In 5-10 years from now, this next generation of football fans will mostly be City fans from growing up watching em -just like how Utd & Arsenal prime years spawned so many new ones. It's just the facts
I Started supporting City from the 15-16 szn just cause i like playing them in Fifa, and all my friends called me a plastic club supporter all just because i came early and the legacy was just beginning they are Liverpool, MU fans so its been lovely watching our rise while they fall i would just hope new supporters support with intent and not just to support the winners back in '16, if i were to have just supported the what was to me back then the best team in Spurs i wouldnt be here on this video, and instead id be taking a toaster bath ahahahaha
@@thatoseloane3440 same with me I liked started playing with them in fifa when I was 11 years old during the 10-11 season. I was 11 i didn’t know the intricacies of football finances I just loved playing with them and then I fell in love watching David silva play and after that growing up and understanding the meaning of sheik mansours takeover it’s not like I could just stop supporting them. In America you can’t exactly “support your local club” cause the mls is a crime against humanity compared to the prem. But I still get called plastic, casual blah blah blah and I just don’t even acknowledge it anymore cause what can I do stop supporting them after 12 years 😂😂😂
@@thatoseloane3440 In 12 years since I started following city, I’ve fallen in love with the club more than any other American team or sport that I was a “fan” of since before I can remember. Football is different than any other sport, once you start then you can’t just stop it’s out of your control at that point especially if I started supporting city naturally with no real outside influence
One thing that stuck with me and became increasingly evident throughout the years is something Pep said in an interview with Lineker when he arrived in England. Lineker asked him whether he had to adopt his style to English football. And Pep said: "No. Not really. Of course here there are more long balls and fights for second balls etc but I don't adapt to the league. _I adapt to the qualities of my players."_ And you see it all the time with Pep's City. From fast wingers like Sterling+Sané to ball retention experts in Grealish+Mahrez, from overlapping FBs to inverting FBs, from Aguero to False9 Foden to Haaland: City play distinctly different every season. And that's not Pep tinkering with tactics for the sake of "evolution of football". It's Pep adapting to the qualities of his best/most played players. People in the media now talk about how "the big striker is making a come back!" but it was never gone! Pep wanted to sign Kane in 2021. He always wanted a striker. He played False 9 for two seasons because he simply didn't have a striker so he adapted to what he had. He's not playing with 4 centre backs now bc "it's the new and best way" but because he literally only has one fullback in his squad.
Absolutely spot on....but no one will look at it the way you have analysed this because it's pep and he has oil money backing him that's why he wins with city. It's honestly sad but us city fans know how great pep is and that's what matters❤
@@m.fuzailbandarkar7023 AMEN TO US PLASTIC CUP TEAM SUPPORTERS I HONESTLY HAVE ALWAYS LOVED THE HATE WE GET IT MAKES THE WINS SWEETER AND THEIR TEARS SALTIER!
‘Didn’t have a striker’ he had the striker sitting on the bench whose top of the league rn, he’s not some mad genius he just spends money the right way and buys the right profiles
There is really no point comparing SAF and Pep. The footballing world back then looked very different. I'd go as far as to say SAF is the greatest sporting director ever. Bc that's more or less the role he would have today given his strengths. He wasn't an amazing coach. In fact he wasn't a coach at all during the latter stages of his career. Could you imagine that in today's game? Having a manager who isn't even coaching his team? Success as a manager aside...Pep is more or less the goat already - as a coach (maybe apart from people like Sacchi etc). And the thing is: you can talk about how great Pep is in that regard without mentioning a single trophy he won. It's not about just that. Look at the influence he's had on football over the past 10+ years. Modernising total football, modernising false 9, introducing sweeper keeper and playing out from the back, introducing inverting fullbacks, playing with right footed RW and left footed LW to stretch the pitch when most wingers were inverting, now playing with 4 CBs, all his players can play multiple positions...the list is endless. Look at his body of work as a coach. It's insane. Look at how much whatever he does influences how other teams try to play or how other managers try to approach the game. And Rio even said: Yes, of course, Messi is/was amazing but at the end of the day they were hopelessly out-tactic'd by Pep in the UCL Finals - especially the second time and SAF didn't want to adapt/was stubborn. As a coach, tactical genius, understanding of football and individual improvement of players, Pep Guardiola is absolute greatness. And in those regards...SAF is pretty mediocre. But Pep couldn't have done the job SAF did because that wasn't about being a genius coach. So there's no point comparing, really. SAF wouldn't do that well if he was a manager today bc he isn't a good enough coach and Pep couldn't have done the job SAF did. The easiest way to put it is, as I said in the very beginning, SAF is the goat sporting director. Pep is the goat coach. _They could have worked together! Imagine that!_
I feel like over the past 5 years Liverpool vs City has been a heated rivalry even though they aren't historic rivals because they were both fighting each other for titles, and met in the CL. Those games until this year were super heated and exciting every time.
It's crazy... Arsenal fan here .. F it 😅😅😅 if citeh win the league they may aswell win the TREBLE + 3PEAT.... MAKING THEM THE BEST N MOST DOMINANT TEAM IN HISTORY. THEN MAYBE RIVALS WILL BE Happy... But that achievement will NEVER BE REPEATED... SO KEEP CHEERING MAN CITY, MAN U FANS 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️😅😅😅
@@CultureCams I don’t even think it’s that deep tbh I’m a city fan from London and I’ve only recently started to dislike United. I definitely have more hatred for Liverpool than United right now
Love watching you 2 tallk ball man FTBL stumbled on the goat duo 😂 nah but fr if Saliba was fit Arsenal would probably have won it, but with Holding there, it's over, and it's up to Madrid to stop them again.
City will win the treble and 3peat, and become the greatest PL team of all time. Hope Arsenal/Madrid can stop it, but I doubt it. United won’t be able to stop it as they won’t get past Brighton.
99 didnt have 5 subs, the 99 united team didnt need 5 subs... you can not compare this trible to the 99 one, 99 one is the king... CITY buying success since 08... city have been proven to be cheats... end off, city had to cheat to beat fergie... llf mugs
They're already the greatest PL team of all time, everybody in the business knows it. They're not the most accomplished yet but they're the best team this planet has ever seen.
Its definitely a thing but i also know many cordial families and supporters between utd x city. We all wanted them to win the league recently. Liverpool is defo the ONE. Arsenal is a sporting rivarly.
Cams/Lyes we cant keep talking about this. It's making me sick fam. Need to call Pogba's witchdoctor and hit dem with the juj. Assnal fans, talk to your boys. They need to get their heads back ina dis.
Every year we say “is this peps best coaching year” last two years he’s won the prem without a number 9 and was a game away from doing a treble. Next year he’s gonna do something and we gonna say the same thing. Pep tactics and philosophy are same just different personnel and variations. Top 5 tactical coach of all time
@VelianFC facing Bayern and Real Madrid and potentially AC Milan in uCL is not that easy all these clubs have great history Madrid most successful club in uCL ac Milan second most and Bayern the 3rd most
The overlap between the 17-19 City team and the the team now is more than you realise and they are not a different team. Ederson Foden KDB Gundogan Stones Laporte Bernardo Silva Mahrez Walker You can also add Sterling Jesus Zinchenko Fernadinho who all played 17-19 and all played in at least one title winning side 2020 to now
I don't think I will see another City side as great as the 18/19. That was our greatest assembled players ever and everyone was at their PEAK. Prime Jesus, De Bruyne, ***B. Silva, Sterling, Sane, Silva, Kompany, Fernandinho, Aguero, Laporte, Walker. 4 trophies, 18 PL win streak at the end to beat Prime Liverpool. They were ruthless. Proof: ruclips.net/video/PXlc31MZG3c/видео.html
you've got a yank waffling on about the integrity of city fans and that they're essentially non existent.... i'd rather us have our local base of real supporters instead of absolute randomers who've never even seen manchester or our stadiums...
Man United fans have really been playing "Who do you want to shag your wife?" for the past 6 years hahaha. Between Liverpool and Man City, now City and Arsenal. Their 3 biggest rivals.
Does pep have to stay as long as Fergie to be considered the GOAT manager? Don’t think so cause of what pep done in his time frame in the league will succeed SAF best period within his most successful time frame
Yeah easier when there are multiple billionaires building super team in premier league. Get real this tribe mentality is keeping you back in stone age.. what position did Fergie discover or reinvented.. that's the level we are talking about. Pep changed football trend
@S. Thats is bullocks, if he only spent the club generated money. Why did United had the most debt when he left ? 600m debt. Club generated money is utter BS when u see how much debt united had.
@S. realise that Van Persie would have cost a good 80m in todays financial climate. Maybe more. United was snapping up players . They were taking all the best players in the league . Yes this is after the rebuild with the academy boys such as Bekham , scholes, giggs etc... united did their fair share of buying. They are still doing it now. Does their spending tarnish their history? Why should it tarnish what were building? Stop the hate
In terms of Fergie and Pep yes the acheivements will be similar however fergie came to a united team that hadnt won the league for many years they wernt a side that was up there it was liverpool at that time. He built that club brick by brick and made it what it is today whereas Pep went into an already winning side that had millions thrown at it so there is that difference between the two. Pep is still such a genius tho props to him for sure.
How many times Pep humble Ferguson in champion league?. How can Ferguson only won two champion league and be considered the greatest coach. Ferguson career is overrated; he didn't have the competition Pep and Klopp had. Wenger was busy building stadium while Ferguson was out spending everyone in the league.
The footballing world back then looked very different. I'd go as far as to say SAF is the greatest sporting director ever. Bc that's more or less the role he would have today given his strengths. He wasn't an amazing coach. In fact he wasn't a coach at all during the latter stages of his career. Could you imagine that in today's game? Having a manager who isn't even coaching his team? Success as a manager aside...Pep is more or less the goat already (maybe apart from people like Sacchi etc). And the thing is: you can talk about how great Pep is in that regard without mentioning a single trophy he won. It's not about just that. Look at the influence he's had on football over the past 10+ years. Modernising total football, modernising false 9, introducing sweeper keeper and playing out from the back, introducing inverting fullbacks, playing with right footed RW and left footed LW to stretch the pitch when most wingers were inverting, now playing with 4 CBs, all his players can play multiple positions...the list is endless. Look at his body of work as a coach. It's insane. Look at how much whatever he does influences how other teams try to play or how other managers try to approach the game. And Rio even said: Yes, of course, Messi is/was amazing but at the end of the day they were hopelessly out-tactic'd by Pep in the UCL Finals - especially the second time and SAF didn't want to adapt/was stubborn. As a coach, tactical genius, understanding of football and individual improvement of players, Pep Guardiola is absolute greatness. And in those regards...SAF is pretty mediocre. But Pep couldn't have done the job SAF did because that wasn't about being a genius coach. So there's no point comparing, really. The easiest way to put it is, as I said in the very beginning, SAF is the goat sporting director. Pep is the goat coach. SAF wouldn't do that well if he was a manager today bc he isn't a good enough coach and Pep couldn't have done the job SAF did.
@@thekb1924 fergie didn't have the competition 😅😅he had prime wenger and prime Jose and everything he won at united he won without cheating, as for fergie outspending everyone he won the treble with 7 academy players , pep is a chequebook manager who had corrupt refs helping him at barca and corrupt owners at citeh and prime Messi, xavi and iniesta at barca without them he cannt win the CL and even with them he only got past Chelsea in 09 semi with corrupt referee , now barca being charged for bribing refs in la liga during the same time and city being charged with breaking ffp 125 times with pep in charge for half of that time, has pep actually won anything without being tainted by bribery corruption and cheating ?
@@thekb1924 that has nothing to do with what i said. Pep always goes to a club that spends alot with big talent already and winning trophies. Fergie came into united when they were not good at all. Hadnt won a trophy in years before he arrived. Big difference there. Dont talk about klopp lol hes the most overrated manager.. one prem title in 7 years.
@@Lucky-to7ly Really ? So how come the previous managers at City didn't win even close to as much as Pep ? If Pep wins this year and next year they will win the most consecutive in EPL history. He would also have won 8 out of 10 season. Just tired of you idiots making excuses. Just look at the trophy count. Pep's at a pace that will easily pass Fergie.
I Started supporting City from the 15-16 szn just cause i like playing them in Fifa, and all my friends called me a plastic club supporter all just because i came early and the legacy was just beginning they are Liverpool, MU fans so its been lovely watching our rise while they fall i would just hope new supporters support with intent and not just to support the winners back in '16, if i were to have just supported the what was to me back then the best team in Spurs i wouldnt be here on this video, and instead id be taking a toaster bath ahahahaha
In 5-10 years from now, this next generation of football fans will mostly be City fans from growing up watching em -just like how Utd & Arsenal prime years spawned so many new ones. It's just the facts
I Started supporting City from the 15-16 szn just cause i like playing them in Fifa, and all my friends called me a plastic club supporter all just because i came early and the legacy was just beginning they are Liverpool, MU fans so its been lovely watching our rise while they fall i would just hope new supporters support with intent and not just to support the winners back in '16, if i were to have just supported the what was to me back then the best team in Spurs i wouldnt be here on this video, and instead id be taking a toaster bath ahahahaha
Agree
@@thatoseloane3440 same with me I liked started playing with them in fifa when I was 11 years old during the 10-11 season. I was 11 i didn’t know the intricacies of football finances I just loved playing with them and then I fell in love watching David silva play and after that growing up and understanding the meaning of sheik mansours takeover it’s not like I could just stop supporting them. In America you can’t exactly “support your local club” cause the mls is a crime against humanity compared to the prem. But I still get called plastic, casual blah blah blah and I just don’t even acknowledge it anymore cause what can I do stop supporting them after 12 years 😂😂😂
@@thatoseloane3440 In 12 years since I started following city, I’ve fallen in love with the club more than any other American team or sport that I was a “fan” of since before I can remember. Football is different than any other sport, once you start then you can’t just stop it’s out of your control at that point especially if I started supporting city naturally with no real outside influence
Until all their titles are stripped. They will be remembered as Marseille and Juventus were remembered... as cheaters.
One thing that stuck with me and became increasingly evident throughout the years is something Pep said in an interview with Lineker when he arrived in England.
Lineker asked him whether he had to adopt his style to English football. And Pep said: "No. Not really. Of course here there are more long balls and fights for second balls etc but I don't adapt to the league. _I adapt to the qualities of my players."_
And you see it all the time with Pep's City. From fast wingers like Sterling+Sané to ball retention experts in Grealish+Mahrez, from overlapping FBs to inverting FBs, from Aguero to False9 Foden to Haaland: City play distinctly different every season. And that's not Pep tinkering with tactics for the sake of "evolution of football". It's Pep adapting to the qualities of his best/most played players.
People in the media now talk about how "the big striker is making a come back!" but it was never gone! Pep wanted to sign Kane in 2021. He always wanted a striker. He played False 9 for two seasons because he simply didn't have a striker so he adapted to what he had.
He's not playing with 4 centre backs now bc "it's the new and best way" but because he literally only has one fullback in his squad.
Absolutely spot on....but no one will look at it the way you have analysed this because it's pep and he has oil money backing him that's why he wins with city.
It's honestly sad but us city fans know how great pep is and that's what matters❤
@@m.fuzailbandarkar7023 AMEN TO US PLASTIC CUP TEAM SUPPORTERS I HONESTLY HAVE ALWAYS LOVED THE HATE WE GET IT MAKES THE WINS SWEETER AND THEIR TEARS SALTIER!
@@thatoseloane3440 wish I could punch these rivals cause they really work on my nerves 😂
How do you handle it
@@m.fuzailbandarkar7023 By winning
‘Didn’t have a striker’ he had the striker sitting on the bench whose top of the league rn, he’s not some mad genius he just spends money the right way and buys the right profiles
Nice and refreshing to hear football talk with honesty and minimum bias..
There is really no point comparing SAF and Pep.
The footballing world back then looked very different. I'd go as far as to say SAF is the greatest sporting director ever. Bc that's more or less the role he would have today given his strengths.
He wasn't an amazing coach. In fact he wasn't a coach at all during the latter stages of his career.
Could you imagine that in today's game? Having a manager who isn't even coaching his team?
Success as a manager aside...Pep is more or less the goat already - as a coach (maybe apart from people like Sacchi etc).
And the thing is: you can talk about how great Pep is in that regard without mentioning a single trophy he won. It's not about just that. Look at the influence he's had on football over the past 10+ years.
Modernising total football, modernising false 9, introducing sweeper keeper and playing out from the back, introducing inverting fullbacks, playing with right footed RW and left footed LW to stretch the pitch when most wingers were inverting, now playing with 4 CBs, all his players can play multiple positions...the list is endless.
Look at his body of work as a coach. It's insane. Look at how much whatever he does influences how other teams try to play or how other managers try to approach the game.
And Rio even said: Yes, of course, Messi is/was amazing but at the end of the day they were hopelessly out-tactic'd by Pep in the UCL Finals - especially the second time and SAF didn't want to adapt/was stubborn.
As a coach, tactical genius, understanding of football and individual improvement of players, Pep Guardiola is absolute greatness.
And in those regards...SAF is pretty mediocre.
But Pep couldn't have done the job SAF did because that wasn't about being a genius coach.
So there's no point comparing, really.
SAF wouldn't do that well if he was a manager today bc he isn't a good enough coach and Pep couldn't have done the job SAF did.
The easiest way to put it is, as I said in the very beginning, SAF is the goat sporting director. Pep is the goat coach. _They could have worked together! Imagine that!_
Good outlook 👍
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I feel like over the past 5 years Liverpool vs City has been a heated rivalry even though they aren't historic rivals because they were both fighting each other for titles, and met in the CL. Those games until this year were super heated and exciting every time.
SCARY HOURS
you holding another 6 next season
Spooky settings
@@highfiveentertainment298 they will hold 10 as he’s called ten hag
@@treyyg-rt5kz 😂😂😂 they lucky pep gets sub happy when we go 4 up and kills the momentum! you right 10 would be a perfect record
It's crazy... Arsenal fan here ..
F it 😅😅😅 if citeh win the league they may aswell win the TREBLE + 3PEAT....
MAKING THEM THE BEST N MOST DOMINANT TEAM IN HISTORY.
THEN MAYBE RIVALS WILL BE Happy...
But that achievement will NEVER BE REPEATED...
SO KEEP CHEERING MAN CITY, MAN U FANS 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️😅😅😅
Pep has just taken little old city, to cl favorites every season never having won it
Great chat lads, refreshing honesty considering your club allegiances
I don't know man but every time there's Lyes in a pod, its gonna be a good one
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Peps always been on the trajectory to pass fergie, guy won every trophy available to him as soon as he came in it’s just a matter of time
City United in Manchester is THE game not Liverpool it's only outside of Manchester it's not
Culture Cams is really a guy i even as an Arsenal fan like to listen. Turkish ldn and Cams are for me 🐐
Arsenal are going to win the Premier League.
City may have a chance of winning the Champions League and the FA Cup.
More conversations like this channel just had need to be done on other channels.....really enjoyed it
your not manc that explains why you dont feel the derby rivalry. Ur from london but people from manchester would say otherwise for me i despise citeh.
Thats why we speak from our own perspective.
@@CultureCams I don’t even think it’s that deep tbh I’m a city fan from London and I’ve only recently started to dislike United. I definitely have more hatred for Liverpool than United right now
Love watching you 2 tallk ball man FTBL stumbled on the goat duo 😂 nah but fr if Saliba was fit Arsenal would probably have won it, but with Holding there, it's over, and it's up to Madrid to stop them again.
no, arsenal would hold 6 at the Etihad
@@highfiveentertainment298 not with Saliba lol
love bro!
@@imLAwhoareyou what are you talking about, who is saliba! same guy who let Bournemouth Bag two goals, And held 3 at your own stadium
City will win the treble and 3peat, and become the greatest PL team of all time. Hope Arsenal/Madrid can stop it, but I doubt it. United won’t be able to stop it as they won’t get past Brighton.
99 didnt have 5 subs, the 99 united team didnt need 5 subs... you can not compare this trible to the 99 one, 99 one is the king... CITY buying success since 08... city have been proven to be cheats... end off, city had to cheat to beat fergie... llf mugs
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City are ffp cheats and will be remembered the same way that lance Armstrong is remembered
Madrid has probability but United and Arsenal as much I want them to win I doubt it.
They're already the greatest PL team of all time, everybody in the business knows it. They're not the most accomplished yet but they're the best team this planet has ever seen.
One game at a time is the mindset Pep always goes for
Walk round Manchester and tell me the City United rivalry ain’t a thing. Social media and global fans have 0 idea loool
Its definitely a thing but i also know many cordial families and supporters between utd x city. We all wanted them to win the league recently. Liverpool is defo the ONE. Arsenal is a sporting rivarly.
Dude pep changed the way football is played in England come on man Fergie didn't do that
City cheated and face getting relegated to the Championship they owe United and Liverpool 3 premier league titles each
The studio is moving me 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Cams/Lyes we cant keep talking about this. It's making me sick fam. Need to call Pogba's witchdoctor and hit dem with the juj. Assnal fans, talk to your boys. They need to get their heads back ina dis.
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Every year we say “is this peps best coaching year” last two years he’s won the prem without a number 9 and was a game away from doing a treble. Next year he’s gonna do something and we gonna say the same thing. Pep tactics and philosophy are same just different personnel and variations. Top 5 tactical coach of all time
City will win every game from now. Winning the treble
This would eclipse 99 as the level of the quality of opponent is much much higher.
#domination
@VelianFC mxm watch this time. may is around the corner, we cooking them
@VelianFC facing Bayern and Real Madrid and potentially AC Milan in uCL is not that easy all these clubs have great history Madrid most successful club in uCL ac Milan second most and Bayern the 3rd most
@VelianFC history has the impact look at Madrid......won 5 UCL in last 9 years..... that's insane
The overlap between the 17-19 City team and the the team now is more than you realise and they are not a different team.
Ederson
Foden
KDB
Gundogan
Stones
Laporte
Bernardo Silva
Mahrez
Walker
You can also add
Sterling
Jesus
Zinchenko
Fernadinho
who all played 17-19 and all played in at least one title winning side 2020 to now
Boring boring boring boring … u just want to talk about united and history and that man city has no rivalry
If thats what you took from the video then God help you
I don't think I will see another City side as great as the 18/19. That was our greatest assembled players ever and everyone was at their PEAK. Prime Jesus, De Bruyne, ***B. Silva, Sterling, Sane, Silva, Kompany, Fernandinho, Aguero, Laporte, Walker. 4 trophies, 18 PL win streak at the end to beat Prime Liverpool. They were ruthless. Proof: ruclips.net/video/PXlc31MZG3c/видео.html
City City, the best team in the land and all of the world! 😂 we cooking everyone. I love the big games cooking the big boys is where it's at
Only thing citeh have been cooking for the last 17 years is the books
@@Guyfaulkes1605 No shít mate how else were we ment to Build our own Ai, Haaland will be coming to a stadium near you 😂😂
I think citys rivals are themselves..thats what makes them so remarkable..
Just two swampdwellers reminiscing about utds glory days and the rise of the city juggernaut! 😂😂
Arsenal have already gained immortality, no other team will ever go a season unbeaten and win a golden PL trophy.
you've got a yank waffling on about the integrity of city fans and that they're essentially non existent.... i'd rather us have our local base of real supporters instead of absolute randomers who've never even seen manchester or our stadiums...
Carlo Ancelotti doesn’t think so
But if MC & Haaland beat them fair and square - they can go all the way
Watching this after City achieved Immortality hits different!
something about yanks questioning the integrity of local supporters will just never sit right with me
Man United fans have really been playing "Who do you want to shag your wife?" for the past 6 years hahaha. Between Liverpool and Man City, now City and Arsenal. Their 3 biggest rivals.
Does pep have to stay as long as Fergie to be considered the GOAT manager? Don’t think so cause of what pep done in his time frame in the league will succeed SAF best period within his most successful time frame
After watching this video, it would be really funny if they bottled to Bayern and Arsenal end up winning the league
Wasn't the argument that Klopp was better than Pep? 🙄 It's all gone quiet over there. 🤣
peps tribe wont be as hard as Fergie's, we our in the time of 5 subs... its easier for pep than it was for fergie...
What an insecure comment😂
Yeah easier when there are multiple billionaires building super team in premier league. Get real this tribe mentality is keeping you back in stone age.. what position did Fergie discover or reinvented.. that's the level we are talking about. Pep changed football trend
Shallow achievements for a cheating club 🤷🏼♂️
Nah not still 😭🤝
Guardiola and injuries will stop tem
Man United are, Arsenal are, Real Madrid are.
Arsenal will stop them . Three one
First
19 games unbeaten run...
Yes they will. How do you stop a team that has Grealish, Bernardo Silva, Gundogan, De Bruyne and Rodri in the midfield all at the same time?
We had all those guys for yrs and we still haven't won a UCL bro. It's genuinely abt luck and experience
We are winning the treble
Ferggy is the GOAT. its too soon for treble chats . we just enjoying our football right now taking it game by game. we always want to win everything
@S. Thats is bullocks, if he only spent the club generated money. Why did United had the most debt when he left ? 600m debt. Club generated money is utter BS when u see how much debt united had.
@S. realise that Van Persie would have cost a good 80m in todays financial climate. Maybe more. United was snapping up players . They were taking all the best players in the league . Yes this is after the rebuild with the academy boys such as Bekham , scholes, giggs etc... united did their fair share of buying. They are still doing it now. Does their spending tarnish their history? Why should it tarnish what were building? Stop the hate
In terms of Fergie and Pep yes the acheivements will be similar however fergie came to a united team that hadnt won the league for many years they wernt a side that was up there it was liverpool at that time. He built that club brick by brick and made it what it is today whereas Pep went into an already winning side that had millions thrown at it so there is that difference between the two. Pep is still such a genius tho props to him for sure.
How many times Pep humble Ferguson in champion league?. How can Ferguson only won two champion league and be considered the greatest coach. Ferguson career is overrated; he didn't have the competition Pep and Klopp had. Wenger was busy building stadium while Ferguson was out spending everyone in the league.
The footballing world back then looked very different. I'd go as far as to say SAF is the greatest sporting director ever. Bc that's more or less the role he would have today given his strengths.
He wasn't an amazing coach. In fact he wasn't a coach at all during the latter stages of his career.
Could you imagine that in today's game? Having a manager who isn't even coaching his team?
Success as a manager aside...Pep is more or less the goat already (maybe apart from people like Sacchi etc).
And the thing is: you can talk about how great Pep is in that regard without mentioning a single trophy he won. It's not about just that. Look at the influence he's had on football over the past 10+ years.
Modernising total football, modernising false 9, introducing sweeper keeper and playing out from the back, introducing inverting fullbacks, playing with right footed RW and left footed LW to stretch the pitch when most wingers were inverting, now playing with 4 CBs, all his players can play multiple positions...the list is endless.
Look at his body of work as a coach. It's insane. Look at how much whatever he does influences how other teams try to play or how other managers try to approach the game.
And Rio even said: Yes, of course, Messi is/was amazing but at the end of the day they were hopelessly out-tactic'd by Pep in the UCL Finals - especially the second time and SAF didn't want to adapt/was stubborn.
As a coach, tactical genius, understanding of football and individual improvement of players, Pep Guardiola is absolute greatness.
And in those regards...SAF is pretty mediocre.
But Pep couldn't have done the job SAF did because that wasn't about being a genius coach.
So there's no point comparing, really.
The easiest way to put it is, as I said in the very beginning, SAF is the goat sporting director. Pep is the goat coach.
SAF wouldn't do that well if he was a manager today bc he isn't a good enough coach and Pep couldn't have done the job SAF did.
@@thekb1924 fergie didn't have the competition 😅😅he had prime wenger and prime Jose and everything he won at united he won without cheating, as for fergie outspending everyone he won the treble with 7 academy players , pep is a chequebook manager who had corrupt refs helping him at barca and corrupt owners at citeh and prime Messi, xavi and iniesta at barca without them he cannt win the CL and even with them he only got past Chelsea in 09 semi with corrupt referee , now barca being charged for bribing refs in la liga during the same time and city being charged with breaking ffp 125 times with pep in charge for half of that time, has pep actually won anything without being tainted by bribery corruption and cheating ?
@@thekb1924 that has nothing to do with what i said. Pep always goes to a club that spends alot with big talent already and winning trophies. Fergie came into united when they were not good at all. Hadnt won a trophy in years before he arrived. Big difference there. Dont talk about klopp lol hes the most overrated manager.. one prem title in 7 years.
@@Lucky-to7ly Really ? So how come the previous managers at City didn't win even close to as much as Pep ? If Pep wins this year and next year they will win the most consecutive in EPL history. He would also have won 8 out of 10 season. Just tired of you idiots making excuses. Just look at the trophy count. Pep's at a pace that will easily pass Fergie.
When you talking all time you have to talk about the Liverpool sides of the 70/80s
Didn’t they win like 3 European cups in 5-6 years
Your guest living in the past, the Premiere League today is so strong and powerful, and Man United is a joke for many years
One man cam stop pep...jose mourinho...he stopped pep in la liga...give jose same backing as pep
PLEASE ARSENAL. PLEASE REAL MADRID. PLEASE SHEFFIELD UNITED.
As a Liverpool fan, being in a title race with city is so draining mentally.
this city team would hammer united treble team miles stronger and fitter now
MAN UTD HAVE NEVER WON THE TREBLE + 3-PEAT...
AMEN TO US PLASTIC CLUB SUPPORTERS I HONESTLY HAVE ALWAYS LOVED THE HATE WE GET IT MAKES THE WINS SWEETER AND THEIR TEARS SALTIER!
Great Video!
Of city Get the treble, they have a chance to do it twice
Yeah keep raising the bar.. lol pep is already good just enjoy football don't put your wishes on a team..have fun with the beautiful football
Unfortunately we will only win the fa cup Arsenal will win the league and Madrid will knock us out again
búm, speak for yourself
Cap
I Started supporting City from the 15-16 szn just cause i like playing them in Fifa, and all my friends called me a plastic club supporter all just because i came early and the legacy was just beginning they are Liverpool, MU fans so its been lovely watching our rise while they fall i would just hope new supporters support with intent and not just to support the winners back in '16, if i were to have just supported the what was to me back then the best team in Spurs i wouldnt be here on this video, and instead id be taking a toaster bath ahahahaha
2 Man United Fanboy gonna cry badly end of the season