Why Balatro Is The Best Roguelike In Years
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Thank you to my friend Jason for helping me film the intro skit!
Thank you to my friend Calyx for some jokes!
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"Straights, gays, and flushes" Ah yes my favorite poker hands
I think another beauty of balatro is the ability, and necessity, of the pivot.
It’s a flush build until it isn’t, and that’s pretty cool.
Its ALWAYS a flush build
I've found it's mainly possible early on to either blend flush builds with straight builds, or set builds with two-pair/full-house builds... but VERY hard to blend those groups with one another unless you're given a VERY VERY specific setup - like two Spectrals that change all to a suit *and* change all to a value... and that's where you peak at Flush Houses and Flush Fives (that's where your endgame is). But if you don't have enough focused strength in one or the other, it's nearly insurmountable to survive up to that pivot point... and impossible to survive too long past Ante 6 without beginning to blend them before that.
I could be wrong though.
Another beauty: the game respects your ability to become overpowered early. Many games try to artificially not let the RNG make you too powerful early on. It's a lot of fun to reach a build that destroys ante 8 at ante 3 and focus only on improving through the shop to go for a new high score attempt. You never know what you'll find and what could happen.
ALL HAIL BANA--[*EXTINCT!*]
oh well, never mind.
CAVENDISH INCARNATE!
This game puts me in an instant flow state. 2-3 hours gone before I realize it. I can't stop thinking about it. I got the theme song playing in my head most the day.
I really liked your point about easy readability and precise wording on the Jokers. It's easy to do a rough calculation in your head or compare jokers, if it wasn't, the game wouldn't be as good.
Thank you! :')
My intro to rougelikes was FTL: Faster Than Light.
such a good game
2:05 in theory is the act of painting in real life a roguelike. Each painting is a unique run and it will increase the skil for the next run. If you make a mistake you got to start over.
life itself would be a roguelike as well if you believe in reincarnation.
@@cyberstonksinstructions unclear, I'm about to commit suicide to restart the game
@@SuperMarioTomma95 Nah, you gotta get as far as you can in this run so you have more knowledge for the next one.
This video is of such high quality I subscribed after the intro alone and the rest of the video only proved to me it was a great decision. You deserve more recognition, great video 👏
I so rarely see anyone include footage for or even mentioned Tainted Grail. Kudos for that. Great game. (And great points about Balatro and the genre as a whole)
I definitely agree about how obtuse it is, though.
You know, I never had a care for this game because I don't like poker or anything similar, but seeing all of the positive reviews all over the web, I might go for it and give it a try.
it's real good :')
seriously. this video doesn't even scratch the surface. play it.
I agree with everything this review said and if you're like me and really don't really care much about poker, are disinterested in it or just think it's boring then there's a chance that you will absolutely love Balatro, it does a lot of interesting things that elevates poker to create something else entirely. However, poker is inescapably the foundation on which this game is built and if you have a strong dislike of poker then it may not be the game for you. I believe there's a demo, you should try before you buy.
I never have played poker, but I love Balatro
It really doesn’t have much to do with Poker past the surface
Super well done, I think the developer said the key to the entire game is the fact that you can’t see the score of your hand before you play it, that moment where you press play and hope for the best is what makes the experience
Thanks so much!
Doesn't make it a good experience for people who want to play it skillfully. Long term it will frustrate and make people lose interest and won't have lasting power of say StS
@@bashfulpanda2596 LOL
@@bashfulpanda2596You can estimate your score quite easily once you play the same hands a couple times.
@r3dsnow757 Sometimes you don't want to play the best hand to scale things like Square joker or Ride the bus. In those scenarios I may not want to play my usual hand. I may also want to plan out my remaining 3 hands to see if I would be fine to use intentionally bad hands or if I should play the best hand I have now and not run throw hands at all.
paused this video to play 2.5 hours of balatro now we back
Same here i only made it 6 mins in before i bought and played for the last 2 hours
help i'm 19/20 challenges deep and cant
and yes, all hail the banana. no spoilers but keep buying and eating bananas. it will pay off.
DON'T STOP YOU'RE SO CLOSE
@@Sputnik34 I WILL. I WILL DO THE FINAL CHALLANGE. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@@Crocogatorlive verdant leaf reaction
i think the last patch got rid of verdant leaf/crimson heart in [REDACTED]
@@swivelsaysno Thank goddamn super christ. I'm having a hell of a time on it.
This is really nicely written content. Excellent vocab and a really enjoyable turn of phrase. Good work man.
Very much appreciated :')
Yours is one of those channels where I know I'm gonna look back in a year and you'll have 500,000 subscribers, and couldn't deserve it more. Thanks for the video bud.
Thank you so much 😭
I personally love the feeling of an "authored" difficulty, for instance a game like Doom or any other myriad FPS, or Dark Souls, because the escalation is learnable. But I do also love the feeling of a roguelike run being fueled by insane luck, finding a perfect combination and letting it rip. I think Balatro is a great middle ground because some strategies carry a lot of weight, especially at the start of a run where Jokers and other factors are less influential on your score total, and instead you need to rely on digging through your deck for a good hand (RNG is still a factor, but being able to count the cards allows you to make decisions off of probability instead of purely chance).
I also think this is partially why competitive game likers also tend to like roguelikes, because the on-the-fly decision making married with some tried and true game knowledge can take you incredibly far, but also some bad outcomes that are out of your control require some dynamism to find a solution which can make you feel really smart when you pull it off. This is something that authored difficulty just can't do since you always have the (idealistic) opportunity to "play perfectly." Sometimes being forced into a bad situation makes you appreciate good situations more.
Anyways, good game and good video.
I completely agree, i got a friend to buy this game and after 10 hours he said to me "i think i like whatever genre this game is". To me its almost ironic hearing that as I grew up on roguelikes like Gungeon, Isaac, Nuclear Throne etc. But he absolutely fell in love with the genre and I now steam family share him my library so he can enjoy games like Isaac. DOnt think he ever wouldve tried if it werent for balatro. It also is just the best roguelike i think ive EVER played. Its the best thing since sliced bread.
Once it will be out for smartphones in a bit... we have it ALL THE TIME... but don't have any time left for anything else 😅
really good review! i especially loved the bit at the end involving the particle accelerator; such a unique descriptor, and as someone who's now hit over 200 hours in Balatro, it's such an accurate comparison, too
Thanks so much :')
absolute banger of a video
Thank you!! 😭
Watching any clip of balatro not at 4x speed physically hurts
Nothing can beat the feeling of defeating a boss with 1 HP left.
You only have 1hp in balatro though?
Or beating the boss with a single hand.
nothing can beat the feeling of beating a blind with just a couple extra chips in your last hand
@@tylerduncan5908unless you have the mr. Bones joker lol
@@tylerduncan5908you can barely pass by with a few chips
Grabbing it immediately next time it goes on sale. Can't wait!
Great video. You should have much more subs!
thank you!
Playing my deck on my Deck. Great times.
I've been playing the baltaro multiplayer mod as of recently and it's the most fun gaming experience I've had in ages
I became a subsriber at 12:09 in your video. (Yow you know slay the spire)
Glad to have you! Thanks :')
@@Sputnik34 yas welcome!!!
Rube Goldberg machine is a good analogy
How'd you get your clubs cards to appear as blue instead of black? That looks so helpful. Awesome video by the way!
There's a high contrast option in video settings, I believe!
@@Sputnik34 Wow thank you this is going to save my ass!
Balatro be ballin
As a big fan of slay the spire I might have to give this a go, great video btw 🤝
My friend,
what about enter the gungeon!?
-your friend
Good vid! I love Balatro, love it so much I’ve made a conscious decision to stop playing it…else it take over my whole identity
LOL yeah that sounds about right 😵💫
It's like quitting heroin, it's only temporary and will stick to your mind forever. The current experimental branch version is even more addictive
My favorite roguelike is still Noita. But I like the simplicity Balatro has. If I'm ever sick, or not feeling well, I'll do a few balatro runs. I can do a run during lunch at work on my Steam deck too.
An amazing video
🗣️📢 BALATROOOOOO
Note that the scaling in endless mode is tetrational, proportional to x^x^x. At the moment, there isn’t a way to scale one’s hand at O(x^x^x), but this problem is obscured by the Ante 39 naneinf glitch.
Another wonderful card game is inscryption. You unlock a special roguelike mode using a cheat code or beating the main story
I loved that game!
My entry to rougelikes was Isaac I love that game so much
Well said
Alina of the arena
Microugelike: difficulty processing increase rougelite
Bought the game due to this review and am very glad that I did. Thank you!
That's amazing to hear! I'm glad!!
I’ve had such a struggle the last like 2 months honestly being able to beat the game or the first 8 antes or whatever. Love the game and hoping something will click soon.
Keep at it! You'll get there!
Balatro university is the man for all things balatro. Helped me a lot. Good luck 🤞
Two tips I’d offer up that have helped me on my runs:
Prioritize getting 1 impactful multiplier Joker early on. You want to try to win as many early hands as you can in one or two hands in order to maximize the extra money you can get.
And attempt to get to $25 in cash on hand as quickly as you can, then don’t spend under unless you have to. What this achieves is an automatic $5 in interest every hand you play, which equates to being able to buy an extra card park/Joker every time you hit the shop. This will quickly add up to a lot of bonuses that will help you get further.
I also prioritize the Planet cards as they increase the base multipliers of your hands which give more for your Jokers to work off of. Hopefully these tips can help you with that elusive win!
@@Nytraz Thank you! Just now reading this. Played a ton the last couple days and got to the last boss blind like 3 times and didn’t get it. Gonna follow your tips I appreciate it.
Good vid and editing. What's the outro song? Sounds neat.
Its one of the songs from Tetris on the CDI I believe 😂
Another banger vieeo!
Jupp, this game is a masterpiece. It’s honestly unbelievable how good it is.
GOTY contender!
As a Magic the Gathering player, this game does delight me.
Always take the banana.
Bananatro
Balatro might not be the best game ever. But it is one of the most perfect
you should try Slice & Dice
part of me wonders if a game like balatro could be used as some sort of replacement for actual gambling. it hits some of the same notes as actually playing poker at a casino, except all you lose at the end of the day is some time instead of your house
That's the thing, addictions are not to be replaced, you should quit.
The only problem I have with this game is that there are very few strats you can do to beat the highest level challenges like gold stake. That can be fixed though
Play the experimental branch
I love that this game it gonna be a lot of players 1st rogue-like/rogue-lite and will open the door to SO many other rogue-lites
Like for me i started eith TBoI, then branched out to Streets of Rogue and Revita and now i have WAY more rogue-lites than i could ever dream!!
Balatro is great!! Give it a shot yall!!!
What is the game shown at 2:31?
This is only related to your sketch in the begining and nothing else, but when me and my brother were kids we were playing a game of BS sitting on the floor by the couch. We were in deep and he laid down some cards and said "5 Aces". Obviously I called bullshit and he indeed flipped over 5 Aces. He found one under the couch while we were playing.
I wouldn't necessarily call it the best, but most probably it's the most addictive.
i think Hades Is better but for far balatro Is most addictive
And easily understandable.
It won't have staying power once the novelty wears off.
Haha subscribed
What game is the third person shooter at 1:37?
Returnal!
I love this game especially when my first (and only) win was being some kind of Emperor
My deck was made to hold onto Kings so i kept getting more kings and turning them into Steel cards
One Joker gave x1.5 mult per king in hand
One joker retriggered all hand cards
One Joker gave a dollar 1 in 2 chance per face card in hand
One Joker gave a x0.25 mult per steel card in deck which i got to x2 mult
One joker gave a x3 mult if i had 16 or more upgraded cards in deck (i had exactly that when i got this joker)
No i didn't miswritten the mult from + to x they were all multiplicitve mults
I basically wipe bought the entire shop every time,
i had a few kings that made planet cards by being in hand on round clearance and just had like 12 kings or more in deck
My best hand was was a measly 1.2 Mil Chips and i won the final Ante Very Big Boss accidentally when i ran out of discards and didnt want to use any of the 6 or 7 kings in my hand so i played a card and won by a High Card 316K
P.S: i didn't focus on upgrading a specific poker hand meaning it could have been waaay madder
1:41 What game is that?
12:20 dude thats gros Michael
i think inscryption with kayce's is the best rougue like ever made
Nobody want to talk about the fact that if you don't drop a correct +mult joker by ante 3 you're basically dead ?
That's what frustrate me the most in balatro, this hit or miss each damn run, that I didn't felt in Slay the spire or Dicey Dungeon. You either destroy the 8th boss because stars align or you loose vs 3rd small blind because you're stuck with Odd Todd...
That’s an argument against roguelikes, if you don’t get upgrades then yes-your run will end. By ante 3 there are plenty of opportunities to upgrade hands and purchase jokers.
@@socrates7722 I beg to deffer, there is a shortness in balatro runs that makes this problem really showing compared to others. And also, there is an imbalance in Balatro, not that present in other games making some cards really indispensable compared to others. From a guy who played card games and roguelikes a lot.
For example, If we talk Slay. How many card choices you have before first boss ? RNG is smoothed by number of choices. In Balatro, there is few choices compared to other games.
Also, If you don't get a +mult joker specifically, Show me a run where you go farther than ante 3 (without Plasma deck - of course). In other roguelikes, you have more time and more build possibilities.
I'm frustred because I relaunch so many runs, so early..
But then again, may be I play real bad..
Happy to have your thoughts.
@@ThePiiX Skill issue /hj. For lower stakes most runs are winnable, you just have to be very flexible and aggressive with your money. Don't get me wrong, there are runs that get snuffed by RNG.
For higher stakes though, a lot of runs do get snuffed out early by RNG. The creator has an AMA where he addresses a lot of the issues.
Luckily this game is new, and will see improvements. StS was not perfect on release, it's damn near perfect now after many many many updates.
I played for 5 hours, progressed to harder levels and realised the game is just an RNG reset fest, unless you choose the busted deck that starts with extra money.
The game is a 2/5, I’m going to continue playing StS as it’s a million times more enjoyable
Skill issue, Best streamers win gold stakes 10 times in a row.
Rouge like
Um so, returnal doesn’t exist?
it's a good roguelike but, I gotta say, it's not Exactly a roguelike. It's a hybrid. It's a perfect hybrid, even. or, even, it's a minimalistic roguelike, being that the game of poker has a ceiling to it, and once you reach that ceiling, it's no longer all that fun.
But everything you've said has rung true. It may very well be the best in years. But do you not simply say these things because they get the clicks? There are always superior things out there that just didn't get the same attention. And anyway, yeah I'm just being that "well ackhtually" guy but
this is a game that rewards being precise, and playing it has made me realize how much I want to be precise about other things, such as calling a roguelike a roguelike or a spade a spade.
In the next seven pages, I will fully divest upon
just kidding of course
I just wanted to say, there aren't enough dark corridors for it to be a roguelike per-se. but it also skirts simply genre definitions. It's a deck-builder More than a roguelike. There, I found an out
Whats the game at 0:56
Im unwilling to call it good until I dont have to reset half my runs in higher stakes due to poor rng. higher stakes need a lot of rebalancing.
If the game was balanced around gold stake it would make the lower stakes semi pointless, it’s the games hardest challenge I think it’s ok that it’s unforgiving, and you need to get lucky to make it work. I do think straights need a buff though, it’s the hardest hand to manipulate your deck into working.
@@MulletMonk not just gold, i can only do so much when all jokers i get are for straight flush, four of a kind, or just something completely unlikely. or i decide to take a voucher that puts tarot or planets in the shop then i only get 2 jokers by ante 3 because it wont give me anything but tarot. or the boss destroys my build and i havent see luchador or the voucher that saves me. i wouldnt complain if i had more control over my failed runs but when ive built the best given what i had its just infuriating.
@@MulletMonk also dice rolls arent difficulty its artificial difficulty. yes you can smack your head against a wall until you get lucky but that isnt fun its a waste of time.
I fully agree, I feel like the game is just balanced around lower stakes and often times on gold stake you're gonna lose just because the game said so. I'm not saying that this doesn't happen in other games but often with this one you really feel like the out was just "get luckier".
The thing Balatro has distinctively done is... after 10 years of expansion upon what Roguelikes/Roguelites are, it does the opposite. It distills Roguelikes to the minimum viable premise - the blend of skill and luck and in-game mechanic manipulation/balance adjustments - and simplifies it to the core of what that is, through the everyday common lens of poker. It's brilliance lies in its simplicity... and its unpredictability.
I bought this game after seeing all the hype, but it’s a huge let down for me. I’m almost 100 runs in and I rarely get any joker in the shop that adds mult before ante 3, and I’ve never gotten past ante 4. I almost always have to brute force the first two antes with no jokers.
Do you ever skip turns in favour for jokers/packs so on?
That's one way to get past it faster.
Then go for boosters packs, steel cards and celestial (planet) packs :)
I’m not a card game player, so this game was skipped over. I’m kinda shocked that the game blew up however.
It's real dang good
As someone who just started playing Balatro yesterday and has never played poker beforehand, this game is easy to learn and difficult to master. (also, the gameplay in the video was so painful to watch JUST TAKE THE F****** FULL HOUSE, WHY DID YOU TAKE THE 2 PAIR YOU GAIN NOTHING FROM KEEPING IT A GOD DAMN 2 PAIR!!!)
Edit: that last part was greatly exaggerated
Cause I likely had jokers that benefitted 2 pair
@Sputnik34
On rewatch I only found 3 minor mistakes. For this reason I retract my statement, since none of the 3 were the mistake I mentioned and 3 mistakes that didn't have much impact is more than acceptable.
10:16
18:18
19:16
Maybe its controversial but holocure is better vampire survivors. And me as someone looking to make a holocure inspired game have only played several roguelikes. Maybe I need to try balatro as well. I like the daily run with modifiers and no seed rng from STS but not sure how that would combine with holocure mechanics. Perhaps the clarity of the descriptions is somehting I could learn from balatro.
Why lol? That Wikipedia definition of roguelike is quite good. I would rather say "a game that is like Rogue" or "single-character grid tactics" but still, good enough.
rouglite > rouglike
If you think the game is perfect try playing on purple stake and above
why is it called balatro
I believe that it refers to a jester
I know RUclipsrs got to exagerate to reach a bigger audience (which you did btw this was in my rec page congrats lol) but comparing Balatro to StS or Inscryption is so hyperbole
The game is fun don't get me wrong but lets be real its a casual dumbbed down roguelike for bathroom breaks
It gets carried heavily by real life slot machine techniques (the big numbers only showing at the end with growing fire, the fancy card vfx, the literal poker theme lol)
But at the end of the day it boils down to getting money early to get mult jokers and getting rid of bad cards and duplicating your good ones
It's a great deal at 13€ but it has nowhere the replayability of other classic roguelikes imo
Basically if you like Slay the Spire, Balatro will feel lackluster to you quite quickly
But if Slay the Spire seems too complex to you, you'll love Balatro
12:38 u might just be slow idk
It captures the essence of one of the best (if not the best) card game. There's a reason poker is as popular as it is. Try it out sometime
You said that balatro is perfect, I don't know if I can take this video seriously. I play balatro and like it, alot. But I don't think balatro is particularly simple and as for "elegance" I agree that simple fractions and integers are easier to read than percentages and balatro's wording is quite good. I still think that there is some ambiguity in the text. For example in the voucher that gives you "+1 hand per round" my first though is that it would be cumilative but it is actually just a permanent +1 upgrade. I don't think balatro is "perfect" like you said.
I just wish this game would show me the value of a hand before I play it instead of making me break out a calculator
I think not knowing is part of the fun!
@@Sputnik34I find that frustrating. Deciding between 2 hands without knowing the value of each detracts from the game significantly imo. Its a good game, but a poor strategy game.
Simple is better
Anyone gonna talk about how he just said the wrong joker effects qt 11:51? Like there’s almost nothing in the game based on percentage
Those were custom cards I had made to l as an example of cards that a lesser game would likely have
@@Sputnik34 oh my bad 😅
I love deckbuilding roguelikes and this game just seems like the most boring of them all. Its literally poker with a bunch of wildcards thrown in. There are like 1000000000000000 roguelikes with cooler concepts and card effects.
the game that gives me similar vibe to Balatro but a bit more fuzziness is Luck be a landlord. i recommend anyone who already has 100 hours in Balatro and needs a small break before grinding balatro again.
as much as I love balatro, maybe you should try Slice and Dice, it is much better as a game, only being a bit more complex than Balatro.
It looks well-designed, but seems like it requires a lot of poker knowledge. I definitely wouldn't consider it a good entry game for the roguelike genre, especially since the game stretches the limits of genre already. While the subject of what defines a roguelike is very controversial and there's plenty of "purist" sentiment, I do think the term gets thrown around undeservedly and as a big roguelike fan I wouldn't consider any of the games you've shown in the clips of the videos true roguelikes, but instead roguelites.
Also, side comment, it's spelled "rogue"; "rouge" is French for red 😂
Holy shit thank you
As someone who played with very little prior knowledge about poker, it was very easy to pick up and play for me. All of the different hand types as displayed very clearly and easy to see,(Only about 10 different hands) aslong as you have a basic understanding on math/probability you should be alright. Would def recomend this as an intro game i think Sputnik was spot on.
I cant consider Balatro to be a good entry point really, its not even good for what it does, you can easily walls where no matter how good you are, you can't win, you need several luck in your favour and you need to actually learn which jokers can be good and you need to learn how to really manage your hand.
Personally I didnt like Balatro because its more frustrating than fun, because even doing the best hands and taking good Jokers sometimes doesnt lead you to even win the 20k blinds.
I did seveal extremely good runs and had trouble with the 35k blind...
“You can easily walls where no matter good you are”
Welcome to roguelikes
“You can’t win”
Welcome to roguelikes
“You need several luck in your favour”
Welcome to roguelikes
“You need to actually learn which jokers can be good”
Welcome to roguelikes
“You need to learn hoe to really manage your hand”
Welcome to roguelikes
@@socrates7722Most action roguelites (say, Hades, Gungeon, Isaac) can be won if you're skilled enough. Meanwhile a turn-based, "time"-based (since your turns/hands are limited) is much more likely to screw you up via RNG and impossible to win, no matter how good you are, because Balatro relies a lot more on metaprogression than the aforementioned games. That's simply a fact. this does not make Balatro bad, but it's still true.
This is not a roguelike. Sorry to be elitist but it looks nothing like Rogue. There’s a wide-spread misconception that you perpetuate by titling your video as “roguelike.” You can call it a roguelite, but it’s not a roguelike.
There’s a reason why the term roguelite was invented. When games are mis-titled and the genre becomes diluted with vastly different derivatives, the word loses its meaning.
No.
seems quite boring to me. i hate poker so I will pass
I love roguelikes but when im playing balatro all I think about is that I could be playing another game its just not my type of game I find it really boring
Only an amateur would say that. There's no skill required, just repeating the rounds till a good "multiplier" joker turns up. The rest is padding.
Tell me you suck at Balatro without saying you suck at Balatro.
Depends on what stake you're playing on. If you're playing on the easiest difficulty, you should be able to win basically every time
Everyone and their late grandmothers have been talking about this game, and it's recommended on every single RUclips page.
It's somehow even _more_ disinteresting than I imagined.
Oh dude you really gotta learn your definitions of rogue like and rogue life better
I was just speaking generally
What's a rogue life? 👀👀👀
@@RolandIronfist13technically life is just a really long roguelike run
@@RolandIronfist13he means roguelite
Hades won
I personally wasn't a big fan of Hades :'(
really don t like balatro execpt for the first hours but then become just boring and braindead just waiting for good jokers aty the opposite with real good rogue like where u can play and have fun without having the best item in the game
In years? It isnt even the best deckbuilding game in years... It's terribly balanced the higher antes were an afterthought and it doesnt have so many ui features to make it actually skillful. I shouldnt have to pull out an excel sheet to know how much my hand will score. I did, however, have fun with it, but I dont think it will have staying power.
Skill issue
@@Bean891 New patch directly addressed the issue with higher antes and I would say it's a step in the right direction. The dev still wants to lean more heavily into the luck based element of the game which can be overcome with skill, but imo will affect the game's longevity. Or it will become one of those games where the mod community makes it a good game by adding basic ui features and the needed additional content to give the game staying power. But sure man.
Skill issue
@@Bean891 Good talk.
Skill issue