Pure talent, the car handling isn't soo bad, engine power is so damn low. Incredible how Alonso still fight with all his strenght in this difficult moment for him. We saw his aggressive drive to defend one point to Ocon and Hulkenberg at the final stages to the Gp. Hopefully he'll find a solution to a bright future
You're absolutely right, the brake ducts go up and down. In fact the whole hub assembly "bends" forward under front suspension compression. It's not the front wing moving.
Yup! You’re seeing the entire wheel hub assembly - to which the brake ducts are attached - flex about the axis of wheel rotation. This is a result of the torque generated by brake application. Amazing!
I kind of hated Alonso because for many years he was questioning M. Schumacher's dominance (succesfully) ,and I was and still am a huge fan of MC, but I got to say man: He is one of the greatest in F1 history. Very talented and capable. I might have to put my feelings aside and admit he is probably the best on the grid right now...
@@ciaronsmith4995 Terrible was the car after the mass damper went, see when you develop a machine around working with one particular part then are forced to removed that part the whole machine kinda loses balance no?
They would be in a better position if they did yes but they would struggle to beat the works mercedes team with a mercedes engine which was one of the reasons they switched to honda in the first place.
In my view, that is an anomaly. Renault doesn't have a competitive chassis department whereas Mercedes does so Mercedes can optimise their chassis perfectly to suit the engine whereas Mclaren don't have that advantage. Furthermore Mclaren are probably 4th best in the Aero department, quite far behind the top 3.
if i remember right the Honda engine was using a different style of turbine in the turbo. not sure if they still are. might be something to do with it. could also be the mgu that's on the turbo
Can you imagine if he got Rosberg's seat instead of Bottas!? Man i bet he really wanted that seat, what a waste of talent at the back of the grid...Such a shame.
Xavier André yes I seen that interview also where he says that he did speak to Mercedes and I can't for the life of me understand why he wouldn't have taken the seat.. Really baffling.
Alonso wasting his talent on bad cars is only himself to blame at. Ever since Ferrari (inclusive), he has shown to have not such good eyes to choose teams. In the end Alonso declined Mercedes´ offer simply because of his contract with McLaren, and Wolf knows it only well. Still, this issue on Fernando´s chances to sign for Mercedes is a more complex topic than it seems at first, because ever since Rosberg´s retirement, has Wolf been flirting with Alonso to get his seat, and in fact Botta´s contract is for one year only (as far as I know, and while I´m not wrong) because Totto is still thinking of Alonso. And as I see it, it´s rather rude to take "a random driver" like Bottas as "stuffing" while waiting for the driver that Wolf really wants. Speaking of Wolf, he made some statements that I find contradictory: first he admitted contacts with Fernando to try and get him; then he (Wolf) criticized him saying that Alonso was not as a good choice as Wehrlein because Alonso left some scars in the team (probably referring to the spy case of McLaren-Mercedes to Ferrari in 2007). But still, Wolf seems interested on Alonso. On his part, should keep loyal to his team and contract and don´t even bother to contact Mercedes (no matter how deplorable the Honda engine has always been). It was his own decision to join this project, so better if he kept constant with his decisions; even more if we remember one of his key-statements (back in the 2015 pre-season): "I don´t know if it´ll take me 3 or 5 years, but to become champion again, it has to be in McLaren-Honda". Well, his 3-year coupon is under great threat, and in most likelihood will end up in nothing; just as his 2010 pre-season promise ("in most likelihood will my F1 career end up in Ferrari"). And unless Honda makes such a surprise improvement in 2019 (the way they did in the Australian GP- I expected both McLaren cars retiring on the first laps), Fernando´s coupon for the 5 year period is under threat as well. If Fernando is still in McLaren in 2019, which takes me to the next and last point. Some Alonso-fans dare to say now that Fenando should change team and move to Mercedes, Red Bull or Williams. Again!??? Yet another team-change?? Hasn´t he had enough with playing "snakes and ladders" with teams over the last 10 years? I´d really enjoy it if Fernando moved to Mercedes and the team sunk the way McLaren did for whatever problem you want (bad engine again, bad car design or whatever) and then fans (and even the press and mass media) kept on saying that Fernando should change team again... It´d be funny for real. But in general, I don´t care the least what does Fernando do from now on. He has already made a fool of himself, and instead of retiring after leaving Ferrari, he´s come to the average age of retirement of F1 champions (35-40 years) while increasing his personal record as the F1 champion racing for the most years after his last world title; a record to feel more shame than nostalgia for, I think. He still has the chance to increase his record a bit, but I seriously doubt that any other driver is interested on beating it. Again, Fernando knows only well how to waste his time in vain picking the wrong team at the wrong moment...
Marek Snopek Alonzo had a seat next to Hamilton in Hamilton's rookie season, Hamilton nearly , just barely missed the title in his rookie year sitting next to Alonzo that that argument holds no weight.
this car (not the engine) was the best mclaren has build since 2012. Just look at the speed the car takes at the corners, and how much traction it has.
Yep. I like this thing a lot. Unique car in 2017. Actually was the "smallest and narrowest" that met the minimum requirements for the technical regulations.
Theoretically this engine should be competitive but Honda keeps using some experimental fuel injection bullshit that in my uneducated opinion was supposed to improve on the previous engine. Instead its shaking the engine apart. Honda should just just concentrate on improving their now conventional turbine design as well as the MGU-h. Thats how you boost power and efficiency on the straights.
+Enzo YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!! The 2017 chassis was brilliant because they were very competitive in Monaco and Singapore, even more so than the other midfielders in Malaysia and Hungary. Vandoorne scored a 7th place and Alonso a 6th place. Only the 2018 chassis sucked. DUMBASS!!! Also, the competition improved more!!! Don't compare these years! Their Renault engine helped them even, because Toro Rosso failed even harder with that crappy Honda engine and McLaren still got a nice 6th place, same as in 2016. RedBull will fail too, just watch.
he is forced to do so many corrections after hiting the curbs beacuse his steering wheel just go crazy, on the Mercedes it bearly moves. this car needs more than just a good engine.
It actually looks quite slow in the turns compared to the Mercedes. Maybe it lacks downforce, or maybe it has to run low downforce compared to the Merc because of a lack of power.. idk, when you look at the situation from a financial standpoint it's hard to see how they're gonna be able to part ways with honda
+Lewgenious17 McLaren can improve, i'm sure they'll be competitive again, Renault will improve their power unit which also will help McLaren, Alonso is gone so the team will go forwards, and Sainz is brilliant. Now RedBull has that shitty Honda engine and will be overtaken by Renault as well as Haas. Because Toro Rosso dropped from 6th to 9th last season. Ferrari however will make the best power unit ever and finally beat Mercedes. Williams will beat Toro Rosso for 9th place, Force India might get close to RedBull.
Alonso is the only machine we see here...
Alonso is a wizard.
that is a well known fact since ferarri days
Leo de la muerte Indeed. He put that fucking backmarker car on 13th.
since reanault days
it was best car in 2006 tho
Pure talent, the car handling isn't soo bad, engine power is so damn low. Incredible how Alonso still fight with all his strenght in this difficult moment for him. We saw his aggressive drive to defend one point to Ocon and Hulkenberg at the final stages to the Gp. Hopefully he'll find a solution to a bright future
good news - he is, now. the Aston he's driving is the 2nd best car on the field and he's got the podium in both of the first 2 races of 2023
@@maximiliannguyen1162bad news - it is 2024 and the Aston Martin is the 7th best car according to Alonso
good news - Adrian Newey will fix it soon
Perfection at its finest...
The driver, not the car. Definitely not the car.
yeas, that showcases when a formula one driver drives to the limit...
Without DRS he cant get to 8th gear... hopefully Honda can improve over the season.
Look at the brake cooling ducts going up and down during the lap!
front wing going up and down..
HaloReachTutorials1 looks like as the brakes grab the disk the whole hub is turning
You're absolutely right, the brake ducts go up and down. In fact the whole hub assembly "bends" forward under front suspension compression. It's not the front wing moving.
Yup! You’re seeing the entire wheel hub assembly - to which the brake ducts are attached - flex about the axis of wheel rotation. This is a result of the torque generated by brake application. Amazing!
I kind of hated Alonso because for many years he was questioning M. Schumacher's dominance (succesfully) ,and I was and still am a huge fan of MC, but I got to say man: He is one of the greatest in F1 history. Very talented and capable. I might have to put my feelings aside and admit he is probably the best on the grid right now...
He did that one year, and was terrible was the mass damper was banned. Kimi had more 1 v 1 battles with MSC if you count the races.
@Upek LIYANAPATHIRANA Suzuka 2006 was a fluke.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Hungary 2006? Monza 2006m
@@ciaronsmith4995 Terrible was the car after the mass damper went, see when you develop a machine around working with one particular part then are forced to removed that part the whole machine kinda loses balance no?
is a pole position lap but thanks to Honda is only 13th
They need to switch back to Mercedes Benz power units
They would be in a better position if they did yes but they would struggle to beat the works mercedes team with a mercedes engine which was one of the reasons they switched to honda in the first place.
Scuderia2607 yeah but Red Bull is beating the works Renault team with their engines...
In my view, that is an anomaly. Renault doesn't have a competitive chassis department whereas Mercedes does so Mercedes can optimise their chassis perfectly to suit the engine whereas Mclaren don't have that advantage. Furthermore Mclaren are probably 4th best in the Aero department, quite far behind the top 3.
yeah, their engine department needs improvement definitely.
..last corner, what a save :DD
That super ultra high pitched noise just hurts my ears... anyone else hearing it?
turbo whistle
peter hill yeah but it sounds like a Formula E car.. the other f1 cars dont have so much turbo sounds
if i remember right the Honda engine was using a different style of turbine in the turbo. not sure if they still are. might be something to do with it. could also be the mgu that's on the turbo
peter hill that's actually the reason why, the mgu and turbine are different
You should listen to the Renault...
still racin at 110% with a car thats barely enough for Q2, tough years for Fernando, but ty the awesome memories
great job. Really good job. Keep continue upload this excellent Hd videos. I love so much Fernando. 😇❤
i cant believe the way he drives, its a wizard without stick.
What a car. Would be so competitive in Belgium last year
Perfect lap with gp2 engine
This car is the 2011 Virgin Marussia XD
Why would they allow a GP2 car to race in F1....
Give that man mercedes! Truly art driving.
Perfect lap
I so wish Alonso would've gotten that vacant Mercedes seat...
you can really hear the turbo in this car compared to other cars
from onboard the car looks pretty cool
Can you imagine if he got Rosberg's seat instead of Bottas!? Man i bet he really wanted that seat, what a waste of talent at the back of the grid...Such a shame.
he was offered the seat, but he didnt take it. He said it on interview.... I'm still wondering why
Xavier André yes I seen that interview also where he says that he did speak to Mercedes and I can't for the life of me understand why he wouldn't have taken the seat.. Really baffling.
Alonso wasting his talent on bad cars is only himself to blame at. Ever since Ferrari (inclusive), he has shown to have not such good eyes to choose teams.
In the end Alonso declined Mercedes´ offer simply because of his contract with McLaren, and Wolf knows it only well.
Still, this issue on Fernando´s chances to sign for Mercedes is a more complex topic than it seems at first, because ever since Rosberg´s retirement, has Wolf been flirting with Alonso to get his seat, and in fact Botta´s contract is for one year only (as far as I know, and while I´m not wrong) because Totto is still thinking of Alonso. And as I see it, it´s rather rude to take "a random driver" like Bottas as "stuffing" while waiting for the driver that Wolf really wants.
Speaking of Wolf, he made some statements that I find contradictory: first he admitted contacts with Fernando to try and get him; then he (Wolf) criticized him saying that Alonso was not as a good choice as Wehrlein because Alonso left some scars in the team (probably referring to the spy case of McLaren-Mercedes to Ferrari in 2007). But still, Wolf seems interested on Alonso.
On his part, should keep loyal to his team and contract and don´t even bother to contact Mercedes (no matter how deplorable the Honda engine has always been). It was his own decision to join this project, so better if he kept constant with his decisions; even more if we remember one of his key-statements (back in the 2015 pre-season): "I don´t know if it´ll take me 3 or 5 years, but to become champion again, it has to be in McLaren-Honda".
Well, his 3-year coupon is under great threat, and in most likelihood will end up in nothing; just as his 2010 pre-season promise ("in most likelihood will my F1 career end up in Ferrari"). And unless Honda makes such a surprise improvement in 2019 (the way they did in the Australian GP- I expected both McLaren cars retiring on the first laps), Fernando´s coupon for the 5 year period is under threat as well. If Fernando is still in McLaren in 2019, which takes me to the next and last point.
Some Alonso-fans dare to say now that Fenando should change team and move to Mercedes, Red Bull or Williams. Again!??? Yet another team-change?? Hasn´t he had enough with playing "snakes and ladders" with teams over the last 10 years?
I´d really enjoy it if Fernando moved to Mercedes and the team sunk the way McLaren did for whatever problem you want (bad engine again, bad car design or whatever) and then fans (and even the press and mass media) kept on saying that Fernando should change team again... It´d be funny for real.
But in general, I don´t care the least what does Fernando do from now on. He has already made a fool of himself, and instead of retiring after leaving Ferrari, he´s come to the average age of retirement of F1 champions (35-40 years) while increasing his personal record as the F1 champion racing for the most years after his last world title; a record to feel more shame than nostalgia for, I think. He still has the chance to increase his record a bit, but I seriously doubt that any other driver is interested on beating it. Again, Fernando knows only well how to waste his time in vain picking the wrong team at the wrong moment...
I don't think that Hamilton would approve, guys...He definitely had his say.
Marek Snopek Alonzo had a seat next to Hamilton in Hamilton's rookie season, Hamilton nearly , just barely missed the title in his rookie year sitting next to Alonzo that that argument holds no weight.
damn nando, just damn.
this car (not the engine) was the best mclaren has build since 2012.
Just look at the speed the car takes at the corners, and how much traction it has.
Yep.
I like this thing a lot. Unique car in 2017. Actually was the "smallest and narrowest" that met the minimum requirements for the technical regulations.
Alonso is the best
Breathtaking
I miss him.
Me too
I can just imagine Jeff saying loss of power pull to one side lol
With a good engine this car was a championship contender.
Theoretically this engine should be competitive but Honda keeps using some experimental fuel injection bullshit that in my uneducated opinion was supposed to improve on the previous engine. Instead its shaking the engine apart. Honda should just just concentrate on improving their now conventional turbine design as well as the MGU-h. Thats how you boost power and efficiency on the straights.
GP2
That correction at the end
he had a better car when he was in minardi
Very good upload : D
Good driving
Where is the Driving Line?
n they have the potential.but the engine department iz holdin em back
the fact he hasnt left McLaren yet is incredible
i have the reason: MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY
Not enough power for 8gear,what a disappointment for this good chassis
Every chassis is good as long as it coasts 20 kph slower than the others. We could see its potential only with a decent engine.
Now you know the chassis was and is shit too. Even with the Renault engine they can't compete.
+Enzo YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!! The 2017 chassis was brilliant because they were very competitive in Monaco and Singapore, even more so than the other midfielders in Malaysia and Hungary. Vandoorne scored a 7th place and Alonso a 6th place.
Only the 2018 chassis sucked. DUMBASS!!! Also, the competition improved more!!! Don't compare these years! Their Renault engine helped them even, because Toro Rosso failed even harder with that crappy Honda engine and McLaren still got a nice 6th place, same as in 2016. RedBull will fail too, just watch.
@@Firemarioflower this didn't age well
he is forced to do so many corrections after hiting the curbs beacuse his steering wheel just go crazy, on the Mercedes it bearly moves. this car needs more than just a good engine.
That mclaren understeered a lot, so you can see how Alonso turns his steering wheel so agressively as you've said to compensate it.
Wtf Is That Noise I like the V6 Sound but McLaren Omg
He's definitely living up to his claims of being the best driver on the grid.
piloto excepcional num lixo de carro.
No dejo de ver vídeos de hace 15 o 20 años de fórmula 1 de verdad. esta basura es una broma.
Fernando Alonso is 13th
wtf is that upshift noise, I honestly like it though
Carlos Barton
Turbo mate.
vibrations of the geabox
it is a perfect round but the engine....
It actually looks quite slow in the turns compared to the Mercedes. Maybe it lacks downforce, or maybe it has to run low downforce compared to the Merc because of a lack of power.. idk, when you look at the situation from a financial standpoint it's hard to see how they're gonna be able to part ways with honda
Casey Colgan The red bull duo lacked downforce, the Mclaren has an excellent chassis, let down by an insufficient Honda engine...
he has to do a lot of corrections to do too
@@jesseyoannidis1274 How excellent is the chassis now? It's still shit. And it was in 2017 too.
every corner spor on
Um dos melhores pilotos de F1 com um carro medíocre desses, esse motor Honda consegue ser pior que os motores de 2 anos
Speck3 looks good
alonso is the best pilot of f1 ever after ayrton senna
It sounds like a Vespa!!!
Imagine the embarrassment for Honda if Mclaren decide to dump them and go back to the Mercedes Power unit and they become competitive again
Lewgenious17 Williams and Force India have the Mercedes PU. And it is crap
@@SuperSilver301 It won both World Championships the last 5 years 😂😂
Lewgenious17 mercedes will not supply their engines
@@SuperSilver301 I'm aware, I made that original comment in early 2017
+Lewgenious17 McLaren can improve, i'm sure they'll be competitive again, Renault will improve their power unit which also will help McLaren, Alonso is gone so the team will go forwards, and Sainz is brilliant. Now RedBull has that shitty Honda engine and will be overtaken by Renault as well as Haas.
Because Toro Rosso dropped from 6th to 9th last season.
Ferrari however will make the best power unit ever and finally beat Mercedes. Williams will beat Toro Rosso for 9th place, Force India might get close to RedBull.
_GP2 Engine!!! GP2!!!! AAARGHHH_
Alonso Again Renault 2021
GP2 engine! GP2! Argh!
Lap is perfect except for 1:10 corner
Still faster than latifu
Fuck he didn't even got 8°gear on turn 11th
Dude is no joke, to bad his car sucks.
pero tío que el motor suena a sida +ElReyGuiri
Spanish samurai
This is a very good lap but I have to say that Hamilton and Vettel are in an other level in terms of qualyfing laps
que decepção
honda fuck
I thought it was a cool down lap lol Honda
man vandoorne will have hard time to show something off for himself dog of a car plus alongside FA pretty sad for youngman
As the lap went on I was thinking the exact same thing; this guy is pushing the car past its abilities, as always.
BEST DRIVER IN a shit car..
With a lap like that he would even put a Toro Rosso on pole...Alonso is a magican with the worst car on the grid.
Vaya lavadora, no me jodas...