It would be so cool to write/print literature with this. Almost steampunk?/cyberpunk? whatever, I wish that machines like this become more common place.
Brian, I think that's a wonderful diagnostic tool and a good allocation of your time. I look forward to getting an "autographed" print of that sphere! Just make sure you set mine to left-handed writing. :)))
Someone needs to write a g code so that the pen will keep the letters connected, just like normal handwriting, and come back to dot all the I's and cross the T's. I think other than it would look nicer, it would speed up the process. I'll try to work on this myself once I get some time
the former german chancelor helmut kohl employed a similar machine back in 1987. as was reported in the magazine "der spiegel" 49/2017 he wrote a letter to each of the then more than 700,000 members of his party in order to ensure a good standing within the party. the letter itself was full of petty, generic pleasantries and was typewritten. the signature however was made with a machine that guided a fountain pen along a stencil. as this was done in secret by trusted staff members, the idea was that the recipients of the letter took it for real and felt honored by the seamingly hand-signed letter.
The test page is awesome. Yes like you said it can be a good precise testing rig. Besides it is cool. Not to confused as replacement of handwritten letter substitute.
Don't be so shy and apologizing about that. I think that thing is fancy! In fact, i have been dreaming of a device exactly like that because i don't have a printer and don't want to buy those expensive ink cartridges that printers require.
indeed, even if in the end there's a machine, there's so many things about typography, font, and how to make a letter or some simple text not completely soulless, with the kerning, spacing, little details a lot of people ignore. i love writing sometimes, and myself i draw in various fonts when i pick my rotrings. boredom? autism? idk. it's all part of the beauty of writing a message.
Pen plotters are not something new. You can buy any old pen plotter and make it work with your computer. Most are designed for felt tip pens but could easily be adapted for fountain pen use.
If your primary problem with printers is the ink cartridges, there is at least one printer on the market which has ink reservoirs that you can just pour the ink in, instead of putting in a cartridge. It seemed like a cost-effective solution for our household when our old printer broke, but the one we have does have an issue where sometimes if it hasn't been used for a while we have to force power it off by unplugging it and plugging it back in. However, if a pen plotter works for your purposes just as well or better, then that sounds like a cool solution.
I disagree with Brian completely, the reason the lettering looks 'souless' is due to the FONT the machine is using is 'souless'. What the Edison Pen company needs to do is create a font based off of Brian's own handwriting. The plotter will then faithfully re-create Brian's 'soulful' handwriting in letters to all those who buy their pens. problem solved. Brian should not slag computers if he doesn't know any thing about them.
Spoder Man it's really easy to just make the font randomly use different variations of the same letters. 2 or 3 might still be repetitive, but if you had 50, or even 100 variations, you aren't going to notice the repetition as much.
Also, if the machine was adjusted to roll the pen a tiny bit depending on where it is, and use random pressure (within reason) it would also add a lot of character to the writing as well.
that would require a couple more of small servos. i just wonder if a software like Illustrator, which stores the angle from a tablet, and has this vectorized would allow a plotter to reproduce this.
Como fazer a máquina escrever assim essa seqüência? A minha aqui escolher eleatoriamente os pontos da escrita e desenho. Fica mais interessante fazer a axidraw usar esse movimento.
This is cool! This might not replace human handwriting, but I would be happy for it to replace my laser printer. I am expecting a pen from you in November. I hope to get a letter made on this.
Hi, I'm looking to build something like this myself, I was just wondering if you guys developed this yourself or is it the AxiDraw product? If you guys did develop it can you release the build log?
It depends on what you want to print. For example, if you wanted to print an image with 6 colors, you would have to print on the same paper 6 different times with 6 different colored pens. A pen plotter works great with stuff that is made out of lines, like an architect's blueprint for example. You can print lots and lots of stuff with a pen plotter, but it surely doesn't substitute a printer, a printer can use a full range of colors and it's so, so much faster. Hope to have answered you!
You need to differentiate between AI generated, and computer synthesized. Electronic music very much has soul, as an artist is still required to compose and play it.
Gostaria de saber, como faço para a minha plotter escrever como esse texto. Os textos tem que ser em arquivo formato dxf ou qual seria ? E parabéns p/ canal
No, I use inexpensive indian ink in art supplies stores, I refill my Rotrings with it. Ink from HP/Epson are not better, but Idocrats keep buying those. If time is an issue, buy a second hand laser printer from office supplies. Toners on big ones are usually refillable and generic ones cause no issue.
I just got one of these printers and Struggling a lot to get something that looks like handwritten out of this machine. I was wondering what software you use?
Aw I'd feel horrible selling one. If you are in the US, we'll just send you one. If you are international, just cover postage. Email brian@edisonpen.com Thanks!
I'm sure you could add some "soul" into it by introducing a small amount of randomness to the paths or even to the controller if it can be reprogrammed.
I have a pen plotter I'm using to write "handwritten" letters on 8.5"W x 10.9"H wide ruled lined paper. I use Inkscape to set up the letter, format the text, and generate gcode for the plotter. I'm having trouble getting the text to align properly.
I ready to buy, I have one doubt , one boke page have lots of words , how to write this , same copying book to A4 one page or can extend to second page... please clarify it...
The pressure is not the weight of the pen + weight of the holder + something else. The weights don't matter since the machine is suspending them - the machine can apply whatever pressure it's set to, within its range.
Hi there. I saw your comment about our pen plotter earlier, but I can't find it now. I'd be happy to do a writing sample to accompany any Signature Line Pen, but our font is certainly not what most would consider for calligraphy. So if you want to mimic this, I'd advise against it. Rather, I'd recommend a book on calligraphy.
It's not about robots replacing people. It's about robots making humans purposeless to the point where there is literally no value, in any regard, of actually having people. It is interesting how eager some of you are to shout about your own suicidal tendencies.
Not really the same thing though is it. We all die yes and as you say, we leave a path for our offspring but what path will your offspring take if machines take over?? They will not be able to work so no money for food, no house, no medical care, no purpose. Barely surviving in squalor, eating rats, in a city plauged by desiese, rape, murder. Is this the path we want to force our children to wander down??
+baylego because it isn't inevitable. It's a product of our own design. There also won't be any children left. You're effectively arguing we shouldn't be upset at genocide because eventually everybody dies. It's nonsense.
Think about what you've just said. These machines that serve human beings will soon replace human beings. What purpose would they have to operate if not to serve humans? If humans can't benefit from a machine's operation, it doesn't get used.
With regards to the pressure that a writer should place on his/her fountain pen (nib) if the Nuns who taught me how to write cursive are correct. The writer should not be placing any downward pressure on the pen (nib) nor should the writer griping the pen with any force. A properly tuned/working fountain pen should lay down a consistent line of ink on the writing surface with only the weight of the pen upon it. Your fingers and hand should be a rest (cradle) for the pen to sit in only and arm movement not finger movement should be how the writer is forming letter and words being written. I was instructed that someone (teacher) should be able to come up from behind you and remove the pen from you hand with two fingers and then be able to place or slide you pen it back into your hand and allow you to continue to write; of course Sister Mary Teresa had no qualms about snacking us in the back of the head if she felt gripping your pen and Heaven forbid you "pressing" down on your pen. In case you are wonder after more than 40 years I still have the dents on the back of my skull to remind me of the errors of my ways. Now in case you are wondering if the above is just me making up stories you can always read a penmanship instruction manual from the end of the 19th century thru the beginning of the 20th century and look at what the master's and teacher's of penmanship have to say. (A good place to look for free is [ www DOT archive DOT org/search.php?query=penmanship ] or [ www DOT iampeth DOT com ] Besides they are not bad places to find quality instruction books \ manuals so that you can improve your own penmanship. Might I suggest that you retire all of you ballpoint pens for starters I guarantee the Bic Stic and its cousins regardless of price were a major reason that my handwriting turned into a unreadable scrawl for years
Wow, that is some bland ass handwriting. It is entirely normal for handwriters to vary the pressure they're placing on the pen to achieve varying thickness. This would be like painting, but refusing to use more than one colour.
I used a HP plotter in 1984 with a 6 pen carousel - want to say it was HP 7475a. Now - they weren't fountain pens but my guess is the ideas are adaptable.
i just picked up a Schlumberger 1850 plotter with a 8 pen carousel that im converting to an arduino based plotter. Im replacing the power supply, computer, and motors with a board that 3d printers use nowadays as well as both stepper motors. i hope to get it working as soon as all my parts arrive. if it works then im going to work on getting it to cut vinyl and hopefully fabric.
I want to buy it. How do you sell it one year ago I also emailed you But you did not give any answer. I am Pakistani. I want to buy it Or you are not always able to sell it
Your gcode could definitely use a lot of refining to run faster. When making that sphere it traveled across it for each new line. Like that was the longest travel distance possible. Also, I think this is a suggestion more for a programmer to figure out, but it doesn't need to lift between most of the characters when writing in cursive. It's mostly one continuous line. Dot the i's and dash the t's after every word or just stop and lift at those letters? Idk. It just seems like this machine is slow. Very nice though and a great way to test pens while you're doing something else.
This is the second time I've watched this video, and this time I've noticed that you could do a lot to optimize your gcode. For starters, you have a lot of travels. Making that sphere it could have gone left then right then left then right. Instead it traveled back across the sphere every time. Also, a more complicated thing to optimize would be the cursive writing. Like, cursive is all very continuous, so why does it lift up for each letter and do all the strokes out of order?
Mr. Gray, the pen-testing sphere drawing is the coolest thing I've ever seen a fountain pen do.
My fountain pen cannot even draw a straight line if you use it too fast
I love the idea of using the actual pen and sending the test page along!! I actually think that little globe type thing it made looks pretty cool.
Thanks! We won't do that test for every pen as it's rather time consuming, but if a customer requests it, we'll be happy to do so.
It would be so cool to write/print literature with this. Almost steampunk?/cyberpunk? whatever, I wish that machines like this become more common place.
Brian, I think that's a wonderful diagnostic tool and a good allocation of your time. I look forward to getting an "autographed" print of that sphere! Just make sure you set mine to left-handed writing. :)))
Someone needs to write a g code so that the pen will keep the letters connected, just like normal handwriting, and come back to dot all the I's and cross the T's. I think other than it would look nicer, it would speed up the process. I'll try to work on this myself once I get some time
Ever get round to it?
There you have it. My handwriting isn't bad, it just has a lot of soul!
the former german chancelor helmut kohl employed a similar machine back in 1987. as was reported in the magazine "der spiegel" 49/2017 he wrote a letter to each of the then more than 700,000 members of his party in order to ensure a good standing within the party. the letter itself was full of petty, generic pleasantries and was typewritten. the signature however was made with a machine that guided a fountain pen along a stencil. as this was done in secret by trusted staff members, the idea was that the recipients of the letter took it for real and felt honored by the seamingly hand-signed letter.
The test page is awesome. Yes like you said it can be a good precise testing rig. Besides it is cool. Not to confused as replacement of handwritten letter substitute.
Don't be so shy and apologizing about that. I think that thing is fancy! In fact, i have been dreaming of a device exactly like that because i don't have a printer and don't want to buy those expensive ink cartridges that printers require.
Thanks!
indeed, even if in the end there's a machine, there's so many things about typography, font, and how to make a letter or some simple text not completely soulless, with the kerning, spacing, little details a lot of people ignore.
i love writing sometimes, and myself i draw in various fonts when i pick my rotrings. boredom? autism? idk. it's all part of the beauty of writing a message.
Pen plotters are not something new. You can buy any old pen plotter and make it work with your computer. Most are designed for felt tip pens but could easily be adapted for fountain pen use.
If your primary problem with printers is the ink cartridges, there is at least one printer on the market which has ink reservoirs that you can just pour the ink in, instead of putting in a cartridge. It seemed like a cost-effective solution for our household when our old printer broke, but the one we have does have an issue where sometimes if it hasn't been used for a while we have to force power it off by unplugging it and plugging it back in.
However, if a pen plotter works for your purposes just as well or better, then that sounds like a cool solution.
Heikki Finland Dude... This isn't the 90s, printer ink is fucking cheap. Get your head out your old ass and go buy a printer.
could you provide the name of the plotter? I would like to get some info about it. Thanks!
This is so freaking cool. Once you get this up and running, I will start gathering funds. In fact, I'll start gathering funds now!
What is the software
U speak really well and it's nice to listen to u.
I could watch this all day. So beautiful.
Thank you, Brian. The testing of nib and flow from the feed is very interesting.
I disagree with Brian completely,
the reason the lettering looks 'souless' is due to the FONT the machine is using is 'souless'. What the Edison Pen company needs to do is create a font based off of Brian's own handwriting. The plotter will then faithfully re-create Brian's 'soulful' handwriting in letters to all those who buy their pens. problem solved.
Brian should not slag computers if he doesn't know any thing about them.
Totally. a good font that the machine can write in one stroke can bring in quite a bit of personality.
No, even if you had Brian's handwriting converting to a font, each letter would be exactly the same, no variations that one sees in true craftsmanship
Spoder Man it's really easy to just make the font randomly use different variations of the same letters. 2 or 3 might still be repetitive, but if you had 50, or even 100 variations, you aren't going to notice the repetition as much.
Also, if the machine was adjusted to roll the pen a tiny bit depending on where it is, and use random pressure (within reason) it would also add a lot of character to the writing as well.
that would require a couple more of small servos. i just wonder if a software like Illustrator, which stores the angle from a tablet, and has this vectorized would allow a plotter to reproduce this.
Super cool machine. Great use of plotter tech.
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Como fazer a máquina escrever assim essa seqüência?
A minha aqui escolher eleatoriamente os pontos da escrita e desenho. Fica mais interessante fazer a axidraw usar esse movimento.
This is cool! This might not replace human handwriting, but I would be happy for it to replace my laser printer.
I am expecting a pen from you in November. I hope to get a letter made on this.
You will for sure! Thanks!
Where can I get this type of plotter? No info on your site about it...
What a great idea! I hope that by the time I save to buy a 1.1 stub from the signature line it will be tested this way :)
Writing with an ink pen is beautiful and the calligraphy is more beautiful
Machine or not, that's very cool.
Thanks for sharing. Thanks for the honesty. Definitely going to look in to your shop. Dedinitely will subscribe.
Do you endorse this for replacing hand writing? You didn't mention it in the video at all.
Very cool tool! Never seen anything like it.
Yes, it's fun!
What angle is best? I am building a wallhanging plotter, and finding pens that works well is really hard.
Very nice tutorial I just got one and I'm interested in the type of font and the size please that you used
How you start setuping can you do a video on that
Haven't heard soul coughing in a long time. Cool idea for a machine.
Hi, I'm looking to build something like this myself, I was just wondering if you guys developed this yourself or is it the AxiDraw product? If you guys did develop it can you release the build log?
I think it's the AxiDraw product...
I'm not trying to replace writing..... I'm trying to replace printers. Newbie Question : Would one of these machines work as a printer?
It depends on what you want to print. For example, if you wanted to print an image with 6 colors, you would have to print on the same paper 6 different times with 6 different colored pens. A pen plotter works great with stuff that is made out of lines, like an architect's blueprint for example. You can print lots and lots of stuff with a pen plotter, but it surely doesn't substitute a printer, a printer can use a full range of colors and it's so, so much faster. Hope to have answered you!
Why is this so satisfying yo watch....
Ever heard of computer generated music, or computer generated dreams?
Sure, it might be soulless, but there is some degree of artificial creativity.
You need to differentiate between AI generated, and computer synthesized. Electronic music very much has soul, as an artist is still required to compose and play it.
What is the use of kinematics?
Quite interesting contraption. Great "into" as well, Soul Coughing is great.
Gostaria de saber, como faço para a minha plotter escrever como esse texto. Os textos tem que ser em arquivo formato dxf ou qual seria ? E parabéns p/ canal
I agree with all you have said and then at the end I actually noticed how much most of us don't write anymore :(
Very cool. I have a similar machine....although I am NOT a fan of inkscape, it's so wonkey, some versions you can use Hersey script some you can't.
That’s awesome - do you sell this robotic writer? How much?
finally, an inkjet printer with affordable cartidges. unless Waterman inks becomes as expensive as HP/Epson
Silver Spoon the time taken to print these letters would cost more than the toner/inkjet cartridges you are buying :)
No, I use inexpensive indian ink in art supplies stores, I refill my Rotrings with it. Ink from HP/Epson are not better, but Idocrats keep buying those.
If time is an issue, buy a second hand laser printer from office supplies. Toners on big ones are usually refillable and generic ones cause no issue.
I just got one of these printers and Struggling a lot to get something that looks like handwritten out of this machine. I was wondering what software you use?
Inkscape.
Are the filled test sheets available for purchase?
Aw I'd feel horrible selling one. If you are in the US, we'll just send you one. If you are international, just cover postage. Email brian@edisonpen.com Thanks!
How much does a machine like this run for
How many printer create?
I'm sure you could add some "soul" into it by introducing a small amount of randomness to the paths or even to the controller if it can be reprogrammed.
I am having difficulty in configuring the uno for core xy. Any tutorial on how to flush it would be great
Nice Plotter! Which software is used to make the writing?
Bro it sir really awesome bro but I need the information of how u converted text to machine writing
Hi nice project.
Seeing this I am really excited to make it by my own. Could you please tell me which stepper motor is used for this ?
Nema17
What's the largest size it can print on? Will it do tabloid or A3 size?
I have a pen plotter I'm using to write "handwritten" letters on 8.5"W x 10.9"H wide ruled lined paper. I use Inkscape to set up the letter, format the text, and generate gcode for the plotter. I'm having trouble getting the text to align properly.
This is precise and smooth, amazed!
Which pen plotter is this?
I ready to buy, I have one doubt , one boke page have lots of words , how to write this , same copying book to A4 one page or can extend to second page... please clarify it...
Love this idea and can I use this on my own writing . It is very interesting to me.
The pressure is not the weight of the pen + weight of the holder + something else. The weights don't matter since the machine is suspending them - the machine can apply whatever pressure it's set to, within its range.
That is so cool. Great stuff
Hi reddit!
This letter written in pen is very cool
I wish that's my handwriting..
Mpuia644 right ! I’m going to try learn to do calligraphy
Hi there. I saw your comment about our pen plotter earlier, but I can't find it now. I'd be happy to do a writing sample to accompany any Signature Line Pen, but our font is certainly not what most would consider for calligraphy. So if you want to mimic this, I'd advise against it. Rather, I'd recommend a book on calligraphy.
how did you made the mechanic
How much cost of this machine.
Where I can find this machine?
How much is the pen and the machine? thank you
That pen plotter drawing of a sphere reminds me of Spirograph
Cool machine but you need a single stroke or one line font.
Andre van Wyk
true, and as far as I know, currently it's not feasible... I spent several hours looking for a clean solution, and I never found it...
Wow!!! {p.s. Still digging the beard Brian! 😉}
Thanks! So am I. I think that it's here to stay!
lol he's so paranoid about people getting butt hurt over robots replacing people
MrChangCJ I know xD I love it. It's kinda cute lol
It's not about robots replacing people. It's about robots making humans purposeless to the point where there is literally no value, in any regard, of actually having people.
It is interesting how eager some of you are to shout about your own suicidal tendencies.
Not really the same thing though is it. We all die yes and as you say, we leave a path for our offspring but what path will your offspring take if machines take over?? They will not be able to work so no money for food, no house, no medical care, no purpose. Barely surviving in squalor, eating rats, in a city plauged by desiese, rape, murder. Is this the path we want to force our children to wander down??
+baylego because it isn't inevitable. It's a product of our own design. There also won't be any children left.
You're effectively arguing we shouldn't be upset at genocide because eventually everybody dies. It's nonsense.
Think about what you've just said. These machines that serve human beings will soon replace human beings.
What purpose would they have to operate if not to serve humans? If humans can't benefit from a machine's operation, it doesn't get used.
This is where a computer meets the fountain pen. It's visually interesting how a computer is very accurate in writing.
With regards to the pressure that a writer should place on his/her fountain pen (nib) if the Nuns who taught me how to write cursive are correct. The writer should not be placing any downward pressure on the pen (nib) nor should the writer griping the pen with any force. A properly tuned/working fountain pen should lay down a consistent line of ink on the writing surface with only the weight of the pen upon it. Your fingers and hand should be a rest (cradle) for the pen to sit in only and arm movement not finger movement should be how the writer is forming letter and words being written. I was instructed that someone (teacher) should be able to come up from behind you and remove the pen from you hand with two fingers and then be able to place or slide you pen it back into your hand and allow you to continue to write; of course Sister Mary Teresa had no qualms about snacking us in the back of the head if she felt gripping your pen and Heaven forbid you "pressing" down on your pen. In case you are wonder after more than 40 years I still have the dents on the back of my skull to remind me of the errors of my ways. Now in case you are wondering if the above is just me making up stories you can always read a penmanship instruction manual from the end of the 19th century thru the beginning of the 20th century and look at what the master's and teacher's of penmanship have to say. (A good place to look for free is [ www DOT archive DOT org/search.php?query=penmanship ] or [ www DOT iampeth DOT com ] Besides they are not bad places to find quality instruction books \ manuals so that you can improve your own penmanship. Might I suggest that you retire all of you ballpoint pens for starters I guarantee the Bic Stic and its cousins regardless of price were a major reason that my handwriting turned into a unreadable scrawl for years
Wow, that is some bland ass handwriting. It is entirely normal for handwriters to vary the pressure they're placing on the pen to achieve varying thickness.
This would be like painting, but refusing to use more than one colour.
😮 I WANT ONE 😮
Hi thank you for this nice video and i want to ask u about the g code used for this plotter can use a phone
Technically you could perfectly recreate someone's signature with this device.
Technically you could perfectly recreate someone's signature by hand.
What model plotter is this?
What pen and nib are you using 3:59
Edison Encore with 1.9mm Italic.
como hace las imagenes o que programa utiliza
What is the cost
can this machine, copy from scanner and print on the paper, I mean signature and other stuff;
can you share how you have build the pen plotter
wow@@
if i get my pen with test sheets like them, it will be great.
Сколько стоит этот аппарат? Можно сделать подписи на листах?
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Sir what is machine price
An idea I just had would be to build a plotter that uses say 4 pens at once and each is loaded with different color inks.
I used a HP plotter in 1984 with a 6 pen carousel - want to say it was HP 7475a. Now - they weren't fountain pens but my guess is the ideas are adaptable.
i just picked up a Schlumberger 1850 plotter with a 8 pen carousel that im converting to an arduino based plotter. Im replacing the power supply, computer, and motors with a board that 3d printers use nowadays as well as both stepper motors. i hope to get it working as soon as all my parts arrive. if it works then im going to work on getting it to cut vinyl and hopefully fabric.
Does anyone knows, why my GMS soft soft is diffrent ?
What is the speed
I want to buy it. How do you sell it one year ago I also emailed you But you did not give any answer. I am Pakistani. I want to buy it Or you are not always able to sell it
Sorry, we don't sell plotters. You can google and find plenty.
Your gcode could definitely use a lot of refining to run faster. When making that sphere it traveled across it for each new line. Like that was the longest travel distance possible.
Also, I think this is a suggestion more for a programmer to figure out, but it doesn't need to lift between most of the characters when writing in cursive. It's mostly one continuous line. Dot the i's and dash the t's after every word or just stop and lift at those letters? Idk. It just seems like this machine is slow.
Very nice though and a great way to test pens while you're doing something else.
This is the second time I've watched this video, and this time I've noticed that you could do a lot to optimize your gcode. For starters, you have a lot of travels. Making that sphere it could have gone left then right then left then right. Instead it traveled back across the sphere every time.
Also, a more complicated thing to optimize would be the cursive writing. Like, cursive is all very continuous, so why does it lift up for each letter and do all the strokes out of order?
Wow!
Cool beard, btw.
Polar Plotter www.3dmaxprinter.com/shop/do-it-youself/polar-pen-drawing-machine-plotter-arduino-diy-kit/
How do Iprogran your pen plotter to sign letters?
OMG I want a pen plotter!!
I can live replacing handwriting with mechanical. So clean.
Tendrás el video de como lo isiste y paso a paso programa etc.
What is price
Is this actually available on the market?
It would be funny that since the nib is thoroughly tested it would break after a few uses.
I built a plotter for spheres like ping pong balls. You might like it :)
Pretty cool!
What plotter is this?
Davey Cetina Looks like Axi Draw to me. from Evil Mad Scientist.