What if California Was An Island?
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Back in the 17th century the Spanish believed California was a large island simply because they didn't explore it. So what if in an alternate timeline, they were right and California was an island. How would this change history?
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Hey everyone, so I'm having a livestream at 6 EST with EmperorTigerstar. We're discussing this new video and other history related topics! Stay tuned.
What if nuclear weapons were never invented?
AlternateHistoryHub What if the Chinese Communist Forces didn't win the Chinese Civil War?.
AlternateHistoryHub what if New England never colonized The New World(America)?
AlternateHistoryHub Can you make a video what if Russia won the Russo-Japanese war and What if Soviet Union or China won the Sino-Soviet war?
What if the roman empire never existed?
Meanwhile in and alternate dimension
What if California was connected to the rest of America
Lol
Don't be an idiot, those alternate universes could be real, and they might be wondering the same thing...
Milan Milanović leave him alone
Milan Milanović u too.
In an alternate alternate dimension. What if California crashed into Earth.
Now do "What if Australia won The Great Emu War?"
et 37 Y E S
There would be one less glorious meme
As an Australian I do indeed wish to see this.
I’m pretty sure the requirement is they “could” have happened.
Australia would be a Utopia
It still can be an island. Everyone get your saws. We meet in California on Monday.
Daddy Donald lol
Yes please
Am in Canada tho
Do we need to build a sea WALL around it afterwards? 😁
No point if Kim Jong Un actually comes through and nukes California
AHH : what if california was an island
california fault line : hold my beer
fl00fydragon lol
Lol
It’s impossible for California to become an island because the San Andreas fault won’t crack open, it would just move to the right. San Andreas will never happen.
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Would explain gta 5
And 4
but how does the city shrink
Johan Fausto you mean San Adreas,
Skeet obviously shark hacks
Gaming Master Anthony San Andreas had Las Vegas tho
Then the GTA V map would've made sense
The Iron Dictator lmao
The Hentai Man Yep, that too
The Iron Dictator so rockstar uses old spanish maps to make its games! Gotcha!
It also explains the read dead 2 map too
Thanks for doing the anime no sekai mod
Man, I fuckin' love this channel.
Edit: I got an idea: What if William McKinley wasn't assassinated, or what if the Zimmerman Letter was successfully delivered?
John Spade don't we all?
Aaron Thomas Nice
You only got top comment because of that picture.
Reallifelore is better
same
If California was an island, I doubt the 2 mile cliffs would extend to the coast. There isn't much of a precedent on Earth for such stuff to happen. Plus, you have to factor in erosion.
In the past when continents split, it is believed they had really steep cliffs, comparable to the 2 mile cliffs. But let's say we ignore anything before the Jurassic Period on the account maybe the geologists didn't get their calculations right and focus on the primate era. We still have the Cliffs of Dover. You might argue that that's not as high, but it's basically enough to bar crossing the Strait of Cortez for a pre-industrial society. And even after humans get excavation tools, who's going to remove those cliffs to get a port when Sonora works just fine? So in then end, not much changes with the smaller cliffs unless there are footpaths through them at reasonable inclines for humans to walk.
@@alex_zetsu Well, going aroubd the horn of africa worked "just fine" too, but we still built the suez canal. connecting the island of california to the mainland physically, via bridges or anything else, would drastically improve on the amount of fuel being spent in oceanic transportation.
@@2DMax00 Oceanic travel is actually cheaper than truck if you're not in a hurry, but ship is slow I guess saving time is something humans like to do. But at least early on in the video, the things he suggested would still largely play out since until such a project is done, the cliffs are an effective barrier.
Who says that California would even have the exact same geography as real life, considering this video is literally about the opposite? If this video is based off of how the Spanish portrayed the Island of California, it's much more likely they would have portrayed the strait in between California and the mainland just as how it appears Between Baja California and Sonora, for example.
Yes but that isn’t what that areas geography is. That area where the strait is, is mountains and hills with high elevation so they would be cliffs. Plus the environment wouldn’t really change it would still be desert-ish because the mountains on California island would still block cool sea air from reaching the area thus stopping erosion from taking place with rain
I can see a bridge being proposed between the isle and the mainland, but could you imagine what kind of undertaking that would be?
(Edit: Oh boy. While this has resulted in the discussion I was looking for, it seems y'all have missed what I was pointing out. Which was "How ridiculous would it be if someone suggest to build a bridge, and what kind of undertaking would unfold if they even tried to?". That's why I used the word "proposed". I was simply pointing out a humorous thought. But I am glad to see a general discussion on how it wouldn't work, and suggestions that work around the problem. Interesting concept.)
With 2 mile high pillars on a fault line? No... that's ridiculous. Plus, it's be like what 200 miles long?
OneManArmy Welp, they could always use nuclear warheads to demolish part of that canyon to level up the land, then you could build that bridge ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Then everybody who drives past would get a nice dose of radiation poisoning, along with everyone who built it.
BandidoTread198 We've demolished mountains before without nukes. We can do this.
Steve Larry welp, i included nuclear warheads only to fasten the proyect, but it could also be made with conventional explosives too
But those cliffs would be a huge tourist attraction.
SagaHub Literally.
I'd definitely go see it.
+SagaHub
#1 suicide destination, for sure
C. Lamp lmfao yep
SagaHub I'd go
+C. Lamp
omg, you are right. There's no way it couldn't be.
I'd imagine people who really want to end their lives would probably even empty their bank accounts to get a ticket from all over the world to use that cliff, it would just be that special.
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Alternate History Hub: “What if California was an island?”
The other 49 states: “So you’re saying there’s a chance?”
California: breaks off and turns into an island.
* 2 weeks later *
Bible belt: Hey wtf, why aren't we being subsidised anymore?
DC: Sorry, all those tax dollars are gone.
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@@tanzeel444 California. Tax dollars California doesn't support the US, all its taxes go to pay for its own social programs, that it cannot support, and those Bible states, also would have to supplement the largest states power grid, and clean water. They would all be off, as they would. California's GDP is high yes but none of that money actually supports the citizens of California, as it has the highest unemployment and homeless, California is a shit hole that cant support itself.
@@hybris8383 the biggest problem is majority of these people leaving bring their failed politics to the states they move to.
They try to flip states they move to to the same political problems that brought California to what it is now. Without the economy to sustain the policies.
@@tanzeel444 I love how you Californians desperately attempt to convince others that the existence of your state is actually beneficial.
Now I really want to see those 2 mile cliffs.
Mars had even larger ones, as does one of Uranus' moons.
It would be los santos
Joseph Stalin ha
Los Santos is a city. California would actually be San Andreas. Great comment though.
Joseph Stalin it was LA that came from someone who's never played GTA5
yea, Los Santos is huge and contains many regions of LA, from Malibu to further north...
Ofelia Esparza or gta San Andreas
What if the humans won the great emu war?
Dumbo Octopus Australia would have conquered the world by now
Dumbo Octopus world peace
its funny that thats a thing
We would be on Mars by now
Utopia
You're forgetting how geography affects weather. Those seaside cliffs would get that cooling coastal current that would bring in rain and moisture. Nevada would have a "southern California" weather. The new wine country of America. Utah would have Oregon rains.
You're pretty right too by affecting weather.
And slowly changes if you think million of years before human arrival.
The Californian Island & Western USA would be greener than current timeline.
You forgot one thing, Arizona would be jealous by California’s canyons
xD
whats next? "if England was a city".
Gørl.
What if England wasn’t a city
Lol
Yes
They call that mortal engines
If California was an island, then the US surely would’ve attempted a railroad/road bridge to it. Also, the transcontinental railroad would be a bit shorter, and end at a city along the coast.
Actually, I'll bet that the railroad would've gone to Sonoma or Washington.
More parents wouldn't drive their kids to Jake Paul's house.
Shookoo yeah something good for the world.
Lol
Maybe Jake Paul could accidentally see how long it takes to fall 2 miles.
Shookoo he'd probably just have a sanoran clone.
Shookoo it wouldn't be everyday bro kids are coming at his house
Dude... Water would destroy those cliffs.
Yeah. The geography of California would be like Japan, and the now West Coast would have their coast flattened more and more.
HE SAID ITS FOR FUN DAMN IT
@@jakeantriasian2353 At least we need accuracy for fun.
Wouldn’t be that much of a game changer because the US is a pretty new continent (for the earths standards) and I don’t think much would change in its little time of existence
Thanks to constant erosion of those cliffs the natives (and then Spanish, Mexican and American settlers) could still get to California.
WEST COAST? Did you mean: "Costa del Lex"?
He speaks English, Not Spanish
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What about an unrealistically tall bridge connecting California to the mainland us
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That would be a logistical and engineering nightmare. A larger project than the panama canal or pontchtrain bridge. It would me the longest bridge in the world by a long shot but with the added problem of it being 2 whole miles above sea level to start with. The supports would be 3 or 4 miles tall and near impossible to create or transport until maybe the late 1900s to early 2000s. If there was to be a bridge connecting the island it wouldnt be made yet, at best it would currently be under construction
What if Germany never unified back in 1871?
What if the King of Prussia accepted the crown offered to him by the German revolutionaries in Frankfurt in 1848?
Come on guys, what if Germany was united under Austria.
What if the Holy Roman Empire united as one nation?
That's impossible, so maybe if they stayed together in the first place.
But it was united. During Ottonian times, HRE was pretty centralized, more so than France during whole Middle Ages. HRE decentralized with time, and by the end of XVIII century, it was the mess we think about when we hear about it.
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you'd need to give a time period though. but I guess the most likely time for that to have happened would be if Charles V and the Catholics won the 30 years war. or at least a scenario where the Treaty of Westphalia was never made and the Empire got an official religion.
+You'reThatMantis
30 years war is too late. Even with Catholic victory, it would be impossible to hold all these states together. Reformation really divided the HRE on religious level, it would be easier to unite something that has no religious tensions -thus that uniting factor should happen before Charles' reign.
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About those cliffs, they would have probably eroded/otherwise been destroyed by nature because of the weight.
It takes time to erode that high cliffs.
Angus Yang
The scenario is not if California spontaneously broke away, it's if it ALWAYS had been an island. There would've been time enough for erosion.
Yeah that's what I was thinking it would probably just be a normal coastline wouldn't it?
Overtime most of the east coast would resemble coastal Peru. And the area that in our timeline is the Colorado river delta is sufficiently flat for early settlement by boat, and has a geography that allows access to the rest of this hypothetical Californian island. Chances are, in an alternate universe, a major city would be built here for its strategic location.
Nye county Nevada which borders California has mountain ranges over 10.000 feet but the average elevation is just over 3000 feet . So where did they get those 13000 feet cliffs.
What if Anakin have the high ground?
Ummm, hate to burst your bubble but there literally is no scenario in which Obi-Wan DOESN'T have the high ground.
Later I will unleashed Drone missle to your trench Umi-chan Onegai, don't blow up Honoka-chan's house
Bolt Fantasticated There was one scenario, in a bonus level of the Star Wars 3 video game, where, like you say, Obi Wan had the high ground, yet somehow Anakin managed to jump right over him and stab him through the back. So, yeah, that happened.
Later I will unleashed Drone missle to your trench obi-wan had sand in his pocket so anakin was still doomed
Then he'd have *UNLIMITED POWER!!*
Few notes:
- California wouldn't be COMPLETELY irrelevant - the central farm lands would still be vital to the nation's economy, but it would take a few more days to ship it around to the ports. (More profit for them, though.)
- Senora, being so deeply south and vital to international trade... Would its prosperity leak into Mexico? Would we see a more robust Mexican economy as a result, and different relations with the States as a result of that?
- Less important: Tourism would be much improved by the cliffs. You've got beaches west, redwoods north, mountains east, and cliffs hemming them in... Easily the most naturally-fascinating region. Probably would help the western desert regions by selling short puddle-jumps into California, because all the transportation and commerce splits around them north/south once you leave the plains.
Except those cliffs wouldn't exist. The only reason they "could" is due to uplift by forcing the land California sits on eastward into the greater continent. An island wouldn't have been driven upward like that by the ocean. And natural processes called erosion would've carved those cliffs back and downward over time. They just wouldn't be there. Unless some human (or extraterrestrial) force literally carved the giant channel out of the Sierra Nevada mountains, it wouldn't be the way it's toyed with as an idea in this video. And it's Sonora... with two O's.
We can live without californa
Plus a new trade route with north and central America
Damián "el Salsuero" lol you know NOTHING about formations in evolving geography, alternatehistory is correct in his assessment, or have you never heard of the white walls of england? Theres other examples but thats the most obvious one
No, Mexico does not have a more robust economy, because for whatever reason the people of my lineage (on my mexican side) have this super bad habit of screwing things up, Mexico has gotten alot of money before, hell after the mexican American war the Americans straight up paid ALL OF THEIR DEBTS, thats not a joke, they paid all of their debts then left the Mexico, after that oil started to become a big deal (not immediately) and Mexico was one of the best places to get it...and then the corruption started to happen, you people think the US is bad with corruption? Ha ha let me tell you a story, my grandmas dad was a very influential man in Mexico who saw a bright future for the country, now my papa never went into details when telling me the story but...from what I understand it wasn’t much appreciated when he disagreed with the other wealthy parties the Mexico who wanted power and he he lost things...like land...alot of it, confiscated by the government for...the “needs of the people”, when in reality the land was stolen by the government and given to the other wealthy people because...the other kind of influence (paying off politicians)
Also Mexico has decent coast lines on both sides of the country, if they were to pull their shit together trade would be very easy to access. Point being Mexico cant get it together, I don’t know why but they just cant, and not to get all political and stuffs, but yes i do think the wall is necessary, because it’s actually really bad over there...my great uncle (grandmas brother) was...made an example out of in Mexico City central by the cartel about 4 years ago....yes thats how bad it is over there
It would be named “San Andreas” and GTA V and GTA SA would have happened there
What if kiwis overthrew new zeland?
emu war 2.0
why the fuck would a bunch of fruit overtake a fucking state
Mic Clank it's funny because aussies (Australians) call New Zealanders "kiwis"
Doctor Jones no the animal
SaberVlogs lel
What if Rhode Island was actually an island
Monster Ball Then they'd probably just call it "the state of Rhode".
Monster Ball or a road?
there is an actual Rhode Island. its just not the most populous part of the state
Dude i remember seeing your pfp somewhere "The adventures of the super idiot"
Can i have a link
It is in the Medertarainin.
You aren't allowing for the effects of erosion on the cliffs and the discovery of gold. The American merchant shipping would have moved thousands of people to the island of California. Gold fever will overcome a lot of obstacles.
@Stephanie Logan Being only accessible by sea doesn't prevent gold rushes from happening. There were multiple Australian gold rushes, after all.
Yes, it's completely fine to say the fault lines and geology shifted to allow this alternate history, but we still live within the realm of our our physical universe. There are plenty of examples of massive mountain ranges close to coast, e.g. Chile, Peru, BC and Alaska.
The GOLD RUSH would have to happen at a later date, though. Provided we stick to his specious assertion that natives can't figure out how to paddle their canoes from coastal Washington to coastal Oregon. Sutter's Mill was staffed by hundreds of Indians (natives) John Sutter had enslaved.
I’m sure there still would have been a gold rush because there is a lot of gold in northern Nevada
it would take thousands of years to erode those cliffs under the best case scinario. The cliffs of Dover were much higher in the past and today... they still _exist_ on a smaller scale.
California kinda looks like Japan
Not at all
It doesn’t look anything like Japan...
@The Road Warrior Are you using autism as an insult?
SAN ANDREAS
What if the oceans and land were inverted, i.e. land is water, water is now land.
Deserts everywhere
not suddenly
but always
Geography Now did a video on that.
What all though that sounds wonderful to me, i never thought there was enough land i don't think that could support large populations
@Stephanie Logan so welsh
So would songs be written about Sonoran girls instead?
Smeetheens They would also be more pretty has many would be partly Mexican. Also Florida might get more attention along with the Caribbean and Central America in general.
LMAO
+Marylandbrony Also Washington, although it would probably just be called Oregon in this alternate timeline. Would it be warmer or colder due to California being an island? I'd guess warmer, but I'm no meteorologist.
"Sonoran Girls" doesn't have the same ring as "Californian Girls" does, though.
Would the Beach Boys even exist in this alternate timeline?
Kinda curious why you pick and choose which parts to be scientifically accurate. If Cali was a natural island it wouldn’t have gigantic cliffs along its coast. California would have a geography similar to Japan.
He said it was for fun.
Why ponder the way things would be when the outcome is easy and obvious? He's looking at something interesting and innovative to consider.
Depends on how the island was made. If it happened then it would most likely be caused by the fault lines, and if we look at the best example of a a rift fault, the East African Rift, it’s characterized by deep, flat valleys and walls, as if you removed some blocks out from the middle. Of course, it wouldn’t have those massive mountains there in the first part. In fact, there wouldn’t be mountains at all.
Yeah. Major mountains on the centre, however, the coast is pretty flat. Same for the coasts of Arizona, Nevada and all that stuff. Their coasts would be flatter too.
Who cares? It's just California, I would be happy if they were trapped on a island.
Sometime in this alternat timeline 20th Century:
“Sir, we Need a easier way to get to the island of California” “I know, we’ll build a GODDAMN BRIDGE!”
My money says the island would become a military base, maybe even this alternate universe's area 51. Those cliffs make for easy security.
In that case, I'd probably be typing this from Sonora, where I'd assume most Chinese immigrants like my parents would go to.
What if California was a city
Preston Garvey what if England was a city
Preston Garvey More things for you to mark on our maps.
Preston Garvey What if Preston didn't give a shit about settlements?
Let's try to refrain from making any "Another settlement needs your help" jokes.
The Crystal Gem that's gonna be difficult 😂
One giant Hawai'i situation then. Entirely dependent on the mainland for economy, very high cost of living, probably stronger push for independence.
Nanna Leifa Finally, someone realize this.
Nanna Leifa finally someone realize this
Nanna Leifa and thriving native cultures and history!
Not necessarily. There could still be a gold rush in 1848 and California Island would still have oil. Areas like the Salinas Valley would still be very productive agricultural land. However getting oil and produce to the mainland would have to be by sea.
Yeah, the native and hispanic communities would have formed a strong identity
I think even when the Gold Rush hit it would be too strong for the US to hold unto with all the transport and military troubles, it'd be a floating fortress
My guess is that it would become a independent client state of the US much like Cuba was then
I feel like, if we went with the "Spanish were right" scenario, wouldn't we assume the mountains would just turn into hills and then a flat coast like along the peninsula of Baja California?
What about the Polynesians that landed in California and mixed with the native americans?
If the natives weren't there, California could have polynesian culture and would be like the US's New Zealand rather than Hawaii!
Evil Paragon 2 Hawaii is two time zones away from us, so it would be hard for them to get their still unless the islands drifter way off.
As I said, Polynesians in our timeline already landed in California and they mixed with the native Americans there.
Polynesians in this timeline would make it there and would likely be the only dominant culture for over a thousand years. That is longer than Maoris have been around in New Zealand!
eh, not really, considering they've also said the Chinese likely visited north america shortly after the Polynesians (basically being the 2nd people to reach north america), if anything the Chinese would have spread to the island. Or if you push a bit further the Romans even as they have found roman coins in several states including Texas, they even found Roman paintings that used ink made of pineapple and squash which were only in the americas.
Evil Paragon 2 ok, but the native americans would have still populated california. kody even said that coastland oregon was low enough to make landfall there
That's crazy as bro
wouldn't the Mexicans just retreat to the island in a state of war? seems like it would be an easy place to defend from your geographical arguments..
Nah, the author of this video is heavily biased for the US because the is American, just check out his Texas videos
The US army would have still been far superior to the Mexican army geological fortification or not.
D Wilson with almost no ships on the pacific
All you need are row boats and climbing equipment. The Army has made do with much less.
D Wilson thats a massacre waiting to happen
Do a video if Spain was still under Muslim control or if Muslims never conquered Spain.
That'll have negative effects on European colonization and Europe as a whole, a muslim Spain would possibly cut Italy, southern france, and any other mediterranean nation from exiting the mediterranean sea except for other muslim nations. This means that France, the UK, and the Netherlands would be the only European nations colonizing, and these nation's power combined wouldn't be enough to colonize as much as Europe did in our timeline did. The middle east would also be a colonization competitor, nations like Andalusia (muslim spain), Morocco, and Tunisia would start to colonize other parts of the world.
Portugal would most likely not exist as a nation, and the age of descoveries iniciated by the portuguese and built upon the other countries of europe would be delayed.
It would take Portugal aswell, and because Portugal invented or went to Asia and bought most navigation devises, this would not stop the discovery years but slow it down alot(maybe like 100 years)
If Muslims never conquered Spain, Spaniards wouldn't have white-to-olive-toned skin. They'd just be regular white. They'd also be more Germanic, because Visigoths.
Uncle Sam Do a VIDEO CALLED NUKE UNITED SATES OF AMERICA
"Look at it, it's so ridiculous I love it! " That's one way to look at life x)
I don't mean to be a party-pooper, but i just wanna say those California cliffs wouldn't existed. Even taking out the plate tectonics argument: millions of years of rainfall would have weathered it down to the shape of the modern day california coast - if not lower in elevation. Maybe in the southwest there would have been huge huge cliffs, but because the area to the north would've already inhabited it. If anything it could have become its own seperate ancient empire, and then who knows.
Did you watch the beginning of the video? Cody states that this video was just for fun and in real life would never happen due to geography.
Edfan 287 Well yeah but he's not saying that California being an island is impossible, he's just saying cody was wrong to estimate that there would be such huge cliffs.
and depending on how far the gap was between land, a bridge would have simply been built; Facilitating road transport.
Yeah, but he makes such a point of these unrealistic mountains, he shoulda really looked up why mountains don't grow that tall, and got them down and gone from there.
The ocean wouldn’t be eroding the land there the way it did in California so it wouldn’t be “just like or lower”
what if youtube was an island?
Tell Me This you should make a video on this :)
I think this is a question for RealLifeLore
It would be an Archipelago in constant war.
The infrastructure would be infinitly horrendous and it would crumple under itself in under a month due to mis-managment and mal-practice
It would,give furry cancer to all who enter
What if england was a city
It's not a city.
It's *my* city.
Leave. Now.
Fuck I just commented this without seeing this comment and now people are gonna say I stole it even though I commented it before I saw this so now imma drive myself into depression and end my miserable life.
Making California an island would require more than just taking a swipe at the map with a blue magic marker and saying that area's ocean, with everything else the same. It would require major geographic and geological changes. In short, those 13,000-foot cliffs almost certainly wouldn't be there. What would? I've no idea. It could be anything from lesser (but still precipitous) cliffs to forests and beaches.
My point is not that this video is bad. Given the strait and the cliffs, Cody does a good job of explaining how things would be different. But declaring California an island requires so many assumptions in regards to geography that it's impossible to say, "That's how it would be." You can't even say that's how it would likely be. I could just as easily declare that there are those gentle beaches there, or that the strait is only a mile wide, or whatever I like.
As I said, given the assumptions he chooses to make, this is a good video. But they are assumptions, and Cody did choose to make them. If he'd chosen something else, it would have been very different. Say, maybe that happened in an alternate history!
In my opinion, 13K foot cliffs are utterly impossible. Why? Because of erosion. The massive cliffs would erode over time, to a flat coast. Same thing for the now West Coast. The geography of California would be like Japan, with mountains in the middle. They could've been independent for real because the natives could've kept an interest on it because of its strategic location between the Pacific and North America.
He probably didn’t pay too much attention cause, as he said, it’s so ridiculous.
So basically Los Santos from GTA V
Herr Kaese_Kuchen Because los santos is almost the size of greenland
Yes
Except poor yes
Yes yes i confused the city with the state
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The United States ran out of Destiny to manifest, so they're looking for more.
*HAWAII*
*CUBA-*
Wait, Spain owns Cuba.
USA: Well blame something on them and go to war!
Also USA: What should we blame on Spain?
Again, USA: Let's blame the Maine on Spain!
So they blame the Maine on Spain.
Yay, another Wurtzian!
Yeah but why Maine?
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Wrong video
What if the Byzantine Empire wasn't conquered?
Hellenistic influence would've stood strong in Europe. Maybe if they could've, made American settlements if they lasted 100-300 years longer. than they actually did.
He already made a video on that. If you mean if Constantinople wasn't conquered, that's unfortunately impossible because the Byzantines at that point were far beyond saving and would've fell to either the Ottomans or another nation later on.
@@ragingshibe He didn't 3 years ago when I wrote that. :)
Rockstar’s San Andreas (los santos etc): Allow us to introduce ourselves
Me:WOOO ARIZONA BEACHES!! *waits 30 seconds* "13000 feet high clifs"
Me:oh
Do a backflip!
Then it would be surrounded by water
Now, how about "If Scandinavia made an arms pact during WW2". Here is some things I feel could change how that would go:
1. Norway Sweden and Denmark work together to improve their military, fearing someone might try to annex them for strategic purposes. Be it Germany or England.
2. With Sweden's steel production, and with information about England and Germany's new tank production, Scandinavia quickly gains a reasonably big armoured presence.
3. With an increase in oil demands, Norway starts searching for oil much earlier, making this "union of arms" more self reliant.
4. With Denmark bordering Germany, they're able to gain some information, such as the plans to invade Norway and Denmark. This means they would be prepared.
The rest is up to you. Would love to hear how this change would alter how history goes. Maybe the war would end even earlier? Maybe Scandinavia would rise to be a global military power? Who knows? But it would be fun to hear.
That would greatly affect how WW2 happened. First, the Tirpitz would've never been stationed in the fjords of Norway, and that it would have helped protect British supply ships in the lend-lease program. It could have also been a staging point for D-Day, as it is bordering Germany.
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This world is really amazing for Portland and Seattle.
Dude stop being lazy I wanna hear about plate tectonics
SylenDraws well it is alternate history hub
Go to PlateHub
The channel is called Alternate HISTORY hub.
Wouldn't a California island with huge ass cliffs also fuck with the weather patterns?
bruh
Reminds me of Vancouver Island between Washington and BC, which is a huge island
What if Biggie and Tupac. Went to war?
Can you imagine the chase scenes in 80s movies ending in crashes off the cliffs?!
what if the emus won the emu war? and overthrew the Australian government???????
Actually the emus won but the second part makes sense
ok...
Emus actually won.
The emus did win the Emu War.
The Emu War never ended because none of them are able to sign a treatise with Australia
California is an oil Haven that we barely tapped as their economy focused towards Hollywood and tourism. In this alternative setting oil would become it's primary economy it also would probably still focus on tourism for its beaches, base jumpers and hang gliding would be a big on the cliff side as well there could be channel races.
I think this California would be a mix between Alaska and Hawaii. California had *a lot* of oil back then, and in this day, there are many oil wells still operating. And of course, there was the famous gold rush in North California. In the alt timeline though, it's very possible that the discovery would occur later, much like Alaska. I could see this California as major tourist spot like Hawaii, with many beautiful beaches and mountains.
But yeah, the _huge_ downside of being separated from the mainland would be the very high cost of living, because of the Jones Act, places like Hawaii and Puerto Rico cannot trade with the outside world on their own, and every product goes to Alaska, Hawaii, and this new California must arrive from the mainland. This probably wouldn't sit well to the Californians, so there would've been stronger push for independence than our timeline.
California's economy mostly relies on agriculture I believe and other stuff not hollywood
Mela Pelas No, it is not. While California is the biggest agricultural state in the US, it's only account to 2% of state's GDP. Finance, Real Estate, Business sector, and Governmental jobs contributed much more. Arts and Entertainment surprisingly less than 5%.
UHmm, silicone valley honey.
gillecroisd 92 blah blah blah into the void
If California was an island, us Arizonans would actually be able to enjoy the beach without having to travel to Texas or... California
I'm pretty sure that there wouldn't be enough land to make an Arizona. From what I saw of that map, and considering the mountains, your area would be too low in population. It would probably be part of New Mexico or Sonora, your other beach destination.
😂
That country song about having oceanfront property in Arizona would suddenly mean something completely different.
It would still be a Desert tho, 100 plus degree weather with ocean front humidity would be sweaty balls city :/
Animal Pack and you wouldnt be jealous of us floridians
They should be called the Cliffs of insanity. You had one job!
What if the U.N banned Hentai?
World War 3
No
Then I would have to use my imagination…
I wouldn't have suicidal thoughts.
Augusto Pepechet Oh the irony of someone using a Pepe meme while calling others betas...
What if New Zealand or Australia rebelled and became an axis power?
Well then...
I suppose Japan could be more focused on either Central Asia or the US? With the help of its' ANZAC buddies?
They'd both surrender before even being invaded due to the logistical nightmare of US dominance in the pacific No oil, no farming, no army, no food, etc.
The emus would rebel against the fascist government.
But with such a sea between the mainland U.S. and California wouldn't that cause weather patterns to change and potentially allow more moisture and precipitation to the dessert and mountainous areas?
I love how the road trip is actually driving from around where I live.
what if south America never split from Africa
Megaman Picachu basically a bigger africa
What if California Was An Island?
Superman would need to go back in time to save Louis Lane.
The Gentlemen Network lol
The Gentlemen Network this video just proofs how stupid his plan is
What if "The Thing" had escaped from Antartica?
Ian Kinley the thing?
Ian Kinley What’s that?
SFA44 From tbhe movie The Thing. It's a shapeshifting creature
It would probably suffer the same fate as Calvin from"LIFE": Several nukes to the face off-screen
Not a genwunner watch The Thing 1982 greatest movie ever.
I guess those cliffs would probably erode pretty quickly if they really were 2km+ high.
Do an alternate history of if the nationalist won the Chinese civil war
It'd be better. Just look at Taiwan under Republic rule versus how The People's Republic is now.
Taiwan wouldn't be pissed at the chinese
Taiwan China best China
Uhh, so, like, people flinging stuff and yelling profanities in Senate, massive dissatisfaction with government, filibustering in legislation and just as much problem with corruption as is in current China? I think you just made an argument in favour of the People's Republic.
Some geoligists say due to tectonic plates, we could have a California that is an Island within the next 5,000 years. So the Spanish were just off by a couple of years
No geologists claim that.
There is no divergent boundary close to California, take a basic geology course or as you spell it 'geoligy'
i haven't heard anyone say that but it's very likely it will be flooded, hey they do whine about droughts alot so at least they'll have water
a couple of years? more like a couple thousand years, let me put that into perspective, in say 300 years assuming we don't kill ourselves we could have the technology to make it an island and then terraform the island to our needs ;/.
Mr. Swordfish nah your thing would probably either be impossible or sink the entire island into the ocean and destroy portland, las vegas and phoenix
What if USA kept the Philippines
DwightTerreOfficial Idk, I guess it would be like puerto rico, but with military bases
Heck
I’m Filipino
Theoritically it does, look at us we kiss the asses of everything american from their language and culture. Oh, and obesity.
My friend is American half pilipino
kdskdskOfficial Oh hi
As a Californian I’m actually happy we were named after a sweet island from an Hispanic tale, that is nice to know.
*What if England was actually a city?*
Sphere There have been three comments like this that I've seen.
And it's covered on the Infographics channel.
It is
"What if England was actually a country?"
Sounds more like Real Life Lore should cover that.
I dont care how unlikely it is I wanna know what would happen if Mexico won the Mexican-American War
Diego Bañuelos they would probably take Texas back from the Americans
Mexico would be bigger and probably be more richer than it is right now
Mexicans suck at everything they would still come to the usa illegaly lol
Well at least we always rek America in Soccer
Then a mexican president called El Donaldo Trumpo would build a wall to keep out the Muricans.
I'm kinda sad you didn't talk about the gold rush in California, and how it would be affected, and especially asian immigration to america, if they would settle deeper into the mainland, or more into washington.
We'll chat about that in the chat! I'll mention you
We'll I think that if California was an island, more would happen I think. Gold would be discovered, it would be hard to make it to California right? Well those who persisted and made it to California would become INSANELY rich because no one would have gone all the way there. Meaning California would be the land of the rich. Also more people because of California's difficulty would stay in the east coast, meaning most likely more industrialization in the East coast.
Also in the Civil war, it may end sooner because more troops are stationed at the borders of the confederates.
Geology major here. In this alternate plate tectonic scenario (essentially shifting the San Andreas strike-slip fault system inland to the location of the present day Sierra Nevadas), there wouldn't _be_ a Gold Rush.
Gold and other related minerals (like silver and copper) come from volcanic activity. Here in California, that volcanism is driven entirely by the Cascadia Subduction Zone off the northern coast, where I presently live.
Shifting the tectonic setting in such a major way as this video surmised means no volcanism, hence no major mineral deposits, hence no rush to obtain said minerals for fun and profit.
This is like wondering if the American Revolution against England would've still occurred if none of the English colonies succeeded; it's just nonsensical.
Greenlandia true. That is why california is what it is
+L.D. Johnson. If gold comes from techtonic plates and such, how was there a gold rush in Australia? Isn't Australia sitting on one big techtonic plate? Or was there some long ago volcanic activity in Australia?
Answer: I wouldn't be able to drive there
What if England was my city?
Old?
sorry I'll let myself out
LOLOLOLOL, no its fine
Jay Williams then the US would be shitty, and we'd have to pass it to Chance because we know he stays lit(ty)
Chair Meme what if the haters dab back tho?
Desert Rose
*Top 10 questions scientists can't answer*
Then if I lived in it, I would move out.
So, essentially, California would join Alaska and Hawaii as one of those kinda-sorta US states?
Trygve Plaustrum not part of the US Mainland
Trygve Plaustrum alaska and hawaii are fully fledged us states
Trygve Plaustrum What so you mean "Alaska and Hawaii as one of those kinda-sorta US states"? Both Hawaii and Alaska are official US States. How do you not know that?
Man, there are so many people here who seriously can't understand a joke. It's the equivalent of saying "Mexico is 'that taco place.'" Sheesh.
Alaska and Hawaii are just one tier above Puerto Rico. But at least they aren't Guam. Most people actually in the United States do not see these states the same as they see say New York or Idaho. Hell, a few maps don't even include them. Many Hawaiians don't see themselves as American as well though this has changed rapidly in recent decades.
Extra: America made hardshell tacos which are far more popular, meaning that the US is that taco place.
Wouldn't it be the third largest island because of Australia or am I missing something
Australia isn't an island technically
Australia is sometimes referred to as a continent.
Darth Cookie How?
DODECAHEDRON! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Australia is not a continent, it’s part of a continent called Oceania along with New Zealand, Papua New Guinea and the other tiny islands around it.
But i thought that the definition of an island was a landmass completely surrounded by water?
What if Pluto were my left testicle
Dead Below Zer0
Just like how pluto is so small it isn't considered a planet, your left testicle is so small it shouldn't be considered an organ
Chin Chin The Dark Lord LMFAO!!!
I'd go to a doctor
Dead Below Zer0 HEY!!!!
Chin Chin The Dark Lord Pluto is bigger than humans.
I'm gonna guess that Sacramento would still suck in this scenario.
What if Yavin 4 was destroyed by the Death Star? What if the Death Star was never created? What if Anikan Skywalker never existed?
It would be simple, because none of those things ever existed in the first place
Go to Star Wars theory and ask on that channel
robot 1435 what if obi one didn't have the high ground
Who's anikan?
ur-86 Obi-Wan always has the high ground .... from a certain point of view
I think the amount of gold and silver in california would make it just as important as it is today.
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Peter Jerman Fake
Aucis Josh Yeah sure that's why Cody loved the comment.
What if Australia won the Emu War?
Do what if America became Communist during the great depression.
Nathaniel Roe It almost became Fascist, but the candidate was assassinated
Nathaniel Roe then America would have good vodka
Nathaniel Roe Or commuist in general. Reds! Does it realisticy after WW1. Even the days of rage would also work.
Rock God Calling Huey Long a fascist is a bit of a stretch.
Then the world would fucking blown up.
In the alternate timeline, alternatehistoryhub makes an alternate timeline on what if California was connected to the usa via land
It should of been "What if Claifornia was only populated by black women?"
If California would be populated only by black women, where are the fathers?
The Phantom Thieves of Hearts
they're all on Maury
Drink Your Nail Polish dead
They'd all die out due to lack of welfare checks
Lalaace spicy cheetos would also be a big part of the population
I changed the comment so no one will understand the replies.
I will always remember you baby
Church 313 I will remember you
Some thing something idk
Idk the lyrics to the song tho
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Church 313 *presses f to pay respects*
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Trying to imagine a 2 mile high cliff is a little hard for me. lol
Mars has even greater cliffs, as does one of Uranus' moons.
Chris Gaming My anus has a large cliff?
No, I said one of your anus' moons has a large cliff. More specifically the moon of Miranda. Due to the lower gravity and a bunch of geological shit I'm not even going to pretend to understand, the cliffs there can get up to 20 kilometers high. That's about 12 miles if you're American.
Mirandan cliffs are aircraft level high because it used to be shatter apart by an asteroid, but then merged again through millions of years. Of course the pieces no longer matches with each other, so you ended up with a mix match surface with cliffs as high as 15 km.
There's also Iapetus, which has an Everest high mountain range run though it's entire equator.
Also, Cody didn't account for the weather factor. If California was an island, through time the weather would've softened the cliffs of it
Would you even be able to see the bottom
So can you explain to me how you got the rationale for 13,000 foot cliffs? The highest point in all of Nevada is 13,000 feet so I don't know how the entire shoreline suddenly spikes up that high.
Also, if California's tectonic plate hadn't collided with the US, a large portion of the mountains of northern and central Nevada wouldn't exist, and the elevation would be much lower...
You're missing a big thing Cody. You forgot about the gold rush.
Giovanni Huidor well since back then gold was the oil to them then....do you hear TNT