The F4 was a brick with big enough engines, the mig 21 an engine with wings, the 4th gens were all about fitting as much lift surface onto an aircraft as possible.
So whats the point of a fuel tank then if it doesn't change the actual amount of fuel you can use? If it only changes the distribution of fuel between the internal and external tanks, then what difference does it make? 15m of fuel internal and 5m fuel external is the same as 20m internal... Is there something I am missing here?
I mean, there is a good reason why the MiG-29 outperforms the F-16A. The MiG-29 enter service in 1982, and its HMD helmet arrived in 1985. The F-16A was already around 7 years old by that point. In fact, by giving the MiG 29 the HMD, the actual counter to the MiG-29 were the first F-16Cs (Block 25 in 1984) with improved radar that allows all-weather BVR capability for their AIM-7M.
Ehh, the mig 29 in game is outperformed by the f16, especially in the winrates. Ive bodied mig 29s in my f16 and only have been killed by a mig 29 once. Phly is just a good player.
@@lol-uq2oi you ever ate r-27t being locked from the front aspect 5km away while being resistant to flares and your f16 cant turn since it's a fking brick?
Reheat or afterburner is a more complete combustion; it combusts some of the normal exhaust products, so it ends up being a cleaner burn. JP-1, effectively kerosene, is hard to burn cleanly. Technology Connections video on Hurricane Lamps goes into this with great detail.
So now we don't know what we have. The plane is something inbetween a Mig-29S (9.13) and Mig-29A (9.12) hence on the statcard it just says Mig-29 because they couldn't be decisive enough to add either or. Though in places (can't quite remember where) the 9.13 shows up, and that must be only due to the fact the aircraft got that small hunch indicative of a Mig-29S (but it's really not one since in addition to missing the R-73 it's also missing the R-77). What they should have done in order to avoid confusion is just to model the Mig-29A (9.12) and let the R-73 stay ... yes the aircraft is going to have less range but it would have been truthfull / factually correct, and i think players / fans would have appreciated it way more than some halfbaked compromise (some made up Mig-29).
This^ you worded it nicely! Besides the "hunch" or extended spine was for the added electronics so the aircraft can use R-77...that's not even where the extra fuel is, that was the "fatback" version which came later which got a much enlarged "hunch" or spine. Plus in - game Mig-29 gets a fueltank anyway which extents its range. Overall i feel like Gaijin bungled the Mig-29.
MiG29 (9.13) is not MiG-29S (9.13S). 9.13 is 1986 modification with additional fuel tank and l203 gardenia jamming station installed in its enlarged back. MiG-29S (9.13S and few 9.12S without gardenia jamming station - no hunch back no place for it) is newer and much bigger modernisation (produced from 1991) featuring new radar, armament system and computer thus it could fire r-77
@@lancealburque8729 now that makes much more sense. Also for anyone who wants to try a similar chalange - get a kill with the 10 kg bombs on the HE - 51c
Maybe when it first released and nobody had flares. But currently. My missile lock prefers the ground than enemies. And you only need 2 flares to get the away
@@toxicmist8075 ive been hit frontally by r-27t so many times while flaring/engine off and maneuvering away. it's the most difficult missile to flare only second to ty-90.
I'd say the f-16 still Dominates, since they needed the r-27s and removed r-73s it doesn't compete with the aim9 Ls and aim 7ms the f-16 can use. The mig29s r-60s are easyaf to flare and as someone with both of the aircraft I can tell you that these missles make a big difference.
Is no one gonna commet on the absolute beauty of a glide back to base with no fuel being almost nearly perfect? I honestly didnt think he was making it
You know the MiG-29 will eventually be put in the German tech tree because of its service with the East German air force and the Luftwaffe after Germany reunified.
The problem with War Thunder jets is, it doesn't reflect how bad Russian radar and missile lock-range is versus the better US, and Allied stuff (Map Size). The Aim-120 is also not equipped to the latest and greatest NATO stuff. They need to be very careful how they nerf the Mig-29 because when the f-15 turns up it may be worse balance wise.
The N019 was a very decent radar for its time, easily comparable in most regards to AN/APG-66 and 65 in the early F-16 and F-18. So was the R-27R compared to the AIM-7F and 7M, though admitidelly, being able to carry just two was quite limiting. AMRAAM's are post cold war missiles, so are HMD's in USAF planes. The game clearly isn't ready for their addition anyways, just look at how AIM-54's are implemented. I doubt the F-15 we are likely to get soon (F-15A w MLU and early F-15J) would be a much bigger deal than the F-14A balance wise.
IDK i feel like they need to give it back R-73's. F-14 is still dominating in top tier match and MIG-29 without R-73 just feels like MIG-23 MLD with better looking skin. Why would F-14 get a AIM-54 right away and MIG-29 can't get a R-73 ?
@@_geck a classic, "you think x so you must be y" response. If you're gonna insult someone on the internet, at least be original, people might actually find you funny
Btw Phly, a really useful tip, if your missile has the wrong thing locked you can press the button you activate the bore with just once and it will stay activated but reset its lock!
Not the Ace Combat: 6 music omg the nostalgia- This actually revived a part of me I didn't even remember I had... Idk why this is so personal to me but omg.
i wish it was the best but the f16 and f14 especially are way better. Maybe if they didn't listen to crying youtubers like defyn we would have a more balanced game but nope gotta appease the American mains.
@@DustyBustty it's not SUPPOSED to be "balanced". If it was, we wouldn't see planes or helos, and every tank would be a literal copy of each other. Just STFU and play something else then.
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow i have the f16 and the mig29 lol. whats the point of this game if one country dominates everyone should just use USA then its just america vs america. The mig29 is heavily underperforming and if we want a fun and at least semi balanced game it needs to be buffed.
@@DustyBustty then petition the snail? They supposedly just work off of whatever Sekrit dokuments they can find anyway. You might be able to make up something completely. I'm not sure WHY anyone would play this game that much, let alone BUY anything for it if they're not happy with it.
It's crazy how russian bias these developers are, I mean they should just on principle nerf every russian vehicle/aircraft because of this showing in ukraine.
Ah yes RUSSIAN bias of not being able to pen with a tank until you atleast br 9,7 and jetzt with barerly 200 rounds and no flares. But yea RUSSIAN bias
HEY MAN! I'm "-758th- DBlaise" that you shot down. Good kill and I did not know that was You! I never thought I would see myself on one of your Vids! Totally made my day! XD
The mig-29 being in the game is so surreal. I remember when the Sabre was the pinnacle of jet warfare in the game.
I remember people freakin out when the mustsng was made avail. Now the us tech tree is insane.
WT being advanced while WoT still stuck at Tier X with more prototypes or fake tanks
Same.
@@ry0usama511 they really limited themselves wayyy too much by only going up to early cold war
@@Astro_Guy_1 yeah they could go through Armored Warfare route, but chose to make it an April Fool joke
The F4 was a brick with big enough engines, the mig 21 an engine with wings, the 4th gens were all about fitting as much lift surface onto an aircraft as possible.
Not really
@@AugmentedGravity care to explain why, "not really"?
@@WarmPillow-hs6kj that is not what 4th gen was or is all about.
@@AugmentedGravity bro has no sense of humor
@@Collat3ralD4mage if that was an attempt at humor you mean?
If the map was accurate, basicaly at 10:14 phly was in a Mig29 above my theoretical house in Jbaa town in lebanon
I usually type in chat "welcome to lebanon"
@@danielmerhi4456 bayne wo baynak sho baddon bhal mazbale XD
You got a based profile there, m8
wow, must suck hearing multiple jet fighters break the sound barrier all day every day /:
hope u find a better place to live, I'll be praying for you
@@Tranny_Exterminator_9000 not realy, IDF rarely flys jets now, also they are always high, their sounds is like white noise for sleeping
We need MiG-29 Merch.
I want a Migger shirt
Bro we need that merch plz
@@harryshuman9637 BEHOLD a man of culture
@@harryshuman9637 Bro 😂
Miggers!
the drop tank adds 5 min of fuel. so if you want 20 it will give you 15 main and 5 in the drop.
i noticed that. but in the dev server what you selected was internal fuel and the tank added an extra 8min, in the f16 case. so i think it was bugged
So whats the point of a fuel tank then if it doesn't change the actual amount of fuel you can use? If it only changes the distribution of fuel between the internal and external tanks, then what difference does it make? 15m of fuel internal and 5m fuel external is the same as 20m internal...
Is there something I am missing here?
@@bilack7007 my point exactly. I think it is currently bugged
@@bilack7007 if you don't select the Droptank you can't go for max fuel i guess
I mean, there is a good reason why the MiG-29 outperforms the F-16A. The MiG-29 enter service in 1982, and its HMD helmet arrived in 1985. The F-16A was already around 7 years old by that point.
In fact, by giving the MiG 29 the HMD, the actual counter to the MiG-29 were the first F-16Cs (Block 25 in 1984) with improved radar that allows all-weather BVR capability for their AIM-7M.
And the ADF was built as an interceptor for Air National Guard units. The Taiwanese Block 20 is the closest A model to the 29 in capability.
Ehh, the mig 29 in game is outperformed by the f16, especially in the winrates. Ive bodied mig 29s in my f16 and only have been killed by a mig 29 once. Phly is just a good player.
@@lol-uq2oi no phly is a very mid player, once mig 29 pilots start to play like they should it will be op
Ssshhhhhh gajin needs the bias
@@lol-uq2oi you ever ate r-27t being locked from the front aspect 5km away while being resistant to flares and your f16 cant turn since it's a fking brick?
Reheat or afterburner is a more complete combustion; it combusts some of the normal exhaust products, so it ends up being a cleaner burn. JP-1, effectively kerosene, is hard to burn cleanly. Technology Connections video on Hurricane Lamps goes into this with great detail.
Great explanation. In this way I suppose the catalytic converter on a car is kinda like an afterburner but without added fuel.
@@InsideVsOutsidenot necessarily the cat collects the gases and heavy particulates without disposing of burning them.
F16 fanboys triggered in 3,2,1 :
i'd consider myself a fan of f16 but tbh idrc, doesn't affect how many mig29's i kill per game, to each their own
@@justtypical8604 same, and I don't even have the viper, I've been using the tomcat, and F-5E
Lol you were right
There is one angry fanboy named humane rocketeer ,💀
I think most consider the f-16 to be better though. The f14 is pretty much better than either anyway
So now we don't know what we have. The plane is something inbetween a Mig-29S (9.13) and Mig-29A (9.12) hence on the statcard it just says Mig-29 because they couldn't be decisive enough to add either or. Though in places (can't quite remember where) the 9.13 shows up, and that must be only due to the fact the aircraft got that small hunch indicative of a Mig-29S (but it's really not one since in addition to missing the R-73 it's also missing the R-77). What they should have done in order to avoid confusion is just to model the Mig-29A (9.12) and let the R-73 stay ... yes the aircraft is going to have less range but it would have been truthfull / factually correct, and i think players / fans would have appreciated it way more than some halfbaked compromise (some made up Mig-29).
This^ you worded it nicely! Besides the "hunch" or extended spine was for the added electronics so the aircraft can use R-77...that's not even where the extra fuel is, that was the "fatback" version which came later which got a much enlarged "hunch" or spine. Plus in - game Mig-29 gets a fueltank anyway which extents its range. Overall i feel like Gaijin bungled the Mig-29.
@@lexluger6904 Indeed the MiG-29A (9.12) could be equipped with a centerline fuel tank, and the "Fatback" was the MiG-29SMT (9.17).
Doesn’t the 29S also have a better radar? The A variant is a much better match to the version of the F-16 they added.
MiG29 (9.13) is not MiG-29S (9.13S).
9.13 is 1986 modification with additional fuel tank and l203 gardenia jamming station installed in its enlarged back.
MiG-29S (9.13S and few 9.12S without gardenia jamming station - no hunch back no place for it) is newer and much bigger modernisation (produced from 1991) featuring new radar, armament system and computer thus it could fire r-77
F-14 mains triggered when he keeps calling the phoenix a maverick.
I grew up on Ace Combat 6, still one of my favorite games to date!
love a perfectly cut scream near 9.45
At 20:25 a missile flies within a few feet from your plane for like 4 frames
Seen that to how’d the proxy not go off
Come to say the same thing
6 frames, specifically.
@@Rumcajs981 7*
Day 454: Phly, I challenge you to get 8 kills in one game with the SU-5-1. This MBT/Tank Destroyer is severely underloved in your channel.
You where feeling very funny when you called it a MBT
@@juriszzzgaming8837 he was indeed very funny
@@juriszzzgaming8837 He called it an MBT Destroyer/Tank Destroyer. It's just awkwardly written.
Bro MBT clearly stands for Mobile Battle Tractor duh!😂
@@lancealburque8729 now that makes much more sense. Also for anyone who wants to try a similar chalange - get a kill with the 10 kg bombs on the HE - 51c
I love the Ace combat music at the beginning of the video, Such a banger
AHHHH ace combat intro music. like angels singing in my ear 👌
“Let’s do this, Garuda 1!” Wave of nostalgia inbound
Time to dive into the fireworks
@@tennessee3156 that is zero
loved the nostalgia of this song oh my god
Sheds tear
“All units, pound the hell out of that battalion and don’t get shot up in the process”
Attempt 374:
Play the forgotten Mig-9 and show everyone the power of the original 23-37mm Vodka Jet.
good luck lad
Which could actually not shoot the gun irl, because it killed its engine :D
@@Leonardo-wn2fp boooriiiinggggg
@@Leonardo-wn2fp Engines are optional in the face of the mighty vodka launcher!
@@prochedary4592 interesting enough for you to comment
1:23
Why do i hear Liberation of Gracemeria of ace combat 6.....
Cuz Phly has good taste in ace combat music
0:12 i’m up at night wondering where it all went wrong
The amount of times Phlea called the PHOENIX the MAVERICK in this video was painful😂
That AC6 music at the beginning got me in the heart. GREAT PHLY NOW I HAVE AN UNCONTROLLABLE COMPULSION TO LISTEN TO ZERO & 6's OST. THANKS
*Liberation of Gracemeria starts playing*
Me: *gets goosebumps everywhere*
Ace combat soundtrack is best soundtrack.
Im so glad someone mentioned it.
Bro hit me right in the feels with that Ace Combat music. Love the work PhlyDaddy
Rockets and Missiles can actually be used to counter incoming missiles. The Bullpups are pretty effective in acting as decoys
I love the ace combat music. It’s been an honor being subscribed to you all these years since 2017
20:24 play at 25% speed. That was a close one
That missle gave him a haircut
Just noticed and went to comments to see if anyone else did too
That R60 wanted some meat lmao. 7 frames on screen
1:30 that ACE Combat soundtrack hitting different 🤘🏾🤙🏾👌🏾👌🏾
The Ace Combat soundtrack is so appropriate given your per minute kills. AC soundtracks never get old.
aaaannnd the ace combat music was the chef's kiss on this intro.
I've watched this video 12 times now and can confirm the mig-29 is insane
Maybe when it first released and nobody had flares. But currently. My missile lock prefers the ground than enemies. And you only need 2 flares to get the away
@@stanggang768 exactly people dont understand that a single flare can make the missile turn 180 to follow the flare
@@toxicmist8075 and the Stat card says that this Missile has Eccm. Not possible
@@toxicmist8075 r27's eccm begs to differ xdd
@@toxicmist8075 ive been hit frontally by r-27t so many times while flaring/engine off and maneuvering away. it's the most difficult missile to flare only second to ty-90.
1:22 ACE COMBAT 6 MUSIC!? Legit my favorite game for eternity.
Why does every scammer use telegram lmao.
20:22 is that a MISSILE that cuts just over Phlys cockpit??!!
That ace combat music triggered a huge wave of nostalgia
I'd say the f-16 still Dominates, since they needed the r-27s and removed r-73s it doesn't compete with the aim9 Ls and aim 7ms the f-16 can use. The mig29s r-60s are easyaf to flare and as someone with both of the aircraft I can tell you that these missles make a big difference.
The Ace combat 7 Song Just hit different
the f14 still the king tho, just got a 7kill and 8 kill game back to back vs 16s and mig29s
Damn straight, Tomcat still rules in BVR. Had a 5-kill game with an opening shot beeing a snipe on climbing 29 from about 30kms away with an 7F.
Ye its sad, people Think they are good pilots by shooting people beyond vision.
@@boomcat1337 Where the hell have I claimed I'm a good pilot?
Also, RWR is a thing, and SPO-15 isn't that bad.
@@boriskotaras8511 did i say you ? i said F14 pilots, take what you want from it lol..
oh man, when i heard the Liberation of Gracmeria start playing, i instantly got chills. cant go wrong with AC music ever
Is no one gonna commet on the absolute beauty of a glide back to base with no fuel being almost nearly perfect? I honestly didnt think he was making it
God that Ace Combat Soundtrack is so good and brings me back
Play the Type 61 with A7M2 and it nuke rockets :)
Broooo the way you glide was so clean jesss 🔥 fire just fire vid 🔥🔥
You know the MiG-29 will eventually be put in the German tech tree because of its service with the East German air force and the Luftwaffe after Germany reunified.
Wow that ace combat music really brought me back
The problem with War Thunder jets is, it doesn't reflect how bad Russian radar and missile lock-range is versus the better US, and Allied stuff (Map Size). The Aim-120 is also not equipped to the latest and greatest NATO stuff. They need to be very careful how they nerf the Mig-29 because when the f-15 turns up it may be worse balance wise.
The N019 was a very decent radar for its time, easily comparable in most regards to AN/APG-66 and 65 in the early F-16 and F-18. So was the R-27R compared to the AIM-7F and 7M, though admitidelly, being able to carry just two was quite limiting.
AMRAAM's are post cold war missiles, so are HMD's in USAF planes. The game clearly isn't ready for their addition anyways, just look at how AIM-54's are implemented.
I doubt the F-15 we are likely to get soon (F-15A w MLU and early F-15J) would be a much bigger deal than the F-14A balance wise.
I'm quite curious when they will add the Eurofighter
It’s not the plane, it’s how much u waste, suffer, and sell ur time and money to gaijin
god i love the ace combat 6 referencee in the start
IDK i feel like they need to give it back R-73's.
F-14 is still dominating in top tier match and MIG-29 without R-73 just feels like MIG-23 MLD with better looking skin.
Why would F-14 get a AIM-54 right away and MIG-29 can't get a R-73 ?
Because the R-73 was fucking stupid and the AIM-54 is a gimmick
Because mig 29 already has 2 new missiles
Why would they give it 3?
@@Sumi_S 2 missiles that were nerfed to hell and anycase the f16 also got a new missile
@@toxicmist8075 wrong
Aim7m is a copy paste of aim7f
Simple fact is mig 29 got two new missiles so stop complaining
Used to be Stalinium, now its PUTONIUM
Putinium*
Day 221: Phly, you should play the Hampden TB Mk I. High-yield, low-tier bomber goodness
The „Oh scheiße“ had me 😂
Love the content Phly, keep it up.
Combo time, non premium P61 black widow and m4a2.
Attempt 113
the ace combat music only adds to the experience, love to hear liberation of gracemeria, keep up the great vids man
As a german main i am hopeful that the east german mig29 comes soon
It did
ace combat 6 music goes so hard in the intro
I’m loving all these new premium top tier jets. I’ve never done better in my f-4j. Will make the grind to the f-14 faster
9:09 Fireworks! He flared so much he turned himself into flares!
While most youtubers are complaining about the Mig, you are enjoying it, that is why you are the best.
I mean they should its fucking trash... r60M at 11.7 is an insult
I hear that Ace Combat 6 music intensifying. You getting me all excited bro lol
Should be at least 12.7
f16 femboy cope
@@_geck the f16 should be up there as well
@@_geck a classic, "you think x so you must be y" response. If you're gonna insult someone on the internet, at least be original, people might actually find you funny
@@_geck yes because if someone thinks that the mig 29 is op then they're obivously an america main.. ffs man
All incoming rank 8 planes should be 12.7 minimum. Except the Tornado Xd
With the ace combat music perfect
Btw Phly, a really useful tip, if your missile has the wrong thing locked you can press the button you activate the bore with just once and it will stay activated but reset its lock!
I have launch missile on Mouse5 and activate seeker on Ctrl+Mouse5, it's a lifesaver
@@swoosh13 Not for me.
Not the Ace Combat: 6 music omg the nostalgia- This actually revived a part of me I didn't even remember I had... Idk why this is so personal to me but omg.
Only reason we don't have R73s is because Gaijin is too lazy to fix the 12v12 prop map snowball formula.
20:24 that missile streaking right past Phly gave ME a jumpscare
I love Russian aircraft especially the migs
So do Ukrainian MANPADs!
@@nope9439 that tend to land in other allied nations too sometimes!
That AC6 music * chefs kiss *
15:22 POV: Russians flying over Ukraine trying not to get shot down 😂
Uhhhh, corny cringe
Liberation of Gracmeria was top tier AC music
You should see Joob’s vid on the F16 he got a 5x aircraft destroyed lol
Phly out here liberating Gracemeria…
If only the real MiGs weren't crap...
They aren’t tho
Liberation of Gracemeria is easily top 5 AC songs of all time. Kudos Phly
i wish it was the best but the f16 and f14 especially are way better. Maybe if they didn't listen to crying youtubers like defyn we would have a more balanced game but nope gotta appease the American mains.
Ah yes, that's the reason. Lol cope harder commie-boo.
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow and these are the exact people that make this game unbalanced.
@@DustyBustty it's not SUPPOSED to be "balanced". If it was, we wouldn't see planes or helos, and every tank would be a literal copy of each other. Just STFU and play something else then.
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow i have the f16 and the mig29 lol. whats the point of this game if one country dominates everyone should just use USA then its just america vs america. The mig29 is heavily underperforming and if we want a fun and at least semi balanced game it needs to be buffed.
@@DustyBustty then petition the snail? They supposedly just work off of whatever Sekrit dokuments they can find anyway. You might be able to make up something completely. I'm not sure WHY anyone would play this game that much, let alone BUY anything for it if they're not happy with it.
Ace Combat 6 OST gave me chills, so beautiful 😭😭😭
It's crazy how russian bias these developers are, I mean they should just on principle nerf every russian vehicle/aircraft because of this showing in ukraine.
Of what showing in Ukraine?
Ah yes RUSSIAN bias of not being able to pen with a tank until you atleast br 9,7 and jetzt with barerly 200 rounds and no flares.
But yea RUSSIAN bias
I can already see this guy never got to play at toptier mig 29 is basically cat food right now
that f16 so fast
„Sees a missel „
Him: oh scheiße
@PhlyDaily yup, you're right! The hotter something burns, the lesser smoke You have. Especially when burning hydrocarbons.
Ace Combat's bonkers excellent music in this video is so top tier and fit the MiG perfectly
Ngl the ace combat music had me hypeee
"Start extinguishing the fire" after getting hit by the Tomcat. Lovely!
Ace combat music! Yes! Great video Phly “Go dance with the Angles”! And a Merry Christmas to you and your family.
I always love hearing the Ace Combat music in these videos :D
Wish this game didn’t take that much grinding to get jets
I wonder if this tactic would work still.
bro the sounds...... just perfect
Oooof I love that Ace Combat music in the beginning 😍
Hears Ace Combat music: Synapses fire: immediately like
I wish I could make it to jets, im stuck in rank 3 making baby steps
13:45 Damn, I should call her.
10:51 This is called notching. It works, very good, also in DCS.
Oh the ace combat music in the intro gave me chills
With the Ace Combat 6 or 7 music too....
Dat intro with AC6 soundtrack tho
20:25 you nearly got shwacked by an r60 there xD
Gotta love the AC6 reference
It’s only missing now is
jet ejection seat
HEY MAN! I'm "-758th- DBlaise" that you shot down. Good kill and I did not know that was You! I never thought I would see myself on one of your Vids! Totally made my day! XD
@inboxmeontele_gramyourover7786 How?
That landing at the end was beautiful