Thanks as always for your informative and amusing commentary. I've flown Thai business medium haul twice in the past two years, once in a plane like yours (772) to Dhaka, and once a couple of months ago on an A359 to Lahore. I thought the service was great both times, and the food good, and the drink OK. But the A359 hard product was so much better. The experience at Suvarnabhumi was also good, apart from having a bit of trouble finding the business check-in; but from there it was very fast straight through security to the rather nice lounge. Thai are obviously not on a par with the real industry leaders, but they're still pretty good. I'm looking forward to your videos about the rest of the trip.
As an ex-TG employee myself, I've never seen an aircraft as worn down and dirty as that.... There really isn't an excuse. These were meant to be retired due to COVID, but due to higher demand they were brought back. When our A321neos come (sometime next year) these old birds will finally get some rest. I'm really sorry you had a poor experience, hopefully you can have a better experience next time!
hank you so much for your comment - I am sure it's valuable for a few fellow viewers. :-) I have been flying Thai Airways regularly for over 30 years now, and I hope the airline will come back to where it used to be around 2000: a world-leading airline.
Such a nice flight review, this Thai airways 777-200 reminds me the beautiful and nostalgic thai airways planes that are sadly retired due to obsolescence and economic rationale. Would love to have many more such flight reviews ❤😊
The 777-200er is the worst plane in the Thai fleet. It was already retired in 2020 during the pandemic but because of shortage of modern plane it had to be brought back into service, that’s why it was not refurbished. The ceo recently announced that 2 of the 5 777-200ers are going to be retired next year and hopefully the rest will retire soon as new planes arrives.
Thank you for giving this information. It is by far the worst plane. How've, they do use it on long routes, too - without reducing the price. Therefore I think it's my duty to tell my viewers about it, so they can plan better. I hippie that Thai Airways will get to the great shape that they had in the 1990s
I am currently in Bali. To get here, I flew on a Boeing 777-300 ANA “The Room” for 13 hours from JFK to Haneda. Then I flew on a ANA Boeing 787 Business Class to Jakarta. Then a Garuda 737-800 from Jakarta to Denpasar. The room business class was fantastic. I was very comfortable for the entire duration of the trip. I will also be very comfortable when I return home. The Boeing 787 had a 2X2 layout and I hated it. Even though I had both seats to myself, the seats were so narrow. It says if they were designed against large people with big arms. Very difficult for me to get comfortable. The Garuda was the worst of all. Not only was it a small jet, but the business class was only 2 x 2 and the chairs were visibly dirty and old. It’s exactly what you’d expect from a smaller airline using older planes. No LCD display, no inflate entertainment. That is passable simply because the flight is less than two hours, but it didn’t feel like “business class”. It felt like a “premium economy”. Flying nowadays, tends to be terrible unless you fly an upgraded class so that you get adequate leg space, shoulder room, and aren’t right on top of the next person. I definitely prefer the Airbus A380 and A350 1x2x1 configuration.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I totally agree! However, while the A380 is undoubtedly the best plane of all, there's some airlines where this aircraft doesn't offer the best flight experience in business class, e.g. British Airways or Qatar Airways
Let me start by explaining that Thai airways 777-200 is actually very old so things on the plane are old to. But to compare the other aircraft's such as A350 or B787 have more new stuff ❤
I know, and I think I said that in my review. There's also pretty comprehensive reviews of the Thai A350 and B787 on my channel - however, even in the A350 Business Class I recall that the carpet looked really too much used. I just didn't wanna mention it back then.... However, this plane wasn't that old. Other airlines fly planes that are two or even three times as old and still look great inside....
As a Thai citizen, I agree that some of those planes are old and outdated because they are unrefurbished. So sorry for you to get those experiences. You should try out new planes.😊
Actually I have tried the new ones. There's 3 more review on Thai Airways on the channel - including the new A350. I just try to cover all flight experiences for my audience to make better choices
No wonder the plane looks run down, the plane is the oldest on in the fleet 17.8years to be exact and 17years isn't really considered too old and yes the plane needs a new paintjob because it was standing in the sun for soo long and the seats are the older ones. the plane registration is HS-TJR or Nakhon Sawan.
@@deutschieboibuddyjr3175I hope they are but don’t know when. I have seen articles that Thai Airways wants to retrofit their Boeing 777-200er in 2018 but unfortunately that didn’t happen at all. But it badly needs to be retrofitted with all new seats and carpet to freshen up. Also the Boeing 777-200er will also have premium economy not just only business and economy class.
Thai Airways Boeing 777-200er is still in good condition but needs to be retrofitted with new seats and carpet to freshen up the plane and the experience for the passenger. I saw an article on the internet saying that Thai Airways Boeing 777-200er will be retrofitted and will also include premium economy but unfortunately that retrofitting never happen which was disappointing and the plane still got it’s live left in them. This interior was new back when the plane was delivered but they are very old now. I hope they retrofit very soon or a few years before the plane can retire. The best plane for Thai Airways is the Boeing 787-8 or 787-9 ,A350-900 ,A380 since it’s a bit dated but still good ,Boeing 747-400 with the newer style seats and the Boeing 777-300er.
@volgrenfanbus1294 Thank you for your dedicated comment! That's so great that I have this fantastic, positive audience community! I agree this plane still isn't so old, it only needs a new interior. I've made reviews of the modern Thai A350 here on the channel. Also, on my originally bilingual, now all German channel @TravelSingFly you'll find a nice review of the good old days with the B747, sitting in the house of the plane (however with the old interior). Too bad that they will never fly the A380 and B747 again.....
True. By the way, I got nominated as "Best RUclips Creator" in the area of aviation & travel by the German Traveller Awards. It's based on viewer votes and I've been nominated between some of the biggest RUclipsrs out there. If you like my content a lot, please how for TravelSingFly! This is the voting link: de.surveymonkey.com/r/gtawards2024 Thank you so much and enjoy all my content here in the channel! Chris
Great report, Chris!! Often when the aircraft is so run down cosmetically, you really have to wonder about overall maintenance of the company. Is safety being compromised at all?? 😧 Or do I just worry too much. Safe travels, sir!!
I fly BKK - Phuket - BKK with Thai few months ago. I felt lucky that on the first flight we got A350, however, on the return flight we got this super old and outdate 777-200. 🙄it how we see two biggggg different in their fleet.😅 And few days ago I got on the flight from Hong Kong to BKK also operated with this 777-200. After the flight I recieved "Thank you" email and the survey link, I provided some feedback to them. I think Thai Airways better get rid of all of their 777-200 already, after all pandemic and bankrubt recovering and stuff, they bring back few 777-200. its like the black-sheap in their fleet.
The only one remains in service is the Boeing 777-200er and 777-300er all the Boeing 777-200 and 777-300 are retired during the pandemic along with the Boeing 747-400.
Thank you for your report! Since the incident with the deadhead pilots in 2018, I have been boycotting Thai Airways. Long haul, Thai Airways is too expensive with only mediocre service. The only advantage is that they are the only carrier offering non-stop BRU-BKK flights from my country of residence, but that doesn't outweigh all the disadvantages. For domestic flights in Thailand, Bangkok Airways stands head and shoulders above the rest.
There is nothing standing out for TG anymore. It is a mediocre airlines with average hard and soft products. Only stuck in the past and leech on the image of national airlines of Thailand. No more outstanding services and proudly represent cultures, falling behind in every ways and still cannot find its way out. Every airlines are international public companies abide by international standards and laws so when you compare, it should be compare to other quality airlines that do well not just boasting itself of the meager profit that come and go.
That's part of this very experience. Good and not great things at all. I hate having only everything great or all bad reviews. Because that's not what most experienced really are....
Thanks as always for your informative and amusing commentary. I've flown Thai business medium haul twice in the past two years, once in a plane like yours (772) to Dhaka, and once a couple of months ago on an A359 to Lahore. I thought the service was great both times, and the food good, and the drink OK. But the A359 hard product was so much better. The experience at Suvarnabhumi was also good, apart from having a bit of trouble finding the business check-in; but from there it was very fast straight through security to the rather nice lounge. Thai are obviously not on a par with the real industry leaders, but they're still pretty good. I'm looking forward to your videos about the rest of the trip.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! I love my audience! 😊🙏🏻
As an ex-TG employee myself, I've never seen an aircraft as worn down and dirty as that.... There really isn't an excuse. These were meant to be retired due to COVID, but due to higher demand they were brought back.
When our A321neos come (sometime next year) these old birds will finally get some rest.
I'm really sorry you had a poor experience, hopefully you can have a better experience next time!
hank you so much for your comment - I am sure it's valuable for a few fellow viewers. :-)
I have been flying Thai Airways regularly for over 30 years now, and I hope the airline will come back to where it used to be around 2000: a world-leading airline.
Such a great video, looking forward to all your other trips around Asia!
Thank you so much dear Tracey. There's a lot of reports coming up from Asia over the next weeks and months
Great video Chris ! Yes that carpet really does need changing.
Thank you, Chris, another very true report.
This aircraft makes your voyage back to the '80😅.
Such a nice flight review, this Thai airways 777-200 reminds me the beautiful and nostalgic thai airways planes that are sadly retired due to obsolescence and economic rationale. Would love to have many more such flight reviews ❤😊
777-200er are not retired until it reaches it’s age. But the normal 777-200 already reached it’s age so it’s already retired.
The 777-200er is the worst plane in the Thai fleet. It was already retired in 2020 during the pandemic but because of shortage of modern plane it had to be brought back into service, that’s why it was not refurbished. The ceo recently announced that 2 of the 5 777-200ers are going to be retired next year and hopefully the rest will retire soon as new planes arrives.
Thank you for giving this information. It is by far the worst plane. How've, they do use it on long routes, too - without reducing the price. Therefore I think it's my duty to tell my viewers about it, so they can plan better.
I hippie that Thai Airways will get to the great shape that they had in the 1990s
I am currently in Bali.
To get here, I flew on a Boeing 777-300 ANA “The Room” for 13 hours from JFK to Haneda.
Then I flew on a ANA Boeing 787 Business Class to Jakarta.
Then a Garuda 737-800 from Jakarta to Denpasar.
The room business class was fantastic. I was very comfortable for the entire duration of the trip. I will also be very comfortable when I return home.
The Boeing 787 had a 2X2 layout and I hated it. Even though I had both seats to myself, the seats were so narrow. It says if they were designed against large people with big arms. Very difficult for me to get comfortable.
The Garuda was the worst of all. Not only was it a small jet, but the business class was only 2 x 2 and the chairs were visibly dirty and old. It’s exactly what you’d expect from a smaller airline using older planes.
No LCD display, no inflate entertainment. That is passable simply because the flight is less than two hours, but it didn’t feel like “business class”. It felt like a “premium economy”.
Flying nowadays, tends to be terrible unless you fly an upgraded class so that you get adequate leg space, shoulder room, and aren’t right on top of the next person.
I definitely prefer the Airbus A380 and A350 1x2x1 configuration.
I flew Garuda from Jakarta to Denpasar a week ago on their 737 and they do have LCD. The LCD is tucked inside the armrest.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I totally agree!
However, while the A380 is undoubtedly the best plane of all, there's some airlines where this aircraft doesn't offer the best flight experience in business class, e.g. British Airways or Qatar Airways
Let me start by explaining that Thai airways 777-200 is actually very old so things on the plane are old to. But to compare the other aircraft's such as A350 or B787 have more new stuff ❤
I know, and I think I said that in my review. There's also pretty comprehensive reviews of the Thai A350 and B787 on my channel - however, even in the A350 Business Class I recall that the carpet looked really too much used. I just didn't wanna mention it back then....
However, this plane wasn't that old. Other airlines fly planes that are two or even three times as old and still look great inside....
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition Thanks for that info
As a Thai citizen, I agree that some of those planes are old and outdated because they are unrefurbished. So sorry for you to get those experiences. You should try out new planes.😊
Actually I have tried the new ones. There's 3 more review on Thai Airways on the channel - including the new A350.
I just try to cover all flight experiences for my audience to make better choices
No wonder the plane looks run down, the plane is the oldest on in the fleet 17.8years to be exact and 17years isn't really considered too old and yes the plane needs a new paintjob because it was standing in the sun for soo long and the seats are the older ones. the plane registration is HS-TJR or Nakhon Sawan.
i think those are getting retro fitted soon (and i am also German so hallo!)
Thank you so much for adding this! 😊🙏🏻
@@deutschieboibuddyjr3175I hope they are but don’t know when. I have seen articles that Thai Airways wants to retrofit their Boeing 777-200er in 2018 but unfortunately that didn’t happen at all. But it badly needs to be retrofitted with all new seats and carpet to freshen up. Also the Boeing 777-200er will also have premium economy not just only business and economy class.
Thai Airways Boeing 777-200er is still in good condition but needs to be retrofitted with new seats and carpet to freshen up the plane and the experience for the passenger. I saw an article on the internet saying that Thai Airways Boeing 777-200er will be retrofitted and will also include premium economy but unfortunately that retrofitting never happen which was disappointing and the plane still got it’s live left in them. This interior was new back when the plane was delivered but they are very old now. I hope they retrofit very soon or a few years before the plane can retire. The best plane for Thai Airways is the Boeing 787-8 or 787-9 ,A350-900 ,A380 since it’s a bit dated but still good ,Boeing 747-400 with the newer style seats and the Boeing 777-300er.
@volgrenfanbus1294 Thank you for your dedicated comment! That's so great that I have this fantastic, positive audience community!
I agree this plane still isn't so old, it only needs a new interior. I've made reviews of the modern Thai A350 here on the channel. Also, on my originally bilingual, now all German channel @TravelSingFly you'll find a nice review of the good old days with the B747, sitting in the house of the plane (however with the old interior). Too bad that they will never fly the A380 and B747 again.....
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition sadly the 747-400 is retired because it’s already up to it’s age but it was good with the newer interior ones.
True.
By the way, I got nominated as "Best RUclips Creator" in the area of aviation & travel by the German Traveller Awards.
It's based on viewer votes and I've been nominated between some of the biggest RUclipsrs out there.
If you like my content a lot, please how for TravelSingFly! This is the voting link:
de.surveymonkey.com/r/gtawards2024
Thank you so much and enjoy all my content here in the channel!
Chris
Great report, Chris!!
Often when the aircraft is so run down cosmetically, you really have to wonder about overall maintenance of the company. Is safety being compromised at all?? 😧 Or do I just worry too much.
Safe travels, sir!!
At least it's a big mistake to save on all those ends - because the passenger should never wonder if the whole aircraft might not be in good shape
You should fly their domestic flights, straight up ghetto in a 3/3/3 config with the most basic interior you can get.
But that's what the video is about. You wrote the comment without watching....? 😅
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition of course not.
I fly BKK - Phuket - BKK with Thai few months ago. I felt lucky that on the first flight we got A350, however, on the return flight we got this super old and outdate 777-200. 🙄it how we see two biggggg different in their fleet.😅
And few days ago I got on the flight from Hong Kong to BKK also operated with this 777-200. After the flight I recieved "Thank you" email and the survey link, I provided some feedback to them.
I think Thai Airways better get rid of all of their 777-200 already, after all pandemic and bankrubt recovering and stuff, they bring back few 777-200. its like the black-sheap in their fleet.
Totally agree
The only one remains in service is the Boeing 777-200er and 777-300er all the Boeing 777-200 and 777-300 are retired during the pandemic along with the Boeing 747-400.
The plane is actually a Boeing 777-200ER
Yes, as it says in the title
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition It's an ER not standard -200.
@@CryptoChrisCard of course it is 😊
Where's the food review?
I know...... 😂 Next time
Thank you for your report! Since the incident with the deadhead pilots in 2018, I have been boycotting Thai Airways. Long haul, Thai Airways is too expensive with only mediocre service. The only advantage is that they are the only carrier offering non-stop BRU-BKK flights from my country of residence, but that doesn't outweigh all the disadvantages. For domestic flights in Thailand, Bangkok Airways stands head and shoulders above the rest.
I truly agree with all of this
Est-ce que tu à fait le A380 de thaï Airways ?
Non. Et Thai a déja vendus leur A380s
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition ok merci mon prochain voyage sera avec fly émirats a380 encore merci
There is nothing standing out for TG anymore. It is a mediocre airlines with average hard and soft products. Only stuck in the past and leech on the image of national airlines of Thailand.
No more outstanding services and proudly represent cultures, falling behind in every ways and still cannot find its way out. Every airlines are international public companies abide by international standards and laws so when you compare, it should be compare to other quality airlines that do well not just boasting itself of the meager profit that come and go.
You put very well into words how it is....
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition I forgot to thank you for your video. It was a really great flight review.
Don’t be rude
Please tell me the moment when I'm rude in this video! I think I'm very polite and objective in all my reviews
Don’t travel with them simple
I don't travel for my own maximum comfort but to give realistic, critical but fair flight reviews.
You’re all over the place. Trying to understand what you were trying to say
That's part of this very experience. Good and not great things at all. I hate having only everything great or all bad reviews. Because that's not what most experienced really are....