Titanium actually scratches very easily. It is exceptionally strong compared to steel. You get the same strength at 60% the weight. It is also rust and corrosion resistant.
I have a bottle opener that resides on my key fob that's been there since 1984, milled from 6/4 titanium plate, which is in EXACTLY the same condition as when I put it on there 40 years ago.
Actually Titanium has a strange endurance to it, that makes is difficult/ annoying for machining operations. I've seen Titanium Wheel hubs that look like new after a season while aluminium wheel hubs can look pretty beaten up. But Titanium is not a hard metal/alloy so scratching it with a knife will always be rather easy. In the end Steel still makes a lot of sense when it comes to wear or scratches although stainless steel is also softer than temperature treated ferritic steel. But with ferritic steel rust is a problem., so stainless steel can be a good solution. With a product like a dongle dac or music-player case the material thickness needs to be substantial so the surfaces can't get bend or dent by hand in any orientation. So like 1 mm of steel is needed and than you maybe still have some flexing, and that is as heavy a 3 mm of aluminium and 3 mm thick proper aluminium alloy is VERY robust, you can not band a small peace by hand.
@@miagi1337 @miagi1337 The bottle opener itself actually comes from titanium bicycle manufacturing, the frames were made of 3/2.5 titanium tubing with the drop outs made of 6/4 titanium plate.
Ehh, I've been fanboying for the HA-2 since I got it in 2016, but if I look at the measurements now I'm a bit shocked how much distortion it puts out vs. most popular dongles out today. Even the power is no longer an argument as dongles have started pushing 280 or more (clean!) mW into 32 ohms (vs. 220 from the Oppo). And my cheapo ES9281 based HiBy FC3 has shown me the HA-2 doesn't even have the treble extension and supreme detail a top-tier ESS should have. So tbh I'm getting ready to put the HA-2 out to pasture somehow, treat it as a power bank, donate it or something, if my incoming AkLIAM PD4 proves to be better sounding in every way.
Have you heard the RU6? I'm curious to see what the difference is since they each use different methods of converting digital to analog and neither is the usual chip based design.
Apple dongle has the notorius issue of being quiet on android. Easily fixed with a free app so it can get much louder than Z experienced here and is still amazing for the money.
Yeah but dongles are a convenience thing. If it needs an app it isn't convenient. Also does the app make it louder on the whole phone or just that app playing music?
@@ZReviews Whole phone I believe as it does it at a hardware level. There's lot's of different apps that can do it but I've been using USB audio player pro and just leave it on the trial version of it. I think it's been keeping the setting as well so it was a set once and forget about it, so can plug in the dongle and not have to worry about it. Makes the apple dongle still the absolute value king imo.
Lotta competition these days. I'd be surprised if the Apple was cleaner sounding than your average Conexant CX31993 dongle like the JCally JM7 or other versions on Ali.
@@fabianoberlim9636 Well you can't just tell people to stop it with the wanting to save money though. So, fine, if you don't like that the Conexant doesn't do treble very well, go CS43131, there are so many devices built with it now that you will find something at every degree of budget consciousness, and then still have the option of getting into the more expensive Moonrivers and Cayins and whatnot if you win the lottery.
@@TheArpage well I didn't check that, my bad. Anyways, the lighter version of the Fosi DS1 with 30mW more power in balanced out, the Fosi DS2 (but with 108db SNR instead of 120db), or something more quality assuring, Moondrop DAWN Pro. For dongle, I can't find the specs of the Ikkolot Magic Arc that Z used in this video but the Meizu Mblu Lifeme does 60mW@32 and 7.4mW@600. Not sure if that's powerful for a dongle but it's an option.
My new fav now the muse hifi m3 mk2!I own the m15 and btr7 and i think the m3 mk2 sound suit for me the best with different iems and headphones! How not involved here the original muse m3 what you praised so much?
Huge review Zeos, I like when you make long review video, the Fossi is amazing but you didn’t talk about the sound quality of it, keep up the sheeeet ! ❤
Hey Z, I have the Moondrop Moonriver (the discontinued one) and when u press both of the volume buttons down at the same time, it changes the gain. It's red for low gain, and yellow for high gain. Maybe it's the same thing, only with a white LED on the Moonriver 2 Ti?
Hi thx for your reviews... I am narrowed down to Truthear shio , Muse M3 and fosi Ds1.... could u help me decide the best out of these .... Your help is much appreciated
get the centrance ampersand and mount the moonriver2TI on the top with velcro ... 4.4mm cable from the moonriver2TI into the 4.4mm balanced of the ampersand and you got more power than you could want... yes... even the Susvara will sing its magic... and so will the Tungsten... and you get XLR balanced too...
Just wondering why using foobar instead of special player like neutron/hiby with exclusive usb access, which is work directly dac's hardware and software
How can 300 mw drive headphones like the hd600 and the aragon? It’s a real question, there’s something I don’t understand. My zendac v2 who has 220 mw I think in single ended is able to drive as much as my topping dx3 pro+ who can deliver up to 3 watts, I was really surprised when I compared the two, only the last 20% of the volume knob make the difference. (Using dt1990 pro who have 250 ohms, and hifiman edition xs.)
would this work with the shp9500's as the budget dac you told us about(cheap gaming) isn't loud enough for me and I'm using a steel series v2 dac i have around issues with static and movement with it but OK for now
How do you rate the sound quality of the Moonriver2Ti vs ddHifi TC44B? I have my laptop hooked up from TC44B to JBL LSR301 on my work desk. Love the simplicity and the sound I get from this setup.
@@ZE0SPantera What do you think of this setup? Would switching the ddHifi out for the SMSL SU-1 improve anything? The hype is so real and I honestly dont know if I am an audiophile or just a gear nut. Thanks man!
@Z reviews... Which dongles is the best for driving and for getting the best sonic performance out of sennheiser hd 600? Is it the Moondrop River 2Ti or Questyle M15?
34:20 2 different Filters and for each filter a low latency one. Also dont hear a difference tho. The app explains what the Filters do, but in Chinese xD
Z, I have the Balance Mod with Dekoni Fenes. pads and nice balanced cable [aka the Zeos Mod] on my TYGR's. Would I truly benefit from purchasing the Aeolus? Your response will halt or inspire, going forward toward the ZMF. Best, D.
The ''Icolot'' is a trash manufactures by someone else, a supplier as no brand and sold on second hand stores as trash they are, for 4.99 moneys. You got a working one, You are extremely lucky, half the time they won't even give 2 channels, let alone volume. Avoid like the plague.
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Titanium actually scratches very easily. It is exceptionally strong compared to steel. You get the same strength at 60% the weight. It is also rust and corrosion resistant.
OK next one needs to be Gundanium.
@ZReviews I didn't hear in the vid any thoughts of how effective the isolator was at removing noise. Imperceptible?
I have a bottle opener that resides on my key fob that's been there since 1984, milled from 6/4 titanium plate, which is in EXACTLY the same condition as when I put it on there 40 years ago.
Actually Titanium has a strange endurance to it, that makes is difficult/ annoying for machining operations. I've seen Titanium Wheel hubs that look like new after a season while aluminium wheel hubs can look pretty beaten up. But Titanium is not a hard metal/alloy so scratching it with a knife will always be rather easy.
In the end Steel still makes a lot of sense when it comes to wear or scratches although stainless steel is also softer than temperature treated ferritic steel. But with ferritic steel rust is a problem., so stainless steel can be a good solution.
With a product like a dongle dac or music-player case the material thickness needs to be substantial so the surfaces can't get bend or dent by hand in any orientation. So like 1 mm of steel is needed and than you maybe still have some flexing, and that is as heavy a 3 mm of aluminium and 3 mm thick proper aluminium alloy is VERY robust, you can not band a small peace by hand.
@@miagi1337
@miagi1337 The bottle opener itself actually comes from titanium bicycle manufacturing, the frames were made of 3/2.5 titanium tubing with the drop outs made of 6/4 titanium plate.
With the Fosi, if you long-press both + & - volume buttons, it changes between High & Low Impedance to match the device used.
Actually it's second thing that works perfectly that I bought by your reviews and now I trust in your opinion. Topping HS02 👌 and Oppo HA-2SE 👏
Ehh, I've been fanboying for the HA-2 since I got it in 2016, but if I look at the measurements now I'm a bit shocked how much distortion it puts out vs. most popular dongles out today. Even the power is no longer an argument as dongles have started pushing 280 or more (clean!) mW into 32 ohms (vs. 220 from the Oppo). And my cheapo ES9281 based HiBy FC3 has shown me the HA-2 doesn't even have the treble extension and supreme detail a top-tier ESS should have. So tbh I'm getting ready to put the HA-2 out to pasture somehow, treat it as a power bank, donate it or something, if my incoming AkLIAM PD4 proves to be better sounding in every way.
i bought the DS1 as my first dongle dac and have not found anything that beats it for value.
You should plug them all in to eachother and make a train, lol
btw, holding both buttons together changes between high and low gain, in the non titanium version of the moonriver the light is only based on that
lol
I died when you said
“We’re going on a journey” hahaha 😂
34:44 "is that mitty" is WAY too funny bro GHAJHAAHA
16:13 LeL ! That moment as the finger touches DOOOOM!
Zeos is seriously trying to ponder the validity of having $1,000 cable? He has joined to the dark side.
Snake oil $$$
It do make me FEEL special. Which is what audiophiles want.
@@ZE0SPanterahey z is the btr7 more powerful than an these dongles?
Nice to see the Z hd600 out again.... And when are you going to review the Cayin RU7?
Not for me... I have it already... It sounds sooooo good.
Have you heard the RU6? I'm curious to see what the difference is since they each use different methods of converting digital to analog and neither is the usual chip based design.
The Ikkolot is identical to one sold by Anker. I've got the Anker and really like it. I wouldn't be surprised if they're from the same factory.
Apple dongle has the notorius issue of being quiet on android. Easily fixed with a free app so it can get much louder than Z experienced here and is still amazing for the money.
Yeah but dongles are a convenience thing. If it needs an app it isn't convenient. Also does the app make it louder on the whole phone or just that app playing music?
@@ZReviews Whole phone I believe as it does it at a hardware level. There's lot's of different apps that can do it but I've been using USB audio player pro and just leave it on the trial version of it. I think it's been keeping the setting as well so it was a set once and forget about it, so can plug in the dongle and not have to worry about it. Makes the apple dongle still the absolute value king imo.
Lotta competition these days. I'd be surprised if the Apple was cleaner sounding than your average Conexant CX31993 dongle like the JCally JM7 or other versions on Ali.
Stop with the apple dongo and cx31993. They don’t give you the whole sound. Buy a real dac.
Z is giving you an amazing tip
@@fabianoberlim9636 Well you can't just tell people to stop it with the wanting to save money though. So, fine, if you don't like that the Conexant doesn't do treble very well, go CS43131, there are so many devices built with it now that you will find something at every degree of budget consciousness, and then still have the option of getting into the more expensive Moonrivers and Cayins and whatnot if you win the lottery.
I've used a dac for use in Mt car. Makes the stock stereo sound amazing
Z , you came at just the right time with this video! I needed a USB-C amp for my iPhone.
Jcally JM80E. I haven't tried it but it's coming.
@@Qimchiy 45mW @ 32 Ohm ?? My Apple dongle drives harder than that.
@@TheArpage well I didn't check that, my bad. Anyways, the lighter version of the Fosi DS1 with 30mW more power in balanced out, the Fosi DS2 (but with 108db SNR instead of 120db), or something more quality assuring, Moondrop DAWN Pro.
For dongle, I can't find the specs of the Ikkolot Magic Arc that Z used in this video but the Meizu Mblu Lifeme does 60mW@32 and 7.4mW@600. Not sure if that's powerful for a dongle but it's an option.
@@Qimchiy Those are options yes but hardly enough to drive my Aeon 2 Closed 🙈 That Fosi in his video should do the trick though!
There is a part 2 coming out next week
My new fav now the muse hifi m3 mk2!I own the m15 and btr7 and i think the m3 mk2 sound suit for me the best with different iems and headphones!
How not involved here the original muse m3 what you praised so much?
I just found out about it. I asked for one. Hopefully it ships
Huge review Zeos, I like when you make long review video, the Fossi is amazing but you didn’t talk about the sound quality of it, keep up the sheeeet ! ❤
If I don't say anything negative assume it is well above the curve of average. I DO praise the new M3 dongle in the next round up.
Love my Moonriver 2 Ti.
Would you buy it again? I'm giving it serious consideration.
Fun fact - Fosi DS1 fits perfectly into Fiio BTR3K clip. Thank you Fiio and Fosi :)
Hey Z, I have the Moondrop Moonriver (the discontinued one) and when u press both of the volume buttons down at the same time, it changes the gain. It's red for low gain, and yellow for high gain. Maybe it's the same thing, only with a white LED on the Moonriver 2 Ti?
I t4hought so but there is no volume change. Maybe it is an impedance change or something not immediately audible.
Z, I have been stressing out, over powering a new DAC that has a micro USB port. The ifi power 5V has a micro adapter.(sh1t). Best, D.
Is the ifi defender any good? You gave us like no info on that thing. Does it do what it's supposed to do?
My II Ti is finally supposed to arrive this Sunday. Do I need a balanced cable for my Katos?
SUP Z, put the word cable at the end of IKKO LOT and it will show up as IKKO LOT USB C to 3.5mm = $9.90 and amazon
ibasso dc04 pro is worth a review
Hi thx for your reviews... I am narrowed down to Truthear shio , Muse M3 and fosi Ds1.... could u help me decide the best out of these .... Your help is much appreciated
get the centrance ampersand and mount the moonriver2TI on the top with velcro ... 4.4mm cable from the moonriver2TI into the 4.4mm balanced of the ampersand and you got more power than you could want... yes... even the Susvara will sing its magic... and so will the Tungsten... and you get XLR balanced too...
lol every time he tries to pull a cable out of a port in most videos he struggles lmao its so funny
v shaped iem's that have treble energy need that volume control on the dongles. oh10's get too loud too quickly on the phone without eq
Z, Can I use HS02 for clean power only? Best, D.
Z pretty much sold me on the Fosi reactions alone
now this is peak zeos content.
No ifi bar? With 3d and xbass? Duuuude
Does Fosi DS1 have the correct power for the Beyerdynamic DT 880 600ohm?
Yo Zeos, I have a set of 60's Koss ESP.6A electrostats in excellent condition; would you like to test them out?
Just wondering why using foobar instead of special player like neutron/hiby with exclusive usb access, which is work directly dac's hardware and software
The Fosi DS2 while its has a lower SNR of 108db vs the 120db in the DS1, it has an extra 30mW in the balanced output vs the 220mW in the DS1.
yeah i got the DS2 and i really like it. Fosi is doing some good stuff.
How can 300 mw drive headphones like the hd600 and the aragon? It’s a real question, there’s something I don’t understand. My zendac v2 who has 220 mw I think in single ended is able to drive as much as my topping dx3 pro+ who can deliver up to 3 watts, I was really surprised when I compared the two, only the last 20% of the volume knob make the difference. (Using dt1990 pro who have 250 ohms, and hifiman edition xs.)
3000mW into 32ohm, not in 150 ohm
Usually how it goes: higher power, higher THD+N (dirtier signal). Actual improvements with diminished trade-off are few and far between.
@@lukepham6281 why do you bring that 150 ohms? All numbers I gave are for 32 ohms 💁
Hey Z please review the xduoo link2 bal maxxxxx best clean dongle dac period.
whats the difference btw fosi ds1 and the ds2? couldnt really find answer in the internet
I have the same question but I can’t find any good review of both them
2 products in this video: Gopro, Square Neck A Line Dress by Moon River $99
:( sometimes feels bad or scared using dac portable dongles model dont have battery make phone battery draining
would this work with the shp9500's as the budget dac you told us about(cheap gaming) isn't loud enough for me and I'm using a steel series v2 dac i have around issues with static and movement with it but OK for now
What would happen if you place another Topping HS02/P50 between the dac and the headphone/Iem?
How do you rate the sound quality of the Moonriver2Ti vs ddHifi TC44B? I have my laptop hooked up from TC44B to JBL LSR301 on my work desk.
Love the simplicity and the sound I get from this setup.
I am sure there is a SLIGHT difference but if you are happy. STAY THERE. Don't get caught in the loop
@@ZE0SPantera What do you think of this setup? Would switching the ddHifi out for the SMSL SU-1 improve anything? The hype is so real and I honestly dont know if I am an audiophile or just a gear nut.
Thanks man!
@Z reviews... Which dongles is the best for driving and for getting the best sonic performance out of sennheiser hd 600?
Is it the Moondrop River 2Ti or
Questyle M15?
The M15 is warmer sounding with more bottom end which lends itself much nicer to the HD600's which also sound great from valve amps.
@@RamSarup thanks a lot 😇👍🏻
Can you try the "Sonata BHD Pro" its really high ranked Dac/amp?
how does it compare with this KZ AM01
Is there a way to ask questions without going through telegram?
asking about the fosi into gaming pc setup
34:20 2 different Filters and for each filter a low latency one. Also dont hear a difference tho. The app explains what the Filters do, but in Chinese xD
Newer samsung galaxy s series dongle output is strongest ive herd.
If you're 16i nchs why do you need to lie about being 20.
Yayy, more dongles…… 😪
I didn't realize it was a Z review I saw the thumbnail and my first reaction was DAMN IT Elon not the titties can we have one thing not cyberpunk
mouse pad no longer on amazon we needs tiddie mouse pad
Z, I have the Balance Mod with Dekoni Fenes. pads and nice balanced cable [aka the Zeos Mod] on my TYGR's. Would I truly benefit from purchasing the Aeolus? Your response will halt or inspire, going forward toward the ZMF. Best, D.
a gen of swearing fools
The ''Icolot'' is a trash manufactures by someone else, a supplier as no brand and sold on second hand stores as trash they are, for 4.99 moneys. You got a working one, You are extremely lucky, half the time they won't even give 2 channels, let alone volume. Avoid like the plague.