What I like about watching you guys fence with either of these combinations is how much more free your sword becomes. Some really beautiful stuff, and thanks for the commentary!
George Silver gave the sword & buckler odds over the sword & target for single combat, though he considered the target better for the battlefield. I always found the former claim counterintuitive, but perhaps he was onto something. It's possible he meant the somewhat larger English buckler rather than the typical small simple buckler, & we don't exactly what his target looked like either.
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Good video, nice bout. It of course depends on the fencer, but egnerally speaking the Buckler has the advantage while being smaller still having a big radius which it can cover being stuck out much further from the body. The rotella/targe has the advantage of covering more parts on one side without being moved around too much, but especially when it comes to enclosing, the Rotella is better to supress any counter. Then of course the differences between civilian/duel-like combat context and the warlike/battlefield context.
Very true, the conclusion would look very different in a skirmish context etc., but it was really surprising that the buckler did so well in a duel considering it is also so easy to carry. Just indicates why it was so popular.
It's a fun comparison but that works is barely bigger than the buckler, a shield big enough to cover the shoulder from a neutral position would change them game even more
I don’t know anything about historical sword fighting. Why is it that it looks you’re attacking each other blades? I have a kendo and kenjutsu background so the lack of tension is somewhat confusing to me, but I want to learn the techniques and philosophies of other sword styles so please don’t take my comment as rude!
Good question! :) so the beats to the blades are meant to displace the opponent's weapon to then use the opening for the real attack. This technique is actually contentious even among the historical sources though as every motion that is not a direct threat the one's opponent could present an opportunity for them to attack 😊 I'll talk more about it in a future video 😁
I think it's an artifact of their training being primarily single sword or sword and buckler. Thus they resort to what they're more familiar with. If they spent a few months working with a shield exclusively their game would evolve in interesting ways
@@fryerball While direct parries with the buckler are certainly a thing, the sources we work from very often use the sword on that line as well (either in a hanging parry or point up & forward).
As soon as there are any kind of ranged weapons I'd definitely agree :) But with "just" swords, covering one's openings with a buckler is actually fairly manageable. :)
Love the people in the background - "Are they swordfighting? Hey, come look, they're having a swordfight." Also love your commentary on the action.
Haha yes, and then there are the ones that look embarrassed to the ground and try to walk by asap :D thanks!
"I have the power of Hooty." More fearsome words have never been spoken.
Lol well spoken 🤣
What's life without a little bit of fun, right? :)
Awesome stuff, I love commented sparring - makes everything so much more entertaining!
Glad you like it!
It’s nice seeing explanations in real-time with the action. It’s such a clear line of cause and effect.
Thank you :) I'll try to comment on every sparring session from now on!
Please note, that this video presents just one (very subjective) data point for the question buckler vs. shield. So don't take it too seriously ;)
Great video - loving the hooty rotella and the playful sparring!
Thank you so much :)
What I like about watching you guys fence with either of these combinations is how much more free your sword becomes. Some really beautiful stuff, and thanks for the commentary!
Haha, yes - very true. The defensive tool just allows the sword to really play to its offensive strength :) Thank you! :)
George Silver gave the sword & buckler odds over the sword & target for single combat, though he considered the target better for the battlefield. I always found the former claim counterintuitive, but perhaps he was onto something. It's possible he meant the somewhat larger English buckler rather than the typical small simple buckler, & we don't exactly what his target looked like either.
This is honestly why I love doing these videos. Getting insights into other sources is awesome, thanks!
What a beautiful place to have a spar in 🤩
Which weapon combinations should we pitch against each other next?
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I think sword and rotella vs polearm would be interesting!
@@SevenStarsandSevenStones ah, good taste - that seems doable! ❤️
Sword and rotella vs Spadone!
@@GabrielfoBR That's going to be interesting! :D
Was eine Freude euch zuzusehen, herrlich! 🥰
Dankeschön :)
Good video, nice bout. It of course depends on the fencer, but egnerally speaking the Buckler has the advantage while being smaller still having a big radius which it can cover being stuck out much further from the body. The rotella/targe has the advantage of covering more parts on one side without being moved around too much, but especially when it comes to enclosing, the Rotella is better to supress any counter. Then of course the differences between civilian/duel-like combat context and the warlike/battlefield context.
Very true, the conclusion would look very different in a skirmish context etc., but it was really surprising that the buckler did so well in a duel considering it is also so easy to carry. Just indicates why it was so popular.
I liked that filming location
Thanks, we are really lucky being able to train there :)
Awesome shield design
Thank you!
would the shield be better if it was center-grip?
We'll check with different shield types in the future 😊
It's a fun comparison but that works is barely bigger than the buckler, a shield big enough to cover the shoulder from a neutral position would change them game even more
Awesome.
Thank you! :)
Where can I get some pants like Stefan?
These are from HighHillPants :)
I don’t know anything about historical sword fighting. Why is it that it looks you’re attacking each other blades?
I have a kendo and kenjutsu background so the lack of tension is somewhat confusing to me, but I want to learn the techniques and philosophies of other sword styles so please don’t take my comment as rude!
Good question! :) so the beats to the blades are meant to displace the opponent's weapon to then use the opening for the real attack. This technique is actually contentious even among the historical sources though as every motion that is not a direct threat the one's opponent could present an opportunity for them to attack 😊 I'll talk more about it in a future video 😁
I think it's an artifact of their training being primarily single sword or sword and buckler. Thus they resort to what they're more familiar with. If they spent a few months working with a shield exclusively their game would evolve in interesting ways
Not using the buckler enough.
In what regard? :)
@@SchildwachePotsdam Let the buckler do its job and block cuts to that side. You are using the blade to block cuts too much.
@@fryerball While direct parries with the buckler are certainly a thing, the sources we work from very often use the sword on that line as well (either in a hanging parry or point up & forward).
The bigger shield 🛡 is better because it has more coverage than with the shorter shield your body is more ⚠️EXPOSED ⚠️ !!!
As soon as there are any kind of ranged weapons I'd definitely agree :) But with "just" swords, covering one's openings with a buckler is actually fairly manageable. :)