Guillows Control line B17 Build

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  • Опубликовано: 20 дек 2024

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  • @sblack48
    @sblack48 9 месяцев назад +18

    I bow down to anyone that can keep 4 cox049s running for any significant period of time

    • @donaldbrittsan984
      @donaldbrittsan984 9 месяцев назад +1

      And no bandaged fingers that I could see 😅

    • @earlyhemibill
      @earlyhemibill 8 месяцев назад +1

      No kidding. I once built a 45" A-26 Invader with a pair of Cox .049s. Once both motors were running, fuel would blow out of the tank fill ports and the motors would die. Turns out it was a propeller balance issue. The vibration was the cause.

    • @iskandartaib
      @iskandartaib 4 месяца назад +1

      What I would have done (being a Combat pilot) would have been to use a surgical bladder tank to feed the four engines. I'd have used those "product" engines that were plentifully available around 2001-2003, these had a backplate but no tank. Better still would have been four Tee Dees.

  • @stephenullman4534
    @stephenullman4534 Год назад +9

    Great build. Couldn't do the "music track" so had to mute that. But other than that it was an impressive build.

  • @Yogenh
    @Yogenh Год назад +2

    You did a great job on it

  • @kayeninetwo3585
    @kayeninetwo3585 8 месяцев назад +4

    Beautiful plane and flight. I've never seen a four engine control line plane before. Thanks for the video!

  • @Rfster900
    @Rfster900 Год назад +42

    From someone who has built many, many Guillow's models as a teenager, I can appreciate the amount of work and skill necessary to make and fly such a wonderful model. Very impressive. Hats off to you Sir. Job well done!

  • @fierceflyer5
    @fierceflyer5 Год назад +58

    An amazing feat getting 4 cox engines running constantly at 1 time. Beautiful model and flight.

    • @haroldbrown1998
      @haroldbrown1998 Год назад +4

      Getting 4 engines running at the same time, takes some patients.

    • @phayzyre1052
      @phayzyre1052 Год назад +1

      It’s an amazing feat getting four Cox baby bee engines! I haven’t seen those engines available in probably 40 years now.

    • @christopherpoucher483
      @christopherpoucher483 Год назад

      4 ok cubs

  • @cmcconn100
    @cmcconn100 Год назад +2

    Nice job keeping it on one piece!

  • @alanparkinson549
    @alanparkinson549 Год назад +2

    Great looking model, and it seems to fly well.
    Must say I'm a little surprised that you appeared to start the engines from the left. If they ran out of fuel in the same order you would end up with only the right engines running and a risk of the model turning into the circle.

    • @walkerworkshop3526
      @walkerworkshop3526  Год назад

      Yes, you're right and that's exactly what happened. Fortunately it hung out there. I was convinced it was safer to start inboard and move out (probably true). In reality it turned out to be like hearding cats and was finally happy just to get them all running at once.

  • @cnnw3929
    @cnnw3929 Год назад +5

    Very nice work, only engines and NO MUSIC! Great video! Thanks!

  • @LBG-cf8gu
    @LBG-cf8gu Год назад +3

    Masterclass! If it were mine I'd retire it to hang in a place of honr; testament to your build skills.

  • @nathanwildthorn6919
    @nathanwildthorn6919 Год назад +3

    This video took me back to the 70s, when I was a model-building fool! 😊

  • @briansutphin4180
    @briansutphin4180 2 месяца назад +1

    Wow!!!! I've built a few, and watched countless hours of video of folks building Guillows models.... This is by far the nicest example that I've ever seen.... Nice job, what a beautiful model!

  • @MrStoney61
    @MrStoney61 9 месяцев назад +2

    Man, That was just beautiful!! Cox.049s AND C/L! SUPERBLY built and flown. Thank you.

  • @francismoran1230
    @francismoran1230 3 месяца назад +1

    Wow! That’s incredible, what a beautiful build. Congrats. I’ve never seen a control line flight.

  • @additudeobx
    @additudeobx Год назад +2

    Awesome Job. I have always loved the B-17...

  • @Kempton3200
    @Kempton3200 Год назад +3

    Thanks for making this video!

  • @jetpack5
    @jetpack5 17 дней назад +1

    You are a brave builder and a good pilot😊

  • @greglivo
    @greglivo Год назад +9

    It's amazing to see someone still flying control line. I remember taking one of my 1/2A home built planes to the local public flying field in the early 2000's. I couldn't believe the amount of sneers and negative comments I got from the R/C guys. I would have thought most of them had grown up on control line as I did.

    • @rescue270
      @rescue270 10 месяцев назад +1

      I went into a big box hobby store and asked if they had any control line supplies and they acted like I had just asked them if they had any 8-track tapes or original paint for an AMC Gremlin.
      Never went there again.
      Control Line will rise again.

  • @perspicator5779
    @perspicator5779 9 месяцев назад +2

    Beautiful!

  • @Toscanto
    @Toscanto 11 месяцев назад +2

    Bravo pour cette belle forteress B17....plus petite que celle de l'équipe des USA .F2B...pilote Orestes...
    Le bruit de la petite est d'ailleurs assez semblable sue sur celle d'accro.... très surprenant .
    Vraiment bravo...!!😎👍👍

  • @kerrybassett4468
    @kerrybassett4468 10 месяцев назад +2

    wow, thanks for posting this video, very impressive.

  • @sadskytristeciel1439
    @sadskytristeciel1439 2 месяца назад +1

    Wow, your cat play well the piano. Amazing build! ; )

  • @arthurjennings5202
    @arthurjennings5202 Год назад +3

    The thing I liked best about flying control line airplanes, it was easy to find the pile. Beautiful bird. Great job of flying losing engines one at a time.

  • @garyruxton5226
    @garyruxton5226 Год назад +2

    When I was a teen I built a profile 3-engine control line .049 plane. Right away I saw I had a stronger engine on the outboard as it turned into me after takeoff. So after repair that engine went inboard and I used a syringe to top off waiting a bit to do the inboard last. For you it didn't matter as you brought it down before a longer running engine could turn it in on you.

    • @garyruxton5226
      @garyruxton5226 11 месяцев назад

      Funny, I had the exact same experience as you in high school. It couldn't be saved running backwards and trying to get tight those 50 foot lines to get it down. Our teacher would say it is easier and cheaper to fly through air than dirt, which applied to me anyway because we had to do 3 laps under 3 feet to earn our wings and I never could do that. I probably should have used my slow go Cox PT-19 trainer.

  • @clementevaldez1271
    @clementevaldez1271 Год назад +2

    That is one amazing beautiful build ...and flown perfectly l!!!!.... 👏

  • @POCarton
    @POCarton 9 месяцев назад +2

    Oh I remember those Guillow's kits well. All those balsa stringers, but they produce a beautiful plane. Great job building and flying with 4 cox .049's. That is challenge enough. Hope your leg is doing well.

  • @paultanker5606
    @paultanker5606 Месяц назад +1

    G'day to you, Wow talk about blast from the Passed. Circa '64/65 back in the UK my Dad bought me a Cox Helldiver for Christmas, I thought Line Control a thing of the Past! Armadale West Australia.

    • @walkerworkshop3526
      @walkerworkshop3526  Месяц назад

      @@paultanker5606 thanks for the message. I started with a Cox pt 19, hence a little why this is powered by the same little engines. Keep an eye out, Perth is rumoured to be bidding to host the 2026 control line World champs.

  • @JosephStately
    @JosephStately Год назад +17

    Very impressive. The finished model, maiden flight & your attention to detail is amazing.

  • @TonyButchT
    @TonyButchT 8 месяцев назад +4

    Absolutely Fantastic!!! Drone of four Baby Bees is a rare blessing!

  • @scottmorse1798
    @scottmorse1798 5 месяцев назад +1

    well done, especially the cliff hanger 1 engine landing

  • @robertfarrar6212
    @robertfarrar6212 Год назад +1

    Lovely! Four Babe Bees, A Gullow's B-17, great build, and flight! A+!

  • @timeflysintheshop
    @timeflysintheshop Год назад +3

    I built exactly this same kit in my youth (late 80's)! I too had four .049 cox engines on mine as well, but they were not all the same and I never could get all four running at the same time. I never painted it, or ever flew it before it suffered some major hangar rash! The hanger was under my bed! Watching this video was like watching a dream of my youth come true! Great job! Thanks for sharing your triumph!

  • @kenkingsflyingmachines2382
    @kenkingsflyingmachines2382 Год назад +3

    I don't think I've ever seen this model finished the way the Guillows folks say on the box! What an accomplishment.
    Sorry about the leg.

  • @youknoweverything7643
    @youknoweverything7643 2 месяца назад +1

    This was the first balsa and tissue plane I ever built when I was 16 and it turned out amazing it flew great on itd maiden and only flew it three times cause I spent a lot of time putting super realistic details on it cause it was for a science project in highschool in physics class for the subject of aerodynamics and we had to build something or a model of something that works that uses aerodynamics and physics to work. So I chose this monster and I converted it to RC instead of control line and it flew amazing it's still hanging in myan cave/hobby building room in my house to this day and I dust it weekly cause it's so beautiful. I eventually put super thin balsa sheets on it and painted it instead of the tissue paper to make it look more realistic model wise and still flew great after paint and sheeting it all in. And I used four of the exact same engines as you used as well cause it's cooler with four and more scale then just two but I also beefed her up and made a stronger spar since I was going with a full RC conversion and the extra weight of twoore engines so it can handle more gs and more sharper turns then it would have if I didn't beef it up and it was fast as heck to but doing the sheets and paint mader her more sturdy and slowed down the roll and response rates a tiny bit but not enough to worry about. I might fly her this weekend at a fly in actually since I saw this video. Everyone loves it when I bring it out the last time it flew four years ago cause how scale it looked and it was one of the best conversions they have seen to RC of this kit ever some said. But I used a model kit in same scale and 3d printed a lot of scale parts to make it as scale as possible. And it's got all nav lights working and even the cockpit the lights and buttons and switches light up and the little screens light up green and the radar screen lights up and looks like it's actually a radar with the line moving and circle and all it was a lot of work with fiber optic wires to get it all working and uv resin to make the screens

    • @walkerworkshop3526
      @walkerworkshop3526  2 месяца назад

      @@youknoweverything7643 wow, sure sounds an amazing model with incredible detail for its size. Hope to see it one day

  • @steveperry1344
    @steveperry1344 9 месяцев назад +1

    that was a super job building the plane and the flight. i built many guillows fighter planes as a boy and we had several cox motors in different sizes. great show.

  • @Sulfuron41
    @Sulfuron41 Год назад +1

    I have this exact model sitting in the box still wrapped in my garage that I have been sitting on for close on 10 years now. This video is an inspiration to perhaps finally take it down, open it up and get started! Thank you!!

    • @walkerworkshop3526
      @walkerworkshop3526  Год назад

      Don't feel bad, mine sat for at least twice that long and circumstances being different would probably still be sitting there

  • @duderguy1571
    @duderguy1571 Год назад +2

    Remarkable build and finish work. Excellent job.

  • @David-hm9ic
    @David-hm9ic 6 месяцев назад +1

    Loved the slideshow style of the build. Congrats on a very nice model!

  • @stillfishing4sheep
    @stillfishing4sheep 5 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant, watching you fly seems to explain how to not get dizzy when flying. And the plane is awesome!

  • @scotabot7826
    @scotabot7826 8 месяцев назад +1

    WOW!!!! What a super clean build. Just so beautiful. You have a wonderful eye as well as talent.

  • @cudaman-yq7pq
    @cudaman-yq7pq Год назад +5

    So nice to see a U-control model in action, thank you! :)

  • @PHILDRU911
    @PHILDRU911 Год назад +1

    Great Job! Didn't know anyone was flying them. Had a Corsair in Schweinfurt, FRG in 1974. It had a .035 w/ a 32" wingspan. Pulled me out of the circle! Just cool stuff!

  • @downwindchecklist6567
    @downwindchecklist6567 Год назад +5

    Really stunning finish! And a great flight too. For sure a feat you can be proud of. Thank you for sharing!

  • @terrybolin1518
    @terrybolin1518 Год назад +14

    5 stars! Gullow kits were not the easier ones to build and you converted to CL. Outstanding job and finish. Thanks for posting and I enjoyed the flight.

  • @furmaster212
    @furmaster212 Год назад +1

    Always wanted to build one of these to fly it but never had 4 cox engines all at once, the finish is absolutely GORGEOUS sir!

  • @josec.278
    @josec.278 Год назад +1

    Kiwi ingenuity at its best. Greetings from Hawkes bay model flying club.❤

  • @gmorphan
    @gmorphan Год назад +3

    That was a great example of what you can achieve with patients, skill and nerves of steel. I seem to only be able to muster up any two of those three at a time.

  • @jprules2578
    @jprules2578 Год назад +2

    For pre-shading I definitely would use a dark grey for the underside, and then a lighter green on the topside, and then (even if using the darker color as you did) I would airbrush within the panels, filling out the space towards the panel lines. So the slight overspray from each panel slightly obscures the line without completely covering it. With that said...absolutely beautiful work from beginning to end on that Fortress.

  • @MultiSkyman1
    @MultiSkyman1 Год назад

    Nice job and beautiful location.

  • @JohnHill-qo3hb
    @JohnHill-qo3hb Год назад +1

    Great video, fantastic build job another well done.

  • @walk4718
    @walk4718 Год назад +2

    Sweet build and flight!! Energy management was spot on👍👍

  • @IJ-E36
    @IJ-E36 Год назад +1

    Well done! Great choice going 4 engine, it flew surprisingly well one 1.

  • @65peterbilt
    @65peterbilt Год назад +1

    Amazing build my friend you have a lot of talent , having built many models and knowing that just getting one of the motors to run right let alone 4 ! Great job!

  • @marcellagrand1322
    @marcellagrand1322 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice work Dan

  • @First112
    @First112 Год назад +4

    Beautifully built and flown- those Guillow kits are a tough build- you are a master!

  • @hyoklee3297
    @hyoklee3297 10 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome build and fly. Beautiful model.

  • @rayscherry2383
    @rayscherry2383 7 месяцев назад +1

    Always stat the out board motors first,great job on the model

  • @aftertheendtimes
    @aftertheendtimes 6 месяцев назад

    Awesome! It is still amazing with control line airplanes, never stoped loveing it,..

  • @jdmforever5583
    @jdmforever5583 Год назад +1

    Geez it's bad enough contending with one of these Cox engines to keep running good job👍

  • @flyingfortressrc1794
    @flyingfortressrc1794 Год назад +4

    That is so cool.
    You did a great job with the build and flight.
    I'm going to build mine RC someday because I'd fall down if I had to go around in a circle. Lol

  • @andrewfarrow4699
    @andrewfarrow4699 Год назад +1

    I saw this inside the gym at the Nats and had a good look. Super impressive. I really wanted to see it fly so thanks for posting this vid. I fly scale RC and I just thought this kit would make a beautiful little electric RC parkfly.

    • @walkerworkshop3526
      @walkerworkshop3526  Год назад +1

      Yes, sure is. I was hoping to fly it there but it was not the best conditions for a test flight

  • @stevejackson3564
    @stevejackson3564 Год назад +1

    Beautiful build. I enjoyed the flight.

  • @dbaider9467
    @dbaider9467 Год назад +1

    This is excellent. Can't wait to see what you produce when you break your other leg.

  • @Rob-vv5yn
    @Rob-vv5yn Год назад +1

    Great effort !!! Need to get building again myself

  • @donaldvincent
    @donaldvincent Год назад +1

    Fantastic!!!! I am almost finished with this same model. Not as difficult as yours. Doing mine as a static display dressed in chrome monokote. My hat is off to you sir. Your looks beautiful and flies like an angel. I love it!

  • @jonviol
    @jonviol Год назад +1

    Far out man - groovy in the mists!!! Better than day time telly !!!!!!!!!

  • @andrasbalogh7659
    @andrasbalogh7659 Год назад +1

    Fantastic! The helper should have filled up the tanks of all 4 Bees before launching so that all engines run all the way hill landing..

    • @walkerworkshop3526
      @walkerworkshop3526  Год назад +1

      Did try that, but they flooded and stopped. Next time I plan to get them all running and warm then, beginning outboard, stop each one, top up and restart. The little blighters start much easier hot.

  • @RoddieRI
    @RoddieRI Год назад +3

    Impressive how it will still maintain altitude with X3 engines-out... just like the full-scale aircraft. Kudos to YOU.. and "also" to the Guillow's designer responsible for putting together this model kit. The GNR piano track made me smile; being that I'm a piano-player. Sounded very much like my old "Francis Bacon" cabinet-grand (upright) piano.

    • @walkerworkshop3526
      @walkerworkshop3526  Год назад +1

      I was also surprised how well it handled as the engines stopped then finally on the outboard one only. Lightweight airframe I guess, built to the kit with few deviations.
      Your close with the soundtrack. We have an old pianola that I got going. Making the GNR scroll for it was a lockdown project.

    • @walkerworkshop3526
      @walkerworkshop3526  Год назад

      youtube.com/@thepianolabogan8980

  • @cudathehawgjetfixer7520
    @cudathehawgjetfixer7520 Год назад +1

    You have more patience then I do. I've built a few Gallows kits only to the point of total frustration, then the kit was doomed to the shelf of shame for the rest of it's existence, then tragically destroyed by one of many moves across the country! I'm more receptive of my static plastic model kits, plus the glue doesn't give me a migraine after a couple of hours of use!

  • @jsiegel62
    @jsiegel62 Год назад +1

    Very nicely done...true to the spirit of both kit and full-scale aircraft.

  • @TimJohnstonadventures
    @TimJohnstonadventures Год назад +3

    Amazing build and fantastic flight well done. Hope you back to full strength after the coming together with the car!

  • @darnick54
    @darnick54 9 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely brilliant. Loved this. Inspiring

  • @markmcriley2558
    @markmcriley2558 Год назад +3

    Awesome build. Fantastic finish. Not to armchair, but this is a great place to use the zero-drag starter springs to get the engines running quicker without any reverse runs.

  • @garymaclean6903
    @garymaclean6903 Год назад +1

    Interesting how well it would seem to stay in the air with one engine running. Looks like you were able to keep it light.
    Also, seeing how the outboard engine would be the last to run out, I would have started the engines from the outboard side first, so there would be less inward torque when the inboard engines stop. An electric starter would help. Also I would warm up each engine, stop, then top them up, to get the already warm engines to re-start quickly, and the longest flight out of the tanks.
    I grew up starting on 1/2 A Cox engines. Advanced to racing 15's in Goodyear Scale Racing. My brothers and I competed in club meets in Ontario and the US, including winning The Canadian Nationals, and setting several National Records. We were as good as many of the best racers who came up from the US to compete. Then took on FAI F2C Team Racing, where we qualified for the Canadian Team 6 times and competed in the World Championships held in the Netherlands, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, France, China, and Sweden. We had a hard time competing with the European teams who raced with each other far more regularly. We typically finished mid-pack, which in light of our experience and lack of the latest cutting-edge equipment was about as good as we were going to get. To get to qualify to our national team, and get 125-mph out of a 15 diesel was an accomplishment that built character, and produced much satisfaction. A search of FAI F2C Team Racing World Championships will show what it's all about...
    Some comments below mention how some RC fliers often look down on U/C fliers. That's just pure ignorance on their part...

  • @chrisnichols4962
    @chrisnichols4962 Год назад +2

    Great work and beautifully flown. 👏👏

  • @dave882
    @dave882 5 месяцев назад

    Last thing I’d expect to see in 2024 is someone building a control line plane again 😂. Been a long long time

  • @troydavis0824
    @troydavis0824 Год назад +2

    Very nice build and nice flying model! Recommend starting the engines 4, 3, 2, 1 (right to left), especially if not topping tanks before release. Last thing you want is the asymmetric thrust of an outside the circle engine (3, 4) turning the plane into you as the inside the circle (1, 2) engines cut at fuel starvation.

  • @daleharvey4442
    @daleharvey4442 Год назад +1

    I Like The B17 It Is A Really Cool Airplane

  • @RoddieRI
    @RoddieRI Год назад +1

    So Cool. You could bypass the 5cc integral tanks by drilling holes in the four Cox 5cc tank bowls.. and routing some silicone (Dubro small) fuel line to a central manifold/tank. The Bee backplate/NVA has absolutely no problem drawing fuel.

  • @OctoberWraith-gg4pe
    @OctoberWraith-gg4pe Год назад +1

    Nice job 👍👏

  • @hugejohnson5011
    @hugejohnson5011 Год назад +1

    Quite a control line build sir! I wasn't aware that it was still a thing, much less a master builder level machine like thisI Great flying too! I had at least 30 control line aeroplanes as a kid, (Long story), and ended up with so many Testors ready built ones, that I would launch them free flight, watch them climb, bank, and nose into the ground!

  • @starpartyguy5605
    @starpartyguy5605 Год назад

    I remember the one control line plane I had. My dad decided to significantly shorten the lines. His balance was doing pretty good for about 3 laps. Then he sunk to his knees! One of his funniest moments.

  • @sandybarrie5526
    @sandybarrie5526 Год назад +1

    oh that takes me back.. built many guillows kits

  • @mikecarbone828
    @mikecarbone828 Год назад +1

    I would have liked to see this built as an electric RC airplane, I think it would have been a lot more rewarding, and fun, to be able to control the aircraft more completely and less constrained. It seemed like the aircraft really wanted to fly more freely than just doing circles around the ball field.
    Beautiful build!
    Thank you for posting this video!
    Please have an excellent and awesome day!
    ☀️✨✈️

    • @JohnSmith-dr3gd
      @JohnSmith-dr3gd Год назад +2

      If he had built it as an electric RC aeroplane, it would’ve been just another dull soulless model. Don’t get me wrong, electrics & RC are great, but this is something on a whole different level. I don’t think many people on this earth can say they’ve successfully flown a model powered by FOUR Cox 0.49’s! Heck, I doubt there’d be that many people around today that could actually start one and keep it running through a tank of gas. Electrics, meh, just plug it in and it goes.

  • @montylc2001
    @montylc2001 Год назад

    Have this kit in my stash along with the B-25, plan on making both control line...yours looks fabulous and flew great.

  • @florabee9283
    @florabee9283 9 месяцев назад +1

    I used to gaze in awe and wonder at the engine conversion drawings in the Guillows/Sterling/Comet balsa kits and wonder what badass would dare manage to do that- now I know it simply requires being knocked off a pushbike and having a semi-tuned spinet!

  • @Yogenh
    @Yogenh Год назад +1

    Looks like it flies really nice

    • @walkerworkshop3526
      @walkerworkshop3526  Год назад

      Yes it did thanks. It was only going to be a one off but flew better than expected so keen to do it again.

  • @RWildekrav66
    @RWildekrav66 Год назад

    Impressive landing too .

  • @bernardc2553
    @bernardc2553 Год назад +1

    FLIP-N-FANTASTIC Bravo 👏

  • @flyboywbl
    @flyboywbl Год назад +4

    Looks so nice. Great work!

  • @donaldgrant9067
    @donaldgrant9067 Год назад +1

    I converted the old Douglas Dauntless Guillows into a U control. Had to beef up a few areas but it flew fine. I over powered it with a 15 size motor in it. Also as a kid converted the Newport 11 I believe, the French WWI biplane. I put in an .089 motor in it.

  • @chrisnichols4962
    @chrisnichols4962 2 месяца назад +2

    I hear why the engines are called Bees. 😂

  • @MultiSteveB
    @MultiSteveB Год назад +1

    I wish RUclips had an option in the playback speed setting to keep or disable pitch correction. That way, when playing the flight back at 1/4 speed it would make the engines sound a bit deeper. :D

  • @chrislong3938
    @chrislong3938 Год назад +1

    I didn't know control line models were still around!!!

  • @earlyhemibill
    @earlyhemibill 8 месяцев назад +1

    After calculating the time and length of lines. it figures that the plane is flying at about 27 MPH, a nice speed for that model. Won't screw you into the ground.

  • @llewev
    @llewev 10 месяцев назад +1

    I had one of those engines 50 when I was a kid in the 60's.

  • @MH-fb5kr
    @MH-fb5kr 8 месяцев назад +1

    BRAVO… GREAT JOB❗️

  • @t.travelerjg1908
    @t.travelerjg1908 Год назад +1

    Great build and flight. Pre-shading works best on light colors, like the gray undersides; post-shading would be a little better for OD green.

  • @piloto5248
    @piloto5248 Год назад +1

    Wow job well done......

  • @nerome619
    @nerome619 Год назад +1

    very well done!