whats scarier than being in a dark creepy claustrophobic cave thats filled with water... being in a dark scrrepy claustrophobic cave filled with water with a limited and fast depleting air supply... and then... whats scarier than all of that shit.... a gotdam dark creepy claustrophobic cave full of water with your bois lifeless corpse floating there.... Say no to drugs and no to cave diving....😢
@Dovakhin94 John Jones. I tried to flip myself upside down between my bed and my wall in the position he was to see what it felt like. I lasted barely 2 minutes.
@@Dovakhin94 27-28 hours if I recall, not 72 hours. He died from a cardiac arrest. I mean even animals die when they are upside down, humans are not different.
What amazes me is the fact that they saw the clear sign of warning, ignored it, had a bad feeling, ignored that too... those guys deserve what gets them.
There are several factors at work. Especially since the amount of time you have on a given air supply isn't linear. Air usage can easily double and tripple when exerting yourself. So it's mostly overconfidence in being able to limit air usage. At least they used re-breathers (assuming the shown footage is accurate).
@@bwb3881no thanks! My life is worth more than 10 million. I’ve jumped out of planes/ helicopters almost 100 times and I wouldn’t go cave diving at all.
It just seems so pointless to me like its a cave..full of water..theres nothing to even see or do in there like looking at the footage i'm thinking why do these guys even want to go through these caves in the first place, if your going to do a super dangerous hobby do something better than swimming around a dank cave idk.
To be fair, if they all cared about the amount of air supply they had left, many of these stories wouldn't have ended tragically, so we wouldn't hear about these stories
@@francis7336 Survivor Bias (well I mean, you get it). We only hear of those who die, not the thousands others that take it seriously and never put themselves in danger like that.
Well put!!!! I wanted to give that same opinion and voice, but what i had to say would have been way too brash and cold. Then id have all kinds od people calling me a prick, blah blah lol. I absolutely agree, as they initially have zero reason for insane survival antics, they… never mind. Thank you for saying it right, and my heart goes out to the families of all these tragedies. It’s just awful.
My husband asked me how am I able to watch every one of your videos without panicking (i have anxious mood disorder) and it took me a couple seconds to think about it. Turns out these tragic situations are 100% preventable. I'll never go cave diving. Problem solved. No need to stress 🎉
I agree. I don't have a mood disorder (as far as I know.) I just consider myself extremely cautious with a strong desire to keep on living! I just finished binging on Everest expeditions. I already finished off bunches of serial killer videos. Now I am working my way through cave divers. These things don't worry me because I know 100% I will never do this stuff!
Sad thing is his friend paid the price for this dumb move, not him. The lack of air forced Martin to have to exit solo and not as a team leaving his friend behind to get stuck and die basically
What I really don’t understand with cave divers: Martin knew he didn’t have air left in his third tank. Then why the hell he would still choose to go on instead of turning back? Even if he found an air pocket, he still needed air to turn all the way back. Like that are they thinking?
@@dannyryanlannon784 you´re under nitrogen narcosis the whole dive..even at 5m..but symptons real impact start from 30m/100ft and from about 300ft/90m you´re in serious serious danger
Most cave divers follow a very strict plan and will abort the dive very quickly if something goes wrong, these two just disregarded almost all of the rules.
Does anyone else see these openings less than a foot by two feet and just think "Nope, That would never happen to me, i'm too afraid to go into a hyper claustraphobic semi-flooding cave".
Yes, don’t get it. And don’t have so much sympathy because look, they’re not afraid to go in and face such danger. Love the videos though, just don’t get why you’d enter somewhere like that.,
Honestly caving tragedies leave me uncomfortable because while I know its heartbreaking i can't stop thinking why would anyone push the limits when they could always come back again to extend the exploration when they were better prepared. Its often said we need to recognize our limitations but when you have a literal guage that is telling you you're not going to make it out alive but press on anyway??? Thats just a Darwin Award.
I think the exact same thing. To me it makes no sense. It's not like they're getting some kinda reward, they're barely getting bragging rights because any normal person is gonna just think they're crazy to do this kind of stuff. I fully 100% do no understand what would drive someone to do this
Even though I'd never do it, I can understand it's to do with the thrill. Like imagine standing near some specific cliff but only a select few go right to its edge to see what's on the bottom of the cliff. You kinda want to go to the edge to see what's all the excitement about and only so people go to the edge. You know it's risky but you reckon you can make it back safely, even if a sudden gust of wind might push you over, you think you can withstand the wind.
@@TracksWithDax And it's not like the cave is going to disappear too. The only problem is when you're on a journey and you have a limited amount of time before going back home but this is still not a good reason to take such a risk...
@Hazan12345 I suppose... but I can't imagine it's the same thrill as, say, a rollercoaster, where it's fast and you're restrained. I also can't imagine it's the same thrill as rock climbing, which even though it's similarly technical and dangerous, it *can* be pretty quick, it's usually not dark and claustrophobic, etc. Maybe this is just proof I'm not the caving type 😂
When diving underwater, air is as important to have as a parachute is to a skydiver. So why chance running out of it? If you have 3 tanks, act like there are 2 and head back when the first one runs out. He was on E and drove into the mountains looking for a gas station.
That’s one of the rules certified divers learn! I’m a certified scuba diver, not cave diver, but I’ve even been told that in my regular scuba diving classes.
Whenever you are exploring an unfamiliar environment, always stop every 20 seconds or so, just to take a good look behind you. Most people don't seem to realize that on your way back, the environment will look completely unfamiliar as it is in reverse.
I have a theory. What if Roger ran out of air and cut the rope. Why? Because he knew his bestfriend would come looking for him and have to use the air meant for the travel back. He knew once Martin noticed the line was cut he’d go back, thus saving himself.
What's frightening about cave diving is getting caught in a cave collapse, running out of air, dying alone, and the cave becoming your tomb/grave. Nope I'll pass on this one.
Can you imagine going for a couple mile run in the woods but only having a certain amount of time to get back to the starting point otherwise you die? Well, the same idea but underwater in a cave is cave diving! This along with millions of unseen potential hazards. These people must be on the high end of the spectrum of crazy.
Why don't they put on a light, camera on a big fish and let it swin in this cave so that they can capture or learn the cave instead of venturing themselves ? These days LIDAR could be used.
@@mageshmac4716 think this was before the benefits of modern technology buddy. Also, at the pressures of the depths these guys dove in there are not even that many modern camras that would survive. most modern tech is only water proofed in known pure distilled water up to 2 meters. This is not pure water that could potentially react to the seals and also went much further than 2 meters. most water proof devices would fail unless specifically designed to do exactly this.
@@oceanbytez847 yes this incident was long back.. but I am suggesting for modern tech at current times.. cave exploration is not giving any 'immediate benefits' to humans except geological expansion.. whatever it be, need not risk human lives to explore it.. water drones could be used.. or trained aquatic animals could be used instead of humans..
if you really want to freak out then you should search for edd soerensen and listen to his cave diving rescue and body recovery stories... that man really must have a screw loose somewhere to be able to do what he does!
I've been a scuba diver for 20 years. I can count the number of times I've been cave diving on a zero. I like being able to return home as a living person. Not staying in a cave as a corpse.
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I don't know why I am addicted to watching these caving disasters. I am claustrophobic and sometimes have to turn the videos off or pause because it makes my anxiety increase. I can sometimes imagine it is me and it gives me chills
@DouglasSnodgrass I honestly don't get it. Just them showing the small entrances to these caves causes anxiety, so I know if I were actually there at the opening, I'd start freaking out trying to get the heck away from there😄I'd be a liability at the entrance 🤣
@@Calli-kw3qz lol. We both would be a liability. I think my paranoia started about 5-6 years old. My uncle and his friend blocked me in a tunnel with no way out. I was rescued a few hours later but it left a imprint on my subconscious mind.
I’ve never considered myself to be claustrophobic, but these cave diving videos sure bring out that fear. The idea of doing this in a tight space while underwater with a slowly diminishing air supply is terrifying.
you should check out the stories of edd soerensen, he is a cave rescue and body recovery diver. along with claustrophobic tight caves getting stuck, running out of air, dark muddy water with close to zero visibility, you can add panicked divers trying to drown him, dead bodies, decaying dead bodies, the man invented his own harness to go around the bodies so they wont fall apart as he pulls them out, and in one of his stories he describes feeling around for a body in what he called the "blood layer"... apparently in a cave with still standing water the body starts to desolve and its fluids just leak out and remain floating around the body for a long time. the man is absolutely insane!
Fear of heights and tight spaces and drowning in deep sea is natural for humankind and animals as well. It's called self preservation. Phobias are probably just more excessive versions
I very rarely ever comment on anything on RUclips in all the years I've had an account. This is personal though as my family were friends of both Roger and Martyn. Both my Dad and Grandfather were cavers here in South Wales and members of various caving clubs, unfortunately my Dad is now in his 60's and Grandfather 90's, their caving days long since done. I grew up listening to this set of circumstances that led to Roger Solari's loss. From my understanding he was sitting in my grandparents living room only a week or so before he passed away as he was discussing with my Dad on teaching him to dive. My Dad was a good caver in his day but wanted to progress and learn cave diving. Some of the older local cavers who've seen this may possibly recognise my last name, Webb, and remember who my Dad and Grandfather are. My Dad was also the first man down what was believed to be at the time, the deepest cave in Europe, and was on the TV back in the day although briefly! Very good documentary though MrDeified, lots of respect to you covering these tragedies. May you forever rest in peace Roger and your name be remembered in caving for decades to come.
I used to go caving a lot until one day, I found out that a teenager who lived 7 miles from my house died in the cave we went in all the time. The same cave. Cave diving is even worse and so if you ever get a horrible feeling that maybe you should turn back...turn back.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people treat things like diving as if it's just a stroll around town. Pushing yourself to walk a couple extra blocks when you're tired is one thing but when you literally have a finite amount of air available there is no pushing yourself just a little further. Deciding you want to explore just a little longer isn't going to make more oxygen suddenly appear.
I totally agree with you. After seeing the claustrophobic pictures I don’t even want to try to understand, why someone could do this kind of shit on purpose.
I do. These places look majestic, mysterious and otherworldly. It's exciting to be in a place where you're not naturally supposed to be and see something other than the mundane things that you're used to every day.
I hate it when that happens...& one of my pipes just sprung a leak, so I'll soon be having to do just that... but that causes me more than enough stress & distress as I think I need in my life...
We have some missing insulation in a section of our crawl space-- about 2' tall in that section. My husband wants us to fix this ourselves.He says I need to think of this as an adventure. Seriously.
I want to share my experience and hope that what I share will help my readers avoid my suffering. I was watching movies and noticed my chips were gone, beer was empty, and only 1 cigarette left in my pack. On top of all these complications, I noticed my cable was cutting in and out because of a storm, and I knew my lighter was running low. What does anyone do? I took a deep breath and stood up... I made my way through a dark hallway to the kitchen... I grabbed 2 beers, a bag of Doritos, a full pack of smokes, and a lighter... But I still had a dark hallway back to my couch, and this time I was carrying a basket of essentials. I dimmed the light in the kitchen, (a decision I later regretted) so that I could navigate the hallway to my living room. I stumbled a bit over an empty Jack Daniels bottle but returned to my couch unharmed. By the time I got back, the storm had passed, and I was safe... But I WILL NEVER leave a whiskey bottle in that hallway again 😢
It could also have been that Roger, upon realising that he wasn't going to make it decided to cut the line in a last ditch attempt to discourage his friend from going back down to affect a dangerous rescue that he himself realised would be futile by the time he would have been found,knowing it would most certainly have led to the death of both of them.
'At that time, the adrenaline wore off and soon turned to panic as TurboKnight865 realised that the air supply in his sweater was running low. His eyesight was blurred...'
OMG me too! Just the other day Idkh but kind of gotten myself STUCK like my arms/elbows idk I was like two secs from panic mode! It's like I couldn't figure it out! Then I looked under the dress that i was trying to get out of & both my dogs Samson & Zoe were sitting there wagging their tales JUST looking at me! I felt so stupid!
When I was young (like 19 or 20) friends & I did a little cave exploring. I remember squeezing, twisting & contorting to make it through a lot of spots. Now I'm 62 and honestly cant believe I/we did that crazy shit! You couldn't get me to do that again for a million $$. Literally, I'm so claustrophobic now I'd lose my mind.
The closest I’ve ever got to actual cave diving was going through an opening of a 20cm thick wall that was slightly underwater to enter an half submerged cave chamber on the coast of south of Italy. It really wasn’t anything crazy, you just needed to pass underneath a very thin wall, it was perfectly safe and the experienced guides even encouraged the tourists to do that to not miss on the beautiful sight on the other side, but even then, the thought of going just a few centimetres underwater to pass under a rock wall (no matter how small it was) was absolutely terrifying to me. Totally worth it tho the cave was stunning
As a local, back in the 1960s, we treated these caves as a playground. As Wiki says, "most of the cave consists of large stream passages which provide easy caving and no specialist equipment is required". As an adult, I shudder at the thought !
Same thing I say!! Watching these I always say "when i was younger!" We were fearless! We played in sewers, caves, under spillways etc. In my older wiser years, you couldn't pay me enough!
Never been in a cave and these videos always help me with not getting any stupid ideas of doing it. I like my space and room to flail around freely if I feel like it.
I’ve been in plenty of caves, the kind with guided tours and random ones I’ve wandered into with friends/family, but cave diving is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of. You’re taking getting lost and dying and adding an extra splash of spicy with the risk of death by drowning. No thanks.
I’ll never understand what people hope to find in a cave. The Loch Ness monster? Another continent? It’s just rocks. Then you flood the rocks and you have a grave waiting for a body. It’s just stupid.
I once explored a very long pothole, it was extremely tight and I crawled for ages trying to find somewhere to turn round, but no luck so I just kept on going. After what seemed like an eternity of crawling I saw a glimmer of light in the distance and that gave me an extra burst of energy to keep going. When I finally reached the light I popped out in a paddy field full of Chinese people so I turned round and crawled back again.
An experienced cave diver knowingly pushed his air limit on the possibility of an air pocket? Unbelievable. Turn around times should be absolute and never pushed. I'm also surprised they didn't create an air cylinder cache if they'd be doing a long and unexplored dive. They knew they needed air to leave the last section too so if they burned it all diving the last section they would trap themselves.
I like to call it "brave stupidity" because it may be brave, but it's an unnecessary risk and frankly, not worth doing. Unless an elixir of immortality or something is waiting down there, there's nothing worth going for.
Obviously I wasn't there, but this Martin guy... Knowing Roger had less air he kept going looking for an air pocket in unexplored caves. Roger followed him, as a good partner would to ensure he didn't get tangled or lost or whatever. Then Martin runs out of air and rushes back which is fair. But then Martin waits an hour to do anything, despite the lack of any air pockets. I can only assume the pain of decompression was too much, but man... An almost silly gamble costing a friend's life in such a horrific way... Wouldn't it be harder to talk about to strangers at the local pub?
I have dreams often of being trapped underwater, and in them I always inevitably end up accepting my fate and breathe in the water expecting to drown. But instead it turns out I can breathe water, and then I remember all the similar dreams where that has happened as if they were all real. It's that that keeps me from doing any scuba diving.
I can not for the life of me understand the thrill explorations of tight confined, uncharted, airless, water filled, unknown, 1999.99% hazardous conditions...underneath earth. AIN'T NO WAY!
A rusted old padlocked door, possible flooding , claustrophobia , a chance to get stuck between rocks , an unending maze of passages. death being a likely outcome. .. . . . . . . what are we waiting for??
But Martyn signaled to Rogers that Rogers should turn back, as he has less oxygen left, while Martyn, with slightly more oxygen would continue himself. It‘s still putting your friend at risk, as you could expect your friend to take a risk in trying to rescue you if something happens to you, but it‘s not like he told his friend to keep on pushing even though he realized their situation.
I dont know whats more terrifying. Going down into a cave like this or worrying someone is going to come along and lock you in thinking no one is in there or doing it on purpose.
The anxiety they felt and nervousness, was their common sense tryna kick in! Why did they go against their gut feel? They will never lead you astray. If something feels wrong it is. Simple. Condolences for his family
RIP Roger! Talk about dicing with death. Hypoxia seems to make people lose all reasoning when it comes to air supply. It's amazing Martin made it back. Thank you MrDeified. Enjoy your weekend 💠
I'm amazed and humbled that you actually bothered to look up how to pronounce something in Welsh. For whatever reason, people don't seem to realise Welsh is a very, very different language to English, with more letters and less vowels, and even a sound found in very few other, unrelated languages (Ll, the voiceless alveolar lateral fricative, only found in Ancient Hebrew and in some Native American languages). It's extremely frustrating to hear people, especially the English, completely botch the pronunciation of Welsh words. It's no harder of a language to speak than any other foreign language, and all it takes is a quick two-minute Google search to verify whether your pronunciation is even vaguely correct. So thank you for at least taking the time to learn how to pronounce Agen Allwedd (even if your Ll needs a little work, I can't blame you for it though, it's a very difficult sound), most wouldn't have bothered.
There is a cave system near my house in Yorkshire and one route is around 100 meters long that takes around half an hour to get through as there is tight spots and steep assents..When I look back me and my friends were stupid as we never told anyone when we went down and only took one torch each..There were times when I got very closterphobic and my friends would turn off there torches saying they had broke only to switch them back on again..This was 40 years ago and I now realise each time we went into the caves we were risking our life’s always tell someone your plans when going caving and don’t do it like we did with no gear or food ..Always be prepared folks ❤
Dont know a lot about that hobby but if you're trying to go somewhere no one went before, could you just make 4-5 trips with air canisters until you have like 10-20 down there and then, go explore (more than one day to bring all them there). Like people do when climbing Everest?
Thats a very smart idea. Unfortunately the people who put themselves in situations like these seem to lack common sense as well as any instinct for self preservation, so it doesnt surprise me they wouldnt plan ahead in that way.
It’s like these divers literally become suicidal in these caves as so many of these stories go- they are completely AWARE they are running out of air, well into their 1/3 of “emergency air” YET they keep going forward. It’s a bizarre phenomenon that happens over n over again! 🤔😱
Years ago on holiday in Portugal i had the opportunity to go caving with a bunch of younger people. 'it might involve some swimming they said.' Nothing happened, but the best thing i have done in my life was deciding not to go with them.
It always seems like this stupidity afflicts entitled people. Like, their day to day life is one without fear (skin color, poverty, etc) so they have to manufacture some sort of adrenaline- and then want to stand out amongst all of the other entitled ones. - by being the FIRST to find something or another. It’s incredibly pathetic. I can just imagine them saying to someone - “you know that UNDERWATER cave in the ocean, right off the 10 and Santa Monica? I’m gonna go in there to see if I can breathe like a fish, and find something to put me at legend status bro.” Tf?
@@assassin8636lol I agree. I have myself done caving twice (far safer circumstances and less challenging places than in these videos) and I probably won’t do it again, but these videos are filled with commenters who likely take unprecedented risks all the time in their own hobbies and life styles and yet they talk so much shit on these videos, particularly towards the dead people. It’s almost as if they don’t realized that deaths like these are in the grand scheme of things rare. I’m sure more people die in equestrian sports or bad practices surrounding heavy machinery in construction work, and in retrospect we can all be like “duh, dumbass why would you ever do x”. Yet they will drive and speed on roads where innocents end up with brains splattered along the road because half of us constantly speed and drive like aggressive psychopaths.
@@assassin8636 well, you don’t know me. And I could care LESS about “looking good.” My observations are not without merit. What I am talking about - is the OBVIOUS. And I said what I said. Period. There are deaths every second of every day. And soon, you and I will be one of them. You want some adrenaline? Just paint your skin a darker hue and then go outside… and breathe. It’ll give you such an “adrenaline buzz.” Pfft. When entitlement drives you to try and conquer nature, or be the first - Mother Earth and this place “laws of physics” will win every time. ;) It’s like being sad because someone CHOSE to play Russian Roulette. I’m not sad. I’m STUNNED. Then onto the next thing. A grilled cheese sandwich or something.
Because they can. Why to go fast, when it might kill you? Why to go to space if it might kill you? Why to build something when it might crumble and kill you?
I am claustrophobic and almost drowned as a child, 35 years later and I’m still not a fan of water, especially putting my head under water and when faced with a crisis/emergency I freeze, flat out freeze, no fight or flight instinct. Definitely NOT an activity I’d ever try but I will say I am very impressed with the mental strength of people who do cave dive. I took one scuba lesson and was amazed I even got through it (it was in a YMCA pool, actually right next to the pool I almost drowned in) Husband used to scuba dive so trying to impress him when we first started dating is the only way I could have done it lol!!
My late mother almost drowned as a child as well. She couldn’t ever have water above her head and never took showers. She took baths only. It made me feel so sad for her.
Despite the entrance door looking horrifying, Aggy is actually a lovely cave to explore. Just after the entrance series (takes 30mins to an hour) and through the first choke it opens up to cathedral sized passages for literal hundreds of meters. Throughout this area there are many crazy mud formations and purple crystals in places. I can't say I've ever dived there (or ever went diving at all) but the passages and chambers are nothing like any of the other caves in the UK. Rest in peace Roger.
Whenever you hear the phrase, "nevertheless, they decided to press on" you know it's going to end badly.
Bro, you ain't wrong 😂😂😂
Nevertheless, I am going to stay on open air land where I can move my body and limbs freely. Am I safe?
@@mfisktonyou've said it all💯
@@mfiskton no Good luck
The 1 guy made it out alive & healthy, so it didn't "end badly" for him.
What’s scarier than being in a dark creepy claustrophobic cave? Being in a dark creepy claustrophobic cave filled with water 😧
whats scarier than being in a dark creepy claustrophobic cave thats filled with water... being in a dark scrrepy claustrophobic cave filled with water with a limited and fast depleting air supply... and then... whats scarier than all of that shit....
a gotdam dark creepy claustrophobic cave full of water with your bois lifeless corpse floating there....
Say no to drugs and no to cave diving....😢
There was this guy in a cave called Nutty Putty he went head first into a downward facing hole and slowly suffocated. Took him 72 hours to die
@Dovakhin94 John Jones. I tried to flip myself upside down between my bed and my wall in the position he was to see what it felt like. I lasted barely 2 minutes.
@@Dovakhin94 27-28 hours if I recall, not 72 hours. He died from a cardiac arrest. I mean even animals die when they are upside down, humans are not different.
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You know this cave is not messing around when theres literally a part called “against all odds chamber” 💀
Right beside everybody’s dead alcove…
In all these videos all the damn caves have parts with names who give shivers. I cant understand how people go here.
Might as well put a sign "abandon all hope ye who enters here"
@@LtCommanderTatothe people who went into the DEVILS HOLE… like bffr bruh
It was named that after the incident. It was uncharted prior to Roger's death.
Number 1 rule of cave diving: Never go cave diving.
Number 2 . Never go caving ( on land)
I'd going into a cave and walk around, but the second you got to lay on your belly, I'm Out.
@@SQRL_TACI mean even then like what’s so fascinating about rocks. Like your in one? It’s just all rock and wet and lame lmao.
It's like talking about fight club you just don't do cave diving
@@alche209rocks are cool and bats are cute. You can't look at a stalagmite and tell me it's not stalagtight.
You know what never ceases to amaze me? How people can ignore that gut feeling that tells that maybe they shouldn't.
Old saying my father told me. "Humans are the dumbest animals in the world. We're the only ones that ignore our instincts." lmao.
Always follow your instincts. Always!
Am guilty of this when it came to my old job. Got fired for having my phone out lol.
What amazes me is the fact that they saw the clear sign of warning, ignored it, had a bad feeling, ignored that too... those guys deserve what gets them.
Stay out of caves, unless you're a bear or a cougar; or if underwater, a fish.
How he just pressed on like that knowing his oxygen was so low is downright suicidal.
Yes and insane.
Natural selection at its finest.
That's the Welsh for you, we're just metal 😎🤘🏴 (and, maybe slightly suicidal pahahaha)
There are several factors at work. Especially since the amount of time you have on a given air supply isn't linear. Air usage can easily double and tripple when exerting yourself. So it's mostly overconfidence in being able to limit air usage.
At least they used re-breathers (assuming the shown footage is accurate).
@@chickennugget3325 Understandable, have a great day!
I'm from the Great Plains. One thing we learn at an early age is to never assume that there has to be another gas station just up ahead.
Haha or as a parent, never assume there’s another clean bathroom up ahead, pee while you have the chance!
'cause it's a helluva lot further down the road than ya think and hotter than it looks!
Yup. That's the start of a horror movie. Don't do it.
Sounds like a place where when giving directions include ‘turn left off of the paved road’
Some things just pull on you. Ignore them if you must, but you will die with desire burning in your heart.
I’m pleased to say there’s absolutely no amount of money in the world that could ever persuade me to go cave diving.
Are you sure about that lol
10 million $ if you're going into a beginner cave with guidance of an experienced groupe?
there is no such thing as a beginners cave, people can drown in a kiddy pool when in enough panic.
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@@bwb3881no thanks! My life is worth more than 10 million. I’ve jumped out of planes/ helicopters almost 100 times and I wouldn’t go cave diving at all.
I dont care how unfulfilled I feel, i will never in my life ever consider cave diving. There is too much room for error
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It just seems so pointless to me like its a cave..full of water..theres nothing to even see or do in there like looking at the footage i'm thinking why do these guys even want to go through these caves in the first place, if your going to do a super dangerous hobby do something better than swimming around a dank cave idk.
Or not enough room for error? 🤔
Cave diving and sky diving and going in the ocean and the Amazon isn’t worth it
Let alone a cave that has a tunnel "Against all Odds" 2:08
Always fascinates me in these videos how often they seem to disregard the amount of air they have left.
I'm all caught up..I cant live without you.... Air Supply
To be fair, if they all cared about the amount of air supply they had left, many of these stories wouldn't have ended tragically, so we wouldn't hear about these stories
@@francis7336 Survivor Bias (well I mean, you get it). We only hear of those who die, not the thousands others that take it seriously and never put themselves in danger like that.
@@maxentirunos Exactly
You'd think they'd treat air limits as sacred but they break them over and over
Something about crawling into your tomb without knowing until it's too late is unsettling.
This is very Sad😢 Not Knowing You're Crawling into your Grave😢 and yes Very Unsettling😢
Very well said, William.
I mean we are technically dealing with that with our daily lives. We never know when we will die.
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@@chamomiletea4549Nah, technically no. Big difference.
When he said “ his body is still in there” that hit me. Imagine being right outside the cave where your best friend died and is currently in right now
And it strongly being caused by your judgement
They almost always leave the bodies in the cave. They're just going back in the ground once exhumed anyway.
only the bones
Who died rojer or Martin??
@@Sara-nj7oxRodger
I think it's amazing that the only truly legitimate reason to learn to cave dive is to have the skills to save people stuck in a cave.
This
Well put!!!! I wanted to give that same opinion and voice, but what i had to say would have been way too brash and cold. Then id have all kinds od people calling me a prick, blah blah lol.
I absolutely agree, as they initially have zero reason for insane survival antics, they… never mind.
Thank you for saying it right, and my heart goes out to the families of all these tragedies. It’s just awful.
Lots of natural wonders down there. Some species of animal are only found in a single cave system.
Curiosity drives people to do amazing things.
Exploration 🎉
More like to retrieve the bodies....
My husband asked me how am I able to watch every one of your videos without panicking (i have anxious mood disorder) and it took me a couple seconds to think about it. Turns out these tragic situations are 100% preventable. I'll never go cave diving. Problem solved. No need to stress 🎉
No amount of money, let alone vain pride will get me to go cave diving
I agree. I don't have a mood disorder (as far as I know.) I just consider myself extremely cautious with a strong desire to keep on living!
I just finished binging on Everest expeditions. I already finished off bunches of serial killer videos. Now I am working my way through cave divers.
These things don't worry me because I know 100% I will never do this stuff!
💜💜
Somehow they still stress me TF out. And I don't even have an anxiety disorder.
@xcaliber302 id do it for like 10k usd and simply not be stupid lmaoooo
Martin: Checks air supply. It’s not good. Decides to keep going.
Darwin Award
he survived tho
Sad thing is his friend paid the price for this dumb move, not him. The lack of air forced Martin to have to exit solo and not as a team leaving his friend behind to get stuck and die basically
not really@@Nitro192192
@@Nitro192192 Actually it's not his fault. Roger was supposed to go back much earlier. Had he done so when instructed they would have both escaped.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What I really don’t understand with cave divers: Martin knew he didn’t have air left in his third tank. Then why the hell he would still choose to go on instead of turning back? Even if he found an air pocket, he still needed air to turn all the way back. Like that are they thinking?
The brain cell required to make that calculation basically gone the moment they decided to enter the cave.
Hypoxia
Nitrogen narcosis? Is that possible at 70ft?
@@dannyryanlannon784 you´re under nitrogen narcosis the whole dive..even at 5m..but symptons real impact start from 30m/100ft and from about 300ft/90m you´re in serious serious danger
Most cave divers follow a very strict plan and will abort the dive very quickly if something goes wrong, these two just disregarded almost all of the rules.
Does anyone else see these openings less than a foot by two feet and just think "Nope, That would never happen to me, i'm too afraid to go into a hyper claustraphobic semi-flooding cave".
Yeah this cave gets a hard pass from me. As do all caves. Hmm I wonder... What if... Nope, hard pass.
Every. Single. Time I watch one of these videos I'm like nope...will never be me lol
Yes, don’t get it. And don’t have so much sympathy because look, they’re not afraid to go in and face such danger. Love the videos though, just don’t get why you’d enter somewhere like that.,
If I think about it too much, I already get the creeps just sitting here on the couch 😅
Never going underground, period. Nope.
"If you're not afraid to get stuck." That leaves me out.
Exactly
I won't even go under our bed to get whatever the cats put there, I use the curtain rod or a broom 😅
Honestly caving tragedies leave me uncomfortable because while I know its heartbreaking i can't stop thinking why would anyone push the limits when they could always come back again to extend the exploration when they were better prepared. Its often said we need to recognize our limitations but when you have a literal guage that is telling you you're not going to make it out alive but press on anyway??? Thats just a Darwin Award.
I think the exact same thing. To me it makes no sense. It's not like they're getting some kinda reward, they're barely getting bragging rights because any normal person is gonna just think they're crazy to do this kind of stuff. I fully 100% do no understand what would drive someone to do this
Even though I'd never do it, I can understand it's to do with the thrill. Like imagine standing near some specific cliff but only a select few go right to its edge to see what's on the bottom of the cliff. You kinda want to go to the edge to see what's all the excitement about and only so people go to the edge. You know it's risky but you reckon you can make it back safely, even if a sudden gust of wind might push you over, you think you can withstand the wind.
RIGHT ??? That's what I keep saying ! 🤦♀️
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And it's not like the cave is going to disappear too. The only problem is when you're on a journey and you have a limited amount of time before going back home but this is still not a good reason to take such a risk...
@Hazan12345 I suppose... but I can't imagine it's the same thrill as, say, a rollercoaster, where it's fast and you're restrained. I also can't imagine it's the same thrill as rock climbing, which even though it's similarly technical and dangerous, it *can* be pretty quick, it's usually not dark and claustrophobic, etc. Maybe this is just proof I'm not the caving type 😂
When diving underwater, air is as important to have as a parachute is to a skydiver. So why chance running out of it? If you have 3 tanks, act like there are 2 and head back when the first one runs out. He was on E and drove into the mountains looking for a gas station.
Absolutely completely agree, continuing on for fun with no air is just a suicide run.
That’s one of the rules certified divers learn! I’m a certified scuba diver, not cave diver, but I’ve even been told that in my regular scuba diving classes.
Rule of 3rds. 1/3 of your air supply to go down, 1/3 of your supply to get out, and 1/3 on reserve.
Exactly and the 3rd tank can be used as an emergency tank if you or someone else gets tangled in a line or if you get stuck for a moment.
Pretty sure air is always that important, even if you're not diving underwater
Whenever you are exploring an unfamiliar environment, always stop every 20 seconds or so, just to take a good look behind you. Most people don't seem to realize that on your way back, the environment will look completely unfamiliar as it is in reverse.
Cringe.
An evil witch has casted a sinister cringe spell upon thee. But dont fret, i cast counter-spell. The day is saved! Thatll be $100...
"Expert Cave Diver", A.K.A a survivor.
Also aka lucky...but all.luck runs out
"expert cave divers" - dead stock
"All cave divers are experts. Because the ones that weren't are all dead."
@@lameyeast7085 “All cave divers are nuts. Because you must be crazy to try such.”
@@dubyabalthazar4598 well to be a survivor you also need luck.
I'm on my couch with a cup of coffee and my dog.
This is the height of excitement for me, and I'm good with that.
Cave diving sounds terrifying.
And dumb
You WILL go in the cave...or go to prison ....
Closest to going in cavern for me Are the national parks that are well lit well traveled well known. And going on a tour with large groups of people.
Couch lounging will kill. I always secure a guideline to the fridge.
@@fumanpoo4725 Never, and I mean absolutely never risk going below 3 extra beers beside your couch, you just might risk death by thirst if you do
I have a theory. What if Roger ran out of air and cut the rope. Why? Because he knew his bestfriend would come looking for him and have to use the air meant for the travel back. He knew once Martin noticed the line was cut he’d go back, thus saving himself.
This makes a lot of sense. Remember Rodger had smaller air cylinders
I think one can measure that distance to find him by the length of the cut line
I thought this too. 🤔
What's frightening about cave diving is getting caught in a cave collapse, running out of air, dying alone, and the cave becoming your tomb/grave. Nope I'll pass on this one.
Yeah, better do sky diving so i wont stuck forever
@@kangmintaid3970And if your parachute fails, you have the rest of your life to fix it
What's frightening about cave diving is.... everything about it.
Oh like the Nutty Putty cave where the guy wound up stuck upside down for 27 hours before dying...
Or just caving, a la John Jones. :(
Can you imagine going for a couple mile run in the woods but only having a certain amount of time to get back to the starting point otherwise you die? Well, the same idea but underwater in a cave is cave diving! This along with millions of unseen potential hazards. These people must be on the high end of the spectrum of crazy.
And worse they put other rescuers at risk. Like why
And then deciding to run an extra half mile because there might be a great view.
Why don't they put on a light, camera on a big fish and let it swin in this cave so that they can capture or learn the cave instead of venturing themselves ? These days LIDAR could be used.
@@mageshmac4716 think this was before the benefits of modern technology buddy. Also, at the pressures of the depths these guys dove in there are not even that many modern camras that would survive. most modern tech is only water proofed in known pure distilled water up to 2 meters. This is not pure water that could potentially react to the seals and also went much further than 2 meters. most water proof devices would fail unless specifically designed to do exactly this.
@@oceanbytez847 yes this incident was long back.. but I am suggesting for modern tech at current times.. cave exploration is not giving any 'immediate benefits' to humans except geological expansion.. whatever it be, need not risk human lives to explore it.. water drones could be used.. or trained aquatic animals could be used instead of humans..
There are only two levels of cave diver.
1) Expert
2) Former expert.
3rd Chicken’s like me who watch
@@bluelava4282 I'd say posessing a self-preservation instinct isn't being chicken
@@bluelava4282 I used to jump out of airplanes in the army and there is absolutely no way I would ever do this cave stuff.
@@go0dy338 brave
I would argue there is also the level of non expert, but due to extremely short half-life, they are overlooked.
This channel has reassured me that staying above ground and water is where the good Lord intended me to be lol. What some of these folks do is wild!
I Know Right
if you really want to freak out then you should search for edd soerensen and listen to his cave diving rescue and body recovery stories... that man really must have a screw loose somewhere to be able to do what he does!
Stay out of (submerged) holes.
Amen.
The lord may want you on land, but even hell isn't under water.
Even old Lucy knows how dangerous water is.
They kinda idolise Gollum or something, I swear.
I've been a scuba diver for 20 years. I can count the number of times I've been cave diving on a zero. I like being able to return home as a living person. Not staying in a cave as a corpse.
How do you do it? What makes you wanna stay under? Is it a rush?
@@suzied4270he has never been cave diving he said
I once read there are 'bold' divers and 'old' divers, but not 'old bold' divers. Case in point here.
The words "cave" and "diving" simply do not go together. EVER.
Biden and POTUS
Kentucky and anything requiring correct spelling and grammar
Josh McDaniels and head coach
Peyton and Heisman
Is there a character limit?
No @@OntheEighthDay
Not at all
I'd go cave diving if I could. These places look majestic, mysterious and otherworldly. I completely understand why people do it.
All this training and determination just to die after the LITERAL AIR GAUGE told you to get the fuck out
I don't know why I am addicted to watching these caving disasters. I am claustrophobic and sometimes have to turn the videos off or pause because it makes my anxiety increase. I can sometimes imagine it is me and it gives me chills
Thought I was the only one who had to pause throughout the videos😅
@@Calli-kw3qz no. Lol 😅 I can barely watch some of them. I am a pussy when it comes to claustrophobic places. 🤣
@DouglasSnodgrass I honestly don't get it. Just them showing the small entrances to these caves causes anxiety, so I know if I were actually there at the opening, I'd start freaking out trying to get the heck away from there😄I'd be a liability at the entrance 🤣
@@Calli-kw3qz lol. We both would be a liability. I think my paranoia started about 5-6 years old. My uncle and his friend blocked me in a tunnel with no way out. I was rescued a few hours later but it left a imprint on my subconscious mind.
I’ve never considered myself to be claustrophobic, but these cave diving videos sure bring out that fear. The idea of doing this in a tight space while underwater with a slowly diminishing air supply is terrifying.
Yes me too!
Add unexplored and darkness to the mix and the risk of floods by rain.
you should check out the stories of edd soerensen, he is a cave rescue and body recovery diver.
along with claustrophobic tight caves getting stuck, running out of air, dark muddy water with close to zero visibility, you can add panicked divers trying to drown him, dead bodies, decaying dead bodies, the man invented his own harness to go around the bodies so they wont fall apart as he pulls them out, and in one of his stories he describes feeling around for a body in what he called the "blood layer"... apparently in a cave with still standing water the body starts to desolve and its fluids just leak out and remain floating around the body for a long time.
the man is absolutely insane!
Lucky for you, you're one of those people (like myself) with common sense; not everyone has it!
Fear of heights and tight spaces and drowning in deep sea is natural for humankind and animals as well. It's called self preservation. Phobias are probably just more excessive versions
iv been on a cave disaster binge for the last 3 days
Me too! Can’t stop watching these vids!
It’s addictive.xx
Same!
Us moment
Samee
So he knew he was running out of air but kept going? Darwin Award.
“Tragedy”
I very rarely ever comment on anything on RUclips in all the years I've had an account. This is personal though as my family were friends of both Roger and Martyn. Both my Dad and Grandfather were cavers here in South Wales and members of various caving clubs, unfortunately my Dad is now in his 60's and Grandfather 90's, their caving days long since done.
I grew up listening to this set of circumstances that led to Roger Solari's loss. From my understanding he was sitting in my grandparents living room only a week or so before he passed away as he was discussing with my Dad on teaching him to dive. My Dad was a good caver in his day but wanted to progress and learn cave diving.
Some of the older local cavers who've seen this may possibly recognise my last name, Webb, and remember who my Dad and Grandfather are. My Dad was also the first man down what was believed to be at the time, the deepest cave in Europe, and was on the TV back in the day although briefly!
Very good documentary though MrDeified, lots of respect to you covering these tragedies.
May you forever rest in peace Roger and your name be remembered in caving for decades to come.
Praying for you all 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Do you care dive, or cave as well?
Is there any chance martin cut the line for oxygen supply and killed Roger? I mean how do you not find his body in a narrow one way cave?
@@aldenpadilla1773it's simply hard and too dangerous to be worth it
Lol what a comment
You ever ask him why he does an activity so idiotic?
I used to go caving a lot until one day, I found out that a teenager who lived 7 miles from my house died in the cave we went in all the time. The same cave. Cave diving is even worse and so if you ever get a horrible feeling that maybe you should turn back...turn back.
What cave was it? How/why did he die?
This is basically the Nutty Putty incident, but underwater
It never ceases to amaze me how many people treat things like diving as if it's just a stroll around town. Pushing yourself to walk a couple extra blocks when you're tired is one thing but when you literally have a finite amount of air available there is no pushing yourself just a little further. Deciding you want to explore just a little longer isn't going to make more oxygen suddenly appear.
I've come to the conclusion that cave divers have a death wish.
That cave is a 2 hour drive from me and I can assure you I will never go there
I totally agree with you. After seeing the claustrophobic pictures I don’t even want to try to understand, why someone could do this kind of shit on purpose.
@@melodi7947probably to see areas that has yet to be explored by anyone else
I agree. I think you have to accept death while doing this. If you are truly afraid of dying I can’t imagine you would do this
@@kosmosXcannon Which I grant sounds fascinating. But still
@kosmosXcannon, yes, but what's the thrill of finding a new brown walled claustrophobic passage? Wow. No way.
I just don't get the fascination with exploring these suffocating horrible places.
I do. These places look majestic, mysterious and otherworldly. It's exciting to be in a place where you're not naturally supposed to be and see something other than the mundane things that you're used to every day.
Going into my crawl space for home maintenance is adventurous enough for me
did you make it back safely
I hate it when that happens...& one of my pipes just sprung a leak, so I'll soon be having to do just that... but that causes me more than enough stress & distress as I think I need in my life...
We have some missing insulation in a section of our crawl space-- about 2' tall in that section.
My husband wants us to fix this ourselves.He says I need to think of this as an adventure. Seriously.
@@cherfromtn8225 I've done that...Thou I didn't drag my wife me lol; just don't think about the spiders lurking about 😕
Agreed,or going under the sheets of your bed in your childhood
Can we as human beings just agree to stop wedging our bodies into little cracks in the earth’s crust? No? Alright then.
I want to share my experience and hope that what I share will help my readers avoid my suffering.
I was watching movies and noticed my chips were gone, beer was empty, and only 1 cigarette left in my pack. On top of all these complications, I noticed my cable was cutting in and out because of a storm, and I knew my lighter was running low.
What does anyone do?
I took a deep breath and stood up...
I made my way through a dark hallway to the kitchen...
I grabbed 2 beers, a bag of Doritos, a full pack of smokes, and a lighter...
But I still had a dark hallway back to my couch, and this time I was carrying a basket of essentials.
I dimmed the light in the kitchen, (a decision I later regretted) so that I could navigate the hallway to my living room.
I stumbled a bit over an empty Jack Daniels bottle but returned to my couch unharmed.
By the time I got back, the storm had passed, and I was safe...
But I WILL NEVER leave a whiskey bottle in that hallway again 😢
hahahahahah...thats hilarious...u should write a book
😅
i really like it when you show maps! :)
Glad you like them!
There’s a website called “Cave Atlas” that has maps for most of the caves that have been documented in the US.
It could also have been that Roger, upon realising that he wasn't going to make it decided to cut the line in a last ditch attempt to discourage his friend from going back down to affect a dangerous rescue that he himself realised would be futile by the time he would have been found,knowing it would most certainly have led to the death of both of them.
Thinking the same here.
I'm thinking the same as well.
*effect
that was my first thought when he said that
In a darkest scenario, Martin was the one to cut the rope 💀
why do i keep watching these videos before bed
Right me too
I'm watching in bed too and so glad I'm warm and dry ,watching this gives me shivers
Same
Everyone they say something like "they couldn't give up", i immediately start punching the air. YES, YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN GIVE UP!! WTH, MAN.
But muh clout muh bragging rights.
Well I guess they got their legacy.
these people think they're main characters who're always gonna be ok in the end.
I panic when I get stuck taking off my sweater.
SAME!!!!
I've literally cut myself out of a dress I couldn't get off bc I was panicking lol
'At that time, the adrenaline wore off and soon turned to panic as TurboKnight865 realised that the air supply in his sweater was running low. His eyesight was blurred...'
same 😭
OMG me too! Just the other day Idkh but kind of gotten myself STUCK like my arms/elbows idk I was like two secs from panic mode! It's like I couldn't figure it out! Then I looked under the dress that i was trying to get out of & both my dogs Samson & Zoe were sitting there wagging their tales JUST looking at me! I felt so stupid!
When I was young (like 19 or 20) friends & I did a little cave exploring. I remember squeezing, twisting & contorting to make it through a lot of spots. Now I'm 62 and honestly cant believe I/we did that crazy shit! You couldn't get me to do that again for a million $$. Literally, I'm so claustrophobic now I'd lose my mind.
Just when I start to think about what I'd do in this situation, I remember that I'd never go cave diving to begin with. Problem solved.
Exactly😢 I'm Getting Chills How Scary And😢Sad😢
Whenever I feel useless I watch these videos just to remember that I am safer in my home than doing these crazy so called adventurous stuff...
Every time I don't go cave diving i never have this problem.
New life hack
The closest I’ve ever got to actual cave diving was going through an opening of a 20cm thick wall that was slightly underwater to enter an half submerged cave chamber on the coast of south of Italy.
It really wasn’t anything crazy, you just needed to pass underneath a very thin wall, it was perfectly safe and the experienced guides even encouraged the tourists to do that to not miss on the beautiful sight on the other side, but even then, the thought of going just a few centimetres underwater to pass under a rock wall (no matter how small it was) was absolutely terrifying to me.
Totally worth it tho the cave was stunning
As a local, back in the 1960s, we treated these caves as a playground. As Wiki says, "most of the cave consists of large stream passages which provide easy caving and no specialist equipment is required". As an adult, I shudder at the thought !
So many children thriller I read filled with caving and diving and they were so fascinating as you can always outsmart the bad guys....😅
@@Igaming2574 Any examples? I'm curious
@@DoratTheKillerTom Sawyer (or Huck Finn) gets lost in a cave system iirc.
Same thing I say!! Watching these I always say "when i was younger!" We were fearless! We played in sewers, caves, under spillways etc. In my older wiser years, you couldn't pay me enough!
Never been in a cave and these videos always help me with not getting any stupid ideas of doing it. I like my space and room to flail around freely if I feel like it.
I like the oxygen
Exactly! Perfectly said
I’ve been in plenty of caves, the kind with guided tours and random ones I’ve wandered into with friends/family, but cave diving is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of. You’re taking getting lost and dying and adding an extra splash of spicy with the risk of death by drowning. No thanks.
Me too.
That makes me want to flail around freely just for the heck of it.
The people who goes to attempt to rescue these people are truly remarkable and the definition of altruistic 👌🏾❤️
I’ll never understand what people hope to find in a cave. The Loch Ness monster? Another continent? It’s just rocks. Then you flood the rocks and you have a grave waiting for a body. It’s just stupid.
I once explored a very long pothole, it was extremely tight and I crawled for ages trying to find somewhere to turn round, but no luck so I just kept on going. After what seemed like an eternity of crawling I saw a glimmer of light in the distance and that gave me an extra burst of energy to keep going. When I finally reached the light I popped out in a paddy field full of Chinese people so I turned round and crawled back again.
@@frankclough380 Good one! Thanks for the chuckle.
@@frankclough380😆😆😊😂😂😂👍🏻
@@frankclough380 hahahahahaha
'Gee, getting pretty low on air down here, but I'm sure there is a treasure trove of air cylinders at the end of this passage.'
Just hearing about the Nutty Putty tragedy gives me goosebumps. This guy took the challenge to the next level by diving?
An experienced cave diver knowingly pushed his air limit on the possibility of an air pocket? Unbelievable. Turn around times should be absolute and never pushed.
I'm also surprised they didn't create an air cylinder cache if they'd be doing a long and unexplored dive. They knew they needed air to leave the last section too so if they burned it all diving the last section they would trap themselves.
As 95% of cave driving deaths go, people get overly cocky and take stupid risks.
Man I wouldn't even push my luck looking for an air pocket in Minecraft let alone if my actual life was on the line.
10:26 They decided strategically to leave
Me: *sigh of relief*
Them: …to leave their gear behind 😅
There isn't even something interesting to see. You go through all of this struggle to see what? Rock, dirt and more rock 🤷♂
Exactly. At least in skydiving you get a cool view and if you die, its not by being stuck between a rock and a hard place lol
what I like about walking the beach is all that free oxygen!
The light and proximity to food snd water are also a plus.xx
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I'd rather die in a cave than try to get all the sand out of my back pack again. It took years.
@@dickjohnson9582 😂😂😘
@@dickjohnson9582 some sand is stickier due to it's rough surfaces. Round sand rolls.
I don’t know whether this is brave or stupid. All I know is my anxiety is thru the roof
Ditto 😮
It's definitely stupid because it's not necessary. The rescuers are the brave ones.
Not even close to brave. Not even close.
@@bushybwoy bingo.
I like to call it "brave stupidity" because it may be brave, but it's an unnecessary risk and frankly, not worth doing.
Unless an elixir of immortality or something is waiting down there, there's nothing worth going for.
I'm addicted to watching these🤦🏽♀️
It’s terrifying, anyone behind you could be a cork between you and the outside
I'm safe from dying in a cave. Too fat and unhealthy to even consider going.
Also won't get murdered hiking or going for a run either! Hell no!
@@OoMASEoO fat people are harder to kidnap! Hand me the chocolate and noone gets hurt.xx😂
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@@susanlansdell863
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I might be slim but same ! Hand me the chocolate, hurry up ! 😂🍫🍬
Obviously I wasn't there, but this Martin guy... Knowing Roger had less air he kept going looking for an air pocket in unexplored caves. Roger followed him, as a good partner would to ensure he didn't get tangled or lost or whatever. Then Martin runs out of air and rushes back which is fair. But then Martin waits an hour to do anything, despite the lack of any air pockets.
I can only assume the pain of decompression was too much, but man... An almost silly gamble costing a friend's life in such a horrific way... Wouldn't it be harder to talk about to strangers at the local pub?
It blows my mind how often I watch these despite being terrified of the idea of being in a tight space underwater.
Honestly same
@@Feathery_friendme too, are we ill? 🤔
I have dreams often of being trapped underwater, and in them I always inevitably end up accepting my fate and breathe in the water expecting to drown. But instead it turns out I can breathe water, and then I remember all the similar dreams where that has happened as if they were all real. It's that that keeps me from doing any scuba diving.
I can not for the life of me understand the thrill explorations of tight confined, uncharted, airless, water filled, unknown, 1999.99% hazardous conditions...underneath earth. AIN'T NO WAY!
Well of course not because you're a normal person just like me
Cave diving: dangerous
Cave divers: encounter danger
Cave divers: 😮
A rusted old padlocked door, possible flooding , claustrophobia , a chance to get stuck between rocks , an unending maze of passages. death being a likely outcome. .. . . . . . . what are we waiting for??
i do like caves. big caves where you can walk around with a group and a tour guide. i don’t know what’s so fun about lonely tiny deep caves…
This is my ideal cave.
It something about the thrill of “going somewhere nobody has been before” but all that’s there is rocks. Yeah, such an accomplishment
Every time I open one of these videos, two seconds in I think “nope, cannot even imagine. Can’t watch.”
Not the kind of friend you want to have. He was concerned about his air and knew that his friend had less air than him but continued.
But Martyn signaled to Rogers that Rogers should turn back, as he has less oxygen left, while Martyn, with slightly more oxygen would continue himself. It‘s still putting your friend at risk, as you could expect your friend to take a risk in trying to rescue you if something happens to you, but it‘s not like he told his friend to keep on pushing even though he realized their situation.
The unexplainable anxiety they encounter is a premonition that something will go wrong. They should have trusted their gut at that time.
Thank you for not having a 2 minute intro and just getting straight to the point. Imma sub for that
These videos are always terrifying. Why i'll never go cave diving even if someone tried to convince me it'd make me even more no.
I dont know whats more terrifying. Going down into a cave like this or worrying someone is going to come along and lock you in thinking no one is in there or doing it on purpose.
The simple fact that you brought the last one up tells me you have family and friends like mine.
@@athenathegreatandpowerful6365i would lock someone in there and leave lmao
@@damianluther7191 Who is this "someone"
This one left me with the chills. Maaaan how would you just go into your grave so willingly? Never ever going cave diving or viewing.
Some doors should remain closed and locked.
💯💯
hairs in my neck stands up just by looking the footage of caves filled with water, let alone seeing a person diving through it.
The anxiety they felt and nervousness, was their common sense tryna kick in! Why did they go against their gut feel? They will never lead you astray. If something feels wrong it is. Simple. Condolences for his family
RIP Roger! Talk about dicing with death. Hypoxia seems to make people lose all reasoning when it comes to air supply. It's amazing Martin made it back. Thank you MrDeified. Enjoy your weekend 💠
I'm amazed and humbled that you actually bothered to look up how to pronounce something in Welsh. For whatever reason, people don't seem to realise Welsh is a very, very different language to English, with more letters and less vowels, and even a sound found in very few other, unrelated languages (Ll, the voiceless alveolar lateral fricative, only found in Ancient Hebrew and in some Native American languages). It's extremely frustrating to hear people, especially the English, completely botch the pronunciation of Welsh words. It's no harder of a language to speak than any other foreign language, and all it takes is a quick two-minute Google search to verify whether your pronunciation is even vaguely correct. So thank you for at least taking the time to learn how to pronounce Agen Allwedd (even if your Ll needs a little work, I can't blame you for it though, it's a very difficult sound), most wouldn't have bothered.
It’s incredible that humans have mapped parts of the underground
I sincerely appreciate that you show the cave maps. I can't watch these types of videos without them.
A cave map in just two dimensions seems worse than useless….
Best way to stop yourself from drowning in a cave is never going to one in the first place.
Best way to stop yourself from dying, Is to not exist in the first place
There is a cave system near my house in Yorkshire and one route is around 100 meters long that takes around half an hour to get through as there is tight spots and steep assents..When I look back me and my friends were stupid as we never told anyone when we went down and only took one torch each..There were times when I got very closterphobic and my friends would turn off there torches saying they had broke only to switch them back on again..This was 40 years ago and I now realise each time we went into the caves we were risking our life’s always tell someone your plans when going caving and don’t do it like we did with no gear or food ..Always be prepared folks ❤
Dont know a lot about that hobby but if you're trying to go somewhere no one went before, could you just make 4-5 trips with air canisters until you have like 10-20 down there and then, go explore (more than one day to bring all them there). Like people do when climbing Everest?
I keep thinking this to be honest.
And yeah, its probably isnt cheap but how much do you value your own life?
Thats a very smart idea. Unfortunately the people who put themselves in situations like these seem to lack common sense as well as any instinct for self preservation, so it doesnt surprise me they wouldnt plan ahead in that way.
It’s like these divers literally become suicidal in these caves as so many of these stories go- they are completely AWARE they are running out of air, well into their 1/3 of “emergency air” YET they keep going forward. It’s a bizarre phenomenon that happens over n over again! 🤔😱
it’s called nitrogen narcosis lol
@MargotPorter-q1odef just too much co2 in the blood
Years ago on holiday in Portugal i had the opportunity to go caving with a bunch of younger people. 'it might involve some swimming they said.' Nothing happened, but the best thing i have done in my life was deciding not to go with them.
why the best thing? They didn't enjoy it or what.
@@sharinglanguagehe probably thought he would just be mummified in the cave
The amount of tech we have to explore without putting humans in danger and people like this still do it for thrills.
Or to be just the “first” at something.
It always seems like this stupidity afflicts entitled people. Like, their day to day life is one without fear (skin color, poverty, etc) so they have to manufacture some sort of adrenaline- and then want to stand out amongst all of the other entitled ones. - by being the FIRST to find something or another. It’s incredibly pathetic. I can just imagine them saying to someone - “you know that UNDERWATER cave in the ocean, right off the 10 and Santa Monica? I’m gonna go in there to see if I can breathe like a fish, and find something to put me at legend status bro.”
Tf?
@solomoon3083 aren't you being a little negative like you're talking shit about this guy death and that's supposed to make you look good?
@@assassin8636lol I agree. I have myself done caving twice (far safer circumstances and less challenging places than in these videos) and I probably won’t do it again, but these videos are filled with commenters who likely take unprecedented risks all the time in their own hobbies and life styles and yet they talk so much shit on these videos, particularly towards the dead people. It’s almost as if they don’t realized that deaths like these are in the grand scheme of things rare. I’m sure more people die in equestrian sports or bad practices surrounding heavy machinery in construction work, and in retrospect we can all be like “duh, dumbass why would you ever do x”. Yet they will drive and speed on roads where innocents end up with brains splattered along the road because half of us constantly speed and drive like aggressive psychopaths.
@@assassin8636 well, you don’t know me. And I could care LESS about “looking good.” My observations are not without merit. What I am talking about - is the OBVIOUS. And I said what I said. Period. There are deaths every second of every day. And soon, you and I will be one of them. You want some adrenaline? Just paint your skin a darker hue and then go outside… and breathe. It’ll give you such an “adrenaline buzz.” Pfft. When entitlement drives you to try and conquer nature, or be the first - Mother Earth and this place “laws of physics” will win every time. ;) It’s like being sad because someone CHOSE to play Russian Roulette. I’m not sad. I’m STUNNED. Then onto the next thing. A grilled cheese sandwich or something.
Why bro, why go and explore caves that there's nothing except danger at every corner that can kill you, just blows my mind
Because they can. Why to go fast, when it might kill you? Why to go to space if it might kill you? Why to build something when it might crumble and kill you?
I am claustrophobic and almost drowned as a child, 35 years later and I’m still not a fan of water, especially putting my head under water and when faced with a crisis/emergency I freeze, flat out freeze, no fight or flight instinct. Definitely NOT an activity I’d ever try but I will say I am very impressed with the mental strength of people who do cave dive. I took one scuba lesson and was amazed I even got through it (it was in a YMCA pool, actually right next to the pool I almost drowned in) Husband used to scuba dive so trying to impress him when we first started dating is the only way I could have done it lol!!
My late mother almost drowned as a child as well. She couldn’t ever have water above her head and never took showers. She took baths only. It made me feel so sad for her.
@@PumpkinPatchVintageexperiencing shit as a child really gets u bad
Despite the entrance door looking horrifying, Aggy is actually a lovely cave to explore. Just after the entrance series (takes 30mins to an hour) and through the first choke it opens up to cathedral sized passages for literal hundreds of meters. Throughout this area there are many crazy mud formations and purple crystals in places. I can't say I've ever dived there (or ever went diving at all) but the passages and chambers are nothing like any of the other caves in the UK. Rest in peace Roger.
I think all cavers are genuinely insane
This was so avoidable. The lack of self-preservation is astounding.
These videos make me anxious, yet I keep coming back for more.
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that's the same with me and caving tbh
Same lmaooo