Your Face When Remco Says the Stage Finish Doesn't Exist | Vuelta a Espana 2023 Stage 9
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2023
- Lanterne Rouge presents highlights of Vuelta a Espana 2023 Stage 9.
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I'm thinking about starting my own grand tour. I have a couple of orange cones and a stopwatch. Race starts at 9pm in the alley behind my shed. I'm not sure where it finishes though.
9pm's a bit early no? Some riders might still be able to see the road...
For the finishing part, place a well constructed finishing arch at the end of the muddiest road you can find, take a shovel and remove some strips of varying sizes of mud from it, just to make it perfectly ununiform. Place some more arches displaying the distance to the finishing arch, which you already made sure was impossible to reach safely due to the ununiform mud. Then all you have to do is place to cones somewhere close, but not to close to the finish, just when you can see the riders approaching your muddy road. Don't bother communicating that the finish line is moved, only for some riders, because nobody's gonna fcking understand anyway, you might as well send post-pidgeons or something. Then ask the mother of the third cousin of your least memorable elementary school classmate to wait at the cones with a stoppwatch and a clipboard to write down all 150+ riders with their respective time individually. Most importantly, it mustn't be visible, that the cones are the actual the finish line, take all precautions to hide that.
Kämna is the best breakaway rider in the mountains right now. Insane. Giro, Tour and now Vuelta Stages!
he's the best, but it's no even on the german news because they 1. only care about the Tour de France and 2. only about GC
@@bene4577 exactly
@@bene4577 They only care about football and Tour de France is just lucky, that there is no Bundesliga at that time.
But i am a German and was really Happy about His win. So at least some appreciate it
The new Rafael Maijka.
Getting called the best brakeaway rider of the world by lantern is the highest achievment i could think of
IMO, Thomas De Gendt still beats Kamna as best break away rider. But Kamna is only 26 years old, so if keeps developing like this he will be the best breakawayrider every.
@@goozerboozer8543de gent hasn't been great so yeah currently kamna is clear
Please put this in the german newspaper
The highlight of the day today for me is that Remco and Jonas crossed the line together and Remco made a gesture to throw his bike in🤣. But yeah, this Vuelta has been very frustrating on the organizer's end.
That clip of Almeida and Remco laughing and the thumbnail is priceless. Almeida looks so sly 😏 🤣
The Vuelta organization has just been appalling in my opinion. It's not that it would be an outrageous issue, but whenever a smaller race has substandard barriers, issues with routes/management or any other small problem, there are strong cries that the race should be boycotted, reviewed by the UCI, stopped and the race directors be prosecuted.
Double standards give Vuelta the dubious "right" to be unacceptably organized. There is quite a bit of talk online about all this, but come on, we get rider protests for way less, announcers aren't even willing to denounce how shit this Vuelta has been in terms or organization and safety.
They always have issues, but this year it has gotten unacceptable
This organisation is simply clueless
Stop crying
Vuelta just like the Tour is owned by ASO, so the UCI won’t do anything
some of that,yes..was wrong,but see how they keep climbers safe, that's must be at the Giro and TdF too,Civil Guarda, effective and in professional way,no hitting,beating,just mutual respect and move out drunk ones,i think..no women with big plackets,shame..😅
What a mess by the organizers!
Great work summarizing the event!
That's funny...should have seen Remco's face right after he learned that he actually was sprinting for the stage win yesterday😀
Caliremco
Dutch calimeros still can't accept Belgium has the biggest cycling history and now the youngest TT world champ. Keep eating cheese
@@apolloniusbeitsman5444 that's cute but no one questioned that
So let me get this straight: there were two *different* finishing locations for various groups - cones laid out and a lady with a time sheet and stop watch - and this was decided in an impromptu fashion *during* the stage? Umm…what? Tell me I missed something 🤞 because that seems preposterous to me
This is the second time they've done it this Vuelta, if you can believe it!
No, same finishing locations for everyone but stage win was still honored. So if someone was leading he had a reason to pedal to the end, all others can stop after 20.5 because the clock stops as well, but they still have to finish the race to the end.
The organisers are just huge fans of cool downs and want to make sure the riders all do one.
@@Vismajor01 Thanks for clearing that up for me,,,,,,,,,,,
@@Vismajor01 the 2nd part is what doesn't make sense to me tho. Iirc even the tour had on the fly finish changes when roads flooded a few years back so that can happen. But either the road is save for everyone or for no one. Like what wouldve happened if Kämna had a technical in the last section? Would he be listed with the best time yet not be the stage winner?
Is this is the sloppiest world Tour Grand Tour organized ever😮🤷🏻♂️
The bad thing about this is now the Giro organizers are feeling pretty good about themselves and they’ll get complacent instead of improving their shitshow.
...or they'll get jealous of how much (negative) attention the vuelta is generating and ramp up the race to the bottom with an even bigger fiasco...
This could be called the "Schrödingers stage". It was like it happened and didn't happen at the same time...
Seems like they just needed a couple brushes and a few buckets of water to clean that section of road. It's sad to see them neutralize GC again. That's a lose-lose for everybody.
I'm one of the few hew prefers the Vuelta over the Giro, so it's sad to see them fucking up this race so badly.
So happy Lenny made it. Such a great guy.
Thank you for the coverage, you are the best
Thanks for always bringing clarity to these odd situations. I just came from another set of highlights that didn't explain any of this, and was also fully wrong about the GC finish location.
Yet another masterpiece of narration. Thank you LR.
Great job as usual, thanks ! So all the GC after Roglic are in the same time after all if I understand correctly ? What a mess this Vuelta...
Almeida ❤🇵🇹
Let's be clear here. Changes of the finish location can happen even during the stage. It happened even at the tour 2019 (?) so thats not the controversy here.
However having two different finish locations absolutely is. Like what wouldve happened if Kämna crashed in between those locations? Would he be first on the time sheet yet 2nd for the stage?
Also how can the route be unsafe to fight for gc yet safe enough to fight for the stage win?
Just moving the finish to a single location wouldve been much better and the only reason it wasn't done that way is because TV setups at the original location.
That is why vuelta organizers should be criticized. Because they put TV revenue above riders safety multiple times already
There wasn't two different finish locations. And yes, a crash could mean your position changed, and it happened for Gebreegzavier that he was 3rd on the time, but 4th on the stage.
good summary & great to see the interview with Lennard at the end ...he must be so proud .....🎉🎉🎉
I guess the organizers figured Vuelta is late enough in the season to be considered cyclocross.
Hats off to those breakaway riders that bravely cycled on the dirty road what absolute courage.
Great coverage, enjoy the insight.
Wonder if someone could answer a couple of questions re team radio
1. Are the team cars able to speak to individual riders or does the whole team hear the message?
2. Can riders speak to specific team mates, does the whole team hear a rider talk to the car?
Thanks in advance.
Whole team hears. But if you want to get the message to your first rider and there is no good signal, and no other riders in the first group, there is no communication.
Yeah, all radio comms is to the whole team. Whoever is talking, everyone in the team hears it.
I keep hoping that the message Heiboer sent Benji yesterday, about GC Kuss being alive, was a hint that Sepp is going to surprise everyone (else) in the ITT Tuesday.
Kämna's a great addition to cycling right now.
You cannot let that guy into a breakaway with you and yet still he keeps making the breaks.
8000 Watt
and that's why I put Kamna on my Velogames team!
La Vuelta: rain🌧, wind🌪, and the raging 🔥 of SEPP
Shame Pog's not in the mix this year, to duke it out with the most stacked GC field for a while. He prefers this sort of "Slovenian" weather, to French midsummer temps.
Vuelta's TV coverage is total BS. Quality is appalling. From missing time gaps and distances to camera dudes unable to even focus the lens. Shame
funny to think the Vuelta is owned by the same corrupted people that own the TdF
And also switching cameras before seeing lead riders crest the tops of climbs.
Like the finish on Friday when we got a good 10 seconds of the roadside barriers instead of seeing the sprint in progress!
@@fitzmaurice88 yeah, director isn't great either
They take too may siesta breaks😂
Not related to this video but could you PLEASE recap the MD cycling classic. Would appreciate your commentary on it. Heck of a race this year!
There was no race, my man killed it.
What a mess of a stage.. Again!.. I get there was some safety concerns near the finish, but the break riders seemed to get up that muddy section just fine 🤷♂I feel bad for all those people who waited out there for hours to see a bike race 😬
I heard if there is a heavy dew forecast in week three, they will take the final GC on stage 19
It actually does make sense, from a marketing standpoint. They literally do that in every professional league. Protect the most popular to keep views higher. There are clear stars who get certain treatment and then “roll players” that get different.
The way they rode up the climb after the GC point is way i ride up any climb 😂
I think the finish was the organisers *having* a few cones on the side of the road
LOL
Your videos about the most controversial moments of 2023 cycling could also be just a best of controversial moments of this Vuelta.
Such a great start. Just a little sad it had an anticlimax for GC in the final
Ive never seen kuss like 6:17
Ha, the NBC boys were saying the stage was going to end 2.6 ks from the finish, and they couldn't understand why Roglic was still going full gas. As usual Lanterne has the answer.
GOAT
What bikes are they using ? 🤔 Aeros ?
Neil Diamond had already dedicated a song to Cuss since 1979: September MAN
Cuss ride until the Tour
Was brand new everyday
Two Forces playing scenes
From some Spanish play
September Man just ride
And take La Vuelta away
Lenny der Meister 🙌
Can someone explain me how is it possible they are doing all this timings manually? Isnt there equipment for these things???
There is but that takes time to set up. This decision came during the race so they had to improvise
Only at the original finish line it seems.
just a heads up: you don't need to lisp the "c" sound in the middle of Caicedo's name because he's latin american, not from spain. :)
Could have kept the first Jumbo shot a few seconds longer to portray the 'strangeness' of the day 😅
Giro and vuelta try to be normal grand tour challenge IMPOSSIBLE
WTF is the plane graphic flying into the map?
0:14 haha good spot!🛬
edit: btw my guess would be a sponsor's graphic is about to be overlaid onto the map on whatever coverage LR uses, so some flight company or tourist travel deal/competition eg. win flight tickets & a road bike bundle and fly to spain to see the vuelta in person whilst on a riding holiday (itv4 has similar big comp packages regularly promoted during it's tour coverage)
2:56 I don’t understand in these situations why one rider can persuade the other riders to slow down/hold off, why would the others accept? Can anyone explain?
you keep saying they are suggesting the course is safe for the break and not for GC riders. Thats not what they are saying. The course IS safe. But a break rider risks losing 1 day of racing if the mud ruins them, a GC guy can risk 3 weeks of racing in the mud. They don't want to put GC riders, with so much to lose, in a spot to have a disaster over mud. Having said that, the course looked doable. It appears the organizers are still paying a price for their opening TTT disaster.
I never realized Kamna looks almost identical to Hindley
lol @ the interview still with his helmet on
Lennard Kämna!
I really thought the neutralized ending was kinda cool. All these exceptional riders just lazily completing the stage was surreal, yet pleasing. Very odd, but very cool
This year's Vuelta has been a shit show.
Next stage will be neutralized due to asphalt on the road.
Facing the media is always dangerous…. Safety first. Wear your helmet. 😄
sponsorship innit? at least we haven't got Peter Sagan being interviewed with ski goggles around his neck any more
Isn't it possible the race organizers are making the time taking location decisions for reasons other than safety, like overall race quality? Not arguing this race has been well organized, because it has not, but wouldnt we all be a hell of a lot more disappointed if a gc guy slipped in the mud at 1.5k and fell out of gc contention than we would be if a non gc breakaway rider did so, even if he lost a potential stage win opportunity? Nobody needs to be saved from an injury for that decision to make sense from an entertainment perspective, which must be one of the primary considerations for the organizers.
Vuelta hasn’t changed since the 90s when I started watching. Always a mess
What was the official explanation of why they shortened the stage? I watched it live and didn't understand why they took times 2.5 km from finish?
the mud near the finish
2,05km
Would have been too round a number otherwise
2.05 km to be exact. So 50 metres from the 2km mark. They said it was too muddy the last 75 metres of the race. They follow a weather protocol. Bad decision imo.
I’m a massive Tour de France fan. And I thought j should start actually watching the other grand tours fully. But this is a mess. Is it alway like this??
Giro is nice, vuelta is 🤦♀️
The organisers of this race could arrange a piss up in a brewery. Every stage has been marred in one way or another by poor decisions of the organisers.
yes, they definitely _could_ but live coverage won't start until after last orders has been called, the GC race will hastily be 'neutralised' by serving water for the final round and we'll have to rely on LR to notify us of the echelons forming in the queues for the loos...
It has been a very warm Summer in Spain. The heat can make things a little unorganized.
They are not able to organise anything. It was already bad in the last 10 years, but this year is just unacceptable
Why on earth do they give 2 seconds between Roglic and Remco/Mas and 0 between Remco/Mas and Vingegaard/Ayuso? You can clearly see that there are similar gaps between all riders.
At least, be logical and go
Roglic
Mas +1sec
Remco +1sec
Ayuso +1sec
Jonas +1sec
They finally gave all riders the same time, pathetic organization
These vuelta stages look janky as hell lol
Super duper early 🎉😂
Neutralised because of dirt on the road? What is this a track session? Giro used to throw in gravel roads on purpose (and descents on gravel).
Very weird. Does anyone knows when the actual decision was made to change the finish, cause the organization had not even time to paint a white line? I was very confused watching it. I understand that due to circumstances they need to change the parcours or finish, but sorry this looked not very professional. Then if I look at this stage results, it gets even weirder. For example a rider finished 6th place with a higher time then a rider who finished at 11th place???
So sad to have this fiasco to reminisce about during off-season....smh 🤯
this vuelta is a shame... with all that neutralisations, they should have first neutralised the first stage that was soooo unfair... so its wierd others are neutralised, but the first not... complete mess and unfair
The Vuelta seems to be a mess of organisation
9 STAGES IN THE FIRST WEEK?
that's the first 'week' in inverted commas; all the grand tours start over a weekend (sometimes the fri with a prologue), then have a full mon-sun before the first rest day on the following mon, so then the second 'week' has six race days, the second rest day the mon after then the third 'week' has six again, though five contested & one ceremonial/celebratory run-in with an attached crit & sprint finish. they often have less in that first 'week' if they've loaned out their 'grand depart' to a neighbouring country in europe that then requires a logistical travel day after that opening weekend to get everyone & everything back to the tour's own roads for the remainder of the opening 'week'.
Clip of the late Chris Anker foreseeing this stage end: ruclips.net/video/PQDzWSigEhU/видео.html
That’s the most ridiculous neutralization I’ve yet seen in my existence
Rrrrremco
MattIIIIIa CattaNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEo.
8000 Watt immer großes Blatt
Why does he say Cartagenha?
This year`s Vuelta is slightly unprofessional
Great recap.
Imagine being a mechanic on a WT now with all these crappy hard to work with fragile bikes where changing a headset bearing or stem length for tight neck means removing the cranks, bleeding both brakes and having to install new hydro housing lol.
WHY RIDE FAT SOFT TIRES AND DISC BRAKES THEN SHORTEN THE STAGE BECAUSE A LITTLE BIT O MUD???? lol
Can someone explain what tf these finishers were?!? Lanterne you didnt explain what tf was going on !!!
Remco could n't close to Roglic. Lucky
Stage was shorter. Surprise it can Rain
In Spain in September for the Organisation theres was about 2Ocm high level of mud.🙄 Baffling.
Remco needs min. 2 minutes Tuesday
Don't that will happen😜🔝❤️
Last 200m before race start
first?
Interviews are dangerous, wear your helmet
CartageNa, not CartageÑa.
I'm so confused - why was that hobbit man holding a flag on some barren road and the gc stopped?!
This Vuelta is as much of a joke as the Giro. Time for them to swap the dates.
Ah yes, another miserable rainy Time Trial. Let's push the final coffin nail into Remco! Come on Cuss, kill him with SEPPsis! Remember it's your month ---> SEPPtember!
Found the token American fan lol
@@DPH5123 not even American in the political sense, only in the geographical sense, I'm sitting on a nice Caribbean island, THAT makes me sorta 'AMERICAN' nice try though
GC Kuss!
Tbf I’m fully on board the GC Kuss vibes. But the thought of a Roglic, Remco, Vingegaard mano vs mano is too tantalising.
@@DPH5123 actually it's mano vs mano vs mano, 'jus sayin🤭
Most amateur races in Belgium are more professional than this.
The Vuelta is run by absolute amateurs. Does Spain have no shame?
What a shitshow lol I guess it has kept things interesting, but perhaps not in the best ways?
Sepp Kuss should be leader of Ineos or EF education he would win the Tour.
No offense but the caption and this video don't sync up. Need to be a 30 sec video with the face not a whole recap.
Remco can't wait for the rest day. 🚽🚿🍺🚬💉🛏💤
lol remco is crying all the time going down the hill after race is done with that face. nothing compared to pogi and vini class acts.
Almost looked like a BMX course at the finish there! 🤣
Congrats to Herr Kamna - a complete set of three! 👍🤗 A small club indeed.
M 🦘🏏😎