Fallout 76: Pepper Shaker 2023 - Guide & Review

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  • Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2024

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  • @Tiomun42
    @Tiomun42 Год назад +168

    But did you try the "Party shaker"? Everyone in the party runs a pepper shaker and shares either a heavy gunner or shotgun perk. Everyone gets an extra 60% damage boost since theirs a total of 6 cards to choose from instead of just 3. Or thanks to the dual nature of the pepper shaker use a mixture of the other perks to get the most dps and faster reload or stagger possible. Either way it's a blast ;) to try with some friends😄

    • @AdrianaGrande
      @AdrianaGrande Год назад +16

      A video on this would be great Mr Turtle!!!

    • @Jules-77
      @Jules-77 Год назад +11

      Sounds excellent. I only know one other person, son, & he’s Xbox, I’m pc. First time in ages I’ve missed having friends. 😂

    • @SnackGodd
      @SnackGodd Год назад +4

      ⁠@@Jules-77I feel that pain my step dad is on Xbox while I’m on pc I really wish they would bring crossplay to the game

    • @FezMooseLive
      @FezMooseLive Год назад +1

      My god I have news for my friend

    • @HappyDad408
      @HappyDad408 Год назад

      Oh nice good comment

  • @ericdeutsch6079
    @ericdeutsch6079 Год назад +32

    Wish they would have shown the pepper shaker some love this meat week. Prime receivers, new elements or even a skin would have been sweet.

  • @akosgaspar9681
    @akosgaspar9681 Год назад +21

    Crippling got a minor boost with the latest update: previously, when you crippled a legendary enemy, its limbs healed when it regenerated, now you need to cripple it only once.

  • @andrewbrock3675
    @andrewbrock3675 Год назад +18

    As a quad, faster fire rate faster reload peepershaker owner. It's an amazingly fun gun.

    • @SovereignKnight74
      @SovereignKnight74 Год назад

      As soon as I got it, I discarded my double barrel shotty. LOL

  • @Unspoke356
    @Unspoke356 Год назад +50

    The regen on the vampires is ridiculous 😂

    • @beastabuelos6421
      @beastabuelos6421 Год назад +8

      I use mine at encrypted and link to all 3 pylons, with the imposter smacking me. Still won't die.

    • @cycleboy8028
      @cycleboy8028 Год назад +4

      @@beastabuelos6421 Same as Vamp Chainsaw... I'll tank the Encrypted in Stealth, pinning in place, waiting for people to turn on the pylons... no problem.

    • @beastabuelos6421
      @beastabuelos6421 Год назад +2

      @cycleboy8028 i mean i have all 3 pylons on myself and tanking the imposter

  • @dhunter1133
    @dhunter1133 Год назад +8

    I think the most interesting thing I saw was that the legendary effects are listed individually as mod slots, which suggests that Bethesda is already thinking ahead about allowing you to change individual legendary effects without having to change all at once.

    • @christophercrafte
      @christophercrafte 3 месяца назад +2

      your comment is 10 months old, I hope you heard about whats on the test server.

  • @CemD85
    @CemD85 Год назад +6

    Super Mutant Behemoth be like: ''Cripple me like one of your french girls'' 8:02

  • @BSTLIVE1
    @BSTLIVE1 Год назад +13

    We need an updated video showcasing Executioners on the bosses that don't regen.

    • @gaicoz5
      @gaicoz5 Год назад

      I really think exe weapons still not in top tier, 50% damage bonus is easily reached by junkies/aristocrat/bloodied and the racial improvements.
      And considering that the bosses will take longer to reach 50% of the health ... you would lose a lot of dps until executer effect got useful.

    • @BSTLIVE1
      @BSTLIVE1 Год назад

      @gaicoz5
      You do realize that you can carry more than 1 weapon right? It's possible to use AA or bloodied for the first 60% then burn with the Exe. Exe when active tops both in damage , but you know that , right?

    • @naxxy00
      @naxxy00 Год назад +4

      ​@@gaicoz5executioner's is multiplicative damage so it's much stronger

  • @StationroadRatrods
    @StationroadRatrods Год назад +7

    I paid 12,000 caps for the pepper shaker plan like a month ago, I had no idea it dropped from an event 🤣

    • @Jules-77
      @Jules-77 Год назад +1

      Ooh 🫂 feel that.

    • @luzhang2982
      @luzhang2982 Год назад

      That's relatively cheap! I would pay that even with the event going on, because its a PITA to get it to drop even with an event

    • @Billerson23
      @Billerson23 Год назад +1

      It's def not a common plan from what I remember. 12k caps is a steal

    • @achilles_nz469
      @achilles_nz469 Год назад

      Damn a steal i bought mine for 2k caps like 6 months ago 😂😂

    • @danielhamby9448
      @danielhamby9448 Год назад +1

      Damn I had like 10 plans in my vendor that sold for like 1200 caps

  • @Lemminjoose
    @Lemminjoose Год назад +3

    I've been using a pepper shaker forever, but I had no idea about the projectile speed thing. I'm going to have to try switching from plasma to laser.

  • @tt128556
    @tt128556 Год назад +7

    Bought the plan for 20K a while ago, tested it once and found it more or less useless. Money well spent.

    • @panilsson8427
      @panilsson8427 7 месяцев назад

      Okay 20k? If you dont want it could i have it? I got trash stuff started for some weeks ago

    • @maplelake6963
      @maplelake6963 3 месяца назад

      ditto

  • @chaotic_tier-0029
    @chaotic_tier-0029 Год назад +4

    Regs also has Pepper Shaker mod plans in Vault 79

  • @Genesis.1-1
    @Genesis.1-1 6 месяцев назад +1

    I happened upon a Vampire Pepper Shaker at a player vendor for pretty cheap. I bought it and a bunch of other stuff because my caps were maxed out. I haven't had a chance to use it yet but appreciate your insight on the weapons and best perks for using it. I'm going to try a build to take advantage of its abilities.

  • @ddrhero
    @ddrhero Год назад +8

    The pepper shaker is great for group crowd control. Its similar to mei's freeze gun where it slows down enemies.

  • @jamesanthony8438
    @jamesanthony8438 Год назад +2

    I'm currently saving up my Legendary mods to try and get 3 star Vampire placed on my new pepper shaker. I love my vampire guns and chainsaw _soooo_ much!
    Enjoyed the video, passed the link along to one of my buddies, and finally got around to subscribing. You're welcome! =)

  • @LoUMageddo
    @LoUMageddo Год назад +7

    Had the pepper shaker for some time. Been there, done that. Ready for some new camp plans and outfits. Thanks for the video!

  • @SaundersJ420
    @SaundersJ420 5 месяцев назад

    Picked a plan up for 9999 earlier ? Is it worth using as a unyelding commando ? Or sell ?

  • @GrapplerS10
    @GrapplerS10 Год назад +4

    No mention that explosive variety isn’t an option!… naughty turtle! 😂

  • @bemusedkidney8619
    @bemusedkidney8619 Год назад +2

    Going to make sure I get myself one this time, made the mistake of scrapping my last one.

  • @marcinos303
    @marcinos303 11 месяцев назад

    Is it worth keeping the two-shot version of the pepper shaker🤔???
    I recently came across one of these from the Legendary Super Mutant and I'm wondering if I should play with it.
    I play as a stealth sniper, with a Gauss gun, and for short distances I use a Gauss shotgun and I have perks for shotguns and rifles, plus energy perks.

  • @erikmikado6103
    @erikmikado6103 Год назад

    Great video!
    I rolled a V2525 pepper shaker, what build would you use it on? l have low health commando and OE low health PA chat, thank you!

  • @NA8..
    @NA8.. Год назад

    Excuse me… but how and where do I find pepper shaker plan? Do Grahm sell it in his inventory? Or is the plan obtainable by finishing Grahm event ?

  • @anoniemuss824
    @anoniemuss824 Год назад +2

    I’ve been wanting to get this weapon since I learned of it so I can use it as my scorchbeast crippler for my melee characters. Also, I believe you can buy the plans from Regs and probably the Raiders vendor too, not just Settlers vendor.

  • @LeviZReaper
    @LeviZReaper Год назад +1

    Got the pepper shaker plan off someone ages ago. Wasn't cheap i remember that but luckily i was able to talk em down 😅

  • @madmaymason7544
    @madmaymason7544 Год назад +2

    I haven’t got the plan to craft the pepper shaker yet, after seeing this I want to try it even more 😅

  • @lunarhexagon8108
    @lunarhexagon8108 Год назад +1

    I will see what I will get and what not, surely I want weapon plan and possibly keep some randomly dropped legendary one, way back then when I started to play, some random guy gave me one but I had no carry capacity and level to use it and I assumed weapons be just possible to find or craft so I sold it to scrip machine
    camp plans are usually interesting thing even if selection system sucks-a-lot in Fo76, so they may get never used no matter how amazingly great those are either

  • @eoinc9511
    @eoinc9511 Год назад

    I have an AA ffr PS and a two shot FFR PS, are either of them viable rolls?

  • @oesiusdeus9157
    @oesiusdeus9157 11 месяцев назад +1

    Running Vampper Shaker w/ stangler heart power armor and a dedicated stangle pepper perk load out. It's amazingly fun, een if it's not rhe most deadly.

  • @BiscuitsMcSchitz
    @BiscuitsMcSchitz Год назад +1

    Run a quad faster fire plasma and love it. Huge field of fire to get hits and cripples everything.

  • @clarencefye2998
    @clarencefye2998 Год назад +2

    In fallout universe shoutgun bullets travel faster than lasers???

  • @jeremiaholivarez2430
    @jeremiaholivarez2430 3 месяца назад

    If you have limb damage as a legendary star is enforcer required?

  • @nauseousatom7178
    @nauseousatom7178 Год назад +1

    I worked my tail off a couple years ago to get Pepper Shaker plans. Now i want the Holy Fire

  • @Atzros
    @Atzros Год назад

    "If you don't have any modifications, you purchase plans for Pepper Shaker modifications at Foundation, from Samuel."
    You may also purchase modifications from Mortimer in Crater - I prefer Mortimer, because you can just warp to the Crater Core, turn to the left, and he's right there. In contrast, Samuel requires a trek through Foundation, or warping to the Interior, and sitting through a loading screen.

  • @madanthonywane
    @madanthonywane Год назад +1

    I just switched to carnivore build for meat week 😩 This build looks fun to use especially with so many Perks available.

  • @mkey570
    @mkey570 Год назад +1

    Excellent! Now I can pull my pepper shaker out of storage and run amok with it again! Thanks again Turtle, thanks for the video!

  • @concretespecial9953
    @concretespecial9953 Год назад +4

    I surely miss my Quad Explosive shaker. Explosive shakers should be in the game for ALL to enjoy.

  • @stephenstonge7968
    @stephenstonge7968 Год назад

    If you need plasma ammo, take a plasma caster into daily ops. The damage per shot will have you gaining potentially hundreds of ammo, especially if you focus headshots.

  • @Poke-ladd
    @Poke-ladd Год назад +1

    Is the plan 100% spawn the first time you do meat week or is it rare? And you have to constantly do it

    • @AngryTurtle
      @AngryTurtle  Год назад

      rare drop

    • @Poke-ladd
      @Poke-ladd Год назад

      @@AngryTurtle damn

    • @danielhamby9448
      @danielhamby9448 Год назад

      Last year I pretty much did all of the events afk and only got like 16 plans

    • @Poke-ladd
      @Poke-ladd Год назад

      @@danielhamby9448 so you just stay at the event spawn , go into to photo mode or something and just walk away?

    • @danielhamby9448
      @danielhamby9448 Год назад

      @@Poke-ladd yeah I just went to one of those drum barrels and it’ll keep you active at the event.

  • @oddballaklyama4395
    @oddballaklyama4395 Год назад +1

    What the heck, I was just learning about this earlier and was building perks. Thank you so much!

  • @KismetBP
    @KismetBP Год назад +1

    Pepper Shaker + 3 Star Enforcer perk = Getting those Cripple daily/weekly’s done EASY MODE! ❤🤘

  • @billy_cross
    @billy_cross 6 месяцев назад

    One of the only guns in the game, where your choice of the mob barrels on it each have a purpose each try to use case scenario usually there’s just like several things that you never use one thing that you always use and that may be one thing is circumstances are just right, but this one you know if you’re using wrangler do you want the single barrel? Definitely no no other option the lowest damage but it’s also adding poison on every shot that’s picking down over three seconds 1043 seconds for each pallet. It’s stackable for each shot fix poison at once down devastating and PVP for somebody who doesn’t have poison. Resist you lost to fight before even startedthat you can choose like turtles, fat, or the flower firing but higher damaging one or if you have a lot of ammunition faster

  • @jankemjunkie6564
    @jankemjunkie6564 Год назад

    How do you quickly get modifications for this weapon? Just build and scrap them like normal or is there a way that’ll allow me to save my resources.

    • @AngryTurtle
      @AngryTurtle  Год назад

      samuel at foundation sells plans

  • @ashwilliams7964
    @ashwilliams7964 Год назад +2

    Already have the pepper shaker plan just want more of them to sell. More interest in the camp plans. I also sell fully moded pepper shakers for people without the plan

  • @lukedudley5030
    @lukedudley5030 Год назад +1

    The pepper shacker is a great mob killer but without quad can be a bit of a pain with its small capacity :-) i lile this gun but quad is a must..unless you use it as a vampire weapon and then its useful too

  • @ChuckLynch-x4s
    @ChuckLynch-x4s Год назад

    Quick question do i need ALOT of ammo to use peppershaker?

  • @ldej9366
    @ldej9366 Год назад

    I’ve got a B50c25 pepper shaker is that any good?

  • @Xhotic
    @Xhotic Год назад

    just got a Quad 25% WS 25% Vatsreduction pepershaker drop from a 3 star a moment ago randomly (insane) and man im curious if it will maybe be good in vats only costs 25 so not terrible haha

  • @ConettaF
    @ConettaF 6 месяцев назад

    I've been using the combat shotgun in the same way for a while now. I had no idea Pepper Shaker was a shotgun, too.
    This will replace that old shotgun.

  • @daemonheart1553
    @daemonheart1553 Год назад

    I keep one on my main character to cripple the queens wings. That's all I really use it for. Does the job hellla goood, great if you wanna solo the beast

  • @FezMooseLive
    @FezMooseLive Год назад

    So will the flamer work with say...a science perk or energy?

  • @beastabuelos6421
    @beastabuelos6421 Год назад +4

    Been using vampire faster fire rate for a while. You can't die with it, literally impossible. Weak as hell though in that configuration. I want to get an anti armor one now. Wish they'd let it roll explosive with the buckshot magazine.

    • @danielhamby9448
      @danielhamby9448 Год назад

      I’ve had an Anti Armor with the 25 fast fire rate once but ended up rolling a Quad which ended up being way better

  • @AdrianaGrande
    @AdrianaGrande Год назад +1

    Would Strangler Heart armor actually work well with this gun because of the high amount of projectiles? Maybe a video testing that would be great

    • @AngryTurtle
      @AngryTurtle  Год назад +3

      i did use it in my SH review video and no not enough benefits

  • @JapanScams
    @JapanScams Год назад +1

    You should also try it with strangler heart lots of pvpers uncludijg myself use it and if people don’t have funky duds they get 1 tapped. In pve try a two shot with formula p and see how much acid it does to anything

  • @jannejot9026
    @jannejot9026 Год назад +1

    Anyone know why Samuel is missing from his usual spot in foundation?

    • @Jules-77
      @Jules-77 Год назад

      I wondered this too. I thought maybe he was playing an instrument but no gone for a sneaky something, somewhere!

  • @Jules-77
    @Jules-77 Год назад

    Thank you 🐢. Watching you always makes me want what you are using. Pity the person behind the screen here is me!!

  • @wolfygirlowo
    @wolfygirlowo Год назад

    samuel isnt there at the foundation for me :(
    anyone know why..?
    im a level 86 and kinda new to the game, picked it up a few weeks back

    • @AngryTurtle
      @AngryTurtle  Год назад

      did you complete quest line that ends with raiding the vault with gold?

  • @survivorsfederation4346
    @survivorsfederation4346 Год назад

    I’ve been sitting on a v ffr fr pepper shaker for like a year, now I know I should have tried it.

  • @YoureWrongImRightGetOverIt
    @YoureWrongImRightGetOverIt Год назад +1

    Im excited for new plans this year, pepper shaker never really wowed me even with both damage perk cards on it still was kinda meh but thats just me

    • @danielhamby9448
      @danielhamby9448 Год назад

      The only use I’ve ever had for it is a Vampires as a secondary weapon for when health gets low..

  • @Vividly_Doge
    @Vividly_Doge Год назад

    I've been grinding the cookout event to get the pepper shaker but only have been getting plastic fruit bowl plans.

  • @loryt690
    @loryt690 Год назад

    does it can get explosive?

  • @Lordoftheapes79
    @Lordoftheapes79 Год назад

    Why is there no Prime magazine?

  • @billy_cross
    @billy_cross 6 месяцев назад

    Turtle are you saying regular shotgun shells are hit scan

  • @Huckleberry68
    @Huckleberry68 Год назад

    You can do the pepper shaker huh ? Gimme the pepper shaker dude shake that pepper , ah yea that'll work , you got the pepper dude .

  • @mlhclh09
    @mlhclh09 Год назад

    Got one ,quad from a level 2 player for 100 caps in a trade at white springs station last week

  • @JekTheFirst4554
    @JekTheFirst4554 Год назад

    HOW DO I GET IT

  • @BiggieCheese45
    @BiggieCheese45 Год назад +1

    I love this gun and still run it but its too damn weak for the amount of ammo you're using up. I'm all for trade-offs but the dev team needs to give it some love

  • @LadyKagero
    @LadyKagero Год назад

    Just got this and an extra plan for my twin sis, since she missed a few events

  • @pipelinecowboy
    @pipelinecowboy Год назад

    Just saw the oldwr video on this and was sad I missed out 🔥🤘🏽this is epic !!!

  • @diminios
    @diminios Год назад

    Do single barrel and dual barrel Pepper Shakers also have a spin up time? I'd imagine not, but still, I'd rather ask.

  • @blazedehart2748
    @blazedehart2748 Год назад +1

    I’m gonna redownload the game just to try and get one of these. Still never tried the Pepper Shaker out!

    • @animenut69
      @animenut69 Год назад +1

      If your on ps4 I'll give you one.

    • @blazedehart2748
      @blazedehart2748 Год назад

      @@animenut69 that’s super nice of you man but I am on PC thank you for your offer though!

  • @dimaknopf
    @dimaknopf Год назад +1

    Its a bit ridiculous that in order to deal any real damage you have to be low health with maxed out perk cards. I think too many people cried that enemies were too easy. This is why we can't have nice things!

  • @chrisbrezzy707
    @chrisbrezzy707 Год назад

    Anyone have a extra plan for it I’m on PC .

  • @bryanmartinez9428
    @bryanmartinez9428 Год назад

    Currently trying to get the pepper shaker

  • @YoBiggieSmall
    @YoBiggieSmall 6 месяцев назад

    were can i fund this weapon

    • @AngryTurtle
      @AngryTurtle  6 месяцев назад

      plan drops during meat week event

  • @paganSK
    @paganSK Год назад

    I can unlock it in Meat Week?

  • @V1nceKn1ght
    @V1nceKn1ght Год назад

    Is it better than the damn early
    Modified sold by people game Gatling laser😮?

  • @josiahjohnson5778
    @josiahjohnson5778 Год назад

    really wish the pepper shaker could use ultracite plasma ammo

  • @Rochambeauxv
    @Rochambeauxv Год назад

    Behemoth is relaxing.... LOL!

  • @ImperialDog1999
    @ImperialDog1999 Год назад +1

    for explosive gun heavy build,will the perks for heavy gun affect it?as it state only for non explosive weapon

    • @AngryTurtle
      @AngryTurtle  Год назад +1

      pepper shaker is not explosive

    • @cd15turb3d
      @cd15turb3d Год назад +2

      The pepper shaker cannot drop with the explosive legendary effect unfortunately, but the heavy gunner perks which state that they work with “non-explosive heavy weapons” actually work with any heavy gun which is not a launcher. Bethesda is just misleading with their perk descriptions. Basically those perks will not work with a missile launcher or grenade launcher or the mini nuke launcher. Other Heavy guns are classified as non-explosive Heavy guns wether they have the explosive legendary effect or not.

    • @ImperialDog1999
      @ImperialDog1999 Год назад

      i see thanks@@cd15turb3d

    • @ImperialDog1999
      @ImperialDog1999 Год назад

      i see thanks@@AngryTurtle

    • @Jules-77
      @Jules-77 Год назад

      A

  • @ThePudgypug22
    @ThePudgypug22 Год назад

    Crafted a quad/wt/spd shaker 🎉

  • @The_Cookie_Knight
    @The_Cookie_Knight Год назад +1

    I want to like it but the damage output is poor.

  • @panilsson8427
    @panilsson8427 7 месяцев назад

    Hahaha when the mirelurk king and the mirlurk was attacking you. and the mirelurk queen was crippled it was more like a artellery😅😂😂😂😂

  • @joshuabrown943
    @joshuabrown943 3 месяца назад

    I'm sad just found out u can't get explosive on this gun

  • @Mestari1Gaming
    @Mestari1Gaming 8 месяцев назад

    I want a military themed skin for the Pepper Shaker.

  • @anubisB
    @anubisB Год назад

    I was waiting for the meat week just for the pepper shaker !

  • @ptkenterprise70
    @ptkenterprise70 Год назад

    I bought the plan from a vendor 10xxx caps..
    Ima gonna try to farm the plans

  • @barelyasurvivor1257
    @barelyasurvivor1257 Год назад

    TY turtle another great video.

  • @lilb8407
    @lilb8407 Год назад

    Can this be a viable boss gun?

    • @cd15turb3d
      @cd15turb3d Год назад

      It’s a real struggle for end game bosses. The base damage is low and it’s damage is split between 16 projectiles so it doesn’t penetrate through their resistances and damage reduction very well. If you were going to try it you’ll need to lean heavily on stabilized and tenderizer and use the weapon mod option that gives the highest damage per shot. Otherwise it’s just very good for crippling those bosses, so it’s great as a support role on a team against a boss. Just not a boss killer.

    • @akosgaspar9681
      @akosgaspar9681 Год назад

      Nope, it's for crowd control. Fun to use on any quick enemies like ghouls, deathclaws, blue devils, etc.

    • @lilb8407
      @lilb8407 Год назад

      Thanks guys… that’s what I thought… but a boy can dream

  • @buttersalmons
    @buttersalmons Год назад

    I got lucky getting a plan pepper shaker by doing nothing in grahm's meat cook

  • @DarklordXelrick
    @DarklordXelrick Год назад

    Still waiting for a skin for the Pepper Shaker so that I do accidentally scrip it. Don’t want want to lose my Quad Faster Fire rate Faster Reload

    • @The_Fireworm
      @The_Fireworm Год назад

      I use a mod from nexus called "save everything" to prevent dropping or scrapping

    • @DarklordXelrick
      @DarklordXelrick Год назад

      @@The_Fireworm That is a PC only thing not on Consoles

  • @tecnicstudios
    @tecnicstudios 6 месяцев назад

    Just to let you: NEW SKIN FOR PEPPER SHAKER!

  • @bobdickens3674
    @bobdickens3674 5 месяцев назад

    I honestly think the reason why the pepper shaker is so weak is just because they made it benefit from so many different perks that it had to be so weak

  • @zachy427
    @zachy427 Год назад

    This game trolls me all the time. Played for 2 months never saw a Pepper Shaker plan at any player vendors and then the first time it did I found it for 4k caps so I definitely snagged it. Guess what plan I got yesterday from my first BBQ? The Pepper Shaker plan lol. This isn't the first time I bought a plan from a player vendor and I get it as a reward withing 24 hours.

  • @phturntup5
    @phturntup5 Год назад

    I got the pepper shaker plans for 5,000 fuel ....🎉🎉🎉

  • @SovereignKnight74
    @SovereignKnight74 Год назад

    This is my kinda weapon!

  • @lexus8018
    @lexus8018 Год назад +1

    Man, when this released everyone wanted one, then we found out it's a pretty mediocre gun when put up against all other heavy guns/shotguns

    • @Jules-77
      @Jules-77 Год назад

      I know what you are saying but it doesn’t look mediocre when the mighty turtle uses it. I use a vampire on my melee girl for crippling ranged. Works well.

  • @staarkcorez8740
    @staarkcorez8740 5 месяцев назад

    Is it normal getting this gun plan first try?

  • @MrDelgado559
    @MrDelgado559 Год назад

    I miss my TSE Peppershaker

  • @Chrysaphius86
    @Chrysaphius86 Год назад

    The trick is getting the plan to drop

  • @АртемКабаков-п5и

    This weapon is weak( i am not a walking dead of blooded build) and ammo to craft is expensive. Look around how often we see someone with it in Appalachia? For collection only.