Me 262: Aircraft of the New Era
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- Опубликовано: 19 мар 2024
- World War 2 pushed piston engine aircraft to their absolute limit, with engineers all around the world coming up with ingenious solutions to make them better in every conceivable way. By the end of the war, though, piston planes ran into a wall they couldn’t break through: at that point, laws of physics prevented them from being optimized any further. In order to get better results, you needed aircraft of a completely new type. That’s right: today we’re talking about the ways you can get the most out of the first ever operational jets of the Messerschmitt 262 family!
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3:55 the 50mm variant WAS designed specifically for bomber hunting, you just have it designated as an attack aircraft.
EXACTLY!
Don't tell Gaijen that, they don't like being wrong.
@@LunarKn1ght True, but I think they knew when they added it.
Well it makes sense when it comes to balancing, but yeah your right.
@@dariusjacobi4573 I don't know if it's balancing. For the German tree all they have to do is put it under interceptor. Unless I'm forgetting something that they get as a ground attacker.
0:53 yeah it can "sometimes" face them
For real. What a ridiculous statement by them. This thing is PERMANENTLY facing vehicles it never met irl.
Sometimes? More like ALWAYS
I feel like the script here should've gone; "It can SOMETIME meet late piston fighters. But more than often, faces vehicles from the late 1950's!"
@@GHOST_CROATIAare we going to talk about WW2 tanks meeting Marder IFVs? Or the fact that VBC is higher than both Marders despite not having any ATGM?
@@sushmitriyanbasuli6889nope guess not 🤷♂️
Basement guy, if you are being held hostage. Show a M3A3 Bradley in the next video and we will send a rescue team.
Good idea
Get the halicopter to do that
Everyone like this COMMENT WE NEED THE SIGN SO WE CAN RESCUE HIM
3:31 “It’s the same plane, but we made a second one and moved it up in the BR ladder kek”
6:12 that’s a lie, plain and simple the Su-11 is insanely busted and the 262 is unplayable most of the time.
1800 kilograms of thrust vs almost 2300 kilograms of thrust, yup, it has the gaijin balance approval
Agreed. The su11 is typical russian bias
Agreed. The su11 is typical russian bias
its cool to see people saying this finally I have been saying for years that the 262 is unplayable and everyone says "nuh uh" never played su11 so cant comment on its performance
"c-2b is just like it's predecessor"
yeah now uhh, dodge this 15g missile and try to chase the transonic jets that launch it
that is completely fair gameplay according to gaijin, love how they say down tiers are most common and is the main types of battles, but they specifically made it to where up tiers are 70% of your playtime.
Ikr???
In Warthunder (RB), the Me 262 mostly faces Post War Jet designs which heavily outclass it due itself having lackluster performance ingame. Its to slow, accelerates too slow, cant maneuver...
Yes, they should be against ww2 planes only, such as the meteor and other prop planes
it had lackluster performance in everything other than speed realistically, which gets nullified by carrying bombs
It would be too annoying to deal with with WW2 props, plus the War Thunder version is better than the real version because it can’t get compressor stalls.
Which postwar jets? Because all but one of the 262s are from 6.7-7.3, where they face late war piston engine planes, or other WWII jets.
Matchmaking and Br broken...
By the time you actually get to fly the ME 262 you are already at BR 7 and fighting cold war era jets. Nowhere near the fastest plane in the sky. It should be at BR 6
The Me 262A should be moved the 6.7 or 6.3
Tbh Cold War and ww2 should be balanced and Br separately
The he162 is pretty balanced at 6.0, I think the basic 262 would do good at 6.7
The "Spitfighter F Mk24" is the ONLY piston aircraft at 7.0+. There are 22 Jets at 8.0 that the Me 262 often gets uptiered in. THIS IS NOT FAIR MATCHMAKING.
wdym uptiered i always see me262 at br5.7
@@Crackerwithcheese01 You are seeing the U-4 varient. This is the anti tank / anti bomber varient. Its not that good against fighters. I am talking about the Me 262 A-1. This one is a fighter/bomber hunter and is very optiered in most matches. The A-1 is a ww2 plane going against Post war and korean war jets. Thats not fair would you not agree?
War thunder can i get 1 golden eagle? GattrozxMago
You can have a half one
No xd
Nothing can you do with 1 GE. You need to give your soul to get loove from lord snail.
I think that's a great idea. Someone give this man a GE
Get this guy a golden eagle!!!
4:13 minengeshoss is the HE ammunition used for hitting soft targets and only pens 11mm of armour at the most
no 4 take it or leave it and if you use default ammo you can pen 6 mm
Ah the Me 262, impressive in WWII but still possible to fight, sees Korean and Vietnam era jets in War Thunder. It's like the Sabers and MiG-15s, they were super fun when introduced, but Gaijin doesn't care about them, while ironically instructing their social media department to make videos on them. Why not have weekly events where you can fly them and be rewarded while having fun, or fix the matchmaker and make large enough gaps in the BRs so they don't face impossible odds?
Real and true
Whoever wrote this script needs to be fired. I have never once flown the normal (non tank buster) ME-262 that was not up against korean / cold war era jets. The battle ratings of vehicles in this game are arbitrary and clearly favor premiums. This is especially egregious in the German air tree around 7-9.3.
The Me 262A should be moved the 6.7 or 6.3
all the 262s are on too high BR
Exactly 1 battle on five i play versus prop plane in 7.0
yes, it needs to be at 6.7 or 6.3
The ME 262 is one of the most beautiful aircraft of world war 2
one of the most beautiful aircraft in the world.
Maybe I just can't extract it from the circumstances of its construction, but I disagree.
yes, it just looks a lil chubby from the back
0:53 Sometimes? You face a couple of superprops in 20% of the times. This is always facing way superior aircraft. No way this stands a chance against a La-200
The Me 262A should be moved the 6.7 or 6.3
0:48 IS A LIE. You are always fighting with better and faster jets. I only see one Spitfire every two matches.
The Me 262A should be moved the 6.7 or 6.3
What fun fact from this video and in the game is Su-9 and Su-11 have lower BR and perform better than Me262. I wont call it russian bias.
German players are just far more skilled than the human wastes of air flying su11. Only logical explanation
0:49 IN WARTHUNDER U JUST ENCOUNTER OTHER JETS THAT ARE WAY BETTER THAN YOUR AND IS THE SAME BR AND HARDLY EVER U ENCOUNTER PISTON AIRCRAFTS
The Me 262A should be moved the 6.7 or 6.3
I think I can say on behalf of many that we would be much happier if you concentrated on combat vehicles of the Second World War or the era before that.
BS it mainly fights late piston aircraft in game. EVERY match I play the squadron varient in (same BR as the early) I go against other early Jets which beat the german ones because theyre post war fighters.
The Me 262A should be moved the 6.7 or 6.3
@partyrex1 262 A and 50mm version should be 6.3 and the squadron version 6.7 with the C1 as 7.0 and the double rocket booster 7.3
Where is the Ju-287, been waiting for it since 2014
"Hear me out"
I mean, the soviets also have jet designer bombers like the IL-28
The only viable 262 is the Jabo because you get a air spawn, but don't expect down tiers or surviving other jets, its just outperformed by them
How about u Rank the ME262 with Planes of the SAME era
And not with Fighter Jets built 40 years later
Awesome. To say the Me 262 is legendary would be an understatement. ❤️🔥
The 262 family is a *BASED* plane, only prob is that for the best one you go on 8.0 and basically always up tiered to 9.0 that have far more capable jet than that, if you guys put a virtual limit on the era of vehicle did you encounter instead of br like 1944 to 1946 along br in that case i would use it, but otherwise no chance (i have 262 a1 and the c1 and don't even using that 😂)
my ass fights piston aircraft lmao you go against su11 every match
The Me 262A should be moved the 6.7 or 6.3
I love the ease of use of the A1/U1, with it’s different cannon ballistics, but the A1a’s rockets are particularly useful in Arcade 9.3 paired with the Switz Hunter, so I can flare missiles AND outturn all the jets, yet still are faster than an A-10, though for them, I reserve them the Bf 110 G2 treatment, y’know, easy money
Me-262 H1 & H2 When?
H3 pls
First this rocket booster Me262 were never build , instead you should add the HG1 and HG2 . Wich were tested at the end of WW2 , also the Coelian wooden mockup had the twin 55mm (Gerät58) guns . And not the 37mm , they were planned but later thrown away .
The C-1 and C-2 were both built as single prototypes. Of the high-speed 262s, only the HG I was built.
@@Tom-jw7ii HGII Was built and completed too.
@@aceofluftwaffe6444 Perhaps partially built. Certainly not completed. If they actually finished building it, chances are they would’ve test-flown it, but they never did. Even then, I’d argue you can’t even call an aircraft design complete until you’ve actually demonstrated that it works.
@@Tom-jw7ii The aircraft was completed, the Flight test was planned, however, as the aircraft rolled down the taxi way on test-flight day, it collided with another aircraft, the damage couldn't be fixed by the end of the war.
@@aceofluftwaffe6444 If that's true, I haven't seen any good evidence for it. At most it had a test flight planned, but that doesn't mean it was finished, and I've also never seen anyone provide a primary-source document for that, just a random unsourced scan from a book which is quite poorly translated. Even then, the book never claims it was fully completed, just that it was damaged sometime between being ready for assembly and being test flown, and then abandoned.
7:08 I like the jabo the most, mainly because the anti air rockets and ground pounding capabilites
The 50mm variant is definitely my favourite
still waiting for the me262 hg 2 which was in the original plans for the german air tech tree
ME262 HG Series!!!! It was passed to the developers but never implemented
These aircraft are at a BR that nearly makes them unplayable as they are just targets for the much faster Korean and Vietnam-era jets.
The A-1 is pretty hopeless when stock, but once you unlock more of the modifications you can find some success. If you skirt around and avoid attacking enemies on equal footing, there’s still usually enough opportunities to get a few kills every match. That’s kinda the optimal strategy with most planes anyway.
@@Tom-jw7iiso basically play as a rat and only attack unaware players...
Regarding the Variants... Warthunder barely scratched the surface. There were many more and some of which could make for unique additions into the Game, like the HG-I and HG-II or the Two-Seater Nightfighter/Trainer Variant
Me 262 hg when?
Gaijin when will you add bomber cockpit models. We’ve been waiting for years
Idk man the devs didn t talked to my greate greate grandpa.
He never faced with his 262 F86 somehow with aim9B
Jabo! In the last 7 weeks of WWII. R4Ms demonstrated a significant increase in Me-262 lethality use against bomber.
You guys should make developer diaries again, maybe your work would be more appreciated too. Show all the work you do
There really needs to be more camos for the Me262s. The default camos are great but there are so many awesome ones from history.
Also, HG series when?
Could try to get that cherry blossom skin for the A1
I love how as a big company, gaijins not going to listen to a single comment and will refuse to buff it until they have made sure that every single player in the whole game wants that and then wait another 2 years to actually buff it
The A-1a is my favorite variant of the 262
Q: Will you ever add the me 262 a-2a/u2 variant?
Is it possible that the PS4 version of the game will soon have options like custom gun sights and skins? By connecting the account to a computer you could then enable this like with the computer version.
i needed this cus i just got the squadron me 262
Will you ever add the Me 262 HGI and HGII?
what is the difference between the I16 type 18 and the I16 type 24, they seem to have the same stats
I still want event only vehicles. Wolfenstein b-1/2 jet fighter sound fun.
How can you get that camo for the A-1a in the video at 0:40?
Wasn't technically the meteor the first operational jet fighter but the me-262 was the first fighter to enter combat
Please ad the me 262 night fighter radar version
I wanna see Hg III ver on Thunder
I think Me262A-1a/jabo is the best(RB). Its can spown in the air.
2:05 guys april 1 is still few days away...
HG variants, when!?
As a person that just sw their first 262 in Air battles i approve.
Just got my first 262 (its the u1 squadron)
Gaijin, where is the He-280?
Sounds like y’all got Gary Sinese off of Temu
The Schwalbe is one of my favorite planes. So sad that its basically useless in War Thunder. Exept the Pulkzerstörer in Ground RB.
When will the heinkel HE 280 be added?
the us jet in 5.3: huh? Huh? Huuuuuuuuh??
lower 262 br please, why would i pair pattons, bulldog and marder with the 262. it should be in my 6.7 lineup with tiger 2.
They have to use the robot voice because telling lies like it "sometimes faces more powerful jets" would cause any human to burst out in laughter.
True
Me262 vs Meteor event when? :3
Will we ever see the fv433 abbot in game
Wow i saw this 15 seconds after uploaded.
cool want a cookie🍪?
@@ichosolemanuel6048 sorry im not familiar with what that entirely means
Oh mighty Snail, can we get the Me262 HG series as premiums?
Devs, give us Up-tier bombers. I’d like a B-ONE
The Pulkzerstörer was designed to destroy allied bombers. It wasnt a strike Aircraft
262 Attack the D Point!
I prefer the Me-262 A-1/U4 (Robaindb)
would have been cool to play if it wasnt for the fact that its fights other post war jets that are exclusively better then it
And yet your BR compression constantly pits the 262 against post-war jets and early guided AA missiles!
I'll add the comment made on the original Me262 video. Why not add the Heinkel He280?
Da big boi cannon
And yet only thing you get a hit After a 16 kg burst to the enemy cockpit
day 98 of waiting for Polish-Czechoslovakian or Polish-Czechoslovakian-Yugoslavian tech tree
Add M7 Priest!!!! Plz
My favorite is the one whit 50mm gun
A1-U1 by far.
Probably the best armament, and because its a squadron vehicle, its basically free.
Interesting
Gaijin please give us new much bigger maps for high tier ground games!!
The new map is nice but top tier should have big maps not cqc most of the time
I haven’t made it to any of them yet 😢
12th time asking for Churchill avre, bishop 25 pounder, avro Vulcan and Cromwell II/Centaur
Use rockets for boom and zoom
narwal is the best varient
A-10 super bolt! What Eva!!! It's all good. Roa Aotearoa nui.
Imagine using jet fighters
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0:52 biggest lie ever
Don’t worry, they think the Su-9 and Su-11 was copied from the me-262 that uses the same engine
The Me 262A should be moved the 6.7 or 6.3
Hey, I accidentally bought a premium with all my golden eagles and it’s the lowest ranking premium, so now I have only 46 ge
I'm not sure what jets yhr Schwalbe can outturn that easily, but ok
This would be a great aircraft if it didn't face korean war planes with early missiles
Why am i even typing this, we all know you wouldn't read it
The only way this thing was ground breaking was when it hit the ground
Q: can you please add the super tucano as an april fools event vehicle
"Sometimes" face other Jets. lmao.
and im still at br 5.7
Me262 also the first jet of 80% Players in the game lol
Part 5 of asking gaijin to remove wyvern s mk4