My intention was never to cause division and arguments between brothers and sisters of Christ. I was just sharing my personal conviction and even though it may not be everyone’s conviction that is ok❤️ I think we can all agree the most important thing is sharing God with the world around us and letting our lights shine for Him. I personally don’t think the topic of the head covering is a salvation issue so therefore it should not be what divides us🙏
Praise Jesus. Thank you for this testimony and the verses mentioned. I have been around this topic for a while and never seem to find someone giving a testimony that God told them to take off the veil, usually its the other way around. Bless you for taking a stand and for your bravery in making this video. God bless.
On Corinth the priestesses of Aphrodite would take off their coverings to prophesy and that was creeping into the church which was what Paul was addressing when talking about having their heads uncovered. The Holy Spirit and the Bible will never contradict each other , and when we say that we don't need to do what the Bible says we are setting ourselves above God, saying we don't need to do what he says. I am not trying to condemn you but please rethink this! Thinking of your experience of saying you will do whatever the holy Spirit will ask of you, Satan can take that and seem very real and disguise himself as an angel of light. Who did he go after in the garden? He went after the woman with something that "seemed" so real and spiritual. Please be careful.♥️
@@user-oe2or5jb2r Your obscure alleged story about priestesses of Aphrodite that would take off their coverings to prophesy sounds very much like a scare tactic. You claim that this alleged story is what “Paul was addressing when talking about having their heads uncovered.” How would you know what was in Paul’s head? What writings are you using to claim this idea so one can verify? Because I have read many other stories about why Paul wrote this and this is a new one to be sure. It is true that the Holy Spirit and the Bible will never contradict each other which I think no one here is doing. It would seem that you are likely following a different story and interpretation of the Bible. Are you using the KJV? Paul was referring to long hair as the covering so to say that “we don't need to do what the Bible says” would be an error the correct idea is that we don’t need to do what someone else had interpreted. Though I am not sure what other writings you are using but may I suggest that you stick to the KJV and really go through this passage carefully because there are no words that mention cloth or fabric but there are several words or phrases that Paul used that identify with hair (hair 3x, shorn 2x and shaven 2x). The enemy has played with people’s beliefs through corrupt manuscripts and translations so I urge you to be careful in what you are reading and from where they come from. God bless.
I went through cancer and chemo in 2017. I lost all of my hair and didn't get all of it back for two years. I learned through that experience what a gift from God my hair was. I now proudly wear my hair uncovered because it grew back so beautiful and the Holy Spirit realize the blessing that it is and God's gift to me. Thank you for your testimony and your sweet Godly spirit that you have. You are an inspiration to me and many others. I would like to say that I do not judge others who feel like they should wear a covering because they are doing it from the heart and the Lord sees and knows that 🌹
I'm glad your hair grew back! Mine is just starting to come back, but im still under a scarf for now. I've been wearing them 4 years now and I'm kinda used to it!
I can really relate to you, Suetta. I was convicted of the headcovering. God showed me it can be an idol, and it can be who you are serving instead of Jesus. Thank you for your courage to step out in faith. God bless you!
SuEtta, dear sister, thank you for your testimony about head coverings I am almost 73 and have been walking with the Lord for about 54 years. Although I have never worn a head covering, I have known many sisters that have struggled with that subject. I am so thankful that you listened to your Lord and that your husband affirmed that you indeed were hearing! My husband passed away last year and is with Jesus now. But I have always known that the Lord wanted me to have a meek and quiet spirit to be obedient and honor my husband. In so doing, we are adorning the doctrine of Christ in our lives & our husband's.
In the middle east, lots of older women like us wear a scarf, while their modern daughters are out slaying 'em. It's not religious, it's secular trend means you blend right in with the crowd! Scarf up! It's for everybody!
Sweet girl, I am seeing so many similarities between your walk with God and my own! I wasn’t raised Amish, but my family was not Christian. We had alcohol around, and with my older siblings came some drug use. I was abused by more than one distant relative…. At eleven I found myself in a church. Jesus did a work that amazes me yet today! He taught me holiness! He taught me also how to dress and about my hair being my covering. With that not only my family said it wasn’t needed, so did the church I was attending. But I knew what God put in my heart. And then later I found scriptures to back up what I was feeling convictions about. I know I was in such a place the Lord let me feel it before I read it and before any human spoke it to me! He knew I wouldn’t except it if it came any other way. Sooo, keep listening and following his voice! His sheep know his voice! He gives us the Holy Ghost to lead us and guide us into all truth! We haven’t arrived yet, but he’s guiding, he’s speaking! Don’t let any nay sayers discourage you. Your creator is giving you precious nuggets of truth! I’m very proud of you! 🥰 praying for you!
My Dear Lady I am sorry to hear of the issues you had to go through and as sad it they were it seems you are following a misinterpreted doctrine. You claim that Jesus taught you how to dress and about your hair being your covering. How exactly did Jesus do that? What verses are you relying on? Or are you perhaps saying there was some religious experience? You would probably be surprised how many people have said that God put something in their hearts later to find some obscure scripture that can be manipulated to read it the way one wants to read it. Convictions may be nice about some things but when it comes to claiming something to be a doctrine we would need more than just a feeling. For example if we were to focus on the KJV we won’t find words necessary to confirm head coverings like cloth, fabric or veil. It just says that the woman’s head ought to be covered. Paul was referring to hair. If the covering is long hair (verse 15) then to be uncovered means to be with short hair. The lack of head covering words is the most glaring thing here instead we get words for hair written 7 times throughout the passage. So if you believe in reading in context then we cannot assume that to be covered means to be covered in a hat or veil. Therefore in context it would seem that to be covered means to be covered in long hair and to be uncovered means to not be covered in long hair or to be more precise "short hair." When confronted by these facts most people tend to ignore them or just pass it off as someone being disobedient. Most do not want to provide evidence of their beliefs though they declare it as though it was universally accepted. I can only hope that God illuminates you from this doctrine as it doesn’t help anyone in any way in fact it causes more problems as some women really think that they cannot pray at all unless something separate is on their heads. God wants you and everyone here to be free from man-made and misinterpreted doctrines. His words are there to read and confirm that they constantly refer to hair and not a hat or a veil. God will help if you allow him. God bless and I will be praying for you.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter If the hair is given the women for a covering and men aren’t supposed to be covered then why don’t they have their heads shaved ?
@@user-eb3xv3cx1z First of all one should note that a woman’s long hair is her covering according to verse 15. If the “covering” is long hair then to be “uncovered” means to have short hair. So if a man’s head should be uncovered, it is obvious that Paul is not saying a man’s head should be shaved bald. Logic dictates that if a woman’s head ought to be covered and say that it is to mean covered in LONG hair, then to be uncovered means the opposite, to not be covered in long hair. This implies that the person would have SHORT hair. So uncovered is not shaved bald it just means short hair.
I hadn't seen your channel in a long time but I caught you on Facebook and I thought, something is different about Sue. You seem so full of the Spirit and Grace. I too have a man fear. I hope I could be as strong as you if the Lord asks something of me. Please continue to share. God bless you.
There are 2 spirits please remember that!! God would not tell you to uncover your head.... that verse says the hair is FOR a covering it doesn't say it is a covering... please study into that a little more... blessings
With all due respect not putting on a hat or veil is not uncovering one's head. Paul was referring to hair. If the covering is long hair (verse 15) then to be uncovered means to be which short hair. Your play with words about "for" or "is" is irrelevant. Lets see if rephrasing it would help .... For a covering God gave women long hair. The word "for" does not diminish the idea that hair is a covering. It certainly does the job of covering the head. But the most glaring thing about this is that there are no words like fabric or cloth or even the word veil in the KJV that one can point to and say they are referring to a separate object. In stead we get words for hair written 7 times throughout the passage. So if you believe in reading in context then we cannot assume that to be covered means to be covered in a hat or veil. Therefore in context it would seem that to be covered means to be covered in long hair and to be uncovered means to not be covered in long hair or to be more precise "short hair." Like you said studying the Bible a little more makes us understand that at no time does Paul used words to define a synthetic covering as matter fact he repeatedly refers to hair. God bless.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter ok so if it means the hair is the covering then all men should shave their heads because they are not to be covered?? If people would stick with the original writing of the bible and not the revised ones maybe they wouldn't be so confused.
Let's be careful when we say the Holy Spirit told us to do something. May we truly search HIS word before we do something ! I would like to share this For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a women to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. This further explains the last part of verse 5. By going unveiled, a woman brings herself the same measure of shame that would accompany the shaving of the head. The grammatical construction in the greek would permit this rendering. " Since it is a shame for a woman to be ..." In that time and place, for a woman to cut her hair was still regarded as a shame. Thus this verse deals with more than just a veiled head; it speaks to cutting the hair Undoubtedly, shorn or cut hair is longer than hair that has been shaven, but it is here represented as equally shameful. Notice the expression "shorn or shaven." Both are categorized as shameful. On top of that, not wearing the covering is also equally shameful. A woman shows the God ordained witness by having her head covered.
Look at it as God’s spiritual headship for His people. Also comparing other scripture that God has said is very important than to isolate a verse or a chapter. God talks about not pleasing man which she made clear. We answer to God not man. God also says in His word that he looks at the heart not outward appearance. Just because someone dresses plain and wears a covering doesn’t make it right. God sees if their is pride in our hearts. It’s just not people dressing plain it can go for those that don’t. When a attitude of I think I’m better it is pride. We are all sinners and have fallen short. We are to honor God with all are heart, mind, and body. How is someone able to do that living in fear that there prayers are not going to reach God if it is not covered? It goes back to the heart. God sees why women cover and if it is becoming an idol and a burden. Remember the gospel is full of addressing the religious people. Our salvation is in what Jesus did on the cross. Not by our works. Blessings to you❤
@@elle_nolt this is why people turn away from Western Christianity. You guys have a comprehension struggle. Luckily, this is NOT the rest of the world.
that was a jewish practice but it seems like reverting back to rules. If this lady prays and feels convicted and is walking with the Lord then she is correctly guided
I really appreciate this testimony, and I believe you when you say you sensed the Lord telling you to take the head covering off. You made a commitment to Him that you would obey him WHATEVER He says. He heard that and answered. I also agree with the scripture that you used to back up that conviction. I believe, too, that the Lord has given my long, uncut hair as a covering. I thought it very interesting that you pointed out how God’s word talks about our HEAD being covered, NOT our hair. I need to go back and read those verses again. I appreciate you being willing to share this.
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sara-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible. I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.” I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11. It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased. You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief. The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality. Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil. I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless. “Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
So amazing how the Holy Spirit works in us and teaches us, right? My experience was the other way around for a period. I come from a very different background than you, I come out of a atheistic family, went in to Witchcraft and by the grace of God got saved and born again at the age of 33. But boy was there a lot of sanctification to do in me! I know, in everyone an we are never done until we are with Him. But for me a lot of my issues were about pride and stubbornness on one side and fear of men on the other. At one point God asked me to start to wear head covering and I just didn't dare because of what people would think of me. But then I tried it out when I was all alone and asked God to confirm for me if this was really what he was asking of me. So I wore a head covering and started to pray. And the Holy Spirit came and the peace and warmth that you also describe came over me so strongly. So I started wearing it fulltime after that. In that period God taught me important lessons about headship, surrendering to Him, being submissive to my husband, praying constantly and obeying God even when people would talk about me. It was just for a period of two years though, and then I felt it was enough. I did feel a bit of the fear of men again, what would people think about me now! But it was enough and I had peace uncovering now. So grateful for what the Holy Spirit is doing in each of our lives, exactly the way we need it personally. Thank you for you testimony, it was good to hear :) Be blessed!
Thankfully one does not need to wear a veil in order to know the peace and warmth that comes from the Holy Spirit, in addition to learning important lessons about headship, surrendering to God, being submissive to a husband, praying constantly and obeying God. I am thankful to God that I have met many many women who have received the Holy Spirit and are following God's words and can see for myself how God alone can change someone to become a daughter in Christ. I pray that we all follow God and his words and not someone's interpretation regarding 1st Corinthians 11:1-16, especially verse 15 for us to understand what Paul was actually teaching. God bless.
Keep fighting the good fight,Girl. God doesn’t want us to fight about this issue.,You do what God called you to do and that’s What we All Should be doing is listening to Gods Quiet Voice above the loud voices of everyone and everything…….,💕Hugs I’ve been there as well……A lot of this really shows you who are truly your friends
Hey suetta! I love love this! Years ago after we left the amish, i had that same struggle. I have a pretty similar story to what you have! Very excited that you were willing to obey, even though a lot of people are never gonna understand!
Did you ever think about the anabaptists and how they were persecuted for their faith? When a anabaptist/Christian was being tortured, and there was crowds watching, I don't think the Christians stood out so (for example wearing a head covering, maybe wearing a plain coat) because if they stood out in the crowds as a Christian they would be persecuted immediately. I believe Christians dressed exactly like the culture around them. The only thing that made them different was the Holy Spirit living in their hearts and people could tell how they lived their life not by how they dressed.
@@rhondalayman2315 If I am not mistaken, most women wore something on their heads in the 1500's. We have drawings of the early Anabaptists and the women are covered. The early Church writings speak of a covering being worn especially in a Church service and when out in public. Yes, they dressed like the simple peasants of their day. Simple unadorned clothing with no outward bodily adornment was the style. I used to be New Order Amish.
What does church history have to do with the Bible. Catholic church history preaches the pope, that they are infallible, purgatory, infant baptism, works for salvation. Church history is not the same as scriptural evidence. Please rethink your logic.
I suppose that same spirit will also convict you of wearing a dress or skirt and that you should wear pants??? I’m so confused how the Holy Spirit convicts some women to wear a veil and then also convicts others not to wear one!!!! I don’t believe God and the Holy Spirit give us confusion like that!!!
Did you watch the rest of the video when she pulls out scripture to prove that what the Holy Spirit told her matched? What confusion are you talking about?
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter I watched the entire video! The confusion is that I know many women who started covering their heads because the scripture and the Holy Spirit made it clear to them that they should cover!! None of these women grew up in homes that even taught about covering or even knew it was in the scriptures until they became a Christian and started searching the Word of God and following the Holy Spirits leading!! The confusion to me is WHY would God ask some to cover and others to uncover????? Also by the way those that uncover are almost always 100% women that grew up being covered but possibly never being taught what the scripture actually means.
@@janetmast1771 Well just as offer a bit of information just as you mentioned that you knew many women who started wearing them who never knew it was in the scriptures. There is an entire group of Mennonites who OBVIOUSLY grew up knowing this "interpretation" of the head covering and obviously grew up on that who broke from the this belief and do not wear a hat or veil. This was very shocking to me when I learned about that. So whether one were never taught or knew all too well this interpretation (like the Mennonites) is irrelevant. I agree that it is confusing to think that God would ask some to cover and others to uncover. That is why I believe he wouldn't. The problems lies with peoples misinterpretation of what is the covering. Verse 15 says LONG hair is the covering. There are far too many verses that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Paul is referring to hair whether it be long or short which he refers to as covered or uncovered.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter I’m not talking of Mennonites covering!! I’m talking of people that nothing to do with religious groups but God got a hold of their lives!! The change in their hearts and lives is obvious that Jesus saved them!! They are seeking after God and the Holy Spirit has led them to be convicted to cover! Are they following the Wrong God and Holy Spirit????????
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible. I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.” I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11. It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased. You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief. The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality. Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil. I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless. “Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
I haven't watched this yet, so I cannot fully understand why you may think "the holy spirit convicted you" to take your covering off, but I would just like to say: God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible. I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.” I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11. It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased. You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief. The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality. Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil. I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless. “Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
The Bible never refers to a head covering but that the head should be covered and given the context the scriptures ar clearly referring to hair that is long and can be shorn or shaven. Context proves its hair. I will be praying for you.
@@Celticmist-qz6ve hi, this is not misinterpreted. I believe you have misinterpreted. God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible. I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.” I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11. It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased. You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief. The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality. Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil. I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless. “Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
Well If the woman’s head is supposed to be covered and that in LONG hair then when it says that the man should be Uncovered they simply mean NOT COVERED IN LONG HAIR (aka short hair) anywhere and everywhere. You are for some reason associating the word uncovered with a shaved head. Therefore the logic you mention fails because you are not understanding the meaning of uncovered and covering since verse 15 doesn't say hair is the covering but that LONG hair is the covering. Read it again you will see it starts to make sense.
Disregarding this practice is said to dishonor ones head. Which head? The head in view here is most likely ones spiritual head, which in case of the man is Christ and in the case of woman is man. The woman who who knowingly refuses to wear the veil projects herself into the man's position, essentially usurping authority under which he stands. We as Christian women would not say, "God, don't mind my disobedience; just answer my prayer." But when a woman who understands it is God's will for her to be covered refuses to do so, that is what she does when she prays. I was blessed by this study and felt lead to share!!!!!
I am also led to share that this practice is a misinterpretation of the scriptures. As the hostess mentioned the Bible clearly mentions that the long hair is the covering. So when you read the words that women ought to cover they mean to cover in long hair and for men to not be covered is to mean not covered in long hair. Therefore if the premise is a misinterpretation then one really isn't disregarding anything unless the woman wears their hair short and men long, then can one mention something about disregarding. So this ISN'T about a woman who "knowingly refuses to wear the veil" but one who knowingly refuses to keep their hair long. One can make the argument that one is disobeying God if one is preaching a false doctrine of veils when it makes not mention of the word veil neither hat. One can argue that one is disregarding the many instances that refer to hair, (Long hair 2x shorn 2x and shaven 2x KJV) simply because they were trained to think that their interpretation is the correct one. Just something to consider. God bless.
It is true that Paul says about keeping the traditions, but he is referring to the tradition of women keeping their hair long and men’s short. Therefore to “…hold to the traditions you were taught by us either by word or by letter. 2nd Thessalonians 2:15” applies to this not the MISINTERPRETATION of a veil. Pushing a misinterpretation upon others believing it to be true is an error and is in a sense working AGAINST the truth. Therefore the verse that says “Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw yourselves from every brother who walks in rebellion and not after the tradition which they received from us.” applies to those who rebelliously try to influence others by claiming that God cares if a woman wears a hat because they have twisting the scriptures around to mean something that it does not.
I am so proud of you for speaking up! God will greatly honor you for helping other women be free from the fear of what others think, fear of man, stress, bondage, head covering etc. God bless you sister!
Head covering is not bondage! It is a beautiful testimony to show the world what you believe. God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible. I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.” I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11. It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased. You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief. The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality. Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil. I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless. “Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
It is so nice of you to leave this comment as it is something that most people do not take into account that this can become a burden on women. I have read that many women live in constant worry about being caught without a veil if they pray without one. Some have taken the drastic measure of sleeping with it on because they never know at what time it may occur that they needed to pray about something. This is clearly a stressful situation that not only hurts one internally/psychologically but also physically by having to endure pain or risk hair loss, etc. I only wish people would just read the Bible and not assume Paul is referring to a head covering like a veil when he is talking about long hair.
I guess two things stand out to me that I haven’t seen mentioned here… in the Bible times the women traditionally wore coverings. (The Sound Faith channel here on RUclips goes to great lengths to provide ancient proofs of head coverings). Also if your long hair is the covering, what does it cover and shouldn’t it always be worn down to prove the length and cover up something? Just my two cents. I wrestled with head covering because it’s not something I was brought up doing. About two years into it (I am now about 3-1/2), I asked my husband what he thought because I think women are fickle and can be swayed easily by emotions as the New Testament implies. Now, mind you, my husband has never told me to wear one. It was my decision; however he has always been supportive. When I asked he told me he felt there was something different and special about my spirit wearing one. Having been on both sides, I can attest wearing one holds you to a higher accountability. And I can also say that being consumed with appearance and wearing a head covering just don’t go together, but not wearing one leads to a state - at least it did for me - of being more occupied with my appearance and what people thought than being set apart for the Lord. I think it’s actually a very special thing to be able to stand out and be His peculiar people. Just my two cents. I will, however, also give my two cents that I do not think it is a salvation issue. Anyone relying on their own efforts and practices instead of the grace of Jesus Christ, to save them, is going to fail miserably. Only He can atone. And in the end, it is between you and God.
If we follow those who subscribe to the doctrine of women wearing veils, then it can be argued that the most often cited verse is 1st Corinth. 11:5, which states: “But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.” According to many of those who believe women ought to wear veils this verse supposedly implies that a woman’s uncovered head is a woman who does not wear a veil. Such a woman is either dishonoring God, their own physical head or her husband for failing to wear it which implies that they are in disobedience. Some have gone so far as to say it is a sin. Another assumption is that the woman being referred to already has long hair and since they conclude that the covering is a veil then it must be referring to an “additional” covering otherwise it would clash with verse 15 stating that God gave women long hair for a covering. Another conclusion is that women ought to be covered ONLY when praying and prophesying which would make it seem as though it were something that can be placed on or taken off like a veil. You’ve probably noticed by now it takes several assumptions to reach the conclusion that women ought to wear a foreign object on their heads, despite the lack of evidence. * Does the Bible really give a clear command that women should wear a veil? The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT say the word “veil “or any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the woman’s head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. The verses in question within 1st Corinthians 11 mention the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word “cover” is often unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is actually stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures. Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions in order to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic? If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there aren’t really “two” conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument. The reasoning behind why the “two-condition” argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples. * Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions… Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. For example, if the strongest argument is because there were conditions for women to wear veils because of verse 5 then why don’t we hear the same thing spoken of about men in verse 4? “Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.” Normally we do not hear the argument that men ought not to have their heads covered exclusively under two conditions as we hear for women as to why they should. I think it is because that would imply that they CAN have their heads covered under other circumstances like the examples I mentioned before as in speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. But I suspect a veil promoter would not go along with this. Then there is verse 7: “For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.” So, there seems to be ANOTHER reason for men not to cover. Therefore, if the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why even mention praying or prophesying in verse 4? Should a man not be covered under ANY condition since verse 7 overrides any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? Verses 4 and 5 are basically the same except for whom they are directed yet when one hears the arguments by veil promoters it is typically about how verse 5 is conditional for women yet for men in verse 4 it is usually not spoken of. Again, isn’t it more likely that Paul was using the words praying and prophesying as examples in both verses? We can also get a sense that Paul was referring to praying and prophesying as examples if we read verse 13 when it only mentions the word praying and NOT prophesying. “Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?” If there were only two exclusive conditions, then why would he leave out prophesying? We can’t say he got tired in his writing as he mentioned both words in verses 4 and 5. So, what can we say about this? Just that Paul was giving us a couple of examples of how doing something HOLY or GODLY does not give a pleasant appearance if the woman is uncovered, meaning not covered in long hair and the same goes for men when their heads are covered in long hair since that is exactly one is supposed to understand when reading verse 14. * So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? ….. If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. In that case, what we should be asking when mentioning the words “covered,” “cover,” “uncovered” and “covering” is: Are they referring to long or short hair or some kind of foreign object that goes on the head? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words. “But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV So if the covering is long hair, then the words “covered” or “cover” (which are synonymous with “covering”) should be understood as long hair as well. If that’s true, then to be “uncovered” would mean “short hair.” If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head “covered.” Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 that’s because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair.
@@FA-God-s-Words-MatterThank you for preaching with such exactitude that puts to rest this idea. After reading this I don't how anyone would think that Paul was referring to anything other than hair. It fits the mold and answers every question logically.
Hi! it's the first time that i see one of your videos. I wanna be able to explain the best that i can, so here i go... I've not growing up in church, but God show up when i was really bad in my life, then i started to go to church until the Holy spirit convicted me to cover myself, i went to church that sunday andit was awful... then i ended up not covering at all, i was really hurted by the church and i stopped going to church, but i still had my relationship with God (I'm doing quite a resume, there's more story, but anyway) i got married and my man saw everything when we were fiances, so he was not ok with me to cover bc it brought me sad. Anyway time to time i felt led to that exact scripture and over and over i understood better how this is something important but as you mentioned is not about salvation, so. I was looking some videos about how to cover and testimonies bc i like to know how other ppl live guided by the scripture and the Holy Spirit. To be honest i was a bit disappointed bc i only found the typical things ppl say, i quit seeing, but then i just could let it go, like i "should" or wanted to see just one more, then i saw your video and im really happy to come back to this plattform and "found" you. I still believe that i was convicted to cover, but now that i heard you i know it's not meant to be a prison, that's not supposted to be obligated or that we should judge others, quite the opposite (I knew this) but in certain way it's like a warning to not make it a "religion" so to speak. Today is the first day that i cover with conviction and i was having the same thoughts that you mention, what's gonna think my family or the ppl who see me (we live in Germany now and it's quite a thing right now expats and also muslims are the one who cover here and im not, so i don't want to make i false impresion and i was afraid of going out) bc it's new for me, but the Holy Spirit said when you are in my pressence like worship or praying, so i understand also thank to you that it's not meant to leave me in prison or ashamed or something, IDK if is something for ever for me but i take of your experience that we should be follow his instructions in his appointed times more than what we think, so that we can be able to cover when he wants and uncovered when he wants and just follow him thank you for sharing, it was helpful
Your testimony is beautiful and may God bless you for walking in what the Holy Spirit convicted you of, I believe not everyone will have the same conviction on this topic and that’s 100% ok. The important thing is that we are obedient to the Holy Spirit’s convictions🙏❤️
Bless you SueEtta for sharing!! I love your story! And meeting you personally only once I already felt so much connection! Its the Holy Spirit!!! ❤ Thank you for being obedient and for sharing even if its hard and people will come with nasty comments.
I really appreciate your spirit! The light of Jesus really does shine thru. One thing I wanted to point out is that the 2 places the English Bible uses "covering" is 2 different Greek words. So in the English it sounds like they are referring to the same thing, but it is actually 2 different words, one being a material veil, and the other, simply a natural covering Paul uses as an example from nature. So I just wanted to point out that those are actually not the same word "covering".
Look at the difference between Jesus and John Baptist, or Samson and David. I often pointed this out to the parents of the Bible college boys who judged the blue collar boys. God gives us all different roles. We must be careful what we say the Holy Spirit does, we must also be careful not to say what he leads someone else to do or not do. I am still studying, as we all should be, but I'm convinced Christian unity is more important than the covering.
It’s sad to see the negative comments and judgments against our sister SuEtta on a disputable matter. Personally I looked into this and prayed about it a few years ago, but in the end did not believe God was calling me to cover my head. My husband also did not believe it was necessary. My reasoning was that I was always in the presence of God and often praying, so I would need to wear one at all times, even in the shower, if I was going to wear one for that reason. At a time when I was going through a season of repentance and seeking God’s will for my life, I asked Him what I should be wearing. I was willing to wear a long skirt and a head covering if that was what He wanted. Instead He led me to get rid of all my black clothes. It seems that this is a test of our love for one another. Are we willing to fellowship with and love our brothers and sisters who have different convictions on disputable matters, or are we going to judge and divide from each other?
I never comment on videos, but this time I have to. Im deeply burdened by this testimony! I will pray that God would work in your life. The Bible and the Holy Spirit are always aligned and never contradict each other. No you don't have to live the Mennonite lifestyle to be a Christian, but Biblical principles will always remain the same.
With all due respect you are unnecessarily burdened by her testimony. You are right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to prove as a veil or a cloth in the Bible, at least not in the King James version. Paul never mentions that the covering to be a cloth or a hat. He just uses adverbs that a woman ought to be covered like a man should not be covered. He doesn't use a noun like some people assume. But when you allow for the Holy Spirit to show you that the rest of the context revolves around hair then there is no doubt that hair is the covering. The word hair is uses 3 times and the words shorn and shaven 4 times. With all these obvious clues what conclusion would you draw? But not once does he use the words cloth or veil or anything related. Therefore to be covered means to be covered in long hair and to be uncovered means the opposite in this case short hair.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Well said... Never ceases to amaze me to hear when one speaks of head covering as a "biblical principle." When there no evidence of such a thing. I think people will declare anything as true just to coerce others to follow their interpretation.
I am also from a conservative background and remember when God started convicting me about my covering becoming a distraction of what the Holy Spirt wanted to do in my life… I have so much respect for you because I can FEEL the fear you are talking about…. I see Gods grace all over you! Keep following Him and trusting Him!! Lots of love from a sister wanting all God has for me… willing to go deeper even if it means everyone doesn’t understand… ❤✝️🙏💜😇
I completely agree with you. Also from a conservative background, and I still consider myself so but we’ve joined another church that believes the long hair is a covering for women. My problem with the head covering became when I’d pray throughout the day in my heart and thinking do I need a head covering for every single time I pray? Then I’d always need to wear it, but the Bible is clear about the long hair. It became such a burden to me, however my husband still wants me to wear it. So I wear it to church only, even though nobody else does 🤷♀️. It’s just probably something I need to seek deeper in the Lord.
For anyone who would like to understand head covering Bible study was done by Mike Winger available on RUclips. I watched it, he has women in ministry, women in the church and home Bible study available for those wanting to learn more. I have had similar experiences where I felt the guidance and burden on my heart to step out in faith, To follow the direction of the Holy Spirit, without fear.The traditions of men which we are sometimes taught, sometimes generationally are binding and if we are born again believers, we have the Holy Spirit within, we are to listen and obey. This is my first visit here and have not finished the video, But hope that others are encouraged to study the Bible and listen to the leading of the Holy Spirit personally for their life. The Lord desires a personal relationship with us, an open, clean heart, He’s the potter we, the clay. encouragement to YOU as HE loving molds your life in service to Him.
When I listened to your message I wasn't sure what to think.The head covering seems to be a hot topic for a lot of people, and they have strong opinons about it. I was raised wearing one but I do not keep up with the practice. I would feel more convicted to dress modest. One thing I am certain about is one day each one of us will answer to God not man, and I like to practice that today!! Lydia
If we follow those who subscribe to the doctrine of women wearing veils, then it can be argued that the most often cited verse is 1st Corinth. 11:5, which states: “But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.” According to many of those who believe women ought to wear veils this verse supposedly implies that a woman’s uncovered head is a woman who does not wear a veil. Such a woman is either dishonoring God, their own physical head or her husband for failing to wear it which implies that they are in disobedience. Some have gone so far as to say it is a sin. Another assumption is that the woman being referred to already has long hair and since they conclude that the covering is a veil then it must be referring to an “additional” covering otherwise it would clash with verse 15 stating that God gave women long hair for a covering. Another conclusion is that women ought to be covered ONLY when praying and prophesying which would make it seem as though it were something that can be placed on or taken off like a veil. You’ve probably noticed by now it takes several assumptions to reach the conclusion that women ought to wear a foreign object on their heads, despite the lack of evidence. * Does the Bible really give a clear command that women should wear a veil? The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT say the word “veil “or any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the woman’s head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. The verses in question within 1st Corinthians 11 mention the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word “cover” is often unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is actually stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures. Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions in order to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic? If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there aren’t really “two” conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument. The reasoning behind why the “two-condition” argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples. * Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions… Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. For example, if the strongest argument is because there were conditions for women to wear veils because of verse 5 then why don’t we hear the same thing spoken of about men in verse 4? “Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.” Normally we do not hear the argument that men ought not to have their heads covered exclusively under two conditions as we hear for women as to why they should. I think it is because that would imply that they CAN have their heads covered under other circumstances like the examples I mentioned before as in speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. But I suspect a veil promoter would not go along with this. Then there is verse 7: “For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.” So, there seems to be ANOTHER reason for men not to cover. Therefore, if the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why even mention praying or prophesying in verse 4? Should a man not be covered under ANY condition since verse 7 overrides any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? Verses 4 and 5 are basically the same except for whom they are directed yet when one hears the arguments by veil promoters it is typically about how verse 5 is conditional for women yet for men in verse 4 it is usually not spoken of. Again, isn’t it more likely that Paul was using the words praying and prophesying as examples in both verses? We can also get a sense that Paul was referring to praying and prophesying as examples if we read verse 13 when it only mentions the word praying and NOT prophesying. “Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?” If there were only two exclusive conditions, then why would he leave out prophesying? We can’t say he got tired in his writing as he mentioned both words in verses 4 and 5. So, what can we say about this? Just that Paul was giving us a couple of examples of how doing something HOLY or GODLY does not give a pleasant appearance if the woman is uncovered, meaning not covered in long hair and the same goes for men when their heads are covered in long hair since that is exactly one is supposed to understand when reading verse 14. * So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? ….. If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. In that case, what we should be asking when mentioning the words “covered,” “cover,” “uncovered” and “covering” is: Are they referring to long or short hair or some kind of foreign object that goes on the head? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words. “But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV So if the covering is long hair, then the words “covered” or “cover” (which are synonymous with “covering”) should be understood as long hair as well. If that’s true, then to be “uncovered” would mean “short hair.” If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head “covered.” Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 that’s because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter oh my! What a lengthy comment… God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible. I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.” I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11. It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased. You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief. The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality. Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil. I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless. “Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
@@Sarah-fs6li I don’t doubt that you are generally following God. But you are being led astray from someone’s interpretation of head coverings. I think most Christians are following God to a certain extent, but millions are also following false doctrines. Do you think God is pleased that certain believers (preachers, pastors etc) are being paid to preach the gospel when it says if we freely received, we should freely give? Do you think God is pleased with the many denominations that exist when it is already understood that we are not to form groups and are supposed to be in the same judgment? (1st Corinthians 1) There is not enough time in the day to go through all the false doctrines people have accepted like churchianity, tithing, infant baptism, worldly music disguised as Christian, grave soaking, the embracing of ecumenism, and so forth. This topic is just one of hundreds that have been misinterpreted. I feel for your plight and understand that you went though a lot. But being fair for a moment are there not many testimonies of women out there that do not mention a head covering? I know I have watched many videos and read many writings where women have turned themselves around through Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Ghost. I can honestly tell you that this is the first time someone included the doctrine of a head covering. So, if offering a testimony is something that is supposed to be deemed as a consideration then we cannot rule out those who have come to know Christ and never felt the call to wear something on their heads. What matters here is whether there is undeniable evidence that Paul was referring to a veil or long hair based on the scriptures alone. Normally I focus on 1st Corinthians 11 which should be the bulk of the focus as this whole issue started from this passage, but there is evidence that head coverings were not the focus especially if you read the verses in 1st Tim 2:9 and 1 Peter 3:3. For if a covering were important then why would they care about the hair style unless everyone were able to see it? And most importantly the passages are referring on how women should adorn themselves, but they never once mention a veil or a cloth or any type of head covering. You would think that in these two completely separate epistles which the topic is on women and how they show be portrayed that they would to mention the thing that you are repeatedly refer to as important. But the FACT is that they don’t. Now, I personally have no aversion to a veil or a hat. I think there is nothing wrong with it. But neither will I accept the idea that it is somehow biblical when it isn’t Like I say to everyone who I come across in this topic is. Prove it. Not by a testimony or history or any other way but by the Scriptures. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 2nd Tim 3:16-17
I very much appreciate this…I have experienced the same thing…Gods presence was very real to me at the moment that he convicted me about taking the covering off
It means something just not the way you imagine. It is evident that some women were cutting their hair short (uncovered) while performing something godly like prayer and prophesying. So Paul was saying that if women are going to do this don't cut your hair short or as he put it be uncovered. So the "we all have hair" idea doesn't apply as he wanted women to maintain the feminine look of having long hair.
@@defendingthegospel721 read my later comment- it explains more about the Greek and all of that. We are to have 2 coverings, the long hair covering and a physical covering. Also- let me challenge you. If Paul wants us to only cover our head when we are praying or prophesying- then are we only to have hair then? Are we meant to be bald or have short hair the rest of the time? No. But I do encourage you to read my later comment, I go into detail about the Biblical truths that Paul wrote about.
@@Sarah-fs6li Challenge accepted. There is someone who wrote a great deal on this subject and I was happy to have copied his comment specifically on your question. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ "Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions… Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. If they were meant to be conditions then why would Paul say in verse 7… “For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.” If the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why assume Paul was saying that there were only TWO conditions in verse 4? Wouldn’t 7 override any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? But let’s continue. Verses 8 and 9 give us another understanding that Paul must have been referring to praying and prophesying as examples because he adds the order of creation into the mix. “For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. Neither was the man CREATED for the woman; but the woman for the man.” If Paul states that the creation order has something to do with the reason as to why women ought to cover (in long hair) and men to be uncovered (aka have short hair) then we can conclude that this doctrine must be bound in NATURE. That is to say that it must have taken place since the creation of Adam and Eve and BEFORE the manufacturing of veils or hats, and BEFORE the creation of churches, which is another reason why hair easily fits the mold. This is confirmed when reading verses 13 and 14 when Paul asks you to make an observational judgment that if it is comely (aka pleasant looking) for a woman to pray uncovered (in short hair) and that even NATURE teaches us that a man with long hair is shameful. Why would Paul ask you to think that something as unnatural as a woman without a hat would look off and then say something as natural as long hair would look off on a man? Paul was saying that not being covered in long hair especially while praying looks uncomely and in the same breath he continues and says men with long hair also looks naturally wrong." __________________________________________________________________ I encourage you to go back to reading your Bible preferably the KJ version as the newer versions are very corrupted.
So will your husband be Shaving is head? Because what you are saying is that now both of your heads are "covered" would be interested in hearing what his thoughts are on this?
Jesus often uses a physical analogy when also addressing the spiritual side. As much as it is to my knowledge. He is talking about the spiritual head ship. A woman can fall out of the spiritual headship whether she physically covers her head or not. Women dishonors her spiritual headship when she disrespects her husband. She dishonors her head when she doesn’t obey God. I have seen women cover and not cover that dishonors God or there husband because we are not perfect. What about your husband does he never cover his head? It’s seems to be a double standard. If we view it as a spiritual headship/covering when a man does no walk in leadership of his home he dishonors his head. I hope this helps your question and I would love to know your thoughts on why men are okay to cover just not for praying but women are to wear it all the time for praying? If we are to pray without ceasing why is it women are to cover full time but men are aloud to cover sometimes? Shouldn’t be that men are not to cover at all?
I have noticed that most head covering promoters misinterpret the beliefs of those who believe that long hair is the covering. In their efforts to show that it doesn’t make sense they will state something like: “If hair were the covering, then men should be shaved bald (aka uncovered) every time they pray.” You’d be surprised at how many times I’ve read this in the comments section of various RUclips videos. There are several errors here, the first being that no one is saying that to be uncovered means to be shaved. If a woman is to be covered in long hair and a man is NOT to be covered in long hair, then we are not talking about baldness or being shaved it just means that a man should not have long hair or another way to say the same thing is that he should have SHORT hair. So that is mistake number one. Mistake number two is that what Paul was preaching had to do with some action that requires something to be taken off (or put on). Although it is true that Paul was saying that men ought to be uncovered when praying or prophesying but he wasn’t being exclusive he was just giving a couple of examples. The idea is that a believing man should not have long hair (meaning he should be uncovered) while doing anything holy or godly LIKE praying or prophesying. What? Do you think Paul saying it was ok to be “covered” while preaching, talking in tongues, interpreting tongues, casting out devils, singing to the Lord, worshipping to the Lord, dancing to the Lord, etc. as long as it was not those two exclusive moments? Evidence that he must have been referring to hair is also based on his mentioning of the order of creation between men and women in verses 8 and 9. If Paul is making the effort to include this as a reason why women should be covered, and men uncovered then it must be BEFORE the manufacturing of veils or hats. It also must be BEFORE any idea of church. Therefore, what else could Paul be talking about if not hair way back in the beginning? It had to have been something that existed since then and had to have been natural like hair.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Always love your comments. Very biblically based thanks for preaching the truth I only wish more here would stick to scripture than following this misinterpretation like JW or LDS people do. Thanks :)
Hi. I dont normally comment but this really bothers me. I listened to your testimony and it really impressed me but then in the next few days when id watch your instagram posts something just didnt add up and i wondered if you were/ are really following what God was speaking... and then this video scared me too.... and i dont mean this rude in anyway but it does send off alarms with me....
Being a Mennonite myself here I really respect her testimony! I’ve learned that even if convictions look different in our eyes for each God follower, we might not understand everyone’s conviction, and that’s OK. I really respect the ones that come on selfless, and share about their set Free journey🙌🏽 We never know what the Holy Spirit will be working in our life one day, so therefore, let’s be respectful😌😌
What is the purpose of this comment? If your intent is to correct in order to help then please do so and not leave this to mean anything. What didn't add up? Why not be forthright? Otherwise you should delete this comment.
Bless you for sharing!! The Holy Spirit always comes with peace...the enemy with the complete opposite & with confusion. When you shared your experience the peace of God was shining through!! May each of us read the passage for ourselves and ask God to reveal what He wants for us, ourselves. And then realize His answers aren't the same for everyone. May God's blessings be upon you!!❤
The only thing that puzzles me is why do it in church? Why such a big show? If it were the holy spirit, why would he ask you to do it in such a fashion? And since the husband is the head of the house, why not ask him what he thinks before you did it? Just curious......
Perhaps to correct before all so that others may fear. It would seem a great thing to share to all. There is no reason to assume that this is something that requires privacy.
I had never considered or thought about why this passage was in the Bible before, until I read about the history of it and the reason why Paul put this in the Bible. If you can, search for a booklet regarding headcoverings, written by Pastor Randy Starr. This booklet cleared up the reason why Paul was talking about this in the first place.
Did your husband shave his hair?? What do you do with the verse that says “if a man prays with his head covered , it dishonors his head”?? If you believe hair is a covering,, then he should shave his hair off!!!!
What does your comment have to do with believing in the Son of God and loving as Jesus loved? Man looks on the outward appearance,The Lord looks on the heart..and we ought to do the same.
The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT say the word “veil “or any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the woman’s head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. The verses in question within 1st Corinthians 11 mention the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word “cover” is often unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is actually stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures. Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions in order to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic? If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there aren’t really “two” conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument. The reasoning behind why the “two-condition” argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples. So when it comes to the men they should not be praying and prophesying or doing any other holy or godly thing with long hair (aka a covered head).
If a man loses his hair is that God's curse on him? 😐 We need to be more careful how we treat people than how we present ourselves through clothing and haircuts.
I Corinthians 11. I Thessalonians 5:17 "pray without ceasing" If we are to pray without ceasing, then would should wear a head covering. If we are called to witness or prophecy by the Spirit, then we should wear that head covering to be ready. Keep throwing out what is leaven (false doctrine), but do not throw out what is good. Observe the order and let that humble meek spirit be shown with a sign, so that we might find favor with angels (messengers of God, your brethren). If we can not obey Him in the very simplest of things, then how can we obey in the greater?
When one allows themselves to be consumed with one doctrine it sometimes moves them to take the development of this doctrine a step further. In this case, certain sects that adhere to head covering have made the ordinance that women ought to wear veils nearly 24 hours a day. The way this is justified is due to the amalgamation of verses such as 1st Thessalonians 5:17, which states we are to “pray without ceasing” and the verses in 1 Corinthians 11 that mention women “praying.” For many in the head covering movement this mixture of verses draws more problems as it hurts the argument for those who adhere to wearing veils only under two conditions. Since the argument is that women are to wear a veil or hat for a couple of moments in time and/or only during what they interpret to mean “public” worship and not for practically 24 hours a day, every day for the rest of their lives. It is evident that the “24-hour argument” has to reject the idea that it is only worn during public worship or any brief moment. Extremists will wear them night and day but yet there are practical questions that need to be answered regarding changing clothes, washing and sleeping. People who are not so extreme and have no problem taking it off during these moments have told me (in order to justify and rationalize wearing their veils throughout the day) is that to avoid constantly putting it on and taking it off they might as well leave it on. So it is more convenient to leave it on. The problem is that within certain sects that admit that they simply keep it on for convenience have strict rules with no option to take it off even if they are not praying. And if they are seen without it they might get a strict lecture. This type of reasoning is how man-made doctrines are formed. I almost have no doubt that this must be causing some veil promoters to live in a very confusing bubble, especially those who use the two-condition argument and at the same time claim it out to be worn nearly all the time. For on the one hand, they argue that the covering is a veil that one puts on when praying or prophesying but on the other hand, it is required to be worn nearly all the time. So, it’s ok to preach that it is removable but in practice, they have their women BOUND to wear them and not take them off regardless of whether they are praying or prophesying. This is very inconsistent. This one misinterpretation causes a snowball effect by creating an array of issues, which is not biblically supported. Also, if a woman should cover her head with a hat or veil all the time because she should always be praying then this should also mean that a man should NEVER have his head covered because he should always be praying all the time as well. But men wear all kinds of head coverings for various reasons on a day-to-day basis and it is not considered a sin. For example, during winter a bald man would wear a hat to insulate his head against the cold, and a man that works in construction would and should wear a helmet for safety purposes. If we were to accept that, unlike verses 4 and 5 explicitly state, 1st Corinthians 11 teaches women to ALWAYS wear head coverings, then we are also saying men should NOT wear a head covering at any time. The latter proposition is clearly not reasonable and thus makes of no effect this interpretation.
@@FA-God-s-Words-MatterYou spent a lot of time to put up vein words to explain why we should rebel against the simple command of the Word of God.The Bible is not complicated, it is very simple. Prophesying could happen at any moment. No, you shouldn't sleep with it. Two or three unclean spirits are the cause of this; Rebellion (not His way but my way), Vanity, or unfaithful heart towards not just God, but her husband. God is not that complicated. Your many words prove you are not repented. You lie to yourself and have not given up self all to God. Your youtube call name is a lie. You do not believe "God's Words Matter". Christ warned repent or perish. It is His way or the lake of fire. I don't tell people when first enter into Christ that they must wear one. They need to purge at their own rate and if they really want to obey Him, they will get to that scripture and it will convict them to obey. Ephesians 5:6-7 " 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them; 8 for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord;" Proverbs 10:19 "When there are many words, transgression is unavoidable, But he who restrains his lips is wise." Titus 1:10 "For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision" If you are a true Christian Lady and not of this World, you will not deny any part of God, for the Word is God (John1:1). If you were a true Christian Lady, you would see the damage that has been done to the heart of Christianity, which is the family order. His order is perfect and His will not try to destroy, but to build. Proverbs 14:1 Be careful. Revelations 2:20-23. I don't care if they wear a cap or cowgirl hat while hiking or doing yard work and praying while working, or if they choose to wear it when they are praying at Church, but to set the good example of family order, they should wear it in town to show others to respect the family order that has been lost in this nation. Not only that, you don't know when you will sometimes be suddenly called to witness by the Spirit and yet you are ready. I have had a man come to me once and I was able to help him understand a few lies taught to him and where he could go to learn from men. How many countless children have suffered because if this disorder. We ladies, truly in Christ can fight also, side by side with Christian men against satans lies that have destroyed families. You used no scripture and are struggle with self still. Just let go and give all to Jesus Christ.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter I apologize. I assume that the many words was just another argument was another rebellious person, as I have dealt with many as Christ warned we would; although the subject has never been over prayer cloths but rather the order in the family itself. I warn my children of assuming yet I fell to the sin of assuming myself, through the experiences of witnessing, even on-line so-called Christian platforms. The rebellion is so consistent out there that I have gotten to anticipate ones comments to be arguments. I didn't read what you said. Sorry. I thought about it and went back and read what you said. Woman should not wear the pants in the family. Woman are not always at fault though, some men just don't want to take authority. What I said is true for a rebellious woman. And some women may need to hear those scriptures that it might bring about repentance in them. But I had thoughts to go on and read what you said and see I was wrong and jumped the gun on this one. I humbly ask your forgiveness and I already got it under the blood through prayer. Warfare is rough out there. I have already been aware of the dangers of adding to God's Word that produce false doctrine. I can see now that we see the same way on this subject. God Bless you and yours in Christ Way. What I stated, referenced above, that does not apply to @FA-God-s-Words-Matter, but may need to be heard by some for that jezebel spirit and to learn from my mistake not to assume. Sometimes the Christian grows weary in battle against satans lies that we hear so often. You spent a lot of time to put up vein words to explain why we should rebel against the simple command of the Word of God.The Bible is not complicated, it is very simple. Prophesying could happen at any moment. No, you shouldn't sleep with it. Two or three unclean spirits are the cause of this; Rebellion (not His way but my way), Vanity, or unfaithful heart towards not just God, but her husband. God is not that complicated. Your many words prove you are not repented. You lie to yourself and have not given up self all to God. Your youtube call name is a lie. You do not believe "God's Words Matter". Christ warned repent or perish. It is His way or the lake of fire. I don't tell people when first enter into Christ that they must wear one. They need to purge at their own growth rate in Christ Jesus with gentle encouragement at the right time and if they really want to obey Him, they will get to that scripture and it will convict them to obey. Ephesians 5:6-7 " 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them; 8 for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord;" Proverbs 10:19 "When there are many words, transgression is unavoidable, But he who restrains his lips is wise." Titus 1:10 "For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision" If you are a true Christian Lady and not of this World, you will not deny any part of God, for the Word is God (John1:1). If you were a true Christian Lady, you would see the damage that has been done to the heart of Christianity, which is the family order. His order is perfect and His will not try to destroy, but to build. Proverbs 14:1 Be careful. Revelations 2:20-23. I don't care if they wear a cap or cowgirl hat while hiking or doing yard work and praying while working, or if they choose to wear it when they are praying at Church, but to set the good example of family order, they should wear a covering to town to show others to respect the family order that has been lost in this nation. Not only that, you don't know when you will sometimes be suddenly called to witness by the Spirit and yet you are ready. I have had a man come to me once and I was able to help him understand a few lies taught to him and where he could go to learn from men. How many countless children have suffered because demonic disorder. We ladies, truly in Christ can fight also, side by side with Christian men against satans lies that have destroyed families. You used no scripture and are struggle with self still. Just let go and give all to Jesus Christ.
I agree with you. And I do not doubt that the Holy Spirit showed this to you. Now, given that your hair IS your covering, then it’s a good idea to look at hair health. There are many oils (essential and otherwise) that nourish it and help overall health. It’s also been shown that wearing very tight hairstyles causes damage to the roots that over time leads to hair loss. Maybe it’s not a big deal when you’re young, but it can become one when your hair changes after menopause.
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible. I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.” I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11. It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased. You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief. The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality. Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil. I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless. “Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
In this e days. A lot of women who got saved were prostitutes. In those day, prostitutes saved off their hair to show they were available. This is why Paul had to address that church. These womens hair had not yet grown back. And many of them were loud because of their past lifestyles. Be blessed.
For all those who are saying Suetta was mislead in this and is in sin: Are you spending more time on minutiae of laws your bishops or congregations are saying (pins vs. buttons; chrome on your cars or windshields on your buggies) than you are on whether you are listening to the Holy Spirit? Whether you are taking the temptation to be upset or to be envious or even simply to trust your good health or furnace? How much time are you spending on the Great Commission? Do you know what your spiritual gifts are? When is the last time you sacrificed something for a stranger, face to face? Can He use you to bring another person to Him if you don’t follow every little rule? The time is short. If you’re spending more time on rules than living your life by trusting Him; if you think He will only speak to you when you read the Bible, you’re doing it wrong.
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible. I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.” I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11. It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased. You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief. The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality. Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil. I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless. “Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
What a shame,, she tell holy Spirit tells her ,to take off her head coverings, holy Spirit talk against the Bible? , it's her imagination, she don't want to cover her hair that's why she make this story, many people comment here ,head covering is not important, then whats important, if the law is burden to woman ,they says it's not important, god only sees our heart, not our head coverings, if that's true then why God says that, is he mad?
@@tlmovieshorts6215 The point that the hostess is making that the Scriptures are in accordance to what the Holy Spirit told her. Did you not watch the whole video? She never mentioned that she is doing this because she simply did not want to wear it ONLY you are accusing her of that. Why would you make an unfounded accusation against the brethren? What religion are you from? She said she did it with tears so your conclusions sound very wrong and you make no support of your reason why someone should accept your interpretation that woman ought to wear something on their heads as opposed to hair being the covering. I would say it is a shame to read your accusatory comment and lack of basis.
Hallelujah!! So happy for your freedom in Christ! Good for you to get rid of that idol! People can argue all they want to about it because verse 16 throws out the whole argument. No one pay attention to that verse. Absolutely has nothing to do with Salvation.
Is there biblical evidence that the wearing of a hat is God's instructions? No there isn’t; Can a man wear a hat in prayer and prophecy so long as his hair is short according to the Scriptures? Yes of course. Especially because the teaching is about how shameful it is for a man to cover his head with long hair especially if he is praying or prophesying. Both verse 4 and verse 14 are talking about the same topic which is hair.
I appreciate the journey you are on, keep digging deep, keep seeking truth! I’ve learned that the covering or uncovering of heads spoken about in 1 Corinthians 11 has so much to do with the culture in that day. Pagan women of that day “prayed” to their gods with their heads uncovered while pagan men of that day “prayed” with their heads covered. Obviously, the new Christian churches wanted nothing to to do with those pagan practices and chose to do just the opposite, as a symbolic way of saying, we are not pagans nor do we incorporate their practices. It also had to do with Greek traditions, which sometimes differed from Jewish traditions (Jewish men wearing a cap etc). I believe Paul was concreting the Godly order of headship and then he was exhorting those who held on to Jewish customs to not look down on those who held to Greek customs. And at the end of the day, either custom is up to the Believer as long as it is not contrary to Scripture or immoral. I have also discovered that harlots of that day did not cover their heads, another reason why the new Christian women wanted to set themselves apart. Obviously, those customs are no longer relevant to today’s culture. Also something to consider, the Mennonite covering looks nothing like the covering referred to in the Bible. It’s all about religious tradition, in my opinion. Seeking the heart of Christ, living a life set apart for Christ, is so so much more than following man-made traditions. God bless.
This is right on!! If you have a deep connection with the Most High there will be times when u feel unworthy or undone before him and you feel led to cover that is wonderful! Completely different from mennonite way of believing.
thank you for sharing. I just came across your channel. Just one suggestion, the music is very distracting, little loud and the repetitiveness is kind of distracting.
1. it Stops her from flirting with men. A. Hair flips B. when a woman lifts her hand it can be recognized as a HELLO to men and Nephilm. C. when a woman lifts her hand towards her head it lifts the breast and she naturally turns in the direction of male. Knowledge is a Super Power become a Super Hero
Actually this is great that one is not being manipulated to believe in a misinterpreted doctrine. There is no evil spirit it is based on biblical facts.
I never watch your videos.. but this one caught my attention and felt led to warn you.... Please do not say the holy spirit convicted you to take off your head covering.... the holy spirit will never never do that... the Bible says what it says..God s word will forever stand.. God is not mocked...!!! I warn you to not fall in satans snares.. .. don't... be deceived...
Just a question…I’m open to hearing your thoughts. So if the hair is the woman’s covering then shouldn’t men go bald? That’s hair too n it covers. Idk still searching. And what about the ppl with short hair??
When i started the journey of leaving that tradition Holy Spirit showed me wearing a covering or not won't get me to heaven and that it is a cultural thing. It was actually a pagan practice. There are soo many arguments about the hair being the covering.. that whole concept doesn't make sense to me altho I do understand where ppl are coming from with that belief. And everyone is entitled to believe what they choose. Holy Spirit showed me Paul didn't condemn one over the other and Jesus's heart is that we love one another and the covering deal is not worth fighting about. If you feel like you want to because it's what u genuinely and humbly want to do, fine! But if somebody chooses not to its not our duty to judge because thats not the basis for salvation! Having said this... you do what Holy Spirit is telling you.
This is a very extreme interpretation of what the hostess mentioned. Why would you conclude that men go bald if the woman's hair is the covering. I don't understand your logic. If the woman's LONG hair is her covering (verse 15) therefore when it says a woman's head ought to be covered it means to be covered in long hair. That is the LOGIC being stated by the hostess of the video. So if a man's head ought to be UNcovered wouldn't that logically just mean the opposite? That He should not be covered in long hair? Being a male I am not covered in long hair but neither am I bald as I have short hair. So I don't understand why you would make this conclusion of having NO hair at all?
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible. I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.” I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11. It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased. You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief. The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality. Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil. I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless. “Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
Gods concern is a heart of obedience, not a garment. God does not expect anyone to wear a headcovering. That is like the Pharisees would do following rules of a group of men. You did hear the Holy Spirit freeing you from man made rules.
It’s sad to see so many still under that bondage. Do not let them sway you. God is good! And He is so faithful to us. He gives us clear instructions, if one feels different then by all means they should follow their own conviction. But a conviction is not a church rule 😌
So refreshing to hear this!! It was never Jesus's command to wear a certain manmade thing.. it was a manmade rule that divided the church years ago and it's still doing the same which is sad! You will recieve nasty comments and even loose friends but i pray the curses will not reach your life in the mighty name of Jesus!!💗 your peace and joy is so much greater then anything ppl will say or think! Praise the Most High!
What a shame,, she tell holy Spirit tells her ,to take off her head coverings, holy Spirit talk against the Bible? , it's her imagination, she don't want to cover her hair that's why she make this story, many people comment here ,head covering is not important, then whats important, if the law is burden to woman ,they says it's not important, god only sees our heart, not our head coverings, if that's true then why God says that, is he mad?
@@tlmovieshorts6215 The point that the hostess is making that the Scriptures are in accordance to what the Holy Spirit told her. Did you not watch the whole video? She never mentioned that she is doing this because she simply did not want to wear it ONLY you are accusing her of that. Why would you make an unfounded accusation against the brethren? What religion are you from? She said she did it with tears so your conclusions sound very wrong and you make no support of your reason why someone should accept your interpretation that woman ought to wear something on their heads as opposed to hair being the covering. I would say it is a shame to read your accusatory comment and lack of basis.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter because I am not brainless like you, you support her only because you also accept her teaching If a long hair is covering, then why he write the whole chapter , do you think he is Brainless like you, If a hair is covering, then why he tell shave it off, She tells, holy Spirit tells her to take off the veil. she also speak brainless like you, First of all I am not judging her, How can holy Spirit tells against the Bible, Only you kind of people use holy Spirit name to avoid laws, because you kind of people not ready to Obey, thats why you twist scripture like your wish. if you cant twist scriptures, then they say we are under grace so law is not important. i hope you are also in that gang
I am not. I just think you need to be careful. You don’t want to cause someone else to fell away from God. God called me to cover my head. Some people who don’t cover would see this and wonder. That is all I am saying. The Holy Spirit can convent in many ways. There is nothing wrong with sharing your experience just title it differently so you don’t cause others to fell.
I don't see any problem with the title. In fact it would have been even better if it said something of how the Bible also convicted her to not wear a veil. But that is ok it still is a good title. Your fear is unfounded. How does anything being said here cause anyone to "fall away"? If the purpose is to tell people the truth and expose something to be wrong then we should be grateful. God never told anyone (as a doctrine) to wear a veil. The words Paul uses in the bible specifically in the King James makes no reference to a head covering. Most people like to use that phrase which means a separate object that one wears but that is not how Paul phrases it. It is disingenuous to say this because it is a rephrasing of Paul's words that state that a woman ought to cover her head. Covering the head in this case is the adverb or action not the noun of a hat or veil. Based on the surrounding verses Paul mentions hair on various occasions. So then why are we hung up on a physical and separate item that is not described in the passage? Paul makes it clear that the covering is the woman;s long hair in verse 15. We should be grateful that there is a clarification of Paul's words instead of following a misinterpretation that for some it seems to be taken almost as serious as the salvation message by head covering extremists which we should never allow.
@@Allahaziah1 I am not twisting anything you are actually the one stifling the truth so that others may not hear. Why don't you prove your position instead of pointing fingers.
Since some feel today that covering was merely customary, and modern churches do not embrace it, what about women today who pray with a pixie hair style? According to scripture, if she does not apply ( a veil?) then she is dishonoring….. her husband? What if she is single with short hair??
That's amazing! I'm so happy for you! In the end we must remember that we should first and foremost follow the teachings of Christ (as Christ teaches us about obedience and about not being afraid of judgement or hatred or even persecution from others many times, but never teaches anything about headcovering). Indeed it is written in the bible that the teachings of Christ are for every person in the world until the end comes, but it is written in the bible that the teachings of the apostles (whom we love and respect) were meant for certain groups of people at a certain time in history (corinthians, etc). The letters didn't have our names on them.. they weren't meant specifically for us. I see it that if we act as if these letters were directly written to us, we are lying to ourselves, because that's simply not true. And I think we are also disrespecting the authors of these letters as well as the people they were actually meant for, if we read them with that kind of a careless attitude.
I’ve been wanting to watch this since you posted it, thank you for sharing!! Too many times we do things “because that’s how it’s always been” and don’t know why we are doing it. I’ve seen people who wear head coverings have pride in how perfect it looks, how it makes them more submissive…… Isn’t that sin?? Each must work out their own salvation!! Again, THANK YOU!!
Is there a biblical example of the holy spirit instructing a woman to go against God's instructions? Can a man wear a hat in prayer and prophecy so long as his hair is short according to someone's standard?
I very much doubt the Holy Spirit convicted you of taking off your head covering. Maybe a spirit but not the Spirit of God !! You said you did not think it was a salvation issue,so why would have God convicted you? Be aware of the enemy is seeking whom he may decieve...😥
You can make wearing a head covering an idol if you do it because you think you have, too. Or just because what will people think... the heart behind it makes a difference making an idol out of it is a sin.... saying all of this I do wear one but not because someone thinks I should... or because I'm afraid of what people will think if I don't...
For those saying “I doubt if the Holy Spirit will Blah blah “ are you the Holy Spirit ?also you must know if the Lord Jesus can heal on the Sabbath…then The Lord’s Spirit too will do anything to break and loose you from your from bonds if you let him “ I also find it interesting how we have been able to manipulate this scripture to be a gateway to Salvation.
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible. I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.” I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11. It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased. You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief. The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality. Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil. I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless. “Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
I would have disagreed from the title of the video that your conviction was wrong or that the holy Spirit didn't speak to you,but on a second thought,i felt like listening to the end,so i did, What I've picked from your story is that you were never really convinced about head covering,you just did it out of compulsion, like they do it in my church,if I don't do it, what will people say,will i loose this or that??? So you did cover your head not because you accepted it, and even though you did it,you weren't happy or comfortable with it, Now my point,the Lord will not have you serve Him by compulsion, like you're being forced to do something for Him So for what i understand from your story,the holy Spirit may have been the one telling you to uncover,but I tell you the truth, He's not done with you yet?He wants to take you through a process,where you'll serve and love His laws, and when He's done, He'll still bring you back to headcovering,buy this time, you'll do it willingly, more grace to go through that process...love you
You claim that what you “picked” from her story is that she was never really convinced about head covering, and that she just did it out of compulsion…” yet she doesn’t phrase it that way but you seem to want to read it that way. Also you seem to ignore the fact that she was not thinking about head covering at the time when the Holy Spirit apparently told her to take it off. So it never seemed like it was something on her mind. Also, and most importantly, you seem to ignore the fact that she starts to read scripture that leads us to understand that the covering is long hair. The fact of the matter is that you do not like the idea that God is not telling women to cover their heads with some sort of hat. Perhaps you have been so indoctrinated that you cannot fathom the idea that Paul was referring to long hair when he refers to a woman being covered. So much so that you have rejected all the signs that Paul was talking about hair when he mentions it directly 3 times and indirectly with the words shorn and shaven 4 times. Not to mention ignoring the fact that he never mentions a hat or veil or cloth or fabric just that a woman ought to cover and a man ought to uncover which are verbs not nouns. That is likely why you are trying to convince her of your compulsion theory. The idea of head covering is a misinterpretation of the scriptures and you need to recognize that the passage in question if read in the KJ bible will not mention the idea of hats or veils. God wants you to be free from someone’s misinterpretation of the Scriptures just like any other person who thought what they were told was true like the LDS or JWs. God is working on you right now to come out of this idea so you can understand the Scriptures as he wants you to understand. May God help you and yours.
So it literally says women are to cover when praying or prophesying,,,,,,,so if paul is talking about the hair being the covering then why did he specify to for sure cover when praying n prophesying cause we have our hair on our head all the time🤷♀️ So now it actually does make perfectly sense that it has to b something we are to put on our head wen we are praying or prophesying ..... Which would have to b a cloth .....cause i'm sure we aren't going to take our hair off and then put it on wen we pray or prophesying......
* Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions… Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. If they were meant to be conditions then why would Paul say in verse 7… “For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.” If the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why assume Paul was saying that there were only TWO conditions in verse 4? Wouldn’t 7 override any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? But let’s continue. Verses 8 and 9 give us another understanding that Paul must have been referring to praying and prophesying as examples because he adds the order of creation into the mix. “For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. Neither was the man CREATED for the woman; but the woman for the man.” If Paul states that the creation order has something to do with the reason as to why women ought to cover (in long hair) and men to be uncovered (aka have short hair) then we can conclude that this doctrine must be bound in NATURE. That is to say that it must have taken place since the creation of Adam and Eve and BEFORE the manufacturing of veils or hats, and BEFORE the creation of churches, which is another reason why hair easily fits the mold. This is confirmed when reading verses 13 and 14 when Paul asks you to make an observational judgment that if it is comely (aka pleasant looking) for a woman to pray uncovered (in short hair) and that even NATURE teaches us that a man with long hair is shameful. Why would Paul ask you to think that something as unnatural as a woman without a hat would look off and then say something as natural as long hair would look off on a man? Paul was saying that not being covered in long hair especially while praying looks uncomely and in the same breath he continues and says men with long hair also looks naturally wrong. * So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? ….. If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. Now some have tried to argue that the covering is somehow Jesus or men (some erroneously add husband here as well). But since the passage in 1st Corinthians 11 already states that the man or Jesus are already referred to as the heads one should not mix things up and add that they are the covering especially when this word is referring to something else entirely, Plus it wouldn’t make sense if we were to replace the word covering, covered or uncovered with Jesus, man or husband. So, do the words “covered,” “cover,” “uncovered” and “covering” refer to long and/or short hair or some kind of foreign head covering? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words. “But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV So if the covering is long hair, then the words “covered” or “cover” (which are synonymous with “covering”) should be understood as long hair as well. If that’s true, then to be “uncovered” would mean “short hair.” If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head “covered.” Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 that’s because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair. * You Should Naturally Know Right from Wrong by Just Looking…. If these verses do not move you yet then here’s one that should definitely blow your mind. Paul asks you to make a judgment call in verse 13 as if one should naturally see a problem because he asks you to: "Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?" Paul is asking us to make a judgment. Based on what? The only option is based on observation. Therefore, if to be “uncovered” should mean to be without a veil, then one would have to explain in detail why a FABRIC VEIL should pop up in the average person’s mind when observing a woman praying. Why would you or I look at someone and think that a veil (or any other foreign object) is missing? Why should the lack of a veil make a praying woman not have a “pleasing appearance” (aka look comely)? Someone needs to explain this logically. This is important so please don’t dismiss it. Be honest with yourself do YOU really believe that the average person will look at an unveiled, praying woman and naturally think a VEIL or HAT is missing or would make her look unpleasing? Are we to assume that Paul expected the average person to have instilled within them the idea that a foreign object is missing from a woman? I have never seen or heard anyone say something like: "What a shame she is not wearing a veil on her head?” after looking at a long-haired, praying woman. To do so would be ludicrous. One would have to be literally BRAINWASHED to think that the average person would EVER think that a SEPARATE… UNNATURAL… OBJECT such as a veil would be missing on a praying woman’s head. There is no NATURAL or NORMAL reason to make such a judgment. But if the word “UNCOVERED” were to mean "SHORT HAIR." then it would make LOGICAL sense. For if I were to observe a woman who has a short haircut doing these holy things as we read in verse 5, then I can naturally judge (by sight) that something doesn’t look right that there is an unpleasing appearance. I think I can say with some assurance that many of us have done double takes when looking at a short-haired woman from behind especially if we are not sure if the person was male or female, which is a NATURAL reaction. The very next verse continues this line of thinking that things should be obvious to understand by mere observation when Paul says… "Doth not even NATURE itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him." 1st Corinthians 11:14 Note that verses 13 and 14 are two consecutive questions both of which ask you to NATURALLY or NORMALLY ASSUME or JUDGE that there is something wrong: whether it be OBSERVING a woman’s uncovered head (a.k.a. short hair) while praying or OBSERVING a man having long hair. In addition, by using the word “NATURE” one can’t even use the excuse that perhaps they were expecting only Christians to see something different. Clearly, if “nature” teaches us that something looks off then it must include all of mankind as nature teaches all of us both Christian and non-Christian. I would like to also add that these verses are NOT jumping from the discussion of a “veil” in verse 13 and then suddenly to “hair” in verse 14 like some would like to argue because you will note that verse 15 refers again to the woman which FLAT-OUT STATES the “covering” is to mean “long hair.” Therefore, there is NO EXCUSE to not understand the previous verses are referring to hair length. By this, we can understand verse 4 which states that it is shameful or dishonoring for a man to pray or prophesy with his head covered as I previously mentioned. I should note that verse 4 in NO WAY implies that the covering on the man can be placed on or taken off, like some like to argue, due to the false interpretation that the verse is exclusive to two conditions instead of seeing them as two examples. As mentioned before this verse simply states that it is dishonoring if a man does something holy or godly like praying or prophesying while covered in LONG HAIR.
I decided it was better for my soul to stop going to a mass where there are idols, men who allow others to call them father, the fable of purgatory, Mary veneration, works for salvation and so much more
I disagree with your conviction. The Holy Spirit wouldn't tell you to do something that the Bible tells you to do. If you have your head uncovered then your husband should have his head shaven. Remember there are 2 voices out there, Satan's voice can sound just as good as the Holy Spirit. If we hear a voice we need to check with God's word and she if it matches up with the Bible
I disagree with your comment. The Bible doesn't tell anyone to wear a hat or a veil. People who think that are misinterpreting God's words. I have come to realize it is mainly because people are reading bad translations that include the words: authority...wife...husband...symbol...veil...assembly. All of which you wont find in 1st Corinthians 11 of the King James Bible. That is why you say such things like "If you have your head uncovered then your husband should have his head shaven" You would not come to this conclusion had you been reading the KJV. Paul was referring to hair when talking about coverings, Not once does he say cloth or fabric or veil yet he uses words in relation to hair 7 times. Satan has been fooling people for years with bad translations don't be one of them. Read for yourself and see the differences. Many modern bibles leave out many verses or have words that should not have been included. Stick to the KJV and you will note how off people have been on this and many other doctrines.
@defendingthegospel721 I do have the KJV. it must be that you are using a different Bible. Have you ever heard of the Headship order?? First, I wear my veil because God instructed us to wear one, and also, God is first, then my husband then me under him, and I want to honor God and my husband. I am a happy woman who covers her head with a veil because that is what God tells us what to do
@@marymiller4744 If you do have the KJV then why are you mentioning mentioning your husband? I already stated that the KJV of this particular passage does not mention the word husband or wife. Yet you are including him in this conversation. The headship order refers to ALL men and all women. But I would have you know, that the head of EVERY MAN is Christ; and the head of the woman is the MAN; and the head of Christ is God. (EVERY MAN NOT EVERY HUSBAND) So instead of following what is written it seems that you are following someone's interpretation. You claim that God instructed women to wear one but there is no evidence of that. Paul says certainly that a woman ought to cover her head but the question is with what. The assumption is with a veil or hat, but that is not mentioned in the Bible what IS mentioned is the fact that Paul said that the long hair was given to the woman for a covering. So AGAIN you are not following what is written but someone's interpretation. One honors God by simply following him not whether or not you walk around with a hat on your head. The covering is long hair therefore as long as you are not walking around with a manly haircut you are ok. I know of many women who live Godly and blessed lives without a hat on their heads but are obedient in that they keep their hair long. If you choose to wear a hat then that is ok but we should not make it seem like there was some obscure doctrine that one must manipulate and rephrase in order to follow. God bless.
@defendingthegospel721 I am not following someone's interpretation. I am following God!!! So can you explain to me why the women wore a head covering back when Jesus was still on earth?? If it's not important then He would have told them that they don't have to wear one. You sound like someone that doesn't wear a covering and you don't want anyone else to wear one as well. So sad!! May God Bless You
@@marymiller4744 With all due respect I would like to interject here in that it IS someone's interpretation. You said to defendingthegospel721 that you are following God but haven't offered a decent BIBLICAL reason as to why you mentioned the word "husband" or the word "veil" when neither is mentioned in 1st Corinthians 11 in the KJV. You asked if he could explain why the women wore a head covering back when Jesus was still on earth? I have to ask... what women are you talking about? Could you direct me to the verse(s) that says that women wore head coverings during Jesus's time and that they wore it for religious reasons and not for practical reasons? In any event I would like to read where it says this at all. I hope you are not going by movies or drawings. If it were important Jesus or Paul would have said something very specific about this but they didn't, the issue that Paul was relaying is that men should keep their hair short and women's long and offers the reasons why. Then you stated that he sounded like someone...who doesn't want anyone else to wear a veil when he specifically stated that "If you choose to wear a hat then that is ok" So why are you claiming that he is saying something different? I think you are allowing your emotions to get the better of you because his words do not reflect your interpretation.
Laying aside traditions of the mennonites is difficult since you meet so much criticism. Trust the process girl. I was convicted to take mine off because it had become a to much of a focus point to me. Later I sensed the Lord propmting me to read that scripture again. The true meaning came forth. Now i cover with a head band in church, work and hen I go into a group where covering is a Salvation issue. Otherwise I dont regularly.
Covering around people who feel covering is important. Otherwise you don’t??? Do you hear yourself?🥹 fear of man keeps so many people from living the life they’re called to live. Get rid of it!!🤯
@@bsmvideos941 from a distance it may appear like the fear of man. But respect is a command as well. A godly woman encouraged me to look at the group you will be with and dress accordingly out of respect. Especially if you are relating to strict mennonites one day and inner city kids the next. I dress so that my dress isn't the conversation piece but the Love of Christ flowing forth. I get lots of hate regardless since my covering isn't sufficient in their eyes but for me it is.
What a shame,, she tell holy Spirit tells her ,to take off her head coverings, holy Spirit talk against the Bible? , it's her imagination, she don't want to cover her hair that's why she make this story, many people comment here ,head covering is not important, then whats important, if the law is burden to woman ,they says it's not important, god only sees our heart, not our head coverings, if that's true then why God says that, is he mad?
@@tlmovieshorts6215 The point that the hostess is making that the Scriptures are in accordance to what the Holy Spirit told her. Did you not watch the whole video? She never mentioned that she is doing this because she simply did not want to wear it ONLY you are accusing her of that. Why would you make an unfounded accusation against the brethren? What religion are you from? She said she did it with tears so your conclusions sound very wrong and you make no support of your reason why someone should accept your interpretation that woman ought to wear something on their heads as opposed to hair being the covering. I would say it is a shame to read your accusatory comment and lack of basis.
why would the spirit say otherwise then God, it does not make sense, why would the spirit change then God's word will not shage, woman say the long hair is a covering, but soon they star cutting them and it get shorter and shorter every time, ifir me i don't believe God would make our life easier when we don't use it anymore he is the one who wants us to use it specially when we pray
I would like to add my two cents here after reading this discussion. First of all I believe we should follow the teaching in 1st Corinthians 11. The main problem here is the misunderstanding of 1st Corinthians 11 altogether. I also have made an intense study of this passage, and the obvious conclusion is that Paul was referring to long hair being the covering. The first thing one should take notice is the lack of wording required to conclude that a veil is being referred to here. The word veil or cloth is not in the text if we read from the King James version. If you read from the “modern” versions then you might get that view but not from the Textus Receptus. I would like for you to reread the verses that allegedly refer to a veil which is 4-7 and 13. In those verses we read the words, cover, uncovered and not covered. According to scholars these are used as adverbs. Like if you were to say I am going to cover my feet. No one should be thinking of a veil just the action of being covered. What is missing in these verses are nouns that would prove the idea of veils. Since we should not be assuming anything we should be asking the question what is the thing that a woman should be covered WITH based on the passage ALONE? So if you do the math you would find that Paul refers to hair directly 3 times and then indirectly 4 times with the words shorn and shaven. So if there is no noun for the word veil or cloth yet there are 7 instances of idea of hair, then what are we to conclude? That Paul is referring to hair whether it be short or long. But the counterargument would be that Paul is allegedly telling women to put something on. But that is not exactly true it says a woman should be covered, but he is referring to long hair based on the surrounding verses. But what about that a woman ought to be covered when praying or prophesying? The assumption is a that Paul was referring to only two instances which is not true he was merely giving us two examples. This also applies to men about being uncovered. Evidence of this is written in the forgoing verses. Paul writes that men ought not to cover because he is the image and glory of God. And then Paul goes into how woman was made for man and is the glory of the man. So it would seem that man shouldn’t be covered at any time if he is the glory and image of God. Paul also mentions that the mere observation of a praying woman should make us note how uncomely (unappealing in appearance) for a woman to be uncovered. Paul states this in a way that it should be obvious to anyone that she looks off in verse 13. He does this again in verse 14 about how shameful it looks if a man has long hair. He says it this way… Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? KJV So this judgement that we should make is exclusively based on observation of an “uncovered” woman as well as a long haired man. Two consecutive questions both appealing to something innate or within us. Paul is in essence saying that it should be obvious to see that something is wrong or off. So how is it that for the women we are somehow to know within us that a woman would be unappealing in appearance without a manufactured veil? That does not seem logical especially since the word veil is never mentioned. Unless that is not what Paul is meaning but rather that if the woman was not covered in long hair (meaning her hair is short) doing something holy or godly LIKE praying or prophesying. I think most people can relate that looking at a woman with short hair does have an unappealing appearance. It naturally provokes head turns. And if there was any question Paul flat out states what he was talking about in verse 15. So the facts are that there no nouns to use as evidence of a veil. There is evidence that Paul was using praying and prophesying as examples. Paul appeals to nature and something innate within us to judge that being uncovered or covered (meaning having short hair or long hair) should be obvious to all. So this cannot make sense with a manufactured veil.
I for sure don’t agree that the Holy Spirit asked you to do that, that definitely was not the Holy Spirit , he would never ask you to do something like that ,that you grew up with knowing that the Bible clearly says you need to have your hair covered. They’re are various other scriptures that go along with this for instance the head covering is a sign of headship order God over man man over woman also the translation for head covering in Greek was “cloth covering “ for instance when Mordecai was dealing with Haman it says he covered his head I doubt he grew long hair all of the sudden. I feel like we where given so much and so much teaching it was all given to our younger generation and we jus take it all for granted and throw away things we’ve been taught based on something that we feel. All our lives were taught to honor God by covering our heads it’s submission it’s honor and I don’t think he’d tell you to take it off during a worship service. Many prayers for you
Well I can agree that the Holy Spirit asked her to do that. Your belief that it wasn’t is because you are under the belief that the Bible says that one needs to have their hair covered. The Bible NEVER says the words “HAIR COVERED.” It says that the HEAD not hair must be covered. By sneaking this word in you give the false impression that Paul was asking to cover hair which works in YOUR favor as it THEN makes sense to believe in a hat to cover hair. But since it REALLY doesn’t say that then one can make a logical argument that one should cover their HEAD with HAIR. The Bible NEVER says that the head covering is a sign of headship order. IF covering meant long hair as verse 15 clearly states then you are wrong to say that a hat or veil is a sign of headship order. The translation for head covering in Greek is NOT “cloth covering “ Your example of Mordecai when dealing with Haman when it says he covered his head that you doubt he grew long hair all of the sudden is somewhat deceptive. Because you are using one instance of the word covered (in the Old Testament) that works well into your theory. Plus the Hebrew word for covering does not include the word cloth. But what if we were to find OTHER verses that use the word covered or covering? Also let’s find them in the SAME Greek translation which is where this whole thing started from (meaning in the NEW testament and in 1st Corinthians 11) as opposed to using the OT in Hebrew to avoid Hebrew and Greek translation conflicts. If we were to do a search for the word “covering” in the NT and in the KJV we will find only ONE time it is used and it is the verse that already DEFINES what the covering is. But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. 1st Cor 11:15 So let’s keep looking, let’s look for the word cover or covered since that is the word you chose to focus on regarding Haman. “…But Haman hasted to his house mourning, and having his head COVERED.” Esther 6:12b Matthew 8:24 says that the ship was covered with the waves. Matthew 10:26 say for there is nothing covered that shall not be revealed Luke 8:16 say No man when he lighteth a candle covereth it with a vessel. There are many more but the point is not every word that uses the word cover in one way or another MUST mean a cloth veil. I also lament that even though we have the Word of God with us today people still misinterpret the Bible. Sometimes it’s because that is the way THEIR church wishes to interpret the scriptures. That is why we have so many conflicting churches with opposing doctrines that claim that they have the truth when in reality they don’t. People normally don’t do the research like I am offering you right know that show that one CAN be wrong. Maybe you might have the right intentions or are sincere but that does not mean that one cannot be sincerely wrong. God never taught for women to cover their heads that is a misinterpretation just like the many churches who were wrong about infant baptism, works for salvation, the belief in making Popes etc and that for CENTURIES. This ONE little doctrine is NO different. This is not about feelings but the actual word of God and what it says. It never mentions the words “worship service” yet people somehow have interpreted two words (praying and prophesying” to mean that and have muddle Paul’s true meaning simply that women ought to cover their heads with LONG hair and men’s with short hair especially if they do something LIKE praying or prophesying. May God open your eyes.
FA is right if you read the KJV does not mention covering hair it says covering the head. Perhaps you are reading from a corrupt modern version of the Bible that has tons of errors in it.
What a shame,, she tell holy Spirit tells her ,to take off her head coverings, holy Spirit talk against the Bible? , it's her imagination, she don't want to cover her hair that's why she make this story, many people comment here ,head covering is not important, then whats important, if the law is burden to woman ,they says it's not important, god only sees our heart, not our head coverings, if that's true then why God says that, is he mad?
If we follow those who subscribe to the doctrine of women wearing veils, then it can be argued that the most often cited verse is 1st Corinth. 11:5, which states: “But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.” According to many of those who believe women ought to wear veils this verse supposedly implies that a woman’s uncovered head is a woman who does not wear a veil. Such a woman is either dishonoring God, their own physical head or her husband for failing to wear it which implies that they are in disobedience. Some have gone so far as to say it is a sin. Another assumption is that the woman being referred to already has long hair and since they conclude that the covering is a veil then it must be referring to an “additional” covering otherwise it would clash with verse 15 stating that God gave women long hair for a covering. Another conclusion is that women ought to be covered ONLY when praying and prophesying which would make it seem as though it were something that can be placed on or taken off like a veil. You’ve probably noticed by now it takes several assumptions to reach the conclusion that women ought to wear a foreign object on their heads, despite the lack of evidence. * Does the Bible really give a clear command that women should wear a veil? The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT say the word “veil “or any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the woman’s head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. The verses in question within 1st Corinthians 11 mention the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word “cover” is often unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is actually stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures. Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions in order to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic? If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there aren’t really “two” conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument. The reasoning behind why the “two-condition” argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples. * Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions… Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. For example, if the strongest argument is because there were conditions for women to wear veils because of verse 5 then why don’t we hear the same thing spoken of about men in verse 4? “Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.” Normally we do not hear the argument that men ought not to have their heads covered exclusively under two conditions as we hear for women as to why they should. I think it is because that would imply that they CAN have their heads covered under other circumstances like the examples I mentioned before as in speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. But I suspect a veil promoter would not go along with this. Then there is verse 7: “For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.” So, there seems to be ANOTHER reason for men not to cover. Therefore, if the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why even mention praying or prophesying in verse 4? Should a man not be covered under ANY condition since verse 7 overrides any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? Verses 4 and 5 are basically the same except for whom they are directed yet when one hears the arguments by veil promoters it is typically about how verse 5 is conditional for women yet for men in verse 4 it is usually not spoken of. Again, isn’t it more likely that Paul was using the words praying and prophesying as examples in both verses? We can also get a sense that Paul was referring to praying and prophesying as examples if we read verse 13 when it only mentions the word praying and NOT prophesying. “Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?” If there were only two exclusive conditions, then why would he leave out prophesying? We can’t say he got tired in his writing as he mentioned both words in verses 4 and 5. So, what can we say about this? Just that Paul was giving us a couple of examples of how doing something HOLY or GODLY does not give a pleasant appearance if the woman is uncovered, meaning not covered in long hair and the same goes for men when their heads are covered in long hair since that is exactly one is supposed to understand when reading verse 14. * So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? ….. If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. In that case, what we should be asking when mentioning the words “covered,” “cover,” “uncovered” and “covering” is: Are they referring to long or short hair or some kind of foreign object that goes on the head? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words. “But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV So if the covering is long hair, then the words “covered” or “cover” (which are synonymous with “covering”) should be understood as long hair as well. If that’s true, then to be “uncovered” would mean “short hair.” If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head “covered.” Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 that’s because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Madam do you want to justify why you are not wearing, it shows you can't compramise a simple thing You don't want to wear veil thats why you wrote like this, Madam if Paul not taking about veil then why he wrote this chapter , if long hair is her veil, then why he tell her to shave it off Not wearing veil is not sin, but it shows you can't obey a simple thing. . it shows your disobedience First read verse don't put your thoughts You tell there is no word mentioned veil, because, that time people know how to cover their hair, with shawl are towel, scarf, Yeah,He said long hair is covering, he talk about additional covering, thats why tell only cover your hair in prayer worship prophecy time its still contineud in roman Catholic Churches, there is no big sin or small sin. sin means disobedience, adam and eve didn't do anything big like prostitution, rape, murder. they only eat fruit, disobedience is matter, disobedience is sin. do you think eating fruit is bigg sin. . that time woman cover their hair whole day, Paul said cover you hair, only in prayer time, simple thing but this generation people, twist the commandments specialy the laws of woman, they twist duetronamy law about wearing mens clothing, and head covering , and pastor work. it shows they can't obey a simple thing, specifically in this feminist era.
@@tlmovieshorts6215 First I'm a Mister not a Madam. You said “if Paul is not talking about veils then why did he wrote this chapter?” Answer : Paul was referring to women to cover their heads with LONG hair and therefore the reason is for women to keep the tradition of long hair and men short. You said “if long hair is her veil, then why he tell her to shave it off” Answer: Paul was saying that if she is NOT covered in long hair meaning that she had had short hair like a man then she should shave it ALL off. You said “Not wearing veil is not sin, but it shows you can't obey a simple thing” It may not be a sin but neither was Paul talking about veils. Therefore, pushing a false belief is a sin which is what YOU are doing right now. Paul is not asking anyone to obey in wearing a veil so whether YOUR interpretation is “simple” or not doesn’t matter if it is FALSE from the very beginning. You admit that Paul says that long hair is covering, and then you ADD that he is talking about an “additional” covering. That concept is not therefore you are adding to God’s words. Paul was only giving a couple of examples not two conditions when referring to prayer and prophecy, plus there is no need to ADD or assume Paul was referring to worship time, when that word is not there. Especially given the facts that prayer is to be done in secret and prophesy can be both done in a group or on a one on one moment. Then you really go down the rabbit hole by including the godless and pagan Roman Catholic Church. How can you even use them as an example given the many FALSE doctrines they preach? Are you Catholic? If so you need to leave this idol worshiping sect fast before it is too late. Many proponents insist that women had been wearing a head covering for centuries and that only recently (within the 1900s) did women begin to reject the idea, usually because of an introduction of some evil like the feminist movement as though this somehow supports or gives credence to their false interpretation. They never consider the fact that about that time more people were getting the word of God into their hands and as a result the possibility that they discovered that the old interpretations, held by many of these contradicting churches, were false. As an example, I recall when I was Catholic, I was shocked when I found the Bible to be contrary to Catholic dogmas. And they claim to have had the true word of God for centuries! It is logical to think that as more people read the Scriptures with their own eyes, they would naturally discover many false doctrines pushed by many sects and even within their own church. So, one cannot just assume that one specific movement or event caused many to reject this or any other doctrine.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Fist Bible never tell us to follow the tradition, Bible is gods word not traditional book, If Paul want to follow the traditioln of veil, he can tell cover your hair hole day , I already tell you sir this chapter taking about additional covering, Only in prayer time. If long hair is covering, he I'll tell women to don't cut your hair, simple, but he didn't tell them only don't cut your hair, he also tell cover your hair. If it's a traditional, he can tell, cover your hair day and night. But he didn't, Bible never teach us a traditional thing's. It's also for duetronamy law sir . Why mainly this generation Bible words are contradicts specifically in women laws. Because disobeying women contradict these verses, not bible,bible is clear, If i can't obey some law I'll tell god to give me a strength to obey, but I never twist lwas because of I can't obey
It says your hair is given for a covering, not as a covering. You read, “for a covering” then said “ as a covering”. That is where you are wrong. If a woman’s head is to be covered and the hair is the covering, then if the man is not to have his head covered and the hair is the covering, that means that all men must have their head shaven.
We have to be careful how we interpret the Bible, the Holy Spirit helps us to understand the Bible on a level we can’t understand it on our own. When I was baptized with the Holy Spirit and started walking with him I understood the Bible in a way I never had before because the Holy Spirit opened my spiritual eyes and I was no longer reading it through the eyes of religion.
This is a very extreme interpretation of what the hostess mentioned. Why would you conclude that men go bald if the woman's hair is the covering. I don't understand your logic. If the woman's LONG hair is her covering (verse 15) therefore when it says a woman's head ought to be covered it means to be covered in long hair. That is the LOGIC being stated. So if a man's head ought to be UNcovered wouldn't that logically just mean the opposite? That He should not be covered in long hair? Being a male I am not covered in long hair but neither is it shaven (bald) as I have short hair. So I don't understand why you would make this conclusion?
If you believe we are saved by faith through grace, then nothing is a salvation issue beyond that, is it? Why do we keep saying something isn't a salvation issue if you don't believe in doing anything for salvation to begin with? Whether you think it's for salvation or not is a moot point. The point is what Paul says about keeping the traditions.... So then brothers stand firm and hold to the traditions you were taught by us either by word or by letter. 2nd Thessalonians 2:15 And see what Paul says about those who don't hold to tradition.... 2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw yourselves from every brother who walks in rebellion and not after the tradition which they received from us. So, in your attempt to avoid division, I fear that you have caused division by being what Paul calls in 1st Corinthians 11:16, the contentious one. You're saying its up to the individual, but that's not what scriptures are saying. So you are teaching division, confusion, and disobedience.
Look, even the Catholic Church, in the 1960s, decided to stay out of the argument, and "abrogate", whatever the heck THAT means. Basically, its the womans choice. Frankly it should always be her choice! Wear it because you want to, because you feel beautiful, or at least street legal! And little girls want to wear it because Mom looks beautiful! Happens a lot. I hope a beautiful silk scarf changes your mind, one day!😅
Sorry Mrs Yoder, but everything we do is a salvation issue, especially if we blatantly disregard what the Bible teaches. In other words if we are truly saved we will gladly obey. We are only as spiritual as we are scripuel
@@defendingthegospel721 Yes we are saved by grace, not of works. But why do people who do not believe in obeying the Bible stop with verse 9? Read on. Verse 10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." Also, if it has nothing to do with what we DO, what do you do with I Corinthians 6:10? "You know that wicked people will not inherit the kingdom of God, don’t you? Stop deceiving yourselves! Sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals, thieves, greedy people, drunks, slanderers, and robbers will not inherit the kingdom of God." (International Standard Version). Our actions reveal our hearts. As James2:18 says, "you show me your faith without your works and I will show you my faith BY my works."
@@anthonyblades1072 There seems to be an assumption here when you said “But why do people who do not believe in obeying the Bible stop with verse 9? Read on. Verse 10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." It seems like you are trying squeeze out an idea that is NOT being transmitted in verse 10. If we are HIS workmanship, then it was God who worked not us. Not sure how you are misinterpreting this. Then it says we are CREATED in Christ Jesus unto good works. If we are created, meaning after we are born again, then it is after becoming saved we are made to do good works. But it is not hinged on doing good works that we are saved. Jesus gave a great explanation of a man who cast out demons (a supernatural event) and did many wonderful works but was not allowed into heaven because even though he claimed to know the Lord he hinged his salvation on those works when God already sent his Son Jesus to die on the cross and spilled his blood, (without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins). Matt7:21-27 Even his disciples asked What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. John 6:28-29 As for I Corinthians 6:10 people who do any of these things and call themselves Christian are what is known as false converts. Meaning that they were NOT really meaning what they were saying. The idea is very similar to someone who claims to be in love with two different people. It is obvious that they really don’t mean what they SAY because their actions prove that they don’t. So there is no such thing as being a TRUE believer and say being gay. So what you said is kind of true that “our actions reveal our hearts” but only that a true conversion never really took place for them to be transformed into a NEW creature. The same thing is understood in James 2:18 in that our works would reflect our true conversion. See this video that I hope helps, ruclips.net/video/2yVwKtFdJ_I/видео.html Recall that the man who died next to Jesus was on a cross and had no time to do any physical work of any kind. In fact he didn’t even say much but to remember him when Jesus enters into his kingdom. But if we combine the work that Jesus said before which was to believe in him whom he hath sent then there was a kind of work by admitting Jesus was King and acceptance of who he was and is. Was he not saved despite Jesus saying that he would be with him in paradise? You see how there is something missing or off with your conclusions? God bless.
@Sarah-fs6li Jesus and exactly when did Jesus command a woman to put on a hat? Cause he definitely did not say anything when the woman wiped his feet with her hair, which would have been the perfect moment . It is not in the Bible you are grossly mistaken.
My intention was never to cause division and arguments between brothers and sisters of Christ. I was just sharing my personal conviction and even though it may not be everyone’s conviction that is ok❤️ I think we can all agree the most important thing is sharing God with the world around us and letting our lights shine for Him. I personally don’t think the topic of the head covering is a salvation issue so therefore it should not be what divides us🙏
❤ Praise Jesus! Putting God first!
Yes, praise Jesus! 🙏🏼
Praise Jesus. Thank you for this testimony and the verses mentioned. I have been around this topic for a while and never seem to find someone giving a testimony that God told them to take off the veil, usually its the other way around. Bless you for taking a stand and for your bravery in making this video. God bless.
On Corinth the priestesses of Aphrodite would take off their coverings to prophesy and that was creeping into the church which was what Paul was addressing when talking about having their heads uncovered. The Holy Spirit and the Bible will never contradict each other , and when we say that we don't need to do what the Bible says we are setting ourselves above God, saying we don't need to do what he says.
I am not trying to condemn you but please rethink this!
Thinking of your experience of saying you will do whatever the holy Spirit will ask of you, Satan can take that and seem very real and disguise himself as an angel of light. Who did he go after in the garden? He went after the woman with something that "seemed" so real and spiritual. Please be careful.♥️
@@user-oe2or5jb2r Your obscure alleged story about priestesses of Aphrodite that would take off their coverings to prophesy sounds very much like a scare tactic. You claim that this alleged story is what “Paul was addressing when talking about having their heads uncovered.” How would you know what was in Paul’s head? What writings are you using to claim this idea so one can verify? Because I have read many other stories about why Paul wrote this and this is a new one to be sure.
It is true that the Holy Spirit and the Bible will never contradict each other which I think no one here is doing. It would seem that you are likely following a different story and interpretation of the Bible. Are you using the KJV? Paul was referring to long hair as the covering so to say that “we don't need to do what the Bible says” would be an error the correct idea is that we don’t need to do what someone else had interpreted. Though I am not sure what other writings you are using but may I suggest that you stick to the KJV and really go through this passage carefully because there are no words that mention cloth or fabric but there are several words or phrases that Paul used that identify with hair (hair 3x, shorn 2x and shaven 2x). The enemy has played with people’s beliefs through corrupt manuscripts and translations so I urge you to be careful in what you are reading and from where they come from. God bless.
I went through cancer and chemo in 2017. I lost all of my hair and didn't get all of it back for two years. I learned through that experience what a gift from God my hair was. I now proudly wear my hair uncovered because it grew back so beautiful and the Holy Spirit realize the blessing that it is and God's gift to me. Thank you for your testimony and your sweet Godly spirit that you have. You are an inspiration to me and many others. I would like to say that I do not judge others who feel like they should wear a covering because they are doing it from the heart and the Lord sees and knows that 🌹
I'm glad your hair grew back! Mine is just starting to come back, but im still under a scarf for now. I've been wearing them 4 years now and I'm kinda used to it!
Amen
I can really relate to you, Suetta. I was convicted of the headcovering. God showed me it can be an idol, and it can be who you are serving instead of Jesus. Thank you for your courage to step out in faith. God bless you!
The Holy Spirit is setting you free, one stronghold at a time.
Blessings on your journey, and thank you for being so open and honest. What a powerful moment of joy, peace, and connection.
SuEtta, dear sister, thank you for your testimony about head coverings I am almost 73 and have been walking with the Lord for about 54 years. Although I have never worn a head covering, I have known many sisters that have struggled with that subject. I am so thankful that you listened to your Lord and that your husband affirmed that you indeed were hearing! My husband passed away last year and is with Jesus now. But I have always known that the Lord wanted me to have a meek and quiet spirit to be obedient and honor my husband. In so doing, we are adorning the doctrine of Christ in our lives & our husband's.
He wishes you to obey HIM otherwise you cannot be free .
Showing honour to your husband does honour the Lord.
A husband is also meant to honour his wife in the Peters gospel
In the middle east, lots of older women like us wear a scarf, while their modern daughters are out slaying 'em. It's not religious, it's secular trend means you blend right in with the crowd! Scarf up! It's for everybody!
Thank you for your story and for focusing on Christ rather than some misinterpretation on head coverings. God bless. 😊
Sweet girl, I am seeing so many similarities between your walk with God and my own! I wasn’t raised Amish, but my family was not Christian. We had alcohol around, and with my older siblings came some drug use. I was abused by more than one distant relative…. At eleven I found myself in a church. Jesus did a work that amazes me yet today! He taught me holiness! He taught me also how to dress and about my hair being my covering. With that not only my family said it wasn’t needed, so did the church I was attending. But I knew what God put in my heart. And then later I found scriptures to back up what I was feeling convictions about. I know I was in such a place the Lord let me feel it before I read it and before any human spoke it to me! He knew I wouldn’t except it if it came any other way. Sooo, keep listening and following his voice! His sheep know his voice! He gives us the Holy Ghost to lead us and guide us into all truth! We haven’t arrived yet, but he’s guiding, he’s speaking! Don’t let any nay sayers discourage you. Your creator is giving you precious nuggets of truth! I’m very proud of you! 🥰 praying for you!
My Dear Lady I am sorry to hear of the issues you had to go through and as sad it they were it seems you are following a misinterpreted doctrine. You claim that Jesus taught you how to dress and about your hair being your covering. How exactly did Jesus do that? What verses are you relying on? Or are you perhaps saying there was some religious experience? You would probably be surprised how many people have said that God put something in their hearts later to find some obscure scripture that can be manipulated to read it the way one wants to read it.
Convictions may be nice about some things but when it comes to claiming something to be a doctrine we would need more than just a feeling. For example if we were to focus on the KJV we won’t find words necessary to confirm head coverings like cloth, fabric or veil. It just says that the woman’s head ought to be covered. Paul was referring to hair. If the covering is long hair (verse 15) then to be uncovered means to be with short hair. The lack of head covering words is the most glaring thing here instead we get words for hair written 7 times throughout the passage. So if you believe in reading in context then we cannot assume that to be covered means to be covered in a hat or veil. Therefore in context it would seem that to be covered means to be covered in long hair and to be uncovered means to not be covered in long hair or to be more precise "short hair."
When confronted by these facts most people tend to ignore them or just pass it off as someone being disobedient. Most do not want to provide evidence of their beliefs though they declare it as though it was universally accepted. I can only hope that God illuminates you from this doctrine as it doesn’t help anyone in any way in fact it causes more problems as some women really think that they cannot pray at all unless something separate is on their heads.
God wants you and everyone here to be free from man-made and misinterpreted doctrines. His words are there to read and confirm that they constantly refer to hair and not a hat or a veil. God will help if you allow him. God bless and I will be praying for you.
The Holy Spirit is never confusing and he will NEVER contradict the Word of God!!!! So I also doubt it it was the Holy Spirit!
Your right the Holy Spirit would never contradict his word that is why the covering is long hair not a foreign object
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter If the hair is given the women for a covering and men aren’t supposed to be covered then why don’t they have their heads shaved ?
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Also read 1 Corinthians 11: 15+16 together
@@user-eb3xv3cx1z First of all one should note that a woman’s long hair is her covering according to verse 15. If the “covering” is long hair then to be “uncovered” means to have short hair. So if a man’s head should be uncovered, it is obvious that Paul is not saying a man’s head should be shaved bald. Logic dictates that if a woman’s head ought to be covered and say that it is to mean covered in LONG hair, then to be uncovered means the opposite, to not be covered in long hair. This implies that the person would have SHORT hair. So uncovered is not shaved bald it just means short hair.
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
I hadn't seen your channel in a long time but I caught you on Facebook and I thought, something is different about Sue. You seem so full of the Spirit and Grace. I too have a man fear. I hope I could be as strong as you if the Lord asks something of me. Please continue to share. God bless you.
Aww thank you, praise the Lord🙌 I could not do it on my own strength🙏
There are 2 spirits please remember that!! God would not tell you to uncover your head.... that verse says the hair is FOR a covering it doesn't say it is a covering... please study into that a little more... blessings
Agree 100%
How many men do you know cover there heads with a hat? If we take it physically than men should never cover. I never understood the double standard.
@@elle_noltman are not to cover their heads while praying or prophesying. Be precise!
With all due respect not putting on a hat or veil is not uncovering one's head. Paul was referring to hair. If the covering is long hair (verse 15) then to be uncovered means to be which short hair. Your play with words about "for" or "is" is irrelevant. Lets see if rephrasing it would help .... For a covering God gave women long hair. The word "for" does not diminish the idea that hair is a covering. It certainly does the job of covering the head. But the most glaring thing about this is that there are no words like fabric or cloth or even the word veil in the KJV that one can point to and say they are referring to a separate object. In stead we get words for hair written 7 times throughout the passage. So if you believe in reading in context then we cannot assume that to be covered means to be covered in a hat or veil. Therefore in context it would seem that to be covered means to be covered in long hair and to be uncovered means to not be covered in long hair or to be more precise "short hair."
Like you said studying the Bible a little more makes us understand that at no time does Paul used words to define a synthetic covering as matter fact he repeatedly refers to hair. God bless.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter ok so if it means the hair is the covering then all men should shave their heads because they are not to be covered?? If people would stick with the original writing of the bible and not the revised ones maybe they wouldn't be so confused.
Let's be careful when we say the Holy Spirit told us to do something. May we truly search HIS word before we do something ! I would like to share this For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a women to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. This further explains the last part of verse 5. By going unveiled, a woman brings herself the same measure of shame that would accompany the shaving of the head. The grammatical construction in the greek would permit this rendering. " Since it is a shame for a woman to be ..." In that time and place, for a woman to cut her hair was still regarded as a shame. Thus this verse deals with more than just a veiled head; it speaks to cutting the hair Undoubtedly, shorn or cut hair is longer than hair that has been shaven, but it is here represented as equally shameful. Notice the expression "shorn or shaven." Both are categorized as shameful. On top of that, not wearing the covering is also equally shameful. A woman shows the God ordained witness by having her head covered.
Look at it as God’s spiritual headship for His people. Also comparing other scripture that God has said is very important than to isolate a verse or a chapter. God talks about not pleasing man which she made clear. We answer to God not man. God also says in His word that he looks at the heart not outward appearance. Just because someone dresses plain and wears a covering doesn’t make it right. God sees if their is pride in our hearts. It’s just not people dressing plain it can go for those that don’t. When a attitude of I think I’m better it is pride. We are all sinners and have fallen short. We are to honor God with all are heart, mind, and body. How is someone able to do that living in fear that there prayers are not going to reach God if it is not covered? It goes back to the heart. God sees why women cover and if it is becoming an idol and a burden. Remember the gospel is full of addressing the religious people. Our salvation is in what Jesus did on the cross. Not by our works. Blessings to you❤
@@elle_nolt this is why people turn away from Western Christianity. You guys have a comprehension struggle. Luckily, this is NOT the rest of the world.
that was a jewish practice but it seems like reverting back to rules.
If this lady prays and feels convicted and is walking with the Lord then she is correctly guided
This applied to the Temple where prostitutes were outside with uncovered heads
1 Corinthians 11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
I really appreciate this testimony, and I believe you when you say you sensed the Lord telling you to take the head covering off. You made a commitment to Him that you would obey him WHATEVER He says. He heard that and answered. I also agree with the scripture that you used to back up that conviction. I believe, too, that the Lord has given my long, uncut hair as a covering. I thought it very interesting that you pointed out how God’s word talks about our HEAD being covered, NOT our hair. I need to go back and read those verses again. I appreciate you being willing to share this.
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sara-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical.
But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible.
I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.”
I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11.
It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased.
You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief.
The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality.
Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil.
I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless.
“Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
So amazing how the Holy Spirit works in us and teaches us, right? My experience was the other way around for a period. I come from a very different background than you, I come out of a atheistic family, went in to Witchcraft and by the grace of God got saved and born again at the age of 33. But boy was there a lot of sanctification to do in me! I know, in everyone an we are never done until we are with Him. But for me a lot of my issues were about pride and stubbornness on one side and fear of men on the other. At one point God asked me to start to wear head covering and I just didn't dare because of what people would think of me. But then I tried it out when I was all alone and asked God to confirm for me if this was really what he was asking of me. So I wore a head covering and started to pray. And the Holy Spirit came and the peace and warmth that you also describe came over me so strongly. So I started wearing it fulltime after that. In that period God taught me important lessons about headship, surrendering to Him, being submissive to my husband, praying constantly and obeying God even when people would talk about me. It was just for a period of two years though, and then I felt it was enough. I did feel a bit of the fear of men again, what would people think about me now! But it was enough and I had peace uncovering now. So grateful for what the Holy Spirit is doing in each of our lives, exactly the way we need it personally. Thank you for you testimony, it was good to hear :) Be blessed!
Thankfully one does not need to wear a veil in order to know the peace and warmth that comes from the Holy Spirit, in addition to learning important lessons about headship, surrendering to God, being submissive to a husband, praying constantly and obeying God. I am thankful to God that I have met many many women who have received the Holy Spirit and are following God's words and can see for myself how God alone can change someone to become a daughter in Christ. I pray that we all follow God and his words and not someone's interpretation regarding 1st Corinthians 11:1-16, especially verse 15 for us to understand what Paul was actually teaching. God bless.
You're right.
God is with us.
Good luck
Thank you for sharing your testimony! All glory to God!
Keep fighting the good fight,Girl. God doesn’t want us to fight about this issue.,You do what God called you to do and that’s What we All Should be doing is listening to Gods Quiet Voice above the loud voices of everyone and everything…….,💕Hugs I’ve been there as well……A lot of this really shows you who are truly your friends
God’s blessings on you! Thanks for sharing ❤
Hey suetta! I love love this! Years ago after we left the amish, i had that same struggle. I have a pretty similar story to what you have! Very excited that you were willing to obey, even though a lot of people are never gonna understand!
Church history proves the covering was worn up until the early 1900's. Please do research on this.
Did you ever think about the anabaptists and how they were persecuted for their faith? When a anabaptist/Christian was being tortured, and there was crowds watching, I don't think the Christians stood out so (for example wearing a head covering, maybe wearing a plain coat) because if they stood out in the crowds as a Christian they would be persecuted immediately. I believe Christians dressed exactly like the culture around them. The only thing that made them different was the Holy Spirit living in their hearts and people could tell how they lived their life not by how they dressed.
@@rhondalayman2315 If I am not mistaken, most women wore something on their heads in the 1500's. We have drawings of the early Anabaptists and the women are covered. The early Church writings speak of a covering being worn especially in a Church service and when out in public. Yes, they dressed like the simple peasants of their day. Simple unadorned clothing with no outward bodily adornment was the style. I used to be New Order Amish.
@@rhondalayman2315 yess!
What does church history have to do with the Bible. Catholic church history preaches the pope, that they are infallible, purgatory, infant baptism, works for salvation. Church history is not the same as scriptural evidence. Please rethink your logic.
I suppose that same spirit will also convict you of wearing a dress or skirt and that you should wear pants??? I’m so confused how the Holy Spirit convicts some women to wear a veil and then also convicts others not to wear one!!!! I don’t believe God and the Holy Spirit give us confusion like that!!!
Also probably in church to cause a scene.
Did you watch the rest of the video when she pulls out scripture to prove that what the Holy Spirit told her matched? What confusion are you talking about?
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter I watched the entire video! The confusion is that I know many women who started covering their heads because the scripture and the Holy Spirit made it clear to them that they should cover!! None of these women grew up in homes that even taught about covering or even knew it was in the scriptures until they became a Christian and started searching the Word of God and following the Holy Spirits leading!! The confusion to me is WHY would God ask some to cover and others to uncover????? Also by the way those that uncover are almost always 100% women that grew up being covered but possibly never being taught what the scripture actually means.
@@janetmast1771 Well just as offer a bit of information just as you mentioned that you knew many women who started wearing them who never knew it was in the scriptures. There is an entire group of Mennonites who OBVIOUSLY grew up knowing this "interpretation" of the head covering and obviously grew up on that who broke from the this belief and do not wear a hat or veil. This was very shocking to me when I learned about that. So whether one were never taught or knew all too well this interpretation (like the Mennonites) is irrelevant.
I agree that it is confusing to think that God would ask some to cover and others to uncover. That is why I believe he wouldn't. The problems lies with peoples misinterpretation of what is the covering. Verse 15 says LONG hair is the covering. There are far too many verses that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Paul is referring to hair whether it be long or short which he refers to as covered or uncovered.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter I’m not talking of Mennonites covering!! I’m talking of people that nothing to do with religious groups but God got a hold of their lives!! The change in their hearts and lives is obvious that Jesus saved them!! They are seeking after God and the Holy Spirit has led them to be convicted to cover! Are they following the Wrong God and Holy Spirit????????
Follow the voice and conviction of Holy Spirit, always. Thank you for sharing your heart.
Your testimony was great! And your precious daughter stole the show 😂
I also believe the woman’s hair is her cover for her head.
It should be obvious to everyone but people like to complicate things. Thank you for expressing this truth.😍
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical.
But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible.
I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.”
I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11.
It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased.
You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief.
The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality.
Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil.
I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless.
“Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
I haven't watched this yet, so I cannot fully understand why you may think "the holy spirit convicted you" to take your covering off, but I would just like to say: God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical.
But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible.
I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.”
I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11.
It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased.
You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief.
The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality.
Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil.
I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless.
“Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
Many prayers for you! The Holy Spirit does not teach against the Bible. Unfortunately many will be deceived. I will keep you in prayer.
The Bible never refers to a head covering but that the head should be covered and given the context the scriptures ar clearly referring to hair that is long and can be shorn or shaven. Context proves its hair. I will be praying for you.
The Holy Spirit correvts is if we misinterpret what we read
Maybe it is the others who are
@@Celticmist-qz6ve hi, this is not misinterpreted. I believe you have misinterpreted. God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical.
But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible.
I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.”
I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11.
It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased.
You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief.
The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality.
Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil.
I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless.
“Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
So men should have shaved heads since the hair is a covering ?
She didn't say that at all. Listen to the scripture again
Suetta, keep listening to The Holy Spirit ! There will be other voices, but His is freedom in Christ❤️ Love you😊
@@wanitaweaver7536The Holy Spirit wouldn’t tell you to do something that’s against scripture
@trentonbuis1 so then what is the point of having Holy Spirit since Jesus left the earth? Why can't we just get direction from the Bible alone.
Well If the woman’s head is supposed to be covered and that in LONG hair then when it says that the man should be Uncovered they simply mean NOT COVERED IN LONG HAIR (aka short hair) anywhere and everywhere. You are for some reason associating the word uncovered with a shaved head. Therefore the logic you mention fails because you are not understanding the meaning of uncovered and covering since verse 15 doesn't say hair is the covering but that LONG hair is the covering. Read it again you will see it starts to make sense.
Thanks for sharing this with us. It's good to hear how God is working in your life.
Disregarding this practice is said to dishonor ones head. Which head? The head in view here is most likely ones spiritual head, which in case of the man is Christ and in the case of woman is man. The woman who who knowingly refuses to wear the veil projects herself into the man's position, essentially usurping authority under which he stands. We as Christian women would not say, "God, don't mind my disobedience; just answer my prayer." But when a woman who understands it is God's will for her to be covered refuses to do so, that is what she does when she prays. I was blessed by this study and felt lead to share!!!!!
I am also led to share that this practice is a misinterpretation of the scriptures. As the hostess mentioned the Bible clearly mentions that the long hair is the covering. So when you read the words that women ought to cover they mean to cover in long hair and for men to not be covered is to mean not covered in long hair. Therefore if the premise is a misinterpretation then one really isn't disregarding anything unless the woman wears their hair short and men long, then can one mention something about disregarding. So this ISN'T about a woman who "knowingly refuses to wear the veil" but one who knowingly refuses to keep their hair long.
One can make the argument that one is disobeying God if one is preaching a false doctrine of veils when it makes not mention of the word veil neither hat. One can argue that one is disregarding the many instances that refer to hair, (Long hair 2x shorn 2x and shaven 2x KJV) simply because they were trained to think that their interpretation is the correct one. Just something to consider. God bless.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter
This is a seven-hour video about head covering. Worth watching
ruclips.net/video/keXayp7JXf4/видео.htmlsi=H7QnDXzfbYtuMTkl
Thanks for sharing. Well said!
Imterestingly, Yeshua, a Nazarene.....had long, unshorn hair.... @@FA-God-s-Words-Matter
@@BeeBlot Really? And where pray tell is the evidence? I'm sure we would all like to read for ourselves where it says that Jesus had long hair.
Thank you for sharing suetta ❤
It is true that Paul says about keeping the traditions, but he is referring to the tradition of women keeping their hair long and men’s short. Therefore to “…hold to the traditions you were taught by us either by word or by letter. 2nd Thessalonians 2:15” applies to this not the MISINTERPRETATION of a veil. Pushing a misinterpretation upon others believing it to be true is an error and is in a sense working AGAINST the truth.
Therefore the verse that says “Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw yourselves from every brother who walks in rebellion and not after the tradition which they received from us.” applies to those who rebelliously try to influence others by claiming that God cares if a woman wears a hat because they have twisting the scriptures around to mean something that it does not.
I am so proud of you for speaking up! God will greatly honor you for helping other women be free from the fear of what others think, fear of man, stress, bondage, head covering etc.
God bless you sister!
Head covering is not bondage! It is a beautiful testimony to show the world what you believe. God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical.
But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible.
I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.”
I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11.
It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased.
You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief.
The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality.
Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil.
I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless.
“Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
It is so nice of you to leave this comment as it is something that most people do not take into account that this can become a burden on women. I have read that many women live in constant worry about being caught without a veil if they pray without one. Some have taken the drastic measure of sleeping with it on because they never know at what time it may occur that they needed to pray about something. This is clearly a stressful situation that not only hurts one internally/psychologically but also physically by having to endure pain or risk hair loss, etc. I only wish people would just read the Bible and not assume Paul is referring to a head covering like a veil when he is talking about long hair.
I guess two things stand out to me that I haven’t seen mentioned here… in the Bible times the women traditionally wore coverings. (The Sound Faith channel here on RUclips goes to great lengths to provide ancient proofs of head coverings). Also if your long hair is the covering, what does it cover and shouldn’t it always be worn down to prove the length and cover up something? Just my two cents. I wrestled with head covering because it’s not something I was brought up doing. About two years into it (I am now about 3-1/2), I asked my husband what he thought because I think women are fickle and can be swayed easily by emotions as the New Testament implies. Now, mind you, my husband has never told me to wear one. It was my decision; however he has always been supportive. When I asked he told me he felt there was something different and special about my spirit wearing one. Having been on both sides, I can attest wearing one holds you to a higher accountability. And I can also say that being consumed with appearance and wearing a head covering just don’t go together, but not wearing one leads to a state - at least it did for me - of being more occupied with my appearance and what people thought than being set apart for the Lord. I think it’s actually a very special thing to be able to stand out and be His peculiar people. Just my two cents. I will, however, also give my two cents that I do not think it is a salvation issue. Anyone relying on their own efforts and practices instead of the grace of Jesus Christ, to save them, is going to fail miserably. Only He can atone. And in the end, it is between you and God.
If we follow those who subscribe to the doctrine of women wearing veils, then it can be argued that the most often cited verse is 1st Corinth. 11:5, which states:
“But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.”
According to many of those who believe women ought to wear veils this verse supposedly implies that a woman’s uncovered head is a woman who does not wear a veil. Such a woman is either dishonoring God, their own physical head or her husband for failing to wear it which implies that they are in disobedience. Some have gone so far as to say it is a sin. Another assumption is that the woman being referred to already has long hair and since they conclude that the covering is a veil then it must be referring to an “additional” covering otherwise it would clash with verse 15 stating that God gave women long hair for a covering. Another conclusion is that women ought to be covered ONLY when praying and prophesying which would make it seem as though it were something that can be placed on or taken off like a veil. You’ve probably noticed by now it takes several assumptions to reach the conclusion that women ought to wear a foreign object on their heads, despite the lack of evidence.
* Does the Bible really give a clear command that women should wear a veil?
The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT say the word “veil “or any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the woman’s head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. The verses in question within 1st Corinthians 11 mention the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word “cover” is often unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is actually stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures.
Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions in order to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic?
If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc.
Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there aren’t really “two” conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument.
The reasoning behind why the “two-condition” argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples.
* Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions…
Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. For example, if the strongest argument is because there were conditions for women to wear veils because of verse 5 then why don’t we hear the same thing spoken of about men in verse 4?
“Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.”
Normally we do not hear the argument that men ought not to have their heads covered exclusively under two conditions as we hear for women as to why they should. I think it is because that would imply that they CAN have their heads covered under other circumstances like the examples I mentioned before as in speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. But I suspect a veil promoter would not go along with this. Then there is verse 7:
“For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.”
So, there seems to be ANOTHER reason for men not to cover. Therefore, if the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why even mention praying or prophesying in verse 4? Should a man not be covered under ANY condition since verse 7 overrides any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? Verses 4 and 5 are basically the same except for whom they are directed yet when one hears the arguments by veil promoters it is typically about how verse 5 is conditional for women yet for men in verse 4 it is usually not spoken of. Again, isn’t it more likely that Paul was using the words praying and prophesying as examples in both verses?
We can also get a sense that Paul was referring to praying and prophesying as examples if we read verse 13 when it only mentions the word praying and NOT prophesying.
“Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?”
If there were only two exclusive conditions, then why would he leave out prophesying? We can’t say he got tired in his writing as he mentioned both words in verses 4 and 5. So, what can we say about this? Just that Paul was giving us a couple of examples of how doing something HOLY or GODLY does not give a pleasant appearance if the woman is uncovered, meaning not covered in long hair and the same goes for men when their heads are covered in long hair since that is exactly one is supposed to understand when reading verse 14.
* So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? …..
If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. In that case, what we should be asking when mentioning the words “covered,” “cover,” “uncovered” and “covering” is: Are they referring to long or short hair or some kind of foreign object that goes on the head? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words.
“But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV
So if the covering is long hair, then the words “covered” or “cover” (which are synonymous with “covering”) should be understood as long hair as well. If that’s true, then to be “uncovered” would mean “short hair.” If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head “covered.” Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 that’s because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair.
@@FA-God-s-Words-MatterThank you for preaching with such exactitude that puts to rest this idea. After reading this I don't how anyone would think that Paul was referring to anything other than hair. It fits the mold and answers every question logically.
Hi! it's the first time that i see one of your videos. I wanna be able to explain the best that i can, so here i go... I've not growing up in church, but God show up when i was really bad in my life, then i started to go to church until the Holy spirit convicted me to cover myself, i went to church that sunday andit was awful... then i ended up not covering at all, i was really hurted by the church and i stopped going to church, but i still had my relationship with God (I'm doing quite a resume, there's more story, but anyway) i got married and my man saw everything when we were fiances, so he was not ok with me to cover bc it brought me sad. Anyway time to time i felt led to that exact scripture and over and over i understood better how this is something important but as you mentioned is not about salvation, so. I was looking some videos about how to cover and testimonies bc i like to know how other ppl live guided by the scripture and the Holy Spirit. To be honest i was a bit disappointed bc i only found the typical things ppl say, i quit seeing, but then i just could let it go, like i "should" or wanted to see just one more, then i saw your video and im really happy to come back to this plattform and "found" you. I still believe that i was convicted to cover, but now that i heard you i know it's not meant to be a prison, that's not supposted to be obligated or that we should judge others, quite the opposite (I knew this) but in certain way it's like a warning to not make it a "religion" so to speak. Today is the first day that i cover with conviction and i was having the same thoughts that you mention, what's gonna think my family or the ppl who see me (we live in Germany now and it's quite a thing right now expats and also muslims are the one who cover here and im not, so i don't want to make i false impresion and i was afraid of going out) bc it's new for me, but the Holy Spirit said when you are in my pressence like worship or praying, so i understand also thank to you that it's not meant to leave me in prison or ashamed or something, IDK if is something for ever for me but i take of your experience that we should be follow his instructions in his appointed times more than what we think, so that we can be able to cover when he wants and uncovered when he wants and just follow him thank you for sharing, it was helpful
Your testimony is beautiful and may God bless you for walking in what the Holy Spirit convicted you of, I believe not everyone will have the same conviction on this topic and that’s 100% ok. The important thing is that we are obedient to the Holy Spirit’s convictions🙏❤️
@@suettayoder4194 💕 agree
Bless you SueEtta for sharing!! I love your story! And meeting you personally only once I already felt so much connection! Its the Holy Spirit!!! ❤ Thank you for being obedient and for sharing even if its hard and people will come with nasty comments.
I really appreciate your spirit! The light of Jesus really does shine thru. One thing I wanted to point out is that the 2 places the English Bible uses "covering" is 2 different Greek words. So in the English it sounds like they are referring to the same thing, but it is actually 2 different words, one being a material veil, and the other, simply a natural covering Paul uses as an example from nature. So I just wanted to point out that those are actually not the same word "covering".
Look at the difference between Jesus and John Baptist, or Samson and David. I often pointed this out to the parents of the Bible college boys who judged the blue collar boys. God gives us all different roles. We must be careful what we say the Holy Spirit does, we must also be careful not to say what he leads someone else to do or not do. I am still studying, as we all should be, but I'm convinced Christian unity is more important than the covering.
It’s sad to see the negative comments and judgments against our sister SuEtta on a disputable matter.
Personally I looked into this and prayed about it a few years ago, but in the end did not believe God was calling me to cover my head. My husband also did not believe it was necessary. My reasoning was that I was always in the presence of God and often praying, so I would need to wear one at all times, even in the shower, if I was going to wear one for that reason.
At a time when I was going through a season of repentance and seeking God’s will for my life, I asked Him what I should be wearing. I was willing to wear a long skirt and a head covering if that was what He wanted. Instead He led me to get rid of all my black clothes.
It seems that this is a test of our love for one another. Are we willing to fellowship with and love our brothers and sisters who have different convictions on disputable matters, or are we going to judge and divide from each other?
I never comment on videos, but this time I have to. Im deeply burdened by this testimony! I will pray that God would work in your life. The Bible and the Holy Spirit are always aligned and never contradict each other. No you don't have to live the Mennonite lifestyle to be a Christian, but Biblical principles will always remain the same.
With all due respect you are unnecessarily burdened by her testimony. You are right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. But head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to prove as a veil or a cloth in the Bible, at least not in the King James version. Paul never mentions that the covering to be a cloth or a hat. He just uses adverbs that a woman ought to be covered like a man should not be covered. He doesn't use a noun like some people assume. But when you allow for the Holy Spirit to show you that the rest of the context revolves around hair then there is no doubt that hair is the covering. The word hair is uses 3 times and the words shorn and shaven 4 times. With all these obvious clues what conclusion would you draw? But not once does he use the words cloth or veil or anything related. Therefore to be covered means to be covered in long hair and to be uncovered means the opposite in this case short hair.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Well said... Never ceases to amaze me to hear when one speaks of head covering as a "biblical principle." When there no evidence of such a thing. I think people will declare anything as true just to coerce others to follow their interpretation.
Well said.
I am also from a conservative background and remember when God started convicting me about my covering becoming a distraction of what the Holy Spirt wanted to do in my life… I have so much respect for you because I can FEEL the fear you are talking about…. I see Gods grace all over you! Keep following Him and trusting Him!! Lots of love from a sister wanting all God has for me… willing to go deeper even if it means everyone doesn’t understand… ❤✝️🙏💜😇
I completely agree with you. Also from a conservative background, and I still consider myself so but we’ve joined another church that believes the long hair is a covering for women. My problem with the head covering became when I’d pray throughout the day in my heart and thinking do I need a head covering for every single time I pray? Then I’d always need to wear it, but the Bible is clear about the long hair. It became such a burden to me, however my husband still wants me to wear it. So I wear it to church only, even though nobody else does 🤷♀️. It’s just probably something I need to seek deeper in the Lord.
For anyone who would like to understand head covering Bible study was done by Mike Winger available on RUclips. I watched it, he has women in ministry, women in the church and home Bible study available for those wanting to learn more. I have had similar experiences where I felt the guidance and burden on my heart to step out in faith, To follow the direction of the Holy Spirit, without fear.The traditions of men which we are sometimes taught, sometimes generationally are binding and if we are born again believers, we have the Holy Spirit within, we are to listen and obey. This is my first visit here and have not finished the video, But hope that others are encouraged to study the Bible and listen to the leading of the Holy Spirit personally for their life. The Lord desires a personal relationship with us, an open, clean heart, He’s the potter we, the clay. encouragement to YOU as HE loving molds your life in service to Him.
When I listened to your message I wasn't sure what to think.The head covering seems to be a hot topic for a lot of people, and they have strong opinons about it. I was raised wearing one but I do not keep up with the practice. I would feel more convicted to dress modest. One thing I am certain about is one day each one of us will answer to God not man, and I like to practice that today!! Lydia
If we follow those who subscribe to the doctrine of women wearing veils, then it can be argued that the most often cited verse is 1st Corinth. 11:5, which states:
“But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.”
According to many of those who believe women ought to wear veils this verse supposedly implies that a woman’s uncovered head is a woman who does not wear a veil. Such a woman is either dishonoring God, their own physical head or her husband for failing to wear it which implies that they are in disobedience. Some have gone so far as to say it is a sin. Another assumption is that the woman being referred to already has long hair and since they conclude that the covering is a veil then it must be referring to an “additional” covering otherwise it would clash with verse 15 stating that God gave women long hair for a covering. Another conclusion is that women ought to be covered ONLY when praying and prophesying which would make it seem as though it were something that can be placed on or taken off like a veil. You’ve probably noticed by now it takes several assumptions to reach the conclusion that women ought to wear a foreign object on their heads, despite the lack of evidence.
* Does the Bible really give a clear command that women should wear a veil?
The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT say the word “veil “or any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the woman’s head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. The verses in question within 1st Corinthians 11 mention the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word “cover” is often unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is actually stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures.
Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions in order to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic?
If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc.
Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there aren’t really “two” conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument.
The reasoning behind why the “two-condition” argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples.
* Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions…
Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. For example, if the strongest argument is because there were conditions for women to wear veils because of verse 5 then why don’t we hear the same thing spoken of about men in verse 4?
“Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.”
Normally we do not hear the argument that men ought not to have their heads covered exclusively under two conditions as we hear for women as to why they should. I think it is because that would imply that they CAN have their heads covered under other circumstances like the examples I mentioned before as in speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. But I suspect a veil promoter would not go along with this. Then there is verse 7:
“For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.”
So, there seems to be ANOTHER reason for men not to cover. Therefore, if the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why even mention praying or prophesying in verse 4? Should a man not be covered under ANY condition since verse 7 overrides any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? Verses 4 and 5 are basically the same except for whom they are directed yet when one hears the arguments by veil promoters it is typically about how verse 5 is conditional for women yet for men in verse 4 it is usually not spoken of. Again, isn’t it more likely that Paul was using the words praying and prophesying as examples in both verses?
We can also get a sense that Paul was referring to praying and prophesying as examples if we read verse 13 when it only mentions the word praying and NOT prophesying.
“Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?”
If there were only two exclusive conditions, then why would he leave out prophesying? We can’t say he got tired in his writing as he mentioned both words in verses 4 and 5. So, what can we say about this? Just that Paul was giving us a couple of examples of how doing something HOLY or GODLY does not give a pleasant appearance if the woman is uncovered, meaning not covered in long hair and the same goes for men when their heads are covered in long hair since that is exactly one is supposed to understand when reading verse 14.
* So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? …..
If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. In that case, what we should be asking when mentioning the words “covered,” “cover,” “uncovered” and “covering” is: Are they referring to long or short hair or some kind of foreign object that goes on the head? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words.
“But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV
So if the covering is long hair, then the words “covered” or “cover” (which are synonymous with “covering”) should be understood as long hair as well. If that’s true, then to be “uncovered” would mean “short hair.” If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head “covered.” Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 that’s because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter oh my! What a lengthy comment… God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical.
But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible.
I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.”
I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11.
It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased.
You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief.
The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality.
Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil.
I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless.
“Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
@@Sarah-fs6li I don’t doubt that you are generally following God. But you are being led astray from someone’s interpretation of head coverings. I think most Christians are following God to a certain extent, but millions are also following false doctrines. Do you think God is pleased that certain believers (preachers, pastors etc) are being paid to preach the gospel when it says if we freely received, we should freely give? Do you think God is pleased with the many denominations that exist when it is already understood that we are not to form groups and are supposed to be in the same judgment? (1st Corinthians 1) There is not enough time in the day to go through all the false doctrines people have accepted like churchianity, tithing, infant baptism, worldly music disguised as Christian, grave soaking, the embracing of ecumenism, and so forth. This topic is just one of hundreds that have been misinterpreted.
I feel for your plight and understand that you went though a lot. But being fair for a moment are there not many testimonies of women out there that do not mention a head covering? I know I have watched many videos and read many writings where women have turned themselves around through Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Ghost. I can honestly tell you that this is the first time someone included the doctrine of a head covering. So, if offering a testimony is something that is supposed to be deemed as a consideration then we cannot rule out those who have come to know Christ and never felt the call to wear something on their heads.
What matters here is whether there is undeniable evidence that Paul was referring to a veil or long hair based on the scriptures alone. Normally I focus on 1st Corinthians 11 which should be the bulk of the focus as this whole issue started from this passage, but there is evidence that head coverings were not the focus especially if you read the verses in 1st Tim 2:9 and 1 Peter 3:3. For if a covering were important then why would they care about the hair style unless everyone were able to see it? And most importantly the passages are referring on how women should adorn themselves, but they never once mention a veil or a cloth or any type of head covering. You would think that in these two completely separate epistles which the topic is on women and how they show be portrayed that they would to mention the thing that you are repeatedly refer to as important. But the FACT is that they don’t.
Now, I personally have no aversion to a veil or a hat. I think there is nothing wrong with it. But neither will I accept the idea that it is somehow biblical when it isn’t Like I say to everyone who I come across in this topic is. Prove it. Not by a testimony or history or any other way but by the Scriptures.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 2nd Tim 3:16-17
I very much appreciate this…I have experienced the same thing…Gods presence was very real to me at the moment that he convicted me about taking the covering off
That’s amazing!🙌 God bless you sister❤️
Why would Paul write all of this if it really "meant nothing"why would he tell us all of this if as women we all have hair?
It means something just not the way you imagine. It is evident that some women were cutting their hair short (uncovered) while performing something godly like prayer and prophesying. So Paul was saying that if women are going to do this don't cut your hair short or as he put it be uncovered. So the "we all have hair" idea doesn't apply as he wanted women to maintain the feminine look of having long hair.
@@defendingthegospel721 read my later comment- it explains more about the Greek and all of that. We are to have 2 coverings, the long hair covering and a physical covering. Also- let me challenge you. If Paul wants us to only cover our head when we are praying or prophesying- then are we only to have hair then? Are we meant to be bald or have short hair the rest of the time? No. But I do encourage you to read my later comment, I go into detail about the Biblical truths that Paul wrote about.
@@Sarah-fs6li Challenge accepted. There is someone who wrote a great deal on this subject and I was happy to have copied his comment specifically on your question.
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"Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions…
Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. If they were meant to be conditions then why would Paul say in verse 7…
“For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.”
If the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why assume Paul was saying that there were only TWO conditions in verse 4? Wouldn’t 7 override any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? But let’s continue.
Verses 8 and 9 give us another understanding that Paul must have been referring to praying and prophesying as examples because he adds the order of creation into the mix.
“For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. Neither was the man CREATED for the woman; but the woman for the man.”
If Paul states that the creation order has something to do with the reason as to why women ought to cover (in long hair) and men to be uncovered (aka have short hair) then we can conclude that this doctrine must be bound in NATURE. That is to say that it must have taken place since the creation of Adam and Eve and BEFORE the manufacturing of veils or hats, and BEFORE the creation of churches, which is another reason why hair easily fits the mold.
This is confirmed when reading verses 13 and 14 when Paul asks you to make an observational judgment that if it is comely (aka pleasant looking) for a woman to pray uncovered (in short hair) and that even NATURE teaches us that a man with long hair is shameful. Why would Paul ask you to think that something as unnatural as a woman without a hat would look off and then say something as natural as long hair would look off on a man? Paul was saying that not being covered in long hair especially while praying looks uncomely and in the same breath he continues and says men with long hair also looks naturally wrong."
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I encourage you to go back to reading your Bible preferably the KJ version as the newer versions are very corrupted.
So will your husband be Shaving is head? Because what you are saying is that now both of your heads are "covered" would be interested in hearing what his thoughts are on this?
It says a man is not to have long hair, there's the difference
Jesus often uses a physical analogy when also addressing the spiritual side. As much as it is to my knowledge. He is talking about the spiritual head ship. A woman can fall out of the spiritual headship whether she physically covers her head or not. Women dishonors her spiritual headship when she disrespects her husband. She dishonors her head when she doesn’t obey God. I have seen women cover and not cover that dishonors God or there husband because we are not perfect. What about your husband does he never cover his head? It’s seems to be a double standard. If we view it as a spiritual headship/covering when a man does no walk in leadership of his home he dishonors his head. I hope this helps your question and I would love to know your thoughts on why men are okay to cover just not for praying but women are to wear it all the time for praying? If we are to pray without ceasing why is it women are to cover full time but men are aloud to cover sometimes? Shouldn’t be that men are not to cover at all?
@@elle_noltI love your comments! They resonate with me very much and thank you for allowing Holy Spirit to speak through you!
I have noticed that most head covering promoters misinterpret the beliefs of those who believe that long hair is the covering. In their efforts to show that it doesn’t make sense they will state something like:
“If hair were the covering, then men should be shaved bald (aka uncovered) every time they pray.”
You’d be surprised at how many times I’ve read this in the comments section of various RUclips videos.
There are several errors here, the first being that no one is saying that to be uncovered means to be shaved. If a woman is to be covered in long hair and a man is NOT to be covered in long hair, then we are not talking about baldness or being shaved it just means that a man should not have long hair or another way to say the same thing is that he should have SHORT hair. So that is mistake number one.
Mistake number two is that what Paul was preaching had to do with some action that requires something to be taken off (or put on). Although it is true that Paul was saying that men ought to be uncovered when praying or prophesying but he wasn’t being exclusive he was just giving a couple of examples. The idea is that a believing man should not have long hair (meaning he should be uncovered) while doing anything holy or godly LIKE praying or prophesying.
What? Do you think Paul saying it was ok to be “covered” while preaching, talking in tongues, interpreting tongues, casting out devils, singing to the Lord, worshipping to the Lord, dancing to the Lord, etc. as long as it was not those two exclusive moments?
Evidence that he must have been referring to hair is also based on his mentioning of the order of creation between men and women in verses 8 and 9. If Paul is making the effort to include this as a reason why women should be covered, and men uncovered then it must be BEFORE the manufacturing of veils or hats. It also must be BEFORE any idea of church. Therefore, what else could Paul be talking about if not hair way back in the beginning? It had to have been something that existed since then and had to have been natural like hair.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Always love your comments. Very biblically based thanks for preaching the truth I only wish more here would stick to scripture than following this misinterpretation like JW or LDS people do. Thanks :)
Hi. I dont normally comment but this really bothers me. I listened to your testimony and it really impressed me but then in the next few days when id watch your instagram posts something just didnt add up and i wondered if you were/ are really following what God was speaking... and then this video scared me too.... and i dont mean this rude in anyway but it does send off alarms with me....
Being a Mennonite myself here I really respect her testimony!
I’ve learned that even if convictions look different in our eyes for each God follower, we might not understand everyone’s conviction, and that’s OK.
I really respect the ones that come on selfless, and share about their set Free journey🙌🏽
We never know what the Holy Spirit will be working in our life one day, so therefore, let’s be respectful😌😌
What is the purpose of this comment? If your intent is to correct in order to help then please do so and not leave this to mean anything. What didn't add up? Why not be forthright? Otherwise you should delete this comment.
This is a seven-hour video about head covering. Worth watching.
ruclips.net/video/keXayp7JXf4/видео.htmlsi=H7QnDXzfbYtuMTkl
ruclips.net/video/pez9U1vshAw/видео.html Better video
Pray and reflect about it
Bless you for sharing!! The Holy Spirit always comes with peace...the enemy with the complete opposite & with confusion. When you shared your experience the peace of God was shining through!! May each of us read the passage for ourselves and ask God to reveal what He wants for us, ourselves. And then realize His answers aren't the same for everyone. May God's blessings be upon you!!❤
The only thing that puzzles me is why do it in church? Why such a big show? If it were the holy spirit, why would he ask you to do it in such a fashion? And since the husband is the head of the house, why not ask him what he thinks before you did it? Just curious......
So true! I asked the same questions…
Perhaps to correct before all so that others may fear. It would seem a great thing to share to all. There is no reason to assume that this is something that requires privacy.
I had never considered or thought about why this passage was in the Bible before, until I read about the history of it and the reason why Paul put this in the Bible.
If you can, search for a booklet regarding headcoverings, written by Pastor Randy Starr. This booklet cleared up the reason why Paul was talking about this in the first place.
Congratulations sister
Did your husband shave his hair?? What do you do with the verse that says “if a man prays with his head covered , it dishonors his head”?? If you believe hair is a covering,, then he should shave his hair off!!!!
What does your comment have to do with believing in the Son of God and loving as Jesus loved? Man looks on the outward appearance,The Lord looks on the heart..and we ought to do the same.
Loretta, one time I saw you and your husband at Shigs in Pit. Your husband wasn’t very friendly. Also, how are you guys allowed to have Yoitube?
The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT say the word “veil “or any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the woman’s head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. The verses in question within 1st Corinthians 11 mention the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word “cover” is often unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is actually stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures.
Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions in order to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic?
If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc.
Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there aren’t really “two” conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument.
The reasoning behind why the “two-condition” argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples.
So when it comes to the men they should not be praying and prophesying or doing any other holy or godly thing with long hair (aka a covered head).
If a man loses his hair is that God's curse on him? 😐 We need to be more careful how we treat people than how we present ourselves through clothing and haircuts.
I Corinthians 11. I Thessalonians 5:17 "pray without ceasing" If we are to pray without ceasing, then would should wear a head covering. If we are called to witness or prophecy by the Spirit, then we should wear that head covering to be ready. Keep throwing out what is leaven (false doctrine), but do not throw out what is good. Observe the order and let that humble meek spirit be shown with a sign, so that we might find favor with angels (messengers of God, your brethren). If we can not obey Him in the very simplest of things, then how can we obey in the greater?
When one allows themselves to be consumed with one doctrine it sometimes moves them to take the development of this doctrine a step further. In this case, certain sects that adhere to head covering have made the ordinance that women ought to wear veils nearly 24 hours a day. The way this is justified is due to the amalgamation of verses such as 1st Thessalonians 5:17, which states we are to “pray without ceasing” and the verses in 1 Corinthians 11 that mention women “praying.”
For many in the head covering movement this mixture of verses draws more problems as it hurts the argument for those who adhere to wearing veils only under two conditions. Since the argument is that women are to wear a veil or hat for a couple of moments in time and/or only during what they interpret to mean “public” worship and not for practically 24 hours a day, every day for the rest of their lives.
It is evident that the “24-hour argument” has to reject the idea that it is only worn during public worship or any brief moment. Extremists will wear them night and day but yet there are practical questions that need to be answered regarding changing clothes, washing and sleeping. People who are not so extreme and have no problem taking it off during these moments have told me (in order to justify and rationalize wearing their veils throughout the day) is that to avoid constantly putting it on and taking it off they might as well leave it on. So it is more convenient to leave it on. The problem is that within certain sects that admit that they simply keep it on for convenience have strict rules with no option to take it off even if they are not praying. And if they are seen without it they might get a strict lecture. This type of reasoning is how man-made doctrines are formed.
I almost have no doubt that this must be causing some veil promoters to live in a very confusing bubble, especially those who use the two-condition argument and at the same time claim it out to be worn nearly all the time. For on the one hand, they argue that the covering is a veil that one puts on when praying or prophesying but on the other hand, it is required to be worn nearly all the time. So, it’s ok to preach that it is removable but in practice, they have their women BOUND to wear them and not take them off regardless of whether they are praying or prophesying. This is very inconsistent.
This one misinterpretation causes a snowball effect by creating an array of issues, which is not biblically supported.
Also, if a woman should cover her head with a hat or veil all the time because she should always be praying then this should also mean that a man should NEVER have his head covered because he should always be praying all the time as well.
But men wear all kinds of head coverings for various reasons on a day-to-day basis and it is not considered a sin. For example, during winter a bald man would wear a hat to insulate his head against the cold, and a man that works in construction would and should wear a helmet for safety purposes. If we were to accept that, unlike verses 4 and 5 explicitly state, 1st Corinthians 11 teaches women to ALWAYS wear head coverings, then we are also saying men should NOT wear a head covering at any time. The latter proposition is clearly not reasonable and thus makes of no effect this interpretation.
@@FA-God-s-Words-MatterYou spent a lot of time to put up vein words to explain why we should rebel against the simple command of the Word of God.The Bible is not complicated, it is very simple. Prophesying could happen at any moment. No, you shouldn't sleep with it. Two or three unclean spirits are the cause of this; Rebellion (not His way but my way), Vanity, or unfaithful heart towards not just God, but her husband. God is not that complicated. Your many words prove you are not repented. You lie to yourself and have not given up self all to God. Your youtube call name is a lie. You do not believe "God's Words Matter". Christ warned repent or perish. It is His way or the lake of fire. I don't tell people when first enter into Christ that they must wear one. They need to purge at their own rate and if they really want to obey Him, they will get to that scripture and it will convict them to obey. Ephesians 5:6-7 " 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them; 8 for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord;" Proverbs 10:19 "When there are many words, transgression is unavoidable,
But he who restrains his lips is wise." Titus 1:10 "For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision" If you are a true Christian Lady and not of this World, you will not deny any part of God, for the Word is God (John1:1). If you were a true Christian Lady, you would see the damage that has been done to the heart of Christianity, which is the family order. His order is perfect and His will not try to destroy, but to build. Proverbs 14:1 Be careful. Revelations 2:20-23. I don't care if they wear a cap or cowgirl hat while hiking or doing yard work and praying while working, or if they choose to wear it when they are praying at Church, but to set the good example of family order, they should wear it in town to show others to respect the family order that has been lost in this nation. Not only that, you don't know when you will sometimes be suddenly called to witness by the Spirit and yet you are ready. I have had a man come to me once and I was able to help him understand a few lies taught to him and where he could go to learn from men. How many countless children have suffered because if this disorder. We ladies, truly in Christ can fight also, side by side with Christian men against satans lies that have destroyed families. You used no scripture and are struggle with self still. Just let go and give all to Jesus Christ.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter I apologize. I assume that the many words was just another argument was another rebellious person, as I have dealt with many as Christ warned we would; although the subject has never been over prayer cloths but rather the order in the family itself. I warn my children of assuming yet I fell to the sin of assuming myself, through the experiences of witnessing, even on-line so-called Christian platforms. The rebellion is so consistent out there that I have gotten to anticipate ones comments to be arguments. I didn't read what you said. Sorry. I thought about it and went back and read what you said. Woman should not wear the pants in the family. Woman are not always at fault though, some men just don't want to take authority. What I said is true for a rebellious woman. And some women may need to hear those scriptures that it might bring about repentance in them. But I had thoughts to go on and read what you said and see I was wrong and jumped the gun on this one. I humbly ask your forgiveness and I already got it under the blood through prayer. Warfare is rough out there. I have already been aware of the dangers of adding to God's Word that produce false doctrine. I can see now that we see the same way on this subject. God Bless you and yours in Christ Way.
What I stated, referenced above, that does not apply to @FA-God-s-Words-Matter, but may need to be heard by some for that jezebel spirit and to learn from my mistake not to assume. Sometimes the Christian grows weary in battle against satans lies that we hear so often.
You spent a lot of time to put up vein words to explain why we should rebel against the simple command of the Word of God.The Bible is not complicated, it is very simple. Prophesying could happen at any moment. No, you shouldn't sleep with it. Two or three unclean spirits are the cause of this; Rebellion (not His way but my way), Vanity, or unfaithful heart towards not just God, but her husband. God is not that complicated. Your many words prove you are not repented. You lie to yourself and have not given up self all to God. Your youtube call name is a lie. You do not believe "God's Words Matter". Christ warned repent or perish. It is His way or the lake of fire. I don't tell people when first enter into Christ that they must wear one. They need to purge at their own growth rate in Christ Jesus with gentle encouragement at the right time and if they really want to obey Him, they will get to that scripture and it will convict them to obey. Ephesians 5:6-7 " 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them; 8 for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord;" Proverbs 10:19 "When there are many words, transgression is unavoidable, But he who restrains his lips is wise." Titus 1:10 "For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision" If you are a true Christian Lady and not of this World, you will not deny any part of God, for the Word is God (John1:1). If you were a true Christian Lady, you would see the damage that has been done to the heart of Christianity, which is the family order. His order is perfect and His will not try to destroy, but to build. Proverbs 14:1 Be careful. Revelations 2:20-23. I don't care if they wear a cap or cowgirl hat while hiking or doing yard work and praying while working, or if they choose to wear it when they are praying at Church, but to set the good example of family order, they should wear a covering to town to show others to respect the family order that has been lost in this nation. Not only that, you don't know when you will sometimes be suddenly called to witness by the Spirit and yet you are ready. I have had a man come to me once and I was able to help him understand a few lies taught to him and where he could go to learn from men. How many countless children have suffered because demonic disorder. We ladies, truly in Christ can fight also, side by side with Christian men against satans lies that have destroyed families. You used no scripture and are struggle with self still. Just let go and give all to Jesus Christ.
I agree with you. And I do not doubt that the Holy Spirit showed this to you.
Now, given that your hair IS your covering, then it’s a good idea to look at hair health. There are many oils (essential and otherwise) that nourish it and help overall health.
It’s also been shown that wearing very tight hairstyles causes damage to the roots that over time leads to hair loss. Maybe it’s not a big deal when you’re young, but it can become one when your hair changes after menopause.
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical.
But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible.
I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.”
I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11.
It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased.
You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief.
The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality.
Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil.
I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless.
“Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
In this e days. A lot of women who got saved were prostitutes. In those day, prostitutes saved off their hair to show they were available.
This is why Paul had to address that church. These womens hair had not yet grown back. And many of them were loud because of their past lifestyles.
Be blessed.
For all those who are saying Suetta was mislead in this and is in sin:
Are you spending more time on minutiae of laws your bishops or congregations are saying (pins vs. buttons; chrome on your cars or windshields on your buggies) than you are on whether you are listening to the Holy Spirit? Whether you are taking the temptation to be upset or to be envious or even simply to trust your good health or furnace? How much time are you spending on the Great Commission? Do you know what your spiritual gifts are? When is the last time you sacrificed something for a stranger, face to face? Can He use you to bring another person to Him if you don’t follow every little rule?
The time is short. If you’re spending more time on rules than living your life by trusting Him; if you think He will only speak to you when you read the Bible, you’re doing it wrong.
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical.
But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible.
I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.”
I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11.
It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased.
You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief.
The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality.
Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil.
I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless.
“Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
What a beautiful and powerful testimony!! Thank you for sharing!!
What a shame,, she tell holy Spirit tells her ,to take off her head coverings, holy Spirit talk against the Bible? , it's her imagination, she don't want to cover her hair that's why she make this story, many people comment here ,head covering is not important, then whats important, if the law is burden to woman ,they says it's not important, god only sees our heart, not our head coverings, if that's true then why God says that, is he mad?
@@tlmovieshorts6215 The point that the hostess is making that the Scriptures are in accordance to what the Holy Spirit told her. Did you not watch the whole video? She never mentioned that she is doing this because she simply did not want to wear it ONLY you are accusing her of that. Why would you make an unfounded accusation against the brethren? What religion are you from? She said she did it with tears so your conclusions sound very wrong and you make no support of your reason why someone should accept your interpretation that woman ought to wear something on their heads as opposed to hair being the covering. I would say it is a shame to read your accusatory comment and lack of basis.
Amen sister
So glad you think that way as there is a big push in the traditional catholic churches and to pressurise women do wear veils in church again.
Hallelujah!! So happy for your freedom in Christ! Good for you to get rid of that idol!
People can argue all they want to about it because verse 16 throws out the whole argument. No one pay attention to that verse. Absolutely has nothing to do with Salvation.
Amen
Is there biblical evidence that the wearing of a hat is God's instructions? No there isn’t;
Can a man wear a hat in prayer and prophecy so long as his hair is short according to the Scriptures? Yes of course.
Especially because the teaching is about how shameful it is for a man to cover his head with long hair especially if he is praying or prophesying. Both verse 4 and verse 14 are talking about the same topic which is hair.
i wear one when praying
I appreciate the journey you are on, keep digging deep, keep seeking truth! I’ve learned that the covering or uncovering of heads spoken about in 1 Corinthians 11 has so much to do with the culture in that day. Pagan women of that day “prayed” to their gods with their heads uncovered while pagan men of that day “prayed” with their heads covered. Obviously, the new Christian churches wanted nothing to to do with those pagan practices and chose to do just the opposite, as a symbolic way of saying, we are not pagans nor do we incorporate their practices. It also had to do with Greek traditions, which sometimes differed from Jewish traditions (Jewish men wearing a cap etc). I believe Paul was concreting the Godly order of headship and then he was exhorting those who held on to Jewish customs to not look down on those who held to Greek customs. And at the end of the day, either custom is up to the Believer as long as it is not contrary to Scripture or immoral. I have also discovered that harlots of that day did not cover their heads, another reason why the new Christian women wanted to set themselves apart. Obviously, those customs are no longer relevant to today’s culture. Also something to consider, the Mennonite covering looks nothing like the covering referred to in the Bible. It’s all about religious tradition, in my opinion. Seeking the heart of Christ, living a life set apart for Christ, is so so much more than following man-made traditions. God bless.
This is right on!! If you have a deep connection with the Most High there will be times when u feel unworthy or undone before him and you feel led to cover that is wonderful! Completely different from mennonite way of believing.
thank you for sharing. I just came across your channel. Just one suggestion, the music is very distracting, little loud and the repetitiveness is kind of distracting.
1. it Stops her from flirting with men.
A. Hair flips
B. when a woman lifts her hand it can be recognized as a HELLO to men and Nephilm.
C. when a woman lifts her hand towards her head it lifts the breast and she naturally turns in the direction of male.
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That’s ridiculous!
Might as well put on the tinfoil hat because this is crazy
This is so sad. And very scary how the evil spirit can work to deceive even in a church service.
Actually this is great that one is not being manipulated to believe in a misinterpreted doctrine. There is no evil spirit it is based on biblical facts.
We must be aware of following impressions.
I never watch your videos.. but this one caught my attention and felt led to warn you....
Please do not say the holy spirit convicted you to take off your head covering.... the holy spirit will never never do that... the Bible says what it says..God s word will forever stand.. God is not mocked...!!! I warn you to not fall in satans snares.. .. don't... be deceived...
Are you saying you are the Holy Spirit???
I believe the head covering, can be an idol to people
may you one day receive the Holy Spirit🫶🏼🥹
Maybe God led you to this video to show you a different perspective❤
@@elle_nolt Amen!
God can bring different people even through videos into our lives to speak to us!
Just a question…I’m open to hearing your thoughts. So if the hair is the woman’s covering then shouldn’t men go bald? That’s hair too n it covers. Idk still searching.
And what about the ppl with short hair??
When i started the journey of leaving that tradition Holy Spirit showed me wearing a covering or not won't get me to heaven and that it is a cultural thing. It was actually a pagan practice.
There are soo many arguments about the hair being the covering.. that whole concept doesn't make sense to me altho I do understand where ppl are coming from with that belief. And everyone is entitled to believe what they choose. Holy Spirit showed me Paul didn't condemn one over the other and Jesus's heart is that we love one another and the covering deal is not worth fighting about. If you feel like you want to because it's what u genuinely and humbly want to do, fine! But if somebody chooses not to its not our duty to judge because thats not the basis for salvation!
Having said this... you do what Holy Spirit is telling you.
This is a very extreme interpretation of what the hostess mentioned. Why would you conclude that men go bald if the woman's hair is the covering. I don't understand your logic. If the woman's LONG hair is her covering (verse 15) therefore when it says a woman's head ought to be covered it means to be covered in long hair.
That is the LOGIC being stated by the hostess of the video.
So if a man's head ought to be UNcovered wouldn't that logically just mean the opposite? That He should not be covered in long hair? Being a male I am not covered in long hair but neither am I bald as I have short hair. So I don't understand why you would make this conclusion of having NO hair at all?
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical.
But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible.
I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.”
I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11.
It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased.
You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief.
The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality.
Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil.
I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless.
“Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
Gods concern is a heart of obedience, not a garment. God does not expect anyone to wear a headcovering. That is like the Pharisees would do following rules of a group of men. You did hear the Holy Spirit freeing you from man made rules.
Well said Amen!
Great story. Thank you.
It’s sad to see so many still under that bondage. Do not let them sway you. God is good! And He is so faithful to us. He gives us clear instructions, if one feels different then by all means they should follow their own conviction. But a conviction is not a church rule 😌
Rebekah put a veil on as she went to meet Isaac…
That was the cultural norm at the time.
@@Allahaziah1 I respectfully disagree.
@@Allahaziah1 We can definitely agree on that!
So refreshing to hear this!! It was never Jesus's command to wear a certain manmade thing.. it was a manmade rule that divided the church years ago and it's still doing the same which is sad! You will recieve nasty comments and even loose friends but i pray the curses will not reach your life in the mighty name of Jesus!!💗 your peace and joy is so much greater then anything ppl will say or think! Praise the Most High!
What a shame,, she tell holy Spirit tells her ,to take off her head coverings, holy Spirit talk against the Bible? , it's her imagination, she don't want to cover her hair that's why she make this story, many people comment here ,head covering is not important, then whats important, if the law is burden to woman ,they says it's not important, god only sees our heart, not our head coverings, if that's true then why God says that, is he mad?
@@tlmovieshorts6215 The point that the hostess is making that the Scriptures are in accordance to what the Holy Spirit told her. Did you not watch the whole video? She never mentioned that she is doing this because she simply did not want to wear it ONLY you are accusing her of that. Why would you make an unfounded accusation against the brethren? What religion are you from? She said she did it with tears so your conclusions sound very wrong and you make no support of your reason why someone should accept your interpretation that woman ought to wear something on their heads as opposed to hair being the covering. I would say it is a shame to read your accusatory comment and lack of basis.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter because I am not brainless like you, you support her only because you also accept her teaching
If a long hair is covering, then why he write the whole chapter , do you think he is Brainless like you,
If a hair is covering, then why he tell shave it off,
She tells, holy Spirit tells her to take off the veil. she also speak brainless like you,
First of all I am not judging her,
How can holy Spirit tells against the Bible,
Only you kind of people use holy Spirit name to avoid laws, because you kind of people not ready to Obey, thats why you twist scripture
like your wish.
if you cant twist scriptures, then they say we are under grace so law is not important. i hope you are also in that gang
I am not. I just think you need to be careful. You don’t want to cause someone else to fell away from God. God called me to cover my head. Some people who don’t cover would see this and wonder. That is all I am saying. The Holy Spirit can convent in many ways. There is nothing wrong with sharing your experience just title it differently so you don’t cause others to fell.
I don't see any problem with the title. In fact it would have been even better if it said something of how the Bible also convicted her to not wear a veil. But that is ok it still is a good title. Your fear is unfounded. How does anything being said here cause anyone to "fall away"? If the purpose is to tell people the truth and expose something to be wrong then we should be grateful. God never told anyone (as a doctrine) to wear a veil. The words Paul uses in the bible specifically in the King James makes no reference to a head covering. Most people like to use that phrase which means a separate object that one wears but that is not how Paul phrases it. It is disingenuous to say this because it is a rephrasing of Paul's words that state that a woman ought to cover her head. Covering the head in this case is the adverb or action not the noun of a hat or veil. Based on the surrounding verses Paul mentions hair on various occasions. So then why are we hung up on a physical and separate item that is not described in the passage? Paul makes it clear that the covering is the woman;s long hair in verse 15. We should be grateful that there is a clarification of Paul's words instead of following a misinterpretation that for some it seems to be taken almost as serious as the salvation message by head covering extremists which we should never allow.
@@Allahaziah1 I am not twisting anything you are actually the one stifling the truth so that others may not hear. Why don't you prove your position instead of pointing fingers.
Since some feel today that covering was merely customary, and modern churches do not embrace it, what about women today who pray with a pixie hair style? According to scripture, if she does not apply ( a veil?) then she is dishonoring….. her husband? What if she is single with short hair??
Yes.No salvation issue.
I’ve heard this before,so beautiful ❤️❤️
Hey my name is Kaylee and I need prayer
Praying for you Kaylee.
What do you need prayer for?
That's amazing! I'm so happy for you! In the end we must remember that we should first and foremost follow the teachings of Christ (as Christ teaches us about obedience and about not being afraid of judgement or hatred or even persecution from others many times, but never teaches anything about headcovering). Indeed it is written in the bible that the teachings of Christ are for every person in the world until the end comes, but it is written in the bible that the teachings of the apostles (whom we love and respect) were meant for certain groups of people at a certain time in history (corinthians, etc). The letters didn't have our names on them.. they weren't meant specifically for us. I see it that if we act as if these letters were directly written to us, we are lying to ourselves, because that's simply not true. And I think we are also disrespecting the authors of these letters as well as the people they were actually meant for, if we read them with that kind of a careless attitude.
I’ve been wanting to watch this since you posted it, thank you for sharing!! Too many times we do things “because that’s how it’s always been” and don’t know why we are doing it. I’ve seen people who wear head coverings have pride in how perfect it looks, how it makes them more submissive…… Isn’t that sin?? Each must work out their own salvation!! Again, THANK YOU!!
Is there a biblical example of the holy spirit instructing a woman to go against God's instructions?
Can a man wear a hat in prayer and prophecy so long as his hair is short according to someone's standard?
I very much doubt the Holy Spirit convicted you of taking off your head covering. Maybe a spirit but not the Spirit of God !! You said you did not think it was a salvation issue,so why would have God convicted you? Be aware of the enemy is seeking whom he may decieve...😥
May you some day receive the Holy Spirit and then you’ll know what she’s talking about❤️
The word of God and the Holy Spirit line up and do not contradict each other.
You can make wearing a head covering an idol if you do it because you think you have, too. Or just because what will people think... the heart behind it makes a difference making an idol out of it is a sin.... saying all of this I do wear one but not because someone thinks I should... or because I'm afraid of what people will think if I don't...
@lauraschmucker2215 where do u get this belief? Are u saying the Holy Spirit only tells us things we can read in the Bible?
I think she means that the Holy Spirit will never tell us to do anything that goes against what is specifically commanded in the scripture.
For those saying “I doubt if the Holy Spirit will Blah blah “ are you the Holy Spirit ?also you must know if the Lord Jesus can heal on the Sabbath…then The Lord’s Spirit too will do anything to break and loose you from your from bonds if you let him “ I also find it interesting how we have been able to manipulate this scripture to be a gateway to Salvation.
God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical. He will only guide you in things that line up with His word. Anything that is not from God is a lie from satan. And, headcovering is Biblical. There is often a view that headcovering was only for the Corinthian church. Well, if we look closer, we see that paul was writing to "all who call upon the name of the Lord". Communion was also written to the Corinthian church. And do we say this was just a cultural thing? Absolutley not! I beleive that many people do not want to stand out, which is fair, but we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being seperate. No, it is not a salvation issue, but, as Christians we have been redeemed to do good works.. Good works do not save us, but we have been saved so we can do good works. I beleive that us women can be a powerful testimony to the world, especially concerning sexuality. The headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality. By doing this, we can show the world what we beleive! I am not meaning to be contetious, but I am being led by the holy spirit to share this with you. No one is convicted or not convicted of what God wants us to do. God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.We do not just get to choose what we will do. That's not how faith works. And, if you are saying that "well, Jesus never commanded us to do this..." then what of all the other things in the Bible we are meant to follow? Jesus Himself never wrote those words, but chose certain people to speak through. Also, I would like to say, for those who beleive hair is the covering: take another look at this verse. There are 2 different Greek words used when reffering to the hair covering, and the physical covering. This being said, women are meant to have long hair and a covering. I cannot deny that this is what the Lord Jesus Christ wants us as women to do. Blessings!
@Sarah-fs6li You are so right that God would never tell you to do something that is not Biblical.
But with all due respect head covering is not Biblical. It definitely says a woman ought to cover her head but you assume it is referring something that you will not be able to point out as a veil or a cloth in the Bible.
I agree that it was not a cultural thing and never said it was so I’m not sure what was the purpose of mentioning that. You also make a nice argument of how we are called to be in the world and not of it, therefore being separate, but it is not the topic here. You also mention that is isn’t a salvation issue again something I never mentioned. I agree women can give a good testimony but no where does it say that the “…headcovering is meant to show that you agree with God's standards for marriage and sexuality.”
I mean now really come on. You seem to be defining, on your own, what you think the meaning of the head covering is. This is a dangerous path you are taking. Because I know for a fact that your belief of marriage and sexuality cannot be confirmed in 1st Corinthians 11.
It doesn’t say anything about marriage or sexuality. Like the kids would say I double dare you to cite the exact verse that says this. I know it is not there so why would you create this idea? As Christians we cannot just make things up willy-nilly. I believe that the Spirit of God is telling me to tell you to refrain from saying things that are not there. God is not pleased.
You claim that “God's word is true, and steadfast. and we should follow His teachings.” But you are making up stories to justify your belief.
The fact that you have not yet quoted any single verse tells me that you just want people to accept your interpretation without looking at the exact scriptures that you claim justifies the idea of head coverings or marriage or sexuality.
Paul was saying a woman should be covered in long hair and men with short hair. There is no way of escaping this truth as he mentions hair about 7 times but not once about putting on a veil.
I know full well about the alleged two Greek words but none of them diminish the fact that Paul was talking about a head covering. Here I will add an excerpt from someone who made a study on that so you can see that these Greek words do not necessarily refer to a synthetic covering. God Bless.
“Those who promote a cloth veil as a covering try to use the fact that this word perbolaiou is different than the word katakalupto to prove that it is talking about a “second covering” - the long hair being the first, katakalupto, and the veil being the second, perbolaiou. But, katakalupto is not a noun, and does not mean what veil-promoters say it does. It shows a state of being, and is used as an adverb, say the scholars. Therefore, there are not two nouns - that is, two distinct coverings - being discussed. Rather, a state of being, or condition, is discussed: the man’s head is in a state or condition of being “not hanging-down, covered”, while the woman’s head is in a state of being “hanging-down, covered”. Her hair is given her for a “throw-around”. In other words, the hanging-down hair serves as a throw-around for her head - she is covered, and meets the condition first put forth: that she pray or prophesy with her long hair hanging down on her head. Since it is a shame for a man to have long hair, he is to pray to God with his head “not hanging-down, covered” -- ouk katakaluptesthai.” (Written by Bernie Parsons)
So if a woman has short hair she is dishonoring her husband?
I would have disagreed from the title of the video that your conviction was wrong or that the holy Spirit didn't speak to you,but on a second thought,i felt like listening to the end,so i did,
What I've picked from your story is that you were never really convinced about head covering,you just did it out of compulsion, like they do it in my church,if I don't do it, what will people say,will i loose this or that???
So you did cover your head not because you accepted it, and even though you did it,you weren't happy or comfortable with it,
Now my point,the Lord will not have you serve Him by compulsion, like you're being forced to do something for Him
So for what i understand from your story,the holy Spirit may have been the one telling you to uncover,but I tell you the truth, He's not done with you yet?He wants to take you through a process,where you'll serve and love His laws, and when He's done, He'll still bring you back to headcovering,buy this time, you'll do it willingly, more grace to go through that process...love you
You claim that what you “picked” from her story is that she was never really convinced about head covering, and that she just did it out of compulsion…” yet she doesn’t phrase it that way but you seem to want to read it that way. Also you seem to ignore the fact that she was not thinking about head covering at the time when the Holy Spirit apparently told her to take it off. So it never seemed like it was something on her mind. Also, and most importantly, you seem to ignore the fact that she starts to read scripture that leads us to understand that the covering is long hair.
The fact of the matter is that you do not like the idea that God is not telling women to cover their heads with some sort of hat. Perhaps you have been so indoctrinated that you cannot fathom the idea that Paul was referring to long hair when he refers to a woman being covered. So much so that you have rejected all the signs that Paul was talking about hair when he mentions it directly 3 times and indirectly with the words shorn and shaven 4 times. Not to mention ignoring the fact that he never mentions a hat or veil or cloth or fabric just that a woman ought to cover and a man ought to uncover which are verbs not nouns. That is likely why you are trying to convince her of your compulsion theory.
The idea of head covering is a misinterpretation of the scriptures and you need to recognize that the passage in question if read in the KJ bible will not mention the idea of hats or veils. God wants you to be free from someone’s misinterpretation of the Scriptures just like any other person who thought what they were told was true like the LDS or JWs. God is working on you right now to come out of this idea so you can understand the Scriptures as he wants you to understand. May God help you and yours.
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So it literally says women are to cover when praying or prophesying,,,,,,,so if paul is talking about the hair being the covering then why did he specify to for sure cover when praying n prophesying cause we have our hair on our head all the time🤷♀️
So now it actually does make perfectly sense that it has to b something we are to put on our head wen we are praying or prophesying .....
Which would have to b a cloth .....cause i'm sure we aren't going to take our hair off and then put it on wen we pray or prophesying......
* Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions…
Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. If they were meant to be conditions then why would Paul say in verse 7…
“For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.”
If the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why assume Paul was saying that there were only TWO conditions in verse 4? Wouldn’t 7 override any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? But let’s continue.
Verses 8 and 9 give us another understanding that Paul must have been referring to praying and prophesying as examples because he adds the order of creation into the mix.
“For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. Neither was the man CREATED for the woman; but the woman for the man.”
If Paul states that the creation order has something to do with the reason as to why women ought to cover (in long hair) and men to be uncovered (aka have short hair) then we can conclude that this doctrine must be bound in NATURE. That is to say that it must have taken place since the creation of Adam and Eve and BEFORE the manufacturing of veils or hats, and BEFORE the creation of churches, which is another reason why hair easily fits the mold.
This is confirmed when reading verses 13 and 14 when Paul asks you to make an observational judgment that if it is comely (aka pleasant looking) for a woman to pray uncovered (in short hair) and that even NATURE teaches us that a man with long hair is shameful. Why would Paul ask you to think that something as unnatural as a woman without a hat would look off and then say something as natural as long hair would look off on a man? Paul was saying that not being covered in long hair especially while praying looks uncomely and in the same breath he continues and says men with long hair also looks naturally wrong.
* So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? …..
If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. Now some have tried to argue that the covering is somehow Jesus or men (some erroneously add husband here as well). But since the passage in 1st Corinthians 11 already states that the man or Jesus are already referred to as the heads one should not mix things up and add that they are the covering especially when this word is referring to something else entirely, Plus it wouldn’t make sense if we were to replace the word covering, covered or uncovered with Jesus, man or husband.
So, do the words “covered,” “cover,” “uncovered” and “covering” refer to long and/or short hair or some kind of foreign head covering? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words.
“But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV
So if the covering is long hair, then the words “covered” or “cover” (which are synonymous with “covering”) should be understood as long hair as well. If that’s true, then to be “uncovered” would mean “short hair.” If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head “covered.” Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 that’s because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair.
* You Should Naturally Know Right from Wrong by Just Looking….
If these verses do not move you yet then here’s one that should definitely blow your mind. Paul asks you to make a judgment call in verse 13 as if one should naturally see a problem because he asks you to:
"Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?"
Paul is asking us to make a judgment. Based on what? The only option is based on observation. Therefore, if to be “uncovered” should mean to be without a veil, then one would have to explain in detail why a FABRIC VEIL should pop up in the average person’s mind when observing a woman praying. Why would you or I look at someone and think that a veil (or any other foreign object) is missing? Why should the lack of a veil make a praying woman not have a “pleasing appearance” (aka look comely)? Someone needs to explain this logically. This is important so please don’t dismiss it.
Be honest with yourself do YOU really believe that the average person will look at an unveiled, praying woman and naturally think a VEIL or HAT is missing or would make her look unpleasing? Are we to assume that Paul expected the average person to have instilled within them the idea that a foreign object is missing from a woman? I have never seen or heard anyone say something like: "What a shame she is not wearing a veil on her head?” after looking at a long-haired, praying woman. To do so would be ludicrous. One would have to be literally BRAINWASHED to think that the average person would EVER think that a SEPARATE… UNNATURAL… OBJECT such as a veil would be missing on a praying woman’s head. There is no NATURAL or NORMAL reason to make such a judgment.
But if the word “UNCOVERED” were to mean "SHORT HAIR." then it would make LOGICAL sense. For if I were to observe a woman who has a short haircut doing these holy things as we read in verse 5, then I can naturally judge (by sight) that something doesn’t look right that there is an unpleasing appearance. I think I can say with some assurance that many of us have done double takes when looking at a short-haired woman from behind especially if we are not sure if the person was male or female, which is a NATURAL reaction.
The very next verse continues this line of thinking that things should be obvious to understand by mere observation when Paul says…
"Doth not even NATURE itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him." 1st Corinthians 11:14
Note that verses 13 and 14 are two consecutive questions both of which ask you to NATURALLY or NORMALLY ASSUME or JUDGE that there is something wrong: whether it be OBSERVING a woman’s uncovered head (a.k.a. short hair) while praying or OBSERVING a man having long hair.
In addition, by using the word “NATURE” one can’t even use the excuse that perhaps they were expecting only Christians to see something different. Clearly, if “nature” teaches us that something looks off then it must include all of mankind as nature teaches all of us both Christian and non-Christian.
I would like to also add that these verses are NOT jumping from the discussion of a “veil” in verse 13 and then suddenly to “hair” in verse 14 like some would like to argue because you will note that verse 15 refers again to the woman which FLAT-OUT STATES the “covering” is to mean “long hair.” Therefore, there is NO EXCUSE to not understand the previous verses are referring to hair length. By this, we can understand verse 4 which states that it is shameful or dishonoring for a man to pray or prophesy with his head covered as I previously mentioned.
I should note that verse 4 in NO WAY implies that the covering on the man can be placed on or taken off, like some like to argue, due to the false interpretation that the verse is exclusive to two conditions instead of seeing them as two examples. As mentioned before this verse simply states that it is dishonoring if a man does something holy or godly like praying or prophesying while covered in LONG HAIR.
I decided it was more spiritual to cover my head at Mass.
I decided it was better for my soul to stop going to a mass where there are idols, men who allow others to call them father, the fable of purgatory, Mary veneration, works for salvation and so much more
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Why would anyone want to go to a RC mass filled with so much idolatry and false teachings?
If you can’t say it’s right or wrong, then don’t teach it. Women shouldn’t teach publicly as well.
God bless you and please ignore the negative comments. You do what you feel is right for you.
I disagree with your conviction. The Holy Spirit wouldn't tell you to do something that the Bible tells you to do. If you have your head uncovered then your husband should have his head shaven. Remember there are 2 voices out there, Satan's voice can sound just as good as the Holy Spirit. If we hear a voice we need to check with God's word and she if it matches up with the Bible
I disagree with your comment. The Bible doesn't tell anyone to wear a hat or a veil. People who think that are misinterpreting God's words. I have come to realize it is mainly because people are reading bad translations that include the words: authority...wife...husband...symbol...veil...assembly. All of which you wont find in 1st Corinthians 11 of the King James Bible. That is why you say such things like "If you have your head uncovered then your husband should have his head shaven" You would not come to this conclusion had you been reading the KJV. Paul was referring to hair when talking about coverings, Not once does he say cloth or fabric or veil yet he uses words in relation to hair 7 times. Satan has been fooling people for years with bad translations don't be one of them. Read for yourself and see the differences. Many modern bibles leave out many verses or have words that should not have been included. Stick to the KJV and you will note how off people have been on this and many other doctrines.
@defendingthegospel721 I do have the KJV. it must be that you are using a different Bible. Have you ever heard of the Headship order?? First, I wear my veil because God instructed us to wear one, and also, God is first, then my husband then me under him, and I want to honor God and my husband. I am a happy woman who covers her head with a veil because that is what God tells us what to do
@@marymiller4744 If you do have the KJV then why are you mentioning mentioning your husband? I already stated that the KJV of this particular passage does not mention the word husband or wife. Yet you are including him in this conversation. The headship order refers to ALL men and all women.
But I would have you know, that the head of EVERY MAN is Christ; and the head of the woman is the MAN; and the head of Christ is God. (EVERY MAN NOT EVERY HUSBAND)
So instead of following what is written it seems that you are following someone's interpretation. You claim that God instructed women to wear one but there is no evidence of that. Paul says certainly that a woman ought to cover her head but the question is with what. The assumption is with a veil or hat, but that is not mentioned in the Bible what IS mentioned is the fact that Paul said that the long hair was given to the woman for a covering. So AGAIN you are not following what is written but someone's interpretation. One honors God by simply following him not whether or not you walk around with a hat on your head. The covering is long hair therefore as long as you are not walking around with a manly haircut you are ok. I know of many women who live Godly and blessed lives without a hat on their heads but are obedient in that they keep their hair long. If you choose to wear a hat then that is ok but we should not make it seem like there was some obscure doctrine that one must manipulate and rephrase in order to follow. God bless.
@defendingthegospel721 I am not following someone's interpretation. I am following God!!! So can you explain to me why the women wore a head covering back when Jesus was still on earth?? If it's not important then He would have told them that they don't have to wear one. You sound like someone that doesn't wear a covering and you don't want anyone else to wear one as well. So sad!! May God Bless You
@@marymiller4744 With all due respect I would like to interject here in that it IS someone's interpretation. You said to defendingthegospel721 that you are following God but haven't offered a decent BIBLICAL reason as to why you mentioned the word "husband" or the word "veil" when neither is mentioned in 1st Corinthians 11 in the KJV. You asked if he could explain why the women wore a head covering back when Jesus was still on earth? I have to ask... what women are you talking about? Could you direct me to the verse(s) that says that women wore head coverings during Jesus's time and that they wore it for religious reasons and not for practical reasons?
In any event I would like to read where it says this at all. I hope you are not going by movies or drawings.
If it were important Jesus or Paul would have said something very specific about this but they didn't, the issue that Paul was relaying is that men should keep their hair short and women's long and offers the reasons why.
Then you stated that he sounded like someone...who doesn't want anyone else to wear a veil when he specifically stated that "If you choose to wear a hat then that is ok" So why are you claiming that he is saying something different? I think you are allowing your emotions to get the better of you because his words do not reflect your interpretation.
Laying aside traditions of the mennonites is difficult since you meet so much criticism. Trust the process girl. I was convicted to take mine off because it had become a to much of a focus point to me. Later I sensed the Lord propmting me to read that scripture again. The true meaning came forth. Now i cover with a head band in church, work and hen I go into a group where covering is a Salvation issue. Otherwise I dont regularly.
Covering around people who feel covering is important. Otherwise you don’t??? Do you hear yourself?🥹 fear of man keeps so many people from living the life they’re called to live. Get rid of it!!🤯
@@bsmvideos941 from a distance it may appear like the fear of man. But respect is a command as well. A godly woman encouraged me to look at the group you will be with and dress accordingly out of respect. Especially if you are relating to strict mennonites one day and inner city kids the next.
I dress so that my dress isn't the conversation piece but the Love of Christ flowing forth.
I get lots of hate regardless since my covering isn't sufficient in their eyes but for me it is.
@@bsmvideos941 and no I don't claim to have it all figured out.
What a shame,, she tell holy Spirit tells her ,to take off her head coverings, holy Spirit talk against the Bible? , it's her imagination, she don't want to cover her hair that's why she make this story, many people comment here ,head covering is not important, then whats important, if the law is burden to woman ,they says it's not important, god only sees our heart, not our head coverings, if that's true then why God says that, is he mad?
@@tlmovieshorts6215 The point that the hostess is making that the Scriptures are in accordance to what the Holy Spirit told her. Did you not watch the whole video? She never mentioned that she is doing this because she simply did not want to wear it ONLY you are accusing her of that. Why would you make an unfounded accusation against the brethren? What religion are you from? She said she did it with tears so your conclusions sound very wrong and you make no support of your reason why someone should accept your interpretation that woman ought to wear something on their heads as opposed to hair being the covering. I would say it is a shame to read your accusatory comment and lack of basis.
why would the spirit say otherwise then God, it does not make sense, why would the spirit change then God's word will not shage, woman say the long hair is a covering, but soon they star cutting them and it get shorter and shorter every time, ifir me i don't believe God would make our life easier when we don't use it anymore he is the one who wants us to use it specially when we pray
I would like to add my two cents here after reading this discussion. First of all I believe we should follow the teaching in 1st Corinthians 11. The main problem here is the misunderstanding of 1st Corinthians 11 altogether. I also have made an intense study of this passage, and the obvious conclusion is that Paul was referring to long hair being the covering.
The first thing one should take notice is the lack of wording required to conclude that a veil is being referred to here. The word veil or cloth is not in the text if we read from the King James version. If you read from the “modern” versions then you might get that view but not from the Textus Receptus.
I would like for you to reread the verses that allegedly refer to a veil which is 4-7 and 13. In those verses we read the words, cover, uncovered and not covered. According to scholars these are used as adverbs. Like if you were to say I am going to cover my feet. No one should be thinking of a veil just the action of being covered. What is missing in these verses are nouns that would prove the idea of veils. Since we should not be assuming anything we should be asking the question what is the thing that a woman should be covered WITH based on the passage ALONE? So if you do the math you would find that Paul refers to hair directly 3 times and then indirectly 4 times with the words shorn and shaven. So if there is no noun for the word veil or cloth yet there are 7 instances of idea of hair, then what are we to conclude? That Paul is referring to hair whether it be short or long.
But the counterargument would be that Paul is allegedly telling women to put something on. But that is not exactly true it says a woman should be covered, but he is referring to long hair based on the surrounding verses. But what about that a woman ought to be covered when praying or prophesying? The assumption is a that Paul was referring to only two instances which is not true he was merely giving us two examples. This also applies to men about being uncovered. Evidence of this is written in the forgoing verses. Paul writes that men ought not to cover because he is the image and glory of God. And then Paul goes into how woman was made for man and is the glory of the man. So it would seem that man shouldn’t be covered at any time if he is the glory and image of God. Paul also mentions that the mere observation of a praying woman should make us note how uncomely (unappealing in appearance) for a woman to be uncovered. Paul states this in a way that it should be obvious to anyone that she looks off in verse 13. He does this again in verse 14 about how shameful it looks if a man has long hair. He says it this way…
Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? KJV
So this judgement that we should make is exclusively based on observation of an “uncovered” woman as well as a long haired man. Two consecutive questions both appealing to something innate or within us. Paul is in essence saying that it should be obvious to see that something is wrong or off.
So how is it that for the women we are somehow to know within us that a woman would be unappealing in appearance without a manufactured veil? That does not seem logical especially since the word veil is never mentioned. Unless that is not what Paul is meaning but rather that if the woman was not covered in long hair (meaning her hair is short) doing something holy or godly LIKE praying or prophesying. I think most people can relate that looking at a woman with short hair does have an unappealing appearance. It naturally provokes head turns. And if there was any question Paul flat out states what he was talking about in verse 15.
So the facts are that there no nouns to use as evidence of a veil. There is evidence that Paul was using praying and prophesying as examples. Paul appeals to nature and something innate within us to judge that being uncovered or covered (meaning having short hair or long hair) should be obvious to all. So this cannot make sense with a manufactured veil.
I for sure don’t agree that the Holy Spirit asked you to do that, that definitely was not the Holy Spirit , he would never ask you to do something like that ,that you grew up with knowing that the Bible clearly says you need to have your hair covered. They’re are various other scriptures that go along with this for instance the head covering is a sign of headship order God over man man over woman also the translation for head covering in Greek was “cloth covering “ for instance when Mordecai was dealing with Haman it says he covered his head I doubt he grew long hair all of the sudden. I feel like we where given so much and so much teaching it was all given to our younger generation and we jus take it all for granted and throw away things we’ve been taught based on something that we feel. All our lives were taught to honor God by covering our heads it’s submission it’s honor and I don’t think he’d tell you to take it off during a worship service. Many prayers for you
Well I can agree that the Holy Spirit asked her to do that. Your belief that it wasn’t is because you are under the belief that the Bible says that one needs to have their hair covered. The Bible NEVER says the words “HAIR COVERED.” It says that the HEAD not hair must be covered. By sneaking this word in you give the false impression that Paul was asking to cover hair which works in YOUR favor as it THEN makes sense to believe in a hat to cover hair. But since it REALLY doesn’t say that then one can make a logical argument that one should cover their HEAD with HAIR.
The Bible NEVER says that the head covering is a sign of headship order. IF covering meant long hair as verse 15 clearly states then you are wrong to say that a hat or veil is a sign of headship order.
The translation for head covering in Greek is NOT “cloth covering “ Your example of Mordecai when dealing with Haman when it says he covered his head that you doubt he grew long hair all of the sudden is somewhat deceptive. Because you are using one instance of the word covered (in the Old Testament) that works well into your theory. Plus the Hebrew word for covering does not include the word cloth.
But what if we were to find OTHER verses that use the word covered or covering? Also let’s find them in the SAME Greek translation which is where this whole thing started from (meaning in the NEW testament and in 1st Corinthians 11) as opposed to using the OT in Hebrew to avoid Hebrew and Greek translation conflicts.
If we were to do a search for the word “covering” in the NT and in the KJV we will find only ONE time it is used and it is the verse that already DEFINES what the covering is.
But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. 1st Cor 11:15
So let’s keep looking, let’s look for the word cover or covered since that is the word you chose to focus on regarding Haman.
“…But Haman hasted to his house mourning, and having his head COVERED.” Esther 6:12b
Matthew 8:24 says that the ship was covered with the waves.
Matthew 10:26 say for there is nothing covered that shall not be revealed
Luke 8:16 say No man when he lighteth a candle covereth it with a vessel.
There are many more but the point is not every word that uses the word cover in one way or another MUST mean a cloth veil.
I also lament that even though we have the Word of God with us today people still misinterpret the Bible. Sometimes it’s because that is the way THEIR church wishes to interpret the scriptures. That is why we have so many conflicting churches with opposing doctrines that claim that they have the truth when in reality they don’t. People normally don’t do the research like I am offering you right know that show that one CAN be wrong. Maybe you might have the right intentions or are sincere but that does not mean that one cannot be sincerely wrong.
God never taught for women to cover their heads that is a misinterpretation just like the many churches who were wrong about infant baptism, works for salvation, the belief in making Popes etc and that for CENTURIES. This ONE little doctrine is NO different.
This is not about feelings but the actual word of God and what it says. It never mentions the words “worship service” yet people somehow have interpreted two words (praying and prophesying” to mean that and have muddle Paul’s true meaning simply that women ought to cover their heads with LONG hair and men’s with short hair especially if they do something LIKE praying or prophesying. May God open your eyes.
FA is right if you read the KJV does not mention covering hair it says covering the head. Perhaps you are reading from a corrupt modern version of the Bible that has tons of errors in it.
I find it interesting that you stated “Holy spirit would never tell you that!” Who are you again. God?
@@KathrynMcclymont-cm1ew Amen to that!
Be careful with your titles
What a shame,, she tell holy Spirit tells her ,to take off her head coverings, holy Spirit talk against the Bible? , it's her imagination, she don't want to cover her hair that's why she make this story, many people comment here ,head covering is not important, then whats important, if the law is burden to woman ,they says it's not important, god only sees our heart, not our head coverings, if that's true then why God says that, is he mad?
If we follow those who subscribe to the doctrine of women wearing veils, then it can be argued that the most often cited verse is 1st Corinth. 11:5, which states:
“But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.”
According to many of those who believe women ought to wear veils this verse supposedly implies that a woman’s uncovered head is a woman who does not wear a veil. Such a woman is either dishonoring God, their own physical head or her husband for failing to wear it which implies that they are in disobedience. Some have gone so far as to say it is a sin. Another assumption is that the woman being referred to already has long hair and since they conclude that the covering is a veil then it must be referring to an “additional” covering otherwise it would clash with verse 15 stating that God gave women long hair for a covering. Another conclusion is that women ought to be covered ONLY when praying and prophesying which would make it seem as though it were something that can be placed on or taken off like a veil. You’ve probably noticed by now it takes several assumptions to reach the conclusion that women ought to wear a foreign object on their heads, despite the lack of evidence.
* Does the Bible really give a clear command that women should wear a veil?
The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT say the word “veil “or any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the woman’s head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. The verses in question within 1st Corinthians 11 mention the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word “cover” is often unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is actually stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures.
Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions in order to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic?
If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc.
Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there aren’t really “two” conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument.
The reasoning behind why the “two-condition” argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples.
* Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions…
Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. For example, if the strongest argument is because there were conditions for women to wear veils because of verse 5 then why don’t we hear the same thing spoken of about men in verse 4?
“Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.”
Normally we do not hear the argument that men ought not to have their heads covered exclusively under two conditions as we hear for women as to why they should. I think it is because that would imply that they CAN have their heads covered under other circumstances like the examples I mentioned before as in speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. But I suspect a veil promoter would not go along with this. Then there is verse 7:
“For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.”
So, there seems to be ANOTHER reason for men not to cover. Therefore, if the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why even mention praying or prophesying in verse 4? Should a man not be covered under ANY condition since verse 7 overrides any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? Verses 4 and 5 are basically the same except for whom they are directed yet when one hears the arguments by veil promoters it is typically about how verse 5 is conditional for women yet for men in verse 4 it is usually not spoken of. Again, isn’t it more likely that Paul was using the words praying and prophesying as examples in both verses?
We can also get a sense that Paul was referring to praying and prophesying as examples if we read verse 13 when it only mentions the word praying and NOT prophesying.
“Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?”
If there were only two exclusive conditions, then why would he leave out prophesying? We can’t say he got tired in his writing as he mentioned both words in verses 4 and 5. So, what can we say about this? Just that Paul was giving us a couple of examples of how doing something HOLY or GODLY does not give a pleasant appearance if the woman is uncovered, meaning not covered in long hair and the same goes for men when their heads are covered in long hair since that is exactly one is supposed to understand when reading verse 14.
* So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? …..
If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. In that case, what we should be asking when mentioning the words “covered,” “cover,” “uncovered” and “covering” is: Are they referring to long or short hair or some kind of foreign object that goes on the head? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words.
“But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV
So if the covering is long hair, then the words “covered” or “cover” (which are synonymous with “covering”) should be understood as long hair as well. If that’s true, then to be “uncovered” would mean “short hair.” If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head “covered.” Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 that’s because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter
Madam do you want to justify why you are not wearing, it shows you can't compramise a simple thing
You don't want to wear veil thats why you wrote like this,
Madam if Paul not taking about veil then why he wrote this chapter , if long hair is her veil, then why he tell her to shave it off
Not wearing veil is not sin, but it shows you can't obey a simple thing. . it shows your disobedience
First read verse don't put your thoughts
You tell there is no word mentioned veil, because, that time people know how to cover their hair, with shawl are towel, scarf,
Yeah,He said long hair is covering, he talk about additional covering, thats why tell only cover your hair in prayer worship prophecy time
its still contineud in roman Catholic Churches,
there is no big sin or small sin. sin means disobedience,
adam and eve didn't do anything big like prostitution, rape, murder. they only eat fruit,
disobedience is matter,
disobedience is sin.
do you think eating fruit is bigg sin.
. that time woman cover their hair whole day, Paul said cover you hair, only in prayer time, simple thing
but this generation people, twist the commandments specialy the laws of woman,
they twist duetronamy law about wearing mens clothing, and head covering , and pastor work.
it shows they can't obey a simple thing, specifically in this feminist era.
@@tlmovieshorts6215 First I'm a Mister not a Madam. You said “if Paul is not talking about veils then why did he wrote this chapter?” Answer : Paul was referring to women to cover their heads with LONG hair and therefore the reason is for women to keep the tradition of long hair and men short.
You said “if long hair is her veil, then why he tell her to shave it off” Answer: Paul was saying that if she is NOT covered in long hair meaning that she had had short hair like a man then she should shave it ALL off.
You said “Not wearing veil is not sin, but it shows you can't obey a simple thing” It may not be a sin but neither was Paul talking about veils. Therefore, pushing a false belief is a sin which is what YOU are doing right now. Paul is not asking anyone to obey in wearing a veil so whether YOUR interpretation is “simple” or not doesn’t matter if it is FALSE from the very beginning.
You admit that Paul says that long hair is covering, and then you ADD that he is talking about an “additional” covering. That concept is not therefore you are adding to God’s words.
Paul was only giving a couple of examples not two conditions when referring to prayer and prophecy, plus there is no need to ADD or assume Paul was referring to worship time, when that word is not there. Especially given the facts that prayer is to be done in secret and prophesy can be both done in a group or on a one on one moment.
Then you really go down the rabbit hole by including the godless and pagan Roman Catholic Church. How can you even use them as an example given the many FALSE doctrines they preach? Are you Catholic? If so you need to leave this idol worshiping sect fast before it is too late.
Many proponents insist that women had been wearing a head covering for centuries and that only recently (within the 1900s) did women begin to reject the idea, usually because of an introduction of some evil like the feminist movement as though this somehow supports or gives credence to their false interpretation.
They never consider the fact that about that time more people were getting the word of God into their hands and as a result the possibility that they discovered that the old interpretations, held by many of these contradicting churches, were false. As an example, I recall when I was Catholic, I was shocked when I found the Bible to be contrary to Catholic dogmas. And they claim to have had the true word of God for centuries! It is logical to think that as more people read the Scriptures with their own eyes, they would naturally discover many false doctrines pushed by many sects and even within their own church. So, one cannot just assume that one specific movement or event caused many to reject this or any other doctrine.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter
Fist Bible never tell us to follow the tradition, Bible is gods word not traditional book,
If Paul want to follow the traditioln of veil, he can tell cover your hair hole day ,
I already tell you sir this chapter taking about additional covering,
Only in prayer time.
If long hair is covering, he I'll tell women to don't cut your hair, simple, but he didn't tell them only don't cut your hair, he also tell cover your hair.
If it's a traditional, he can tell, cover your hair day and night. But he didn't, Bible never teach us a traditional thing's.
It's also for duetronamy law sir
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Why mainly this generation Bible words are contradicts specifically in women laws.
Because disobeying women contradict these verses, not bible,bible is clear,
If i can't obey some law I'll tell god to give me a strength to obey, but I never twist lwas because of I can't obey
It says your hair is given for a covering, not as a covering. You read, “for a covering” then said “ as a covering”. That is where you are wrong. If a woman’s head is to be covered and the hair is the covering, then if the man is not to have his head covered and the hair is the covering, that means that all men must have their head shaven.
We have to be careful how we interpret the Bible, the Holy Spirit helps us to understand the Bible on a level we can’t understand it on our own. When I was baptized with the Holy Spirit and started walking with him I understood the Bible in a way I never had before because the Holy Spirit opened my spiritual eyes and I was no longer reading it through the eyes of religion.
This is a very extreme interpretation of what the hostess mentioned. Why would you conclude that men go bald if the woman's hair is the covering. I don't understand your logic. If the woman's LONG hair is her covering (verse 15) therefore when it says a woman's head ought to be covered it means to be covered in long hair.
That is the LOGIC being stated.
So if a man's head ought to be UNcovered wouldn't that logically just mean the opposite? That He should not be covered in long hair? Being a male I am not covered in long hair but neither is it shaven (bald) as I have short hair. So I don't understand why you would make this conclusion?
If you believe we are saved by faith through grace, then nothing is a salvation issue beyond that, is it? Why do we keep saying something isn't a salvation issue if you don't believe in doing anything for salvation to begin with? Whether you think it's for salvation or not is a moot point. The point is what Paul says about keeping the traditions....
So then brothers stand firm and hold to the traditions you were taught by us either by word or by letter.
2nd Thessalonians 2:15
And see what Paul says about those who don't hold to tradition....
2 Thessalonians 3:6
Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw yourselves from every brother who walks in rebellion and not after the tradition which they received from us.
So, in your attempt to avoid division, I fear that you have caused division by being what Paul calls in 1st Corinthians 11:16, the contentious one.
You're saying its up to the individual, but that's not what scriptures are saying. So you are teaching division, confusion, and disobedience.
Look, even the Catholic Church, in the 1960s, decided to stay out of the argument, and "abrogate", whatever the heck THAT means.
Basically, its the womans choice. Frankly it should always be her choice!
Wear it because you want to, because you feel beautiful, or at least street legal!
And little girls want to wear it because Mom looks beautiful! Happens a lot.
I hope a beautiful silk scarf changes your mind, one day!😅
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Sorry Mrs Yoder, but everything we do is a salvation issue, especially if we blatantly disregard what the Bible teaches. In other words if we are truly saved we will gladly obey. We are only as spiritual as we are scripuel
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. Eph 2:8-9
@@defendingthegospel721 Yes we are saved by grace, not of works. But why do people who do not believe in obeying the Bible stop with verse 9? Read on. Verse 10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." Also, if it has nothing to do with what we DO, what do you do with I Corinthians 6:10? "You know that wicked people will not inherit the kingdom of God, don’t you? Stop deceiving yourselves! Sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals, thieves, greedy people, drunks, slanderers, and robbers will not inherit the kingdom of God." (International Standard Version). Our actions reveal our hearts. As James2:18 says, "you show me your faith without your works and I will show you my faith BY my works."
@@anthonyblades1072 There seems to be an assumption here when you said “But why do people who do not believe in obeying the Bible stop with verse 9? Read on. Verse 10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."
It seems like you are trying squeeze out an idea that is NOT being transmitted in verse 10. If we are HIS workmanship, then it was God who worked not us. Not sure how you are misinterpreting this. Then it says we are CREATED in Christ Jesus unto good works. If we are created, meaning after we are born again, then it is after becoming saved we are made to do good works. But it is not hinged on doing good works that we are saved.
Jesus gave a great explanation of a man who cast out demons (a supernatural event) and did many wonderful works but was not allowed into heaven because even though he claimed to know the Lord he hinged his salvation on those works when God already sent his Son Jesus to die on the cross and spilled his blood, (without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins). Matt7:21-27
Even his disciples asked What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. John 6:28-29
As for I Corinthians 6:10 people who do any of these things and call themselves Christian are what is known as false converts. Meaning that they were NOT really meaning what they were saying. The idea is very similar to someone who claims to be in love with two different people. It is obvious that they really don’t mean what they SAY because their actions prove that they don’t. So there is no such thing as being a TRUE believer and say being gay.
So what you said is kind of true that “our actions reveal our hearts” but only that a true conversion never really took place for them to be transformed into a NEW creature. The same thing is understood in James 2:18 in that our works would reflect our true conversion. See this video that I hope helps, ruclips.net/video/2yVwKtFdJ_I/видео.html
Recall that the man who died next to Jesus was on a cross and had no time to do any physical work of any kind. In fact he didn’t even say much but to remember him when Jesus enters into his kingdom. But if we combine the work that Jesus said before which was to believe in him whom he hath sent then there was a kind of work by admitting Jesus was King and acceptance of who he was and is. Was he not saved despite Jesus saying that he would be with him in paradise? You see how there is something missing or off with your conclusions? God bless.
Then you’d better make sure you keep every letter of the law, if that’s where your faith lies.
It sounds like the Holy Spirit is helping you get out from under a spirit of religion! Jesus' yoke is easy and His burden is light! ❤
Amen
Hi- Jesus did command us to do this! It’s not just a spirit of religion. It’s in the Bible. Read my earlier comment for further explanation.
@Sarah-fs6li Jesus and exactly when did Jesus command a woman to put on a hat? Cause he definitely did not say anything when the woman wiped his feet with her hair, which would have been the perfect moment . It is not in the Bible you are grossly mistaken.