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I prefer Apple magic keyboard because it’s slim and while note taking Logitech one becomes bulk. Apple one is a bit sturdy and slim so to conclude most of them come to iPad Pro over the others though pro maybe a overkill is only due to aesthetics so if the case is bulk it spoils the whole .
Other reviewers that beat this channel to the review by more than 20 hours said to update the iPadOS in order to fix the issues. A little research on their part would have paid off in the end.
Yeah so the “much, MUCH better trackpad for the magic keyboard” was pretty exaggerated and now that those issues are fixed...I just don’t see the point in forfeiting protection for “premium feel”
For almost half the price, the Logitech still is a pretty damn good deal given it’s compromises. And if someone’s never even owned the Magic Keyboard case,they might now even notice the drawbacks of the Cheaper Logitech lol
Factz it was a hard pill for me to swallow getting the magic kB 2 ran thru 3 different cases before and have to say I don’t regret my decision. I feel all the other keyboards are playing catch up at this point the bridge was close very close but the rubber feet at the bottom that holds the iPad to the keyboard wares over time.
Tony NewGuy exactly, I appreciate this kind of reviews where you have product comparison but not feeling like one is absolutely the best, specially in a world where points of view are so different and budgets too
Yes you do need to visit the Apple store to fix this. Just go to the Logitech subdivision on the ground floor and from there follow the signposts for “peripherals”, then “keyboard”, and after about a mile you should see a plaque “Logitech software upgrades guru department”. If it says “Logitech software upgrades minions department” then you've walked too far.
I mean, I don't cover my MacBook in rubber/hard plastic cases, nor I cover it with vinyl skins or anything. I just put it on a sleeve if I'm going to throw it in a bag, same thing with the iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard, same sleeve even most of the time.
Y AB Yeah but it's still a giant glass screen & metal & aluminum construction so I'd rather protect it to keep it looking brand new for years to come rather it get scuffed up, scratches, or get dented
I was happy to see a comparison between the two. But you made some points I cannot agree with: -You compared the ease of removing the device from the case. Apples to Oranges my man. The whole point of the logtiech is that you don't remove it from the case. They designed it to not fall out so of course it will be more difficult remove. Instead of removing it from the case you wrap the keyboard around. That way the device isn't exposed while in tablet mode which it would be on the magic keyboard. -You showed how inflexible the keyboard was on the magic keyboard by testing the keyboard. But when you went to test the keyboard flex on the logitech all you did is flex the hinge. 18:20 Again, apples to oranges. Of course the cloth hinge will flex. It's cloth. It has to fold around both ways to be used when the case is closed or completely open (in tablet mode). I'm not trying to rip into you. Your points about the kickstand, the inaccuracy of the trackpad (and that it's diveboard), and how weird the flap was with the pen in place on the logitech were accurate. Thanks for the review.
I was thinking the same and he was also constantly complaining about the hinge on the back while most people like versatility and the magic keyboard has only a small angle while logitech goes all in (in my opinion)
The Logitech top flap also has a sleeve for the pencil when traveling for even more security, this is over looked by many. Great little feature. Great depth on the comparison. Here is to hoping for a 12.9 version. Love my Slim Folio Pro w/ a magic track pad II for now. The lack of shortcut/function keys on the Magic Keyboard is a deal breaker for me, just can’t understand why Apple couldn’t do it. They could have been small and under the angle of the iPad, you could learn them easy enough. And Hey, when you max out a 12.9 for $2K+ CDN you want a bit of protection, your point is a little jaded when you get product sent to you for free.
At the end of the day your getting almost all the best features of the magic keyboard for half the price. I'll take a slightly lesser quality to save that much money especially when I've already spent that much money for the iPad. Edit: Spelling Correction
@@Andy_M.S.c Well your just a ray of sunshine aren't ya bud... Jesus Christ take a solid look at yourself. For you to be that hostile over literally nothing blows my mind.
@@Andy_M.S.c My apologies for quickly writing this out while at the hospital for my mother in law and missing a couple of things. But hey... hopefully that made ya feel a little better about yourself 👌
That's just it. The cheaper option is “almost” as good. But considering everything you interact with and use constantly (keyboard, trackpad, proximity of touch screen, ease of detachment) is noticeably better on the Magic keyboard I'd say it's worth it.
@@MaxKito2 why are you taking it personally? literally get a laptop if you need one. you are slogging this ipad down by putting such a bulky case on it.
Senpie not sure about the person on the comment, but for me personally, i want to make my ipad into a touchscreen laptop. my high school laptop was a lenovo yoga touchscreen laptop and i loved being able to tap on the screen if i was too lazy to move the mouse, but i love apple too!! (and lenovo yogas are ugly lol.) plus, i want to be able to take handwritten notes AND easily type essays on the same device. also (just curious), why are you on a video about keyboards for ipads if you’re against the idea of turning an ipad into a laptop? 😆
My overall thoughts: The Magic Keyboard case is the more aesthetically pleasing option while the Logitech case is the more functional option. Sure the Magic Keyboard has the USBC port and the Logitech case is made from a better material, but my overall point stands. For most people, the Logitech case should be the default option if you want a keyboard. It’s only the die-hard iPad Pro fans that have to make the decision. Personally, I’d go with the Magic Keyboard case because I am that kind of iPad Pro user who cares about the aesthetics. But in the end, you can’t go wrong with either option.
I couldn't agree more. The reason I'd go with the Logitech case is I really like the protection it provides as well as the ability to use the iPad Pro in tablet form. Other than that I do really love the Magic Keyboard. I didn't like that price very much (haha) but it's a really nice keyboard case. Oh and I HATE how oily it gets.
Thank you! I’d much rather watch a review for the first time from someone like you who has a more fleshed out thoughtful opinion. This is a situation where both options are great but I think this video didn’t do a good job truly explaining the benefits of the Logitech.
I have a Logitech keyboard with media keys I forget are there and don’t even use. I appreciate how close the iPad is when I need to touch it. I also like the foot print of the Magic Keyboard. But it’s great to have options.
@@genefactor007 Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
8:46 You’ll notice here that the Logitech has some lag to it. If you slow the video down to .25x speed, you’ll notice that when he lifts his fingers off of the keys and stops typing, the characters continue to input for quite a moment, compared to the magic keyboard where the input stops as soon as he lifts his fingers off of the keys and stops typing. You’ll also see the issue at 9:26. It’s pretty noticeable in my opinion, even playing at normal speed
Update of the firmware or of Logitech App? How do I know if the firmware has been updated? I am sill having keystroke recognition and cursor issues (but I am running the developer Beta). Please clarify. Thanks
Are both iPads on iPadOS 13.6? I think another reviewer said the fluidity and of the trackpad and the backlighting keys on the Logitech were fixed in a recent update.
I watched this video earlier today and it helped me decide on the Logitech. I went out and purchased it. Using It now and I’m very satisfied. I thank you for your in-depth review.
There are quite a few things you didn’t talk about or gazed over. Like how you can use the Logitech Folio handheld. I probably won’t use it that way very often but it’s nice that it’s an option. Maybe you mentioned it but I missed it. Also, there’s a movie-like position mode for presentation, also a sketch mode position for drawing on the iPad with Logitech Folio. All things that make the Logitech Folio more flexible (literally) than the magic keyboard (which is a great keyboard as well). Just seems like you only made this video to say the magic keyboard is a trillion miles better than Logitech folio. I saw the product breakdown and it’s so worth it for the price but not even if you’re looking for budget. Even if you have the extra money to spend, the Logitech Pro is a severely great option alongside the magic keyboard. Durable, easy to use and things like the diving board trackpad is easy to get over, 🤷🏾♂️
That's the theme with all his videos. He is an apple sheep. Exaggerates anything that apple does a teeny tiny better and passingly mentions the achievements of competitors all the while making excuses for why apple is a victim who couldn't make their product better. For ref, see where he compares trackpad sizes.
I think Max Tech has been using the Magic Keyboard for a while and the review is biased for that as the element of nostalgia kicks in. Logitech Folio Touch is objectively much better given the price and features.
literally.. it’s so annoying how he’s being super annoying with the keyboard (the logitech) and then being super rough with the flap when it was over the pen like wtf ..
He's an Apple fanboy and this review is highly biased towards the magic keyboard. Of course it's gonna be better if it's twice as expensive. The real question is whether the extra money is worth it. Never is this mentioned in the video.
the only gripe I have with the video is the clear bias towards the magic keyboard just because it's apple. otherwise this is a great review outlining definitive differences between products
He mentioned how the Logitech was better in some ways than the magic keyboard multiple times throughout the video. Jesus christ you can’t say one positive about Apple ever without being called a fanboy lol
Its usually nice when you’re in bed and you rest the ipad a little bit more elevated than your usual set up... Idk may be a different experience for others, but it’s definitely convenient
You have to update iPadOS to the latest version and then the keyboard backlighting will work for the logitech keyboard. Let me know if it works. Also, do you know if logitech will be making one for the 12.9?
This dude is truly an apple fan boy and did not give the Folio a fair shake. I have owned both and returned the Apple keyboard. Why? I wanted to be able to prop it up for hand written notes. If you are someone who writes with your Apple Pencil then the Logitech case is a clear winner. Another note, the backlight issue was resolved. It works great.
The things that they do right just feel so much better, everyone would want that extra little thing but I appreciate when they give me something I didn't even knew I wanted.
impendio exactly, and I would argue that one should see it as an investment, I have an iphone 7s+ and it works wonders! also a mac form 2014. They are products to last definitely and you should give them the accessories required imo.
Please answer this: can you just tap to click on the folio touch, or do you have to click it? I personally prefer just tapping so if it doesn’t click it doesn’t really matter, as long as you can click on the top
The thing that I love about the combo touch is the fact that the keyboard portion was able to disconnect from the case. As someone who uses my iPad for mostly handwriting, I really hoped that the folio would have a similar ability to detach the keyboard as it is what makes the combo touch so great in my opinion.
ADS SY I think the detach isn’t a feature most likely front the different locations of the smart connector. On the pro it is on the back while the air and iPad have it on the horizontal bottom of the device where the keyboard would detach so I assume it was an engineering complexity to add it in. Even still, I would be willing to pay a bit more for such a feature since it is something I would use constantly and is the reason I don’t have the magic keyboard, even tho it detaches it doesn’t provide protection.
I spent $328 on the magic keyboard plus $28 for a skin to cover the keyboard surface plus $43 on the cover buddy to kind of protect the back and sides and provide the place for the Apple Pencil, total 399. Plus tax. A Logitech rep just told me I can maybe expect a12.9 version of this more complete and useful keyboard case in a month, which would allow me to get back about $200, if I return the case Buddy this week. Or I can return all the accessories and the iPad Pro and almost have enough for a 16” MacBook Pro (yeah, I’d buy it instead of waiting)
Got it today and already decided to return it. It’s great, for the most part, but much bulkier and heavier than the apple magic keyboard case. I don’t know about you but I never have dropped an iPad so all that extra protection is a bit my. The function row is amazing and I don’t know how Apple missed that. This thing is heavy. Main reason I am returning is due to lack of lap usability. It is impossible to use it on your lap if you want to use the keyboard.
I find it surprisingly good in the lap, granted that I normally use it when sitting in bed or sitting in a recliner with my feet on an ottoman. Though I am typing now with my feet on the floor and it is fine as well.
It’s a subtle feature but the Logitech flap has a small sleeve in it to store the pencil even more securely. The Slim Folio Pro has it and I saw it on this video too.
Coming from a photographer or film maker's point of view who may use iPads for editing, data/storage transfer and overall laptop like workflow, I would now lean towards the ergonomics of the Magic keyboard for the simple fact of freeing up your single USB port for readers and external HDs and using the hinge port for continuous power or charging while you are working. That is a HUGE bonus in my experience. People who complain about the lack of 360 fold for drawing etc. forgets that on the MK the iPad detaches with a finger and re-attaches perfectly just by placing it on because of powerful magnets, Plus you don't have a bulky case to hold that'll make it heavier.
I'm just wondering are the keys smaller since on the magic keyboard some of the keys are squished together, while it doesn't seem to be on the folio touch.
i have that keyboard and arrived today. the keyboard is actually amazing and wider. and from the video says, its lagging. after today's update, everything is smooth and so good.
Honestly, I have gotten used to the magic keyboard. With the 11 inch iPad Pro. I actually like how close they are, it’s easier to reach to the keys. Not a downside at all
Am I the only one who noticed? In 13:57 - 14:20 he keeps talking about the brydgepro+ keyboard but it was not flashed in the video, it was rather the logitech combo touch for the regular ipad (i think) but still, kudos to you and your team! Nice review. I'm definitely gonna get this rather than the smart keyboard folio by apple.
I tested the MK the only downside i found is that if you are a writer or do a lot of typing it's not comfortable, keys are very compressed close to each other and I would prefer more key travel
Logitech just updated the keyboard configuration app in the past day or so to fully support the iPad Pro. Previously, it was only flashed for the Pro 10.5" and 3rd gen Air.
go for the logitech, the hinge of the magic keyboard case to keep it for drawing makes me nervous that over time it’ll be damaged. Also if the magic keyboard drops, that iPad is definitely breaking. Pay 300 for no protection is kinda silly
really waiting for you to review iPad Pro 2020 Folio touch man ! great review as always . Magic Keyboard is gorgeous but now i prefer Logitech Folio Touch . It's more practical than the magic keyboard , *less aesthetic but more protection* . Folio touch have function keys too which makes it more closer to a MacBook . and budget wise (which makes me possible to purchase lol) Magic Keyboard is almost the half the price of iPad Pro 11" ($300) which is hella insane for a keyboard and a trackpad . Overall , the $160 Logitech Folio Touch is the real game changer for the iPad Pro 2020
It all comes down to price. The magic keyboard is almost double the price of the Logitech Folio Touch, and I don’t think it’s double better! If that makes sense lol
Re-tethered Tech can u tell me where I can but it from for the iPad Pro 2020 (4th gen) 11 inch cause i couldn’t find it anywhere if so can u plsssssss send a link pls
Haven’t received my M1 iPad Pro yet, but got the Logitech Folio Touch case to go along with it as I’m loving the Combo Touch on my iPad Air 3! Half the price, function keys, personally think it looks a lot nicer, more protective, and still has a keyboard I quite enjoy typing on. Also find it’s lapable enough and strongly prefer the design for media consumption. Greatly appreciate being able to hide the keyboard and prop the iPad up on my lap with the kickstand.
@@meese1k Haha! I'd take 'plasticky denim' over that soft leather-like material of the Magic Keyboard. I have the Magic Keyboard and let me tell you, the thing is an oil magnet. Doesn't look all that great after some use no matter how much you try to keep it looking like new.
I would choose the Logitech keyboard mainly for the writing mode. I plan to do a lot of handwritten note-taking and the MK simply doesn't allow me to do so without taking the iPad out.
I just bought this keyboard. I don’t know what’s up with your ipad but mine doesn’t skip when scrolling at all. I’m also using the new beta 14 of ipad os. None of those issues exist on mine. You may want to look into that.
Michael Miller Same issue here. I am hoping that this is a beta issue. There are also moments when the key strokes don’t register. Are you finding the same thing?
@@MaxTechOfficial Thank you sir I'm watching ur videos all the time. Your the best tech reviewer I've ever met. Keep it up sir.. I'm following Max Tech always! From the 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭GBU
I really thought Vadim was being biased before i got both in hand. I had already purchased the MK used before i ordered the folio touch. I told myself that the folio touch is just better all around. I got the Folio Touch yesterday and have been using it for 24 hours, got the MK today. I have to say that the MK is just all around more satisfying experience even without the shortcuts. Nice Review.. Did think it was bias but not anymore.
All around protection & pencil security vs flawless performance.... still some features left to desire from a $300 keyboard, I will wait for hopefully a better v2.0 of the magic keyboard
I've got this and it beats the Magic Keyboard pretty much across the board with regards to features and protection. It may not look as "cool" but it's far more functional and at 1/2 the price, it's a no-brainer.
The cost difference is definitely attractive. If I didn’t already have the Apple Magic Keyboard I’d definitely be tempted. But for me, this would be the only draw. I don’t care about the function keys - leaving them out allowed Apple to place the iPad significantly closer to the user. My setup includes the Switcheasy CoverBuddy case, which is a perfect companion to the Magic Keyboard. You get protection, including protection for the Apple Pencil, without losing the easy magnetic mounting. The case allows easy access to the hardware buttons, much better than the Logitech Folio. Still, as I said, the price difference may well be worth the compromises.
Anyone knows if the keyboard behind Logitech stop rocking when u turn it to the back os the iPad? Because if it continues running then we can’t actually use it with the keyboard on the back...
I like the naked feel, but my hands are very clumsy and my current iPad Pro 10.5 is basically shattered. Price does not matter, which should I buy? Also looking for 11 inch iPad Pro, any deals?
The Logitech is your fathers KB case and the MKB case is that kool kid that attracts all the ladies you want to hang out with. LOL.... I returned the 11" MKB case bc of the weight, small trackpad and the lack of function keys. I got the Smart KB case + Apple trackpad in SG and it works very well.
I think the combination of I-Blasson magic keyboard compatible bumper with Apple's magic keyboard and a second, regular , cheap TPU bumper if you want to protect your iPad when freeded, you get the best combination team. Apple's Magic Keyboard keying feeling plus trackpad snappiness is second to none!
Max, I purchased both devices, and you nailed it in the “FEEL” department. The Magic Keyboard just makes the IPAD feel like a different device changing the experience, something that you do not get with the Logitech Keyboard of any other keyboard. If you spend IPAD PRO money, you sure should take the jump and get the only keyboard that really makes this device EVOLVE.
Thank you for a really unbiased comparison. While I have a different Logitech Slim Folio kB for my iPadAir3, it has similar function keys. One of them I’ve never noticed before is the onscreen keyboard key. Thanks for enlightening me !!!
Personally, my decision is already made as I am typing this on a Magic Keyboard Case :), but for any buyers who are still undecided, here’s a few things I’ve noticed. First, the immersive experience that the Magic Keyboard offers obviously is way more refined than that of the Logitech. The price may justify it for some consumers, but there is a particular market that will spend that extra money for the said “Apple experience”. Secondly, the Apple experience can be furthered explored into software and bugs. The Magic Keyboard will of course be top notch as it is manufactured by Apple themselves, but because the Logitech is from a third party company, there will be several bugs. Yes these may be fixed in later updates, but for now, these bugs may be a determining factor. Finally, the quality. Once again, harping on this “Apple experience”, the Logitech case along with any other third party case, will never be as sleek or as slim as the Apple cases. That is what Apple’s entire designs are based off of. Unique, modern, slim designs that no one has ever seen before. This intriguing market is why the Magic Keyboard has been selling so well (and will continue to). If you want the Apple “quality” and “experience”, then get the Magic Keyboard. Otherwise, save your money, get the Logitech, and perhaps invest in an Apple Pencil because it is totally worth $130 just to click it to the side of your iPad Pro every 30 seconds :). Hopefully this was helpful to anyone who reads this and enjoy your day :).
Max your reviews are EPIC, I really really think you’re no doubt one of the best reviewers that can make us almost feel we’re using the products. Keep it on! 👏🏻
Logitech targeted a good market. Basically whoever bought the 11 inch iPad Pro just wanted a great tablet for drawing, photoshop etc. So I don't think anyone will be buying a laptop dock like case for the 11 inch iPad Pro unlike the 12.9 inch which I believe people buy it for true laptop replacement(provided they have a desktop like Mac mini, iMac etc).
Nice review! After months of using the Magic Keyboard, I would strongly recommend make an effort to go for it. Might seem costly, but believe me, you won’t regret it.
Surprised I missed this video. Well done and largely agree with you. The keyboards really don't compete with each other. Two different markets. I thought I wouldn't get another iPad with the lack of useable, professional creative apps. But may have other uses that may justify upgrading. I have the original Logitech Keyboard for iPad Pro 9.7" with SmartConnector. Still after 5 years. The thing works perfectly. Still. I've dropped my iPad in the case. No damage whatsoever. A piece of plastic broke off the case. But the keyboard still works perfectly fine. If you have the 12.9" iPad Pro, there is only once choice as the Logitech still doesn't have a version for it. You brought up a good point: the premium feel. The ability to remove the iPad easily from the keyboard. The extra flexibility in the viewing angle. For professionals, all this makes a difference. I wouldn't use the iPad much as a laptop replacement so I think I could live without the functionality of the Logitech. Good job with the comparison.
Now im confuse. the Logitech provides more protection and its also serves the purpose and functions, well il go for Logitech. I might consider the cellular version of Ipad Pro
what i’m getting is that the magic keyboard has some creature comforts because they’re a first party product, doesn’t seem worth it though if you’re not gonna be using them as a laptop replacement and just need a good keyboard
Great review but you never talked about accessories that plug into the iPad. I've been hearing that the Logitech Folio Touch will not work on many accessories, one of those being the USB-C HUB due to the sides being covered in the plastic case but it does work with the Magic Keyboard..........your thoughts on this??
Something has been nagging my brain since WWDC: the repeated mentions of Linux during the keynote. What if Apple was hinting at something major in the pipeline? For years the company attempted to enter the server market, but while the MacOS is an exquisite consumer/workstation operating system, it has failed to make a sizable entry into the enterprise market, a market that is now dominated by various flavors of Linux. Now imagine once the migration to Apple Silicon (AS) is complete, and Apple has an AS competitor to Intel's Xeon that runs more efficiently, why stop just with future workstations like the Mac Pro or iMac Pro? Why not reintroduce a server branch of the Macintosh that not only runs MacOS Server, but also some Linux variant - and as it will be a non-consumer product it runs natively instead of within a virtual environment? It wouldn't be the first time the company would market a product that runs a non-native software, remember the Apple Network Server (1996-7), which operated using IBMS AIX? Furthermore, why stop with just offering such a product to future clients, when Apple's own servers could herald the company's entry into the enterprise cloud computer market. Apple is the largest tech company around, yet currently it is missing from an enterprise market where the likes of Amazon AWS, Microsoft Azure, Google and others are already massive players. In fact current Apple services like iCloud, the various app stores, Apple pay, ... etc. already operate on non-native infrastructure (its estimated Apple leases Amazon AWS services for a 30 million dollar monthly fee), even though services amount to some 22% of the company's revenue according to the last quarterly report (a figure that is second only to iPhone sales and is roughly three times that of iPad sales). Once Apple starts to use its own infrastructure for services, what will prevent the company from extending such services beyond the current consumer market into an - 14% of quarterly revenue. even more lucrative enterprise market? Amazon has demonstrated what can be done with their AWS Graviton custom built processors (developed using ARM Neoverse 64-bit cores) for their own AWS services, which amount to Others who are working on super processors based on ARM technology include Fujitsu, the maker of the A64FX, the processor that powers Fugaku, the worlds fastest supercomputer. Also, recently Ampere announced a 128-core server processor to complement the 80-core Altra Max they launched earlier this year. Apple potentially can develop a powerful competitor utilizing their own AS solutions to create scalable and megalithic systems that could be managed utilizing tools such as Macs, iPads and even iPhones. In short, the way I see it Apple didn't invest billions of dollars to develop AS just to enhance the performance of laptops and desktops for the status quo, among the company's long term goals is to dominate the enterprise cloud computing market. Disclaimer : This is not my comment. someone commented this on Rene Ritchie's video.. So I had to hear your Thoughts on this?? any answer maybe??
The Apple cases with magnetic connections are awesome... until you drop your expensive iPad Pro! They basically offer no protection at all. That happened to me, they had to replace the iPad because they can’t just replace the screen and I had to pay almost the same price as a new one. So, no more unprotected design cases from Apple for me!
Fuck it man, I’m gonna bite the bullet and spend the extra $150 and get the Magic Keyboard. I’ve been straddling on the two - mostly concerns without the price point of Magic Keyboard, and even though the Logitech is a neat and more than adequate alternative, something about the Magic Keyboard is just nagging at me to purchase. I think if I got the Logitech, I’d constantly be trying to justify it’s shortfalls and constantly be comparing it to the Magic Keyboard. I don’t know if this is materialism/consumerism - attachment to luxury brands working with the highest effect or what but... if it is, it sure is prospering. I just have to get the Magic Keyboard! My expenditure of going out; eating out and so on is usually around $200 a month anyway. Guess I’m just gonna have to survive on toast, ramen and enjoy my the confinement of my abode for a month... or two.
So from what I understand, Logitech dominates the MKB in utility and practicality, while MKB is the top choice if you want to show off and have slightly better key feedback. Logitech: -Actually protects the iPad -360 flexible, meaning you can draw, take notes, and get better angles -FUNCTION KEYS -Longer-lasting/less dirty material -doesn't cost literally another iPad MKB -the keys feel REALLY good -a charging-only usb-c port? -lose the ability to take notes/draw with the keyboard on -doesn't protect anything: it's not a case but just an attachment -super easy to take off -less wobbly on the lap -you'll look richer?
Who out there has a really small desk? Does anyone have a 8” desk? The answer is no.. lol! To me that’s a non issue. The grip on both are great as well. Oh no, you have to reach another 1-2 inches with the combo touch!! (Sarcasm) I have both cases, one for my iPad 7th gen. I have the combo touch keyboard and I have the magic keyboard for my iPad Pro 11”. They’re both great! All the little nitpicky things you find wrong with each are really not a big deal at all. My point is, you cannot go wrong with either one. 🤙
I bought the SwitchEasy CoverBuddy case for my 11” Pro from Amazon and it protects the sides while having good access to the buttons. It also has additional magnets that help to hold the iPad better. This system with the Magic Keyboard I find is the best. Can you do a review on this setup. Thanks
When I first watched this review, I was very unhappy because - 1) Apple is lacking ideas for new products. It's never been the same company after Steve Jobs left. Once it was a company who made world's first touch screen versatile mobile phone, now a day they sell overpriced wheels for there income. Truly they have shown the world, the power of brand value. 2) Logitech has done some excellent work within very low price. I think that the faults like backlift buttons etc.. are issues. Still Max tech is saying that every good in there product is because they work with Apple. But after going through the comment section, I became satisfied because at least the viewers know that what worth there money more.
When I face my logitech folio touch pro for ipad 11 inch when I flip the case for movie view will the keyboards get scratcged if there is a flat surface plz reply as soon as possible
ADIL SIDDIQUI , no.....if the keyboard isn’t being used, it isn’t consuming power. Neither have Bluetooth radios. Unless you are using a lot of backlighting, the power draw even while being used will be almost nothing. So while the iPad is off, neither keyboard is pulling any current.
This video was amazing Vadim! Looking at both cases side by side for so long was very useful for me. Both cases have strong and weak points (depending on perspective) and they encompass 99% of the potential user base. In my heart, I want the Magic Keyboard and now I can justify it in my mind as well. I have an iPad Pro 10.5 inch and am waiting for the new 12.9 inch redesign. When I factor the price of the iPad, the Apple Pencil and the difference between Smart Keyboard Folio vs Magic Keyboard - it is 180 € in my country. In my example, this is 11% difference comparing the total configurations. And I am getting a configuration that is more than 11% better :)
Bought a simple procase for now but thinking i will eventually get the magic keyboard. Do you know if it will work with the other case still attached? As I would like to have the benefits of the magic keyboard with the protection of a fully encompassing case.
The Logitech top flap also has a sleeve for the pencil when traveling for even more security, this is over looked by many. Great little feature. Great depth on the comparison. Here is to hoping for a 12.9 version. Love my Slim Folio Pro w/ a magic track pad II for now. The lack of shortcut/function keys on the Magic Keyboard is a deal breaker for me, just can’t understand why Apple couldn’t do it. They could have been small and under the angle of the iPad, you could learn them easy enough.
ATTENTION: There is a new firmware update that fixed the keyboard backlighting issue. Download the Logitech Control app to update :)
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Max Tech Logitech folio touch is better value
I prefer Apple magic keyboard because it’s slim and while note taking Logitech one becomes bulk. Apple one is a bit sturdy and slim so to conclude most of them come to iPad Pro over the others though pro maybe a overkill is only due to aesthetics so if the case is bulk it spoils the whole .
Make it rain all the dollars 🌧 💵 ☔️ and give me the magic keyboard
Apple Magic Keyboard Anytime of the Day.
Magic Keyboard. I am the guy who likes to hold a naked iPhone
I'm sure after an update to iPadOS any glitches on the logitech will be fixed.
@@cameronbosch1213 what about the trackpad jumping pages?
Other reviewers that beat this channel to the review by more than 20 hours said to update the iPadOS in order to fix the issues. A little research on their part would have paid off in the end.
Yeah so the “much, MUCH better trackpad for the magic keyboard” was pretty exaggerated and now that those issues are fixed...I just don’t see the point in forfeiting protection for “premium feel”
For almost half the price, the Logitech still is a pretty damn good deal given it’s compromises. And if someone’s never even owned the Magic Keyboard case,they might now even notice the drawbacks of the Cheaper Logitech lol
Factz it was a hard pill for me to swallow getting the magic kB 2 ran thru 3 different cases before and have to say I don’t regret my decision. I feel all the other keyboards are playing catch up at this point the bridge was close very close but the rubber feet at the bottom that holds the iPad to the keyboard wares over time.
Wargod Films wait so which do you have?
Nestor Zaragoza I have the magic keyboard 2 the $300 dollar one overpriced yes but after having it feel like I got my moneys worth
@@WargodFilms most of it at least
Tony NewGuy exactly, I appreciate this kind of reviews where you have product comparison but not feeling like one is absolutely the best, specially in a world where points of view are so different and budgets too
you have to update to iPad OS 13.6 for the backlights to work! I just did it and it works now
It can be updated thru the iPad itself right? Or do we have to visit the store to get it updated sole other way lol I'm confused
Asif Javed Nope, it can be updated via the internet, having to go to a store was 10 years ago lol
Yes you do need to visit the Apple store to fix this. Just go to the Logitech subdivision on the ground floor and from there follow the signposts for “peripherals”, then “keyboard”, and after about a mile you should see a plaque “Logitech software upgrades guru department”. If it says “Logitech software upgrades minions department” then you've walked too far.
@@Wishwader lmfao u high high
I'm using iPadOS 14 beta. Logitech just released a firmware update to their Logitech Control app. Works perfectly fine now
The Logitech Folio Touch keyboard case is way more protective for such an expensive investment like the iPad Pro
I mean, I don't cover my MacBook in rubber/hard plastic cases, nor I cover it with vinyl skins or anything. I just put it on a sleeve if I'm going to throw it in a bag, same thing with the iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard, same sleeve even most of the time.
An iPad isn't a phone, you have to actively try to drop it if you're using it day to day
Y AB Yeah but it's still a giant glass screen & metal & aluminum construction so I'd rather protect it to keep it looking brand new for years to come rather it get scuffed up, scratches, or get dented
MacBook can’t snap in the middle like the iPad Pro.
macbooks are harder than ipad. the ipads are easily scrach
I was happy to see a comparison between the two. But you made some points I cannot agree with:
-You compared the ease of removing the device from the case. Apples to Oranges my man. The whole point of the logtiech is that you don't remove it from the case. They designed it to not fall out so of course it will be more difficult remove. Instead of removing it from the case you wrap the keyboard around. That way the device isn't exposed while in tablet mode which it would be on the magic keyboard.
-You showed how inflexible the keyboard was on the magic keyboard by testing the keyboard. But when you went to test the keyboard flex on the logitech all you did is flex the hinge. 18:20 Again, apples to oranges. Of course the cloth hinge will flex. It's cloth. It has to fold around both ways to be used when the case is closed or completely open (in tablet mode).
I'm not trying to rip into you. Your points about the kickstand, the inaccuracy of the trackpad (and that it's diveboard), and how weird the flap was with the pen in place on the logitech were accurate.
Thanks for the review.
I was thinking the same and he was also constantly complaining about the hinge on the back while most people like versatility and the magic keyboard has only a small angle while logitech goes all in (in my opinion)
Why you people are angry 😂😂
Hamood Altamimi they aren’t angry, they are constructively criticizing the content.
Hamood Altamimi o no one is angry... just pointing out facts he missed...
The prime difference:
The Apple one is a "Fancy Keyboard with a flap"
The Logitech one is a "Case with a keyboard"
And that my friend sums it up in one go.........fair play
This would be a lot harder decision if they were the same price but the magic keyboard is just too expensive
Yeah if the price was $200 it would have been recommended by more people
I found some on fb marketplace making them cost the same so idk which one to pic
@@madmaniac6778 Now on Amazon it is $200. Which would you recommend for a college student?
@@stacia6678 idk
@indyZR :D :P I bought the magic keyboard, I’m loving it!
The Logitech top flap also has a sleeve for the pencil when traveling for even more security, this is over looked by many. Great little feature. Great depth on the comparison. Here is to hoping for a 12.9 version. Love my Slim Folio Pro w/ a magic track pad II for now. The lack of shortcut/function keys on the Magic Keyboard is a deal breaker for me, just can’t understand why Apple couldn’t do it. They could have been small and under the angle of the iPad, you could learn them easy enough. And Hey, when you max out a 12.9 for $2K+ CDN you want a bit of protection, your point is a little jaded when you get product sent to you for free.
At the end of the day your getting almost all the best features of the magic keyboard for half the price.
I'll take a slightly lesser quality to save that much money especially when I've already spent that much money for the iPad.
Edit: Spelling Correction
At the end of the end? wut
Also you’re* take slightly less*
No clue what you edited for correction since it’s still garbage lmao
@@Andy_M.S.c Well your just a ray of sunshine aren't ya bud...
Jesus Christ take a solid look at yourself. For you to be that hostile over literally nothing blows my mind.
@@Andy_M.S.c My apologies for quickly writing this out while at the hospital for my mother in law and missing a couple of things. But hey... hopefully that made ya feel a little better about yourself 👌
I think I had cancer reading this comment
That's just it. The cheaper option is “almost” as good. But considering everything you interact with and use constantly (keyboard, trackpad, proximity of touch screen, ease of detachment) is noticeably better on the Magic keyboard I'd say it's worth it.
Just by having the sides protected, similar functions, versatility, and cheaper....heck I’d go for Logitech hands down.👍
why would you convert your ipad into a laptop
Senpie .....because is mine and because it feels right to me for my personal usage about it. What’s the problem with that?
@@MaxKito2 why are you taking it personally? literally get a laptop if you need one. you are slogging this ipad down by putting such a bulky case on it.
Senpie not sure about the person on the comment, but for me personally, i want to make my ipad into a touchscreen laptop. my high school laptop was a lenovo yoga touchscreen laptop and i loved being able to tap on the screen if i was too lazy to move the mouse, but i love apple too!! (and lenovo yogas are ugly lol.) plus, i want to be able to take handwritten notes AND easily type essays on the same device. also (just curious), why are you on a video about keyboards for ipads if you’re against the idea of turning an ipad into a laptop? 😆
@@ClaireVandeman 😆😆😆😆😆 SO FUNNY😆😆😆😆😆
My overall thoughts:
The Magic Keyboard case is the more aesthetically pleasing option while the Logitech case is the more functional option. Sure the Magic Keyboard has the USBC port and the Logitech case is made from a better material, but my overall point stands. For most people, the Logitech case should be the default option if you want a keyboard. It’s only the die-hard iPad Pro fans that have to make the decision. Personally, I’d go with the Magic Keyboard case because I am that kind of iPad Pro user who cares about the aesthetics. But in the end, you can’t go wrong with either option.
I couldn't agree more. The reason I'd go with the Logitech case is I really like the protection it provides as well as the ability to use the iPad Pro in tablet form. Other than that I do really love the Magic Keyboard. I didn't like that price very much (haha) but it's a really nice keyboard case. Oh and I HATE how oily it gets.
Thank you! I’d much rather watch a review for the first time from someone like you who has a more fleshed out thoughtful opinion. This is a situation where both options are great but I think this video didn’t do a good job truly explaining the benefits of the Logitech.
I have a Logitech keyboard with media keys I forget are there and don’t even use. I appreciate how close the iPad is when I need to touch it. I also like the foot print of the Magic Keyboard. But it’s great to have options.
@@genefactor007 Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
Wonder why there isn’t a 12.9” model?
because there's 3 lb weights if you want to do arm curls.
can u tell me where I i can find it but, for the iPad Pro 2020 (4th gen) 11 inch cause I couldn’t find it anywhere.
uthman rashad it’s the same thing
uthman rashad the only difference between the 2018 and 2020 one is the camera and the camera cut out for the cases are big enough for either
Alpha delta alpha mike thx so much I thought they had 2 different cases. Also so sorry for the terrible English in the first comment. 😂
8:46 You’ll notice here that the Logitech has some lag to it. If you slow the video down to .25x speed, you’ll notice that when he lifts his fingers off of the keys and stops typing, the characters continue to input for quite a moment, compared to the magic keyboard where the input stops as soon as he lifts his fingers off of the keys and stops typing. You’ll also see the issue at 9:26. It’s pretty noticeable in my opinion, even playing at normal speed
he has to update the ipad to the newest software
That’s weird it had issues because I never had issues like that before with version for the iPad Air 3
after today's update from logitech,.there is no lag.
Update of the firmware or of Logitech App? How do I know if the firmware has been updated? I am sill having keystroke recognition and cursor issues (but I am running the developer Beta). Please clarify. Thanks
There’s no lag it’s just because the font is smaller
Are both iPads on iPadOS 13.6? I think another reviewer said the fluidity and of the trackpad and the backlighting keys on the Logitech were fixed in a recent update.
I watched this video earlier today and it helped me decide on the Logitech. I went out and purchased it. Using It now and I’m very satisfied. I thank you for your in-depth review.
There are quite a few things you didn’t talk about or gazed over. Like how you can use the Logitech Folio handheld. I probably won’t use it that way very often but it’s nice that it’s an option. Maybe you mentioned it but I missed it. Also, there’s a movie-like position mode for presentation, also a sketch mode position for drawing on the iPad with Logitech Folio. All things that make the Logitech Folio more flexible (literally) than the magic keyboard (which is a great keyboard as well). Just seems like you only made this video to say the magic keyboard is a trillion miles better than Logitech folio. I saw the product breakdown and it’s so worth it for the price but not even if you’re looking for budget. Even if you have the extra money to spend, the Logitech Pro is a severely great option alongside the magic keyboard. Durable, easy to use and things like the diving board trackpad is easy to get over, 🤷🏾♂️
oh yes, i wanna know how it works when im taking notes/drawing
That's the theme with all his videos. He is an apple sheep. Exaggerates anything that apple does a teeny tiny better and passingly mentions the achievements of competitors all the while making excuses for why apple is a victim who couldn't make their product better.
For ref, see where he compares trackpad sizes.
I think Max Tech has been using the Magic Keyboard for a while and the review is biased for that as the element of nostalgia kicks in. Logitech Folio Touch is objectively much better given the price and features.
You seem to be trying to promote apple’s keyboard...just doesn’t feel totally honest. For twice the money the Logitech seems like the best option.
literally.. it’s so annoying how he’s being super annoying with the keyboard (the logitech) and then being super rough with the flap when it was over the pen
like wtf ..
He's an Apple fanboy and this review is highly biased towards the magic keyboard. Of course it's gonna be better if it's twice as expensive. The real question is whether the extra money is worth it. Never is this mentioned in the video.
the only gripe I have with the video is the clear bias towards the magic keyboard just because it's apple. otherwise this is a great review outlining definitive differences between products
I had both. The kickstand is a nightmare. And its also waaaaay heavier. Returned mine the same day.
He mentioned how the Logitech was better in some ways than the magic keyboard multiple times throughout the video. Jesus christ you can’t say one positive about Apple ever without being called a fanboy lol
Lol he has used the magic keyboard though. I highly doubt you have, since every person I have talked to who owns one loves it so much.
@@victuringan1429 yea i dont like the kickstand
2:53 dumbest "advantage" of the magic keyboard, who even types in that angle??
Its usually nice when you’re in bed and you rest the ipad a little bit more elevated than your usual set up...
Idk may be a different experience for others, but it’s definitely convenient
Up against a wall on a small desk.
You have to update iPadOS to the latest version and then the keyboard backlighting will work for the logitech keyboard. Let me know if it works. Also, do you know if logitech will be making one for the 12.9?
This dude is truly an apple fan boy and did not give the Folio a fair shake. I have owned both and returned the Apple keyboard. Why? I wanted to be able to prop it up for hand written notes. If you are someone who writes with your Apple Pencil then the Logitech case is a clear winner.
Another note, the backlight issue was resolved. It works great.
can u tell me where I can but it from for the iPad Pro 2020 (4th gen) 11 inch cause i couldn’t find it anywhere pls
I have learned from experience even though apple accessories are more expensive the experience is much better
even though there are overpriced products, the experience is great
The things that they do right just feel so much better, everyone would want that extra little thing but I appreciate when they give me something I didn't even knew I wanted.
Agree 💯
impendio exactly, and I would argue that one should see it as an investment, I have an iphone 7s+ and it works wonders! also a mac form 2014. They are products to last definitely and you should give them the accessories required imo.
Please answer this: can you just tap to click on the folio touch, or do you have to click it? I personally prefer just tapping so if it doesn’t click it doesn’t really matter, as long as you can click on the top
You can choose in the cursor settings in ipad os
DrxkShadow464 thanks
yes you can
@@jerryli6763 No problem! Ask me if you have any more questions!
8:48 you get no lag and there is your lag staring at you right in the face LOL.
I meant no hate but that’s something that i saw too...
@Martha Speaks If its visible, then its not negligible :/
The thing that I love about the combo touch is the fact that the keyboard portion was able to disconnect from the case. As someone who uses my iPad for mostly handwriting, I really hoped that the folio would have a similar ability to detach the keyboard as it is what makes the combo touch so great in my opinion.
This. I wonder why its not a feature. The detaching feature is something really useful.
ADS SY I think the detach isn’t a feature most likely front the different locations of the smart connector. On the pro it is on the back while the air and iPad have it on the horizontal bottom of the device where the keyboard would detach so I assume it was an engineering complexity to add it in. Even still, I would be willing to pay a bit more for such a feature since it is something I would use constantly and is the reason I don’t have the magic keyboard, even tho it detaches it doesn’t provide protection.
I spent $328 on the magic keyboard plus $28 for a skin to cover the keyboard surface plus $43 on the cover buddy to kind of protect the back and sides and provide the place for the Apple Pencil, total 399. Plus tax. A Logitech rep just told me I can maybe expect a12.9 version of this more complete and useful keyboard case in a month, which would allow me to get back about $200, if I return the case Buddy this week. Or I can return all the accessories and the iPad Pro and almost have enough for a 16” MacBook Pro (yeah, I’d buy it instead of waiting)
Got it today and already decided to return it. It’s great, for the most part, but much bulkier and heavier than the apple magic keyboard case. I don’t know about you but I never have dropped an iPad so all that extra protection is a bit my. The function row is amazing and I don’t know how Apple missed that. This thing is heavy. Main reason I am returning is due to lack of lap usability. It is impossible to use it on your lap if you want to use the keyboard.
I find it surprisingly good in the lap, granted that I normally use it when sitting in bed or sitting in a recliner with my feet on an ottoman. Though I am typing now with my feet on the floor and it is fine as well.
It’s a subtle feature but the Logitech flap has a small sleeve in it to store the pencil even more securely. The Slim Folio Pro has it and I saw it on this video too.
Coming from a photographer or film maker's point of view who may use iPads for editing, data/storage transfer and overall laptop like workflow, I would now lean towards the ergonomics of the Magic keyboard for the simple fact of freeing up your single USB port for readers and external HDs and using the hinge port for continuous power or charging while you are working. That is a HUGE bonus in my experience.
People who complain about the lack of 360 fold for drawing etc. forgets that on the MK the iPad detaches with a finger and re-attaches perfectly just by placing it on because of powerful magnets, Plus you don't have a bulky case to hold that'll make it heavier.
I'm just wondering are the keys smaller since on the magic keyboard some of the keys are squished together, while it doesn't seem to be on the folio touch.
The Logitech seems to be wider because of the case thickness on the sides, that's probably the major difference
i have that keyboard and arrived today. the keyboard is actually amazing and wider. and from the video says, its lagging. after today's update, everything is smooth and so good.
Honestly, I have gotten used to the magic keyboard. With the 11 inch iPad Pro. I actually like how close they are, it’s easier to reach to the keys. Not a downside at all
@@jaynam6601 so the lagging goes away with the update?
They now have the combo touch version for the iPad Pro, it’s $199 and sold at Apple stores right now and coming to bestbuy at end of May
Am I the only one who noticed? In 13:57 - 14:20 he keeps talking about the brydgepro+ keyboard but it was not flashed in the video, it was rather the logitech combo touch for the regular ipad (i think) but still, kudos to you and your team! Nice review. I'm definitely gonna get this rather than the smart keyboard folio by apple.
I tested the MK the only downside i found is that if you are a writer or do a lot of typing it's not comfortable, keys are very compressed close to each other and I would prefer more key travel
Logitech just updated the keyboard configuration app in the past day or so to fully support the iPad Pro. Previously, it was only flashed for the Pro 10.5" and 3rd gen Air.
go for the logitech, the hinge of the magic keyboard case to keep it for drawing makes me nervous that over time it’ll be damaged. Also if the magic keyboard drops, that iPad is definitely breaking. Pay 300 for no protection is kinda silly
Pre-ordered it with a 35% discount. Got if for like $110.
How bro? Spread the knowledge wealth and help everybody save
really waiting for you to review iPad Pro 2020 Folio touch man ! great review as always .
Magic Keyboard is gorgeous but now i prefer Logitech Folio Touch .
It's more practical than the magic keyboard , *less aesthetic but more protection* .
Folio touch have function keys too which makes it more closer to a MacBook .
and budget wise (which makes me possible to purchase lol)
Magic Keyboard is almost the half the price of iPad Pro 11" ($300) which is hella insane for a keyboard and a trackpad .
Overall , the $160 Logitech Folio Touch is the real game changer for the iPad Pro 2020
It all comes down to price. The magic keyboard is almost double the price of the Logitech Folio Touch, and I don’t think it’s double better! If that makes sense lol
Re-tethered Tech can u tell me where I can but it from for the iPad Pro 2020 (4th gen) 11 inch cause i couldn’t find it anywhere if so can u plsssssss send a link pls
@@uthmanrashad775 Apple buddy I’m looking to get one for my iPad Pro 11 2020 they are £150
@@lukewalker3 it good overall especially for the price but keyboard is a bit bad
Haven’t received my M1 iPad Pro yet, but got the Logitech Folio Touch case to go along with it as I’m loving the Combo Touch on my iPad Air 3! Half the price, function keys, personally think it looks a lot nicer, more protective, and still has a keyboard I quite enjoy typing on. Also find it’s lapable enough and strongly prefer the design for media consumption. Greatly appreciate being able to hide the keyboard and prop the iPad up on my lap with the kickstand.
“plasticky denim” uhhhhhh. Idk it looks very similar to the material used by amazon in their newer echo devices.
True. I like that material though
The different is it's just for looks on Echo devices where as you interact with it on a mobile device.
@@meese1k Haha! I'd take 'plasticky denim' over that soft leather-like material of the Magic Keyboard. I have the Magic Keyboard and let me tell you, the thing is an oil magnet. Doesn't look all that great after some use no matter how much you try to keep it looking like new.
@@genefactor007 i have it as well, and you are completely right. My reccomendation, buy stickers!
On the Logitech there a tablet mode so you pull the tab keeping the tablet closed to the back of the case and fold the key board back
I would choose the Logitech keyboard mainly for the writing mode. I plan to do a lot of handwritten note-taking and the MK simply doesn't allow me to do so without taking the iPad out.
$300 is just so overpriced for an ipad keyboard/case.
Is there a hole on the bottom of the cover for the microphone?
Hope there is a 12.9-inch version
I just bought this keyboard. I don’t know what’s up with your ipad but mine doesn’t skip when scrolling at all. I’m also using the new beta 14 of ipad os. None of those issues exist on mine. You may want to look into that.
Michael Miller Same issue here. I am hoping that this is a beta issue. There are also moments when the key strokes don’t register. Are you finding the same thing?
This is my favourite tech review channel,
Sir Max Tech what would happen if you flip the folio keyboard on the back of the iPad and accidentally press it while gaming?
It gets disconnected when you flip it over
@@MaxTechOfficial Thank you sir I'm watching ur videos all the time. Your the best tech reviewer I've ever met. Keep it up sir.. I'm following Max Tech always! From the 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭GBU
I really thought Vadim was being biased before i got both in hand. I had already purchased the MK used before i ordered the folio touch. I told myself that the folio touch is just better all around. I got the Folio Touch yesterday and have been using it for 24 hours, got the MK today. I have to say that the MK is just all around more satisfying experience even without the shortcuts. Nice Review.. Did think it was bias but not anymore.
Thank you! :)
All around protection & pencil security vs flawless performance.... still some features left to desire from a $300 keyboard, I will wait for hopefully a better v2.0 of the magic keyboard
🤩🤩 This really is 100% what I've been waiting for!! But... for the 12.9“ model 😮😱
I've got this and it beats the Magic Keyboard pretty much across the board with regards to features and protection. It may not look as "cool" but it's far more functional and at 1/2 the price, it's a no-brainer.
The cost difference is definitely attractive. If I didn’t already have the Apple Magic Keyboard I’d definitely be tempted. But for me, this would be the only draw. I don’t care about the function keys - leaving them out allowed Apple to place the iPad significantly closer to the user. My setup includes the Switcheasy CoverBuddy case, which is a perfect companion to the Magic Keyboard. You get protection, including protection for the Apple Pencil, without losing the easy magnetic mounting. The case allows easy access to the hardware buttons, much better than the Logitech Folio. Still, as I said, the price difference may well be worth the compromises.
Anyone knows if the keyboard behind Logitech stop rocking when u turn it to the back os the iPad? Because if it continues running then we can’t actually use it with the keyboard on the back...
ruclips.net/video/wz5XahmlPKg/видео.html
He covers that in this video!
Troy Box thx very much xD
I like the naked feel, but my hands are very clumsy and my current iPad Pro 10.5 is basically shattered. Price does not matter, which should I buy? Also looking for 11 inch iPad Pro, any deals?
Thx
The Logitech is your fathers KB case and the MKB case is that kool kid that attracts all the ladies you want to hang out with. LOL.... I returned the 11" MKB case bc of the weight, small trackpad and the lack of function keys. I got the Smart KB case + Apple trackpad in SG and it works very well.
Where can you get the Logitech keyboard? Can’t find them anywhere
Use my link in description. There should be one to the Apple website
Max Tech looks like it’s not available in Canada yet
I think the combination of I-Blasson magic keyboard compatible bumper with Apple's magic keyboard and a second, regular , cheap TPU bumper if you want to protect your iPad when freeded, you get the best combination team. Apple's Magic Keyboard keying feeling plus trackpad snappiness is second to none!
Max, I purchased both devices, and you nailed it in the “FEEL” department. The Magic Keyboard just makes the IPAD feel like a different device changing the experience, something that you do not get with the Logitech Keyboard of any other keyboard. If you spend IPAD PRO money, you sure should take the jump and get the only keyboard that really makes this device EVOLVE.
Is the logitech folio touch compatible with Ipad Air 4 ?
Yes
best ipad pro keyboard comparison
really love this video man
Thank you for a really unbiased comparison. While I have a different Logitech Slim Folio kB for my iPadAir3, it has similar function keys. One of them I’ve never noticed before is the onscreen keyboard key. Thanks for enlightening me !!!
Personally, my decision is already made as I am typing this on a Magic Keyboard Case :), but for any buyers who are still undecided, here’s a few things I’ve noticed.
First, the immersive experience that the Magic Keyboard offers obviously is way more refined than that of the Logitech. The price may justify it for some consumers, but there is a particular market that will spend that extra money for the said “Apple experience”.
Secondly, the Apple experience can be furthered explored into software and bugs. The Magic Keyboard will of course be top notch as it is manufactured by Apple themselves, but because the Logitech is from a third party company, there will be several bugs. Yes these may be fixed in later updates, but for now, these bugs may be a determining factor.
Finally, the quality. Once again, harping on this “Apple experience”, the Logitech case along with any other third party case, will never be as sleek or as slim as the Apple cases. That is what Apple’s entire designs are based off of. Unique, modern, slim designs that no one has ever seen before. This intriguing market is why the Magic Keyboard has been selling so well (and will continue to). If you want the Apple “quality” and “experience”, then get the Magic Keyboard. Otherwise, save your money, get the Logitech, and perhaps invest in an Apple Pencil because it is totally worth $130 just to click it to the side of your iPad Pro every 30 seconds :).
Hopefully this was helpful to anyone who reads this and enjoy your day :).
Have a Logitech folio touch coming for my new iPad Air 4
Question, when you fold the folio touch behind the iPad, does it deactivate the keyboard to avoid accidental keyboard typing?
Yes. I just picked one up from the Apple store.
@@themsquaredgroup thank you, so the hardware keyboard is disabled and software keyboard will activate, right?
That said, backlighting seems to stay on when the keyboard is folded under.
Max your reviews are EPIC, I really really think you’re no doubt one of the best reviewers that can make us almost feel we’re using the products. Keep it on! 👏🏻
Agreed, top notch. Pros and cons clearly given. Feels balanced and unbiased and doesnt pander to partisans and narratives like some channels do.
Logitech targeted a good market. Basically whoever bought the 11 inch iPad Pro just wanted a great tablet for drawing, photoshop etc. So I don't think anyone will be buying a laptop dock like case for the 11 inch iPad Pro unlike the 12.9 inch which I believe people buy it for true laptop replacement(provided they have a desktop like Mac mini, iMac etc).
Nice review! After months of using the Magic Keyboard, I would strongly recommend make an effort to go for it. Might seem costly, but believe me, you won’t regret it.
This is my favorite tech channel thanks for the awesome review
Apple fanboy trying to defend a 300€ Keyboard
Not really bc he made me consider Apple over Logitech
Surprised I missed this video. Well done and largely agree with you. The keyboards really don't compete with each other. Two different markets. I thought I wouldn't get another iPad with the lack of useable, professional creative apps. But may have other uses that may justify upgrading.
I have the original Logitech Keyboard for iPad Pro 9.7" with SmartConnector. Still after 5 years. The thing works perfectly. Still. I've dropped my iPad in the case. No damage whatsoever. A piece of plastic broke off the case. But the keyboard still works perfectly fine.
If you have the 12.9" iPad Pro, there is only once choice as the Logitech still doesn't have a version for it. You brought up a good point: the premium feel. The ability to remove the iPad easily from the keyboard. The extra flexibility in the viewing angle. For professionals, all this makes a difference. I wouldn't use the iPad much as a laptop replacement so I think I could live without the functionality of the Logitech.
Good job with the comparison.
Do you know if the Folio Touch also fits the 2018 iPad Pro 11"? The Magic Keyboard does as far as I know.
Yes it does
Now im confuse. the Logitech provides more protection and its also serves the purpose and functions, well il go for Logitech. I might consider the cellular version of Ipad Pro
what i’m getting is that the magic keyboard has some creature comforts because they’re a first party product, doesn’t seem worth it though if you’re not gonna be using them as a laptop replacement and just need a good keyboard
Great review but you never talked about accessories that plug into the iPad. I've been hearing that the Logitech Folio Touch will not work on many accessories, one of those being the USB-C HUB due to the sides being covered in the plastic case but it does work with the Magic Keyboard..........your thoughts on this??
Please tell me, where should I keep my pencil if I but either of them? Its too expensive to leave it loose ..
Something has been nagging my brain since WWDC: the repeated mentions of Linux during the keynote. What if Apple was hinting at something major in the pipeline?
For years the company attempted to enter the server market, but while the MacOS is an exquisite consumer/workstation operating system, it has failed to make a sizable entry into the enterprise market, a market that is now dominated by various flavors of Linux. Now imagine once the migration to Apple Silicon (AS) is complete, and Apple has an AS competitor to Intel's Xeon that runs more efficiently, why stop just with future workstations like the Mac Pro or iMac Pro? Why not reintroduce a server branch of the Macintosh that not only runs MacOS Server, but also some Linux variant
- and as it will be a non-consumer product it runs natively instead of within a virtual
environment? It wouldn't be the first time the company would market a product that runs
a non-native software, remember the Apple Network Server (1996-7), which operated using IBMS AIX? Furthermore, why stop with just offering such a product to future clients, when Apple's own servers could herald the company's entry into the enterprise cloud computer market.
Apple is the largest tech company around, yet currently it is missing from an enterprise market where the likes of Amazon AWS, Microsoft Azure, Google and others are already massive players. In fact current Apple services like iCloud, the various app stores, Apple pay, ... etc.
already operate on non-native infrastructure (its estimated Apple leases Amazon AWS services for a 30 million dollar monthly fee), even though services amount to some 22% of the company's revenue according to the last quarterly report (a figure that is second only to iPhone sales and is roughly three times that of iPad sales). Once Apple starts to use its own
infrastructure for services, what will prevent the company from extending such services beyond the current consumer market into an
- 14% of quarterly revenue.
even more lucrative enterprise market? Amazon has demonstrated what can be done with their AWS Graviton custom built processors (developed using ARM Neoverse 64-bit cores) for their own AWS services, which amount to Others who are working on super processors based on ARM technology include Fujitsu, the maker of the A64FX, the processor that powers Fugaku, the worlds fastest supercomputer. Also, recently Ampere announced a 128-core server processor to complement the 80-core Altra Max they launched earlier this year. Apple potentially can develop a powerful competitor utilizing their own AS solutions to create scalable and
megalithic systems that could be managed utilizing tools such as Macs, iPads and even iPhones. In short, the way I see it Apple didn't invest billions of dollars to develop AS just to enhance the performance of laptops and desktops for the status quo, among the company's long term goals is to dominate the enterprise cloud computing market.
Disclaimer : This is not my comment. someone commented this on Rene Ritchie's video.. So I had to hear your Thoughts on this?? any answer maybe??
The Apple cases with magnetic connections are awesome... until you drop your expensive iPad Pro! They basically offer no protection at all. That happened to me, they had to replace the iPad because they can’t just replace the screen and I had to pay almost the same price as a new one. So, no more unprotected design cases from Apple for me!
Fuck it man, I’m gonna bite the bullet and spend the extra $150 and get the Magic Keyboard. I’ve been straddling on the two - mostly concerns without the price point of Magic Keyboard, and even though the Logitech is a neat and more than adequate alternative, something about the Magic Keyboard is just nagging at me to purchase.
I think if I got the Logitech, I’d constantly be trying to justify it’s shortfalls and constantly be comparing it to the Magic Keyboard. I don’t know if this is materialism/consumerism - attachment to luxury brands working with the highest effect or what but... if it is, it sure is prospering. I just have to get the Magic Keyboard!
My expenditure of going out; eating out and so on is usually around $200 a month anyway. Guess I’m just gonna have to survive on toast, ramen and enjoy my the confinement of my abode for a month... or two.
It’s worth it. I returned my folio touch because of the bugs
So from what I understand, Logitech dominates the MKB in utility and practicality, while MKB is the top choice if you want to show off and have slightly better key feedback.
Logitech:
-Actually protects the iPad
-360 flexible, meaning you can draw, take notes, and get better angles
-FUNCTION KEYS
-Longer-lasting/less dirty material
-doesn't cost literally another iPad
MKB
-the keys feel REALLY good
-a charging-only usb-c port?
-lose the ability to take notes/draw with the keyboard on
-doesn't protect anything: it's not a case but just an attachment
-super easy to take off
-less wobbly on the lap
-you'll look richer?
In general do you recommend the 11in ipad over the 12.9?
So what do I get for the 12.9 inch other than the magic keyboard
but can you write or draw on both of that case? you didnt mention it, that is the most important part.
Who out there has a really small desk? Does anyone have a 8” desk? The answer is no.. lol! To me that’s a non issue. The grip on both are great as well. Oh no, you have to reach another 1-2 inches with the combo touch!! (Sarcasm) I have both cases, one for my iPad 7th gen. I have the combo touch keyboard and I have the magic keyboard for my iPad Pro 11”. They’re both great! All the little nitpicky things you find wrong with each are really not a big deal at all. My point is, you cannot go wrong with either one. 🤙
I bought the SwitchEasy CoverBuddy case for my 11” Pro from Amazon and it protects the sides while having good access to the buttons. It also has additional magnets that help to hold the iPad better. This system with the Magic Keyboard I find is the best. Can you do a review on this setup. Thanks
When I first watched this review, I was very unhappy because -
1) Apple is lacking ideas for new products. It's never been the same company after Steve Jobs left. Once it was a company who made world's first touch screen versatile mobile phone, now a day they sell overpriced wheels for there income. Truly they have shown the world, the power of brand value.
2) Logitech has done some excellent work within very low price. I think that the faults like backlift buttons etc.. are issues. Still Max tech is saying that every good in there product is because they work with Apple.
But after going through the comment section, I became satisfied because at least the viewers know that what worth there money more.
When I face my logitech folio touch pro for ipad 11 inch when I flip the case for movie view will the keyboards get scratcged if there is a flat surface plz reply as soon as possible
Someone plz reply plz
Do they not have the Logitech polio for the 12.9 ? I can’t find it with the mouse pad
What if both comes in same price which one should be preferred?
Your voice is so relaxing yet still makes me stay interested and intrigued 😃
God, I wish they would just make a magic keyboard with the top row of function keys!
Do these keyboards consume battery while they are connected overnight.?
That’s a good question
ADIL SIDDIQUI , no.....if the keyboard isn’t being used, it isn’t consuming power. Neither have Bluetooth radios. Unless you are using a lot of backlighting, the power draw even while being used will be almost nothing. So while the iPad is off, neither keyboard is pulling any current.
@@fallsdp thanks 😊
It's not available in Canada right now :(
word 😞 hope they start releasing here soon bc my ipad comes in 2 weeks :/
This video was amazing Vadim!
Looking at both cases side by side for so long was very useful for me.
Both cases have strong and weak points (depending on perspective) and they encompass 99% of the potential user base.
In my heart, I want the Magic Keyboard and now I can justify it in my mind as well. I have an iPad Pro 10.5 inch and am waiting for the new 12.9 inch redesign. When I factor the price of the iPad, the Apple Pencil and the difference between Smart Keyboard Folio vs Magic Keyboard - it is 180 € in my country. In my example, this is 11% difference comparing the total configurations. And I am getting a configuration that is more than 11% better :)
Does the logitech flap ever wear down where it wont hold up the iPad anymore? I just got it and I’m worried that’s gonna happen soon
Bought a simple procase for now but thinking i will eventually get the magic keyboard. Do you know if it will work with the other case still attached? As I would like to have the benefits of the magic keyboard with the protection of a fully encompassing case.
no it definitely won't
The Logitech top flap also has a sleeve for the pencil when traveling for even more security, this is over looked by many. Great little feature. Great depth on the comparison. Here is to hoping for a 12.9 version. Love my Slim Folio Pro w/ a magic track pad II for now. The lack of shortcut/function keys on the Magic Keyboard is a deal breaker for me, just can’t understand why Apple couldn’t do it. They could have been small and under the angle of the iPad, you could learn them easy enough.
How to update the logitech case keyboard since i search app store there is no logitech app
Could you update iPadOS and confirm function keys and latency improved?