I think saitamas desire to fight someone strong is the reason Why god is appearing more and more. Im saying saitamas desire is so strong it might be effecting the world somehow
Desires drive so many character and powers in OPM, just the crab man desired so much crab and became one, Saitama desired power and got it, I think your theory is accurate
yeah, I agree seeing how God is most definitely the final enemy in opm and witnessing how much he's trying to get rid of him considering his very existence a threat to him since he doesn't have a limit to how powerful he can become it just doesn't make sense to that god would give him the very power he considers a threat to him meaning he is indeed the one who placed limiters on humans bc he feared this would happen
My theory for how Saitama broke his limiter is his limiter some how got set so low the simple act of training like he did was what broke it. He wasn't supposed to ever amount to anything he was supposed to be a perpetually weak salary man but because he challenged himself his limiter was so low he easily broke it. Which is comedic and fits his back story.
@@sebastiansanchez375Saitama defeated the crab with pure strategy because he went straight for its weak point, no matter how weak Saitama was at that moment, he defeated it with pure skill.
@@bwahchannel9746phycos said not exactly but this it what it means If you coom close to death then coom back in a specific way you will become mindless brutes and sitama accidentally made the perfect condition to break his limiter
If you think about it, saitama's power made an impact on his life, mentality, and emotions so bad that it made him bored as hell to even not think straight and think anything, that's why he lacks the power to realise, no wonder he's being slept on
Tsukuyomi didnt make tatsumaki or fubuki, they were natural espers and tsukuyomi was trying to exploit young tatsumaki's powers, btw they also make artificial ones which is what that guy who tried to take psychos was
I'd recommend checking out Zhoniin's stuff, one of the best for in depth explanations about OPM's deeper lore. Weeb Commander made some good points here, but he miscontrued a good bit about the details of the "limiter", god's relation to humans (esp. Garou), monsters, and Saitama. Here's a good place to start w/ Zhoniin's stuff: ruclips.net/video/lADkThCfKD8/видео.html.
Heroes in OPM all derive their powers from their behaviour and the things they do in their lives. Pig God eats lots of food so his power is related to that for example. If Saitama's desire was to be the strongest hero and able to achieve whatever he put his mind to then it would make sense that his kind of 'monsterisation' would be related to that. We see the same progression with Garou as his desires are similar to become the strongest, however he was stopped in his tracks by someone who has already achieved this goal.
You just are a clever guy, I appreciate the vision of OPM's universe and really like your interpretation of it. I saw too this "scaling" from Saitama clearer before his fight with Garou.
Etoilec did a phenomenal Goku vs Saitama series and did the same MC being limitless scenario. Both Goku and Saitama just kept powering up to reach one another. Was awesome
@whygiveup11 did you watch the tournament of power? Goku powered up differently like 5 times.. even Vegeta tells that lame ass clown Belmod, Saiyans get stronger continuously the longer a battle goes..
@@hunterkage2842 Well, I wouldn't know. I only go on what I've heard in powerscaling and read on wikis. I have a cursory understanding of Dragonball, because it seems excruciatingly boring to sit through.
Fun Fact Saitama does still train. It was said by Murata that he is still training. But Murata didn't said what kind of exercise was Saitama doing whether if it is still the same as the old or a new one.
I think it’s a new one considering he’s probably training either his mind or his spirit which would probably explain a little bit more in the web comics why his soul was super fucking thick at least from the web comics explanation of it making him resistant to psychic attacks.
As a Webcomic reader I can say that a lot of this stuff is confirmed in the Webcomic, there’s a lot of dialogue that actually gives insight and I’ve been rereading the webcomic and manga to do a most powerful OPM character list
This reminds so much of the "story of Superman" consept in dc. Where it practically the same thing for superman to always gain the strength to beat the villain. Obviously, cap comic and battle Shonen are similar in that the protag is as strong as the need to be but find it interesting. Both series find different ways of exploring this concept.
I’m not so sure if that’s how ascended characters grow though. Garou was also an ascended being who could grow infinitely, but clearly he had a set growth rate. I believe that Saitama also has a set growth rate. It’s just much higher than Saitama.
Yeah and mostly anybody who is on an outer versus type of level as well they really don’t want to give Saitama his prominence or do Cuz when you live in this part of the power scaling community where they want feats over statements or even the fact that the man is clearly ready and willing to go up against anybody and be the perfect counter to them yeah they’ll never except it like some Thor fan boys will never accept hulk ever beating Thor but it’s a painful reality that everyone Hass to face eventually even Thor
@@mattmetawolf8634 exactly bro! Everyone be like, "ohh Goku is universal." Yet he can't take a planet exploding in his face, he can't survive in space, he doesn't have limitless stamina and he has to constantly train to keep himself in shape or else he will be hurt even by a bullet 🤦🏿♂️
There is a difference between Saitama’s unlimited potential and any other‘s unlimited potential. Everyone else has that due purely for the need to continue the plot, but Saitama has it because it’s his power and only partly plot.
That theory also applies to the battle between Garou and Saitama. Garou kept copying Saitama’s power level, so Saitama got exponential growth so that he can land hits to actually damage Garou who is getting left behind because he cannot copy Saitama fast enough.
A friend of mine keeps on saying that Saitama is a gag character where the story starts at the end. After watching this, I think I'm gonna take it a little more seriously. What if Saitama's training was a massive plot where he kept on coming across God's manipulation, stopped them by accident, and kept on going to train? Then God found out, sent more minions, got them killed, rinse and repeat? This also brings up the question of why people are transforming. We get an answer, but what if, in actuality, God is going through what Saitama is going through, and just wants to see if anything can achieve what it did, and get it to feel something again?
That’s kind of what was happening already considering monsters were pretty much on this earth for about God knows how long see what I did there also blast was also one of the strongest mortals on earth before Saitama‘s rise to prominence which either God was drawn here because of a prophecy to find out which mortal it was first thinking it was Blast but then starting to realize it was Saitama as the moon is always looking down like an eye
@@mattmetawolf8634god wasnt drawn to the earth by prophecy, he has been trapped for years. he needs a great sacrifice to revive him back to his true form, this has already been shown. he isnt drawn to earth because of blast or saitama, but he clearly is aware of both of their existences, as they hinder his return
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That could be a pretty good case right there to give them that one said that king should never be able to know what he’s fully capable of however it’s not as a measurable all the time considering it didn’t protect them from cosmic radiation poisoning
This conclusion pictures the best theory Ive heard about Saitama's power. Considering the show unapologetically over exaggerates common shonen tropes it makes so much sense. His power is simply deus ex machina since he is the main character. Brilliant
@@mattmetawolf8634 100% My only thought is in the impossible case of them being equal, the battle ends as soon as the two realize they both want to protect earth, then probably go off to get some food and goku schedule training spars. Kinda mimicking the after Broly fight scene, provide a bit to show good will, and then ask saitama if he would ever be interested in a spar or training together
For Saitama I would have to agree he’s as strong as he needs to be relative to whoever he’s fighting. King I feel is as strong as others believe him to be, or cosmic luck and hilarity. Great review~
god placed a limiter on every living being in the verse, and saitama was able to remove his limiter on his own. his power isnt because of his limiter (which everyone has) its because of his lack there of
To make it's more simple about the limitless, It's like a bug in a game where you can keep killing level 1 enemies and still getting experience accordingly, like gaining a few % of exp bar with just killing a level 1 mob while you're currently at level 100. And it stay that way forever. That's why his training though seems too weak to train such power, it works for saitama, and only him can do it.
yep that's why I say that he has Absolute Potential since he copied Garou's ultimate move. The reason why I said that is bc it means "The ability to have unlimited potential and capacity for growth and learning".
Over thinking Saitama's abilities is like trying to over explain a joke to someone when it falls flat. One, the creator of One Punch Man, said in interviews that Saitama was created as the ultimate "my dad can beat up your dad" argument ender. He has the literal power to beat anyone with one punch. He is 100% a parody character, a living toon force anime hero. The only time he will lose a fight- like against the mosquito or the cat- is when it is funnier for him to lose. That's all there is to it. It's so simple people overthink it massively, and miss the point of his character.
What if saitama was given the opportunity to take God's power (maybe to be used to fight blast and his group) , but instead of taking it, he punches God. This could also be the reason that God looks so tattered that they also could have made contact after he was smashed into the moon or possibly earlier
It’s sorta like how the hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets while saitama gets more powerful the stronger his opponents get, he is fated to win basically.
So glad someone of your analytical quality is doing one punch man. I fell off boruto as it disrespects naruto but ops is an obsession to me and not many can do it justice, Thank you
While Goku constantly ascends, he rarely wins alone. I feel like that's the real reason Saitama beats most MC but also why I'm just not invested in OPM. Other shoenen there's a lot of wondering who will be there and how they "win"
In the panel where they showed the back of Saitamas head looks like the time he saw the back of his head in the miror wich probably is when he broke his limiter.
@@absolutleynotanalien8096 I think in the bonus chapter it said it was 1 year and a half into Saitama training. you can also guess he wasn't awakened because he still had hair when that happened. You can look it up or find it on youtube
Whenever Stan Lee was asked "who is stronger than who" questions, his answer was always something like "Simple, if the writer is a big Hulk fan, then Hulk will be stronger, if the writer is a big Thor fan, then Thor will be stronger". I think the same principle applies here.
Yeah that doesn’t work in today’s context too much that can work for some fights where the character has an ambiguous level of power like let’s say the grand priest versus the God hand your guess would be as good as mines on that one but if its characters have been character determined since the beginning like Thor and hulk hulk clearly has the better feats and the better strength. anything Thor hast to throw out at him is pretty much just about what hope would expect here until Thor ultimately admits at some point due to his limits that hulk is clearly the greatest fighter he’s ever had to deal with if not one of the greatest that he’s had a hard time taking down
@@festral7509 are seriously suggesting that I am saying something like that are you just putting words in my mouth and he may have understood them during the concept of when they were created back when they were meant to be equals the times have changed and characters have gotten stronger and given that he is no longer among the living hulk completely out ranks Thor in terms of strength or have you not seen the immortal hulk comic ? because I know Stan didn’t
@@mattmetawolf8634 I was asking a question, I wasn't never putting words in anyone's mouth. over all, If he says the writer gets to choose how can you deny that? Behind all the smoke and mirrors, all the so called feats are just lines on a piece of paper and could be rewritten by a new author at any time regardless of whether or not it makes sense to the plot.
@@festral7509 so literally what you’re saying is it doesn’t matter it’s all fiction as your argument practically because the writer writes him even though the original guy you literally just ripped that from practically has an outdated thought process on that type of level of writing considering it only works for characters who are probably regarded as newcomers but after a while like with hulk and Thor the powers between the two clearly was set apart due to the canon continuing without said Stan lee and you kind of did put words in my mouth but let’s apply this archaic thought to every character right saying Deku could easily solo the entire black clover universe know it you do realize there is objective truth and canon to these characters that are written write these words on a page as you put it. Do you have some form of objective meaning to the exact fictional cannon that they are immersing said people into
YOOOO MAKE NICK SEE THIS IN EPISODE 5 OF ONE PUNCH MAN AFTER HIS TEST ONE OF THE GUYS WHO SEES HIS TEST SAY "frankly, its as If there's a God inside of him." HE MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING!!!!
The best answer to who would win between saitama and goku is that everyone loses. Theyd keep getting stronger and eventually destroy the universe with the force generated by their fists colliding, killing everyone. Then theyd prolly both survive somehow because plot armor and have to work together to bring the universe back into existence or something. Damn now im thinking that would be a hilarious crossover movie
The limiter does not just determine an overall ceiling on power, it's more about restricting the growth itself. Characters with a limiter need to keep pushing themselves to their limits and can only grow so fast. Someone with no limiter, like Saitama, can grow without any restriction whatsoever, there's no limit on the rate of growth. So while it's true that Saitama has infinite potential, in practice he can still use any level of strength that he wants/needs to. In effect, he might as well have infinite strength.
Honestly I dont believe Saitama Is like Shonnen MCs at all. He's a Shonnen Superman. The creators of superman once said in an interview that superman will always be strong as he needs to be to win. Its how he lifted a book of infinite pages which is literally the heaviest object that could exist. Heres a small list of things superman has done that saitama later does: 1.Punch through dimensions 2.Moves fast enough to punch multiple times simultaneously 3.Manipulated Metaphysical space/Energies 4.Be a symbol of hope in the bleakest of times I dont believe they are completely the same but their stories are effectively the same. Its not about a mortal trying to be the strongest. but Trying to live a normal life amongst men but understanding their abilities gives others a reason to strive for and hope toward. I mean saitama has inspired genos since the day they met, King gained the courage and hope that saitama will always be there. They Are Symbols of Hope, Inspiration, and Courage that makes others want to do the same.
Absolutely correct considering comics was also an inspiration for one as well another thing he left out not to shit all over his theory but Saitama feels like he’s more built to survive in a comic universe then he is a shonen protagonist as universe these guys are strong and yeah they have limitless potential but they’re not the same level of limitless as Saitama‘s limitless strength and potential since I believe he has the power of freedom in case you don’t know search up wiki super power is the power of freedom it allows you to practically do almost anything you want and it fits into the category of what his power set might actually be
To also expand upon this point freedom allows you to pretty much be as perfect as you want to be or give you a ridiculous weakness such as but not limited to not being able to outright chill an entire mosquito even when your best efforts is to do so basically allowing yourself to get scratched by a cat even though it should have no effect on you Back before he was pretty awake and he was plagued by a bad cavity and once that got knocked out of his mouth it was almost like as if he felt nothing and the pain was going to transformed him into it a further stage in his awakening is it all the time . Another case in point being able to control totality which allows you to basically go to a certain place in time now it’s a pretty low level of totality that he’s shown right now but the closest we’ve got is being able to enter spiritual planes so long as the door is unlocked for him and he’s always allowed in breaking into a metaphysical space is pretty much something I would regard as troublesome and worrisome especially considering we don’t know what high degree he’s basically capable that then of course being able to appear in one of Garou ‘s portals but until we see more it’s quite possible he can break out or break into spaces he wants to or doesn’t want to be in just by sheer force and will alone now as for anything pretty much higher and all that like almighty laws and will Biden buy them it’s probably going to be revealed at some point that he doesn’t have to abide by any of that given that he didn’t have to abide by natural human limitations and while he is still limited by his mind The moment he lets the restraints off when actually getting serious it probably allows him to really do as much as he wants while still having full control of his serious state
Agree with most of your point, except your theory of Tatsumaki reconsider God's offer. I think she was just using a part of her power, so it's no surprise that Saitama said it's not that different from Fubuki since Tatsumaki definitely didn't go all out at that point
he did removed his limiter by those workout those includes some factor why his limiter was removed. those workout+ factors= all was needed to removed his limiter.
I feel like the line graph of their power growing was Garous interpretation of what was going on. He believes himself to be so strong that saitama “had” to be growing during their fight. When in reality, he wasn’t growing at all, and was just better. So the line graph was his justification for why he was still losing.
Exactly I don’t know where people are getting this it’s Garou’s interpretation from if it was his interpretation then it would have been him speaking his interpretation was when he immediately said how can I being with such a limit was power be allowed to run free on earth
Saitama died during training. He refused to use heat in the winter or AC in the summer. This cause significant brain trauma along with his training regime where he broke the bones in his arms and legs. This plus caused extreme trauma and placed him in a coma. As a result he believes everything is happening you see in the show/manga.
There is actually more than one god as both saitama and flash saw it sleeping and before they could see more, the s class hero 1 appeared and took the object that leads to its dimension.
I wonder, why your theory matches mine. I put my theory when the cosmic fear garou vs saitama chapter released. Except the part you said, goku would never lose to saitama in their versus battle.
Theory. God isn't actually a god at all. Rather than a being with strength so great we would perceive it as God. Strength that was turned against the real God and overthrew them. A God who then somehow reawakened within Saitama. And this self proclaimed 'God' is so interested and hell bent on defeating Saitama in order to finish what he started and claiming the title of God
I must say, it is really obvious that Saitama is getting all of his power from his bald head, in exchange for his hair he was able to achieve his dream lol 🤣
I hope god is just a person with the balls chin, and so saitama trying to attack that kid (even though he did save him) was the moment he turned away from god 😂
I disagree on one point. If Saitama didn’t have the self doubt and feelings of a human he wouldn’t be a hero anymore. He’d either be an uncaring God or a Monster in my opinion
Honestly the only anime characters that even stand a chance against Saitama are probably Zeno and end of manga Shinra as Shinra-bansho man. Possibly GER/Tusk Act 4/Soft and Wet: Go Beyond but kinda doubtful
I think saitamas desire to fight someone strong is the reason Why god is appearing more and more. Im saying saitamas desire is so strong it might be effecting the world somehow
Nice theory
bro just summoned the strongest possible threat off of desires alone on acsadent that’s a very siatama thing to do
@@opticsop975 it really is and fels like something One would write about
Desires drive so many character and powers in OPM, just the crab man desired so much crab and became one, Saitama desired power and got it, I think your theory is accurate
yeah, I agree seeing how God is most definitely the final enemy in opm and witnessing how much he's trying to get rid of him considering his very existence a threat to him since he doesn't have a limit to how powerful he can become it just doesn't make sense to that god would give him the very power he considers a threat to him meaning he is indeed the one who placed limiters on humans bc he feared this would happen
My theory for how Saitama broke his limiter is his limiter some how got set so low the simple act of training like he did was what broke it. He wasn't supposed to ever amount to anything he was supposed to be a perpetually weak salary man but because he challenged himself his limiter was so low he easily broke it. Which is comedic and fits his back story.
yeah that was always my theory aswell
this man literally changed his destiny
Idk because the first monster he fights requires 1 class A hero or 5 class B heroes as it is a tiger level threat
@@sebastiansanchez375Saitama defeated the crab with pure strategy because he went straight for its weak point, no matter how weak Saitama was at that moment, he defeated it with pure skill.
saitama has faced near deaths many times when he trained in 3 years so constantly breaking his limits many times made him an ascended being.
Technically he never died he just got pitied on
@@bwahchannel9746phycos said not exactly but this it what it means
If you coom close to death then coom back in a specific way you will become mindless brutes and sitama accidentally made the perfect condition to break his limiter
@@Jurassic-garguntar-zombie If people could become this strong by cooming close to death, alot more people will fail NNN
Does, saitama achieving everything he thinks he can do, mean that he doesn’t believe he’ll ever catch a sale on time 😅
Or catch a mosquito?
If you think about it, saitama's power made an impact on his life, mentality, and emotions so bad that it made him bored as hell to even not think straight and think anything, that's why he lacks the power to realise, no wonder he's being slept on
If he was truly the ultimate person he would never miss a sale.
@@bwahchannel9746 Plot, writers: Let me introduce myself
Or beat King in a video game 🎮
Tsukuyomi didnt make tatsumaki or fubuki, they were natural espers and tsukuyomi was trying to exploit young tatsumaki's powers, btw they also make artificial ones which is what that guy who tried to take psychos was
This is by far the best and most indepth explanation to Saitama’s strength and his connection to God.
But I think the premise of the video is wrong. I don’t think it has been stated or implied that God gave Saitama his powers in any way
I'd recommend checking out Zhoniin's stuff, one of the best for in depth explanations about OPM's deeper lore. Weeb Commander made some good points here, but he miscontrued a good bit about the details of the "limiter", god's relation to humans (esp. Garou), monsters, and Saitama. Here's a good place to start w/ Zhoniin's stuff: ruclips.net/video/lADkThCfKD8/видео.html.
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Heroes in OPM all derive their powers from their behaviour and the things they do in their lives. Pig God eats lots of food so his power is related to that for example. If Saitama's desire was to be the strongest hero and able to achieve whatever he put his mind to then it would make sense that his kind of 'monsterisation' would be related to that. We see the same progression with Garou as his desires are similar to become the strongest, however he was stopped in his tracks by someone who has already achieved this goal.
You just are a clever guy, I appreciate the vision of OPM's universe and really like your interpretation of it. I saw too this "scaling" from Saitama clearer before his fight with Garou.
Etoilec did a phenomenal Goku vs Saitama series and did the same MC being limitless scenario. Both Goku and Saitama just kept powering up to reach one another. Was awesome
Goku can only power up so much during a single encounter during a battle though. Goku power doesn't keep going up like Saitama does.
That's cooky. Gohan is the one with infinite potential, not Goku. Goku just has an infinite drive to get stronger and fight more.
@@apalsnerg Actually all DB characters have infinite potential, some just raise at a higher rate.
@whygiveup11 did you watch the tournament of power? Goku powered up differently like 5 times.. even Vegeta tells that lame ass clown Belmod, Saiyans get stronger continuously the longer a battle goes..
@@hunterkage2842 Well, I wouldn't know. I only go on what I've heard in powerscaling and read on wikis. I have a cursory understanding of Dragonball, because it seems excruciatingly boring to sit through.
Saitama is a concept given form ...
He is the concept of main character wins.
@@Tethloach1 probably true but I choose to think that he’s a human given the power of freedom true freedom
Fun Fact
Saitama does still train.
It was said by Murata that he is still training. But Murata didn't said what kind of exercise was Saitama doing whether if it is still the same as the old or a new one.
I think it’s a new one considering he’s probably training either his mind or his spirit which would probably explain a little bit more in the web comics why his soul was super fucking thick at least from the web comics explanation of it making him resistant to psychic attacks.
As a Webcomic reader I can say that a lot of this stuff is confirmed in the Webcomic, there’s a lot of dialogue that actually gives insight and I’ve been rereading the webcomic and manga to do a most powerful OPM character list
Saitama's strength operates on a level of quantum need
This reminds so much of the "story of Superman" consept in dc. Where it practically the same thing for superman to always gain the strength to beat the villain. Obviously, cap comic and battle Shonen are similar in that the protag is as strong as the need to be but find it interesting. Both series find different ways of exploring this concept.
Saitama's power is the friends he beat up along the way
all ima say is this is so trippy when you look at everything as a message
I’m not so sure if that’s how ascended characters grow though. Garou was also an ascended being who could grow infinitely, but clearly he had a set growth rate. I believe that Saitama also has a set growth rate. It’s just much higher than Saitama.
Slowly becoming my fave of your channels bro and I’m almost as big a Naruto fan as you are. Keep killing it my dude!!!
The truth most people will never accept is Saitama beating Goku. That's just the hard truth for most people.
Yeah and mostly anybody who is on an outer versus type of level as well they really don’t want to give Saitama his prominence or do Cuz when you live in this part of the power scaling community where they want feats over statements or even the fact that the man is clearly ready and willing to go up against anybody and be the perfect counter to them yeah they’ll never except it like some Thor fan boys will never accept hulk ever beating Thor but it’s a painful reality that everyone Hass to face eventually even Thor
@@mattmetawolf8634 exactly bro! Everyone be like, "ohh Goku is universal." Yet he can't take a planet exploding in his face, he can't survive in space, he doesn't have limitless stamina and he has to constantly train to keep himself in shape or else he will be hurt even by a bullet 🤦🏿♂️
But he is him clashing fists with beerus threatened the universe and shook an infinite void
@@ihka4767 That's true, but in the end Goku is not as strong as everyone makes him to be. He has a lot of weaknesses and flaws.
@@ihka4767 That's true, but in the end Goku is not as strong as everyone makes him to be. He has a lot of weaknesses and flaws.
There is a difference between Saitama’s unlimited potential and any other‘s unlimited potential.
Everyone else has that due purely for the need to continue the plot, but Saitama has it because it’s his power and only partly plot.
so in other words, its also just plot
That theory also applies to the battle between Garou and Saitama.
Garou kept copying Saitama’s power level, so Saitama got exponential growth so that he can land hits to actually damage Garou who is getting left behind because he cannot copy Saitama fast enough.
A friend of mine keeps on saying that Saitama is a gag character where the story starts at the end. After watching this, I think I'm gonna take it a little more seriously. What if Saitama's training was a massive plot where he kept on coming across God's manipulation, stopped them by accident, and kept on going to train? Then God found out, sent more minions, got them killed, rinse and repeat?
This also brings up the question of why people are transforming. We get an answer, but what if, in actuality, God is going through what Saitama is going through, and just wants to see if anything can achieve what it did, and get it to feel something again?
That’s kind of what was happening already considering monsters were pretty much on this earth for about God knows how long see what I did there also blast was also one of the strongest mortals on earth before Saitama‘s rise to prominence which either God was drawn here because of a prophecy to find out which mortal it was first thinking it was Blast but then starting to realize it was Saitama as the moon is always looking down like an eye
@@mattmetawolf8634god wasnt drawn to the earth by prophecy, he has been trapped for years. he needs a great sacrifice to revive him back to his true form, this has already been shown. he isnt drawn to earth because of blast or saitama, but he clearly is aware of both of their existences, as they hinder his return
while the story may start at the end, that has nothing to do with being a gag character. saitama is not a gag character, he is a parody character.
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His back in the web cosmic
I have a theory. Saitama came into being because of King's immeasurable luck. He's always called forth when King's Aura alone won't be enough.
That could be a pretty good case right there to give them that one said that king should never be able to know what he’s fully capable of however it’s not as a measurable all the time considering it didn’t protect them from cosmic radiation poisoning
This conclusion pictures the best theory Ive heard about Saitama's power. Considering the show unapologetically over exaggerates common shonen tropes it makes so much sense. His power is simply deus ex machina since he is the main character. Brilliant
Saitama as a second Haruhi? A self-limited (limited by his own capability to imagine what he is able to do) reality warper?
Intriguing.
I can't wait until they animate this
He gets his power from grocery shopping
God is shook that Saitama is stronger than all of his creations
If that god is only 5D saitama is 4D but endless power to destroy 4D world so there =
@@eua4808bro just started speaking absolute irrelevant nonsense to sound cool
@@InfamousMastery I stg bro you are right. everyone in this comment section are a bit slow. People are even stating that saitama can beat goku? smh
Onepunchman easily kills Goku in ONE PUNCH
No debate
Definitely no debate at all don’t know why he even try to sit up here and say it’s a stalemate
@@mattmetawolf8634 100% My only thought is in the impossible case of them being equal, the battle ends as soon as the two realize they both want to protect earth, then probably go off to get some food and goku schedule training spars. Kinda mimicking the after Broly fight scene, provide a bit to show good will, and then ask saitama if he would ever be interested in a spar or training together
Love that Seth the progroomer jab at the end.
3:00 typical bakich character mind set
For Saitama I would have to agree he’s as strong as he needs to be relative to whoever he’s fighting.
King I feel is as strong as others believe him to be, or cosmic luck and hilarity.
Great review~
I like how the conclusion of this video is literally “how strong us saitama?
Yes”
That doesn’t surprise me in the slightest
Saitama went back in time because garou believed in him🙌🏽
Yeah.
Murata apparently stated at one point that the limiter isn't the secret to Saitama's power.
god placed a limiter on every living being in the verse, and saitama was able to remove his limiter on his own. his power isnt because of his limiter (which everyone has) its because of his lack there of
This is all just a timeloop and God is Saitama who is waiting to fight the one person who can give him a fight.... himself.
Crazy how the only creature that has bested saitama was that one mosquito from episode 2 🤣
and a cat scratched his face and made him bleed
Even saitama is a name of a Buddhist Monastery
To make it's more simple about the limitless, It's like a bug in a game where you can keep killing level 1 enemies and still getting experience accordingly, like gaining a few % of exp bar with just killing a level 1 mob while you're currently at level 100. And it stay that way forever. That's why his training though seems too weak to train such power, it works for saitama, and only him can do it.
yep that's why I say that he has Absolute Potential since he copied Garou's ultimate move. The reason why I said that is bc it means "The ability to have unlimited potential and capacity for growth and learning".
This was a really good video. I love it!!!
Over thinking Saitama's abilities is like trying to over explain a joke to someone when it falls flat. One, the creator of One Punch Man, said in interviews that Saitama was created as the ultimate "my dad can beat up your dad" argument ender. He has the literal power to beat anyone with one punch. He is 100% a parody character, a living toon force anime hero. The only time he will lose a fight- like against the mosquito or the cat- is when it is funnier for him to lose. That's all there is to it. It's so simple people overthink it massively, and miss the point of his character.
What if saitama was given the opportunity to take God's power (maybe to be used to fight blast and his group) , but instead of taking it, he punches God. This could also be the reason that God looks so tattered that they also could have made contact after he was smashed into the moon or possibly earlier
He is (Golden age) Superman.
I thought the intro was a commercial for NeuroLink
Plot twist: he is the incarnation of adam
the theory that saitama can do whatever he puts his mind to makes sense, until he tries to beat king in any game they play with a controller
Saitama: I became stronger than God.
*KING:* I can Bullsh*t though anything.
It’s sorta like how the hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets while saitama gets more powerful the stronger his opponents get, he is fated to win basically.
I personally think he got his power from eating an almost rotten banana he got on sale from supermarket.
Honestly, this is his best take. Enough said
watch zhonin. he has an in depth series on “the truth of one punch man” which is on a entirely different level than any one punch man media ive seen
So glad someone of your analytical quality is doing one punch man. I fell off boruto as it disrespects naruto but ops is an obsession to me and not many can do it justice, Thank you
To ascend means you do not die but you are no longer among the livings
One Punch Man Season 3 is coming!!!!!!
While Goku constantly ascends, he rarely wins alone. I feel like that's the real reason Saitama beats most MC but also why I'm just not invested in OPM. Other shoenen there's a lot of wondering who will be there and how they "win"
Love the video and keep up the great work nick
In the panel where they showed the back of Saitamas head looks like the time he saw the back of his head in the miror wich probably is when he broke his limiter.
People always forget about that one as well and this is before he was even fully awakened To what he is now
@@mattmetawolf8634 How do you know he wasent fully awakened? When was he?
@@absolutleynotanalien8096 I think in the bonus chapter it said it was 1 year and a half into Saitama training. you can also guess he wasn't awakened because he still had hair when that happened. You can look it up or find it on youtube
@@slaughter1003 ok.
Whenever Stan Lee was asked "who is stronger than who" questions, his answer was always something like "Simple, if the writer is a big Hulk fan, then Hulk will be stronger, if the writer is a big Thor fan, then Thor will be stronger". I think the same principle applies here.
Yeah that doesn’t work in today’s context too much that can work for some fights where the character has an ambiguous level of power like let’s say the grand priest versus the God hand your guess would be as good as mines on that one but if its characters have been character determined since the beginning like Thor and hulk hulk clearly has the better feats and the better strength. anything Thor hast to throw out at him is pretty much just about what hope would expect here until Thor ultimately admits at some point due to his limits that hulk is clearly the greatest fighter he’s ever had to deal with if not one of the greatest that he’s had a hard time taking down
@@mattmetawolf8634 are you seriously suggesting that Stan Lee didn't understand his own characters?
@@festral7509 are seriously suggesting that I am saying something like that are you just putting words in my mouth and he may have understood them during the concept of when they were created back when they were meant to be equals the times have changed and characters have gotten stronger and given that he is no longer among the living hulk completely out ranks Thor in terms of strength or have you not seen the immortal hulk comic ? because I know Stan didn’t
@@mattmetawolf8634 I was asking a question, I wasn't never putting words in anyone's mouth. over all, If he says the writer gets to choose how can you deny that? Behind all the smoke and mirrors, all the so called feats are just lines on a piece of paper and could be rewritten by a new author at any time regardless of whether or not it makes sense to the plot.
@@festral7509 so literally what you’re saying is it doesn’t matter it’s all fiction as your argument practically because the writer writes him even though the original guy you literally just ripped that from practically has an outdated
thought process on that type of level of writing considering it only works for characters who are probably regarded as newcomers but after a while like with hulk and Thor the powers between the two clearly was set apart due to the canon continuing without said Stan lee and you kind of did put words in my mouth but let’s apply this archaic thought to every character right saying Deku could easily solo the entire black clover universe know it you do realize there is objective truth and canon to these characters that are written write these words on a page as you put it. Do you have some form of objective meaning to the exact fictional cannon that they are immersing said people into
This video is proof that nicks becoming a power scaler.
He still has a lot to learn though
Not everyone is your fav yt Seththepredator
Another thing about your theory with god, is when someone almost dies I think the see god and on a small scale, break their limiters
Saitama can do 100 pushups and situps and a 10 km run for a year and a half but goku does 1 TRILLION SITUPS IN FIVE SECONDS
YOOOO MAKE NICK SEE THIS IN EPISODE 5 OF ONE PUNCH MAN AFTER HIS TEST ONE OF THE GUYS WHO SEES HIS TEST SAY "frankly, its as If there's a God inside of him." HE MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING!!!!
Running 10k for 3 years, man, that's what we need.
The best answer to who would win between saitama and goku is that everyone loses. Theyd keep getting stronger and eventually destroy the universe with the force generated by their fists colliding, killing everyone. Then theyd prolly both survive somehow because plot armor and have to work together to bring the universe back into existence or something. Damn now im thinking that would be a hilarious crossover movie
First in everyithing and saitama got the power from the writers
So lord commander you telling me i been doing the work out faithfully with the knee clicks and all ......is for nothing?🤕
That hisoka shirt is🔥😤
The limiter does not just determine an overall ceiling on power, it's more about restricting the growth itself. Characters with a limiter need to keep pushing themselves to their limits and can only grow so fast. Someone with no limiter, like Saitama, can grow without any restriction whatsoever, there's no limit on the rate of growth.
So while it's true that Saitama has infinite potential, in practice he can still use any level of strength that he wants/needs to. In effect, he might as well have infinite strength.
Honestly I dont believe Saitama Is like Shonnen MCs at all. He's a Shonnen Superman. The creators of superman once said in an interview that superman will always be strong as he needs to be to win. Its how he lifted a book of infinite pages which is literally the heaviest object that could exist. Heres a small list of things superman has done that saitama later does:
1.Punch through dimensions
2.Moves fast enough to punch multiple times simultaneously
3.Manipulated Metaphysical space/Energies
4.Be a symbol of hope in the bleakest of times
I dont believe they are completely the same but their stories are effectively the same. Its not about a mortal trying to be the strongest. but Trying to live a normal life amongst men but understanding their abilities gives others a reason to strive for and hope toward. I mean saitama has inspired genos since the day they met, King gained the courage and hope that saitama will always be there. They Are Symbols of Hope, Inspiration, and Courage that makes others want to do the same.
Absolutely correct considering comics was also an inspiration for one as well another thing he left out not to shit all over his theory but Saitama feels like he’s more built to survive in a comic universe then he is a shonen protagonist as universe these guys are strong and yeah they have limitless potential but they’re not the same level of limitless as Saitama‘s limitless strength and potential since I believe he has the power of freedom in case you don’t know search up wiki super power is the power of freedom it allows you to practically do almost anything you want and it fits into the category of what his power set might actually be
To also expand upon this point freedom allows you to pretty much be as perfect as you want to be or give you a ridiculous weakness such as but not limited to not being able to outright chill an entire mosquito even when your best efforts is to do so basically allowing yourself to get scratched by a cat even though it should have no effect on you Back before he was pretty awake and he was plagued by a bad cavity and once that got knocked out of his mouth it was almost like as if he felt nothing and the pain was going to transformed him into it a further stage in his awakening is it all the time .
Another case in point being able to control totality which allows you to basically go to a certain place in time now it’s a pretty low level of totality that he’s shown right now but the closest we’ve got is being able to enter spiritual planes so long as the door is unlocked for him and he’s always allowed in breaking into a metaphysical space is pretty much something I would regard as troublesome and worrisome especially considering we don’t know what high degree he’s basically capable that then of course being able to appear in one of Garou ‘s portals but until we see more it’s quite possible he can break out or break into spaces he wants to or doesn’t want to be in just by sheer force and will alone now as for anything pretty much higher and all that like almighty laws and will Biden buy them it’s probably going to be revealed at some point that he doesn’t have to abide by any of that given that he didn’t have to abide by natural human limitations and while he is still limited by his mind The moment he lets the restraints off when actually getting serious it probably allows him to really do as much as he wants while still having full control of his serious state
Superman gets bleed thou.
If he could do whatever he sets his mind on, he would have killed that fly in s1
Agree with most of your point, except your theory of Tatsumaki reconsider God's offer. I think she was just using a part of her power, so it's no surprise that Saitama said it's not that different from Fubuki since Tatsumaki definitely didn't go all out at that point
Giant hole in your theory, if he can do anything he believes he can do then he'd be able to beat king in video games.
Another day, another time for me to ask about Berserk and Rurouni Kenshin content.
I always said that he was multiple times stronger than the actual enemy he is confronting but his growth potential is exponential
he did removed his limiter by those workout those includes some factor why his limiter was removed. those workout+ factors= all was needed to removed his limiter.
never reaches strogest form.. immediately thinks *Deku sounds about right*
So he's like every ork from 40k. If itz red it goz fasta. :)
if the human could break themselves limits then the earth could not holding the human beings, and destroyed immediately
I feel like the line graph of their power growing was Garous interpretation of what was going on. He believes himself to be so strong that saitama “had” to be growing during their fight. When in reality, he wasn’t growing at all, and was just better. So the line graph was his justification for why he was still losing.
No, it was the narrator. Garou can't write comic pages and can't break the 4th wall
Exactly I don’t know where people are getting this it’s Garou’s interpretation from if it was his interpretation then it would have been him speaking his interpretation was when he immediately said how can I being with such a limit was power be allowed to run free on earth
Saitama died during training. He refused to use heat in the winter or AC in the summer. This cause significant brain trauma along with his training regime where he broke the bones in his arms and legs. This plus caused extreme trauma and placed him in a coma. As a result he believes everything is happening you see in the show/manga.
There is actually more than one god as both saitama and flash saw it sleeping and before they could see more, the s class hero 1 appeared and took the object that leads to its dimension.
The theory of him thinking of something will be achievable is already false as he can't even kill a mosquito...
Gotham chess is that you?
He did not just try to say that Goku and saitama are exactly the same.
I wonder, why your theory matches mine. I put my theory when the cosmic fear garou vs saitama chapter released. Except the part you said, goku would never lose to saitama in their versus battle.
Saitama having god like strength is godly bunot without its drawback like depressed over his god strength
Saitama probably lost his memory when he battle God in the past.
This is giving hard anti spiral vibes from gurren lagann
Theory. God isn't actually a god at all. Rather than a being with strength so great we would perceive it as God. Strength that was turned against the real God and overthrew them. A God who then somehow reawakened within Saitama. And this self proclaimed 'God' is so interested and hell bent on defeating Saitama in order to finish what he started and claiming the title of God
That.... does have foreshadowing to it in its favour. The exact wording of his physical assessment is key.
I must say, it is really obvious that Saitama is getting all of his power from his bald head, in exchange for his hair he was able to achieve his dream lol 🤣
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All has been explained, there are more than one god. Saitama has been possessed by one of the other gods that has turned on his fellow gods.
Saitama actually trains so yeah he is like the shounen characters.
I hope god is just a person with the balls chin, and so saitama trying to attack that kid (even though he did save him) was the moment he turned away from god 😂
I disagree on one point. If Saitama didn’t have the self doubt and feelings of a human he wouldn’t be a hero anymore. He’d either be an uncaring God or a Monster in my opinion
Forget Saitama vs Goku, Saitama vs Superman is a better question.
True, he DID hold half of a book with infinite pages, which means infinite weight. Though that is one iteration.
Honestly the only anime characters that even stand a chance against Saitama are probably Zeno and end of manga Shinra as Shinra-bansho man. Possibly GER/Tusk Act 4/Soft and Wet: Go Beyond but kinda doubtful