I've been in logistics for 31 years and it's always funny how Administrators and Sales people think every thing looks grand on paper but then they can't figure out why it doesn't work in reality lol
Or the best realization of classroom and field. Nice to think everything the professor THINKS encompasses actual business class, but he needs to listen to a businessman. Otherwise the man(professor) is talking out of his ass.
Then there's the long term costs such as waste disposal. I don't know if you're familiar with who runs that business but I assure you it's not the boy scouts. HAHAHAHHA !! LMAFAOOOOOOOO !! Absolute best line in the movie delivered PERFECTLY by Dangerfield. I DIE every time I see this scene.
This guy, (Professor Thornton), didn't know what the real world was all about, did he? He was sooooo arrogant, sooooo very smug.....and soooo totally wrong! I loved watching Mr. Mellon embarrass this clown!
When I went into the Navy, after boot camp I was sent to A School to learn the basics of my specific job. After leaving A School and getting to my ship I quickly learned that there was a lot more to the job than what was taught in the class. There were a lot of shortcuts, a lot extra real world details, some of the information the teachers taught me was completely useless, but I still had to learn them anyway, because some things can ONLY be taught in the class and some things can ONLY be taught in the field, because if you don't learn what's taught in the class first the field work won't make any sense at all. The class room is where you learn to walk, the job is where you learn to run.
Growing up in NJ I can totally relate to Dangerfield. Now that I live in the "country" out of state, people are more like the the professor. They don't realize to get shit done you have to grease the palm
Yep! And hopefully, ya got plenty of "Grease" to use, otherwise, whoever you need to strike any kind of a deal with won't even look your way, let alone give ya the time of day! Money talks...and we both know what "walks", if ya get my drift!
One of my buddies just posted a silly meme on success listing things like hard work etc., and I basically plagiarized this scene talking about bribes, inherited money, government kickbacks, etc. I even included the waste management part and he didn't get the joke. Called me a moron and a professional victim, lulz.
I think he also forgot to add property taxes, insurance, and possibly pest control (I’ve worked in some warehouses and they used/needed exterminator services, typically roaches or mice from either the sewers, nearby dilapidated buildings, etc.).
I’m a retired army sergeant and semi retired from the police. I used to substitute teach at public schools mostly high schools. Most of the teachers went from being students to teachers without ever working in the real world. When studying for my law enforcement degree, my instructors all had “smelled the powder” so to say and were great teachers. In high school I had a math teacher that was a CPA for an oil field company. He was tops as a teacher.
@@raybon7939 60's for sure, but the 70's it started to decline, helped by shows like Welcome Back Kotter. In the 80's it was teachers as peers of the students in shows like Head of the Class. Teachers have been losing respect the last 50 years, don't kid yourself into thinking this is recent.
Winds of March Journey/Perry tribute band I remember a few years back, for one of our office moves, we had a dumpster service for our building, but were moving to an office complex that had dumpsters. When I called to cancel our old service, they tried to tell me that we were required by law to keep the service going, that we had to take the dumpster with us. I had to argue that there was no place to put it at the new place, and what would have happened if we just closed the business instead of moving. They replied in that case they would just cancel. I had to tell them to just act as if we were closing and cancel, and to pick up the dumpster. Our old building had been sold and was being redeveloped, so if they didn’t pick it up, they would lose the dumpster, and we weren’t paying for it. They canceled the account and picked up the dumpster.
Omg flashbacks of Macro and Micro in college. I love these theme of film and always remember quote (im paraphrasing ) from Ross Perot “If economists know so much about money, how come they all aren’t millionaires?” Ivory tower bullshit vs real world. I graduated w honors from University but still realized you have to be an educated academic consumer, and learned more useful and practical skills fours years in the USMC active duty. But I was the “scribe” and those served and did boot East coast or west will know what I’m referring to, and understand looking back college did have some value + ink and lead stick knowledge. Looking back I wouldn’t change anything glad did both.
@@mcdonoghrahloh459 Then there's the long term costs such as waste disposal. I don't know if you're familiar with who runs that business but I assure you it's not the boy scouts. HAHAHAHHA !! LMAFAOOOOOOOO !! Absolute best line in the movie delivered PERFECTLY by Dangerfield. I DIE every time I see this scene.
That being, of course, because Mr. Mellon called him on his bull! If anybody thinks that starting a business, and being all straight-laced about it, is what's gonna get them very far, then they're in for a very rude awakening!
I would have done Mellon's laundry if needed just to take HIS class on real world business in America. Tell the Prof. what he wants to hear for the grades and degree, but learn everything I could from Mellon so I could actually succeed and make money!
My best college instructors were usually part time because they actually worked in what they were teaching. Full time professors definitely live in a theoretical world.
Mr. Mellon knew what he was talking about. In reality, when you go to college, you teach text-book situations and how to solve them. The real world, it is all very much different than the text🤔
A lot of people will take away from this that the practical expert knows more than the theoretical expert. But, the simple fact is that this is just a case of an experienced student who's taking a class that's beneath his expertise. The professor likely knows quite a few things that Rodney's bringing up, but is sticking to fundamentals for the entry level students in his class. You don't start out on day one doing calculus.
Agreed. Although the instructor is rather strict, his stuff is 101 and Melon keeps forgetting that. The instructor also works with a lot of the basic but technical calculations that are necessary at the beginning level. Something Melon has to either learn or relearn.
This movie was from 1986. As hard as starting a business was back then, it's easily ten times harder now. Hell, you have to grease Special Interest palms with kickbacks just for the permits. The USA regulated itself into insolvency. Even with all that nobody wants to start a business just to have it taxed away, which means less tax collected. But DC doesn't care, because they decided the invisible tax (inflation) was the solution. Leveraging future production, when current production is dying. What a winning strategy. 🙄
I love this movie. Just like talking to democrats.....they can't face the truth and facts about how the real world works either. How about 'fantasyland'!!!
Back when real comedy existed by real comedians not all pro Democrat political rants all the time packaged & falsely marketed as comedy. I miss the days of actual comedy. Miss Rodney too. A lot of legends in this movie.
On a railroad spur line? Wasn’t the railroad industry going broke by then? Where I lived the tracks went nearly unused, and 18-wheeler trucks took over on the highways by that time.
The professor's ego was just bruised. That's all. Thornton should be teaching that class, and he doesn't even have a Degree. LOL. He's a self made multi millionaire and a successful businessman.
See, asks at the end, “where to build our factory.” If location matters, then the product ABSOLUTELY does as well. Are the competing interests for specialized labor? What about raw materials? If I’m making grape juice, maybe I want to be close to the growers to save on transportation.
IDK in light of recent events this hits different. I don't know what the intent of this sketch originally was -- just straight out comedy, an opportunity to throw insults at pompous authority figures, or a cutdown of the detached, aloof "professors" with their "enlightened ideas" that have nothing to do with the real world. The latter is certainly how it hits me now, though as I said I don't know if that was the original intent.
I worked construction on a project in north jersey. Towards the end, the PM who had no idea about "jerseyology" said we need to line up a garbage company to pick up the individual cans from each unit. He told me "just call somebody and get a price"..... i told him, obviously you have no idea who runs that business but " i assure you it aint the boy scouts".....what we re going to do is go stand by the main street and watch what trucks go by and call one of them.....thats who have these routes....
Any teacher or professor who is threatened by differing thoughts or opinions or outright dismisses them because of their myopic and stubborn worldview, shouldn't be teaching.
Thornton Mellon brought his real world business experience into the professor's classroom. The professor couldn't handle it.
Those who can't do... teach
@@jacobrobles474 Which is probably why he says there are two types. The quick & the dead.He doesn't look like much fun
Why I didn't like college. I was working in my field of study, it didn't take long to see how they were not teaching real world, just theory garbage
bribes and kickbacks=licenses and permits
You forgot, 'Zone Changes'.. 😉
And they always seem to “expire” at random and unpredictable times.
And the more money you have the more the expensive and more often those problems occur.
I miss Rodney more than I can sometimes imagine... RIP... king of comedy...👍👏👏👏👏🙏
I thought Rupert Pumpkin was the King of Comedy
His look when he noticed students were taking notes from Melon was hilarious
😂
And later on Marge Sweetwater was taking notes FOR Melon.
@@kencummings953 Did she get all the pencils out of her hair?
Oops, this was before she working for Mr. Rooney…
Sorry.
I've been in logistics for 31 years and it's always funny how Administrators and Sales people think every thing looks grand on paper but then they can't figure out why it doesn't work in reality lol
one of the best examples of theory vs practice on film
Completely agree. Experience is the best teacher.
Or the best realization of classroom and field. Nice to think everything the professor THINKS encompasses actual business class, but he needs to listen to a businessman. Otherwise the man(professor) is talking out of his ass.
How about fantasy land. Lost it lol lol lol.
Then there's the long term costs such as waste disposal. I don't know if you're familiar with who runs that business but I assure you it's not the boy scouts. HAHAHAHHA !! LMAFAOOOOOOOO !! Absolute best line in the movie delivered PERFECTLY by Dangerfield. I DIE every time I see this scene.
"How about Fantasyland"... One of the greatest zingers in movie history.
This guy, (Professor Thornton), didn't know what the real world was all about, did he? He was sooooo arrogant, sooooo very smug.....and soooo totally wrong! I loved watching Mr. Mellon embarrass this clown!
@@ronaldshank7589 An arrogant academic prick being hyperspecialized in one field and having no idea what the world's like? Wow, imagine that.
Then the professor dropped his pointing stick 😂
Thorton Mellon was telling the real truth how real life business is run. All these kids go to school and learn theory not reality
When I went into the Navy, after boot camp I was sent to A School to learn the basics of my specific job. After leaving A School and getting to my ship I quickly learned that there was a lot more to the job than what was taught in the class. There were a lot of shortcuts, a lot extra real world details, some of the information the teachers taught me was completely useless, but I still had to learn them anyway, because some things can ONLY be taught in the class and some things can ONLY be taught in the field, because if you don't learn what's taught in the class first the field work won't make any sense at all. The class room is where you learn to walk, the job is where you learn to run.
RIP Paxton Whitehead, the actor playing the economics professor in this scene
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. You'll never go broke selling this story to people. We never get tired of it.
Growing up in NJ I can totally relate to Dangerfield. Now that I live in the "country" out of state, people are more like the the professor. They don't realize to get shit done you have to grease the palm
Yup .. you're so right.
Yep! And hopefully, ya got plenty of "Grease" to use, otherwise, whoever you need to strike any kind of a deal with won't even look your way, let alone give ya the time of day! Money talks...and we both know what "walks", if ya get my drift!
In Montreal Quebec the bid for Government construction contracts
under former premier Jean Charest, was given to member of organized crime
@@laurenceshtull6777 .. that happens everywhere.
We're good at that in Ohio.
One of my buddies just posted a silly meme on success listing things like hard work etc., and I basically plagiarized this scene talking about bribes, inherited money, government kickbacks, etc. I even included the waste management part and he didn't get the joke. Called me a moron and a professional victim, lulz.
Even though he annoyed the professor, Thornton wasn't wrong 😆😆😆
I think he also forgot to add property taxes, insurance, and possibly pest control (I’ve worked in some warehouses and they used/needed exterminator services, typically roaches or mice from either the sewers, nearby dilapidated buildings, etc.).
Food grade/ medical grade
Gotta have a pest control plan.
You deal in Hazmat gotta have a specialist for that as well.
I’m a retired army sergeant and semi retired from the police. I used to substitute teach at public schools mostly high schools. Most of the teachers went from being students to teachers without ever working in the real world.
When studying for my law enforcement degree, my instructors all had “smelled the powder” so to say and were great teachers. In high school I had a math teacher that was a CPA for an oil field company. He was tops as a teacher.
I was just telling this to my wife. Most teachers have always had their summers off.
In the glory days of the 1960s 1970s up to the 80s. The teacher would be the most respected members of the community.
Being a cop is not exactly "working in the real world". Nor is an Army Sergeant. They both are government jobs.
@@ChargerBullet - I've worked both private and public sector. It is night and day.
@@raybon7939 60's for sure, but the 70's it started to decline, helped by shows like Welcome Back Kotter. In the 80's it was teachers as peers of the students in shows like Head of the Class. Teachers have been losing respect the last 50 years, don't kid yourself into thinking this is recent.
This college teacher is a joke; Mellon needs to be teaching this!
Waste disposal isn't run by the boy scouts, lol...truth.
Winds of March Journey/Perry tribute band I remember a few years back, for one of our office moves, we had a dumpster service for our building, but were moving to an office complex that had dumpsters. When I called to cancel our old service, they tried to tell me that we were required by law to keep the service going, that we had to take the dumpster with us. I had to argue that there was no place to put it at the new place, and what would have happened if we just closed the business instead of moving. They replied in that case they would just cancel. I had to tell them to just act as if we were closing and cancel, and to pick up the dumpster. Our old building had been sold and was being redeveloped, so if they didn’t pick it up, they would lose the dumpster, and we weren’t paying for it. They canceled the account and picked up the dumpster.
Prime example....Terry Silver in Karate Kid 3.
Learn that by watching the soprano’s
Tony Soprano was in waste management.
Headed here after the Fandango version censored "the Japs will kill us". I fucking hate censorship.
Just so we're clear here: This is NOT an economics class. This is a business class.
. . . and a little monkey business!
Dr. Barbay, the perfect example of what Shaw meant by "Those who can't, teach.
Omg flashbacks of Macro and Micro in college. I love these theme of film and always remember quote (im paraphrasing ) from Ross Perot “If economists know so much about money, how come they all aren’t millionaires?”
Ivory tower bullshit vs real world. I graduated w honors from University but still realized you have to be an educated academic consumer, and learned more useful and practical skills fours years in the USMC active duty. But I was the “scribe” and those served and did boot East coast or west will know what I’m referring to, and understand looking back college did have some value + ink and lead stick knowledge. Looking back I wouldn’t change anything glad did both.
Typcial liberal college professor here folks, never DID, just LEARNED.
Archie Comegna the actor they picked for that role was absolutely perfect.
Yep,a conservative came up with all of those cost Mr.Melon was listing,CONservative
What an idiotic comment.
You give them enough money, and there is ZERO difference.
@@mcdonoghrahloh459 Then there's the long term costs such as waste disposal. I don't know if you're familiar with who runs that business but I assure you it's not the boy scouts. HAHAHAHHA !! LMAFAOOOOOOOO !! Absolute best line in the movie delivered PERFECTLY by Dangerfield. I DIE every time I see this scene.
Here in Los Angeles you gotta grease the wheels or your project won’t move. Academia has no idea what the real world is like.
That’s everywhere.
Exactly
Melon just takes the professor to school. It's comical to see how much the professor hates Melon.
Especially when he finds out Melon is banging his girlfriend!
And that's even before Melon shows interest in and wins over Barbay's girlfriend.
That being, of course, because Mr. Mellon called him on his bull! If anybody thinks that starting a business, and being all straight-laced about it, is what's gonna get them very far, then they're in for a very rude awakening!
one of the funniest scenes ever, if not THE funniest
2:25 "I'm in da waste disposals bidness" - Tony Soprano
You'll never know how right Thornton was. He was teaching real world.
I would have done Mellon's laundry if needed just to take HIS class on real world business in America. Tell the Prof. what he wants to hear for the grades and degree, but learn everything I could from Mellon so I could actually succeed and make money!
RIP Paxton Whitehead. Great foil in this scene and this movie.
Which is why I'd rather learn from someone who works in the field rather that one who only theorizes about it.
The doc is pedantic when he says, "It's a fictional product, it doesn't matter"...😄😄😄😄😄
"try telling that to the loan officer at the bank"
Mellon was right about everything. Maybe Dr. Barbay should go back to college himself and let Mellon be the instructor for a change..
And, to cap it off, have Mr. Barbay sit in a corner, wearing a Dunce Cap!
That'd be hilarious!!!
Mellon was right about everything.
My best college instructors were usually part time because they actually worked in what they were teaching. Full time professors definitely live in a theoretical world.
I may be fun but it is the way business is run in real life
Tell that to the bank!
And the mob, lol.
@@rong805 Thanx for the reply 👍🏿
And the insurance companies!
Atlantic City.. the Steel Pier.. I was the warm up act for the diving horse! Lol!!
Mr. Mellon knew what he was talking about. In reality, when you go to college, you teach text-book situations and how to solve them. The real world, it is all very much different than the text🤔
A lot of people will take away from this that the practical expert knows more than the theoretical expert. But, the simple fact is that this is just a case of an experienced student who's taking a class that's beneath his expertise. The professor likely knows quite a few things that Rodney's bringing up, but is sticking to fundamentals for the entry level students in his class. You don't start out on day one doing calculus.
Agreed. Although the instructor is rather strict, his stuff is 101 and Melon keeps forgetting that. The instructor also works with a lot of the basic but technical calculations that are necessary at the beginning level. Something Melon has to either learn or relearn.
I remember this movie. Any movie with Rodney Dangerfield is a classic
This movie was from 1986. As hard as starting a business was back then, it's easily ten times harder now. Hell, you have to grease Special Interest palms with kickbacks just for the permits. The USA regulated itself into insolvency. Even with all that nobody wants to start a business just to have it taxed away, which means less tax collected. But DC doesn't care, because they decided the invisible tax (inflation) was the solution. Leveraging future production, when current production is dying. What a winning strategy. 🙄
Seems to me, talking about the financial aspects should be before the construction. Thornton was right.
Man... What i would have given to have Rodney Dangerfield teaching real life when i was in school.
Him or Sam Kinnison
I love this movie. Just like talking to democrats.....they can't face the truth and facts about how the real world works either. How about 'fantasyland'!!!
So who is the real teacher here????
Thorton Mellon knows more about economics class than this clown with the teaching stick in his hand.. Who's teaching who here???
@@anthonyevans535 because you need that box checked to "know what you're talking about."
@@anthonyevans535It's business, not economics.
This is absolutely fabulous!!! Loved every second of it..
How'd those kids keep straight faces????
I just LOVE Rodney Dangerfield! 🤣🤣🤣
One of Rodney's best movies.
After this, Dr. Philip Barbay changed his name to Dr. Colin Campbell, moved to Boston, MA., and became head of the Marbury Academy.
I loved that Frasier episode. Dr Colin finally allowed Fra/lill'.. son Frederick in to the academy because they irritated him so much. lol
“Marbury thanks you, for your interest!”
Man i miss that type of movie!
Need to discuss how many bathrooms will need to be built for all the different genders.
That fantasy land line never gets old 😂
Back when real comedy existed by real comedians not all pro Democrat political rants all the time packaged & falsely marketed as comedy. I miss the days of actual comedy. Miss Rodney too. A lot of legends in this movie.
Me Name Sammy Kinison ate iron nails for breakfast!!!
You idiots ever take a vacation
Rick O'Shay You're too apparent, Inbred.Go let your sister out of the basement👿
This was me in business school 😂
😍.
Dr. Barbay, the perfect example of what Shaw meant by "Those who can't, teach.
R.I.P. Paxton Whitehead!
Real world smacks the university fantasyland!
Rodney and kinison was the best scene of the whole movie
This movie never gets old!🥳
On a railroad spur line? Wasn’t the railroad industry going broke by then? Where I lived the tracks went nearly unused, and 18-wheeler trucks took over on the highways by that time.
it shows how outdated what the professor is saying
Back 🔙 To School 🏫 (1986) happened on the month 🗓️ of August.
Mellon kept it real, widgets? What bank will finance bullshit?
Mellon picked his theories apart.
Absolutely 💯 awesome. THAT IS BUSINESS
i wonder how many kids no what a tape recorder is
The professor's ego was just bruised. That's all. Thornton should be teaching that class, and he doesn't even have a Degree. LOL. He's a self made multi millionaire and a successful businessman.
See... there's the world they teach you about in school.... and then...
there's the REAL F@#KING WORLD!!!
One of the best comedies ever
Very accurate, those who cant do, teach, those who cant teach...DO. Actual real world experience vs books entire life.
See, asks at the end, “where to build our factory.” If location matters, then the product ABSOLUTELY does as well. Are the competing interests for specialized labor? What about raw materials? If I’m making grape juice, maybe I want to be close to the growers to save on transportation.
Love the scene so so much. JMO
Old school. Something written on a blackboard, rather than Power Point. Of course, this was thirty-six years ago, so enough said. Loved this movie!
I have but one question for you....in twenty seven parts.
“I’d like to break him into 27 parts.”
Lol
I feel like I just gave birth . . . to an accountant!
That's still the problem. All the professors have never ran a business. they never got out of the classroom
Why do people think that "economics" and "business" are the same thing?
Attorney General Letitia James needs to see this on how business gets done here in America 🇺🇸👍
I heard college enrollment is getting less and less and universities are losing money.
that professor knew nothing about reality
This is a documentary.
Don’t forget promising to donate to the governor’s re-election campaign for low rent housing fees. That’s key!
IDK in light of recent events this hits different. I don't know what the intent of this sketch originally was -- just straight out comedy, an opportunity to throw insults at pompous authority figures, or a cutdown of the detached, aloof "professors" with their "enlightened ideas" that have nothing to do with the real world. The latter is certainly how it hits me now, though as I said I don't know if that was the original intent.
I refer to this scene regularly.
"He really tells it like it ain't."
Rodney was the best !!!
“It’s strictly business”
I worked construction on a project in north jersey. Towards the end, the PM who had no idea about "jerseyology" said we need to line up a garbage company to pick up the individual cans from each unit. He told me "just call somebody and get a price"..... i told him, obviously you have no idea who runs that business but " i assure you it aint the boy scouts".....what we re going to do is go stand by the main street and watch what trucks go by and call one of them.....thats who have these routes....
Theory vs practice
Any teacher or professor who is threatened by differing thoughts or opinions or outright dismisses them because of their myopic and stubborn worldview, shouldn't be teaching.
Back When there were no PowerPoint and Microsoft excel presentations
There are so many issues with are facing today, that stem from the point of this scene. To many people have elected to live in said fantasy land.
the difference between being book/test smart and street smart. gaining knowledge is useful, but not at the cost of zero wisdom
Good luck if you want to do things without those boxes checked, tho. (Did it, lol)
English comedians are the best.
lol the concrete line hahaaaaa
Thornton Mellon knew more about business than Phillip did.
Teacher could just write other/inefficiencies and other/expenses
where should we build our factory rodney how about fantasy land great line
Technically, the product does matter due to elasticity lol.
Love this movie
0:55 I miss the 80's, back when we could say "Japs" and no one would care either way...
knees
#1 reason people hate school ZERO real world application