No matter what level of drumming I get to, or am at, I will always click on "beginner" videos done by a professional, especially you. You never know what teeny thing you overlooked when starting out, and to be given free knowledge, why not give a watch, there's no downside.
Absolutely. I guess I can call myself an advanced drummer, as I know enough to teach beginners, but Ive never really _locked in_ any of the numerous disciplines in drums to actually think of myself as someone even approaching a pro. Therefore Im always hoping that I can find pros talking about what issues I have with my own playing, and Rob has helped in that instance quite a lot. Also, basically all the rookie mistakes Rob described here are something I see most of the time, and sometimes its easy to correct, and sometimes its not. I cant tell you enough how discouraging it can feel to fail at teaching one kid proper grip for months, despite the fact Ive successfully taught other kids using the same approach. Just like Rob said, though, its not the kids fault, as it mostly has to do with how naturally coordinated they are, as well as if their personality can handle concentrating on a repetitive action for extended periods of time.
This is the very first time, in all the video drum lessons I have watched, where drummers are told to RE-LAX. What my guy Rob says is absolute KEY. Anticipation is a killer for smooth drumming.
I hate calling myself advanced but I'm very experienced and I try to be professional, but I'm always learning and so I like to watch vids like this (and all of your other vids as well) because I know I'll never stop learning. Thank you for being an awesome and wise teacher.
Practicing strokes on a surface with no rebound helped me significantly learning single and double strokes. A pillow or couch cushion works great. Exercise it for a short period of time and then move to a pad (but slowly!) and you will feel a huge difference and improvement over your control and dynamics.
Rob, I'm a 61 year old rookie, your simple to understand videos are fantastic for someone who is just just starting, they're giving me the confidence that I'll actually be able to call myself a drummer some day. And I'm in for some of your merch too!
Of all the RUclips drummers who give instruction, Rob is the only guy I find who isn’t pushing his own ego . It’s all about the listener gaining information to improve and it helps me loads. I am almost 60 ,stiff in all the wrong places and generally worn jointed ,Robs tips are invaluable. Thanks Rob. 👍👏👏👏
LOL about the worn joints! Both knees replaced...twice. Right hip replaced FOUR times(infections SUCK). So, I really have to work on my Kick Drum foot work...it's not a natural move anymore. But VERY glad I found Rob's channel in my first week of sitting behind a kit.
I play heels down on the bass drum a lot but for a couple of reasons: • It's less tiring (so it gives you a lot of endurance, especially for long gigs or after a difficult fast song/part); • It's easier for nuances and soft playing (the way you just said for the hi-hats!!) However, I also need to play heels up, when I want to play HARDER and/or FASTER. So, in my opinion, you should know both :D The rest is brilliant advice of course!!
Ergonomics can influence technique which can influence fatigue. I sit higher so playing heel down is much more tiring due to the angles. Heel up is way less fatiguing for me because it's a short calf contraction -- it's not about pushing your toes or foot down; it's about picking your heel up.
Rob, bless you brother. These videos are what help self taught drummers like me. I’ve been playing for almost 8 years and I really wish I had a teacher showing me what I’m doing wrong so I can fix my technique. Videos like these really help me out. Thank you so much!
Grip and making sure your matched grip is actually matched is ridiculously important. 30 years after I started I had to start over and teach my stupid hand (the other one was brilliant) to not be stupid. It took 2 years. On a positive note, however, is I improved more in those 2 years than I had in the previous 15.
G'day Rob. Stuart.from down under. AUSTRALIA!! Just sending a note to say ;I just recieved a Tshirt with your 'Maximum thumpification' today in the mail. Im getting back into drumming again at my Ripened 60yo. Ooroo. Stuart.
Hey Stuart, I got you beat (excuse the Pun), I'm 69 yo. Having returned to playing drums after 51 years. Now retired , with more time to enjoy a initial love that was abandoned due to many things including getting married, no room for drum sets, and of course family responsibilities, etc., I play solely for enjoyment / hobby. I'm certainly no Rob Brown, but I am content at this time to be able to play along to some of My Music: Beatles, Stones, Eagles, Fleetwood Mac [although Going Your Own Way still gives me difficulty learning the "groove"], CCR, Petty, Meloncamp, Zombies, Hollies, The Animals, even some Eric Clapton, Oh and Linda Ronstandt [She and her studio band were really wonderful] etc...... basic Rock and Roll. I fashioned a new Basement "play center" - Mancave (I hate that term, but it fits for now), created during 2020 from working at home due to COVID (that SUX), purchasing new stereo equipment and 2 pairs of new Speakers, to play My Music and tom play My Drums. In October, due to many spinal issues with arthritis, I am out - retired. My wife of 46 years gave me a Cheapo Gammon Drum set (yes I still use that term instead of Kit), for Xmas 2018. I was big time surprised because I had only mentioned that I might go to a music studio to play drums again ......To get it out of My system. Man, I'm so very glad she did...... I have tweaked the drum set in many ways: New drum heads, learning how to more fine tune the drums (that does make a big difference), added much better Paiste Cymbal packs, some added Hardware and most importantly added a Used DW Nickel over Brass metal Snare drum 14x6.5 (wow factor over the Gammon snare), and now just added a Mapex Piccolo snare 13 X 3.5 and a Pdp Concept series Maple Popcorn snare 10 X 6 for reasonable $$$$ which I have attached to my HiHat stand. Rob has indicated in other Vids that the Player makes the Drums , not the other way around. But I do find that as I improved the sound of my "Kit", it does yield some more confidence when playing.
@@Chiroman527 G'day Aldo. I hope you family and friends are safe and negative from this covid mess. We in Australia are slowly coming out to a cautious normal. There's still some fragments still lurking in the Sydney suburbs. The authorities are are demanding areas to get tested to contain it.. Enough of that, now. Thanks for you interesting story.I had an opportunity on Saturday 12th to attend a drumming group run by' Red Cymbals' for a full on free session with other like minded drummers. 2 kits, facing each other. Thunderous basses! I found out how woeful my tecnique was. But played on and learning from the younger players( that had better co-ordination) even a young 4yo got up with his dad on an opposite kit and had a copy-dad- beatoff. I finished the afternoon buying 2 Red 10inch splash cymbals. While ive been no stranger to a kit in the past, playing and KNOWING what to play are major differences. Rob's sessions on U-tube among others ,are eye openers to what's attainable So here Go's. Best Happiness for Christmas. . Cheers Guy
@@grumpydrummer8960 Hey Stuart, thx for the info and your concern over COVID. Hope everybody can avoid or at least have limited effects of COVID, the scourge of our lifetimes. I thank my wife almost daily for getting that drum set in 2018. It gives me lots of enjoyment to be able to play to completion some of the songs that I play to. Although I don't really practice rudiments, I do play daily. If I can complete Meloncamp or Stones or Petty tunes without missing beats and adding my own aggressive fills, I'm a happy camper 😄
Hi Guy (and Rob) - 63 year-old recent retiree here, getting back to drumming after a 40+ year hiatus for career, marriage, kids, etc. Geared up with a Roland v-drums electronic kit and it is so good. And no neighbors complaining about the noise like when I was young playing my Slingerland kit. Also just picked up bass guitar for the first time and am loving it. Cheers from California.
Looking at this older video of Rob trying to show beginner drummers a lot of pointers is incredible they are very important points. I’ve watched a lot of videos of Rob he is a very very dedicated teacher he really cares about people learning how to play the instrument properly. I give this man a lot of credit I have a Lotta respect for him.
I started playing when I was 13, in 1998… there was no RUclips back then, I just taught myself… I’d be a whole lot better today if videos like this were accessible. Now I have my own style, my foot pedal style has limitations when it comes to speed and I still can’t do a super clean drum roll with doubles… I sound great, to non drummers… but I know I have limitations because of improper technique.
Learn it so you can forget it! 🤣 Like most of high school lol, stellar advice....an I've been playing 25 years, thanks for all your hard work and knowledge🤟😜🤘
Thanks for the tuning tips I needed smelling sauce after that it floored me. Not tuned everything up less than 5 minutes almost as fast as I can turn the lugs. You're awesome . Drumeo is blessed to have you.
I just got my first kit and I'm 42 lol I got beat with my hands but trying to throw in the kick drum and hi hat no way lol how long did it take you to get your feet working with your hands
Totally agree on investing in the pad. My instructor made me play on a snare only for two years before I could touch the kit. Totally was worth it. Great stuff for the rookies.
I think too many parents of beginner drummers outfit their kiddo drummer with too much, sometimes right from the start. I’ve been drumming 50 years. I remember the thrill of getting my first pair of sticks! (Playing on a 5 gallon plastic pail). Then getting my first snare (a Pencrest snare - I think it was made by JC Penny. It was actually quite junky!). My first cymbal. Etc., etc. you get the picture. Taking the next step was alway exciting I have seem many nice sets being sold by parents whose kid played 6 mos and lost interest.
I agree - on the bass drum playing heel down helps a drummer have better control for dynamics using their ankle like a wrist. Imagine playing with just your arms and not wrists. With heel down, if you want to play an accent, you lift your heel to play louder. If your playing heel up only, then you have nowhere to go but higher and have to lift your entire leg more to accommodate playing louder.
Great run through, couldn't agree more. I teach as well and just wanted to add how important posture is especially for beginners. That's another bad habit that really comes back to haunt you down the road. Keep up the great work!
I’m no beginner, but you’ve really helped me develop traditional grip and some jazzier flavor... could you do a video on tech stuff? Like how to put together the best stacks or some tips for jazz/bebop tuning?
Hey,yeah...i clicked.been playin' fer decades.the topics and your advice couldn't be more helpful especially the practice pad advice!!! self taught here,anyone else teaching yourself would be well advised to listen to this dude.most of all...HAVE FUN!!! its just music
These are amazing tips. Started taking lessons after playing around by myself for 4 months. The best tip I got was "hit the drum, come on dig in" Whether the snare or base, I was hitting it too softly
Love your simple no nonsense approach to your lessons. I also love your playing...very clean and sounds awesome. When you play it looks so effortless and sounds awesome....keep the videos coming my man...thanks!!!
I've been playing more years than I want to say. I'm also an instructor/Show director for two School of Rocks in Florida. I have one of these bad habits. It's the cymbal height. I use a rack! 2 up 2 down. Ride cymbal is in a perfect height. All drums set what I call Cockpit set up. All my crash cymbals are at above shoulder height. I can reach them. However, I'll be doing a cymbal reset this week. Thanks Rob.
Awesome tips, Rob, thanks man! I'm a pretty experienced drummer, but I still love nerding out and listening to extremely knowledgeable people like you talk about this stuff.
I clicked because I have learned that I can learn things even from a complete beginner, so material aimed at a beginner may contain some little nugget of info that is useful. If nothing else, I enjoy watching your instruction.
I watched the 8th beat video with the bass drum first. Right away I noticed the toms were level. Then I looked at mine. And I thought maybe there's something to that. Well now I know. Moving them right next practice
"Stanky arm." Falling on the floor laughing. My students are going to love that. "Ray Charles." Classic. You're not only a great teacher, Rob; you're cool, too! Bonus.
Hey Rob, thank you for the awesome videos. I just got my kit a few days ago and your videos have been invaluable. You seem like like a really chill dude. Thanks
After watching this video I have declared myself no longer a rookie LOL. I first started playing 40 years ago and I guess I'm amazed at how far I've come in regards to the things that you covered in this video. I look back at some photos of drum sets I owned years ago and I was shocked at what I saw. My setup was quite the mess. Ergonomics is everything when it comes to set up. The great Ian paice has said that distance is time. You should not be reaching out for anything it should be right there and readily available. Another Legend Steve gadd explained how his drum set changed over the years as he got older. With each passing decade all of his drum pieces kept getting closer and closer to him. I think good posture and a proper setup will go a long way towards feeling relaxed. I've even noticed my posture improving in recent years. Rob is spot-on with all of this except one thing I must question and that is the heal up or down question. I have learned importance of developing both techniques and using them according to the situation. My drum instructor told me to practice heel down and I was concerned about not getting enough volume. He kind of look at how big I was being 6 foot 3 and said you are going to have no problem with volume LOL. So I think I scored a hundred on this one. And by the way I never had a problem with stanky arm LOL. And as for the high hat it seems to me you can create enough volume by just lifting the front of your foot and not feel the need to do the Ray Charles method. I could go on all day with this but I'll stop it here there is just such a wealth of information that Rob gives.
First thing I did, before trying to play anything, was research grip and find my comfort zone. Makes a tremendous difference in control, speed, and endurance while playing. Great vid, Rob!
More great basic tips. ‘Ray Charlesing’ has a place in funky stuff though - especially when looking in the opposite direction with an ‘Oof!’ Bernard Purdie face. Not as a default, but to add some “Oh yeah, baby, feel that ‘Ka Teeeeesh Ah’ colour” I wouldn’t be without it 😀
You just saved me from myself! I'm picking the drums back up and was about to retrain my left foot to pick the whole leg up because I thought I was doing it wrong with toe lifts... 🙌
Thank you Rob for your great tips and knowledge! As a self taught drummer of 25+ years I would highly recommend learning how to play to a click track and also learning how to use dynamics when playing...meaning = you don't have to beat the hell out of the drums!! When you learn how to be in time and also learn how to play quiet to loud when needed you will become much better over night. And finally...No pressure but the drummer is the hardest member of a band, because he/she has to keep the beat....period. That should and will always be the starting point of all drummers no matter their exp level and style of playing. Good luck!!! BTW - I was I did what I said above 20 years ago. LOL
I used to play for a long time (early) with “Stanky Arm” 😂. Kids, I can agree 100%, correct this. Makes a world of difference. Great vid for those young starters out there. 🇨🇦👍🏼
I’ve been playing 30+ years and I love beginner drumming videos. Because I always learn something from simplicity. The only comment I have is regarding drum set up. I angle my kick away from center to line up with my foot/pedal (think Travis Barker). To “square it up” to the stage & then angle your body to match puts your foot at an inward angle. That’s not very conducive to human factor ergonomics & you’ll have ankle pain after long gigs. It may not look like how everyone else does it, but it’ll work for you in the long run. And that’s really all that matters to me. Great video as always, my friend. Happy Thanksgiving to you & yours. ❤️
Great advice Rob. Here's another...Sitting too far away or not setting your rack toms over the bass drum but hanging them away from the bass drum so that the drummer has his/her legs extended too far to reach the pedals
#4 is a definite need for a new beginning drummer. 9:03 As an average drummer after investing to have a pad. practicing on it improves your hand and finger control on the stick literally having a feel for it.
Would love some more input about high hat height and placement. Specifically, I find my sticking of hat and snare (right handed) can interfere with each other with both sticks moving quickly and overlapping so close together. I have seen other right-handed drummers use the left hand for the hats but I’m not quite there yet. Since the hats and snare are played together so frequently this is an important question for me. Would love to see a video totally devoted to the snare/hat relationship with specifics on instrument and hand/stick placements. Thanks as always for the great videos.
I started learning the drums in 2009. I found an old Aria kit in a basement and bought some drum magazines. The notes were easy to grasp so I started playing. BUT I naturally started hitting the high hat with my left arm, even though I am right handed - I thought it was only logical to strike it with the arm closest to it. In retrospective I would not really call it a mistake, since I gained a lot from it, but it was a tough start. AND I am also guilty of the feet thing. I did it for years!!! Thank you, for your videos!
Hey Rob I’m not a beginner drummer but I always enjoy your videos........I liked your comment about the practice pad! I’m working in the British Virgin Islands for a good year & all I got is my pad and kick pedal! It’s my best friend out here!
Mr. Rob "Beat down" Brown. I stopped in just to see this helpful video. You make great points and it doesn't hurt for a drummer with some years under their belt just to see this. You always inspire me to be a better drummer and I have 20yrs under my belt.
Great video and I learned some things but have never played heel up on the bass drum. I simply can't play fast enough or with enough control. Heel down I can do almost anything. A lot depends on correct stool height however, and you are totally right on this!
Omg bro I broke out in laughter when I saw the setup on the one kit at minute mark 3:09 lmao as a beginner that I guess has some common sense and thought to look at how other drummers have their kits set up makes me wonder who in their right mind would thunk that is right? That just looks so uncomfortable to play I am constantly making minor adjustments to make it easier to play with less effort between my drums and cymbals. Lol now back to the video. Awesome job so far I love it.
Yeah, the Ray Charles thing cracked me up. I just started playing two days ago and filmed myself, and yep, I got that whole Ray Charles thing going on and wasn't sure why till now.
03:20 I learn with my drum teacher all drum kit set up + take by pieses and but back and dimming skins etc. etc ca 24 hours ( total leraning 189 hr + practice 167 hr ). = 5200 euro costs for learning. Now after two month more (2 Years and 4 month) I quit take teacher lessons and start collect money for kit ( ca 3000 euro drums + 1800 cmbals + 1200 hardwehar + 1200 for bags and microfons / condestators 2100 + cabels )
These are good tips and reminders. I know a lot of beginners love to imitate there drum idols and try to set up their drums like their idols, mimic their cymbal arrangement, and foot and hand techniques. I know guys that sit lower on the throne because John Bonham did...
Great videos and it's cool to support Rob, but be aware if you are Canadian, that the Merch, comes from the US. and they charge big time shipping charges on each item.
Rob, one of the best instructors on the Internet. Do ever play a double kick drum pedal? Oh, I was guilty of the Mickey Mouse thing!! At 69 years of age, and having returned to drumming after over a 50 year Hiatus , i just upgraded from my cheapo Gammon kit ( which I will pass on to my grandson), to a PDP Concept Maple 6 piece mit purchased used. I am trying to setup in a non Mickey or Minnie Mouse setup. Since I got the Gammon kit from my wife for 2018 xmas gift, i had setup in MM manner. And also ha e the snare tilted up toward the toms, inztead of being a lit level. I ffind it difficult to xtrick the toms without hitting the rims unless they are tilted ? i do have physical issues of spinal and various joints with arthritis which significantly hampers my mobility,. My ortho doctor said playing drums is def not a good thing for my conditions. But, I told him, Please don't take that away from me...... i play only for recreational pleasure in retirement to My Music.
Annnnnd subscribed!!! Great vid! I am happy to know I'm doing a couple things right, but the kit set up, hihat leg, stanky arm and practice pad (I own but hardly use) Golden nuggets!!!!! Right on Rob Brown!!!! A million thanks!.... Going to reset up my drums, ....might practice a coupla Tom petty tunes!
A big thing I see beginners do is be hunched over behind the kit. Sitting upright with proper posture will help your flow, not to mention prevent chronic back problems down the line and back pain during long practice sessions or gigs.
Hi Rob from Owen from Oz. I am not a rookie and not advanced, some aspects I am really good at & others not so. I have been playing in a band for 18 years and still learning. I love your sessions - you are so cool and relaxed and super competent - & your ideas and advice and demonstrations are so relevant to me. I was aware of much you said here but there were one or two things I hadn’t been aware of eg. The high hat foot using toe (I was sort of doing but was thinking I should be using more leg/foot like with the kick. Keep up the great work. Regards Owen
I clicked cause although I'm not a rookie, I still have rookie habits. I love regularly reviewing the fundamentals. Sweet drum set Bro! Have you thought about gold plating those tom mounts? That would make you're kit even more insane😎
No matter what level of drumming I get to, or am at, I will always click on "beginner" videos done by a professional, especially you. You never know what teeny thing you overlooked when starting out, and to be given free knowledge, why not give a watch, there's no downside.
Well said!
Absolutely. I guess I can call myself an advanced drummer, as I know enough to teach beginners, but Ive never really _locked in_ any of the numerous disciplines in drums to actually think of myself as someone even approaching a pro. Therefore Im always hoping that I can find pros talking about what issues I have with my own playing, and Rob has helped in that instance quite a lot.
Also, basically all the rookie mistakes Rob described here are something I see most of the time, and sometimes its easy to correct, and sometimes its not. I cant tell you enough how discouraging it can feel to fail at teaching one kid proper grip for months, despite the fact Ive successfully taught other kids using the same approach.
Just like Rob said, though, its not the kids fault, as it mostly has to do with how naturally coordinated they are, as well as if their personality can handle concentrating on a repetitive action for extended periods of time.
Well said... In fact, I consider myself Intermediate drummer. And I've been putting wrong my throne haha. Thanks Rob!
im literally brand new (today) to drumming but always felt like id love it and these videos are a godsend.
I clicked because I like to hear you talk about drumming.
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I clicked because I’m a rookie...
This is the very first time, in all the video drum lessons I have watched, where drummers are told to RE-LAX. What my guy Rob says is absolute KEY. Anticipation is a killer for smooth drumming.
Hahaha ,the stank arm,I call that the stiff arm bit,I like Rob's description better.
I hate calling myself advanced but I'm very experienced and I try to be professional, but I'm always learning and so I like to watch vids like this (and all of your other vids as well) because I know I'll never stop learning. Thank you for being an awesome and wise teacher.
Practicing strokes on a surface with no rebound helped me significantly learning single and double strokes. A pillow or couch cushion works great. Exercise it for a short period of time and then move to a pad (but slowly!) and you will feel a huge difference and improvement over your control and dynamics.
Rob, I'm a 61 year old rookie, your simple to understand videos are fantastic for someone who is just just starting, they're giving me the confidence that I'll actually be able to call myself a drummer some day. And I'm in for some of your merch too!
Of all the RUclips drummers who give instruction, Rob is the only guy I find who isn’t pushing his own ego . It’s all about the listener gaining information to improve and it helps me loads. I am almost 60 ,stiff in all the wrong places and generally worn jointed ,Robs tips are invaluable.
Thanks Rob. 👍👏👏👏
Sorry, have to disagree. He is great, don't get me wrong. Drumeo, has a lot of non big headed drummer s. They the Cats Meow
LOL about the worn joints! Both knees replaced...twice. Right hip replaced FOUR times(infections SUCK). So, I really have to work on my Kick Drum foot work...it's not a natural move anymore. But VERY glad I found Rob's channel in my first week of sitting behind a kit.
I play heels down on the bass drum a lot but for a couple of reasons:
• It's less tiring (so it gives you a lot of endurance, especially for long gigs or after a difficult fast song/part);
• It's easier for nuances and soft playing (the way you just said for the hi-hats!!)
However, I also need to play heels up, when I want to play HARDER and/or FASTER.
So, in my opinion, you should know both :D
The rest is brilliant advice of course!!
Ergonomics can influence technique which can influence fatigue. I sit higher so playing heel down is much more tiring due to the angles. Heel up is way less fatiguing for me because it's a short calf contraction -- it's not about pushing your toes or foot down; it's about picking your heel up.
"Nothing should be above shoulder height"
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@@MauricioLJ hahahah, and the drummer from KISS i forgot his name
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Oh no, I totally have the Mickey Mouse thing going on 😂 Maybe I'll try tearing it down and setting it up again this weekend...
Me too, i was flat footed with my bass kick too but was doing the high hat right.
😳I had the Mickey Mouse ears also.I call um dumbo ears now😆lol!hey now I know,right.✌
Rob, bless you brother. These videos are what help self taught drummers like me. I’ve been playing for almost 8 years and I really wish I had a teacher showing me what I’m doing wrong so I can fix my technique. Videos like these really help me out. Thank you so much!
Grip and making sure your matched grip is actually matched is ridiculously important. 30 years after I started I had to start over and teach my stupid hand (the other one was brilliant) to not be stupid. It took 2 years. On a positive note, however, is I improved more in those 2 years than I had in the previous 15.
G'day Rob. Stuart.from down under. AUSTRALIA!! Just sending a note to say ;I just recieved a Tshirt with your 'Maximum thumpification' today in the mail. Im getting back into drumming again at my Ripened 60yo. Ooroo. Stuart.
Hey Stuart, I got you beat (excuse the Pun), I'm 69 yo. Having returned to playing drums after 51 years. Now retired , with more time to enjoy a initial love that was abandoned due to many things including getting married, no room for drum sets, and of course family responsibilities, etc., I play solely for enjoyment / hobby. I'm certainly no Rob Brown, but I am content at this time to be able to play along to some of My Music: Beatles, Stones, Eagles, Fleetwood Mac [although Going Your Own Way still gives me difficulty learning the "groove"], CCR, Petty, Meloncamp, Zombies, Hollies, The Animals, even some Eric Clapton, Oh and Linda Ronstandt [She and her studio band were really wonderful] etc...... basic Rock and Roll. I fashioned a new Basement "play center" - Mancave (I hate that term, but it fits for now), created during 2020 from working at home due to COVID (that SUX), purchasing new stereo equipment and 2 pairs of new Speakers, to play My Music and tom play My Drums. In October, due to many spinal issues with arthritis, I am out - retired. My wife of 46 years gave me a Cheapo Gammon Drum set (yes I still use that term instead of Kit), for Xmas 2018. I was big time surprised because I had only mentioned that I might go to a music studio to play drums again ......To get it out of My system. Man, I'm so very glad she did...... I have tweaked the drum set in many ways: New drum heads, learning how to more fine tune the drums (that does make a big difference), added much better Paiste Cymbal packs, some added Hardware and most importantly added a Used DW Nickel over Brass metal Snare drum 14x6.5 (wow factor over the Gammon snare), and now just added a Mapex Piccolo snare 13 X 3.5 and a Pdp Concept series Maple Popcorn snare 10 X 6 for reasonable $$$$ which I have attached to my HiHat stand. Rob has indicated in other Vids that the Player makes the Drums , not the other way around. But I do find that as I improved the sound of my "Kit", it does yield some more confidence when playing.
@@Chiroman527 G'day Aldo. I hope you family and friends are safe and negative from this covid mess. We in Australia are slowly coming out to a cautious normal. There's still some fragments still lurking in the Sydney suburbs. The authorities are are demanding areas to get tested to contain it.. Enough of that, now.
Thanks for you interesting story.I had an opportunity on Saturday 12th to attend a drumming group run by' Red Cymbals' for a full on free session with other like minded drummers. 2 kits, facing each other. Thunderous basses! I found out how woeful my tecnique was. But played on and learning from the younger players( that had better co-ordination) even a young 4yo got up with his dad on an opposite kit and had a copy-dad- beatoff. I finished the afternoon buying 2 Red 10inch splash cymbals.
While ive been no stranger to a kit in the past, playing and KNOWING what to play are major differences. Rob's sessions on U-tube among others ,are eye openers to what's attainable So here Go's. Best Happiness for Christmas. . Cheers Guy
@@grumpydrummer8960 Hey Stuart, thx for the info and your concern over COVID. Hope everybody can avoid or at least have limited effects of COVID, the scourge of our lifetimes. I thank my wife almost daily for getting that drum set in 2018. It gives me lots of enjoyment to be able to play to completion some of the songs that I play to. Although I don't really practice rudiments, I do play daily. If I can complete Meloncamp or Stones or Petty tunes without missing beats and adding my own aggressive fills, I'm a happy camper 😄
Hi Guy (and Rob) - 63 year-old recent retiree here, getting back to drumming after a 40+ year hiatus for career, marriage, kids, etc. Geared up with a Roland v-drums electronic kit and it is so good. And no neighbors complaining about the noise like when I was young playing my Slingerland kit. Also just picked up bass guitar for the first time and am loving it. Cheers from California.
I’m not a beginner but this is a great video and i had a good laugh watching it
"Stanky arm"......I died🤣🤣🤣
I just subbed😁👍
Btw, Gorgeous kit!
This must be THE 1st lesson I should have learnt as a beginner…but still not too late. Thanks a lot Rob.
Looking at this older video of Rob trying to show beginner drummers a lot of pointers is incredible they are very important points. I’ve watched a lot of videos of Rob he is a very very dedicated teacher he really cares about people learning how to play the instrument properly. I give this man a lot of credit I have a Lotta respect for him.
I started playing when I was 13, in 1998… there was no RUclips back then, I just taught myself… I’d be a whole lot better today if videos like this were accessible.
Now I have my own style, my foot pedal style has limitations when it comes to speed and I still can’t do a super clean drum roll with doubles…
I sound great, to non drummers… but I know I have limitations because of improper technique.
I wish that someone told me how important it was to have solid time as a beginner. Always USE A METRONOME!! when you are practicing 😁👍🏾
@@doubts All songs will have a BPM to set your metronome to, it just might change often i.e. Stairway to Heaven.
Metronome is a good thing. I try to develop my own time own feel. I should know when I'm out? Muscle memory
Even tho I'm not a newbie this helped me as like staying relaxed, sometimes its hard to remember when you are learning new things
10:44 I was seriously focused and dialed in until he went there😂😂😂😂😂😂. I just lost it😂😂……….Solid!
Learn it so you can forget it! 🤣 Like most of high school lol, stellar advice....an I've been playing 25 years, thanks for all your hard work and knowledge🤟😜🤘
Thanks for the tuning tips I needed smelling sauce after that it floored me. Not tuned everything up less than 5 minutes almost as fast as I can turn the lugs. You're awesome . Drumeo is blessed to have you.
I started playing a year ago, I'm 58, I can finally hold a beat because of you! Thanks!
I just got my first kit and I'm 42 lol I got beat with my hands but trying to throw in the kick drum and hi hat no way lol how long did it take you to get your feet working with your hands
Totally agree on investing in the pad. My instructor made me play on a snare only for two years before I could touch the kit. Totally was worth it. Great stuff for the rookies.
I think too many parents of beginner drummers outfit their kiddo drummer with too much, sometimes right from the start. I’ve been drumming 50 years. I remember the thrill of getting my first pair of sticks! (Playing on a 5 gallon plastic pail). Then getting my first snare (a Pencrest snare - I think it was made by JC Penny. It was actually quite junky!). My first cymbal. Etc., etc. you get the picture. Taking the next step was alway exciting I have seem many nice sets being sold by parents whose kid played 6 mos and lost interest.
I have been playing Drums for years and the way Rob Explains it very easy to interpret Keep Up the Good Work Rock Out Roll On
We call that distance you mention between the snare and hi hats The Tiger’s Mouth in my martial arts group.
I'm sportin' my Beatdown Brown "Tradition" hoodie as I''m watching this!! Love my hoodie and love learning from Beatdown Brown!!
There is a place for playing flat footed. Both is ideal to teach your students.
I agree - on the bass drum playing heel down helps a drummer have better control for dynamics using their ankle like a wrist. Imagine playing with just your arms and not wrists. With heel down, if you want to play an accent, you lift your heel to play louder. If your playing heel up only, then you have nowhere to go but higher and have to lift your entire leg more to accommodate playing louder.
Great run through, couldn't agree more. I teach as well and just wanted to add how important posture is especially for beginners. That's another bad habit that really comes back to haunt you down the road. Keep up the great work!
I’m no beginner, but you’ve really helped me develop traditional grip and some jazzier flavor... could you do a video on tech stuff? Like how to put together the best stacks or some tips for jazz/bebop tuning?
Hey,yeah...i clicked.been playin' fer decades.the topics and your advice couldn't be more helpful especially the practice pad advice!!! self taught here,anyone else teaching yourself would be well advised to listen to this dude.most of all...HAVE FUN!!! its just music
These are amazing tips. Started taking lessons after playing around by myself for 4 months. The best tip I got was "hit the drum, come on dig in" Whether the snare or base, I was hitting it too softly
Love your simple no nonsense approach to your lessons. I also love your playing...very clean and sounds awesome. When you play it looks so effortless and sounds awesome....keep the videos coming my man...thanks!!!
I've been playing more years than I want to say. I'm also an instructor/Show director for two School of Rocks in Florida. I have one of these bad habits. It's the cymbal height. I use a rack! 2 up 2 down. Ride cymbal is in a perfect height. All drums set what I call Cockpit set up. All my crash cymbals are at above shoulder height. I can reach them. However, I'll be doing a cymbal reset this week. Thanks Rob.
Wow! Great tips...even for veteran drummers!
Awesome tips, Rob, thanks man! I'm a pretty experienced drummer, but I still love nerding out and listening to extremely knowledgeable people like you talk about this stuff.
I clicked because I have learned that I can learn things even from a complete beginner, so material aimed at a beginner may contain some little nugget of info that is useful. If nothing else, I enjoy watching your instruction.
I watched the 8th beat video with the bass drum first. Right away I noticed the toms were level. Then I looked at mine. And I thought maybe there's something to that. Well now I know. Moving them right next practice
"Stanky arm." Falling on the floor laughing. My students are going to love that. "Ray Charles." Classic. You're not only a great teacher, Rob; you're cool, too! Bonus.
Cool tip about the sticks under the arms...I think I should try that
Hey Rob, thank you for the awesome videos. I just got my kit a few days ago and your videos have been invaluable. You seem like like a really chill dude. Thanks
Thank you Rob!!! lesson learned! Greatings from Argentina :)
After watching this video I have declared myself no longer a rookie LOL. I first started playing 40 years ago and I guess I'm amazed at how far I've come in regards to the things that you covered in this video. I look back at some photos of drum sets I owned years ago and I was shocked at what I saw. My setup was quite the mess. Ergonomics is everything when it comes to set up. The great Ian paice has said that distance is time. You should not be reaching out for anything it should be right there and readily available. Another Legend Steve gadd explained how his drum set changed over the years as he got older. With each passing decade all of his drum pieces kept getting closer and closer to him. I think good posture and a proper setup will go a long way towards feeling relaxed. I've even noticed my posture improving in recent years. Rob is spot-on with all of this except one thing I must question and that is the heal up or down question. I have learned importance of developing both techniques and using them according to the situation. My drum instructor told me to practice heel down and I was concerned about not getting enough volume. He kind of look at how big I was being 6 foot 3 and said you are going to have no problem with volume LOL. So I think I scored a hundred on this one. And by the way I never had a problem with stanky arm LOL. And as for the high hat it seems to me you can create enough volume by just lifting the front of your foot and not feel the need to do the Ray Charles method. I could go on all day with this but I'll stop it here there is just such a wealth of information that Rob gives.
Always left with the same feeling after watching your videos..Man I want to chill with this cat!
First thing I did, before trying to play anything, was research grip and find my comfort zone. Makes a tremendous difference in control, speed, and endurance while playing. Great vid, Rob!
More great basic tips. ‘Ray Charlesing’ has a place in funky stuff though - especially when looking in the opposite direction with an ‘Oof!’ Bernard Purdie face. Not as a default, but to add some “Oh yeah, baby, feel that ‘Ka Teeeeesh Ah’ colour” I wouldn’t be without it 😀
You just saved me from myself! I'm picking the drums back up and was about to retrain my left foot to pick the whole leg up because I thought I was doing it wrong with toe lifts... 🙌
Thank you Rob for your great tips and knowledge! As a self taught drummer of 25+ years I would highly recommend learning how to play to a click track and also learning how to use dynamics when playing...meaning = you don't have to beat the hell out of the drums!! When you learn how to be in time and also learn how to play quiet to loud when needed you will become much better over night. And finally...No pressure but the drummer is the hardest member of a band, because he/she has to keep the beat....period. That should and will always be the starting point of all drummers no matter their exp level and style of playing. Good luck!!! BTW - I was I did what I said above 20 years ago. LOL
Thanks for sharing ! Greetings and Blessings ! ✌️🤟🖖🐾
I used to play for a long time (early) with “Stanky Arm” 😂. Kids, I can agree 100%, correct this. Makes a world of difference. Great vid for those young starters out there. 🇨🇦👍🏼
I’ve been playing 30+ years and I love beginner drumming videos. Because I always learn something from simplicity.
The only comment I have is regarding drum set up. I angle my kick away from center to line up with my foot/pedal (think Travis Barker).
To “square it up” to the stage & then angle your body to match puts your foot at an inward angle. That’s not very conducive to human factor ergonomics & you’ll have ankle pain after long gigs.
It may not look like how everyone else does it, but it’ll work for you in the long run. And that’s really all that matters to me.
Great video as always, my friend. Happy Thanksgiving to you & yours. ❤️
Thanks bro...I always use your way and teaching..
Thanks Rob. I appreciate everything that you do.
Did I say thank you?…Your knowledge is amazing to me……I am a subscriber…
Forever…
I like this man,he is so good at explaining these things,love ur kit wow tidy
I liked the stick under the arms thing... makes me think that if you can play everything like that, then the set is in the right position.
Great advice Rob. Here's another...Sitting too far away or not setting your rack toms over the bass drum but hanging them away from the bass drum so that the drummer has his/her legs extended too far to reach the pedals
#4 is a definite need for a new beginning drummer. 9:03
As an average drummer after investing to have a pad. practicing on it improves your hand and finger control on the stick literally having a feel for it.
Love your videos. I watch RUclips all the time, sorry I’m late watching this one. Sweet drum set as well.
Would love some more input about high hat height and placement. Specifically, I find my sticking of hat and snare (right handed) can interfere with each other with both sticks moving quickly and overlapping so close together. I have seen other right-handed drummers use the left hand for the hats but I’m not quite there yet. Since the hats and snare are played together so frequently this is an important question for me. Would love to see a video totally devoted to the snare/hat relationship with specifics on instrument and hand/stick placements. Thanks as always for the great videos.
Bro he showed you in the freakigg no video
Now I understand! I’ve locked up but now I know push with control the next step too speed just amazing can’t explain this mans guru explanation
Rob: Nothing above shoulder height!
Mike Magini: HAHA high cymbals go *CRSHHHHHHHHHHH!!!*
I'm a mid level drummer that is going back to the basics. Thanks.
Just like guitar playing stay relaxed! No tension in your hands, elbows and shoulders..
Some of course is necessary! 😂
I started learning the drums in 2009. I found an old Aria kit in a basement and bought some drum magazines. The notes were easy to grasp so I started playing. BUT I naturally started hitting the high hat with my left arm, even though I am right handed - I thought it was only logical to strike it with the arm closest to it. In retrospective I would not really call it a mistake, since I gained a lot from it, but it was a tough start. AND I am also guilty of the feet thing. I did it for years!!!
Thank you, for your videos!
Hey Rob I’m not a beginner drummer but I always enjoy your videos........I liked your comment about the practice pad! I’m working in the British Virgin Islands for a good year & all I got is my pad and kick pedal! It’s my best friend out here!
Omg I will never forget when u made my day!
Mr. Rob "Beat down" Brown. I stopped in just to see this helpful video. You make great points and it doesn't hurt for a drummer with some years under their belt just to see this. You always inspire me to be a better drummer and I have 20yrs under my belt.
Happy Thanksgiving Beatbrown & the fam. All the best to you & the fam. Great content as always 👌🏽🥁🎶
Great video and I learned some things but have never played heel up on the bass drum. I simply can't play fast enough or with enough control. Heel down I can do almost anything. A lot depends on correct stool height however, and you are totally right on this!
Omg bro I broke out in laughter when I saw the setup on the one kit at minute mark 3:09 lmao as a beginner that I guess has some common sense and thought to look at how other drummers have their kits set up makes me wonder who in their right mind would thunk that is right? That just looks so uncomfortable to play I am constantly making minor adjustments to make it easier to play with less effort between my drums and cymbals. Lol now back to the video. Awesome job so far I love it.
Rocking like Ray charles god that made me laugh
Thanks for what you do. Great lessons. The directions are simple and to the point. Not over the top. You inspire us to want to play better
Thank you 🙏🏽 this was extremely helpful.
I use the weight of my leg on hi hat like bass and I should stop. Cool. I am going to be checking out more of these vids.
I subscribed too.
Yeah, the Ray Charles thing cracked me up. I just started playing two days ago and filmed myself, and yep, I got that whole Ray Charles thing going on and wasn't sure why till now.
Great video, and your channel is the best!!! Thank you!!
03:20 I learn with my drum teacher all drum kit set up + take by pieses and but back and dimming skins etc. etc ca 24 hours ( total leraning 189 hr + practice 167 hr ). = 5200 euro costs for learning. Now after two month more (2 Years and 4 month) I quit take teacher lessons and start collect money for kit ( ca 3000 euro drums + 1800 cmbals + 1200 hardwehar + 1200 for bags and microfons / condestators 2100 + cabels )
This is stuff a lot of drummers missed out on in the beginning fantastic work this guy’s very good at teaching
These are good tips and reminders. I know a lot of beginners love to imitate there drum idols and try to set up their drums like their idols, mimic their cymbal arrangement, and foot and hand techniques. I know guys that sit lower on the throne because John Bonham did...
Love the sticks under the arms trick!! Coolness, best training method I've seen in years!
Great videos and it's cool to support Rob, but be aware if you are Canadian, that the Merch, comes from the US. and they charge big time shipping charges on each item.
#3 right here! I do love Ray Charles, though.
Thanks man! Gonna try the sticks in the armpits thing.
Awesome thanks man. Great tips.. Off to reset my kit. 😁
Veteran drummer here, but great info as always Sir, I would add not overplaying a song with too many fills and chops.
Rob, one of the best instructors on the Internet. Do ever play a double kick drum pedal? Oh, I was guilty of the Mickey Mouse thing!! At 69 years of age, and having returned to drumming after over a 50 year Hiatus , i just upgraded from my cheapo Gammon kit ( which I will pass on to my grandson), to a PDP Concept Maple 6 piece mit purchased used. I am trying to setup in a non Mickey or Minnie Mouse setup. Since I got the Gammon kit from my wife for 2018 xmas gift, i had setup in MM manner. And also ha e the snare tilted up toward the toms, inztead of being a lit
level. I ffind it difficult to xtrick the toms without hitting the rims unless they are tilted ? i do have physical issues of spinal and various joints with arthritis which significantly hampers my mobility,. My ortho doctor said playing drums is def not a good thing for my conditions. But, I told him, Please don't take that away from me...... i play only for recreational pleasure in retirement to My Music.
Just tryna share some positivity in 202 I love you rob and you inspire me so much stay humble and stay safe and stay true love ya rob
Annnnnd subscribed!!! Great vid! I am happy to know I'm doing a couple things right, but the kit set up, hihat leg, stanky arm and practice pad (I own but hardly use)
Golden nuggets!!!!!
Right on Rob Brown!!!!
A million thanks!....
Going to reset up my drums, ....might practice a coupla Tom petty tunes!
Good stuff for beginners, reminder for all .. thanks Rob
Awesome!!! Thank you so much!!
Ever since i've found your great channel, I've improved 💯% in a month!!
Thanks so much for your enormous contribution to music education!!!
Played heel down for years, frustrated with lack of volume, before I learned heel up.
A big thing I see beginners do is be hunched over behind the kit. Sitting upright with proper posture will help your flow, not to mention prevent chronic back problems down the line and back pain during long practice sessions or gigs.
Beatdown is the truth!
Rocking like ray charles lol. So good.
I downloaded 4 videos already. I wanna step out right now.🔥 Thank You Sir for the lessons. New Subscriber here🤍
Some believe the shoe you wear doesn't make a difference. Do you suggest a particular shoe for playing drums?
Good question. Flat bottom,let's say "soccer ⚽️ style" sneakers
Hi Rob from Owen from Oz. I am not a rookie and not advanced, some aspects I am really good at & others not so. I have been playing in a band for 18 years and still learning. I love your sessions - you are so cool and relaxed and super competent - & your ideas and advice and demonstrations are so relevant to me. I was aware of much you said here but there were one or two things I hadn’t been aware of eg. The high hat foot using toe (I was sort of doing but was thinking I should be using more leg/foot like with the kick. Keep up the great work.
Regards
Owen
That puma shoe used to illustrate the bass pedal look like it went to a sweet pair of kicks.
I clicked cause although I'm not a rookie, I still have rookie habits. I love regularly reviewing the fundamentals. Sweet drum set Bro! Have you thought about gold plating those tom mounts? That would make you're kit even more insane😎