BIZARRE STRATEGY CREATES BIZARRE VICTORY! Medieval 2 Total War Siege Battle
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Heyo. Here is the Denmark player. Thank you for covering my replay :D
Now, for serious input, I find it funny that you are commenting on why I put the siege towers like that, or even why I didn't use them to scale the walls, but we'll go by points.
First, to start: I was attacking with a new guy, which made sieging a difficult task. The teams weren't "balanced" in a certain way, since even though Revelsended makes too many mistakes and often screws up, he's still a player with many years of experience that can blow any newbie away. And of course my matchup in this match is BloodyHollow (Venice), pro-player vs pro-player, which makes this siege a very difficult one for attackers.
Yes, that’s my army, and there’s a reason why I brought so many Obudshaers, Viking Raiders and Huscarles (4 of each): because it’s OP, they’re the best units you can bring as Denmark and the 2nd best army you can bring, and especially attacking; if the defenders don’t play precise, they have 0% chances to win against this army. There are 12 infantry units in total, of 4, and each one is made up of waves, first the weakest ones until I get to the strongest ones (the Obudshaers), that’s why I sent the Raiders first, then the Huscarles, and finally the Obudshaers. Viking raiders aren't bad, is the inverse, even though you said "we're not in an early siege", like, ppl underestimate them at first sight seeing that they're light infantry, but they're tremendously brutal when fighting a long battle, they can be so good as like Huscarles, on top of that having 12 extra men, they wipe the floor against even armored units, like chivalrics, feudals, and even Gothic Knights and Zweihanders, believe it or not. BloodyHollow had a very good army, and the Armored Sergeants aren't a bad unit IN THE EXPANSIONS, but they can't stand a chance against my Viking Raiders since they have armor piercing, much less the Huscarls. The HRE army was too good, too, and it's a mistake to bring feudals despite what you said, because we're not in vanilla, these are the expansions, and here the units are very different. The Forlorns above all, are one of the best units in the Britannia and Teutonic DLCs, and they wipe the floor against any infantry except the Obudshaer if you know how to use them.
On the point about siege towers and why we didn't attack right away: because it's suicide. Venice had a mortar, so climbing the walls with towers is a BLUNDER in every sense of the rule, and doing the same with ladders is also a blunder; you do it, ok, and the defenders just have to spam missiles at your units that are coming to the walls, only to end up with 20 or 12 men coming to fight. That's why I, in particular, took too long to assault the castle: because it wasn't the time, I had to make sure that the BH missiles were depleted or destroyed enough to be able to go in and fight; in the end it wasn't possible and I had to go anyway. BloodyHollow was playing too well, you can't see it in the video because you didn't feature it, but he was harassing my cannon all the time, and because of that I had to retreat further and further, without destroyed walls it's a total lose for the attackers. The Mounted xbows harassing me at 8:20 of HRE had a reason to be: he wanted to kill my cannon crew, so that he would only have one wall to assault (my plan was to assault the last wall and then shoot Venice from the other wall with my crossbows). In the end BH got what he wanted and killed my cannon, while I still had a lot of ammo, from that moment I thought we could lose the game.
Russia was losing, while I was winning my assault, despite what you perceive, because I was defeating BloodyHollow, but since Russia left the battlefield, the battle was already very much in favor of the defenders, you are totally right, we shouldn't have won that, but, as you also saw and said in the video, Rev (HRE) made the biggest blunder in the entire game that gave us the victory: sending all his infantry against my strongest troops (the last wave I had left), and of course, my Obudshaer slaughtered the entire last offensive of the last troops Revelsended had left. And btw, I didn't forgot those Obudshaer, who were very far away from the walls, there's also a reason why I kept them very far away: because they are my strongest troops, and the defenders know it, especially Revelsended, so if I brought them closer, they would do everything possible to kill them, whether with missiles, mortar, etc.
Anyway, very good battle, I got 1k as I usually do lately. Denmark is my main and my favorite faction and everyone who plays with me knows it. I know you don't make Medieval 2 videos lately, but that's because nobody sends you replays about the game. I hope more people do it, and I'll be one of them : )
For someone that have the curious of seeing this battle, I share the replay: www.mediafire.com/file/ab4u8yxh8pk4nxs/NE_Castle_-_MerkeKING%252C_gloobus_-VS-_Revelsended%252C_BloodyHollow.rpy/file
Keep doing vids bro, we love you!
btw: you have a drinking problem >:)
Medieval 2 has some wonky balancing all around and its easy to see why Apollo got some of it wrong. Russia/novgorod and Denmark/norway are powerhouse factions because of their ease-of-access axe units due to how over-used armor-piercing is for units. its kind of silly how useless a lot of heavier sword and shield units become against even basic units wielding axes and shields.
also, the battle did seem somewhat uneven all together. what were starting resource allocation like?
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 In vanilla, swords are better than Axes, specially the Conquistadores, but in Expansions is the opposite, and I could say that's more balanced than vanilla, since the 2 handers bug fixed too. There is so many points why's that, but I can suggest that it happens because the expansions only coverd the early and high ages of the Middle ages, which explains why even early infantry like Viking Raiders can knock out an amored unit like feudals or chivalrics. They're still good, but not agaisnt AP units.
In vanilla, Denmark still is worthed, but only with 15k armies (attacking or defending 3vs4 or 2vs4).
The set was the usual siege rules: 2/1 arty (attackers get 1 each and defenders just can bring 1, one of them, the other player don't get artillery), and 15k attackers, 12k defenders.
Hey, great battle. Do u have a group of people u play with? I've been trying to find people to consistently play it but I'm either blind or I can't seem to find anyone xD
@@not_asteky The game is still being played and you can see it when you get into the lobby, but in the case there's no-one able for join, just host a game and there will join someone for sure. But we have a group of players, yeah
Hi merke nice seeing you here 😃
I love the way Apollo pronounces Landsknecht xD while the Original word means „Servant of the Land“ the way he pronounces it, it means „Land Snail“. 🤣
They do wear a lot f armor, so checks out
@@Bradley_UA xD
I like the little ram fort Denmark made for his cannons, very sweet.
Here the Denmark player. That was a not glorious ram fort there, but optimal one. That one haves it reason: avoiding mortar destroying my cannon
Been watching you since 2015 man. I'm glad to see you're close to 1 mil
the HRE guy had 2 very good paths to victory: send most infantry to the square or send most infantry to the breach. He chose neither, sending one unit to the breach, some units out in the open and keeping some units somewhere on Mars.
Those units that were far away was because
1 - Pavise without ammo
2 - Forlorn Hope (their most strongest unit) and some Zweis having in reserve or protecting spots, also in a safe spot far away from the crossfire of the Dvors
3 - His Feudal Knights (their most weak infantry) which was, funily, his general. Reason that why he was keeping him far away from the battle.
And even with all of that, their remaining forces just can't stand agaisnt my 4 full healthy Obudshaer. They just don't have any ammo for shooting them, neither good inf for counter them.
@@merkeking it should've been pretty obvious after some time that the attackers weren't going to attack the farthest points of defense. Siege towers and ladders would still have to go all the way around the city (and thus are much slower than the infantry troops of the defenders) plus the defenders had the advantage of shorter lines of communication.
So the defenders reserves guarding the wall that no one could possibly attack was still stupid.
@@hoarder1919 Nobody, not even Gloobus, and certainly not me, who was the team leader, was going to use the siege towers to climb the walls. That's stupid. He could have used his out-of-ammo pavise as cannon fodder to hold a line while real reinforcements arrive, but honestly, those units are so garbage in melee that you just forget to use them properly once they're out of ammo, maybe that's why he had those pavise so fucking far-away.
As I said, it's a natural move to keep your reserves far away from the hold-line. If you want, you can have your reinforcements closer, so that they get shot by the Russian Dvors and you lose valuable troops
@@merkeking even more so then. There was virtually no threat to the far walls where HRE troops were. They were basically just guarding themselves there.
Throwing infantry out in the open at 10:27 and after was also a mistake - you can do that if your sullying cavalry is in danger but it wasn't. His cavalry was well protected by the missile units on the wall and he already had a wall breach on his hands. What was he trying to achieve there, brining out pikemen out in the open instead of bringing them to the breach?
@@hoarder1919 Sally with cavy and that pike was for the idea of counter the Russia cav if they come to defend his units, but yes, was a very VERY bad idea, because, even if he had the adventage sallying out against a noob, it's so easely to counter that sally by just putting some archers and spam missiles to him, but again, the Russia player was a newbie so he didn't knew what to do in that situation, thing that the HRE player took adventage and just do what he wanted to him.
Great stand-up against the nerds for the HRE
So good Apollo no one does these replays like you. Have a good night everybody
15:15 had me laughing my ass off, inner middle schooler still there making dirty jokes.
A medieval siege battle. Yeah babyyyyy thats what we neeeeeed
17:50 WATCH YOUR BACK!!! lmaoooooooo
3:26 just took a uni course on the habsburgs, you’re 100% right here good to hear it
definitely Holy,
definitely Roman,
definitely an Empire!
More like decentralized, messy, Germanic, vassal states
30:07 lol 😆
While not my fav game, you, Sir Apollo are my fav presenter for these types of games. I came, I watched, and I fell down, but got up again!
I love medieval 2
Me too, I'll never leave this game, even my old friends did...............
Thou hast a problem of drinketh
Yes sir this is what we have been needing
Hey Apollo I recommend trying out the free cam mod for medieval 2. It gets rid of that stiff medieval 2 camera and allows you to get some really cool shots
Yeah it's pretty nice. I always use it for replays
30:06 "The Russian units are in full retreat. Something Ukraine wish they could see" LOL they wont
slava ukraini
damn here I am, after all these years, back watching apllo react to Med 2, 8 years does fly by!
30:08 im sorry what 🤣🤣
We unite under one banner keep up the work Apollo
I´m convinced that some of those players were afk half of the battle or just wanted to make it long as possible :D
I already explained why we took so long for attacking comments down. We weren't afk
Loved the intro, Apollo love the game great video
bruh all these dudes fully asleep at the wheel. definitely the battle of the shiniest turd situation
Just started rewatching the old videos bro can say you still got it keep it up legend
Nice one my friends Merke and Rev
Heyo my fren :3
HEY NICE SEEING YOU
hahaha, wonderful rant the beginning. Of course the holy roman Empire was holy and roman and imperial :D
3:03
Spoken like a true Bavarian. Thanks.
Glad to hear some holy Roman empire love in here
Watching that HRE fumble like that actually hurt.
I waited all day to watch this to make sure I could watch this battle uninterrupted and to make sure my Siege Pants are on 👍
Never have I seen such a ridiculous battle 😂
Damn Apollo was on a fuckin roll with the humor in this video😂 had me actually loling... lol
Can't wait 😊
Nice as always Apollo, but can you do like LOTR battles i really enjoying those or even camping like before ok
Apollo, I beg, an Romano-British Rome Remastared BI campaign :D
First time back on youtube in about 2 months. First video has to be apollo. 👌👌👍👍
Due to my schedule, I had to watch this in parts. I did not see that outcome anywhere near possible...
I think the defender would absolutely wrecked these attackers if it wasn’t for almost every Denmark unit having armor piercing the viking factions are just so good against the European powers that focus on heavy infantry
Correct. That's one of the reasons why I love Denmark, it's hard to beat, more with me using it. You're attacking or defending agaisnt me? I use my main faction and you have 0% chance.
@@merkeking true it super hard to fight against the best unit against them is pretty much just horse archers or high quality archers
@@Luzon.carmelo0412 I'm the Denmark player btw lmao, the same as in the video
@@merkeking oh sick congrats on the come back i was rooting for yall from the start
Love your vid
This mod looks fantastic!!!
Britannia and Teutonic are the most coolest DLCs
nice feed from HRE
I been craving some Medieval 2!!
30:05 LOL
Love you videos keep it up
Hey everyone. I’m just curious cus it’s been quite a few years since playing some Medieval 2, but do you guys just use the OG controls or is there a way to change them to a moar modern keybind layout? For example: rotating the camera being bound to Q and E.
You almost do it by just editing the game shortcuts in the options. But moving the cammera by the middle button like modern TWs is a quite complex (not in my opinion lol, but surely everyone will see like that) and maybe the Freecam mod just can satisfy your needs there
Main Menu > options > Keyboard settings. i think thats it.
you can change the camera and how it works when you scroll by going into options during battle i think.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Yeah and you just can bind the "Free view" shortcut and use it like a modern TWs free camera movment. In the past I bind it as the "F" key
wow.....a unusual game to be sure....a real game of errors[but to be honest we all make em at the start -its how you learn and improve your game] but as apollo says here HRE should have retreated to the square for infinite moral...and a handy tip to add, the square usually has a few towers overlooking it[at the rear of the square]..if you place a few weak leftover troops nearby[right next to them] you can usually activate them[you can tell when a flag flies above them to show they are active] for some additional firepower to make the last square extra hard to take :P
Yes sir finally I'm here
When’s the Aizu campaign coming back?
Is medival 2 worth buying?
On sale for sure. The mods are amazing especially Third Age Reforged.
Stainless steel 6.4 mod makes the game absolutely worth the price of admission. That mod greatly enhances the base game with a larger, better map, fixes bugs, and creates a more immersive campaign and better unit roster and more factions.
No
Yes
Yes it is. There is still ppl playing it online battles, also me and my friends hosts these kind of sieges like every day
I demand the HRR to be considered an Empire. It has an elective Emperor, it must be Christian and thus is "holy" AND Roman because one of the first carolingians literally created the Papal states. We shall therefore condemn any adversary to eternal pronunciation of "Streichholzschachtel"!
Wasn’t the Roman Empire split into two at the end?
One half Was The Holy Roman Empire and the other The Ottoman Empire?
So technically it is part of the Roman Empire lol.
I could be wrong so don’t quote me.
Ok Apollo, when did the protestant rebels hurt you?
Keep it up
I don't have a PC so I bought the mobile boot and it reaaaallllllllyyyy good
It is man. This old dumb 15 years old game is still soo good. So many secrets, so many exploits, so many details.
It you really like the campaing, surely you will love the multiplayer.
I'm from Australia. I would like to play a custom battle. How do I do that
xD
@merkeking hey, I play Medieval 2
Crap no more vids from Pixiepoo. It is a sad day. I hope your life goes well Apollo. I hope you have a good backup job my friend. 😂
ask your wife's boyfriend .....🤣
only good thing about that battle was the commentary
I drink during battle to brother
Why did the HRE player throw the game?
Maybe he just got confident about the win. Even he was asking me for admit lol.
He did the biggest blunder there, he though they win but sent all his inf agaisnt my STRONGEST infantry, like, wtf
Where’s the gunpowder era
attackers bust be new players
We're not lol
cheeserbuger
Wow
OMG MY CLAN HO7 CLAN REPRESNET
these players are terrible 😂
Get in the game and match me a 1vs1. Quick advance: You have 0 chance agaisnt me, no matter what you do
Are the attackers special? Are the defenders restarted? Nobody knows!
These tactics are unique, that is sure...
PA didn't showed the whole scenario, but the most striking moments of the siege. Every move of attackers/defenders have a reason behind. This is not a conventional siege, it's a siege in the high levels.
@@merkeking Well they were high for sure.
Jokes aside I love when a good siege makes my blood pumping. Even if it is in the rage of not understanding why the heck did they throw away so many troops😢
@@nikolamilinovic1230 You're talking with the MVP of this siege btw xD, the only one who threw their units away was HRE player (Revelsended), but at least he got Russia (Gloobus)
@@merkeking Oh sheesh my bad. My little brother wrote the comment above. I wanted to say that this was a great siege and the attackers were great! I love them and congratulate them on a wonderful victory and I will name my firstborn kid Merkeking in honor of this holly day. Merkequeen if it's a girl. 😍 Thank you and I love you so so so much😘
Fisrst comments
Apollo! It would be great if you could try conquers blade again! It’s an awesome game that in your video a couple years ago I don’t think the game got the justice it deswrved
1 view in 20 seconds? Fell off tbh
im sorry, GOOD ol russia? please speak the truth it is BAD ol russia
They're sooo good what are u talking lmao
Whatever you say, man
Glory to Russia
we need more bannerlord
First
Talk amongst yourselves. I'll give you a topic The Holy Roman Empire was neither Roman nor Holy. Discuss.