I didn't own a CD player when Nevermind came out. So I had to listen to CDs on my PC. So I put the disc in & fire up Windows Media Player & it does a data read and gives the the track lengths. I see that the last song is 20:35 in length, and i'm thinking, I guess it's got some long instrumental part. Hell yeah i'm listening to this song first because it's probably got some really cool and long guitar solo. So I listen to "Something in the Way" & there is still a lot of time left in the track & i'm thinking I guess it was a production error, but I want to see if there is any sound in this blank ending. So I skip through parts of it, 5 minutes = nothing, 8 minutes = nothing & I end up playing at about half way through Endless Nameless & 'i'm wtf is this'? And I skip back slowly until I find the start. I was unaware of the name of the song for about 3 years, I don't remember how I found the name.
I remember i was listening to Nevermind while going to sleep and then being jolted awake scared out of my mind because Endless Nameless came on. After settling my heart I thought it was the coolest damn thing haha
Haha, it was probably thought to be that way! Kurt did that with one guy on whose couch he slept. Oh yeah, google tells me I'm right :D "The methodology of the song's inclusion was partly inspired by Kurt's old friend Jesse Reed: back when the pair were sharing a flat in Aberdeen, Kurt recorded himself one time saying, “Jesse . . . Jesse . . . I'm coming to get you,” towards the end of a blank 90 minute cassette. Just as Jesse was about to go to bed, Kurt put the " (quote ends here) tape on and then this part was played when they were asleep. Jesse was freaked and asked: "Did you hear that? What was that?" Kurt only answered "Was what?" and smiled into the darkness. Awesome idea to prank a friend :D
I Love endless nameless its The ultimate grunge song when i hear it i definalty wake up i Always play it loud its The most beautiful noice i can hear kurt is realy feeling it for sure its one of my favorite grunge songs its almost like a orgasm exuse my Word but it feels like it 🧍♂️🧍♂️🧍♂️🎸🎸❤️❤️❤️❤️😎😎🥰🥰💯❤️🥁
hey man,really like listening to your stories,im a huge nirvana fan and think ive got just about every bootleg out there,haha. so its really cool to hear new stuff!really interesting and you seem like a really genuine guy!keep it up man!
This was the first "secret track" I've heard... playing the cassette version. The only other secret track I've ever heard on CD was the X Files cd, not sure how I discovered the track (manually rewinding the disc instead of playing back a chapter... the center player kept counting negative time! All of a sudden there was a hidden track from Nick Cave, basically track zero. Anyways great video post
There were 2 different versions of the Nevermind CD if I remember correctly. One contained Endless Nameless and the other didn't have it on there. I actually owned both versions and I remember being able to tell the difference by looking on the bottom of the CDs! I remember there being a live performance where Nirvana ended with it and Krist announced it on the mic beforehand as "the secret song". I think it was at Halloween, l think he said "since it's Halloween, we thought we'd play the secret song" or something to that effect. Me and my friends later saw an import that had it listed as Endless Nameless. On the nevermind version of the song, I remember it being documented somewhere describing exactly the part on the song where Kurt busted the guitar. Back then, we searched out anything Nirvana that we could get our hands on and shared it.
One day I went out of my house and I let Nevermind on after the end of Something In The Way. I turned the volume at the maxium volume. When I arrived at night, my mother told me that she freaked out when the noise started.
I remember when I first heard Endless Nameless. I was sleeping and had Nevermind on......I had fallen asleep at my girlfriends house after school. We were in her bedroom kissing and then just napped..... and the song woke me. I was like “what’s going on!?” Really scared because of how the song just kinda creeps in. She was like....”oh it the secret song at the end”. I was super confused by it and didn’t really understand or get it at the time. My 12 yr or 13 yr old brain just didn’t get the song. It’s one of my favorites. Pure emotion. Watching the live and loud performance actually can make me cry in the right headspace and right day.
I've read, in the media, that the idea of a long silence originally was a joke by Cobain on a roommate. Cobain recorded a message at the end of a blank audio tape which he then rewinded to its beginning. Then, just before he left the room with the roommate in it, he'd secretly put on the tape. So, after about 30-45 minutes of silence, the roommate suddenly heard a voice calling his name, saying something spooky like: I'm coming to get you!
@@davidschlotterback8374 yeah it's become a a tradition. I think it started when musicians thought that if they had an exceptionally good audience they would reward them with an encore as a special "thank you". Now the audience expects it.
The destruction was part of the encore. He would change to a different guitar to destroy(usually) he stopped using the green mustang from slts as he damaged it and didnt want to break it,same with i jaguar, he may have slung it about but, never broke it.
When i heard the cd for the first time i didnt new about that song, i was in my room and when "something in the way" endeed i left it.(it was a habit to let the cd player still on xD). Meanwhile in other division of the house i start to ear this aggressive guitar like other dimension just invade my room, as I approached it with this thought "had i turn off the cd?, what is going on??!!" xD , it get louder every step i made. Is was like they knew that is going to be a suprise, I stayed with my mouth open until the end(i wait more 5min to the possibility of a 2º"secret song" ahah that was the troll after being invented
During the studio version, Cobain destroys his guitar. As far as I know, from the media, 'Endless Nameless' was a spontaneously recorded jam which resulted from frustrations during the recording of 'Lithium'. The tempo sped up while Butch Vig wanted it to stay the same. Cobain's destroyed guitar meant trouble in finding another (lef-handed) one to finish the 'Nevermind' sessions. 'Lithium' was then recorded with a click-track, to keep the tempo the same.
Great story!!! I'm new to your channel and it is incredible. What was your relationship with Kurt and krist?? My friends uncles band played a show with nirvana in 1989 at the cabaret metro in Chicago. That was with Channing on drums but I was only 7 at the time so I was not there. Did you know chad or Dave ??
what is your association with krist/nirvana then, how do you know krist? my apologies for my lack of knowledge about you're history and for my abrupt question. regards.
I'm from Argentina. Tell me please why Andrew Wood had his funeral on the Paramount on the 1990? You must being famous to have a funeral in a theatre? So strange for me to get. I read this story on Mark Yarm's grunge book.
I know how you feel. I had alot of memorabila from my days at the studio, stollen. A 24 ct. (Not plate) gold mushroom necklace, an analog recording (thats all they had back then, lol, but it was atate of the art, with the 36 tracks) by 3 of my good friends at the studio, 2 session men and the man i worked for. It was a limited pressing, called T.S.S. i love these guys and it meant the world to me. For the people/person who stole my treasues, I'm sure most of it meant nothing to them. Except the gold but back then it was probably 200-300 an oz. Not like today at 1,100-1,200 an oz. I had a Memphis newspaper from the day Elvis died, one from N.Y. when John Lennon died and of course the coverage of the plane crash that took out a few of my friends. Those are pretty personal items and i suppose the thief was thinking in terms of dollar signs and not the sentimentality of those objects to me. Sorry you had the c.d., your friend recorded, stollen. Well we can't take those things with us, but while we are still living, they become sort of a bridge that reminds us of the connection that still is and the love and friendship we shared.
That's funny @the Observer because there's an interview in 92 where Krist mentioned he'd heard stories about people being surprised by the ghost track and he mentioned people "washing dishes". I wonder if he had your story in mind. Shame about the CD, you had a first pressing.
Hey man,how are you? I got a good story about that song and the other from In utero (Gallons of.....) too. So back when i was younger me and my friends use to go to a an arcade sallon with pool and other games. And there's a big jukebox with cd's(originals). There were many cool bands in it,and of course me and my friends favorite,Nirvana Nevermind and In Utero.So,when the place was about to close,we use to choose Something in the way or All Apolagies to stay longer,because they are linked to those secrets songs.We listen to 2 songs and only pay for one!!!The whole place had to wait 10 or 15 minutes in silence before the songs starts.The man working there always have to wait to close the place and others customers look at us like,what the F...!!! It was so cool because both are caos and mayhem and we loved it!! Don't feel sorry about the guy he was nasty person!!! Eheheh
Hey I know this may be too much but could you get Krist to appear in one of your videos? I think a videochat or something like that could be an easy way to go and would be super cool.
Something about this story doesn't quite add up. You say you had one of the first 100 copies, yet Endless, Nameless isn't on the first 20,000 copies that were sold. It was meant to be on the album but Weinburg left it out by mistake, and it was added later as a secret track. How did you hear it on a copy it shouldn't have existed on?
so many of us have similar stories about it so just like many others, I too did not own a CD player when Nevermind came out. And remember when I finally got one, I had the cd playing in my bedroom on my boom box and I had fallen asleep and of course was scared out of my wits to hear this thing come on. There was no internet back then so you couldn't even google it! Fun times...
I remember having to sift through bootlegs on kazaa and napster, when I was 8 years old.... XD Yeah I'm a fucking snowflake... Gen x cant even send email XD
Actually, I have to correct you. Endless Nameless was NOT on the original 50,000 or so original pressing copies. If you had the song on yours it had to be a later pressing. My roommate and I bought our copies of Nevermind the day it came out at the record release party and in store concert at Beehive Records in the U District. Later on we heard about the hidden track and checked for it on our CD's. Much to our disappointment at the time our copies did not have the song. As it turned out, though we had the rare copies! I still have that CD in perfect condition.
From the Nevermind Wikipedia entry (also confirmed from other sources): "Nevermind was mastered on the afternoon of August 2 at The Mastering Lab in Hollywood, California. Howie Weinberg started working alone when no one else showed up at the appointed time in the studio; by the time Nirvana, Andy Wallace, and Gary Gersh arrived, Weinberg had mastered most of the album.[24] One of the songs mastered at the session, a hidden track called "Endless, Nameless" intended to appear at the end of "Something in the Way", was accidentally left off initial pressings of the album. Weinberg recalled, "In the beginning, it was kind of a verbal thing to put that track at the end. Maybe I misconstrued their instructions, so you can call it my mistake if you want. Maybe I didn't write it down when Nirvana or the record company said to do it. So, when they pressed the first twenty thousand or so CDs, albums, and cassettes, it wasn't on there." When the band discovered the song's omission after listening to its copy of the album, Cobain called Weinberg and demanded he rectify the mistake.[25] Weinberg complied and added about ten minutes of silence between the end of "Something in the Way" and the start of the hidden track on future pressings of the album.[26]"
That's what I was thinking !! It wasn't on the initial pressings of the C.D. So...if he got the CD at the listening party then how was that song on it !? It wasn't. So I call b.s. on this story.
I didn't own a CD player when Nevermind came out. So I had to listen to CDs on my PC. So I put the disc in & fire up Windows Media Player & it does a data read and gives the the track lengths. I see that the last song is 20:35 in length, and i'm thinking, I guess it's got some long instrumental part. Hell yeah i'm listening to this song first because it's probably got some really cool and long guitar solo. So I listen to "Something in the Way" & there is still a lot of time left in the track & i'm thinking I guess it was a production error, but I want to see if there is any sound in this blank ending. So I skip through parts of it, 5 minutes = nothing, 8 minutes = nothing & I end up playing at about half way through Endless Nameless & 'i'm wtf is this'? And I skip back slowly until I find the start. I was unaware of the name of the song for about 3 years, I don't remember how I found the name.
Iain Cowell there's been many of times I fell asleep after something in the way only to be awoken scared shitless from it!
I remember i was listening to Nevermind while going to sleep and then being jolted awake scared out of my mind because Endless Nameless came on. After settling my heart I thought it was the coolest damn thing haha
Goggle products yeah, right. KURT AND BOWIE ARE BOTH GONE. FUCKING DEAL WITH IT!
Haha, it was probably thought to be that way! Kurt did that with one guy on whose couch he slept. Oh yeah, google tells me I'm right :D
"The methodology of the song's inclusion was partly inspired by Kurt's old friend Jesse Reed: back when the pair were sharing a flat in Aberdeen, Kurt recorded himself one time saying, “Jesse . . . Jesse . . . I'm coming to get you,” towards the end of a blank 90 minute cassette. Just as Jesse was about to go to bed, Kurt put the " (quote ends here) tape on and then this part was played when they were asleep. Jesse was freaked and asked: "Did you hear that? What was that?" Kurt only answered "Was what?" and smiled into the darkness. Awesome idea to prank a friend :D
A lot of people who fell asleep while listening to Nevermind were definitely awoken!!!
I Love endless nameless its The ultimate grunge song when i hear it i definalty wake up i Always play it loud its The most beautiful noice i can hear kurt is realy feeling it for sure its one of my favorite grunge songs its almost like a orgasm exuse my Word but it feels like it 🧍♂️🧍♂️🧍♂️🎸🎸❤️❤️❤️❤️😎😎🥰🥰💯❤️🥁
hey man,really like listening to your stories,im a huge nirvana fan and think ive got just about every bootleg out there,haha. so its really cool to hear new stuff!really interesting and you seem like a really genuine guy!keep it up man!
I remember when I first heard Endless Nameless. it made me jump out of skin.
My guess would be that's how he wanted it. To take people by suprise. He seemed have alot of really great and very creative ideas. I love that.
Love Endless Nameless
I wish I had the experience of hearing Endless Namless, in the context of a surprise...darn it
This was the first "secret track" I've heard... playing the cassette version. The only other secret track I've ever heard on CD was the X Files cd, not sure how I discovered the track (manually rewinding the disc instead of playing back a chapter... the center player kept counting negative time! All of a sudden there was a hidden track from Nick Cave, basically track zero. Anyways great video post
There were 2 different versions of the Nevermind CD if I remember correctly. One contained Endless Nameless and the other didn't have it on there. I actually owned both versions and I remember being able to tell the difference by looking on the bottom of the CDs! I remember there being a live performance where Nirvana ended with it and Krist announced it on the mic beforehand as "the secret song". I think it was at Halloween, l think he said "since it's Halloween, we thought we'd play the secret song" or something to that effect. Me and my friends later saw an import that had it listed as Endless Nameless. On the nevermind version of the song, I remember it being documented somewhere describing exactly the part on the song where Kurt busted the guitar. Back then, we searched out anything Nirvana that we could get our hands on and shared it.
YES!!
Sucks to hear that the CD got stolen, but cool story! Love hearing these types of stories.
One day I went out of my house and I let Nevermind on after the end of Something In The Way. I turned the volume at the maxium volume. When I arrived at night, my mother told me that she freaked out when the noise started.
ha ha ha Beautiful!
Nevermind what a classic love that album
I remember when I first heard Endless Nameless. I was sleeping and had Nevermind on......I had fallen asleep at my girlfriends house after school. We were in her bedroom kissing and then just napped..... and the song woke me. I was like “what’s going on!?” Really scared because of how the song just kinda creeps in. She was like....”oh it the secret song at the end”. I was super confused by it and didn’t really understand or get it at the time. My 12 yr or 13 yr old brain just didn’t get the song. It’s one of my favorites. Pure emotion. Watching the live and loud performance actually can make me cry in the right headspace and right day.
I've read, in the media, that the idea of a long silence originally was a joke by Cobain on a roommate.
Cobain recorded a message at the end of a blank audio tape which he then rewinded to its beginning. Then, just before he left the room with the roommate in it, he'd secretly put on the tape. So, after about 30-45 minutes of silence, the roommate suddenly heard a voice calling his name, saying something spooky like: I'm coming to get you!
ha ha !!
Kurt like to destroy his equipment so he didn’t have to do encores
@@davidschlotterback8374 yeah it's become a a tradition. I think it started when musicians thought that if they had an exceptionally good audience they would reward them with an encore as a special "thank you". Now the audience expects it.
The destruction was part of the encore. He would change to a different guitar to destroy(usually) he stopped using the green mustang from slts as he damaged it and didnt want to break it,same with i jaguar, he may have slung it about but, never broke it.
i found about it from a video. so the next day i put nevermind in my cd player and hey it was there! i actually like the song!
endlass nameless for life
When i heard the cd for the first time i didnt new about that song, i was in my room and when "something in the way" endeed i left it.(it was a habit to let the cd player still on xD). Meanwhile in other division of the house i start to ear this aggressive guitar like other dimension just invade my room, as I approached it with this thought "had i turn off the cd?, what is going on??!!" xD , it get louder every step i made. Is was like they knew that is going to be a suprise, I stayed with my mouth open until the end(i wait more 5min to the possibility of a 2º"secret song" ahah that was the troll after being invented
Yeah!!
Fantastic art. Dive, Spirit, Plain, Drain and Endless...eh f it, Lounge Act too are my fave Nirvana songs.
Pen Cap and Moist Vagina too!!
Cool story, that song was really ultimately essential was usually played almost every set
It’s a song that used to play when they destroyed their equipment their guitars and stuff
Yes later on it was
the Observer I like what you do I love the Kurt stories he’s my favorite I’ve been researching Him for like 20 years
During the studio version, Cobain destroys his guitar.
As far as I know, from the media, 'Endless Nameless' was a spontaneously recorded jam which resulted from frustrations during the recording of 'Lithium'. The tempo sped up while Butch Vig wanted it to stay the same. Cobain's destroyed guitar meant trouble in finding another (lef-handed) one to finish the 'Nevermind' sessions. 'Lithium' was then recorded with a click-track, to keep the tempo the same.
Ratelzwatel wow 😮 thank u so much must know all I can about Kurt
Great story!!! I'm new to your channel and it is incredible. What was your relationship with Kurt and krist?? My friends uncles band played a show with nirvana in 1989 at the cabaret metro in Chicago. That was with Channing on drums but I was only 7 at the time so I was not there. Did you know chad or Dave ??
That is a long story.....really it is.. I have talked about it a lot in my Videos. Thanks for the note and coming to the channel
what is your association with krist/nirvana then, how do you know krist? my apologies for my lack of knowledge about you're history and for my abrupt question. regards.
Fucking Albuquerque.. I'm from Farmington, NM, so I know the feeling..
I miss it I have not been there in 18 years. crap
Were you at the Paramount show? Any memories from that night (Halloween ‘91)??
I just did a video with in the last week on that night check it out
I'm from Argentina. Tell me please why Andrew Wood had his funeral on the Paramount on the 1990? You must being famous to have a funeral in a theatre? So strange for me to get. I read this story on Mark Yarm's grunge book.
Hear me, see me, think I can, sigh man
I know how you feel. I had alot of memorabila from my days at the studio, stollen. A 24 ct. (Not plate) gold mushroom necklace, an analog recording (thats all they had back then, lol, but it was atate of the art, with the 36 tracks) by 3 of my good friends at the studio, 2 session men and the man i worked for. It was a limited pressing, called T.S.S. i love these guys and it meant the world to me. For the people/person who stole my treasues, I'm sure most of it meant nothing to them. Except the gold but back then it was probably 200-300 an oz. Not like today at 1,100-1,200 an oz. I had a Memphis newspaper from the day Elvis died, one from N.Y. when John Lennon died and of course the coverage of the plane crash that took out a few of my friends. Those are pretty personal items and i suppose the thief was thinking in terms of dollar signs and not the sentimentality of those objects to me. Sorry you had the c.d., your friend recorded, stollen.
Well we can't take those things with us, but while we are still living, they become sort of a bridge that reminds us of the connection that still is and the love and friendship we shared.
Thanks 4 the video : )
That's funny @the Observer because there's an interview in 92 where Krist mentioned he'd heard stories about people being surprised by the ghost track and he mentioned people "washing dishes". I wonder if he had your story in mind.
Shame about the CD, you had a first pressing.
ha ha, I have not read that. Very possible
If I recall rightly, it was in an interview on french TV.
dummytree the first 20,000 Nevermind CDs were pressed without Endless Nameless, so definitely not an original.
Oh yes, I always get confused about the 20 000 first copies with or without "endless nameless".
Hey man,how are you? I got a good story about that song and the other from In utero (Gallons of.....) too. So back when i was younger me and my friends use to go to a an arcade sallon with pool and other games. And there's a big jukebox with cd's(originals). There were many cool bands in it,and of course me and my friends favorite,Nirvana Nevermind and In Utero.So,when the place was about to close,we use to choose Something in the way or All Apolagies to stay longer,because they are linked to those secrets songs.We listen to 2 songs and only pay for one!!!The whole place had to wait 10 or 15 minutes in silence before the songs starts.The man working there always have to wait to close the place and others customers look at us like,what the F...!!! It was so cool because both are caos and mayhem and we loved it!! Don't feel sorry about the guy he was nasty person!!! Eheheh
Doing really good! Thanks for the story!
Hey I know this may be too much but could you get Krist to appear in one of your videos? I think a videochat or something like that could be an easy way to go and would be super cool.
I just talked him
and asked very respectfully. He just does not want to , right now.
Haha, same way i found out about it LoL
Something about this story doesn't quite add up. You say you had one of the first 100 copies, yet Endless, Nameless isn't on the first 20,000 copies that were sold. It was meant to be on the album but Weinburg left it out by mistake, and it was added later as a secret track. How did you hear it on a copy it shouldn't have existed on?
It was on the copy I was handed at the listening party at the rebar. So yes it was on some of the first copies
Wasn't endless nameless added after a certain amount of cds were made?
Yes, it was added after 50,000 copies
which is weird that you supposedly received the cd at the album release party... surly the ones given out were the first run of discs??
so many of us have similar stories about it so just like many others, I too did not own a CD player when Nevermind came out. And remember when I finally got one, I had the cd playing in my bedroom on my boom box and I had fallen asleep and of course was scared out of my wits to hear this thing come on. There was no internet back then so you couldn't even google it! Fun times...
Bummer!!!
I remember having to sift through bootlegs on kazaa and napster, when I was 8 years old.... XD Yeah I'm a fucking snowflake... Gen x cant even send email XD
Actually, I have to correct you. Endless Nameless was NOT on the original 50,000 or so original pressing copies. If you had the song on yours it had to be a later pressing. My roommate and I bought our copies of Nevermind the day it came out at the record release party and in store concert at Beehive Records in the U District. Later on we heard about the hidden track and checked for it on our CD's. Much to our disappointment at the time our copies did not have the song. As it turned out, though we had the rare copies! I still have that CD in perfect condition.
Well, it was on the copy given to me at the Rebar so...
They just messed up the first 30,000 consumer copies
You probably got an even more special copy!
From the Nevermind Wikipedia entry (also confirmed from other sources):
"Nevermind was mastered on the afternoon of August 2 at The Mastering Lab in Hollywood, California. Howie Weinberg started working alone when no one else showed up at the appointed time in the studio; by the time Nirvana, Andy Wallace, and Gary Gersh arrived, Weinberg had mastered most of the album.[24] One of the songs mastered at the session, a hidden track called "Endless, Nameless" intended to appear at the end of "Something in the Way", was accidentally left off initial pressings of the album. Weinberg recalled, "In the beginning, it was kind of a verbal thing to put that track at the end. Maybe I misconstrued their instructions, so you can call it my mistake if you want. Maybe I didn't write it down when Nirvana or the record company said to do it. So, when they pressed the first twenty thousand or so CDs, albums, and cassettes, it wasn't on there." When the band discovered the song's omission after listening to its copy of the album, Cobain called Weinberg and demanded he rectify the mistake.[25] Weinberg complied and added about ten minutes of silence between the end of "Something in the Way" and the start of the hidden track on future pressings of the album.[26]"
Do you still have Krists number? I love him he’s my favorite
Right around when Kurt passed away Krist changed his number.
@@JohnPurkey1 oh that sucks 😔 what was he like?
Yolkfellaz > Nirvana
Yeah endless nameless wasn't on the first 50,000 copies.
That's what I was thinking !! It wasn't on the initial pressings of the C.D. So...if he got the CD at the listening party then how was that song on it !? It wasn't. So I call b.s. on this story.
Joshua Martins Actually, it was on all pressings of the CD release. The first 150,000 pressings of the vinyl/cassette releases didn't have it.