Certainly! You can consider using a pre-feed tank from an older 50 or 100-liter system, as many people tend to discard these systems. A good approach is to search on platforms like OLX or get in touch with solar professionals who install new systems; they might be able to provide you with an old system at a scrap price. Another option is to visit places like Morwadi (PCMC) where there are large scrap yards, giving you the chance to find a used system. By following this strategy, you can keep your investment low while gaining a lot in return. If these options don't work out, you can always resort to buying a new 50-liter system as a pre-feed tank.
Thanks for solutions, but my problem is diffrent, I have Tata BP solar water heater which has solar panel box system , "not a glass Tube system" , problem no. 1 i don't get hot water even in summer sission, and don't get proper pressure , and 2) WATER Tank is leakaging, mechanical says tank is broken so change it but Tata company stops the production of solar system what shoud i do?
@@jaymuley1811 now a days these old systems have outdated and hence getting spare parts is a issue What you can try is scrap dealers many times preserve such things to make some money. Try there
Sir namastey.I want to fit solar from 3rd floor to down floor with out drilling slab. how can plumbing work suggest me piping Which type can be used.your pipes are looking flexible. Our plumber told that without drilling it's not possible.so please help me this out. Suggest any flexible pipe from terrace to ground floor for a single bathroom direct connection.
Namaste! I understand your concern about installing a solar water heater on your rooftop without drilling slabs. While traditional installations involve drilling, there are alternative methods and materials you can consider. Here's what I can suggest: Piping Options: Flexible PEX (Cross-linked Polyethylene) pipes: These are excellent for rooftop installations due to their flexibility, weather resistance, and ease of installation. They don't require extensive support and can be routed around obstacles without drilling. PEX pipes come in insulated and non-insulated variants. Opt for insulated pipes to minimize heat loss during water transfer. Thermally Bonded PVC Pipes: Another viable option is thermally bonded PVC pipes specifically designed for solar water heating systems. These pipes offer good insulation and can withstand high temperatures. However, they are less flexible than PEX and may require more support structures. Pre-Insulated Copper Piping: While copper pipes are durable and efficient heat conductors, they require careful insulation to prevent heat loss. Pre-insulated copper pipes address this issue but are the most expensive option among the mentioned ones. Installation methods: Wall Clamps: You can use wall clamps or brackets to secure the pipes along the exterior wall without drilling. These clamps come in various sizes and materials to suit different pipe types and wall surfaces. Ground Channels: If running pipes along the wall isn't feasible, consider using ground channels. These are U-shaped channels buried underground to protect the pipes from external damage and harsh weather conditions. Conduit Pipes: Encasing the pipes inside a larger conduit pipe adds another layer of protection and provides a neat appearance. You can choose from PVC or metallic conduit pipes depending on your budget and preference.
For that I have fitted 1kw heater coil in my solar system. Control switch is fitted on ground floor and I have also added water temperature indicator... So I switch On the heater coil and when water attends 50-55 degree then I switch it off. This arrangement helps me during rainy season or cloudy day
Yo jo ap dikha rahe ho usme kitna litre ka solar he single aur both milake kitne litres he? main feed tank kitne litres ka he aur pre feed tank kitne litre ka he?
Ok sir, actually i m thinking to purchase 200 litres lekin apka video dekhkar confusion hua he. 100 litre ke 2 liye to ok lekin konsi company best he sir,low maintenance and good quality
I have used simple audio cable having 2 colour wires in it, so that I can mark and connect correct ends 😊🙋but any simple cable will do having 2 separate lines in it
one option is use lower capacity solar water heater as a pre-feed tank. Another option is to get second hand solar water heater from the dealer which is less efficient but will serve purpose of pre-feed tank. In my case I have used my old solar water heater as pre-feed tank.
OK, I'll just try to explain. जो generally most घर मै होता है wo low pressure सोलर वॉटर heater होता है पर अगर आपको प्रेशर पंप lagana है तो uske लिये अलग किसम का हाय pressure सोलर सिस्टम lagana padega Solar water heaters are manufactured as pressure and non-pressure models. Pressure model (also called high pressure solar heaters) means, water in the tank are under high pressure, it's equal to the pressure of tap water. Non pressure model (also called low pressure solar heaters) means, water in the tank is under low pressure, and is equal to the gravity of the water. Hope this helps 🙋😊
To be honest with you I have not calculated the amount... Reason is that I also have installed solar panels on my home, so electricity bill is already lowered to great extent... So its combined effect of both solar systems.. Anyway, installing solar water heating surely reduces electricity bills and in my opinion its worth installing, although payback will happen over few years of time 👍🙋
rainy season made solar ch pani garam hot nahi mahnun m amchya solar wala sangitl , tar to bola aplya 3kw ch coil lavav lagel ani te coil dar 3 varshani change karwa lagel karn te kharab hot aas to mhantoy mag m amchya solar la te coil lau ka nako ??? ani coil lavlya var pani 1 tasat tapt aas to bola te coil lavu ka nako mag ???
How many years the system is installed? If its more than say 2 years then first thing is to clean the system, most likely the solar systems get affected due to mud formation in water (next time I clean my system I will put video of how much muddy water gets drained through the system) Since its summer season and still you are not getting hot water, this is my main suspect Other reasons are like outlet pipes not insulated properly or insulation damaged There can be multiple reasons, I am highlighting most important Hope this helps 🙋
@@SamadhanExplorer Okay, then you may please first clean the system (generally there is drain provided at the bottom side of tubes, from where you can remove dirt- practically mud) this will surely improve the performance .. please let me know if further guidance required
Generally you get standard fitting heaters of 1kw and 2kw. I have fitted 1kw heater coil. If you are going to fit on your own, then you need to check your heating system for provision to adopt the heater coil, then only its possible to fit readymade coil. Best is to get it done from the same dealer from where you purchased it. 🙋 If you have further doubts, you can send me the photos from side of the tank to check provision of coil, mail it to mahesh@trekbook.in (my reply to mail may be slightly delayed since I am in a village called Etikoppaka to see traditional art of making toys) 🙋😊
I have a 400L (200Lx2) tanks installed at my home. You can consider one as prefeed tank. Still we face problems in winters. In morning when everyone has to rush, no immediate hot water is available. We have to drain out almost 2-3 buckets before we get hot water from tap. Also, same is the case if there's gap in usage. It's really frustating when mother has to use hot water in kitchen and she has to wait for few minutes for that. Electric element is no great solution as due to volume of water, it too takes time. Moreover, if we have to resort to electric option only, why to invest so much in such thing. I have 4 washrooms+1 kitchen at my home and I sometimes think it would have costed me cheaper installing 5 geysers instead of this solar heater. Do you have any solution for these problems? (I have worked in solar power industry for 4-5 years, and I was of view that solar water heating got failed because of poor promotion from government side, as with the solar electirc rooftop systems. But I was wrong. Solar water heating is no doubt very beneficial for industrial usage where they need hot water round the year, thus they can save a lot using this. But for residential systems, I would prefer either go solely on electric or get a mix of both...i.e. Do get a small geyser installed at all the points where you need immediate hot water. Also, instead of solar water heater, you can better invest in solar electric rooftop system. That a better proportion that this)
I understand your frustration ... Considering the described issue, my opinion is that heat losses are happening in the pipelines (since they are diverted to each location in house) .. and such heat losses are phenomenal and should not be ignored .. Solution is to do high grade thermal insulation to the pipelines which will help you to great extent (Note - suggestion is based on description of problem) Hope this helps :-)
@@TrekBookIndia This won't work specially during winters! You will end yup draining cold water on all rooftop systems (Solar/Electric) if there's no continuos usage of hot water.
Pipes can be fitted with foam rubber or fiberglass sleeves help keep a pipe closer to the temperature of the water inside the pipe, but it does not add heat to the pipe hence temperature will slowing down the cooling effect. Finally every coin have 2 sides :-)
Thank You. Sir, 1. Your Suggestion Is A Good One - To Have A Feeder Tank. 2. Having Thermometer Connected May Not Be Needed, If You Install Newer Heating Coil As It Comes With Thermostat Which Switches Off Power To Coil Once Desired Temperature Is Reached. 3. One Suggestion Is To Replace The GI Pipe Connection That You Have (Sensor Is Attached) To Plastic As GI Pipe Causes Heat Loss.
@@TrekBookIndia Yesterday, I have installed the Thermometer as you explained to know the water Temperature. This helps one to know the Temp of water in the tank approximately at any time without going to the level where Roof Top Solar Water Setup is installed. Thank you for sharing your idea.
इसके कई कारण हो sakte है - पाणी mai जो mitti रहती है ऊस कारण सिस्टम में mud फॉर्म हो जाता है, तो ऊसे ड्रेन करणा जरुरी होता है... Jisase efficiency वापस बढती है - pipeline जो गरम पाणी carry करती है wo insulated होणा जरुरी है - ग्लास के उपर dust जमा हो जाती है, तो सोलर सिस्टम के ग्लास को क्लीन करणा जरुरी है - सिस्टम का डायरेक्शन साऊथ facing होणा जरुरी है - पेड का chav अगर आ रहा है तो चेक करे 😊🙋
Mera solar water heater 3rd floor pr hai, par bathroom ground floor par main, pipe se phle 3 ltr paani thanda aata hai, yeh samsya kase hal keren, please
Thermostat है मेरे सोलर वॉटर सिस्टम के अंदर पर wo 80 डिग्री सेल्सिअस तापमान ko कट off करता है.. Itne हॉट वॉटर की जरूरत नहि पडती है, so अब mai temperature 60 degree aneke बाद हीटर element switch off करता hu
Yes, you are right. You can calculate electricity consumption based on the heater coil rating and number of minutes or hours used. Then multiply the kwh rating (units consumed) to per unit rate, which will give you monthly consumption only for water heating. This will give you an idea of how much you will save by using solar water heating and the payback period. Hope this helps 😊🙏
बहोत सारे कारण हो sakte है, जैसे की - Type of solar system - tubular or plate type Direction of panel fitment Shadow of trees on panels Loss of heat through pipeline (non insulated piping) Dirt / mud in water Hard water
Thanks for your information m bhi abhi solar lagawa raha hu
Good Step 🙋 use as much natural resources as possible ❤️🇮🇳🙏
v good sir bot hi acha kam kiya u r genius, sir vertical wind turbine home mada jo kam hawa per bhi chaley kya bana saktey ho
Actually ये wind turbine mere dost ke पास lagaya hai... Jake dekhna padega 🙋
Hi can you suggest where to buy a Pre Feed tank in Pune or any other location?
Certainly! You can consider using a pre-feed tank from an older 50 or 100-liter system, as many people tend to discard these systems. A good approach is to search on platforms like OLX or get in touch with solar professionals who install new systems; they might be able to provide you with an old system at a scrap price. Another option is to visit places like Morwadi (PCMC) where there are large scrap yards, giving you the chance to find a used system.
By following this strategy, you can keep your investment low while gaining a lot in return.
If these options don't work out, you can always resort to buying a new 50-liter system as a pre-feed tank.
Thank you for the valuable information and solution on Solar water heater usage.
Most welcome sir 😊🙏
Thanks for solutions, but my problem is diffrent, I have Tata BP solar water heater which has solar panel box system , "not a glass Tube system" , problem no. 1 i don't get hot water even in summer sission, and don't get proper pressure , and 2) WATER Tank is leakaging, mechanical says tank is broken so change it but Tata company stops the production of solar system what shoud i do?
@@jaymuley1811 now a days these old systems have outdated and hence getting spare parts is a issue
What you can try is scrap dealers many times preserve such things to make some money. Try there
Sir namastey.I want to fit solar from 3rd floor to down floor with out drilling slab. how can plumbing work suggest me piping Which type can be used.your pipes are looking flexible. Our plumber told that without drilling it's not possible.so please help me this out. Suggest any flexible pipe from terrace to ground floor for a single bathroom direct connection.
Namaste! I understand your concern about installing a solar water heater on your rooftop without drilling slabs. While traditional installations involve drilling, there are alternative methods and materials you can consider. Here's what I can suggest:
Piping Options:
Flexible PEX (Cross-linked Polyethylene) pipes: These are excellent for rooftop installations due to their flexibility, weather resistance, and ease of installation. They don't require extensive support and can be routed around obstacles without drilling. PEX pipes come in insulated and non-insulated variants. Opt for insulated pipes to minimize heat loss during water transfer.
Thermally Bonded PVC Pipes: Another viable option is thermally bonded PVC pipes specifically designed for solar water heating systems. These pipes offer good insulation and can withstand high temperatures. However, they are less flexible than PEX and may require more support structures.
Pre-Insulated Copper Piping: While copper pipes are durable and efficient heat conductors, they require careful insulation to prevent heat loss. Pre-insulated copper pipes address this issue but are the most expensive option among the mentioned ones.
Installation methods:
Wall Clamps: You can use wall clamps or brackets to secure the pipes along the exterior wall without drilling. These clamps come in various sizes and materials to suit different pipe types and wall surfaces.
Ground Channels: If running pipes along the wall isn't feasible, consider using ground channels. These are U-shaped channels buried underground to protect the pipes from external damage and harsh weather conditions.
Conduit Pipes: Encasing the pipes inside a larger conduit pipe adds another layer of protection and provides a neat appearance. You can choose from PVC or metallic conduit pipes depending on your budget and preference.
Hi, i have a similar solar system at my house. How can I get hot water from all taps just like the solar in the monsoon season?
For that I have fitted 1kw heater coil in my solar system. Control switch is fitted on ground floor and I have also added water temperature indicator... So I switch On the heater coil and when water attends 50-55 degree then I switch it off.
This arrangement helps me during rainy season or cloudy day
Nice idea Mahesh sir.
V much useful.
Thank you very much 😊🙏
Hello , aapko Shock absorbers ki kami mehsus hoti hai kya aapke cycle pe ??
yes, shock absorbers are must on Indian roads
Yo jo ap dikha rahe ho usme kitna litre ka solar he single aur both milake kitne litres he? main feed tank kitne litres ka he aur pre feed tank kitne litre ka he?
Dono 100 liters के है
Ok sir, actually i m thinking to purchase 200 litres lekin apka video dekhkar confusion hua he. 100 litre ke 2 liye to ok lekin konsi company best he sir,low maintenance and good quality
@@itneti you can go for any local good company... Practically no maintenance required..
Can you please tell me how to connect extension cable to temperature sensor. What kind of extension cable is needed?
I have used simple audio cable having 2 colour wires in it, so that I can mark and connect correct ends 😊🙋but any simple cable will do having 2 separate lines in it
Thanks For Share This Experiance..💐
You are most welcome 😊🙏
where can i get pre-feed tank in Bangalore, or which provider gives this facility along with new solar
one option is use lower capacity solar water heater as a pre-feed tank.
Another option is to get second hand solar water heater from the dealer which is less efficient but will serve purpose of pre-feed tank.
In my case I have used my old solar water heater as pre-feed tank.
@@TrekBookIndia Thank you sir
Nice information sir
Thank you very much 😊🙏
presrised v/s non presrised solar water heater explane kariye, sir
OK, I'll just try to explain.
जो generally most घर मै होता है wo low pressure सोलर वॉटर heater होता है
पर अगर आपको प्रेशर पंप lagana है तो uske लिये अलग किसम का हाय pressure सोलर सिस्टम lagana padega
Solar water heaters are manufactured as pressure and non-pressure models. Pressure model (also called high pressure solar heaters) means, water in the tank are under high pressure, it's equal to the pressure of tap water. Non pressure model (also called low pressure solar heaters) means, water in the tank is under low pressure, and is equal to the gravity of the water.
Hope this helps 🙋😊
U r really talented😁😁😁
Thank you so much for your appreciation and support 😊🙏
Aap solar cooker ka video banao na ??🙏🙏
Good idea... I need to do some research first and then use it 💡
How much money have u saved after installing theses 2 soar water heaters ..
Our 2 months electricity bill is 4000/3500 rs.
Should we install these???
To be honest with you I have not calculated the amount... Reason is that I also have installed solar panels on my home, so electricity bill is already lowered to great extent... So its combined effect of both solar systems..
Anyway, installing solar water heating surely reduces electricity bills and in my opinion its worth installing, although payback will happen over few years of time 👍🙋
Nice observation..👍
Thank you very much 😊🙏
rainy season made solar ch pani garam hot nahi mahnun m amchya solar wala sangitl , tar to bola aplya 3kw ch coil lavav lagel ani te coil dar 3 varshani change karwa lagel karn te kharab hot aas to mhantoy
mag m amchya solar la te coil lau ka nako ???
ani coil lavlya var pani 1 tasat tapt aas to bola
te coil lavu ka nako mag ???
मी coil 1kw chi लावली आहे 100 L ला
आणि ते खूप छान काम करत आहे
@@TrekBookIndia coil dar 3 varshni badlavi lagte aas amacha solar wala boltoy ani 3kw chi coil lava boltoy
Good information
Thank you very much 😊🙏
i my socity now day not getting moring time hot water... please suggest to me
How many years the system is installed?
If its more than say 2 years then first thing is to clean the system, most likely the solar systems get affected due to mud formation in water (next time I clean my system I will put video of how much muddy water gets drained through the system)
Since its summer season and still you are not getting hot water, this is my main suspect
Other reasons are like outlet pipes not insulated properly or insulation damaged
There can be multiple reasons, I am highlighting most important
Hope this helps 🙋
@@TrekBookIndia 2 year complete
@@SamadhanExplorer Okay, then you may please first clean the system (generally there is drain provided at the bottom side of tubes, from where you can remove dirt- practically mud) this will surely improve the performance .. please let me know if further guidance required
@@TrekBookIndia thaks you sir...i am punekar
I have jain 200 liter, which electric heater i should fit
Generally you get standard fitting heaters of 1kw and 2kw.
I have fitted 1kw heater coil.
If you are going to fit on your own, then you need to check your heating system for provision to adopt the heater coil, then only its possible to fit readymade coil.
Best is to get it done from the same dealer from where you purchased it. 🙋
If you have further doubts, you can send me the photos from side of the tank to check provision of coil, mail it to mahesh@trekbook.in
(my reply to mail may be slightly delayed since I am in a village called Etikoppaka to see traditional art of making toys) 🙋😊
I have a 400L (200Lx2) tanks installed at my home. You can consider one as prefeed tank. Still we face problems in winters. In morning when everyone has to rush, no immediate hot water is available. We have to drain out almost 2-3 buckets before we get hot water from tap. Also, same is the case if there's gap in usage. It's really frustating when mother has to use hot water in kitchen and she has to wait for few minutes for that. Electric element is no great solution as due to volume of water, it too takes time. Moreover, if we have to resort to electric option only, why to invest so much in such thing. I have 4 washrooms+1 kitchen at my home and I sometimes think it would have costed me cheaper installing 5 geysers instead of this solar heater.
Do you have any solution for these problems?
(I have worked in solar power industry for 4-5 years, and I was of view that solar water heating got failed because of poor promotion from government side, as with the solar electirc rooftop systems. But I was wrong. Solar water heating is no doubt very beneficial for industrial usage where they need hot water round the year, thus they can save a lot using this. But for residential systems, I would prefer either go solely on electric or get a mix of both...i.e. Do get a small geyser installed at all the points where you need immediate hot water. Also, instead of solar water heater, you can better invest in solar electric rooftop system. That a better proportion that this)
I understand your frustration ...
Considering the described issue, my opinion is that heat losses are happening in the pipelines (since they are diverted to each location in house) .. and such heat losses are phenomenal and should not be ignored .. Solution is to do high grade thermal insulation to the pipelines which will help you to great extent
(Note - suggestion is based on description of problem)
Hope this helps :-)
@@TrekBookIndia This won't work specially during winters! You will end yup draining cold water on all rooftop systems (Solar/Electric) if there's no continuos usage of hot water.
Pipes can be fitted with foam rubber or fiberglass sleeves help keep a pipe closer to the temperature of the water inside the pipe, but it does not add heat to the pipe hence temperature will slowing down the cooling effect.
Finally every coin have 2 sides :-)
Godd sir👍👍👍👍
Thank you very much 😊🙏
I think pre feed tank is Recold Solar.
yes, that was old system of mine .. so thought of buying new big initially .. then decided to use it this way with ref to my Europe visit learnings
Thank You. Sir, 1. Your Suggestion Is A Good One - To Have A Feeder Tank. 2. Having Thermometer Connected May Not Be Needed, If You Install Newer Heating Coil As It Comes With Thermostat Which Switches Off Power To Coil Once Desired Temperature Is Reached. 3. One Suggestion Is To Replace The GI Pipe Connection That You Have (Sensor Is Attached) To Plastic As GI Pipe Causes Heat Loss.
Thank you very much for elaborate observation and suggestions 😊🙋
@@TrekBookIndia Yesterday, I have installed the Thermometer as you explained to know the water Temperature. This helps one to know the Temp of water in the tank approximately at any time without going to the level where Roof Top Solar Water Setup is installed. Thank you for sharing your idea.
@@jeevanb9527 you are most welcome 😊🙏
solar vs electric explain kara plzz...
कोणतं स्वस्त आहे
In short term, electric will be beneficial however in long term solar supersedes
Sir ji din ko dhoop theek rahta hai but morning ko wtr cool ho jaata hai koi upay batay.
इसके कई कारण हो sakte है
- पाणी mai जो mitti रहती है ऊस कारण सिस्टम में mud फॉर्म हो जाता है, तो ऊसे ड्रेन करणा जरुरी होता है... Jisase efficiency वापस बढती है
- pipeline जो गरम पाणी carry करती है wo insulated होणा जरुरी है
- ग्लास के उपर dust जमा हो जाती है, तो सोलर सिस्टम के ग्लास को क्लीन करणा जरुरी है
- सिस्टम का डायरेक्शन साऊथ facing होणा जरुरी है
- पेड का chav अगर आ रहा है तो चेक करे
😊🙋
Sir pressure cum aata hai, pani ka pressure kaise badega
Bathroom se solar installation apprximately kitne height pe hai?
agar wo kam hai to aapko pressure badhane ke liye pressure pump ka use karna padega
Mera solar water heater 3rd floor pr hai, par bathroom ground floor par main, pipe se phle 3 ltr paani thanda aata hai, yeh samsya kase hal keren, please
Aapko Pura pipeline thermal insulation lagana padega, to avoid heat loss
@@TrekBookIndia thermal insulation pipe kaha se milega ???
Sir mere yaha watar hot nahi ho raha or start kare thodi dair badh brekar off ho jata
Uske bajaye aapko thermostat wala heating element milta hai wo laga lo.auto cut off hoga
Thermostat है मेरे सोलर वॉटर सिस्टम के अंदर पर wo 80 डिग्री सेल्सिअस तापमान ko कट off करता है.. Itne हॉट वॉटर की जरूरत नहि पडती है, so अब mai temperature 60 degree aneke बाद हीटर element switch off करता hu
Hamre solar mai garam Pani hi ana band hogaya hai hum kay kare batayia
Step 1 - System drain karke देखे, generally it gets clogged due to mud formation
What matters is how much money u can invest for free hot water...
Yes, you are right.
You can calculate electricity consumption based on the heater coil rating and number of minutes or hours used.
Then multiply the kwh rating (units consumed) to per unit rate, which will give you monthly consumption only for water heating. This will give you an idea of how much you will save by using solar water heating and the payback period.
Hope this helps 😊🙏
Solar ka pani garam na hone ka karan kya hai
बहोत सारे कारण हो sakte है, जैसे की -
Type of solar system - tubular or plate type
Direction of panel fitment
Shadow of trees on panels
Loss of heat through pipeline (non insulated piping)
Dirt / mud in water
Hard water
Heating problems batao
No heating problems faced... Except in case आप सोलर tubes ko clean नाहि करते है तो इफेक्ट कम होता है... तो mai महिने mai एक बार cleaning करता hu