn’t have anything bad to say about it. People really enjoyed coming together and hating that song tho.. music is never THAT serious. You like or dislike a song, move on. People really didn’t cuz of reaction videos.
I honestly didn’t like the song O.O at in any way but that doesn’t mean those girls don’t have talents I’ve seen their other videos and man there talented girls but honestly O.O was bad I’m sorry it was the first kpop song I never even added to a playlist I’d even watch their live shows and I’d prefer to mute it that’s just my personal opinion and it is 2022 and um I think we all have the right to not like or like a song lol and not get hate for it like O.O sucked plain and simple lol. But that don’t mean the girls aren’t hella talented. Much love hun always
Am I the only one who find's that hanging silver SUV a bit cringy and bad cgi? The rest looks so much more consistent
She's actually sitting on a real car. In front of a green screen.
I can imagine fans stop stanning le sserafim when garam is back.
@@macgoryeo I dont see anything could affect them in the future other than the antis. As a multiple gg stan, a person leaving or staying in a group doesn't change anything. The vibe of the group stays no matter what. What matters is the antis that kept lowering down them. For Le sserafim, maybe there is a reason why they debuted garam.
That's 🧢 right there!
If she's back that means she's innocent!
At that point I don't care if fans stop stanning LE SSERAFIM, because the opposite is the same for a lot of fans who were there from the beginning! New fans won't be very effected by the situation, still some of them would feel something is off about the group!
This happened to me with older generation groups!
I could imagine the opposite though!
because if...
1. Garam is innocent!
2. Everything against her were False
3. Her fans would be very happy for her and would have more courage to participate with us!
4.Haters have no excuse to hate! So that's gives me already butterflies!
5. Hate might still a thing but as unnecessary! So is gonna be less than 1% or even better no hate at all!
6. You might wrote this comment because you're jealous of her! I personally don't know you but please don't blame me! Blame your comment! I mean I could see clearly that you're jealous through your weird comment!
At the end of the day LE SSERAFIM was born as six members and they gotta be six members asap!
If you think that introducing a new member could be an solution, that could be wrong and that could be an opportunity for haters to start hating again! LOL
The best thing could be happening is to bring Kim Garam back! Of course if the truth came out and she is really an innocent person!
Nothing but love and support to all the queens including my/our queen Kim Garam. 💖
Peaceout 💗✌
@@k-pop245 Yesss. I feel like blaming 1 person just for their past lives is bs. Its kinda sad seeing garam looking sad when they performed live. Some won't stop to argue and hate on her just because of the incident. People should just focus on their future. Ngl Garam is one of the members that made me like Le Sserafim. Her voice in the album b sides is just angelic. ...and her sassy attitude in Fearless mv is just 👌🏻 Her leaving the group or being on hiatus made the vibe a lil different. Its 🧢 if anyone thinks other members is better in replacing her parts of the song
@@izzypeezy9139 it's easy for you to say this, some empathy please
@@shinratensei5305 ?