Fantastic! When I was a child & my dad, USAF, we built and tried to fly many line controlled model aircraft. In my youth I've seen the P-38 & B-17 & B-52 massive model airplanes having wing spans 5-feet plus, control line flown. Thanks for the video & reminding me of my love for my father!
Awesome. Control Line, RC, Free Flight, Static, who cares, this is all about modellers enjoying building model aircraft and having fun with their hard work. Nothing less than a wonderful passion...
Paul walker of Spokane WA won Controline Precision Arobatics at the Nats(Nationals) with a 4 engine B-17. The Video can still be found on youtube. Check it out!
I cringed when I saw the pit crew member step over the model twice! Once with the flight box! Why take that risk. Just walk around! You never climb over a model. At least that is what I was taught.
We are flying CL scale in the USA with 2.4 Ghz for throttle control and other stuff, elevator is still with a normal handle. take out the mechanical bellcrank for the throttle with some servos and you have what I fly except with 2.4 Ghz. Some guys are still flying with 3-line but a lot have switched over to the 2.4 ghz. It does look a little tail heavy.
I thought, rather than tail heavy, the wing is set a a high incidence to the fuselage. Looking closely, the wing seems to be meeting the airflow at a reasonable angle, but the fuselage is set nose high. Tail heavy would make it pitch sensitive which it does not appear to be.
We had a club when I was in Jr and Sr high but we never had planes this large.....Things this large were all radio controlled. Didn't have the battery starters either. It was use your finger!!! And when the motor started and you didn't get out of the way, your finger got all screwed up. The ultimate was the "dog fights" they had where several planes were up at the same time and each had a tail streamer and the winner was the plane that didn't get the streamer cut off.
Not sure where this was filmed but I remember a four engine scale plane looking like that flying at a WAM contest in the 1980's somewhere around Northern California. I remember each engine had the same size tank and the outer engine was started first. That caused the inner left engine to be the last running keeping the lines tight. If I recall when it was down two engines the plane needed to land and taxied on the ground until the last engine stopped. A great feat and not easy to fly. I recall the man leaning back from the pull of the heavy plane. Control line was good fun. Personally I mostly flew combat.
Perfect!! I noticed that you started the outboard engines first so that they would run out of fuel first. This is how you do it with a two engine control line plane. If the inboard engine(s) quit first, the airplane will turn into the circle slackening the lines and causing a crash,
Awesome and then some.👍👍 ok 4 props and all the motor sync issues, windy conditions, dizziness from spinning, tail dragger - no worries, handled it like a true pro. I’m building a 54” C46 from control line plans from the 50s, converting to electric RC. Thanks for sharing🚀
Can’t remember the chaps name but we watched him fly one of these on control line and he had retractable undercarriage that he operated via the the lines connected to his control handle powered with a battery pack he carried on his belt,this was at the model flying nationals held in uk in the very early sixties
Not to detract from the marvellous job on the model, it needs more area on the horizontal stabilizer....its dragging its tail a bit when its flying. This typically happens in scale models if the builder sticks to the exact scale for all parts. Scale models typically always need their stabs bigger. But great job otherwise. I am sure this comment will come as no surprise to the builder of the model.
That’s a lot of plane. Is the wing at the right attitude on the fuselage? It looks like excessive elevator is needed to keep it flying, and that’s like air brakes.
@@earlyhemibill I was thinking elevator trim, maybe needs a trim tab to lift the tail when it's ready to fly at take off, to be countered with the control line in flight.
The stab just needs to be a Lil bigger.. It would fly better give it more lift then the elevator would perform better.. I don't thi k it's just tail heavy..
Sorry but there are better practices for a c/l multi engine model. is not tail but probably nose heavy so pilot must keep continuous up to insure level flight. A 3 line handle ( Roberts type...from the '50 vintage ) and bell crank are still available. Moreover the starting procedure using that heavy equipment is cumbersome and potentially dangerous. remote plug drivers and self contained battery starter can avoid that hassle. awesome effort anyway
You chose the wrong adjective with 'limp'. With control line you are actually flying by feeling the air acting on the control surfaces & the g-forces on your wrist. While with RC you never feel what the aircraft is actually doing, you just watch it.
This was impressive but I’ve always thought control line aircraft aren’t really flying. I mean a conker on a string will ‘fly’ in this way. Even a brick on a rope would.
I see what you mean, but no. The plane is flying aerodynamically: the props are providing thrust, the wings are providing lift, and the control surfaces are redirecting the air flow. The conker on a string needs energy to be put in at the centre of the circle. You can loop the loop or do wing overs with a CL plane; you can't if you have a dead weight and just swing it round.
By your argument, no one would paddle a canoe because you can buy a speed boat, no one would ride a bicycle because you can buy a motorbike, and so on. CL flying is a hobby in its own right, with its own skills and challenges. Some people like the charm of simplicity.
Fantastic! When I was a child & my dad, USAF, we built and tried to fly many line controlled model aircraft. In my youth I've seen the P-38 & B-17 & B-52 massive model airplanes having wing spans 5-feet plus, control line flown. Thanks for the video & reminding me of my love for my father!
Mine hardly started,let alone flew!!!
Awesome. Control Line, RC, Free Flight, Static, who cares, this is all about modellers enjoying building model aircraft and having fun with their hard work. Nothing less than a wonderful passion...
Grew up building and flying Control Line Airplanes. Built a Royal B-17 in the 80s. Converted it from a RC kit for my Dad. Awesome Lancaster.
Incredible model, awesome flying, excellent startup procedure - fuel tanks probably full scale . Congratulations on flying skills.
Beautiful Lancaster...professional work!
Che spettacolo un Lanaster con 4 motori Glow.
Sembra di tornare indietro di 50 anni.
Che bei tempi, ero giovane.
Exelente tu modelo es hermoso !!! Un saludo desde Argentina 🇦🇷
the spectators were so excited and really seemed to enjoy being there. Thanks for posting, i enjoyed it as well.
I flew control line in that exact spot in around 1975 with Doncaster Aeromodellers Club. Still in use today.
Yeah , still going is it ??? Been there a few times. Good spot !
Absolute madness - a 4-engine control-line bomber! What a wonderful idea.
Paul walker of Spokane WA won Controline Precision Arobatics at the Nats(Nationals) with a 4 engine B-17. The Video can still be found on youtube. Check it out!
I cringed when I saw the pit crew member step over the model twice! Once with the flight box! Why take that risk. Just walk around! You never climb over a model. At least that is what I was taught.
absolutly stunning....BRAVO !!!
That's awesome! Never seen a 4 engine control line model. The line pull must be pretty heavy! Looked great in the air. Well done!!
We are flying CL scale in the USA with 2.4 Ghz for throttle control and other stuff, elevator is still with a normal handle. take out the mechanical bellcrank for the throttle with some servos and you have what I fly except with 2.4 Ghz. Some guys are still flying with 3-line but a lot have switched over to the 2.4 ghz. It does look a little tail heavy.
I noticed that too. Was a little nose high or something.
I thought, rather than tail heavy, the wing is set a a high incidence to the fuselage. Looking closely, the wing seems to be meeting the airflow at a reasonable angle, but the fuselage is set nose high. Tail heavy would make it pitch sensitive which it does not appear to be.
We had a club when I was in Jr and Sr high but we never had planes this large.....Things this large were all radio controlled. Didn't have the battery starters either. It was use your finger!!! And when the motor started and you didn't get out of the way, your finger got all screwed up. The ultimate was the "dog fights" they had where several planes were up at the same time and each had a tail streamer and the winner was the plane that didn't get the streamer cut off.
Absolutely marvellous
Such a beautiful model. We had the control line planes as teensages 50 years ago.
That's crazy! Very impressive!
Dude you show up in the most weird places lol.
TAOFLEDERMAUS Haha what r u doing here?
"Crazy" would be increasing the wing area, adding coupled flaps, and doing stunts!
Hey!
flew control line yrs ago,nothing that big.awsome.nice
Not sure where this was filmed but I remember a four engine scale plane looking like that flying at a WAM contest in the 1980's somewhere around Northern California. I remember each engine had the same size tank and the outer engine was started first. That caused the inner left engine to be the last running keeping the lines tight. If I recall when it was down two engines the plane needed to land and taxied on the ground until the last engine stopped. A great feat and not easy to fly. I recall the man leaning back from the pull of the heavy plane. Control line was good fun. Personally I mostly flew combat.
My dad flew in Lancs as a navigator during WW2.
Beautiful scale flight, the trail of exhaust makes it look like a real old warbird.
Awesome! what a handful!
Perfect!! I noticed that you started the outboard engines first so that they would run out of fuel first. This is how you do it with a two engine control line plane. If the inboard engine(s) quit first, the airplane will turn into the circle slackening the lines and causing a crash,
That is terrific. I love control line. Great model and great pilot!
My dad told me how he would fly models on a control line when he was a boy i would have loved to have seen this , thank you for a lovely thought.
Jolly good show!
Wife, "I'm so sorry your arms hurt, Honey. You must have worked too hard in the yard yesterday." Pilot, "Uh, yeah. That must be the reason."
Гарна і якісна модель. Бажаю успіхів!
Awesome and then some.👍👍 ok 4 props and all the motor sync issues, windy conditions, dizziness from spinning, tail dragger - no worries, handled it like a true pro. I’m building a 54” C46 from control line plans from the 50s, converting to electric RC. Thanks for sharing🚀
Hi, How is the C-46 coming along? What do you plan on powering it with? Have you planked before? Thanks, Michael
Excellent. Thank you for sharing
Magnifique
Les deux moteurs qui entraînent le modèle sont de quelle cylindrée chaque un .
..?..cc+ ....?.cc
I did control line in the US from age 8 to 30. I miss it
EXCELLENT BEAUTIFUL AMAZING SUBLIME INMORTAL.. CONTROL LINE RULES. 🛸
Can’t remember the chaps name but we watched him fly one of these on control line and he had retractable undercarriage that he operated via the the lines connected to his control handle powered with a battery pack he carried on his belt,this was at the model flying nationals held in uk in the very early sixties
Seen a B17 U-Control fly many years ago. That was cool to.
Another succesful sortie accomplished, well done!
ready to see now a B 36, 6 turnin, 4 burnin.?
Well done, Very impressive, Great vid
Nice job. Well done.
Stepping over models about garenties that one day you will step on one.
Especially when you are handling a heavy box.
amazing!!
Not to detract from the marvellous job on the model, it needs more area on the horizontal stabilizer....its dragging its tail a bit when its flying. This typically happens in scale models if the builder sticks to the exact scale for all parts. Scale models typically always need their stabs bigger. But great job otherwise. I am sure this comment will come as no surprise to the builder of the model.
Could be tail heavy
You don’t have a clue do you .?
Why was it flying around tail low like that? Heavy and under powered?
That’s a lot of plane. Is the wing at the right attitude on the fuselage? It looks like excessive elevator is needed to keep it flying, and that’s like air brakes.
Landed with engine running. That is difficult without a way to idle the engines. Is there a control from the cables?
Dayyum. This thing is a virtual headhunter.
The delightful sound of a thousand chainsaws
Totally amazing 😮😮😮
Have you ever tried the 3 line control handles?
Yep, usta fly navy carrier. This plane flew like the lines were too short.
Hi, what is the weight of the model?
I saw him a week ago it was going great
I’m watching this thinking - that looks a lot like my archery club in the background. Turns out it is...
amazing! liked and subscribed!
Awesome!
What happens if the pilot gets dizzy from all the spinning?
G'day,
Magnificent !
Thanks for posting this.
;-p
Ciao !
Amazing !
Nice work Bruce! Always a pleasure to watch her fly.
Brilliant.
Its beautiful😎
💐💐💐👍🤪🤪👍🤭🤭😜😂😂😜😜🤣🤣🤣😜😜😜😜😜😜😜
Awesome..Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Seems tail heavy?...weight in the nose?
Super ! pas évident à faire voler
Lean into it, champ!
What are the specs on this model? Engines, weight, wingspan?
I had one as a kid, it was a chipmunk....
That's the definition of a round trip🤣
I'm building a P-38 lightning CL plane at the moment.. it has twin .049 cox engines..
I agree, needs a 2.4 Futaba and 12 ounces less tailweight....but pretty cool
There,s always this one guy lol.Big thumbs up to everyone.
Nice plane but seems tail heavy. Seemed to be flying on the prop thrust, not the wing.
Nice! Looks a little tail heavy though.
It's either tail heavy or the wing is set at 0 incidence.
@@earlyhemibill I was thinking elevator trim, maybe needs a trim tab
to lift the tail when it's ready to fly at take off, to be countered with the
control line in flight.
The stab just needs to be a Lil bigger.. It would fly better give it more lift then the elevator would perform better.. I don't thi k it's just tail heavy..
That is crying out for a remote glow plug system.
Маэстро!
That must be very heavy and you need big muscles
Why is the pilot hanging on to 2 control handles?
Other handle controls the throttles on the motors.
One is for the elevator and the other is for the throttle.
1 is elevator. And the other is throttle, you can spread the weight over both your arms that way.
@@monikatorda1357 OK. We are using 3-line bellcranks and handles, so everything is all in one. What sre the motors?
Bit of an aft CG problem or elevator trim issue !
My dad flew the ringmasters
Sorry but there are better practices for a c/l multi engine model. is not tail but probably nose heavy so pilot must keep continuous up to insure level flight. A 3 line handle ( Roberts type...from the '50 vintage ) and bell crank are still available. Moreover the starting procedure using that heavy equipment is cumbersome and potentially dangerous. remote plug drivers and self contained battery starter can avoid that hassle. awesome effort anyway
Brodak has those bellcranks now. :)
Marbles performance your doing good 👍 job take off and landing out cells
At least it was an outboard engine that quit. Losing one inboard, would cause enough yaw to make the lines go slack. Ask me how I know this!
Wow😊
Awesome line flight! Bravo!
Even with 4 engine running it appears to fly a little stalled in level flight.
Didnt know they got this big of sxale in control lone crazzy stuff and more sketchy then full rc cause you get dizzy doing this
Every time a control line flic comes up, I ask myself WHY? This was a limp method of control until RC came of age.
You chose the wrong adjective with 'limp'. With control line you are actually flying by feeling the air acting on the control surfaces & the g-forces on your wrist. While with RC you never feel what the aircraft is actually doing, you just watch it.
Hope it’s still flying.
After 8 years I think it would be out of fuel ! 🤣
This was impressive but I’ve always thought control line aircraft aren’t really flying. I mean a conker on a string will ‘fly’ in this way. Even a brick on a rope would.
I see what you mean, but no. The plane is flying aerodynamically: the props are providing thrust, the wings are providing lift, and the control surfaces are redirecting the air flow. The conker on a string needs energy to be put in at the centre of the circle. You can loop the loop or do wing overs with a CL plane; you can't if you have a dead weight and just swing it round.
It does look tail heavy
Have never understood the thrill of line control. Not since RC control became available at affordable prices.
I have did lots or control line when I was younger, flew lots of rc models too I would still build a control line model.
That's awesome but all that time and money you made it U/C, you should have put a few 100 more and built it R/C.
that's what I said!!
By your argument, no one would paddle a canoe because you can buy a speed boat, no one would ride a bicycle because you can buy a motorbike, and so on. CL flying is a hobby in its own right, with its own skills and challenges. Some people like the charm of simplicity.
Great !
looked tail heavy
and underpowered even
So old fashioned I could hardly believe my eyes.I was controlling 50 years ago.
1/12th scale?
Bit over 10 foot wing span
@@monikatorda1357 I have started building the plane in 1/12th at about 102". Such a beautiful plane.
ESTA PESADO DE COLA ESE AVION MUY IMPRESIVO PERO MAL VUELO!!!
thats scary as hell
Lancaster!
It looks very tail heavy