I feel like Bambi 2 is better than the kind of remakes Disney has been making, i mean, i love the theme song and I like the relationship developed between Bambi and his father and the growth they have.
Agreed. Bambi (1942): A Timeless Masterpiece. Bambi 2 (2006): A surprisingly good faithful midquel. Bambi (Remake): A failed imitation of the original. Bambi meets Godzilla: An abomination of animation and insult to the original Disney film and novel. I also had hope for the remake to be good but now I'm worried Bambi's dad could be doomed. If he buys the farm then the film will fail and it will make me appreciate the midquel Bambi 2 and the original even more.
I am so confused with this. Yes, the death scene from Bambi traumatized a lot of children when it came out, but it was only the sixth disney movie ! Maybe people where not used to this in children cartoons, but today the dead parents is used so many times that it became a joke for the fans. And I don't understand how Bambi can be modernised when the entire movie takes place in a forest ? The hunters will use drones to track the animals instead of dogs ? Bambi will find a lost cell phone ? 😐
It’s a joke for the fans, because the fans are now older people who can understand the joke, this movie is also targeted towards little kids who didn’t grow up to understand the joke yet. It’s not just about seeing a real life dear gets shot behind their baby deer, but it’s also all the other scenes in the movie. Like the scene where the hunter came and started shooting all the animals while the animals were trying to hide and not panic. One of the birds panic and then the hunter shot them, and we literally saw their body fall to the ground and be limp as all the other animals run to safety and panic as they do it. It’s also the scene towards the end where Bambi is an adult and the whole forest is burning and you’re gonna see all these real life animals running around and catching on fire and screaming and panicking, it’s going to be a little more traumatizing than the cartoon version, that little kids probably have never seen. Also, when it comes to modernizing, I don’t think it’s obviously talking about cell phones, or whatever else you mentioned, the story is just going to be even more very heavily focused on the effects of hunting for fun, forest fires, and hunting Mothers with babies, and all that crap about nature
@@MaidenOfHusbands If I was asked to update Bambi, I would gave the female love-interests more personality. And not cut immediately to adult bambi after the death of his mom, the transition is kinda jarring in the cartoon. The environmental message was already obvious in the original, but I fear the hunters will be shown in the remake, and they will be cartoonishly evil like cruella instead of being mysterious.
So... they take a movie about dealing with grief and growing up as an orphan... and then they remove the grief and make Bambi no longer an orphan? That's not Bambi, that's a CGI nature documentary about deer made by a kid who doesn't know what death is
Disney wasn't afraid to kill Mufasa off again in The Lion King remake, which I think many would consider just as traumatic as the death of Bambi's Mom (if not more so because in The Lion King we actually get to see Simba curling up and crying next to his Dad's body). So I'm not sure what the difference is. The death of Bambi's Mother is emotionally fraught, but it isn't explicit. Nothing is shown, so I don't really see how it could be changed to make it more "modern" without removing it entirely. Which I definitely think would be a mistake. The idea that life is fleeting but love endures in many forms is the entire point. There's even a whole song about it. So I feel like it would be a different story if they downplayed or removed that critical moment.
I am a woman and I'm all for female empowerment, but I think it has gone too far in these and other big movies. It's great to let girls know that they don't have to just be a mother or play a motherly role, that they can be heroes too. I always wanted more of that in stories when I was growing up. But the way it's being done now doesn't make sense to me. It seems like they're saying women have to be like men to be heroes, that women can't be emotional or motherly, that those traits are bad and that you can't be a hero and have those traits. And some girls and women do want to be mothers, so taking away our examples of motherly women in films is also making it seem like wanting that is not as good as wanting to be a warrior or a scientist or whatever. When really, the message should be "you can be anything and whether it's a traditionally feminine thing or a traditionally masculine thing (or both or multiple different things) doesn't matter, just be yourself."
There is this scenes from Anastasia (for thoses who know) where the villain openly talk about murder and horror before we seen his skeleton melt in our face. I forgot how 《child 》movie used to be like this... Imagine they turn the villain soft and push away this type of violence... what is left ?
I disagree with the writing saying that Bambie’s death should be ‘censored’ or ‘modernised’, quite frankly people need to toughen up and stop being so god damn sensitive, children need to l arm about death, albeit in a tasteful way
True, most of us didn't even get severely traumatized after the movie. Because us kids know that death is part of life, that sometimes life is just unfair to people. I think the latest generation of kids can handle it! They can be tough too!
Although the death of Bambi's mother is heartbreaking for small kids, it was created to teach children how to deal with parental mortality in an emotional and realistic approach. It demonstrates how cruel life and the world can be. These films taught children how to deal with such emotions. It was Character-building experiences for the audiences for my generation. Bambi’s mother death scene is literally the main point of Bambi. It's the film's soul. The message is about family, loss, and moving on.
The only way Disney could make people not hate the live action Bambi as much is if they release it the same year as the horror movie version of Bambi. Yes there’s a horror movie version in the works by the same people that made Winnie the Pooh blood and honey which was just miserably bad.
Though it would be funny if it came out the same year and date as that monstrosity though. I just hope these horror adaptations flop, no one wants these movies.
How can you make a horror movie from one of the most coward and harmless animal? I mean, if we don't talk about males in heat, then the female and her babies are harmless
I'm a super big fan of bambi and it is devastating for me to keep hearing about this modern bambi. I was never traumatized by the animation. If anything I watched it a bazillion times and though it's still sad it's beautiful and taught me as a kid that many wild animals live a dangerous survival of the fittest type of life. It's real life and it was made in such a way to be appropriate for kids. The animation doesn't even show the death of Bambi's mom. It was executed with a gunshot, bambi searching for his mom, very sad music, and his dad telling him he couldn't be with his mother anymore. That isn't scary or traumatizing. Just super sad.
Exactly!! I mean the first time I saw bambi I was a child a toddler, and cried... Yet literally less than two days later I begged my parents to watch it AGAIN! I watched it so much that the CD got scratched (meaning I watched it until it wasnt watchable), my parents brought a new one, and that got scratched as well.
Plus, Bambi is one of Walt Disney's personal favorites! It's about the coming-of-age of a young fawn living in the woods; dealing with life, love and also death. Bambi's mother gave her life, so he can live. Take that away, and the story loses it's impact
The original novel of Bambi by Felix Salten was an adult novel (not for children) and the Mother passing away was in the novel too. Not having it in the reboot would be disrespectful not just the original Disney film but the original Felix Salten novel which is the source materiel so it would fail. I would not however want to see a book faithful reboot of The Fox and The Hound as the original novel (which I loathe) is way too adult, dark and depressing as Schindler's List and it has a horrific downer ending, so it also wouldn't work and fail in my opinion as the Disney film is fine as it is.
The live actions are also getting what I call the girl boss treatment. The only way a female character can have good strengths is if she’s a headstrong leader or funny or something. Cinderella is my favorite because they diverted away from that and it made me so happy. Her strength is kindness. It sucks to see these female roles getting stuck into these stereotypes of a girl boss queen who isn’t traditionally feminine or might not be headstrong/a leader/whatever. I think they could’ve stuck with Wendy being a sort of mother figure, it’s definitely a strength to have that caring nature. But they could’ve tweaked it for the modern audience like Cinderella EDIT:spelling
Disney much as I want them succeed I just don’t see that happening because they absolutely refuse to listen to actual fans and default to what the “woke” people believe. Thus removing any of the magic of the original and replacing it with just painful to watch story that not many people are going to want to watch
I’m not gonna lie, I didn’t cry when Bambi’s mom died. I watched this movie once and thought it was boring as fuck. Do kids today even watch the older movies?
It's frustrating because they have good ideas, but never flesh them out. Lion King (2019) wanted a whole rivalry with Shenzi and Nala and I was up for it, but they dedicated no scenes to it to build it up. They look at each other once in one scene and then they fight one on one at the end like they'd been building up this hatred and it's like, what hatred? What rivalry? You never shared a word! It wasn't like Nala was the one who scratched your face cause Simba didn't even do it like in the original. They want Shenzi as this cold leader and it could've worked if they dedicated any time to it. But no, they spent a good 5+ minutes following Simba's fur to reach Rafiki cause it cared more to jerk off to its technology than tell a story. Mulan they wanted it to be more serious, but they took out the songs, likeable characters, and replaced it with Mulan not needing to train or anything she's just better right out the womb. And I don't even get the 'be more realistic' and taking out Mushu cause all they did was add that witch lady that could turn into animals and stuff - so magic wasn't an issue? I don't understand why they take away what they think is broken, then never replace it with anything better. Aladdin has this whole thing where it wants Jasmine to want to be a competent leader and care about politics, but then they still keep the scene where she doesn't know what paying for food is...? Like, if you're changing entire aspects of someone's character you have to change scenes. You can't just force them into the plot and have the plot lead them if the characters don't make sense. It's so irritating! So I have no idea what they'll do with Bambi because most people only remember the mom dying and if you take the most iconic scene out... (sorry for the long rant, I'm just confused by these choices)
What's worse about the Jasmine scene in the remake is that she refuses to take responsibility for her actions. In the original, she does understand how transactions work, but only took the apple because it's very easy to be absent-minded when you never had to buy anything. But even then, she apologizes and offers to go get money from the palace to make up for her mistake. This is a good moment because it shows that Jasmine knows when to swallow her pride, which makes sense because we know she hates being a princess.
But they never really do those things. That's the problem with these remakes. They're mostly just responding to some superficial complaints about "problems" that either never existed or weren't a big deal. The remakes just prove that Disney doesn't understand their own works. Like, they make Jasmine politically ambitious just for the sake of girlbossing her when she was already a girlboss in the original. And giving her political ambitions doesn't really add anything to her character, because the point of the character is that she's not interested in power, but freedom. Same problem with Beauty and the Beast. Making Belle an inventor is a superficial change that adds nothing to her character. Another problem is that these remakes remove all the character flaws of the protagonists. Like what they did to Mowgli in the Jungle Book remake. In the original he was rebellious and sometimes acted bratty, but he was still sympathetic because we understand that he only acts that way because he's in a very frightening situation where he has to leave the only home he's ever known and is also confused because he suffers from an identity crisis that stems from being human without knowing what a human is, hence his tendency to imitate other animals in attempt to identify with them. But in the remake, Mowgli is a complete Gary Stu who never faces any consequences or inner demons. He even stays in the jungle, which misses the point of the story. They did the same thing with Simba in the Lion King remake. They removed all his immaturity, which deprives him of the opportunity to overcome it.
@@vetarlittorf1807 ai guess it depends on what they rhink people want. Some people criticized Jasmine for love being her main theme in the original--which it wasn't, but I guess I can see why people mistakenly think this--along with her and Aladdin being sexualized, so I appreciate the changes in that regard. Of course, the personality for Jasmine is STARKLY different in both versions. Belle being an inventor is something Disney does seem to be toying around with in Lorcana as well. I hqae no issue with it since her intelligence could cover an interest in inventions given her father being one. Cinderella was the golden standard for Disney remakes; Cinderella and the prince got more screentime and development--but sadly the music was removed (except on the album). Mulan, in contrast, is the worst one for me, what with the removal of music, Shang, Shan Yu (an underrated villain, but I do understand the concerns of the ethnic group), Mushu, etc. She's my favorite Disney princess, and it was a forgettable remake.
@@OpticalSorcerer I don't think Aladdin or Jasmine were sexualized. Just sexy. Other than the scene where Jasmine distracts Jafar, there was never really any scene where either of them flaunt their sexuality or any butt shots or anything like that. Heck, Aladdin doesn't even have nipples. Besides, Jasmine's apparel was basically what every teenage American girl wore in the 90's. If anything, Jasmine was more modest than contemporary young women since she didn't wear Capri pants or denim shorts. When I think of sexualized, I think of something like what Joss Whedon did with Black Widow in the first Avengers movie, where he deliberately emphasized on her cleavage, butt and very feminine poses. And I don't think Belle being an inventor adds anything. In the original, Belle started off as a well-read dreamer who wanted to escape into the fantasy worlds in her books because she was a social outcast. Then over the course of the film she grows in maturity thanks to her friendship and eventual romance with Beast. There isn't really any room for themes about inventions. Maurice is an inventor because it makes him stand out, not for plot reasons. If Disney wanted to do a movie about inventors, they could have just made a movie about Ben Franklin or something.
@@vetarlittorf1807 Aladdin was made to be purposefully sexy to appeal to a female audience, with his looks inspired by Tom Cruise. Neither his nor Jasmine's outfits fit the setting--and Blacl Widow is more along the lines of objectification than simple sexualization. Belle being an inventor doesn't really add anything, but I do feel like it fits with her character--and I think she was an outcast because of her interest in fantasy moreso than the other way around. But that is something that frustrates me about the remake. While a small change, it's annoying that she went from reading fairy tales to Romeo & Juliet, I'm assuming to make her seem more practical than imaginative. I don't see why she can't love both.
@@OpticalSorcerer Doesn't fit the setting? Aladdin doesn't have a "real" setting. It's a fantasy land with middle eastern flavor. Disney has never really been authentic.
I just hope that in the movie of Shrek 5, once Disney buys DreamWorks, all the Official Disney Princes and Princesses from their respective movies appear, especially all the characters from the movie of Rise of the Guardians, from the movies of Frozen, from the movies of How to Train Your Dragon, from the movie of Brave, from the movie of Tangled, from the movie of Moana, from the movie of Raya and the Last Dragon, from the movie of Encanto and the most important character in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea, Melody, the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, and besides, they will be the new main characters of the movie of Shrek 5 so that they help Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Goldilocks, the Three Bears, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and the others to defeat Rumpelstiltskin, Death, all the Official Villains of Disney and all the Official Villains of DreamWorks, as The Evil Queen, Lady Tremaine, Drizella Tremaine, Maleficent, Marina del Rey, Ursula, Gaston LeGume, Maestro Forte, Jafar, Sa'luk, Governor John Ratcliffe, Shan Yu, Dr. Facilier, Mother Gothel, Zhan Tiri, Te Kā, Tamatoa, the Red Death, Drago Bludvist, Grimmel the Grisly, Mor'du, Prince Hans, Pitch Black, the Druun, the Soldiers, Dr. Zara, Chelsea Van Der Zee, King Magnifico and Morgana, and to prevent Rumpelstiltskin, Death and the other Official Villains of Disney and DreamWorks from ruling and destroying the kingdom of Princess Fiona and King Artie called Far Far Away, Shrek along with his wife named Princess Fiona will need help from their new friends which are the Official Disney Princes and Princesses, as Prince Florian, Princess Snow White, Prince Charming, Princess Cinderella, Prince Philip, Princess Aurora, Prince Eric, Princess Ariel, Prince Adam, Princess Belle, Prince Aladdín, Princess Jasmine, Prince John Smith, Princess Pocahontas, Prince Li Shang, Princess Fa Mulan, Prince Naveen, Princess Tiana, Prince Flynn Rider, Princess Rapunzel, Maui, Queen Moana Waialiki, Hiccup Haddock, Princess Merida, Kristoff Bjorgman, Queen Anna, Jack Frost, Princess Elsa, Princess Raya, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Asha, Anastasia Tremaine, Namaari, Yi, Ruby Gillman and Melody, although in reality, Melody is the first and only that she is not a true Official Disney Princess along with Namaari and Anastasia Tremaine, because Anastasia Tremaine is not born of royalty, while, Namaari is an Unofficial Disney Princess and Melody made her debut in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea and it is also because she is the first and only daughter of an Official Disney Princess, but Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Goldilocks, the Three Bears, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle, and Felicia, the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and the others also need Anastasia Tremaine, Namaari and Melody's help to protect and save their kingdom called Far Far Away away from Rumpelstiltskin, Death and the other Official Villains of Disney and DreamWorks, because Anastasia Tremaine and Namaari are now good people and Melody is the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, but in the movie of Shrek 5, I also want to see the death of Queen Lillian, because since her husband named King Harold passed away in the movie of Shrek 3, she has felt heartbroken and that caused his own death in his kingdom called Far Far Away, and all the inhabitants of Princess Fiona and King Artie's kingdom called Far Far Away are saddened by the death of Queen Lillian, because now she is with her husband named King Harold in heaven, and now they have lost their queen, that means now the kingdom of Far Far Away needs a new queen and King Artie said that his love interest, girlfriend, fiancée and former classmate from Worcestershire school called Princess Guinevere would be the one to be the new Queen of Far Far Away, so King Artie decided to return to his old school called Worcestershire along with Shrek, with his older cousin Princess Fiona, with Donkey, with Dragon, with Puss in Boots, with Kitty Softpaws, with Perrito, with Goldilocks, with the Three Bears, with the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, with the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and with the others to meet again with their friends from their school who are actually Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany and their love interest, girlfriend and fiancée Princess Guinevere to take them back to their kingdom called Far Far Away, and in the movie of Shrek 5, I also want to see the romance of all the Official Disney Princes and Princesses from their respective movies, especially the romance of Maui and Queen Moana Waialiki, the romance of Hiccup Haddock and Princess Mérida, the romance of Jack Frost and Princess Elsa, the romance of Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany and the romance of King Artie and Princess Guinevere, because I think in the movie of Shrek 5, Maui will be Queen Moana Waialiki's love interest, boyfriend and fiancé, while Hiccup Haddock will be Princess Mérida's love interest and boyfriend, Princess Tiffany will be Prince Lancelot's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée and Princess Guinevere will be King Artie's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée, because Queen Moana Waialiki is going to fall in love with Maui, Princess Mérida is going to fall in love Hiccup Haddock, Princess Tiffany is going to fall in love with Prince Lancelot and Princess Guinevere is going to fall in love with King Artie, but they don't know how to tell them their feelings towards them and neither how to win their hearts, because every time Queen Moana Waialiki gets too close to Maui when it comes to true love, she gets very nervous with him, while which in the case of Princess Mérida is also the same, because whenever Princess Mérida gets too close to Hiccup Haddock when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous with him, in the case of Princess Tiffany it is also the same, because whenever Princess Tiffany gets too close to Prince Lancelot when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, and in the case of Princess Guinevere too, because every time Princess Guinevere gets too close to King Artie when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, but luckily for them, Princess Fiona will help Queen Moana Waialiki to win the heart of Maui, also Princess Mérida to win the heart of Hiccup Haddock, also Princess Tiffany to win the heart of Prince Lancelot and also Princess Guinevere to win the heart of King Artie, and I also want that in the movie of Shrek 5, Jack Frost will be Princess Elsa's love interest and boyfriend, because Jack Frost leaves fall in love with Princess Elsa, but he doesn't know how to tell her his feelings and how to win her heart, because every time Jack Frost gets too close to Princess Elsa when it comes to true love, he gets very nervous with her, but fortunately for him, Shrek will help Jack Frost to win the heart of Princess Elsa, except Princess Raya, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Asha, Goldilocks, Namaari, Yi, Ruby Gillman and Anastasia Tremaine, because now they will be the only Official Disney Princesses who do not need to have love interests and who can remain single forever, and I also say the same for Melody, the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, because like her adoptive aunts Princess Raya, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Asha, Goldilocks, Namaari, Yi, Ruby Gillman and Anastasia Tremaine, she doesn't need a love interest either, but in the movie of Shrek 5, I also want to see the rivalry between King Artie and Queen Anna because they both want to compete in a challenge to see who is the best monarch a of a kingdom, that is, the best ruler of a kingdom, because both want to do what is best for their own kingdom, because King Artie wants to do what is best for his kingdom called Far Far Away because now he is the new King of Far Far Away and Queen Anna wants to do the best for their kingdom called Arendelle because now she is the new Queen of Arendelle, but at the end of the movie of Shrek 5, King Artie and Queen Anna become best friends in the world, because at the end of the movie of Shrek 5, they both learned from their mistakes that they have made since their challenge to compete to see who is the best monarch of a kingdom, that is, the best ruler of a kingdom, and that at the end of the movie of Shrek 5, King Artie and Princess Guinevere see their first true love kiss and that they become a romantic couple, just like Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany, and also that at the end of the movie of Shrek 5, Maui, Hiccup Haddock, Kristoff Bjorgman, Jack Frost, Prince Lancelot and King Artie become the new official members of the Official Disney Princes, while Queen Anna, Princess Elsa, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Asha, Goldilocks, Namaari, Yi, Ruby Gillman, Anastasia Tremaine, Princess Tiffany and Princess Guinevere become the new official members of the Official Disney Princesses and that one day, Princess Tiffany will be the wife of Prince Lancelot and that they have a son and a daughter, that is, a family in the future, and that also Princess Guinevere is the wife of King Artie, that they also have a son and a daughter, that is, a family and that she becomes the new Queen of Far Far Away in the future.
I'm surprised Disney never bothers to go crazy with current IP's. Little Mermaid, for instance. There's Stephen Chow's movie that has a mermaid trying to assassinate a ceo. And Mermaid Melody that throws idols and magical girls into the mix. Aladdin. Time Princess has the Thief, the Genie, and the Prince be allies trying to uncover old secrets relating to the lamp and the royal family. The villain has a different motive and is more threatening. Cinderella has so many modern reinterpretations and the third movie was crazy fun with time-traveling shenanigans. I feel like Snow White is the biggest missed potential for the found-family dynamic better between Snow and the 7 Dwarves.
How do you "censor" one of the defining moments of one of the most iconic movies in history anymore than it's already been censored. Bambi's mom's death was already off screen, you can't censor it any more without completely cutting it out of the movie completely. I'll admit Bambi's mom dying was shocking although personally I didn't get the concept of her dying until I watched it again a few years later. Also, the kids Disney wants to censor Bambi further for, have already seen other works where one of the parents mostly the mom is killed off which is nothing new so they already understand death in some way so censoring it more just takes away the purpose of what Bambi is supposed to mean. Disney has had good remakes like Maleficent and Cruella which looked at the famous story they represent from a new perspective without hurting the original. However, taking away of the factors that made Bambi what it is will only taking away what it was supposed to mean.
Nowadays, the Disney live action remakes are the definition of insanity. Some of it was putting on a fun twist or whatever, but the most recent ones seem hellbent on making worse versions of the originals. And well, most of the realistic animals lack the stylized emotion that the animated characters have. It’s not just animals, it’s what they convey in certain scenes. I think hyper realistic Bambi emoting would be incredibly awkward, as a lot of the time, the movie is quiet, using expressions to convey mood. It’s not even an artistic choice, it’s the severe lack of it. As for problematic stuff, I see it as not needing to be removed. Heck, make the portrayals better, whatever. But we cannot approach these movies with a modern lense, but from a lense of the time period that it was made. I still love the original Peter Pan, and I can recognize that it was made and the story takes place in a different time period. Where yes, it was perfectly fine to depict tribes in this way. That girls were expected to embody their mothers and be homebodies, learn to sew and cook etc etc. That is totally fine! Because things change throughout the centuries, beliefs, what is okay and not okay, so on, and so forth. For those who erase history are doomed to repeat it. Disney keeps trying to erase its history with these god awful movies, out of a weird crusade to make up for faults in the past instead of accepting this was apart of their catalog and that this was a different decade in the history of the earth.
The only good remake is Cinderella 2005 or 2015 i think. And the other Peter Pan live action from like 2003 or smth was waaaay better. It added more character and craziness to tinkerbell and gave her messy hair to show how hyperactive she was. The movie never had dark lighting moments and even if there where we could still see the characters. They didnt make wendy taller than peter and had Wendy's hair down which is waaay better and they added the saddest ending plus the extended cut made the year after with wendy knowing she cant stay there forever and picked family over love but still dearly loved peter and in the extended bit with Peter meeting Jane and Old Wendy we see how sad he is. It was also a good choice to have the lost boys life with Wendy instead. Ans also the saddnes in hooks eyes as he watches Wendy and Peter dance in the wind majesticly. The only bit i didnt like about the movie was the part where they where in space zooming past the planets im being serious. And if i remember correctly they found a way to keep the natives in the movie without it being racist im pretty sure. And i hate the fact disney blackwashed Tinkerbell in the new one like why change our fav childhood characters completely like imagine if they whitewashed Tiana? The only exeption for me is Hallie Bailey she did i great job. In the second Peter pan movie they removed The Marilyn Monroe look from tink which i am not really happy about but still its amazing. If i could go back and change something in the First Peter Pan live action i would make tinkerbell a Marilyn Monroe lookalike. I JUST REALISED HOW MUCH I WROTE 💀
I noticed the Pinocchio remake in the B-roll. I was surprised they kept the anthropomorphic animals considering their realistic content of modern movies, stuff like no animal pyramids in the lion king.
Bambi is very different from a lot of the other movies of its time. You MEET the Mom. Other Movie Moms die off screen before the movie has even started. THEN she gets murdered. The characters just have to life with it. They don't get revenge or talk about it or nothing... Just harsh winter and then a very intense forest fire at the end. Meanwhile other movies have people being killed but bought back to life through magic and such like in Black Caldron or Hercules. I watched that movie once and never again. So if I had kids, I won't show it to them or even a 'toned down version'. Cause it's really not meant for them.
The ideas for these remakes keep getting worse and worse. First they act like the word “Dwarf” and relationships are bad, now they have the opposite of balls to not have Bambi’s mom die. Smh
Hot take: I really dislike Mushu maybe the dubbing didn't made it any favours, the voice was really annoying and the only joke I remember made me laugh was the "dishonor on you dishonor on your cow"
The only Disney remake that isn't an insult to the source material is Cinderella. The rest either failed to understand the story or were only using it as a springboard for political agendas.
Wait till you dive down the rabbit hole of the Bambi meets Godzilla fandom, its completely insane, deranged and it's even considered "one of the greatest cartoons" really? It's more like an abomination of animation and it permanently scarred me as a kid more than the actual death of Bambi's mum which made me find respect for the original.
I was actually excited for the new Bambi. After hearing his mother wouldnt die I gave up. This makes Bambi special. Its not Bambi anymore. These death scenes made you sad,.mad and shocked but it traumatized no one. Just a bunch of whiny helicopter moms that cant see the single drama. Also the writer is completely insane for making Bambi not Bambi anymore.
i feel like it's a meme, at this point. Disney makes a pointless stupid remake, people dislike it and ask themselves: "haha, what's next? A new Bambi?" *gets new s*itty Bambi. Same for Mulan, Peter Pan, The Little Marmaid...
I have mixed feelings about the remakes…some of them I actually enjoyed…especially the ones who added more to the story or gave us something new like how a villain became evil…others like Mulan should have never been made and just took away from the original If you want a good modern take on a classic story go watch SONY Pictures Cinderella…a fun twist with tons of music dancing and a very independent young woman lead who is as bold as Cinderella was in the Twist in Time third movie
Well to be hornest people die. Showing this in a movie and showing that lives goes on and can be good again is important. Children loose parents and maybe can relate and see live can be good again and maybe need exactly this. We have enough "everything is perfect" movies which are far from reality...
I have defended the Disney remakes because I do think half of the Disney remakes but the order half are just heinously awful but because they keep making the same mistakes over over again you think they learn from those mistakes now have given up them because they are never going to learn
If this is true, it will be right inline with most Disney live action remakes. They do not understand the point/core of the story/visuals/dialogue and characters so when they make changes it's always for the worse because they don;t know most of their choices are foil to the original story. Kind of like shitty AI bullshit, a computer can make pictures but it doesn't understand the artistic choice of humans make so you get uncanny valley results most of the time. Live action Disney is exactly the same thing. Also, I think they keep making them because people keep going to see them despite how much backlash the movies get. The nostalgia bait still works. People gotta stop going to see it in theaters, not even hate watching. Hate or not a ticket is a ticket to Disney. Gotta stop defending them too, Disney adults are their army when it comes to valid critism. Same with any corporation/media.
If you think they aren't then you have a problem, they aren't even caring about quality and respecting source material & the veteran fans like the first few LA movies.
If they are trying to be Woke, just imagine Bambi's mom getting captured instead of killed. Then Bambi turns gay and instead of falling for Faline, he will fall for Ronno (deer that originally was fighting for Faline too). Faline will stay strong, independant deer woman XD Or wait what if Bambi's mom was actually leader of deer herd instead of Bambi's dad? Then they will show Bambi's dad getting killed to show how ,,weak" he was and then Bambi's mom strong woman deer will be strong single mother taking care of Bambi bc his father failed XD
it is quite clear that whoever is greenlighting these remakes is legitimately insane. Isn't the definition for insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?
I'm sorry, but when you were talking about Bambi's mom, i remembered one meme that was the her page on a wiki, and it had a part that said "Goals: Protect Bambi (failed)" And it made me laugh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I disagree with you about Maleficent. Maleficent didn't work at all as a Remake, imo. The writer and director didn't understand the character of Maleficent at all. The entire point of Maleficent's character is that she's the Mistress of All Evil. She's evil and doesn't understand the concept of love or having a family. Plus, making Maleficent falling in love with King Stefan (Aurora's father) just doesn't makes sense, and just a plot device to force her to become evil. Terrible move. What they really should've done is explore Maleficent's character as a Guardian of thr Forest and why she's very protective of the forest. Plus, they didn't need Aurora at all. Just focus on Maleficent's character arc about her relationship with the forest and why she has a grudge against with King Stefan and Queen Leah without that terrible romance. Maleficent had potential to tell a complex and compelling villain arc story about Maleficent why she became the Mistress of All Evil, and why she hates King Stefan and Queen Leah. But no they wanted to ruin the character by making her a misunderstanding villain.
I think you people are overreacting to the remakes. I mean yeah, it’s understandable to be mad at how soulless they are, but you people need to stop acting like they’re the most heinous thing in the universe.
I mean, the remakes are almost entirely terrible. And when you are remaking a film, you are basically saying “This is the NEW and IMPROVED version that people will think of now. The old version doesn’t exist now”. So it’s not necessarily JUST that the films are bad that makes people infuriated, but the fact that Disney is effectively replacing classic films that are infinitely superior with low quality films that are more concerned with promoting an agenda than telling a good story.
@@kylewilson2819 They’re not really REPLACING them, we can still watch the originals. And besides, there are plenty of worse problems in the world than just bad movies.
@@meta527II Sure, but that doesn’t make it any less of a problem. Just cause other bad things are happening doesn’t mean we can’t complain. And yes, remakes DO replace originals. Look the “The Ten Commandments” for example. Did you know that the same director had made a film by the same name only a few years prior? The movie we all know now is actually a remake of that film.
@@kylewilson2819 How the heck do the remakes violate any of the Ten Commandments? And I wasn’t saying people shouldn’t complain about the remakes, I’m saying people should stop treating them like Hitler.
I feel like Bambi 2 is better than the kind of remakes Disney has been making, i mean, i love the theme song and I like the relationship developed between Bambi and his father and the growth they have.
I agree. I loved that movie as a kid. I think I remember people hating it, and I never understood why.
Direct-to-video sequels vs live-action remakes
Agreed.
Bambi (1942): A Timeless Masterpiece.
Bambi 2 (2006): A surprisingly good faithful midquel.
Bambi (Remake): A failed imitation of the original.
Bambi meets Godzilla: An abomination of animation and insult to the original Disney film and novel.
I also had hope for the remake to be good but now I'm worried Bambi's dad could be doomed. If he buys the farm then the film will fail and it will make me appreciate the midquel Bambi 2 and the original even more.
Bambi 2 is a Disney sequel done well
Granted, it's a mid-quel but, still
The live-action Disney movies are the definition of insanity: doing the same thing, over and over
You forgot part of the quto. That is except a diffrent out come
I am so confused with this. Yes, the death scene from Bambi traumatized a lot of children when it came out, but it was only the sixth disney movie ! Maybe people where not used to this in children cartoons, but today the dead parents is used so many times that it became a joke for the fans. And I don't understand how Bambi can be modernised when the entire movie takes place in a forest ? The hunters will use drones to track the animals instead of dogs ? Bambi will find a lost cell phone ? 😐
It’s a joke for the fans, because the fans are now older people who can understand the joke, this movie is also targeted towards little kids who didn’t grow up to understand the joke yet. It’s not just about seeing a real life dear gets shot behind their baby deer, but it’s also all the other scenes in the movie. Like the scene where the hunter came and started shooting all the animals while the animals were trying to hide and not panic. One of the birds panic and then the hunter shot them, and we literally saw their body fall to the ground and be limp as all the other animals run to safety and panic as they do it. It’s also the scene towards the end where Bambi is an adult and the whole forest is burning and you’re gonna see all these real life animals running around and catching on fire and screaming and panicking, it’s going to be a little more traumatizing than the cartoon version, that little kids probably have never seen. Also, when it comes to modernizing, I don’t think it’s obviously talking about cell phones, or whatever else you mentioned, the story is just going to be even more very heavily focused on the effects of hunting for fun, forest fires, and hunting Mothers with babies, and all that crap about nature
@@MaidenOfHusbands If I was asked to update Bambi, I would gave the female love-interests more personality. And not cut immediately to adult bambi after the death of his mom, the transition is kinda jarring in the cartoon.
The environmental message was already obvious in the original, but I fear the hunters will be shown in the remake, and they will be cartoonishly evil like cruella instead of being mysterious.
As much as Bambi's mother's death was so sad I cried. It was important to the story and also to show us about grief.
So... they take a movie about dealing with grief and growing up as an orphan... and then they remove the grief and make Bambi no longer an orphan?
That's not Bambi, that's a CGI nature documentary about deer made by a kid who doesn't know what death is
Disney wasn't afraid to kill Mufasa off again in The Lion King remake, which I think many would consider just as traumatic as the death of Bambi's Mom (if not more so because in The Lion King we actually get to see Simba curling up and crying next to his Dad's body). So I'm not sure what the difference is. The death of Bambi's Mother is emotionally fraught, but it isn't explicit. Nothing is shown, so I don't really see how it could be changed to make it more "modern" without removing it entirely. Which I definitely think would be a mistake. The idea that life is fleeting but love endures in many forms is the entire point. There's even a whole song about it. So I feel like it would be a different story if they downplayed or removed that critical moment.
I am a woman and I'm all for female empowerment, but I think it has gone too far in these and other big movies. It's great to let girls know that they don't have to just be a mother or play a motherly role, that they can be heroes too. I always wanted more of that in stories when I was growing up. But the way it's being done now doesn't make sense to me. It seems like they're saying women have to be like men to be heroes, that women can't be emotional or motherly, that those traits are bad and that you can't be a hero and have those traits. And some girls and women do want to be mothers, so taking away our examples of motherly women in films is also making it seem like wanting that is not as good as wanting to be a warrior or a scientist or whatever. When really, the message should be "you can be anything and whether it's a traditionally feminine thing or a traditionally masculine thing (or both or multiple different things) doesn't matter, just be yourself."
Exactly! I think the Cinderella did a really good job at this, her strength ultimately is kindness and compassion
There is this scenes from Anastasia (for thoses who know) where the villain openly talk about murder and horror before we seen his skeleton melt in our face. I forgot how 《child 》movie used to be like this...
Imagine they turn the villain soft and push away this type of violence... what is left ?
I disagree with the writing saying that Bambie’s death should be ‘censored’ or ‘modernised’, quite frankly people need to toughen up and stop being so god damn sensitive, children need to l arm about death, albeit in a tasteful way
True, most of us didn't even get severely traumatized after the movie. Because us kids know that death is part of life, that sometimes life is just unfair to people. I think the latest generation of kids can handle it! They can be tough too!
Not to mention it was already off-screen, how much more "censored" can they get?
@@cfudgy2 I was more disturbed by the scene in Winnie the Pooh where Rabbit merely got lost and was hearing things, than the scene where the mom dies
Although the death of Bambi's mother is heartbreaking for small kids, it was created to teach children how to deal with parental mortality in an emotional and realistic approach. It demonstrates how cruel life and the world can be. These films taught children how to deal with such emotions. It was Character-building experiences for the audiences for my generation. Bambi’s mother death scene is literally the main point of Bambi. It's the film's soul. The message is about family, loss, and moving on.
The only way Disney could make people not hate the live action Bambi as much is if they release it the same year as the horror movie version of Bambi. Yes there’s a horror movie version in the works by the same people that made Winnie the Pooh blood and honey which was just miserably bad.
Though it would be funny if it came out the same year and date as that monstrosity though. I just hope these horror adaptations flop, no one wants these movies.
How can you make a horror movie from one of the most coward and harmless animal?
I mean, if we don't talk about males in heat, then the female and her babies are harmless
Imagine if the awful horror movie did better than the Disney "live action"...
@@Josue_S_6411 I hope you didn't jink it and that doesn't happen
@@kbraven7007 I would find it funny if it happened
I'm a super big fan of bambi and it is devastating for me to keep hearing about this modern bambi. I was never traumatized by the animation. If anything I watched it a bazillion times and though it's still sad it's beautiful and taught me as a kid that many wild animals live a dangerous survival of the fittest type of life. It's real life and it was made in such a way to be appropriate for kids. The animation doesn't even show the death of Bambi's mom. It was executed with a gunshot, bambi searching for his mom, very sad music, and his dad telling him he couldn't be with his mother anymore. That isn't scary or traumatizing. Just super sad.
Exactly!!
I mean the first time I saw bambi I was a child a toddler, and cried...
Yet literally less than two days later I begged my parents to watch it AGAIN!
I watched it so much that the CD got scratched (meaning I watched it until it wasnt watchable), my parents brought a new one, and that got scratched as well.
Plus, Bambi is one of Walt Disney's personal favorites! It's about the coming-of-age of a young fawn living in the woods; dealing with life, love and also death.
Bambi's mother gave her life, so he can live. Take that away, and the story loses it's impact
The original novel of Bambi by Felix Salten was an adult novel (not for children) and the Mother passing away was in the novel too. Not having it in the reboot would be disrespectful not just the original Disney film but the original Felix Salten novel which is the source materiel so it would fail.
I would not however want to see a book faithful reboot of The Fox and The Hound as the original novel (which I loathe) is way too adult, dark and depressing as Schindler's List and it has a horrific downer ending, so it also wouldn't work and fail in my opinion as the Disney film is fine as it is.
The live actions are also getting what I call the girl boss treatment. The only way a female character can have good strengths is if she’s a headstrong leader or funny or something. Cinderella is my favorite because they diverted away from that and it made me so happy. Her strength is kindness. It sucks to see these female roles getting stuck into these stereotypes of a girl boss queen who isn’t traditionally feminine or might not be headstrong/a leader/whatever. I think they could’ve stuck with Wendy being a sort of mother figure, it’s definitely a strength to have that caring nature. But they could’ve tweaked it for the modern audience like Cinderella
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Hooray for Cinderella remake for being the only Disney remake movie to get it right
Disney much as I want them succeed I just don’t see that happening because they absolutely refuse to listen to actual fans and default to what the “woke” people believe. Thus removing any of the magic of the original and replacing it with just painful to watch story that not many people are going to want to watch
disney doesnt feel like disney anymore :( i think it ended at encanto
i cant wait to watch this video
Personally I think it ended at Tangled. After that it feels like they completely stopped innovating.
I think it ended wayyy earlier than that
Somewhere is that Steve Carrol gif playing in my head saying: "Oh god no! Please no!"
Imagine if they decide to remake The Ducktators 💀
I could see Iger being bold enough to pillage a WW2 Warner Bros. classic satire
I’m not gonna lie, I didn’t cry when Bambi’s mom died. I watched this movie once and thought it was boring as fuck. Do kids today even watch the older movies?
It's frustrating because they have good ideas, but never flesh them out. Lion King (2019) wanted a whole rivalry with Shenzi and Nala and I was up for it, but they dedicated no scenes to it to build it up. They look at each other once in one scene and then they fight one on one at the end like they'd been building up this hatred and it's like, what hatred? What rivalry? You never shared a word! It wasn't like Nala was the one who scratched your face cause Simba didn't even do it like in the original. They want Shenzi as this cold leader and it could've worked if they dedicated any time to it.
But no, they spent a good 5+ minutes following Simba's fur to reach Rafiki cause it cared more to jerk off to its technology than tell a story. Mulan they wanted it to be more serious, but they took out the songs, likeable characters, and replaced it with Mulan not needing to train or anything she's just better right out the womb. And I don't even get the 'be more realistic' and taking out Mushu cause all they did was add that witch lady that could turn into animals and stuff - so magic wasn't an issue? I don't understand why they take away what they think is broken, then never replace it with anything better.
Aladdin has this whole thing where it wants Jasmine to want to be a competent leader and care about politics, but then they still keep the scene where she doesn't know what paying for food is...? Like, if you're changing entire aspects of someone's character you have to change scenes. You can't just force them into the plot and have the plot lead them if the characters don't make sense. It's so irritating! So I have no idea what they'll do with Bambi because most people only remember the mom dying and if you take the most iconic scene out... (sorry for the long rant, I'm just confused by these choices)
What's worse about the Jasmine scene in the remake is that she refuses to take responsibility for her actions. In the original, she does understand how transactions work, but only took the apple because it's very easy to be absent-minded when you never had to buy anything. But even then, she apologizes and offers to go get money from the palace to make up for her mistake. This is a good moment because it shows that Jasmine knows when to swallow her pride, which makes sense because we know she hates being a princess.
I mean, fleshing out characters and removing offensive stereotypes is a reason for a remake, but I'm not sure what they'll do with Bambi.
But they never really do those things. That's the problem with these remakes. They're mostly just responding to some superficial complaints about "problems" that either never existed or weren't a big deal. The remakes just prove that Disney doesn't understand their own works. Like, they make Jasmine politically ambitious just for the sake of girlbossing her when she was already a girlboss in the original. And giving her political ambitions doesn't really add anything to her character, because the point of the character is that she's not interested in power, but freedom.
Same problem with Beauty and the Beast. Making Belle an inventor is a superficial change that adds nothing to her character.
Another problem is that these remakes remove all the character flaws of the protagonists. Like what they did to Mowgli in the Jungle Book remake. In the original he was rebellious and sometimes acted bratty, but he was still sympathetic because we understand that he only acts that way because he's in a very frightening situation where he has to leave the only home he's ever known and is also confused because he suffers from an identity crisis that stems from being human without knowing what a human is, hence his tendency to imitate other animals in attempt to identify with them. But in the remake, Mowgli is a complete Gary Stu who never faces any consequences or inner demons. He even stays in the jungle, which misses the point of the story.
They did the same thing with Simba in the Lion King remake. They removed all his immaturity, which deprives him of the opportunity to overcome it.
@@vetarlittorf1807 ai guess it depends on what they rhink people want. Some people criticized Jasmine for love being her main theme in the original--which it wasn't, but I guess I can see why people mistakenly think this--along with her and Aladdin being sexualized, so I appreciate the changes in that regard. Of course, the personality for Jasmine is STARKLY different in both versions.
Belle being an inventor is something Disney does seem to be toying around with in Lorcana as well. I hqae no issue with it since her intelligence could cover an interest in inventions given her father being one.
Cinderella was the golden standard for Disney remakes; Cinderella and the prince got more screentime and development--but sadly the music was removed (except on the album). Mulan, in contrast, is the worst one for me, what with the removal of music, Shang, Shan Yu (an underrated villain, but I do understand the concerns of the ethnic group), Mushu, etc. She's my favorite Disney princess, and it was a forgettable remake.
@@OpticalSorcerer I don't think Aladdin or Jasmine were sexualized. Just sexy. Other than the scene where Jasmine distracts Jafar, there was never really any scene where either of them flaunt their sexuality or any butt shots or anything like that. Heck, Aladdin doesn't even have nipples. Besides, Jasmine's apparel was basically what every teenage American girl wore in the 90's. If anything, Jasmine was more modest than contemporary young women since she didn't wear Capri pants or denim shorts.
When I think of sexualized, I think of something like what Joss Whedon did with Black Widow in the first Avengers movie, where he deliberately emphasized on her cleavage, butt and very feminine poses.
And I don't think Belle being an inventor adds anything. In the original, Belle started off as a well-read dreamer who wanted to escape into the fantasy worlds in her books because she was a social outcast. Then over the course of the film she grows in maturity thanks to her friendship and eventual romance with Beast. There isn't really any room for themes about inventions. Maurice is an inventor because it makes him stand out, not for plot reasons. If Disney wanted to do a movie about inventors, they could have just made a movie about Ben Franklin or something.
@@vetarlittorf1807 Aladdin was made to be purposefully sexy to appeal to a female audience, with his looks inspired by Tom Cruise. Neither his nor Jasmine's outfits fit the setting--and Blacl Widow is more along the lines of objectification than simple sexualization.
Belle being an inventor doesn't really add anything, but I do feel like it fits with her character--and I think she was an outcast because of her interest in fantasy moreso than the other way around. But that is something that frustrates me about the remake. While a small change, it's annoying that she went from reading fairy tales to Romeo & Juliet, I'm assuming to make her seem more practical than imaginative. I don't see why she can't love both.
@@OpticalSorcerer Doesn't fit the setting? Aladdin doesn't have a "real" setting. It's a fantasy land with middle eastern flavor. Disney has never really been authentic.
Some of them just lose the magic
I just hope that in the movie of Shrek 5, once Disney buys DreamWorks, all the Official Disney Princes and Princesses from their respective movies appear, especially all the characters from the movie of Rise of the Guardians, from the movies of Frozen, from the movies of How to Train Your Dragon, from the movie of Brave, from the movie of Tangled, from the movie of Moana, from the movie of Raya and the Last Dragon, from the movie of Encanto and the most important character in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea, Melody, the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, and besides, they will be the new main characters of the movie of Shrek 5 so that they help Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Goldilocks, the Three Bears, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and the others to defeat Rumpelstiltskin, Death, all the Official Villains of Disney and all the Official Villains of DreamWorks, as The Evil Queen, Lady Tremaine, Drizella Tremaine, Maleficent, Marina del Rey, Ursula, Gaston LeGume, Maestro Forte, Jafar, Sa'luk, Governor John Ratcliffe, Shan Yu, Dr. Facilier, Mother Gothel, Zhan Tiri, Te Kā, Tamatoa, the Red Death, Drago Bludvist, Grimmel the Grisly, Mor'du, Prince Hans, Pitch Black, the Druun, the Soldiers, Dr. Zara, Chelsea Van Der Zee, King Magnifico and Morgana, and to prevent Rumpelstiltskin, Death and the other Official Villains of Disney and DreamWorks from ruling and destroying the kingdom of Princess Fiona and King Artie called Far Far Away, Shrek along with his wife named Princess Fiona will need help from their new friends which are the Official Disney Princes and Princesses, as Prince Florian, Princess Snow White, Prince Charming, Princess Cinderella, Prince Philip, Princess Aurora, Prince Eric, Princess Ariel, Prince Adam, Princess Belle, Prince Aladdín, Princess Jasmine, Prince John Smith, Princess Pocahontas, Prince Li Shang, Princess Fa Mulan, Prince Naveen, Princess Tiana, Prince Flynn Rider, Princess Rapunzel, Maui, Queen Moana Waialiki, Hiccup Haddock, Princess Merida, Kristoff Bjorgman, Queen Anna, Jack Frost, Princess Elsa, Princess Raya, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Asha, Anastasia Tremaine, Namaari, Yi, Ruby Gillman and Melody, although in reality, Melody is the first and only that she is not a true Official Disney Princess along with Namaari and Anastasia Tremaine, because Anastasia Tremaine is not born of royalty, while, Namaari is an Unofficial Disney Princess and Melody made her debut in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea and it is also because she is the first and only daughter of an Official Disney Princess, but Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Goldilocks, the Three Bears, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle, and Felicia, the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and the others also need Anastasia Tremaine, Namaari and Melody's help to protect and save their kingdom called Far Far Away away from Rumpelstiltskin, Death and the other Official Villains of Disney and DreamWorks, because Anastasia Tremaine and Namaari are now good people and Melody is the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, but in the movie of Shrek 5, I also want to see the death of Queen Lillian, because since her husband named King Harold passed away in the movie of Shrek 3, she has felt heartbroken and that caused his own death in his kingdom called Far Far Away, and all the inhabitants of Princess Fiona and King Artie's kingdom called Far Far Away are saddened by the death of Queen Lillian, because now she is with her husband named King Harold in heaven, and now they have lost their queen, that means now the kingdom of Far Far Away needs a new queen and King Artie said that his love interest, girlfriend, fiancée and former classmate from Worcestershire school called Princess Guinevere would be the one to be the new Queen of Far Far Away, so King Artie decided to return to his old school called Worcestershire along with Shrek, with his older cousin Princess Fiona, with Donkey, with Dragon, with Puss in Boots, with Kitty Softpaws, with Perrito, with Goldilocks, with the Three Bears, with the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, with the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and with the others to meet again with their friends from their school who are actually Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany and their love interest, girlfriend and fiancée Princess Guinevere to take them back to their kingdom called Far Far Away, and in the movie of Shrek 5, I also want to see the romance of all the Official Disney Princes and Princesses from their respective movies, especially the romance of Maui and Queen Moana Waialiki, the romance of Hiccup Haddock and Princess Mérida, the romance of Jack Frost and Princess Elsa, the romance of Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany and the romance of King Artie and Princess Guinevere, because I think in the movie of Shrek 5, Maui will be Queen Moana Waialiki's love interest, boyfriend and fiancé, while Hiccup Haddock will be Princess Mérida's love interest and boyfriend, Princess Tiffany will be Prince Lancelot's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée and Princess Guinevere will be King Artie's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée, because Queen Moana Waialiki is going to fall in love with Maui, Princess Mérida is going to fall in love Hiccup Haddock, Princess Tiffany is going to fall in love with Prince Lancelot and Princess Guinevere is going to fall in love with King Artie, but they don't know how to tell them their feelings towards them and neither how to win their hearts, because every time Queen Moana Waialiki gets too close to Maui when it comes to true love, she gets very nervous with him, while which in the case of Princess Mérida is also the same, because whenever Princess Mérida gets too close to Hiccup Haddock when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous with him, in the case of Princess Tiffany it is also the same, because whenever Princess Tiffany gets too close to Prince Lancelot when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, and in the case of Princess Guinevere too, because every time Princess Guinevere gets too close to King Artie when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, but luckily for them, Princess Fiona will help Queen Moana Waialiki to win the heart of Maui, also Princess Mérida to win the heart of Hiccup Haddock, also Princess Tiffany to win the heart of Prince Lancelot and also Princess Guinevere to win the heart of King Artie, and I also want that in the movie of Shrek 5, Jack Frost will be Princess Elsa's love interest and boyfriend, because Jack Frost leaves fall in love with Princess Elsa, but he doesn't know how to tell her his feelings and how to win her heart, because every time Jack Frost gets too close to Princess Elsa when it comes to true love, he gets very nervous with her, but fortunately for him, Shrek will help Jack Frost to win the heart of Princess Elsa, except Princess Raya, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Asha, Goldilocks, Namaari, Yi, Ruby Gillman and Anastasia Tremaine, because now they will be the only Official Disney Princesses who do not need to have love interests and who can remain single forever, and I also say the same for Melody, the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, because like her adoptive aunts Princess Raya, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Asha, Goldilocks, Namaari, Yi, Ruby Gillman and Anastasia Tremaine, she doesn't need a love interest either, but in the movie of Shrek 5, I also want to see the rivalry between King Artie and Queen Anna because they both want to compete in a challenge to see who is the best monarch a of a kingdom, that is, the best ruler of a kingdom, because both want to do what is best for their own kingdom, because King Artie wants to do what is best for his kingdom called Far Far Away because now he is the new King of Far Far Away and Queen Anna wants to do the best for their kingdom called Arendelle because now she is the new Queen of Arendelle, but at the end of the movie of Shrek 5, King Artie and Queen Anna become best friends in the world, because at the end of the movie of Shrek 5, they both learned from their mistakes that they have made since their challenge to compete to see who is the best monarch of a kingdom, that is, the best ruler of a kingdom, and that at the end of the movie of Shrek 5, King Artie and Princess Guinevere see their first true love kiss and that they become a romantic couple, just like Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany, and also that at the end of the movie of Shrek 5, Maui, Hiccup Haddock, Kristoff Bjorgman, Jack Frost, Prince Lancelot and King Artie become the new official members of the Official Disney Princes, while Queen Anna, Princess Elsa, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Asha, Goldilocks, Namaari, Yi, Ruby Gillman, Anastasia Tremaine, Princess Tiffany and Princess Guinevere become the new official members of the Official Disney Princesses and that one day, Princess Tiffany will be the wife of Prince Lancelot and that they have a son and a daughter, that is, a family in the future, and that also Princess Guinevere is the wife of King Artie, that they also have a son and a daughter, that is, a family and that she becomes the new Queen of Far Far Away in the future.
I'm surprised Disney never bothers to go crazy with current IP's.
Little Mermaid, for instance. There's Stephen Chow's movie that has a mermaid trying to assassinate a ceo. And Mermaid Melody that throws idols and magical girls into the mix.
Aladdin. Time Princess has the Thief, the Genie, and the Prince be allies trying to uncover old secrets relating to the lamp and the royal family. The villain has a different motive and is more threatening.
Cinderella has so many modern reinterpretations and the third movie was crazy fun with time-traveling shenanigans.
I feel like Snow White is the biggest missed potential for the found-family dynamic better between Snow and the 7 Dwarves.
The new Snow white remake would never be close to be as good as Mirror, Mirror
How do you "censor" one of the defining moments of one of the most iconic movies in history anymore than it's already been censored.
Bambi's mom's death was already off screen, you can't censor it any more without completely cutting it out of the movie completely.
I'll admit Bambi's mom dying was shocking although personally I didn't get the concept of her dying until I watched it again a few years later.
Also, the kids Disney wants to censor Bambi further for, have already seen other works where one of the parents mostly the mom is killed off which is nothing new so they already understand death in some way so censoring it more just takes away the purpose of what Bambi is supposed to mean.
Disney has had good remakes like Maleficent and Cruella which looked at the famous story they represent from a new perspective without hurting the original.
However, taking away of the factors that made Bambi what it is will only taking away what it was supposed to mean.
Nowadays, the Disney live action remakes are the definition of insanity. Some of it was putting on a fun twist or whatever, but the most recent ones seem hellbent on making worse versions of the originals.
And well, most of the realistic animals lack the stylized emotion that the animated characters have. It’s not just animals, it’s what they convey in certain scenes. I think hyper realistic Bambi emoting would be incredibly awkward, as a lot of the time, the movie is quiet, using expressions to convey mood. It’s not even an artistic choice, it’s the severe lack of it.
As for problematic stuff, I see it as not needing to be removed. Heck, make the portrayals better, whatever. But we cannot approach these movies with a modern lense, but from a lense of the time period that it was made. I still love the original Peter Pan, and I can recognize that it was made and the story takes place in a different time period. Where yes, it was perfectly fine to depict tribes in this way. That girls were expected to embody their mothers and be homebodies, learn to sew and cook etc etc. That is totally fine! Because things change throughout the centuries, beliefs, what is okay and not okay, so on, and so forth. For those who erase history are doomed to repeat it. Disney keeps trying to erase its history with these god awful movies, out of a weird crusade to make up for faults in the past instead of accepting this was apart of their catalog and that this was a different decade in the history of the earth.
The only good remake is Cinderella 2005 or 2015 i think. And the other Peter Pan live action from like 2003 or smth was waaaay better. It added more character and craziness to tinkerbell and gave her messy hair to show how hyperactive she was. The movie never had dark lighting moments and even if there where we could still see the characters. They didnt make wendy taller than peter and had Wendy's hair down which is waaay better and they added the saddest ending plus the extended cut made the year after with wendy knowing she cant stay there forever and picked family over love but still dearly loved peter and in the extended bit with Peter meeting Jane and Old Wendy we see how sad he is. It was also a good choice to have the lost boys life with Wendy instead. Ans also the saddnes in hooks eyes as he watches Wendy and Peter dance in the wind majesticly. The only bit i didnt like about the movie was the part where they where in space zooming past the planets im being serious. And if i remember correctly they found a way to keep the natives in the movie without it being racist im pretty sure. And i hate the fact disney blackwashed Tinkerbell in the new one like why change our fav childhood characters completely like imagine if they whitewashed Tiana? The only exeption for me is Hallie Bailey she did i great job. In the second Peter pan movie they removed The Marilyn Monroe look from tink which i am not really happy about but still its amazing. If i could go back and change something in the First Peter Pan live action i would make tinkerbell a Marilyn Monroe lookalike. I JUST REALISED HOW MUCH I WROTE 💀
Even the Phoenix means different things in different Chinese culture. And that's symbolic phoenix looked everywhere in the whole Mulan remake
I noticed the Pinocchio remake in the B-roll. I was surprised they kept the anthropomorphic animals considering their realistic content of modern movies, stuff like no animal pyramids in the lion king.
I remember nothing about Bambi except that his mom died.
Bambi is very different from a lot of the other movies of its time. You MEET the Mom. Other Movie Moms die off screen before the movie has even started. THEN she gets murdered. The characters just have to life with it. They don't get revenge or talk about it or nothing... Just harsh winter and then a very intense forest fire at the end.
Meanwhile other movies have people being killed but bought back to life through magic and such like in Black Caldron or Hercules.
I watched that movie once and never again. So if I had kids, I won't show it to them or even a 'toned down version'. Cause it's really not meant for them.
The ideas for these remakes keep getting worse and worse. First they act like the word “Dwarf” and relationships are bad, now they have the opposite of balls to not have Bambi’s mom die. Smh
Hot take: I really dislike Mushu maybe the dubbing didn't made it any favours, the voice was really annoying and the only joke I remember made me laugh was the "dishonor on you dishonor on your cow"
The only Disney remake that isn't an insult to the source material is Cinderella. The rest either failed to understand the story or were only using it as a springboard for political agendas.
I liked that they did add more depth to Hook in Peter Pan and Wendy
Iger vs. Chapek is often what causes issues
If they’re so worried about showing children death, then make the movie PG-13 or R so the kids won’t get their hands on it.
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They didnt wanted to take a piss
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SNL did a parody skit about a live action Bambi years ago and THATS probably going to be more entertaining than this
Wait till you dive down the rabbit hole of the Bambi meets Godzilla fandom, its completely insane, deranged and it's even considered "one of the greatest cartoons" really? It's more like an abomination of animation and it permanently scarred me as a kid more than the actual death of Bambi's mum which made me find respect for the original.
#BringBackAnimitedDisneySequles
Smarty Pants "I'm not going to give these films the benefit of the doubt anymore."
I suppose that counts as character development
Don’t know where the Director is coming from but down we hunt deer for food not for sport. My mouth is already watering for those deer sausage. Yum 😋
I was actually excited for the new Bambi. After hearing his mother wouldnt die I gave up. This makes Bambi special. Its not Bambi anymore. These death scenes made you sad,.mad and shocked but it traumatized no one. Just a bunch of whiny helicopter moms that cant see the single drama. Also the writer is completely insane for making Bambi not Bambi anymore.
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Disney's guts killed children in bands.😱live-disney tone down the Re-boot movie for disney 😒😒😒
The live action Disney remakes are unwatchable they’re just soulless cash grabs that are same cgi abominations!
i feel like it's a meme, at this point. Disney makes a pointless stupid remake, people dislike it and ask themselves: "haha, what's next? A new Bambi?" *gets new s*itty Bambi. Same for Mulan, Peter Pan, The Little Marmaid...
I have mixed feelings about the remakes…some of them I actually enjoyed…especially the ones who added more to the story or gave us something new like how a villain became evil…others like Mulan should have never been made and just took away from the original
If you want a good modern take on a classic story go watch SONY Pictures Cinderella…a fun twist with tons of music dancing and a very independent young woman lead who is as bold as Cinderella was in the Twist in Time third movie
Huh is right
Honestly I thought this movie's plot would be too simple and boring for modern audiences for it to be remade.
Well to be hornest people die. Showing this in a movie and showing that lives goes on and can be good again is important. Children loose parents and maybe can relate and see live can be good again and maybe need exactly this. We have enough "everything is perfect" movies which are far from reality...
I have defended the Disney remakes because I do think half of the Disney remakes but the order half are just heinously awful but because they keep making the same mistakes over over again you think they learn from those mistakes now have given up them because they are never going to learn
If this is true, it will be right inline with most Disney live action remakes. They do not understand the point/core of the story/visuals/dialogue and characters so when they make changes it's always for the worse because they don;t know most of their choices are foil to the original story. Kind of like shitty AI bullshit, a computer can make pictures but it doesn't understand the artistic choice of humans make so you get uncanny valley results most of the time. Live action Disney is exactly the same thing.
Also, I think they keep making them because people keep going to see them despite how much backlash the movies get. The nostalgia bait still works. People gotta stop going to see it in theaters, not even hate watching. Hate or not a ticket is a ticket to Disney. Gotta stop defending them too, Disney adults are their army when it comes to valid critism. Same with any corporation/media.
If you think they aren't then you have a problem, they aren't even caring about quality and respecting source material & the veteran fans like the first few LA movies.
If they are trying to be Woke, just imagine Bambi's mom getting captured instead of killed. Then Bambi turns gay and instead of falling for Faline, he will fall for Ronno (deer that originally was fighting for Faline too). Faline will stay strong, independant deer woman XD Or wait what if Bambi's mom was actually leader of deer herd instead of Bambi's dad? Then they will show Bambi's dad getting killed to show how ,,weak" he was and then Bambi's mom strong woman deer will be strong single mother taking care of Bambi bc his father failed XD
Be careful what you say, they might actually do it 😅😅😅
Disney has shocked us in ways we thought they never would.
@@suenicole8979They'd do that anyway.
She technically was independent cause the father raises a herd, but Disney probably ignored that
Disney live action remakes are traumatizing. The only good remake is The Jungle Book 2016
No. Cinderella is the only good one.
it is quite clear that whoever is greenlighting these remakes is legitimately insane. Isn't the definition for insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?
The only reason people remember Bambi is that scene. Remove it, and all you have left is a boring bland nature documentary.
I'm sorry, but when you were talking about Bambi's mom, i remembered one meme that was the her page on a wiki, and it had a part that said "Goals: Protect Bambi (failed)"
And it made me laugh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I disagree with you about Maleficent. Maleficent didn't work at all as a Remake, imo. The writer and director didn't understand the character of Maleficent at all. The entire point of Maleficent's character is that she's the Mistress of All Evil. She's evil and doesn't understand the concept of love or having a family. Plus, making Maleficent falling in love with King Stefan (Aurora's father) just doesn't makes sense, and just a plot device to force her to become evil. Terrible move. What they really should've done is explore Maleficent's character as a Guardian of thr Forest and why she's very protective of the forest. Plus, they didn't need Aurora at all. Just focus on Maleficent's character arc about her relationship with the forest and why she has a grudge against with King Stefan and Queen Leah without that terrible romance. Maleficent had potential to tell a complex and compelling villain arc story about Maleficent why she became the Mistress of All Evil, and why she hates King Stefan and Queen Leah. But no they wanted to ruin the character by making her a misunderstanding villain.
I disagree with you
I think you people are overreacting to the remakes. I mean yeah, it’s understandable to be mad at how soulless they are, but you people need to stop acting like they’re the most heinous thing in the universe.
I mean, the remakes are almost entirely terrible. And when you are remaking a film, you are basically saying “This is the NEW and IMPROVED version that people will think of now. The old version doesn’t exist now”. So it’s not necessarily JUST that the films are bad that makes people infuriated, but the fact that Disney is effectively replacing classic films that are infinitely superior with low quality films that are more concerned with promoting an agenda than telling a good story.
They are the most heinous thing in the universe, this is the only entertainment we have anymore and everything is coming out bullshit😭
@@kylewilson2819 They’re not really REPLACING them, we can still watch the originals. And besides, there are plenty of worse problems in the world than just bad movies.
@@meta527II Sure, but that doesn’t make it any less of a problem. Just cause other bad things are happening doesn’t mean we can’t complain. And yes, remakes DO replace originals. Look the “The Ten Commandments” for example. Did you know that the same director had made a film by the same name only a few years prior? The movie we all know now is actually a remake of that film.
@@kylewilson2819 How the heck do the remakes violate any of the Ten Commandments? And I wasn’t saying people shouldn’t complain about the remakes, I’m saying people should stop treating them like Hitler.