exactly! Since the televoting was introduced, juries always kept voting. Just in case there will be a televoting issue, so that the backup jury score would be used instead (which happened on few occasions, quite often with San Marino which failed to receive a minimal required amount of votes). And in the last two years with the removal of juries from semis, it is actually the same. They still vote on an evening before the live show, but now their voices just do not count at all as long as there are no issues with the televote.
San Marino does not have a televote because they cannot facilitate a separate network for San Marinese people to vote through, as they are part of the larger Italian telecommunications network. That's why their jury votes are counted every year as a televote substitute.
Interesting point, but well, they have definitely found some solution, cause their televote points are counted in the final alongside the jury points (Sammarinese televote is not 1:1 as the jury points and is also not similar to Italian televote). And when both juries and televote were counted in the semi-finals - they also had a separate Sammarinese televote
@@JustESCAnalyst No, there is no San Marinese televote, period, it's technically not possible. The scores that are presented as San Marino's televote scores in the final are a combination of other countries with similar voting patterns. It's basically an aggregate to substitute for the real thing as there is no way to separate San Marinese calls from Italian calls.
@@JustESCAnalyst From 2009-2015 San Marino only had a jury vote, and from 2016 onward, they have had this aggregate calculation average of a certain set of other countries that has acted as their televote score, so that - alongside their jury - they would have another set of points to give. There is and has never been an actual San Marinese televote.
@@JustESCAnalyst Exactly like the 2019 Belarus case. No, the EBU has refused to release which countries it's based on, even the San Marinese broadcaster doesn't know.
The updates SF2 with the juries? That was worse. The new results had fewer of my desired qualifiers than the one with only the televote. My desired qualifiers for SF2 were Netherlands, Georgia, Switzerland, Austria, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Greece, Estonia and Armenia. With only the televote, only 8 of mine would qualify (Israel and Latvia over Denmark and Belgium). But including the juries, only 7 of mine would qualify (Israel, Latvia and Czechia over Georgia, Belgium and Norway).
Mmmm i agree except for Denmark, too much points. I think Latvia and Albania could grab some points for the vocal ability. So, Albania could be better but not enough to qualify sadly. I think Georgia should grab more points for the show itself.
Unfortunately Latvia and Georgia were rated very poorly by the juries in the final as you can see in my first table 😢 I also would have expected the juries would like them more than they actually did
Slimane of France should have won 1st place. Swiss won because of so called Peace summit there in June. Eurovision Officals accepted bribes for the winner.
I would have preferred Denmark over Norway, but definitely not Czechia over Georgia. Love the analysis...and again, you have such a pleasant smile!
I absolutely agree, would have chosen Denmark over Norway but still Georgia over Czechia 😉
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So interesting, thanks a lot! And always with your big smile😄
My pleasure 😉 such a pity EBU does not reveal the real jury voting results from the semi-finals
@@JustESCAnalyst Oh! I didn‘t know that there are jury votes for the semis! So they vote, but it doesn‘t count?
exactly! Since the televoting was introduced, juries always kept voting. Just in case there will be a televoting issue, so that the backup jury score would be used instead (which happened on few occasions, quite often with San Marino which failed to receive a minimal required amount of votes). And in the last two years with the removal of juries from semis, it is actually the same. They still vote on an evening before the live show, but now their voices just do not count at all as long as there are no issues with the televote.
@@JustESCAnalyst Thank you! I didn‘t know that, but it‘s logical as a backup. Now I‘m a little bit wiser😉
Beautiful. Thank you. Very interesting,. sorry for Malta
Sarah has definitely deserved better! ❤️
San Marino does not have a televote because they cannot facilitate a separate network for San Marinese people to vote through, as they are part of the larger Italian telecommunications network. That's why their jury votes are counted every year as a televote substitute.
Interesting point, but well, they have definitely found some solution, cause their televote points are counted in the final alongside the jury points (Sammarinese televote is not 1:1 as the jury points and is also not similar to Italian televote). And when both juries and televote were counted in the semi-finals - they also had a separate Sammarinese televote
@@JustESCAnalyst No, there is no San Marinese televote, period, it's technically not possible. The scores that are presented as San Marino's televote scores in the final are a combination of other countries with similar voting patterns. It's basically an aggregate to substitute for the real thing as there is no way to separate San Marinese calls from Italian calls.
@@JustESCAnalyst From 2009-2015 San Marino only had a jury vote, and from 2016 onward, they have had this aggregate calculation average of a certain set of other countries that has acted as their televote score, so that - alongside their jury - they would have another set of points to give. There is and has never been an actual San Marinese televote.
Oh really? So an average aggregate like for example Belarusian jury had in the final of 2019? Do you know which countries they use for that?
@@JustESCAnalyst Exactly like the 2019 Belarus case. No, the EBU has refused to release which countries it's based on, even the San Marinese broadcaster doesn't know.
The updates SF2 with the juries? That was worse. The new results had fewer of my desired qualifiers than the one with only the televote. My desired qualifiers for SF2 were Netherlands, Georgia, Switzerland, Austria, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Greece, Estonia and Armenia. With only the televote, only 8 of mine would qualify (Israel and Latvia over Denmark and Belgium). But including the juries, only 7 of mine would qualify (Israel, Latvia and Czechia over Georgia, Belgium and Norway).
Mmmm i agree except for Denmark, too much points. I think Latvia and Albania could grab some points for the vocal ability. So, Albania could be better but not enough to qualify sadly. I think Georgia should grab more points for the show itself.
Unfortunately Latvia and Georgia were rated very poorly by the juries in the final as you can see in my first table 😢 I also would have expected the juries would like them more than they actually did
San Marino, Czechia and Malta should have qualified
YUP
Czechia and Malta have definitely deserved qualifying 👌
Slimane of France should have won 1st place. Swiss won because of so called Peace summit there in June. Eurovision Officals accepted bribes for the winner.
I agree, but have you seen his performance at the jury show? If his voice would have not had those bad cracks - France would be the winner I believe 👍
Be sure to check my final results analysis video 👌
huu very scary!!
Which country you would have missed in the final? Norway or Georgia? 😉
@@JustESCAnalyst Joost Klein