Panther A: Better armor than M4A3 Better gun than M4A3 Better speed than M4A3 Smoke grenades M4A3: .50 Cal... Gayjin: Yep, seems like the two tanks are equal, they should all go in 5.7.
Exactly, at least with T-34/85 you have speed and trolly Stalinium armor but M4A3(76) being slow and having non-existent armor equal to the superior Panther A? *Once again gaijin spoiling the wehraboos*
Goddamn, so the M4A3 (76) rly is so damn slow. I thought it was just me feeling that Panther and T-34 felt more agile no matter what terrain.. So what makes the M4A3 (76) stays at 5.7 other than the *vertical stabilizer* which is something that the M4A1 (76) has at 5.0? Its non-existent armor and suspension does not justify it to have the 0.7 BR difference than it supposed to Panther A clearly won in terms of firepower and armor, T-34/85 is somewhere in between because if Papa Stalin bless you then you will be granted the invincible Stalinium armor in certain cases (laughs at the impenetrable bouncy driver hatch). And the only downside from Panther A is its reverse speed but only typical dumb wehraboos rush with a tank that has incredible scope, other than that it's an undertiered 5.7 tank that should be facing Jumbo and Pershing at 6.0-6.3 instead of the inferior Shermans.. If Gaijin wasnt being so German/Russian bias, here's how they should put these tanks: >all 76 Shermans (except Jumbo) at 5.0 because it's basically a better Panzer IV made by the Americans. The M4A3(76) can stay at 5.7 IF they fixed its HVSS suspension accuracy bcs its too goddamn slow for a medium tank especially from US. Otherwise, with its current statistics, it should've been 5.3 instead of 5.7 >T-34/85s can stay where they are because they are just THAT good in 5.3-5.7 >Panther A should've sit at 6.0 with the G version. Both got their own playstyles that the wehraboos can choose, A got speed and G got extra armor plating on its turret mantlet. These guys should be facing something on their own size, the 76 Jumbo, so that the German winrate can increase by forcing its players to learn how to not aim like some goddamn stormtroopers
True, I have similar views about Shermans with 76mm as a Germany player at this BR (about 200 battles in Tiger H1 and 60 in Panther D) and honestly they are very easy to kill, slow and their gun is underperforming
Personally, I think the Sherman series of tank was the best as it was practically and did well in almost every single theater of the war, with even seeing use today by some countries. Has better crew survivability in the later models with spring hatches, and is still pretty fast with all things considering. The T-34 variants really didn’t have the easily escape level hatches, and the T-34’s weren’t built to last beyond an expected timeframe (as in the vehicle would stop working after a few months as they predicted vehicles would’ve been shot and killed by that time). And the Panther, the obvious quality over quantity issue and other things involving fuel consumption and the many impractical and non-mass produced upgrades that it saw
@@peridot675 panther isn't really better quality though but more like revolutionary design, it was get push so hard and have so many flaws with little of testing. Sherman build from reality, it design to be a general purpose tank, and do best what it design to do, and can transport it anywhere. T-34 is actually have very good performance and perform much better than sherman in terms of speed and armor effectiveness, Every country have their own idea when it comes to build thing's.
@@Zelectrocutica I do agree with the last statement, as potential history would say. I mean, Italy did build those small tankettes as they would climb steep hills for example. I still find it an interesting discussion to see what tank could overall in a sense, be the best.
What's the point of showing 3 timers that run simultaneously instead of showing actual tank speeds and testing acceleration? Other then getting out of spawn and reaching a spot in your first spawn on a large flat map, top end speed doesn't matter
Also speed helps you get to a better position first like a camping spot or a flank. Speed can also help you out maneuver the turret rotation of and enemy in a close combat situation so
Then why are the M18, EBR, R3, Ru251, and Radkampfwagen claimed to be broken and cancer? The undertiered Panther A should be rebalanced by moving it to 6.0 so it can face 76 Jumbo and Pershing more often, as it should be..
Exactly, at least with T-34/85 you have speed and trolly Stalinium armor but M4A3(76) being slow and having non-existent armor equal to the superior Panther A? *gaijoob be spoiling the wehraboos* At least move the damn Panther A to 6.0 so it can face 76 Jumbo and Pershing more often, as it should be
СОЮЗ НЕРУШИМЫЙ РЕСПУБЛИК СВОБОДНЫХ. СПЛОТИЛА НАВЕКИ ВЕЛИКАЯ РУСЬ. ДА ЗДРАВСТВУЕТ СОЗДАННЫЙ ВОЛЕЙ НАРОДОВ - ВЕЛИКИЙ, МОГУЧИЙ СОВЕТСКИЙ СОЮЗ !!!!!!!!!!!!
Other race ... for what? powerful engine ? You run a race but there are no hillsides or potholes. You can surpass battlefield obstacles and compete for "off-road" performance.
If you take the extra armor off the panthers turret it will be much fast that useless weight is 450 kg if I’m right... anyway panther wins 1 place Sherman and T-34-85 lose
Panther win it can pen the other every where but itself is for them unpenetrable in the most Spots and the t-34 and m4 have not the guns to pen the main plate also the panther have a faster turret
Panther is as heavy as IS-2 and yet basically on par with T-34 in speed.It's such a great tank.
I think that's one of the reasons it's suspension broke down so much. But yeah it's great in war thunder
OH YES THE 3 LORDS OF WW2
Everybody gangsta until there's an armor test. Poor shermon
@@Dan86130 XD
everybody gangster until gun depression test
@@niklasw.1297 who do you think would win
@@transmissiongone not the T-34 i guess
Panther A:
Better armor than M4A3
Better gun than M4A3
Better speed than M4A3
Smoke grenades
M4A3:
.50 Cal...
Gayjin:
Yep, seems like the two tanks are equal, they should all go in 5.7.
Sherman gets stabilized gun, huge advantage.
Exactly, at least with T-34/85 you have speed and trolly Stalinium armor but M4A3(76) being slow and having non-existent armor equal to the superior Panther A?
*Once again gaijin spoiling the wehraboos*
@@titan_tanker the Sherman's are some of the best tanks in the game, don't see the issue here
Panther is quite easy to take down
@@JohnDiabol one shot and go boom every where on you tank.
Mid war shermans: I AM SPEED
Post war shermans: I AM GOD
Next : Sd.Kfz 234 (Puma) vs Type 16 MCV
Goddamn, so the M4A3 (76) rly is so damn slow. I thought it was just me feeling that Panther and T-34 felt more agile no matter what terrain..
So what makes the M4A3 (76) stays at 5.7 other than the *vertical stabilizer* which is something that the M4A1 (76) has at 5.0? Its non-existent armor and suspension does not justify it to have the 0.7 BR difference than it supposed to
Panther A clearly won in terms of firepower and armor, T-34/85 is somewhere in between because if Papa Stalin bless you then you will be granted the invincible Stalinium armor in certain cases (laughs at the impenetrable bouncy driver hatch). And the only downside from Panther A is its reverse speed but only typical dumb wehraboos rush with a tank that has incredible scope, other than that it's an undertiered 5.7 tank that should be facing Jumbo and Pershing at 6.0-6.3 instead of the inferior Shermans..
If Gaijin wasnt being so German/Russian bias, here's how they should put these tanks:
>all 76 Shermans (except Jumbo) at 5.0 because it's basically a better Panzer IV made by the Americans. The M4A3(76) can stay at 5.7 IF they fixed its HVSS suspension accuracy bcs its too goddamn slow for a medium tank especially from US. Otherwise, with its current statistics, it should've been 5.3 instead of 5.7
>T-34/85s can stay where they are because they are just THAT good in 5.3-5.7
>Panther A should've sit at 6.0 with the G version. Both got their own playstyles that the wehraboos can choose, A got speed and G got extra armor plating on its turret mantlet. These guys should be facing something on their own size, the 76 Jumbo, so that the German winrate can increase by forcing its players to learn how to not aim like some goddamn stormtroopers
True, I have similar views about Shermans with 76mm as a Germany player at this BR (about 200 battles in Tiger H1 and 60 in Panther D) and honestly they are very easy to kill, slow and their gun is underperforming
@@daryrizki5236 they can re-put T20 at 5.7 just like how they re-put the 8.0 Obj 906 at 7.7 when it used to be 7.3 long time ago
As i have expected, t34 85 wins
Barely beating the panther
@Samuel Gracia panther is superior to any T-34, but T-44 beats it
@@MirrorBusta2nd fake, Soviet tanks have stalinium and are guided by Stalin himself
@@MirrorBusta2nd yep, i actually like panther in terms of armor
The easy 8 is the only tank I use at 5.7
Do t29, tiger 2 h, and centurion mk2
mk3, there are no mk2
@misterming123 that's the mk1, iDiOt
Ww2 vs cold war? Nice idiot.
Nice, how about backward race next time ?
All have the same reverse speed lol
@@jorislangenkamp2833 Happy t25 noices
The a3 got the add on armor? Would removing it affect speed though?
The Panther A has add-on armor as well
I doubt it, the M4A3E8 is limited to 43km/h (27mi/h). Pretty sure it would just top out at that speed anyways.
All 3 tanks have their add on armour
T 34-85 have it too, But not much
Miss that version of Panther A,they could’ve just make it 6.0 dude but no fucking Gaijin had to nerf it’s engine.
Gaijini: "tOTaLLy bAlANCEd!"
Впервые угадал)
я тож, ну просто очевидно было
я ставил на Патеру
I love how people took that 1:20 min vid and make clear statement about this tank is inferior or superior...
Personally, I think the Sherman series of tank was the best as it was practically and did well in almost every single theater of the war, with even seeing use today by some countries. Has better crew survivability in the later models with spring hatches, and is still pretty fast with all things considering. The T-34 variants really didn’t have the easily escape level hatches, and the T-34’s weren’t built to last beyond an expected timeframe (as in the vehicle would stop working after a few months as they predicted vehicles would’ve been shot and killed by that time). And the Panther, the obvious quality over quantity issue and other things involving fuel consumption and the many impractical and non-mass produced upgrades that it saw
@@peridot675 panther isn't really better quality though but more like revolutionary design, it was get push so hard and have so many flaws with little of testing.
Sherman build from reality, it design to be a general purpose tank, and do best what it design to do, and can transport it anywhere.
T-34 is actually have very good performance and perform much better than sherman in terms of speed and armor effectiveness,
Every country have their own idea when it comes to build thing's.
@@Zelectrocutica I do agree with the last statement, as potential history would say. I mean, Italy did build those small tankettes as they would climb steep hills for example. I still find it an interesting discussion to see what tank could overall in a sense, be the best.
How about a Tiger I VS. a JS-2 VS. a M26 Pershing.
L3/33 vs ASU 57
#4
Very cool, pal
And the reason why deep operation with t 34 is op
did you compare them with same crew or.....for me panther seems somehow sluggis compared from what i see when i drive it
Okay cool now let's make a video who got their crew knock out first by artillery
Even IL-2 cannons can pen panther roof armor
What's the point of showing 3 timers that run simultaneously instead of showing actual tank speeds and testing acceleration? Other then getting out of spawn and reaching a spot in your first spawn on a large flat map, top end speed doesn't matter
Fact: speed doesn't affect your skills
Fact: Skills don’t always win battles
Also speed helps you get to a better position first like a camping spot or a flank. Speed can also help you out maneuver the turret rotation of and enemy in a close combat situation so
@@press_580 you roasted him
Then why are the M18, EBR, R3, Ru251, and Radkampfwagen claimed to be broken and cancer?
The undertiered Panther A should be rebalanced by moving it to 6.0 so it can face 76 Jumbo and Pershing more often, as it should be..
I've opened pandora box
music too loud turn it down a wee bit no problem
Idea: IS6 vs T29 vs Tiger II (H) Sla.16
Yes Yes Yes
I thought this was gonna be in gta5
Idea
Is4 vs maus vs t34/t29
Maus sucks on mobility, IS-4 sucks on firepower, idk about T34 tho but it has a lot of weak spots
Centurion Mk 1 is clearly superior than all 3
The fact that Gaijin put the M4A3 at the same BR as the Panther is absolutely disgusting
But how else could you explain the poor performance of German teams? Must be inferior equipment right? Riiiiight??
Exactly, at least with T-34/85 you have speed and trolly Stalinium armor but M4A3(76) being slow and having non-existent armor equal to the superior Panther A?
*gaijoob be spoiling the wehraboos*
At least move the damn Panther A to 6.0 so it can face 76 Jumbo and Pershing more often, as it should be
@@titan_tanker Yeah, the Jumbo 76 is the closest you could get to a perfect counter to the panther
interesting content
Я не понял что-то не так Т-34 намного быстро скорость чем Пантера...🤔
А говорили ,что Шерман самый быстрый
who will win? havent even watched the video and i can tell. the panther will win.
Idea: multiturretet monsters, you can choose...
Русский победит!!!👍👍👍😊
Легендарная Т-34-85!!
Nice 👍
I thought this about tank combat ability.
СОЮЗ НЕРУШИМЫЙ РЕСПУБЛИК СВОБОДНЫХ. СПЛОТИЛА НАВЕКИ ВЕЛИКАЯ РУСЬ. ДА ЗДРАВСТВУЕТ СОЗДАННЫЙ ВОЛЕЙ НАРОДОВ - ВЕЛИКИЙ, МОГУЧИЙ СОВЕТСКИЙ СОЮЗ !!!!!!!!!!!!
T-95 vs Black Prince?
Panther A drives like a Porsche 😉
Why panther has second place?
because it was slower
@@punisher3607 bruh
Actually panther is that close to t-34 i think they are both 1st but in combat a panther is way more powerfull than t-34 and also t44
maybe im a bird
please next Maus vs T95 let's go race
t-34 more better at speed
Other race ... for what?
powerful engine ?
You run a race but there are no hillsides or potholes. You can surpass battlefield obstacles and compete for "off-road" performance.
This is bullying dude the Sherman’s trying his best
Soviets ruel
mosic plz
What about armour? T34 is bad in this, Panther can do oneshot.
All sherman lovers crying rn
The answer is ALWAYS T34. *Insert ear rape anthem*
Sherman is slowest than a panther
If you take the extra armor off the panthers turret it will be much fast that useless weight is 450 kg if I’m right... anyway panther wins 1 place Sherman and T-34-85 lose
Panther win it can pen the other every where but itself is for them unpenetrable in the most Spots and the t-34 and m4 have not the guns to pen the main plate also the panther have a faster turret
я за Т-34-85
wtf is this back ground music ?. this is a war game bro
Really? I thought it was Tetris
Hi
T-34 IS SPEEEEEEED
gErMaNy SuFfErs
almost 200mm pen on a 75mm high velocity cannon and frontal armor that only russian heavy tanks can pen at it's br
@@MirrorBusta2nd I know that's the point. Germany is ridiculous
Panther A should be moved to 6.0 so it can face 76 Jumbo and Pershing more often, *change my mind*
Panther is faster do it in normal not realistic
Whats the point in that
Wdym for normal?
Rusian bias will win
Russian bias ofc why is this even a thing..russian bias allways wins
What bias is this? Allied propaganda again!
Song does not fit video