BL4 should be simple to script. Gives us a great story with a great NEW villain and not just bring back Jack. Throw in BL3's gameplay and endgame. Use Wonderlands always on level drops and cast Will Arnett as the new villain. Also since they made New Tales canon, bring back Maya cuz killing her off in BL3 was so dirty and left us stuck with brat Ava. Even if she doesn't come back with Siren powers, she could use a techie setup maybe developed by Tannis so she becomes a run and gun playstyle zipping across the battlefield. That said I really do want Maya back if anything just because of Krieg's dlc in BL3. So that means we'll be getting a different Siren vault hunter to play as or Gearbox simple let's Maya be playable and take up the spot with no new Siren in the game.
I'll just wait till it drops. I don't like to speculate. I would like to see you do build vids since I'm not following the nextmakers crew anymore. Hoping you're well and keep up these great videos!
If we just get a solid 2 years support with a good base game and a few expansions, I'd be happy. If they could pull off a 3+ year continuous live service that would also be good. Issue is many live service games in the past 2-3 years have declined rapidly.
If borderlands ends up like destiny I hope the game is dead on release, I would rather the whole series dead stop as soon as 4 comes out than have a new battle pass or season pass come out costing as much as or more than the game every two months
Well unless you plan on becoming ceo of gearbox anytime soon they’re gonna do what they’re gonna do. Just don’t play it. Erase it from your life cause being salty about it is how you end up like mak
@@djnes2k7 not only is that impossible it’s also something you don’t want if you want a complete remaster with the borderlands 3 style you have to touch EVERYTHING about this game. Otherwise you have 360 era hammerlock running around a slightly better looking sanctuary. Glitches will also have to be looked at cause I can almost garentee you hyperius and bunker are not meant to be one shotted so their hit boxes will most likely looked at at their redesign. But remaster or not you’ll bite their heads off over something this stupid community always does
If it becomes paid to win, and if there’s a shit ton of skin cosmetics, you have to pay for that game will die quick as fuck, especially if the DLC is expensive
Maybe they can do something else than a level cap increase? Like in the first game in Underdome dlc. I mean, yeah it was tedious to do all the arena battles but receiving additional skill points for some sort of activity seems appealing to me🤔
if the base game of bl4 releases and doesnt have ON RELEASE raid raidbosses, i want at LEAST 1 classic and 1 for the raid good overall endgame loop good sidecontent / quests pearls must return and they need to be powerful and rare the game must function, whatever happened with bl3 and wonderlands is NOT okay good balancing good eridium / money economy, if i see 250+ eridium for a reroll or a single raidboss im done with that
Im itching to know what the VH berserker archetype will be for BL4. So hard to top Moze, whose Iron Bear could mimic Brick, Salvador, and go berserk in its own explosive way.
I bought all the content for B3 and I got value for my money. As long as the content is worth the price I have no problem with the developer making money.
Borderlands 4 will be a traditional game Randy Has already said that if they were to shake up the formula it would be in the form of a spin off game hence Wonderlands which is now its own franchise with a sequel in dev. Gearbox has also recently updated their copyright claim on the title "borderworlds" and a different gearbox thats not in tx austin has job listings for mmo fps experience. take that as you will
Doing all of this isn't Borderlands, and personally I'll play a new borderlands to level cap then put it down until the final level cap is out, I hate the idea of a constantly shifting goalpost, it took me 5 years to Min Max all 6 characters in BL2 for 72 OP8 for them a couple months later to spit in Mt face with lvl 80 OP10 I've never touched the game since. But thats just me.
I wouldn't mind if they kept releasing more Bl3 story dlc content... or instead of just 4 for Bl4, there would be 8 story dlc's. What I'm mostly concerned about in the next BL game is the rampant DEI rotting even more of the story which is already heading down the drain. Bl1 basically had no story, Bl2 had great story (with a legendary villain), but Bl3's story is a hinderance. I expect longer Epic Games store exclusivity, more braindead catering toward casual players, same or more performance issues as with Bl3 and even more turbulent balancing period as Gearbox invents the wheel again. I'm cautiosly looking forward to Bl4, but I'm gonna' sit back longer before I dive in.
They definitely should have an amped up better version of Arm Race with better maps and allow for more exploration and more creative builds within the game mode. It could be a game changer for BL4
It wouldn't surprise me honestly. I think we are reaching a finality to the continuity and the characters we got since the first game. Doesn't mean GBX will not continue to expand this lore, just that the main Borderlands series will soon be over. With Wonderlands being the way for the studio to keep a foot in the Looter/Shooter/Slasher genre. We did learn with Take Two buying back GBX to Embracer that they are working on 6 games with one being a totally new IP so after BL4, they gonna take a big hiatus from the Borderlands universe.
Please no live service. Anyone asking for Borderlands to turn into something like Destiny is just begging for always online, mtx filled garbage. I can just imagine all the day 1 bitching on BL4's launch with people complaining they can't play bc 90% of live service games can never get their launch right with people stuck in an infinite queue bc the servers will be fucked guaranteed. Hope everyone's ready for $20 vault hunter skins because that's our future if BL4 goes full live service. Goodbye to mod support as well. All BL4 needs is BL3 gameplay, better writing, better optimization, and less visual pollution and boom you got a great Borderlands game.
Agreed but sadly, it seems like the whole industry went down to that path... I'm pretty sure BL4 will not be an exception. Now I have very low expectation for BL4 especially after that awful new Tales from the borderlands game.
Since you have your time traveling delorian wanna tell me what the stock markets gonna look like? In all seriousness no one really knows what bl4 will be all you have to go off on is imagination and there’s really nothing you can do but be patient and wait. Thats why the soulsborne community gets good content cause we know they’ll deliver its just a matter of patience. Meanwhile you’re just waiting so you and this community can continue biting their head off no matter what they do.
@@nathanhendrickson790 I'm just here expressing my opinions about why BL4 should not be a live service due to the history of what a live service game entails. Nowhere did I imply that what I say in a youtube comments section will change what GBX will do with BL4. Nothing I say will affect GBX in anyway, but thats not going to stop me from saying that a live service BL4 will be a shitshow You're here talking about delorians, stock markets, and the dark souls community on a Borderlands related vid LOL. Should have just told me to STFU instead of making me decipher whatever the fuck you were writing
@@Tr1p5 it should be pretty simple what I’m implying. Keyword is will. Will means you know this will happen and will result in this specific outcome. It’s further supported by you speaking like it’s set in stone like it’s going to happen. Hence the joke about the delorian. You are speaking as if you know so obviously you must’ve traveled to the future. That’s the joke. I’m comparing this dumbass community to the soulsborne community because of bl4 and shadows of the erdtree coming out. Soulsborne fans are waiting and preparing meanwhile all you’re doing is waiting to bite their head off on site. I compared the two because one group is behaving like adults and the other is behaving like children. If you’re thinking about being a comedian I would suggest finding another means of employment cause if you can’t understand a simple joke like that your career is already dead in the water.
@@Tr1p5 yeah im insulting you and joking about how you speak like what you said is set in stone when it’s not. That’s arrogance and a good way to make yourself a lol cow. I compared you to the soulsborne community cause like bl4 shadows of the erdtree is coming out and people in that community are excited, waiting and preparing for the new content and meanwhile you’re tapping your leg and finger just waiting to bite gearboxes head off at the site of the slightest bl4 news
My thoughts are that it's gonna cost like 60-70$ for a while on release so I'll just wait for the game+dlc's to get packed up into a nice, 60%+ discounted package :)
Make pearls return Add some old game content like OG raid bosses and more weapons and even other rarities which shall be much harder to grind since we can crank like 30+ drops from wotan with shlooter And actually they can keep anything else from BL3 i like the gameplay,mechanics and movement really much but they could bring RJ back maybe with specific launchers for them and about the difficulty system in my opinion mayhem can stay.
Borderlands 4's atmosphere would be fantastic if Gearbox can hold back from drinking too much of that shitlib kool aid. Look at how good and hilarious BL2 is, because they didn't care much about what shitlibs had to say. It had its own identity and did extremely well in that niche. Now THAT is peak Borderlands Gameplay-wise, it is imperative they make most gear useful in their respective use cases for actual gameplay "diversity".
Yeah the writer for BL2 is long gone. Unfortunately, the writer for BL3 is now head of the whole narrative department. So it's 100% gonna be full of dei garbage.
Gearbox really need to tap into the live service, they can't make it mainly a story game anymore in this era of gaming, honestly wouldn't mind doing seasonal activitys, raids, dungeons or missions like or even pvp/pvepvp like destiny 2 does it, keep it at its core but expand that options the players have so we aren't board to death, they could do it better and different to destiny, and expand the class building, give legendarys random stat rolls to farm, class items and artifacts unique perks even if its dlc content, people don't mind paying if its worth it
My opinion is that destiny with all its flaws, does looter shooters the best for this era of gaming, borderlands just hands you the best items in the game and it feels like after the story and dlc, theres nothing to progress, nothing to farm, and no difficulty in the game and now you just sit there dreadfully bored because theres quite literally nothing to achieve
With the way they are going... I actually feel like I'd rather not have BL4. Bl3 and wonderlands, and legit turned the volume down and just played music or yt in the background. They both felt like a slog too. I got both heavily discounted (around 15dollars)
I don't care if BL 4 final game, I just want to WITNESS what a very high budget game can achieve with comic book style graphics. BL 3 had amazing graphics but nowhere the "super end graphics" . I WANT MORE AND BETTER.
Considering that BL4 is being built using BL3, it could end up being more so like a BL3.5. Although I do greatly question both the story and quality of the game, as both of those have dropped drastically since BL3 and never improved since. For the game to have any longevity, it will need to be at least as good as BL1 but it should be better than BL2. If not, it could end up going the way of Wonderlands and get a single play through and done. In other words, Gearbox can not afford BL4 to bomb. Make it as great as BL2 or not at all.
Not only the DLC sucked in Wonderlands but the Endgame was simply annoying. The same 5 rooms over and over again and the other half of the time holding square with your crosshair on a bunny statue. I really hope they ignore Wonderlands all together.
so ive watched the video now and man you got some bad takes here for 1 there is alot broken or bad about the content they released for bl3 we should NOT try to repeat whatever happened there vault cards arent that great ( and are propably going to end up being some sort of live service shit that is EXTREMELY grind just to justify its existence) to make the game better we need something that replaces the skilltrees or modifies them enough where the lvl cap increase matters in a good way 1 massiv problem is they arent wide enough even gbx said that the trees arent build for lvl increases the main issue for this and op / mayhem / chaos all of which are dogshit is the lack of a good skill system personally would like to see maybe a skillnet instead, or wide and deep trees that are made so that you cant skill into another tree if you want the capstone of that tree and you cant spend more then 5 points per row THEN a lvl increase will actually do good cuz then you can very simply increase lvl by say 30 or so and its still not bad
Borderlands 4 may be the last Borderlands IF Gearbox doesn’t get it together they need to go back to their older style of that crazy backwoods mad max vibe like In BL1 and BL2. Get rid of the crazy blinding obstructive artifacts in BL3 and get rid of the wacky mayhem modifiers we want to play BL in only classic mode. Epic, Legendary, and Pearls need to be rare and not easy to obtain the loot drops in BL3 are way to generous the weapons are very OP lasting 20 some levels and no effort was required the game overall was way to easy you can go to a vending machine and get a legendary, epic, rare easily force players to explore the open world scavenging different loot sources or looking for chests just going to a vending machine is boring . They need to ditch the weapon anointment system altogether we want to farm great GUN PARTS not anointments. Next bring melee rareties in BL4 and a gun customization option of swapping out certain parts for the cost of money like scopes, muzzle devices, clips and gun mods (secondary firing modes/attachments) Possibly bring back the Grinder or have a weapon trade in system with gun vendors for junk weapons/items for a higher tier weapon/items. Develop villains that are relatable llikable and maniacal like Jack not cringy obnoxious villains like the Calypso Twins. ditch the DEI bullshit and focus on making a pure gaming open world experience of scavenging and targeted loot farming with dedicated drops on day 1.
Bruh separate your comments. Do you know what paragraphing is? See I just did it. See what I’m doing? Isn’t this a lot easier to read than your wall of text? Maybe try this next time.
Personally I don’t think borderlands should go the live service route but maybe give it the Elden ring service. What do I mean? Make all fast travel and new u stations sudo bonfires or sites of grace where you can rest at them, recover your hp, respawn enemies as well as bosses and fast travel to any of them any time. Replace loot luck or anything like that with discovery. The higher it is the better rates for dedicated drops get. No lucky dice or skill points required the higher level you are the better your discovery gets the more times you get dedicated drops of course it won’t affect loot drops
I want something new. Multiplayer game modes like SWAT, TDM, PROP HUNT, FFA, and team snipers! Don’t just bring back old guns and abilities. New rarities. Remove white rarity if you have to. Swimming and underwater missions, low gravity maps, skill point SDU’s instead of level cap increases. Give us stealth missions with silenced weapons, let us ride dragons and other beasts, and farm for exotic pets out in the wild, instead of only being able to use them on certain characters. Separate skill trees for melee and companion skills, that are the same on every character, and level up separately without taking points away from the main trees. WELL-WORDED descriptions to skills and stats so us normal people can actually figure out how to optimize our build on our own without HAVING to watch a thousand RUclips videos. EVERY ITEM FARMABLE FROM ENEMIES. No quest reward exclusive items especially on ones that you can’t replay.
This is not a typical shooter nor AAA dipshit its borderlands and an FFA mode would fry up the fucking servers what you gonna do when 8 moze's appear and throw nukes everywhere do not call of dutify this shit.
i'm not too hopeful personally I expect woke trash even more so than bl3 is but I hope they continue to improve gameplay and visuals at least and give us a lot more end game content that will last years hopefully. They really need to make sure they balance the abilities and weapons properly it took way too long for bl3 to finally reach that peak level of feeling powerful and still having challenges that were not over the top hard like that stupid minos prime destiny style raid. I'd also like to see a lot more destruction in this as well walls that can be blown apart trees whatever, if a badass is hiding behind a vehicle to be able to blow it up.
Lot of original creators are gone. Randy and the rest are bored and see themselves greater than the series and explains the other garbage they have done, tales, tinas wonder and the movie. However the borderlands brand will be sold to another company much like halo. So it will continue, but it wont be the same....which could be great, but may share the fate of halo, gears of war and resident evil.
you what "a significant impact in the gaming industry" lmfao look at your own viewer counts lmfao and then say that again with a straight face significant indeed, just not in the way that its implied
Yayyyyyyyy, I miss your countdown music. It's great you make videos, you beat the odds. Congrats Gearbox was bleeding and losing money hand over fist. That's why they had to sell. Gearbox's biggest problem is they went the route of Woke. Not getting in politics, ask Disney shareholders how the Woke agenda is working out for them. The borderlands movie is going to be a badass flop because of the Woke agenda. The game is dead. RIP
They still haven’t added raid bosses in borderlands 3 and they stopped supporting it only after 3-4 years? Yeah a new game should NOT be their priority rn.
Wotan the invincible? Scourge the invincible? Hemovourus and vermivourus? Yeah you’re right absolutely no raids whatsoever. Oh wait you’re one of those guys who go “not real raids don’t count” right?
Listen here Nathan, I love this game. But from there I stand, this game lacked so much content, excluding dlcs. And on top of that, none of those are challenging whatsoever excluding Hemovourus/vermi. The games boring.
@@itschoke and that right there is why it is. Let me guess you love bl2. To you it can do no wrong right? Well I got news for you everything you think is wrong with raids in 3 can be turned around on your lord and savior. Pyro Pete? Pillar. Teramorphis? Cliff. Hyperius? Bore. Everyone else? Salvadore. Sure if you feel like banging your head against a wall till it falls down you can do that but ultimately cheese and exploits are what everybody falls back to when dealing with raids and in your own words “that makes the game boring” And besides farming god rolls and playing as new characters at the end of the day that’s all there is. The issues were there for damn near 13 years and just now it’s a problem?
@@itschoke it’s that kind of behavior that made me leave the borderlands community and never look back because no one in this community is capable of enjoying anything unless borderlands 2 is on the cover. That and everyone is more concerned about getting a “gotcha” on each other (mak, hellfire) than the actual games themselves. Sometimes I wonder if you want bl4 or bl2 2K 25 where everything is the same it’s just a bit prettier.
Borderlands died after 2. They focused too hard on what made 1 and 2 successful that they went too deep on 3 and went woke and too many Easter eggs that the game became a parody of itself.
Then play something else. You know what I do when I don’t like a game? I don’t play it. I don’t talk about it. It does not exist to me. In any form whatsoever and is not worth my breath. You know what they call people like you who let bl3 live rent free in their head? Salty
@nathanhendrickson790 wow I think you are the salty one. I enjoyed bl3 just not as much as bl and bl2. Lmao I'm just saying I preferred the older stuff, much like most games. But let's be really real for a moment. This was about borderlands, this is why I mentioned it. If as you say, you don't like a game then it's out your mind gone n forgotten, then why couldn't you do the same with my comment? It doesn't affect you in anyway. To me it seems like you're the salty one, trying to defend bl3 against a random online. Ask yourself why you chose to be the way you are.
@@virtualbunksie5117 also wanna know how I know you are lying and that you are mad salty? “Borderlands died after 2” “it’s a parody” those are comments I’ve only seen in the likes of people as salty as mak and hellfire. Also, liar, if you liked bl3 you wouldn’t call it a parody or be as hateful as you are.
Borderlands 3 is was, and remains after five years, the WORST game in the franchise! It's B3 is borderline unplayable. I was hoping B3 was going to be the last game, unless gearbox is dumped along with the amoral and pathetic randy p(r)itchford who royally screwed up gearbox and lost so much of the talent that had made the borderlands games so good until B3.
And I say good riddance. Could’ve had a franchise that could hold a candle to soulsborne games if you spoke up earlier and been as critical of this 12 years ago but you didn’t. Your franchise is dead and you only have yourselves to blame
@@malicious_joy hm that’s a nice theory. Except a fanboy has to be completely loyal to a product or company and I’m just as critical about soulsborne games as I am about any other product. Also I wouldn’t throw that word out considering it’s your fault your games suck right now.
@@nathanhendrickson790 No guilt on my part. I've been criticizing crap since BL3 came out. I could still laugh about Wonderlands, but NTotB was just sad. I have already posted entire lists with objective suggestions for improvement. But Randy is greedy and extremely self-absorbed...
Drop your thoughts on Borderlands 4 👇
I'm not gonna lie I thought you said battle pass in the video instead of season pass sorry if you saw the previous comment 😅
I would like too see multiple season passes for borderlands as well
BL4 should be simple to script. Gives us a great story with a great NEW villain and not just bring back Jack. Throw in BL3's gameplay and endgame. Use Wonderlands always on level drops and cast Will Arnett as the new villain. Also since they made New Tales canon, bring back Maya cuz killing her off in BL3 was so dirty and left us stuck with brat Ava. Even if she doesn't come back with Siren powers, she could use a techie setup maybe developed by Tannis so she becomes a run and gun playstyle zipping across the battlefield. That said I really do want Maya back if anything just because of Krieg's dlc in BL3. So that means we'll be getting a different Siren vault hunter to play as or Gearbox simple let's Maya be playable and take up the spot with no new Siren in the game.
I'll just wait till it drops. I don't like to speculate. I would like to see you do build vids since I'm not following the nextmakers crew anymore. Hoping you're well and keep up these great videos!
Hopefully gets over an 80 in Metacritic.
If we just get a solid 2 years support with a good base game and a few expansions, I'd be happy.
If they could pull off a 3+ year continuous live service that would also be good. Issue is many live service games in the past 2-3 years have declined rapidly.
If borderlands ends up like destiny I hope the game is dead on release, I would rather the whole series dead stop as soon as 4 comes out than have a new battle pass or season pass come out costing as much as or more than the game every two months
Well unless you plan on becoming ceo of gearbox anytime soon they’re gonna do what they’re gonna do. Just don’t play it. Erase it from your life cause being salty about it is how you end up like mak
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you trippin bro when has destiny ever released a dlc in 2 moths its like 1 to 2 years bro lmao
@@kitty_cupid685 ✨️ hyperbole ✨️
@@kitty_cupid685 so....uhm.....final shape?
i would love a BL1/2/ Pre Sequel remake with the BL3 style, and/or a 3rd person option, but thats just me i guess.
With you
Third person must for me. And more visual pollution
Definite not just one. I think it’s very large minority. Better fast travel. Rework the skill trees, and leave the good stuff alone, glitches and all
@@djnes2k7 not only is that impossible it’s also something you don’t want if you want a complete remaster with the borderlands 3 style you have to touch EVERYTHING about this game. Otherwise you have 360 era hammerlock running around a slightly better looking sanctuary. Glitches will also have to be looked at cause I can almost garentee you hyperius and bunker are not meant to be one shotted so their hit boxes will most likely looked at at their redesign.
But remaster or not you’ll bite their heads off over something this stupid community always does
To be fair it's probably best that they just leave them alone- I can see them messing up alot and making it horrible
If it becomes paid to win, and if there’s a shit ton of skin cosmetics, you have to pay for that game will die quick as fuck, especially if the DLC is expensive
Maybe they can do something else than a level cap increase? Like in the first game in Underdome dlc. I mean, yeah it was tedious to do all the arena battles but receiving additional skill points for some sort of activity seems appealing to me🤔
if the base game of bl4 releases and doesnt have ON RELEASE
raid
raidbosses, i want at LEAST 1 classic and 1 for the raid
good overall endgame loop
good sidecontent / quests
pearls must return and they need to be powerful and rare
the game must function, whatever happened with bl3 and wonderlands is NOT okay
good balancing
good eridium / money economy, if i see 250+ eridium for a reroll or a single raidboss im done with that
Im itching to know what the VH berserker archetype will be for BL4. So hard to top Moze, whose Iron Bear could mimic Brick, Salvador, and go berserk in its own explosive way.
I bought all the content for B3 and I got value for my money. As long as the content is worth the price I have no problem with the developer making money.
Fr i got the season pass bundle and my game progress skyrocketed since i had the new tree and OP gear and content
Chaos levels sucked... wonderlands was awful... I honestly can't believe they are making a second one...
Wonderlands was tight
@fknGandalf tight.... but gets boring real fast....
Chaos levels are better than the power levels
Wonderlands wasn't awful, just lacking content
I thought the base game was great, but everything that came after was boring as hell.
They just need sick builds and not constantly nerf them.
Nah bro moze used to crash my game with no nerfs💀
I hope it's not the final game, I don't play COD or any online FPS, Borderlands is the only FPS looter-shooter I play
I want to see mult-classes again.
Borderlands 4 will be a traditional game
Randy Has already said that if they were to shake up the formula it would be in the form of a spin off game hence Wonderlands which is now its own franchise with a sequel in dev. Gearbox has also recently updated their copyright claim on the title "borderworlds" and a different gearbox thats not in tx austin has job listings for mmo fps experience. take that as you will
Doing all of this isn't Borderlands, and personally I'll play a new borderlands to level cap then put it down until the final level cap is out, I hate the idea of a constantly shifting goalpost, it took me 5 years to Min Max all 6 characters in BL2 for 72 OP8 for them a couple months later to spit in Mt face with lvl 80 OP10 I've never touched the game since. But thats just me.
They should just call it a day they have all but murdered this franchise
I wouldn't mind if they kept releasing more Bl3 story dlc content... or instead of just 4 for Bl4, there would be 8 story dlc's.
What I'm mostly concerned about in the next BL game is the rampant DEI rotting even more of the story which is already heading down the drain. Bl1 basically had no story, Bl2 had great story (with a legendary villain), but Bl3's story is a hinderance.
I expect longer Epic Games store exclusivity, more braindead catering toward casual players, same or more performance issues as with Bl3 and even more turbulent balancing period as Gearbox invents the wheel again.
I'm cautiosly looking forward to Bl4, but I'm gonna' sit back longer before I dive in.
They definitely should have an amped up better version of Arm Race with better maps and allow for more exploration and more creative builds within the game mode. It could be a game changer for BL4
It wouldn't surprise me honestly. I think we are reaching a finality to the continuity and the characters we got since the first game. Doesn't mean GBX will not continue to expand this lore, just that the main Borderlands series will soon be over. With Wonderlands being the way for the studio to keep a foot in the Looter/Shooter/Slasher genre. We did learn with Take Two buying back GBX to Embracer that they are working on 6 games with one being a totally new IP so after BL4, they gonna take a big hiatus from the Borderlands universe.
Do a smash ultimate and say everyone is here and we can pic every vault hunter ever
YES!!!
Please no live service. Anyone asking for Borderlands to turn into something like Destiny is just begging for always online, mtx filled garbage. I can just imagine all the day 1 bitching on BL4's launch with people complaining they can't play bc 90% of live service games can never get their launch right with people stuck in an infinite queue bc the servers will be fucked guaranteed. Hope everyone's ready for $20 vault hunter skins because that's our future if BL4 goes full live service. Goodbye to mod support as well. All BL4 needs is BL3 gameplay, better writing, better optimization, and less visual pollution and boom you got a great Borderlands game.
Agreed but sadly, it seems like the whole industry went down to that path... I'm pretty sure BL4 will not be an exception.
Now I have very low expectation for BL4 especially after that awful new Tales from the borderlands game.
Since you have your time traveling delorian wanna tell me what the stock markets gonna look like?
In all seriousness no one really knows what bl4 will be all you have to go off on is imagination and there’s really nothing you can do but be patient and wait.
Thats why the soulsborne community gets good content cause we know they’ll deliver its just a matter of patience.
Meanwhile you’re just waiting so you and this community can continue biting their head off no matter what they do.
@@nathanhendrickson790 I'm just here expressing my opinions about why BL4 should not be a live service due to the history of what a live service game entails. Nowhere did I imply that what I say in a youtube comments section will change what GBX will do with BL4. Nothing I say will affect GBX in anyway, but thats not going to stop me from saying that a live service BL4 will be a shitshow
You're here talking about delorians, stock markets, and the dark souls community on a Borderlands related vid LOL. Should have just told me to STFU instead of making me decipher whatever the fuck you were writing
@@Tr1p5 it should be pretty simple what I’m implying. Keyword is will. Will means you know this will happen and will result in this specific outcome. It’s further supported by you speaking like it’s set in stone like it’s going to happen.
Hence the joke about the delorian. You are speaking as if you know so obviously you must’ve traveled to the future. That’s the joke.
I’m comparing this dumbass community to the soulsborne community because of bl4 and shadows of the erdtree coming out. Soulsborne fans are waiting and preparing meanwhile all you’re doing is waiting to bite their head off on site. I compared the two because one group is behaving like adults and the other is behaving like children.
If you’re thinking about being a comedian I would suggest finding another means of employment cause if you can’t understand a simple joke like that your career is already dead in the water.
@@Tr1p5 yeah im insulting you and joking about how you speak like what you said is set in stone when it’s not. That’s arrogance and a good way to make yourself a lol cow.
I compared you to the soulsborne community cause like bl4 shadows of the erdtree is coming out and people in that community are excited, waiting and preparing for the new content and meanwhile you’re tapping your leg and finger just waiting to bite gearboxes head off at the site of the slightest bl4 news
My thoughts are that it's gonna cost like 60-70$ for a while on release so I'll just wait for the game+dlc's to get packed up into a nice, 60%+ discounted package :)
Make pearls return
Add some old game content like OG raid bosses and more weapons and even other rarities which shall be much harder to grind since we can crank like 30+ drops from wotan with shlooter
And actually they can keep anything else from BL3 i like the gameplay,mechanics and movement really much but they could bring RJ back maybe with specific launchers for them and about the difficulty system in my opinion mayhem can stay.
Borderlands 4's atmosphere would be fantastic if Gearbox can hold back from drinking too much of that shitlib kool aid. Look at how good and hilarious BL2 is, because they didn't care much about what shitlibs had to say. It had its own identity and did extremely well in that niche. Now THAT is peak Borderlands
Gameplay-wise, it is imperative they make most gear useful in their respective use cases for actual gameplay "diversity".
Yeah the writer for BL2 is long gone. Unfortunately, the writer for BL3 is now head of the whole narrative department. So it's 100% gonna be full of dei garbage.
Gearbox really need to tap into the live service, they can't make it mainly a story game anymore in this era of gaming, honestly wouldn't mind doing seasonal activitys, raids, dungeons or missions like or even pvp/pvepvp like destiny 2 does it, keep it at its core but expand that options the players have so we aren't board to death, they could do it better and different to destiny, and expand the class building, give legendarys random stat rolls to farm, class items and artifacts unique perks even if its dlc content, people don't mind paying if its worth it
My opinion is that destiny with all its flaws, does looter shooters the best for this era of gaming, borderlands just hands you the best items in the game and it feels like after the story and dlc, theres nothing to progress, nothing to farm, and no difficulty in the game and now you just sit there dreadfully bored because theres quite literally nothing to achieve
With the way they are going... I actually feel like I'd rather not have BL4. Bl3 and wonderlands, and legit turned the volume down and just played music or yt in the background. They both felt like a slog too. I got both heavily discounted (around 15dollars)
I don't care if BL 4 final game, I just want to WITNESS what a very high budget game can achieve with comic book style graphics. BL 3 had amazing graphics but nowhere the "super end graphics" . I WANT MORE AND BETTER.
Considering that BL4 is being built using BL3, it could end up being more so like a BL3.5. Although I do greatly question both the story and quality of the game, as both of those have dropped drastically since BL3 and never improved since. For the game to have any longevity, it will need to be at least as good as BL1 but it should be better than BL2. If not, it could end up going the way of Wonderlands and get a single play through and done.
In other words, Gearbox can not afford BL4 to bomb. Make it as great as BL2 or not at all.
If they get the "Bounty of Blood" writers for the main story then that would be a great start imo.
If the series ends at 4. Then we had a great run. #DahlGang
If borderlands 4 end up like borderlands 3 I will go depressed lol
BL3 is waaaaaaaaaaay better than destiny i played distiny for 300h . BL3 more than 2000 h
Not only the DLC sucked in Wonderlands but the Endgame was simply annoying.
The same 5 rooms over and over again and the other half of the time holding square with your crosshair on a bunny statue.
I really hope they ignore Wonderlands all together.
i want borderlands to be like destiny
so ive watched the video now and man you got some bad takes here
for 1 there is alot broken or bad about the content they released for bl3
we should NOT try to repeat whatever happened there
vault cards arent that great ( and are propably going to end up being some sort of live service shit that is EXTREMELY grind just to justify its existence)
to make the game better we need something that replaces the skilltrees or modifies them enough where the lvl cap increase matters in a good way
1 massiv problem is they arent wide enough
even gbx said that the trees arent build for lvl increases
the main issue for this and op / mayhem / chaos all of which are dogshit
is the lack of a good skill system
personally would like to see maybe a skillnet instead, or wide and deep trees that are made so that you cant skill into another tree if you want the capstone of that tree and you cant spend more then 5 points per row
THEN a lvl increase will actually do good
cuz then you can very simply increase lvl by say 30 or so and its still not bad
no comments or likes, yikes
other than me of course.
Borderlands 4 may be the last Borderlands IF Gearbox doesn’t get it together they need to go back to their older style of that crazy backwoods mad max vibe like In BL1 and BL2. Get rid of the crazy blinding obstructive artifacts in BL3 and get rid of the wacky mayhem modifiers we want to play BL in only classic mode. Epic, Legendary, and Pearls need to be rare and not easy to obtain the loot drops in BL3 are way to generous the weapons are very OP lasting 20 some levels and no effort was required the game overall was way to easy you can go to a vending machine and get a legendary, epic, rare easily force players to explore the open world scavenging different loot sources or looking for chests just going to a vending machine is boring . They need to ditch the weapon anointment system altogether we want to farm great GUN PARTS not anointments. Next bring melee rareties in BL4 and a gun customization option of swapping out certain parts for the cost of money like scopes, muzzle devices, clips and gun mods (secondary firing modes/attachments) Possibly bring back the Grinder or have a weapon trade in system with gun vendors for junk weapons/items for a higher tier weapon/items. Develop villains that are relatable llikable and maniacal like Jack not cringy obnoxious villains like the Calypso Twins. ditch the DEI bullshit and focus on making a pure gaming open world experience of scavenging and targeted loot farming with dedicated drops on day 1.
Bruh separate your comments. Do you know what paragraphing is?
See I just did it.
See what I’m doing?
Isn’t this a lot easier to read than your wall of text?
Maybe try this next time.
@@nathanhendrickson790 bruh I normally do but since I wrote a novel I wasn’t going to do it that way because you would be scrolling down for days lol
Personally I don’t think borderlands should go the live service route but maybe give it the Elden ring service. What do I mean?
Make all fast travel and new u stations sudo bonfires or sites of grace where you can rest at them, recover your hp, respawn enemies as well as bosses and fast travel to any of them any time.
Replace loot luck or anything like that with discovery. The higher it is the better rates for dedicated drops get. No lucky dice or skill points required the higher level you are the better your discovery gets the more times you get dedicated drops of course it won’t affect loot drops
The 3rd was abysmal. The story/writing ruined it for me. Coming off of 3, I don't know if 4 would be good.
BL4 might not have the longevity that the series needs simply because they're still using Unreal Engine 4.
I want something new. Multiplayer game modes like SWAT, TDM, PROP HUNT, FFA, and team snipers! Don’t just bring back old guns and abilities. New rarities. Remove white rarity if you have to. Swimming and underwater missions, low gravity maps, skill point SDU’s instead of level cap increases. Give us stealth missions with silenced weapons, let us ride dragons and other beasts, and farm for exotic pets out in the wild, instead of only being able to use them on certain characters. Separate skill trees for melee and companion skills, that are the same on every character, and level up separately without taking points away from the main trees. WELL-WORDED descriptions to skills and stats so us normal people can actually figure out how to optimize our build on our own without HAVING to watch a thousand RUclips videos. EVERY ITEM FARMABLE FROM ENEMIES. No quest reward exclusive items especially on ones that you can’t replay.
This is not a typical shooter nor AAA dipshit its borderlands and an FFA mode would fry up the fucking servers what you gonna do when 8 moze's appear and throw nukes everywhere do not call of dutify this shit.
This will be the last BL due to DEI making it tank and GB will go Bankrupt
I’m praying it’s not a live service like destiny 🙏
I can't wait for 4 lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣 give me now
i'm not too hopeful personally I expect woke trash even more so than bl3 is but I hope they continue to improve gameplay and visuals at least and give us a lot more end game content that will last years hopefully.
They really need to make sure they balance the abilities and weapons properly it took way too long for bl3 to finally reach that peak level of feeling powerful and still having challenges that were not over the top hard like that stupid minos prime destiny style raid.
I'd also like to see a lot more destruction in this as well walls that can be blown apart trees whatever, if a badass is hiding behind a vehicle to be able to blow it up.
Lets get scammed by 'season pass' once again
Lot of original creators are gone. Randy and the rest are bored and see themselves greater than the series and explains the other garbage they have done, tales, tinas wonder and the movie. However the borderlands brand will be sold to another company much like halo. So it will continue, but it wont be the same....which could be great, but may share the fate of halo, gears of war and resident evil.
The 3 was bad, bad writing, out of touch humor, the twins were so cringe, the only good part was few side quests and tech refresh.
Borderlands mmo???
you what
"a significant impact in the gaming industry" lmfao
look at your own viewer counts lmfao and then say that again with a straight face
significant indeed, just not in the way that its implied
Yayyyyyyyy, I miss your countdown music. It's great you make videos, you beat the odds. Congrats
Gearbox was bleeding and losing money hand over fist. That's why they had to sell.
Gearbox's biggest problem is they went the route of Woke. Not getting in politics, ask Disney shareholders how the Woke agenda is working out for them.
The borderlands movie is going to be a badass flop because of the Woke agenda.
The game is dead. RIP
They still haven’t added raid bosses in borderlands 3 and they stopped supporting it only after 3-4 years? Yeah a new game should NOT be their priority rn.
Wotan the invincible? Scourge the invincible? Hemovourus and vermivourus? Yeah you’re right absolutely no raids whatsoever.
Oh wait you’re one of those guys who go “not real raids don’t count” right?
Listen here Nathan, I love this game. But from there I stand, this game lacked so much content, excluding dlcs. And on top of that, none of those are challenging whatsoever excluding Hemovourus/vermi. The games boring.
@@itschoke and that right there is why it is. Let me guess you love bl2. To you it can do no wrong right? Well I got news for you everything you think is wrong with raids in 3 can be turned around on your lord and savior. Pyro Pete? Pillar. Teramorphis? Cliff. Hyperius? Bore. Everyone else? Salvadore. Sure if you feel like banging your head against a wall till it falls down you can do that but ultimately cheese and exploits are what everybody falls back to when dealing with raids and in your own words “that makes the game boring” And besides farming god rolls and playing as new characters at the end of the day that’s all there is. The issues were there for damn near 13 years and just now it’s a problem?
@@itschoke that’s why I can’t take people like you, mak and hellfire seriously it’s not a problem till it no longer appeals to you.
@@itschoke it’s that kind of behavior that made me leave the borderlands community and never look back because no one in this community is capable of enjoying anything unless borderlands 2 is on the cover.
That and everyone is more concerned about getting a “gotcha” on each other (mak, hellfire) than the actual games themselves.
Sometimes I wonder if you want bl4 or bl2 2K 25 where everything is the same it’s just a bit prettier.
Borderlands died after 2.
They focused too hard on what made 1 and 2 successful that they went too deep on 3 and went woke and too many Easter eggs that the game became a parody of itself.
Then play something else. You know what I do when I don’t like a game? I don’t play it. I don’t talk about it. It does not exist to me. In any form whatsoever and is not worth my breath.
You know what they call people like you who let bl3 live rent free in their head? Salty
@nathanhendrickson790 wow I think you are the salty one.
I enjoyed bl3 just not as much as bl and bl2.
Lmao I'm just saying I preferred the older stuff, much like most games.
But let's be really real for a moment.
This was about borderlands, this is why I mentioned it. If as you say, you don't like a game then it's out your mind gone n forgotten, then why couldn't you do the same with my comment? It doesn't affect you in anyway.
To me it seems like you're the salty one, trying to defend bl3 against a random online.
Ask yourself why you chose to be the way you are.
@@virtualbunksie5117 if I were you I’d do the same. Cause not only are you mad salty. You’re a liar too.
@@virtualbunksie5117 also wanna know how I know you are lying and that you are mad salty? “Borderlands died after 2” “it’s a parody” those are comments I’ve only seen in the likes of people as salty as mak and hellfire.
Also, liar, if you liked bl3 you wouldn’t call it a parody or be as hateful as you are.
@@nathanhendrickson790 haha OK Alice, enjoy your stay in wonderland.
Borderlands 3 is was, and remains after five years, the WORST game in the franchise! It's B3 is borderline unplayable. I was hoping B3 was going to be the last game, unless gearbox is dumped along with the amoral and pathetic randy p(r)itchford who royally screwed up gearbox and lost so much of the talent that had made the borderlands games so good until B3.
At least I hope it will be the last. Better an end with horror than a horror without end....
And I say good riddance. Could’ve had a franchise that could hold a candle to soulsborne games if you spoke up earlier and been as critical of this 12 years ago but you didn’t. Your franchise is dead and you only have yourselves to blame
@@nathanhendrickson790 So the franchise is dead, but you still celebrate it as a fanboy!? 🙃
@@malicious_joy hm that’s a nice theory. Except a fanboy has to be completely loyal to a product or company and I’m just as critical about soulsborne games as I am about any other product.
Also I wouldn’t throw that word out considering it’s your fault your games suck right now.
@@nathanhendrickson790 No guilt on my part. I've been criticizing crap since BL3 came out. I could still laugh about Wonderlands, but NTotB was just sad. I have already posted entire lists with objective suggestions for improvement. But Randy is greedy and extremely self-absorbed...
@@malicious_joy and where were you when bl2 came out? Oh right I’m sorry it’s bl2 it can do no wrong right?
Woke ideological stuff and propaganda. That is sick and for me this is dead game.