STACKER RINGS PART 2... How to Solder Stacker Rings "Tricks of the Trade"
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Learn how to correctly solder stacker rings together using easy techniques demonstrated by Designer Craftsman Jeweler, Greg Greenwood. Silver soldering from simple stacked rings to finished inner silver bands, Greg takes the mystery out of what seems to be complicated processes. You will learn a few technique "tricks of the trade" and have a final "Challenge" from Greg. Great jewelry making tutorial for silver soldering techniques. STACKER RINGS PART 1 • STACKER RINGS PART 1: ...
Hey Greg. Ya doin' alright?
I'm probably like most folks who watch your tutorials, I'll sometimes see new a new technique or styling idea which will cause me to pause and say to myself, 'hmm, that's pretty cool'. The "Tricks Of The Trade" video had one of those great solutions to pendant/bail predicament I've been having. You see, I don't draw plans or sketches of the pieces I make. Sometimes I'll get an idea or notion for a new cabochon I may have recently finished, and began selecting what I'll likely want to use (wire, sheet, tools etc.). Now it is time for me to listen for how the cab was to be dressed. Yea, I know it might sound kind of weird, but I'm self-taught and that's just the way it worked out for me. Shortly into the build, the design had changed several times before it was satisfied. Then the darn thing gave me the silent treatment.
You know, I believe the bail design can make or break a piece. It's kind of like buying a beautiful evening dress for your wife, and then accessorizing it with a pair of Converse All Stars. I think you get the picture. That's where thing was headed, or the scrap jar. So, I put away to think about it for a spell.
A week or so passed, then at 1:30 A.M. on the 2nd of February I saw this tutorial. EUREKA! I said to myself and went directly into my little studio and in less than 20 minutes had crafted the solution. That dress now has lovely shoes too. Thanks for your videos, Greg. I hope I'll always spot something in your tutorials which I can add to my toolbox.
Hello G, Thank you for your great story! I know exactly what you are talking about. I've sat on pieces until they speak to me too. I am very happy I was able to help you with the bail. Check out my video "15 Ways to Attach a Jewelry Pendant". I think you will find some more "lovely shoes". Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions ore comments in the future. I am here to help. Thanks for watching. Greg Greenwood
Great work Greg!!!
I am a tinker and work in wood, leather, metals and have started looking at making some jewelry.
I really appreciate the way you present the steps using real world projects.
So many of the skills can be used in other media.
Super love the "fidget" ring. I know one gift my daughter will be getting for her birthday.
Thank you for sharing
Hello David, Glad you are getting into jewelry. You will love it. I know your daughter will love her ring!!! Keep watching Greg Greenwood
@Greg Greenwood binge watched most of your videos over the last few days, all good stuff. Can't wait for the next one.
Hello David, Thanks for the binge watch!! Glad you are enjoying them. Thanks again for watching. New Nature Design video coming VERY SOON. (Dragon Flies) Thanks Greg Greenwood
Thanks Greg! I'm having fun and learning so much from your videos. Love your teaching technique. These look fun!
Hello Ann, Great to hear! Yes, they are fun! Enjoy. Greg Greenwood
So glad I found your channel. Great easy to follow inspirational videos. Thank you so much
Hello Joy, I am glad you found my channel too! Thank you for your kind comments. Keep watching. Greg Greenwood
Hello Greg, het well soon. Always Nice video’s!
Thanks gerard, I can't wait to get better and make more videos. Glad you are enjoying my videos. Greg
I’m so glad I stumbled upon your channel, Greg. I’m a beginning jewelry maker and still have a ways to go in learning just the basics. Your videos are so clear and well filmed, and you’re a natural teacher, so I can’t begin to tell you how thankful I am for your generosity. Do you ever work in mixed metals? Sterling, copper and bronze or brass? I understand they all have different melting points and solder flow temps, and I’d love to know how you handle that when soldering a piece. I’m glad you are out of hospital and on the mend. Hope you’ll be able to score a vaccine soon. I think we can all agree the sooner life can return to pre-COVID the better.
Hello Vgudorf, I am glad you found my channel too! Thank you for your kind comments. Yes, I do work in mixed metals. When you are soldering the mixed metals, you can use the silver solder to solder them together. Try to make your copper, brass metal seams very tight so the solder does not show as much. The melting temperatures should not hurt the metals that you use. Go to it and enjoy. Thanks for your concern about me mending soon. I am feeling great and am better every day. Also, I did score my vaccine shot last week and am looking forward to the second shot soon. Stay safe and we will make it through. Thanks for your questions. Let me know how it goes. Greg Greenwood.
Hello!
To make a spinner ring:
1) solder onto the band one outside ring
2) paint rouge or secretary’s White Out on the inside rings, to block solder flow
3) mount the inside rings onto the band
4) solder the other outside ring onto the other side of the ring
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Alternative:
This requires no soldering of the edge rings, but is more difficult.
Using the steel ball tool, forge the edges of the wide inside band to create an even raised edge which then holds the free-spinning inside rings in place.
Thanks for this interesting and easy to understand set of videos.
Kindest regards,
Robert
Hello Robert, Excellent methods for making the spinner ring! Good job. Thank you for your kind comments. If you are using White Out for the anti flow material, then you may want to check out my 2 videos: "How to Not Melt Silver Solder - Parts 1 & 2" . I am glad I can help you. If you have any questions in the future, please feel free to let me know. Greg Greenwood
Hi Greg, I picked up some ideas from you again. I've made 2 spinner rings before seeing your video. My first one I have a square wire plain and a flower pattern wire on a textured band and they spin well. My second ring is thinner with 2 spinners one plain and the other is twisted wire, but I made those too small and when I flared my band it tightened them so they don't spin.
But hey I don't mind, I'm still learning and they both turned out great. With your video I have more ideas. As for soldering I like the one side at a time. So I'd do what you did 🙂 Thanks again. Have a wonderful day.
Hello Dawn, I am very glad I can help you. Sounds like you are doing a great job and learning as you go. Keep it up. Thanks for your comments. Greg Greenwood
Hi Greg! Thank you so much for taking the time to share your knowledge! I love watching your videos, they are inspiring and so well explained. And I love all the designs you displayed, especially the ring that had moving parts within. I found it fun and original. For your quiz, my guess would be to solder 2 rings on the bottom of the sheet ring and then turn it around to solder the other 2 rings. I would love to see a video where you explain different ways to add a small gem to a stacking ring, or a small silver shape. Looking forward for your next videos. Take good care and stay healthy!
Thanks Iris, I really appreciate your comments. Sounds like your soldering job will work great!! Thanks also for the suggestion for new videos. Will do. Please stay healthy also!! Greg
THANK YOU! fantastic video as usual.
Hello Shirine, Thank you. My pleasure! Keep watching! Greg Greenwood
Thank you for your explanation. I Love your classes. I world like to ser a tour in your Studio and how you can organize all your tools.
Hello Beatriz, Thank you for your kind comments. I will be doing a studio tour in the future. If you have any questions in the future, please feel free to let me know. Keep on watching. Thanks Greg Greenwood
Thank you very much for this video. As a novice it is difficult to find these first guidance lessons. I had made several stacker rings and ran into all the problems you can imagine especially with soldering twisted wire! I couldn’t get the joint to stay after soldering and trying to hammer into shape it would split. Thank you for solving several mysteries for us all! Please keep the videos coming. Your videos are concise, well paced and well shot. Thank you so much.
Hello Vestacha, You are more than welcome! I am very happy that I can solve some of your mysteries. When you first start out in this wonderful jewelry field, it can be frustrating. If you have any questions, let me know. I am here to help. Thank you for your kind comments. I really appreciate it. Keep watching! Greg Greenwood
Greg...excellent channel. In these 2 short videos you have answered most of my questions about stacking and soldering. THANKS YOU so much. will watch your other vids and looking forward to your new one!
Hello Bio, Thank you for your kind comments. I am glad I can help you in your jewelry adventure! Thanks again. Greg Greenwood
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Thank you again for watching! Take care. Greg Greenwood
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Thank you. I appreciate it. Greg Greenwood
Hi Greg, hope you feel better. I really enjoyed your videos and thank you for sharing your knowledge. Looking forward to the next video. Take care and stay well!
Hello Doris, Yes I do feel better. Just got out of the hospital yesterday and am on the road to recovery.. I cannot wait to do more videos. Thank you for your well wishes!!! Greg Greenwood
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You are welcome! Greg Greenwood
Hello Greg hope you're doing well started watching your videos couple of weeks ago I watch them all learned a lot from you
Really do hope this Corona hasn't got you got me about 4 weeks ago rough!
Like I said I've learned a lot from your videos hope that you're well and can teach us more people like me need it!!!
Hello rebelone mark gold, Yes, I am doing better now. Just got out of the hospital yesterday and will start recovering from surgery. No Corona!! I am very glad that you are learning from my videos. I appreciate your comments. I will be making more videos soon. I cannot wait. I love helping!! Keep watching. Thanks again. Greg Greenwood
I really enjoyed watching your videos, thank you.
Hello Ken, I am glad you enjoyed my videos. Keep watching. Greg Greenwood
Hi Greg, I really love your videos. You're very inspiring and your step by step process is so helpful. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise. I've just started metal smithing and trying to learn by watching videos in RUclips. Would you be able to make a video with silver balls/beads embellishments all around a ring. I would love to learn how to do it. Thanks again and stay safe and healthy 😍
Hello Odel, Glad to hear that you are starting metalsmithing. It is a fascinating field and you can go in many different directions. You will enjoy it. Thank you for your kind comments. Keep watching my videos, I may be covering that subject in one of them. Greg Greenwood
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Hello Elisa, Thank you! 😊 Greg Greenwood
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Thank you, I appreciate it. Enjoy! Greg Greenwood
Hi Greg, i would "fill" the gap with some kind of a non permanent ... gapfiller, maybe made of wood or some other non-solderingable material that is still heatresistant enough to withstand the actual soldering:)
Hello Benni, Good thinking. Thanks for sharing. And thanks for watching. Greg Greenwood
Hi Greg, Just wanted to thank you for sharing your wealth of information. I love learning new ways of soldering! Just a couple of questions. What gauge of beaded wire and square wire did you use in this video? Also, where can I get the ring size chart that you used in the previous stacker video?
Hello Michelle, "Thank you for your kind comments. I am glad I can help. I used 14 ga. square and beaded wire. You can get many ring sizing charts online. Google 'ring sizing chart' and several will come up. Thanks again. Have Fun. Greg Greenwood
Hello Greg, I like to watch your videos. Could you make a video to make a perfect solder?
Hello Mansi, I am glad you are enjoying my videos. Check out my video "5 Secrets to Perfect Silver Soldering Every time" . That should help you also. Thank You. Greg Greenwood
Hi Greg thanks for directing me back to the stacker ring videos. I see them before but dismissed the idea of getting involved with rings due to issue of having to have specific sizes. I like making necklaces for their 'one size fits all' advantage. But I'm rethinking that now. Tell me Gere, what is the soldering block that you are using here, is it vermiculite?
As for the challenge, I don't know just how lose the rings are over the inner cylinder but I assume it's in acceptable limits. I'd hard solder one end ring and then I'd jack up or space the first beaded wire with some titanium wire and I'd probably risk soldering that second ring with hard solder too, (on the grounds that even if the first joint melts it cant go anywhere, (and I'm a chancer!) ) Leaving the titanium spacer in place I'd add put the second beaded wire in place and solder that with a medium solder, use another bit of titanium wire to space the next ring where it needs to be and fix with medium solder. And finally use another titanium spacer, I'd add the last wire. If all of that didn't work out I'd start again and and put my engineers hat on and I'd drill through each ring and the inner cylinder from side to side and have a small silver wire through the hole (one either side) now I can solder it with any solder and do it in one hit using your pick soldering method.
I did think about standing the ring on it's edge (so that the hole is horizontal) and simply soldering each ring at the top with one tiny pick soldered ball of hard solder to lock them all in the right place. Then, still working on edge apply with a pick easy solder to each ring and just roll the ring around easy soldering as I go until it's finished. Having thought about it a bit more I'd try this last method first as, with each ring held in place with one bit of hard solder, what can go wrong??
Out of curiosity what would you do??
All the best . . . Andy
Hello Andy, The soldering block in the video is a Vermiculite block. Glad to see you trying different approaches to the challenge.
Your second method would be better than the first. To many elements going on in the first. Your second idea is good, but you would want to avoid putting holes in any of the pieces. The easiest way is similar to your second. Use pressure fitting on the outer bands to fit the inner band. Make the bands to fit the inner band tight. You can do this by making the outer bands slightly small and then stretch them to fit using your new metal ring mandrel. They will hold their position on the inner band and you can set the ring up on end and solder the way you described. Good job Andy. Keep it up. Greg Greenwood
Greg, I just found you and love your videos! Question about the first ring you made...Could you not lay the wires flat side-by-side, solder together, and then bend into shape? I want to do the same concept but with half-round 18 ga 14k gold filled sandwiched between two 14 ga silver half-round wires. I'm not sure how I would be able to line up the flat side of the wire if they are already made individually and stacked on top. Are they harder to bend after soldering the first time? I also want to make it open/adjustable in the back so that makes it more complicated as well. Thanks!
Hello KG, Thank you for your comments. Glad you like my videos. There are always different ways of making rings that end up with the same look. That is what is so fascinating about art and jewelry making. We are all different and it is fun to try different approaches to the same problem!! I encourage you to make several rings which different methods. You will learn A LOT. As for bending harder after soldering. No, the metal will still be annealed and will bend easily, but if the wires are soldered in a way that creates "structural strength" then it will be harder to bend. It all depends on the design. Experience will tell you the answers with time. GO FOR IT AND HAVE FUN! Greg Greenwood
Hello Greg,
thank you very much for your videos, I learned a lot....
At the stackstrings I would like to make the one which is with 20 g wire, which ist crossed all around. I don' know how to wrapp the ring or how to make other
wrapped rings....
I hope you stay well.
Greetings from Germany
Hello Maren, Thank you for your kind comments. Glad you are learning. The 20 ga. wire ring basic steps: I used a long 20 ga. round wire and simply started to bend it in all different directions, twisting and turning onto itself. I made that twisted wire into a long strip about 2 to 3 inches long. I then wrapped the twisted wire around a ring mandrel at the size that I wanted. I cut the wire to the correct size (length) , matched the wire ends and soldered together with hard solder. I then pushed the wires flat against the ring mandrel until the crossed wires touched. I then soldered the crossed wires together with easy solder. Be careful not to over heat this step. You will melt your 20 ga. wire very easily. After all were soldered together, I tapped the ring flatter with a rawhide mallet. I finished the ring by using liver of sulfur and then a final polish. Good luck and feel free to ask any questions. Thanks again. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 Hallo Greg,
thank you so much for your very soon answer. I' ll try it, when I order the next wire:). Does the ring get's very much bigger after wrapping and tapping around the mandrel? About how many sizes it get's bigger?
In Germany it ist very difficult to get informations. Even in courses they don't want to share really their knowledge. This kind of mentality makes me little sad. I am learning since two years only on RUclips. I' m happy that there are teachers which give their knowledge with a warm heart.
Sorry für my bad English.
Have g good time, I' m waiting for your next video.
Greetings from Germany
Hello Maren, The ring will get a little larger, so wrap it around 2 sizes smaller than the size you want on the mandrel. It is easier to make larger than making smaller. Sorry to hear that it is difficult to get knowledge. I hope I can be a help for you. Thank you for your kind comments. Greg Greenwood
Dear sir you are a very good teacher of jewellery making i like your skills and knowledge my question is how make hard mediam and soft solder what the method silver + etc ? 🙏
Hello Ashok, Thank you very much for your kind comments. I do not make my own solder. I buy it commercially. Sorry I cannot help you in making solder. You can check out my video "What the Heck is Sterling Silver and Silver Solder". It may give you some insights. Thanks for watching. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 Thank you My dear sir 🙏
Hello Ashok, You are very welcome. Greg Greenwood
Hi Greg, I have learned a whole lot from you with your videos, you always have a smile and you are a great teacher. I have watched all your videos, and many more, because I want to make a thumb brace/splint ring and wanted to ask you if you think I need to use a Dead Soft, Full Hard, or Half Hard Wire? I'm thinking a full hard wire but not sure I need it that hard, the thumb really likes to bend and when it bends it hurts like the dickens. Also, was wondering what gauge you would suggest? I'm trying to keep the thumb totally stable so it's not able to bend at the first knuckle even slightly since it doesn't want to straighten again. I'm actually thinking of using 4 bands attached at the inside of the first knuckle. I've seen versions but really wanted to craft it very secure so, one band is just below the nail, the next one is crossing the knuckle, the third band is just below the offending knuckle and the last one extends past the big knuckle at the hand. I believe the configuration is called a swan. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Wow Dee, this sounds like a great project for you. I have always been interested in "medical jewelry" and this is right in that area. I have seen some examples of the thumb support, so I am familiar with what you have in mind. BUT: I have a few questions for you. 1. Are you planning on using one piece of wire and continually turning and wrapping the wire around the thumb to make it stable? Or 2. Are you going to solder 4 separate rings together with other pieces of wire. 3. The gauge of the wire will depend on your design. If you are using separate rings and then soldering them all together, you can get by with a thinner gauge. 14 -12 gauge. If you are using just one wire and wrapping. I would use 12-10 gauge. As for the Dead Soft , Half Hard, or Full Hard. Dead Soft will be easier to bend into shape but will be softer in the end. But you can "work harden" the metal by tapping on it after it is in the shape you want. This will make it stiffer and not bend as easily. Half hard might be a good bet also. .....I'm sorry to be a little all over the board on my answers but, without knowing the exact design I have to be a little generic. Let me know how you plan the design and I'll try to be more detailed. Thanks Greg Greenwood
Hi Greg,
My apologies for the delay, I got this all typed out and nearly posted when, though I'm unsure how he did it, the puppy erased all. He is fascinated with the computer and tries to take over for me when I get up.
Sooooo, down to your questions. I would like to solder 4 bands together at the back of the thumb joint to keep it from bending. Here is an example from an etsy seller who is apparently unavailable at this time. Here is the link:
www.etsy.com/listing/591265933/thumb-mcp-silver-splint-ring-swan-thumb?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=mcp+splint&ref=sr_gallery-1-10&frs=1
As you can see, this example is just 3 bands and I'm thinking of using 4. I would also like to give it more character by putting some pounding designs onto the outer-side, this should firm it up a bit.
So does this look to you like a piece of 14ga? or 12ga? Would you use square or round or even half round on this sort of jewelry? Sorry if I am being a pain but I really like your teaching style and feel you could teach me a lot!
Also, do you think the Half Hard will be firm enough to keep the thumb joint from bending? Is Full Hard really difficult to work with? I do plan to use your technique of annealing.
Do you mind sharing where you get your silver wire?
If you haven't guessed, I am fairly new to making my own jewelry however, I've been restoring vintage jewelry for more than 25 years.
Soooo, I have lots of questions, perhaps we can chat sometime.
Take good care over the holiday,
Dee
Hi Dee, I do not have a puppy but for some reason my reply to you did not send and disappeared!!!! Maybe it was too long of an answer.
I am familiar with the rings that you showed me. This should work for you very well. The four bands will give a little more support. Definitely put some hammer texture on your piece. It will give it a fun look and add interest. I would recommend 12 gauge round wire. Half round will bot be as comfortable. If you are going to be annealing, it doesn't matter if you get half hard or full hard wire. After you anneal it, it will be soft and easy to bend. That is OK because you are going to hammer texture which will work harden the metal perfectly. You can also tap the piece with a rawhide mallet and that will "work harden" too.
Rio Grande Jewelry Supply is an excellent source for tools and metal. Hope this helps you. Ask any question, anytime. Greg Greenwood
I'm just getting started on soldering, Where do you purchase your materials and other tools?
Hello Sharon, A good source for jewelry supplies and soldering equipment is Rio Grande Jewelry Supply. Thank you for asking. If you have any questions in the future about soldering, please feel free to let me know. Check out my playlist on Soldering. Many questions will be answered in those videos. The best to you. Greg Greenwood
Why you use all dif solders (H M and E) on one project? Is it just for demonstration purposes or is there another reason?
Hello Elizabeth, Good question. No, it is not for demonstration purposes. H,M,E solders melt at different temperatures. If the project has more than one solder joint, you should solder the first joint with Hard solder and then the next joint with Medium and finally the last solder joint with Easy. This way the prior solder joint does not re-melt and come undone. Check out 2 of my videos. First: "What the Heck is Sterling Silver and Silver Solder" and second: "How to Not Melt Silver Solder Part 1". These 2 videos will give you a good understanding of solder and the steps in soldering a project. Thanks for your question. Enjoy and learn from the videos. Especially HAVE FUN. Greg Greenwood
Hello again Greg, I ordered the borax flux you mentioned using and it came as a powder. Is this the same borax we find in the 10 mule team borax from the past? I still have a box of that , years later...lol. So do you just mix in a bit of water into this powder I received before using?
Hi Dee, I am sorry that you got the powdered borax. (It is not the same as mule team borax. ) You can keep the powered borax for some other uses that we can talk about later. Order from Rio Grande "Handy Flux" 7oz. = $6.55 item # 504084 or 1 lb. $10.75 item # 504086.
This flux is already mixed and ready to go. Just put a little in a smaller container to use from. Sorry for the mix up. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 Thanks Greg, was strange to get a powdered flux. BTW, I sent a response to your question about a week ago after you wanted to know about my project, did it get missed? Thanks again, Dee
what mm wire are you using ?
Hello Heath, The round twisted wire is: 20ga. / .812mm The square wires are: 14ga./2.05mm & 12ga./1.63mm . Thank you for your question. Keep watching. Greg Greenwood
I would solder them not paralel each other because silver sheets texture is so good l want to show it more and make it dark then polish 😊
Hello, Sounds good. Keep watching !! Greg Greenwood
Could you please give the proportion on how you make your borax flux. TIA
Hello Indira, I use "Handy Flux". It is a pre-prepared borax flux. If you want to make your own. I would suggest using a borax cone or bar. This is rubbed in a circular motion on a rough ceramic dish with a little distilled water. As you rub on the dish, it will make a great paste of borax for soldering. Both ways are easy. Good Luck Greg Greenwood
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Hello Kym. Thank you again for watching. Greg Greenwood
OK; so my attempt would be to solder the two bands on the bottom using easy solder; then flipping the ring over and repeating. I would then finish filling both ends, then a finish polish.
Great! Way to Go! Sounds like a good plan. Thanks for participating. Greg Greenwood
Where is Greg ?
Hello gerard, Thanks for asking! Unfortunately, I have been in the hospital with emergency surgery. This has really slowed me down in producing more videos. I will be getting back to the studio as soon as possible. I hate having so much time between videos. I can't wait!!!!! See you soon. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 ohh no 😥.... please get well. We need you!!
Hello JuegoArt, Thank you for your concern, I appreciate it! More videos will be coming soon. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 I’m sorry to hear that you have been unwell. Hope you recover soon!