The anti-rarity crowd is going a little too far (back)! & Subathon ending - PoE2 #28
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Hello youtube comments, I still read all of you. 95%+ of you are very nice and I really appreciate that, I know you can't please everyone tho. Just make sure you're commenting on a relevant video at least :D
Thanks for watching!
Still GGGs fault for making the game so unbalanced you need more mods on gear like chaos res and defense mods on high tier items. Yet despite needing way more for the bare minimum to survive white mobs auto attacking you, the crafting and drop rate was turned from poe1 to poe1 ruthless mode.
@@NicholasDarling noob
@@oo18andy i've been playing since betrayal i got like over 6k hours. Now GGG said the op stuff isn't allowed and will be nerfed and wants everyone to go slow. So got it, i rerolled a couple times and eventually made a molten blast str stacking char, despite the fact i have 95% of my tree as defensive nodes 75% block 87% max res tree i get 1shot by random white mobs in t13 maps. So i quit because i did exactly what GGG wanted, a slow tanky character and it very obviously failed horribly because the games insanely unbalanced. Any minor upgrade to somewhat better shit gear costed over a divine and i never got a single piece of gear to drop or use exalts/chaos on that worked.
@@NicholasDarling noob
@@spritely2158 Doesn't work like that, i clear as day backed up what i said with experience. What's your experience to counter each of my points i made?
The mob stuck in the wall clip might be the funniest segment I've ever seen in PoE. Unintentional dumbass wall propaganda joke included.
leave it to Empyrian to get a mob out of a wall with another wall
Empy built a wall and that mob paid for it
Orb of Storm can btw hit those :D
3:40 I think the problem with this is that some builds need more different stats on gear, so getting rarity isn't quite equal for all builds. This leads people to play the builds which can more easily stack the rarity, reducing build diversity.
I've been watching your videos since the Harbinger League and they always bring me joy. It never occurred to me to copy or necessarily achieve what I saw. It has more of an inspirational part about where the journey can go. Also, unfortunately, many people don't understand how much effort, preparation, trading, etc. goes into your group-play. Wish you the best for 2025. GGs
Thank you for the kind words! I hope you have a great year too.
This is a man that struggles with his conscience. Notice his passion, his dismay, his soul aches, because one noob doesn't have any rarity gear. I can hear him screaming now, "Life is not fair."
My dad is actively putting on terrible gear and not putting resists on in the name of pursuing rarity stat.
@@soulstealer5625 what a chad
@@soulstealer5625 tell him that it's not worth it to get more than 100% rarity
@@cshepard09 same guy who runs leer mask on his poison ranger cause orange item must be good
@@soulstealer5625the goat
IM SO MAD I DROPPED 2 DIVINES IN A ROW BUT DIED TO AN ON DEATH EFFECT AND COULDNT GET THEM
Thank God
Nooo thats so unfortunet, happend me today but with 1Div. Super wierd death, had full shield+mana(hp) 3kES and 3k mana(life). No mobs around and i opened inventory and youst died from full HP to 0 in a sec.
Before i got 3Divs so im happy atleast, changed the atlas tree before they droped so rare enemys can have +2effects and maps gave them +1 the Divs droped from a rare with 6 abilities so i think this is the way to go for Divs, got 100IIR
you dreamed it
@@Gumpinn I can feel your pain bro thats so sad that they give only 1 chance for your maps
@@Gumpinn how do maps give them +1?
Sorry Empy, I gotta call you out on this one. If a stat is mandatory for me to be able to clear more maps and drop more loot I have to take it. Then take into account that it also takes up a valuable slot on most pieces of gear and the entire game becomes unbalanced and unplayable. Lightning Resistance needs to be removed ASAP.
Damn, you got me
No u dont. U Just think u need becaise every body uses. And YOU feels bad that u dont drop item.
@@rafaelnogueira4216did you even finish reading lol
@@Kiyobboy holyy moly hauahahahahahahaaahashaauaauaya
Lmao nice!
We will build the ice wall, and the rares will pay for it all
Hello empy. The first time i saw videos of you i were quite jealous and thought, why should i keep playing this, this is unfair, but i kept watching your vids. Im a new exile, my build ideas kept beeing bad, some even dont work at all and i thought myself, shit game, dont want to copy a buildguide, especially if its just not as good as your groups play. It took me a day or two, but i realised that your success in poe2 is just your experience and know how of poe. Im not a frequent viewer, i watch every few days a video, but thanks to you i changed my goal for playing videogames. Now i just play, test and change things for myself and if im bad, who cares. I stopped the jealousy. I had this problem in other games too, i played elden ring mostly for the pvp, bragged off my successes in the whole dark souls series and have a history in the toxic realms of LoL 12 years ago.
I changed my opinion not because of something you said, it was the hate i kept reading in comments about you which let me realise how childish my thoughts were. Now i can start to just enjoy gaming again, stoked for my future with poe2.
Same boat here, i refused to copy a build and tryed into oblivion to make mine work. The problem with my build was that it cant clear fast enough for breaches and many other activities which totaly sucked.
Yesterday i was ready to stop playing but wanted to try this damn spark build and see if anything would change. Now i can finaly enjoy the game, it wasent that bad since i now have switched alot of passives for my gear and playstyle, the feeling i tryed to avoid never erupted and im having a blast.
Sounds awesome dude thank you
Actual growth, respect.
I’m still watching purely because of your positive, radiant attitude. I skip some of the tips and tricks videos these days but I could honestly care less about what game you’re playing. Seeing you with or without your friends having fun is always a breath of fresh air. Happy new year and cheers to a great 2025 for you!
Even if I'm not playing Poe right now, I always like watching your clips.
Does he not know this is a bot comment?
@@enki5446 I hope he does x.x
almost 2k hours in poe 1 didnt know you can turn off shrine effects Lmao hahahaha
have even more hours and just now i find out, feel dumb
bro get a life hahaa
damn i fouond u from that ha 5:55 and did think its poe2 for a sec because we just figured out how to do that in poe2 (well almost not that many divs but 2-3 in map 0_0) but realised shortly since below it says poe and at top it looks diff but orbs sure thought filter for a sec, anyway u a good ytber learnt a lot gonna sub up and share u to friends now
POE made a lot more sense once I realized that some people really couldn't give a shit about gameplay and just want to min/max the absolute fuck out of their character.
PoE is a series of paradigm shifts over weeks, months, and years as you slowly understand the sauce. Unfortunately, the most vocal in the community are trolls and new players without much frame of reference. Because things don't immediately click, they want to yap anywhere they can about things that are completely solvable.
Some feral people have a serious problem with someone having more stuff than them
Bunch of fomo d4 fans that would never get the same loot even if they removed mf but still cry
ur probs not even playing this game from your comment. its all about the grind bucko
im someone whos in the endgame had thousands of exaltes dozens of divs and it 100% needs to be removed its worse then it was in poe 1 by far second not many builds can run it because they have to remove all there survivability or damage and third it puts the economy in a bad place in general its the exact opposite of what GGG said they wanted for poe 2
@@brandondean9040 it is one mod on items...that neither removes your survivability nor your damage..you just need better gear
@@getoutofmylobby4347 you're missing the entire point its not just that its one mod which when you are starting maps can be huge but its finding the perfect gear example for warrior a ring with have 4 different resistances you need on rings lightning/fire/cold/chaos then you need things like str/dex which can take alot from a build especially if you need the 636 str required for giants blood in a non ideal situation you have to remove 1 of those stats for rarity because of how much it effect currency
The whole point of poe is getting good and learning more, building your character to the limit, I’m new to this game and honestly seeing a build that’s 11 mirrors or more, it just inspires me and makes me excited to play the game more
Chad mindset, happy grinding gamer
Yeah abuse spark and abuse rarity of items
@@chrisortiz432 like the devs intended
LOL the Fire Strom clip - "Sounds COOL" ... "Guys...Firestorm is NOT it." This was my exact reaction when I tried that skill.
I gotta say, out of all the creators for POE/POE 2 , i love watchin your shiet more than the rest! Lol, i reckon its some kinda twisted thing goin on knowing im NEVER gonna see loot fall anywhere near that, but i can still appreciate watching it! Keep it goin dude!!!
You're a good dude Empy, never let that change! Happy new year!
What if the comment rage goblins are the true pinnacle boss of poe2
I'm so hyped for the first meme museum of poe2. Pretty sure you would show a lot of cursed items =D
I remember seeing that short being like WTF then took 2seconds to see it was an old clip and was like oh makes sense nvm. People don’t even have the attention span of shorts now a days
Its always a pleasure to watch your clips, even if im not playing poe atm.
funny how the first guys name is translated "im gonna rage soon lol"
I'm glad to see people are enthusiastic and really look forward to what GGG will accomplish with PoE2.
No doubt there are many true sentiments in regards to IR, crafting complexity and so forth.
Help the game by contributing constructive feedback.
Look forward to what content you'll provide Empy!
Stay sane exiles
I appreciate the dedication and understand that it takes 8 people to run a 6 man party after being part of one myself. Fun content as always. GG Noobs
BRUH YOU CAN TURN SHRINE BUFFS OFF? lmao thank you! Last time I clicked that one I just sat there till it expired xD
Hello, I am Korean. Your sanity is 200. What skills do you use? Spooky + Archmage + Casting assistance when electrocuted? I'm so curious!
Build link in the description!
The literal translations are not quite right but they get the point across. The only one I’m not sure about is “spooky?”
@@ethanlarge3572 sorry....
@@ethanlarge3572my guess is spark
@@ethanlarge3572 grim (feast)
when i start playing and do not know which build to create, i first watch empyrian build to see what i would not play
i love how i get a diablo 4 dlc ad everytime i watch a poe2 video
Well rarity on items really needs to go and be replaced by rarity on waystones/maps
yep, where have we seen this... more map mods, harder map, more loot.. ohh like T17 in PoE1?
@@_unknown_guyu know what else was in poe 1and rightfully got deleted? Magic find
@@soulstealer5625but it isn't lol. Quantity was deleted, but rarity is here. Which is a nice decision.
is this not going to just brick every item in the game and make people stop playing tho? i know i personally would just quit if my end game gear set got its stats just removed from the game
huh? rarity is literally on items in poe 1 right now, wtf u on?@@soulstealer5625
Its good big groups like this find broken stuff intended or not best to adjust or fix before full release when a larger player base come into game when its freeeeee... keep up the good work
love all ur contents and ive been watching u for a long time. thanks empy!
Other stats have caps. So Rarity should have a cap too. Maybe 100% is fine.
Only defensive stats have caps. Rarity is not a defensive stat.
@@Empyriangaming it's defense against being poor 😂
@AximVidya he ignores you 😂 you simping over this guy and he acts like you aren't there 😂😂
Some people will always complain about some crazy build, lol. In their minds, it doesn't matter, if you invest in it like 2-3 mirrors.
It should be on the same level as their "3 scroll fragment price build" tech. Or it is broken.
spark is pretty broken and 1 of maybe two builds that can handle high rarity, its literally the build that breaks what ggg wanted poe2 too be lol
@@Bobby-k2q Rarity is not even that insane. As long as you have between 50-100% there is virtually no difference to having 200-400%. I have tested both for a long period of time and there might be a slight difference if any difference at all. You just need 50-100% and juice your maps. The 600% rarity is a meme.
@@Bobby-k2qits broken because he spend min 200 divs lol.
@@Mas-ij3ti still can't get behind the idea that having a gimmick stat on at least 4 affixes on your gear gives you noticably more loot than increasing the difficulty of the content by juicing. Not that dramatic about it, I use rarity gear as well, but intentionally worsening your character power for loot felt off even back in PoE. The current state of rarity in PoE2 is merely an outlier to that, they can fix that.
@ Well I could say the same about resistances. I should not have to make my character do less damage blah blah. You can get rarity on 2 items as suffix or prefix, 2 affixes and you are fine. It hardly makes your character weaker.
I understand what lucky damage is, but how can we calculate it into our dps numbers?
+~30% on lightning if you have the 15% more max lightning dmg node
Here is an idea guys. If you dont like strong popular builds, go pick bloodmage, and click that node that says "chaos inocculation" Now you have a unique build that no one else have.
Love your vids bro, thank you. Only poe video's I check
Thank you!
my hideout is showing like on the other side of the world map thing, i cant get to it with waypoints, every time i try to get to that side it just keeps going back and i cant get to the other side... literally cant get to the hideout waypoint map.. am i missing something
How do you have lighting rod passive without travelling over there I’m so confused lol
You annoint it onto a necklace
@ thanks what’s annoint
@@harrisonjones6171 you can put any passive notable on the tree on your amulet by buying the Delirium exclusive items called distilled emotions (I think that's their names). Combining three of them will ''annoint'' your amulet with a passive point from your tree. What passive you annoint specificly is determined by which ''emotion'' and in what combination you put them in. You should be able to see on your skill tree what the combinations are for any given passive point if you look at them and push ALT on your keyboard, I believe
@@harrisonjones6171 You use distilled emotions to equip it on a necklace. Just google it. Its kinda expensive also if you aren't running deep deleriums yourself.
@@harrisonjones6171 you can anoint your amulets using delirium currencies (AKA distilled emotions). you fuse 3 various distilled emotions on your amulet to give yourself any particular passive on the tree. you can check the combination for each passive by going to the tree and holding alt on the passive node you want.
There is just one thing to do now. We must investigate the mythical rarity cap.
So does rarity improve the possible prefix/suffix tiers on dropped gear ? I’ve gotten a few doc’s already but I want to find good gear to craft on . Is there a specific area I should farm ? Or should I keep trying in map’s?😊
no, rarity only affects the amount of rare gear, currency and co. you dropped. It has no influence on the specific mods of any given items
LOL. I saw that short show up in my feed the other day, and I immediately knew it was from Affliction. I did check the comments and date JUST TO BE SURE, but damn some people are just dumb. Rant and rave without any knowledge of what they are actually talking about.
sorceress or witch which is better with Temporalis?
Im new to poe in general but how do you have 1 point in lightning rod without having to fill in the rest of the tree leading up to it?
You inspect the passive mode on PC it's alt then it tells you what distilled emotions you need then you right click on the emotion should then pop up a interface to add the emotions for annoiting. You can only annoit an amulet.
Szia Uram, ha tervezel Meme museum ot poe 2 re ,találtam egy prototipus item et, a trade en nem található ha érdekel.
I love Eldritch ichors and embers in POE 2, My Hunter influenced Crossbow hit some sick DOT mods!!! x)
Nice!
I dont have much rarity, but going from 0 to 60%, I still see no divine orbs dropping for me in last ~30 hours of mapping lol. Is that unlucky or normal?
no matter what happens, you can always count on there being dense people in youtube comments
Keep doing what you're doing bro. We need more people like you for POE science.
Thanks, will do!
POE science
what jewel did you use to allocate that second lightning mastery away from your tree? i knew of them in poe1 but i cant remember any of the names.
jewel ? this passive is on the amulet through dyes from delirium
@@CelphTitled7 nice. but yea there are certain jewels that allows you to allocate without being connected to your tree as long as its within whatever set radius.
@@ykmtheoriginal6828 There is no Impossible Escape equivalent yet, however there is Intuitive Leap -> From Nothing Diamond, Thread of Hope -> Controlled Metamorphosis Diamond
this guy magic find is so good he can get div cards, he must be stop
Empy, my finger hurt 😢 is safe to use xmouse same as poe 1 for mw wheel up down
Yep. As long as you don’t have an unlockable scrollwheel that can autospin without your constant input.
@Empyriangaming ty mate
I remember how you were getting this kind of comments many years back, way before you started this insane value group content. I guess people will never learn that streamers get more currency because they play video game more.
That is not the case. Trust me the example is Ziz played more than him but Ziz's currency is 1/10 his currency because Ziz never started playing solo after farming 3 mirrors in group sessions first.
Just keep in mind that you'll never get close to what this guy is showing you, and you'll be better :))
Hahah these guys never left comment section for this kind of time to shine hahaha
Please english
I have this video going while your stream is also open and it's making things hard to hear so I assume you are attacking me personally and I will make a really long comment one of these days showing you what for.
jk love you and thanks for all the top tier content. Happy New Year everyone.
used this skilltree for my arc sorc works awesome :D 86k dps arc with 0,2 sec cast time
So... everyone that used rarity, now wants to cut the ladder out from under everyone else...
I don’t. I like rarity.
Is there any solid data showing that increasing rarity on gear way above 100% is actually worth it? Maybe good clear speed in breaches is more important?
Well there is more nuance to it. Having the right atlas tree setup for increasing map modifiers, using tablets for increased rarity/quantity, and rolling maps for rarity/quantity is just as important. This can easily add 150-300% rarity/50-100% quantity to a map, which is going to have more impact than just adding 100% rarity to your gear setup.
there is a youtuber called Slipperjim8, he has a video showing his data from 1000 rare monsters, i'd go and watch. tldr, you dont need any rarity on gear. there is also another vid but i cant find it in my history, basically confirms the same thing but then he breaks down the importance of a build. basically players that are full clearing a breach vs players that lose there breach after 10s are killing so many more monsters that any rarity on gear is completely irrelevant.
from what i've seen from the data, rarity is pointless. it seems like alot of things all happened at once and the loot people were getting was probably a direct result of their power increasing and they just attributed it to rarity.
@@officialdabaws5228 yeah, that's the video I saw, good arguments there.
@@adrianimfeld8360 tbh all data i've seen that isnt just a google doc posted on reddit (probably entirely made up) all says rarity really isnt very significant. results could all be swayed by good and bad rng, thats how little of an effect it has.
How’s does he do that at 2:53 to slam multiple stuff at once? What do you press
hold down shift after right clicking any orb and you can press any item that needs that orb
do what he said, but also rebind mousewheel up+down to left click, using xmouse button control. this is ALLOWED.
Excellent content as always!
yo did bro sleep on stream?? I watch all the vids on YT, but almost never come to twitch, pls explain
i was today years old when i learned you can REMOVE SHRINE BUFFS!!!!
That last comment right at the end is hilarious 😂😂
Alot of people seem to forget this is EA , even myself sometimes . ya did good Exile
Comparison is the poison for the joy
sincerely - someone who gets less than 50divs/ex per league after a month or two... the process of aquiring them was fun. For boring grind there's something called "job".
'Comparison is the thief of joy'
while true, adversity is the mother of invention.
And comparing notes with others, allows you to both discover adversity of problems and solutions
Maybe rarity should have a maximum, like the 75% resistances. I think the major problem comes from the fact that some builds/items can abuse it too easily by having too little consequence on the power/speed of their build . We're going to have a patch soon , hopefully they're not going to destroy rarity . Let's wait and see ^^
@@LinleysMeng bruh rarity is mostly a suffix, now tell me what the F suffixes u use. U can get 150% rarity at the cost of LITERALLY NOTHING in terms of defence and offence. Ur 150% rarity + 150% from the map itself and boom u get currency. Moreover rarity scale less and less the more u get it.
Adding a cap would just insentivise people to hit cap anyway, maybe a harsher curve on it would somewhat equalize people's drops without giving Fomo to more casual/normal players.
Rarity isn't a big issue to be honest, as long as it doesn't cost a ton to get running, it's ok, then if people need to invest 300 div to 2 mirrors to optimise it to its max and get 10/15% more loot, well I'm ok with it. Right now it's pretty easy to get some rarity in your gear.
@@gioppi6908 I don't understand what you're trying to tell me knowing that we seem to agree on the same point xd
@@Redrider008 I agree with you I don't think rarity is a big problem in itself, I just think that currently it's amplified by the fact that builds that clean map in 2min can easily afford to have a shit of rarity on top of it. That's why maybe a maximum (I'm getting numbers out of my ass) like 30% can be a compromise, everyone can have it like the resistances and it's not game changer even if it's a good bonus to have
@@LinleysMeng Unlike resistances, there are harsher diminishing returns on rarity the more you have. This has been tested thoroughly. What people who complain rarity (most of them) don't understand is that the juice comes from the maps/tablets/towers/etc. The more you juice, the more you get. The more rarity you have, the more chance of higher tier items will drop, but you don't see people dropping stacks of divines in maps. There's a very good video out (not sure if I can link it here) that was done on blank white T15 maps with different % of rarity. Conclusion was the more you had on your gear, the less you got. So, rarity is NOT the problem. It's fine.
"I Don't need Bidens America, I need to build walls" lold
id like to think im contributing to not bad youtube comments ._.
thanks :D
Me over here literally getting 3 divines in campaign on the first couple days with no rarity and then never again since...
I don't like rarity and I think it should be removed from gear, but hating on someone for using intended game mechanics is taking it way too far. It's just pixels in a video game guys...
did any of those zenials play diablo 2? ..lol magic find was always part of this genre
That affliction clip with the comments is hilarious, classic whining lmao
Man I enjoy your videos I’m brand new to poe2 and the channel tho . Thanks for the content .
Thanks!
I did not know you can remove shrine buffs that way.
Rarity more heavily influenced by map suffix mods like waystone % and significantly reduced on gear would be a healthier eco system IMO. Harder the map should obviously give more stuff.
I know you can spec your atlas to basically do that, but i think it is so fundamental that it should be baked in from the start.
So like more like in PoE1...
But by making your gear worse you are making your map harder in a sense. Obviously when u get to Empy level of investment this is a non issue as u can afford near BiS gear with rarity which then lets u do dumb stuff, but this is only top 0.1% of players. Im running T15s with like 160% rarity and i feel like im getting enough loot to create the feeling of making progress with each map. I die like once every 7-8 maps so there is still a lot to grind for in terms of bettering my build but i think it is a fair tradeoff for my rarity.
What s the point tho you can get 200+ rarity with 10/20 div build which is literally low/mid game. People are just mentally challeged and just want everything instantly without GRINDING. at this point just play D4. Poe is exponential, and its a good ARPG because of that.
cry more kid...
@@bavnqr3134 your not making your gear worse by running rarity ffs.......... you can stack rarity so high that running t6-t9 maps will offer better drops than someone running no rarity + t11+ maps. rarity is multiplicative to waystone rarity so by doing the easier maps and having high rarity modifiers you can literally get better loot drops on easier content.
It shouldnt exist as a stat on gear, your flat out promoting people to run easier content and dump into rarity which defeats the point of running harder content WHICH should inherently drop better loot.
He is hilarious 😂 I always just see clips . Imma try to join a stream
Ngl, we abused that bug pretty hard. RIP Beetle 🙏
"i dont need bidens america, i need ... a wall!" lmao
That guy who thinks Warrior gear costs as much as Stormweaver gear lmao. Dude never heard of Supply and Demand
How dare rarity increase rarity! I'm flabbergasted!
Its also busted, why did GGG invent this mechanic, then go back in time and tell the D2 devs about it! So toxic! /s
Damn man gotta cry harder so i feel better about myself
the 0 second clutch was more intense with 50 gifted subs x)
the blink build is straight out of diablo 2 it was obviously meant for that lol
Good job. Game is good, even like sanctum and trailmaster now, never did them in POE1
Free from the vulture cage at last
Lucky lightning is about 30% more avg dmg for anybody that's curious about the math.
Damn you Empyriangaming, you ruined my damn picnic!
From the people that tested rarity it seems like anything over 75-100 which wasn’t a huge increase maybe actually like a 25% increase in rarer drops over all from the data but needs more testing. I think the biggest thing happening is breaches and juiced maps full of rare mobs that are making it rain loot and being able to wipe the screen over and over during a breech
So basicaly, ppl are complaining that more mobs and more clear = more loot ?
Are they gonna complain about others ppl having more time to play the game too ?
Seem like the exact point of these kinds of game tbh lol
How do you get 500% rarity and still do damage. I need to know!! D:
!mfbuild in twitch chat for build link
!mfsorc sorry*
I just don’t get how people care so much in a non PVP game I play like 10 hours a week and it’s very enjoyable to watch emp give the devs a rim job
LMAO... They thought it was from PoE2
We're exiles of course we have Rarity on our Gear
Guys please stop taking all the divines, im dying of thirst over here.
Every empy video I watch without fail has a diablo ad on it 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's so sad how targeted it is. Only on poe content
If you don't abuse the broken meta it does make you feel like the game is trash and unfun . That part is true and not very good for the health of this game .
Hey man I been watching you how do you have enough spirit to use blink aswell as have archmage ? Can you do a gear reveal and maybe a build video but just explain the build as you was talking to 5 year olds and how to build 😂
BRO, theses clips, some friend who started poe with poe 2 send me these , saying "look how many divine this dude is making !", i was dying of laugh, but i still told him it was poe 1 lol
He was thinking he found the way for 10+ div per map lmaoooooo
i remember afliction, best league i ever played in 3k hours, got mirror hh and MB and a lot of lots divines, chaos orbs wanst in my filter 😂 u finally free congrats