Hello musical friends! Do you agree with my opinion on Finale? Or do you think Finale will thrive for years to go? If Finale does not survive, I’ll still be sad! I got a great start on Finale, and it helped me in my college career. However, we are in an extremely interesting period of music notation software, with MuseScore and Dorico gaining massive popularity. Have a wonderful, musical day!
I personally wish Musescore would make it so their simple note entry (using a mouse rather than a MIDI keyboard) was as straightforward as Finale's. I personally find Musescore's note entry to be a bit finicky in a lot of different ways.
I think you're probably right. I'm an old fogey who spent years learning Finale, so I can't be bothered to learn a new program like MuseScore myself. I compose regularly and have all my templates set. Yet, all my colleagues have switched over to MuseScore. They don't compose as often, and they don't mind that it doesn't have as many advanced tools. (And apparently that gap has narrowed. Perhaps that gap no longer even exists.) They also report that the learning curve is less steep, both for students and for the teachers themselves. And finally, when your music program has a $0 per year budget, the MuseScore price simply can't be beat!
finale costs 99$ for education... and the "normal" price is 299$ and it will stay that low. I am a main Musescore User, but nothing beats Finale when u need uncommon layouts wich is normally the use case in educational stuff... and its really fast to work with, if u have prepared your template and stuff, wich u have to do in every software. Use correct informations and not old ones.
Hello! Thank you for your feedback. From what I have seen with the current MuseScore 4 update, it is very possible to create uncommon layouts! People have also created their own uncommon layouts and custom layouts! Check out this conversation of people getting help creating their custom layout in MuseScore here: musescore.org/en/node/340288. I can only imagine creating uncommon layouts is much easier after the MuseScore 4 update! Plus, Sibelius and Dorico allows you to make custom layouts and templates. While you may have to spend 10 minutes making it how you want, once that template is saved, you should have it for the entirety you have the program. I have had music educator friends who only use MuseScore since it is free, and since they've created custom templates, they have had no issues! All the templates they have made had been super quick to make. I have heard no complaints from them about it. Plus, not every school can afford $99 per student per copy of Finale! (remember, this would be per computer, not for the entire school system! This initially puts a huge financial burden on Schools to help students access a notational program, even though they'd be able to keep the license forever). Additionally, some students will want to have a program on their computer. While I am fortunate I could afford a $99 purchase, not every music student will be able to do this! It is very possible to work quickly in both programs. At my peak of working in Finale, I was extremely fast. However, I've also seen people write 8 minute works in Musescore in the same amount of time they put 1 minute of music in Finale. It all depends on how comfortable we are with the program. Every person's experience in each program can be different, but I feel as though it is important for every student to be able to access music education with as few barriers as possible. Currently, a free notation program has the potential to do that! If any of the information I said is incorrect, feel free to point to where I was wrong. I'd love to see links to where I lead people astray. I would hate to put egregiously incorrect information out there! Again, thank you for watching the video! Have a wonderful, musical day!
I use MuseScore because it's free and has high-quality sounds and engraving, but am I the only one here who finds simple note entry to be much more convenient and intuitive in Finale?
I'm sure there are a fair amount of people who would agree with you that simple note entry is more intuitive in Finale! It probably all depends on each person's personal style. I used Finale over MuseScore in college partly due to that! (of course, that was pre MuseScore 4, so things may have changed significantly since then)
@@TheMusicalNotesOfficial The best note entry is StaffPad on an iPad with Apple Pencil (or PreSonus Notion Mobile, I've had good results with that). Hopefully MuseScore finds a way to equalize the file format used by both applications so that they are 100% interoperable (effectively turning StaffPad into a sort of "MuseScore for iPad/Surface"). I do think MuseScore has the best stock sounds out of any Notation App, but super serious users are likely to have something like HOOPUS or BBCSO Core/Pro hooked up through NotePerformer in Sibelius or Dorico anyways... so that is a wash. Those Libraries are always on sale. Free matters more to people who do this as a hobby than those who do it as a profession. Professionals are likely to see value in paying for something that will increase their productivity. The product basically pays for itself if it does that.
Dorico will become the industry standard. Musescore, as fas as I’m aware, doesn’t have real-time midi keyboard recording like Sibelius, Dorico and Finale had. That limits its appeal too.
I think sharing opinions is something that is good! Sometimes they are more rant-like, but we won't improve music without having people express their opinions and solutions!
Hello musical friends! Do you agree with my opinion on Finale? Or do you think Finale will thrive for years to go?
If Finale does not survive, I’ll still be sad! I got a great start on Finale, and it helped me in my college career. However, we are in an extremely interesting period of music notation software, with MuseScore and Dorico gaining massive popularity.
Have a wonderful, musical day!
I personally wish Musescore would make it so their simple note entry (using a mouse rather than a MIDI keyboard) was as straightforward as Finale's. I personally find Musescore's note entry to be a bit finicky in a lot of different ways.
Well, it looks like the end of Finale came sooner than expected.
Aug. 2024. R.I.P.
@@SirWhiteRabbit-gr5so Technically it’ll be August of next year (2025), so not yet but soon.
I think you're probably right. I'm an old fogey who spent years learning Finale, so I can't be bothered to learn a new program like MuseScore myself. I compose regularly and have all my templates set. Yet, all my colleagues have switched over to MuseScore. They don't compose as often, and they don't mind that it doesn't have as many advanced tools. (And apparently that gap has narrowed. Perhaps that gap no longer even exists.) They also report that the learning curve is less steep, both for students and for the teachers themselves. And finally, when your music program has a $0 per year budget, the MuseScore price simply can't be beat!
finale costs 99$ for education... and the "normal" price is 299$ and it will stay that low. I am a main Musescore User, but nothing beats Finale when u need uncommon layouts wich is normally the use case in educational stuff... and its really fast to work with, if u have prepared your template and stuff, wich u have to do in every software. Use correct informations and not old ones.
Hello! Thank you for your feedback.
From what I have seen with the current MuseScore 4 update, it is very possible to create uncommon layouts! People have also created their own uncommon layouts and custom layouts! Check out this conversation of people getting help creating their custom layout in MuseScore here: musescore.org/en/node/340288.
I can only imagine creating uncommon layouts is much easier after the MuseScore 4 update! Plus, Sibelius and Dorico allows you to make custom layouts and templates. While you may have to spend 10 minutes making it how you want, once that template is saved, you should have it for the entirety you have the program. I have had music educator friends who only use MuseScore since it is free, and since they've created custom templates, they have had no issues! All the templates they have made had been super quick to make. I have heard no complaints from them about it.
Plus, not every school can afford $99 per student per copy of Finale! (remember, this would be per computer, not for the entire school system! This initially puts a huge financial burden on Schools to help students access a notational program, even though they'd be able to keep the license forever). Additionally, some students will want to have a program on their computer. While I am fortunate I could afford a $99 purchase, not every music student will be able to do this!
It is very possible to work quickly in both programs. At my peak of working in Finale, I was extremely fast. However, I've also seen people write 8 minute works in Musescore in the same amount of time they put 1 minute of music in Finale. It all depends on how comfortable we are with the program.
Every person's experience in each program can be different, but I feel as though it is important for every student to be able to access music education with as few barriers as possible. Currently, a free notation program has the potential to do that!
If any of the information I said is incorrect, feel free to point to where I was wrong. I'd love to see links to where I lead people astray. I would hate to put egregiously incorrect information out there!
Again, thank you for watching the video! Have a wonderful, musical day!
...2025!
I guess I had a feeling... but I SURE did not predict it happening so soon!
I use MuseScore because it's free and has high-quality sounds and engraving, but am I the only one here who finds simple note entry to be much more convenient and intuitive in Finale?
I'm sure there are a fair amount of people who would agree with you that simple note entry is more intuitive in Finale! It probably all depends on each person's personal style. I used Finale over MuseScore in college partly due to that! (of course, that was pre MuseScore 4, so things may have changed significantly since then)
@@TheMusicalNotesOfficial The best note entry is StaffPad on an iPad with Apple Pencil (or PreSonus Notion Mobile, I've had good results with that). Hopefully MuseScore finds a way to equalize the file format used by both applications so that they are 100% interoperable (effectively turning StaffPad into a sort of "MuseScore for iPad/Surface").
I do think MuseScore has the best stock sounds out of any Notation App, but super serious users are likely to have something like HOOPUS or BBCSO Core/Pro hooked up through NotePerformer in Sibelius or Dorico anyways... so that is a wash. Those Libraries are always on sale.
Free matters more to people who do this as a hobby than those who do it as a profession. Professionals are likely to see value in paying for something that will increase their productivity. The product basically pays for itself if it does that.
This video is prophetic. Thanks.
it's honestly impressive that you predicted Finale will die so close to the actual time it died. it's only the prediction date that was wrong 😅
They beat you to it! Aug 26, 2024: Finale is dead. Now the replacement question isn't just theoretical. It's real.
They really did! Wishing all Finale Users as smooth of a transition as possible to a software of their choice.
It Just died. You missed it by more than 5 years.
I did see the news yesterday! Certainly saw the writing on the wall, just not this quickly!
Dorico will become the industry standard. Musescore, as fas as I’m aware, doesn’t have real-time midi keyboard recording like Sibelius, Dorico and Finale had. That limits its appeal too.
MuseScore has RT Keyboard Input. Have you been paying attention to the updates there. 4.4 just launched and fixed this. Lol.
@@iTrensharo real-time input but not real-time recording.
Dorico, apparently.
You’re a little late my friend.
I really am 😂
Musescore is the future, likely.
rant.. rant and more rant..
I think sharing opinions is something that is good! Sometimes they are more rant-like, but we won't improve music without having people express their opinions and solutions!
And they ended up being right