BEZEL SETTING CABOCHONS/7 STEPS TO SUCCESS / PART 1 OF 2
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Part 1 of series of 2 videos demonstrating the details of bezel setting cabochon stones. This video covers. Step#1: Identifying different cuts of cabochon stones. Step#2: Accurate measurements using "Math" & "Non-Math" techniques. Step#3: Accurate cutting of bezel wire in preparation for soldering. Designer Craftsman Jeweler, Greg Greenwood, explains easy to follow details helping you learn the successful steps of bezel setting. PART 2 LINK: • BEZEL SETTING CABOCHON...
You are a remarkable teacher. Thank you.
Hello MDM, You're very welcome! Thank you for watching. Greg Greenwood
These videos are so exciting. I took classes last week introducing me to these techniques. Short classes. 3-4 hrs each. And now these, a review of what we did with more detailed instruction. Im just aware ofthese issues, thank you.
Hello Warm, Wonderful! You got this, keep it up. Greg Greenwood
This is some excellent quality teaching! This is the most detailed and precise description of bezel making I have ever seen and I have seen many. Bravo! You are an amazing teacher. Thank you!
Hello Anne, Thank you so much for your kind comments. I really appreciate it. I am glad you enjoyed the video. Keep on watching! Greg Greenwood
You're an excellent teacher Greg. Thank you!
Thank you Doris, I appreciate it. Greg Greenwood
Poking the algo. Love your stuff. 🎉
Hello Jonathon, Thank you very much. Keep watching. Greg Greenwood
Thats a Beautiful cab , Thank you so much for the lessons , on to part 2 . I am creating my work space , still have a few more tools to equip myself with as well , your videos are amazing , thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and skills , your tutorials are so helpful really appreciate you sharing 😀
Hello Bead Pie, Thank you for your kind comments. I appreciate it. I'm glad I can be of help to you. Greg Greenwood
This site is my go to when I have forgotten the basics.
Hello To forget, Very glad I can help. Thank you for watching. Greg Greenwood
I'm going to get an ultra-flush cutter right now! Great info!
Hello Lenore, You will love them. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628which ultra flush cutter model are you using?
Thank you for your lessons 🤓🙏🏽 you're a very good teacher!
Hello Purple Pikmin, Thank you for your kind comments. I appreciate it. Keep on watching!! Greg Greenwood
Your videos have always been so helpful, thank you for doing what you do😊
Hello Arly, You are more than welcome. Thanks for your kind comments. Greg Greenwood
Very good. Thanks for all your work!
Hello BIO, Thank you, I appreciate it! Keep watching... Greg Greenwood
Fantastic explanations of everything! 👌👍
Thank you Gillian, Glad you liked the video. Greg Greenwood
Very helpful thank you
Hello Amber, I am happy to help you. If you have any questions in the future, Please feel free to let me know. Greg Greenwood
love this video..I subscribed!
Very glad you are enjoying my videos. Thanks for subscribing. I appreciate it. Keep in touch. Greg Greenwood
MATH FORMULA! I love it. Thank you so much. I’m curious about pyramid cut stones, I can’t find any videos on how to bezel set them. Is that even possible??
Hello Cristina, You are very welcome. Pyramid cut stones can be easy too. Remember the "flush" cut stone in Part 1. Pyramids are usually flush cut stones. You only need a minimum of bezel onto the angle of the stone. Because the corners are sharp, you can modify the bezel with a file and notch out the corner, then it will not "crinkle" at the corner. Watch my video "19 tips for Outside the Box Jewelry Bezel Settings". This video will give you some more tips about bezels. thanks for watching. Greg Greenwood
You are amazing 💯💯
Thank you Alaa. I appreciate it. Greg Greenwood
thankyou sir
Hello Man, You are welcome. Greg Greenwood
Your instruction videos are awesome
Hello Susana, Thank you very much. I appreciate your comment. If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 Greg. The bane of my existence is the height of the bezel. With some stones it’s pretty clear cut where the curve begins but with some it is so difficult to tell. And I see other artists using tall cabs and the bezels definitely don’t go up as high as I would have thought. To the curve … advice?
Hello Susana, Yes, it can be hard to decide the height of the bezel. The trick is to look carefully at the side of the cab to see where it STARTS to curve. If you need to, you can put a small square metal ruler next to the stone. This will help you see the start of the curve. A rule of thumb is to go a minimum of 1 mm taller than the start of the curve. Use your judgement to see if you need to go any higher. I like to keep the bezel at a minimum height. If I go too tall, then the bezel will not lay flat. It will wrinkle. I hope this helps you. Let me know how it goes. Good Luck... Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 thanks Greg. Everything you said I know and implement (except the square metal ruler? I’ll ask my engineer husband!) but it seems I still have a tough time w the ones that are super tall. Doesn’t seem possible that I’d need such a TALL bezel. And I see other people w bezels that look like they are not even going over the stone even a mm. Not sure how other than glue and I think that’s a no-no.
Hello Susana, I have seen some of these super tall cabs with very little bezel also. They could be using some glue, but eventually it will fail. The only way to securely hold a stone, is to have the bezel go over the curve. This is where the steel ruler comes in very handy. Our eyes just cannot pick up the subtle curve of the stone sometimes. Just remember the laws of physics, if there is no resistance, the stone will come out. You will be happy when using the ruler!! Let me know... Thanks again for your great question. Greg Greenwood
A little pair of embroidery scissors cut bezels really well, without distorting them.
Hello Irene, Thank you for sharing. I really appreciate it. Keep watching. Greg Greenwood
Gregg Love your tutorials I am a beginner and want to know what are the ultra flush cutter you use? This seems much easier than using my jewelers saw.
Hello Linda, I use the flush cutters from Rio Grande Jewelry Supply. They are called "Ultra Flush Cutters". Welcome to the world of jewelry making. If you have any questions, please let me know. Greg Greenwood
I like math. Im comfortable with it
Hello Warm, Thanks for sharing. Greg Greenwood
Thank you so much for this video. I'm one of those "cringers" when it come to the thought of doing bezels so I usually do prong or tab settings. My goal this winter is to master the bezel!! My question to you is can your ultra flush cutters cut through both ends at the same time to ensure ends that match perfectly? I am currently working with 26 gauge bezel strips. Thanks again!
Hello Mark, Thank you for your comments. I appreciate it. You will for sure reach your bezel goal soon!!! Yes, the ultra flush cutters will cut through the two bezels at once. But, one side will not be ultra flush.. So be careful filing the one end flat. Keep on watching and let me know how the bezels are progressing. Thanks again. Greg Greenwood
Try using toenail nippers (my favorite flush cutter) and they r very accurate!
Hello Martha, Interesting! Thank you. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 for thinner cuts of metal of course!
Absolutely! Greg Greenwood
Oh yeah, and is there a rule of thumb for the gauge of the bezel wire to use based on your stone? Or is it purely aesthetic?
Hello Cristina, There really is not a rule of thumb. Some jewelers like thicker gauges, while other prefer a softer touch and thinner gauge. I use different gauges depending on the stone. If anything, I will go with a thinner gauge. Thank you for asking. I'm here to help. Greg Greenwood
Hello,
I hope you can help! How do you do rubover set a single round stone on signet rings? Should I use a flat top with straight edge stone and just glue it? Or a flat top with single bevel stone? If using a FTSB stone that is 1.5mm in height, do i need the bevel to be a bit higher than the stone? And what would the thickness of the bezel should be? Many thanks in advance!
Hello Epic, It is always best to have the bezel a little bit higher that the stone. For the 1.5mm stone you want to use a very thin bezel so it will fold over that small of a stone. Try not to glue it. I hope this helps. Greg Greenwood
That's a beautiful stone what is it please?
Hello Little Flower, I'm sorry I can't remember the exact name, but it is an agate. There are so many different agates. And yes, it is beautiful! Thank you for watching. Greg Greenwood
ur vids r great
u should have parenthesis outside the two addition terms.. order of operations the way u wrote it means u would multiply Pi x Bezel, then add that to diameter. minor note maybe add an annotation i think yt has a tool for that
Hello Saxazax, Thanks for your observation. I appreciate it. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 i think goofy/clickbait titles and thumbnails doesnt match very well w ur vids. they r very detailed and informative. not saying dont make goofy or clickbait content to draw ppl in. maybe just separate between more entertaining vids vs educational vids. i was wondering if u had been making more clickbaitey thumbnails to hopefully draw in more viewers...
maybe im wrong and what i want in vids--more sober, get to the point--is not what others really want or what will b successful. i keep telling all my fav channels that dont have so many subs that the way u grow ur channel is collabs with other yters.
if im totally off dont change a thing and forget what i said. im going to watch every vid u have. these other ppl r like 'hey man well im gonna go out in my backyard today and oops that didnt work.' (those vids have their benefit--i want to cast aluminum in a pit fire and ur vids only talk about torches and silver from first glance--so one can still benefit from hobbyists...)
ur vid on basic must have tools is still pretty expensive for most ppl. idk if there r a lot of vids out there but it might be a good project for u to design and sell (on patreon?) some kind of curriculum where ppl start with like 5 essential tools and u give them a few basic projects to do (pendant wrapping?). and then they can buy the next lesson which introduces a new tool.
thanks for all the great info and detailed explanation. i could tell u were worth ur salt when u started going into the molecular processes with annealing lol.
nerdforge, how to make everything, primitive technology, hunt primitive, andy ward's ancient pottery, four keys book arts, sally pointer, r all great crafts channels
Hello Saxazax, Thank you for your suggestions. I will keep them in mind. You gave me an idea for a video: Finding and using thrift store and inexpensive tools for the "Extreme Budget " beginning jewelry student. This way they do not have to shell out a bunch of money to see if they are even going to like making jewelry. You are correct about the beginning tools being expensive. This may be an alternative.
Thank you for watching and commenting. Greg Greenwood
Hello Saxazax, Thanks again. Greg Greenwood
Question for ya, Greg. How do I keep my bezel plate from coming unsoldered, when I heat the piece to solder on a jump ring? I've set 5 cabs in bezels, and every one of them have a gap where the plate meets the bezel wire. Every time. I've been ordering on extra bezel wire to cover the gaps, but then it requires so much sanding to wear down the bezel enough to fold it over the shoulder of the cab.
Hello Red, 1. Use Hard solder on the bezel wire to hold together. 2. Use medium solder to solder bezel to the back plate. Make sure the bezel is fitting "perfectly" on the back plate. Put enough solder inside the bezel to solder the bezel down completely. Heat from underneath. Do not go onto the next step until you have a complete solder job on the back plate. 3. Use easy or extra easy solder to put on the jump ring. Sounds like you are over heating the bezel and plate when you are soldering on the jump ring. Try sweat soldering the jump ring onto the piece. ** Yellow ochre can be painted on the back plate and the bezel wire before you solder on the jump ring. This will prevent the solder from flowing. I hope this helps you. Let me know. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 thanks. I didn't even know there were different grades of solder, and have been using the same solder for everything. I need to get some easy solder. A lot of times, the bezel wire will reach melting temp, before the solder pallians. That should have been my first clue. Lol thanks again
Hello Red, Check out my video "What the Heck is Sterling Silver and Silver Solder" This will give you more insights to solder. Thanks for watching and commenting. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 thanks for all your valuable input, and stellar content. Don't know where I'd be without ya. ❤️
My pleasure! Greg Greenwood
I've tried the oval method many times (length+width÷2+bezel thickness x pi. My bezel comes out about 3/4 of an inch short every time. Wonder what I'm doing wrong
Hello Red, Hummmmm? I always use mm measurements when measuring bezels. Let's go through an example: Length = 39mm Width = 30 and bezel thickness is .5mm. 39mm + 30mm = 69mm divided by 2 = 34.5mm + .5mm = 35mm 35mm X 3.14 (pi) = 109.9mm (length of bezel wire) Can round off to 110mm long. If you do not have any calipers that are mm and inches, Get an electronic digital caliper at Harbor Freight. They are inexpensive and work fine. Good luck and let me know how it is going. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 I think I need to just buy a proper caliper. I've been using this ancient plastic one. Doesn't seem accurate. Figured that out the day after I posted the comment.
Hello Red, I would guess that is your problem. Plastic calipers are only accurate when they are new. Good Luck and let me know how it goes. Greg Greenwood
What dimensions is that bezel wire in this video? Ive been stabbing in the dark ordering from rio grande, and have yet to purchase bezel wire that is not either too thick, or too thin, or too wide, or too narrow
Hello Red, I can understand your frustration. I like to use 28ga (.013 in.) thick fine silver bezel for medium to larger stones. For small ones I sometimes use 30 ga. (.010 in) . I don't worry about getting the exact height of the bezel because I usually cut the bezel to the correct height to match the stone. Order 1/4in height bezel wire and then cut it down to the height you need. Rio Grande Item# 101076. Search this and all the sizes will come up. You can get a smaller height if you wish, just so you don't have to cut down every time.
I hope this helps you. Let me know how it goes. Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 thanks yet again, for your assistance! Love what you do, and hope you keep doing it forever. Lol. But ya, I'm disabled, with a very limited income. So the height of the bezel can sometimes be important to me, because I still don't have a crucible, or proper torch to smelt all my scraps. So I pinch every conceivable penny, when ordering materials
@@greggreenwood4628 so far, I've been doing all my brazing, and soldering with a mapp canister with a simple trigger action torch tip. It makes a giant flame, and I have to be super careful when soldering. When I'm ready to actually spend on a better set up, what the best thing you could suggest for a silver smithing torch for beginners? Would be helpful if I could find something under $100 that was reliable. But that doesn't seem to be a reality, from what I've found. I have bought two bernzomatic setups from ace hardware, and returned them, because they didn't even work. Lol
Hello Red, I understand. Then try to get the height that matches the majority of your work. Don't worry about the crucible and smelting your scraps. You will also need an ingot mold, rolling mill and drawplates. Use your scrap for smaller pieces in your projects. Ex. small balled shot and small cut out shapes. Greg Greenwood
Hello Red, Go to They have several Butane torches that are under $100. Some are blow torch flames and others smaller flames for soldering. Check with them before you buy. These torches will be a good substitutes until you can afford a larger torch set up.
Thanks for watching and let me know how it goes. Greg Greenwood
Greg, do you know why my bezels are wonky, wobbly, just not smooth
They come out looking like old dented tin cans. Word of wisdom would be welcome 😊😊
Hello Cannon, Thanks for your questions. I'll answer in your next comment. Greg Greenwood
Hello Cannon, Yikes! Old tin cans. Not a good look! LOL Couple questions for you first. Have you watched my video Part 2 of 2 on Bezel Setting Cabochons? Part 2 shows set by step on pushing the bezel wire down smoothly. If not, watch that video. Next: 1. Use a fine silver bezel and not a sterling silver bezel wire. It is softer and is easier to push down smooth. 2. Don't get your bezel wire too tall. Make the height just over the curve of your stone. Too tall will leave too much metal and it will look like a dented tin can. 3. Push the bezel down in small amounts at a time. Take your time pushing the bezel down. Go back and forth on opposite sides of the stone. AGAIN , small pushes with small amounts at a time. 4. Use the roller tool to blend the bezel smooth after you have it pushed smooth. Don't let it look like the tin can as you are pushing. If it looks like a tin can when you start pushing, then it will end up looking like a tin can. Push small amounts at a time. I hope this helps you. Please let me know how it goes for you. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask. Keep watching and good luck. It will work out great!!! Greg Greenwood
@@greggreenwood4628 Hi Greg, I think I could be guilty on multiple counts above. I've been doing the lapidary work on my cabs and am thinking that the angle of the girdle may be too much
I'm working with 26 gage fine silver, so that is good.
I think I need to take my time as well. I've been starting with a low angle with pushing the bezel in then increasing the angle until the pusher is almost or even perpendicular to the top of the wire to get the stone to tighten up and not wiggle.
I'll work on all these possible issues and let you know how it goes. As always, thank you so much for your help. 😊
Hello Cannon, Glad you are using the fine silver bezel. Give it a go and let me know how it goes. The best to you. Greg Greenwood