Red Bull's Christian Horner under investigation for alleged inappropriate behaviour
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Red Bull has launched an investigation after allegations of inappropriate behaviour were made against team principal Christian Horner. Horner denies the allegations and will remain in his role while the investigation continues.
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Gotta love skys reporting,
Craig: "so currently all Christian has said is he rejects this"
Presenter: "so has Christian actually said anything?"
🤨
😂 that line had me rolling
It’s a shame Karveh is not covering this 😂
He's a good journalist. Not the greatest presenter. But he's relevant.
standard diversity hire, Joey barton was right
Anything? Anything at all? Anything?
Innocent until proven guilty. I'm no horner fan but let's not call him guilty until its proven if it is then no option he has to go
The parent company RB is investigating the news . When was the last time a parent company started an investigation against their own employee . But you are right, let's wait till the investigations are done .
@@sidharthtirkey44 but what is the allegations? do we know?
@@nos9510 he sent inappropriate photos to a female employee
@@DESTINY.104 that is false.
He is the most dirty team principal in F1. Jail time is coming.
Hate when these accusations are made public before any guilt has been found. The media and fans will assume hes guilty let the truth come out first
Yeah it's bs before we know the truth
That's the point.
@@Bahamuttiamat no I get that but media companies shouldn't be allowed to speculate this stuff can ruin reputations and careers
It tempts the readers to make baseless speculations.
Like this:
-Awesome wife Geri Haliwell considered restarting the Spice Girls, and said to keep your eyes open for potential members.
Christian told an employee, "You'd make a good Spice Girl!"
...which could count as harassment.
100% guilty just look at him 😂😂😂😂😂
I feel like we need more information before this becomes a big story.
RB have announced the investigation....that makes it a big story just from that information. They could have kept it quiet if they wished, but then all sorts of snippets would have come out unofficially.
Dutch media used "Grensoverschreidend gedrag" which translates to causing damage to someone physically, mentally or emotionally. It doesn't have to be sexual. It could be discrimination, bullying or agressive behaviour. We know basically nothing at this point. RB further announced it which is the parent company thus its big news and they hired a 3rd party which is even worse.
Nothing worse than your snippet coming out unofficially. Sorry.
@@bobstirling6885 I've heard that there was a leak first. If that's the case, Red Bull would have had to say/do something before word spread
With comments like that, it's clear you have no future at Sky Sports. 🙂
That pesky time traveler won't stop moving chairs
Nah , we need more drama 🥹💀
Stop 😂😂
No one can drag a non-story out of nothing like this guy.
Im confused. What exactly is he being accused of?
@@lazylorax6641improper conduct toward a female employee is the word on the interwebs
@@navnig i just can't believe, Horner would do something like that!
@@lazylorax6641 Yea this is stupid, he has a family and his wife Geri is gorgeus woman.
@@DevilWolf000 He also had a wife and a family (on the way) who he dropped when he thought he saw something better (Geri), so you can’t deny he has form.
That said, and whilst I’ve never liked anything about Horner, his politics, his questionable objectivity and endless brown nosing (although he clearly knows which side his bread is buttered), I don’t get the impression this is a sexual harassment allegation, more of a bullying one and although I can see him being controlling and even bullying to a point…I don’t actually think he’ll have done more than be an incredibly demanding boss and someone has decided to hit the nuke button knowing it could damage him, even if it wasn’t warranted. I think there will be a grain of truth to this but not enough to throw the book at him. Far worse employees are retained for far longer when in powerful positions. This will blow over.
All that said, I don’t think it would be hard to replace him if it came to it - Horner has always been a mouthpiece for RB and done very well from it, but he’s not a leader of men by nature, he just happened to occupy the seat when endless money and talent from others was pooling in. I don’t see anything he does as remarkably special.
This is another incident where some soft guy could not handle the work place pressure and decided to cry about it.
@rakeshmalik365
He might be hard.
sky sports F1 has no integrity. Most of these presenters should just join a tabloid. I cant bare anyone of these people but Martin Brundle keeps me hooked and watching the sky commentary. I wish he would just leave for a rival establishment.
I agree but sadly I doubt if your wish is going to be granted. Reportedly Brundle earns a whacking great salary for working at Sky - he ain't leaving any time soon!
Not sure getting your F1 presenter to air something as nebulous as this is currently is particularly bright.
@@GarrishChristopherRobin777 Lewis' flatulence: F1
What @@GarrishChristopherRobin777
When F1 is too boring for fans, bring in the news and allegations.
its not to boring rn though the lewis move was just announced
Anything to mask the andretti news
Final month of the offseason has ramped up
LH to Ferrari 2025, weirdass name changes, Singapore audit, Andretti rejected, Steiner fired now this
Can't beat Max. Let's try with Christian.
Im confused. What exactly is he being accused of? I think more concrete information has to be established before going after someone.
Exactly. There are many levels and versions of what is and what is not "inappropriate".
Alledgedly, inappropriate photos to a female coworker.
@@lalalittle3900 So that would be a turbo V10, according to F1?
@@lalalittle3900 christian hornball
@@lalalittle3900 That's not true at all. That's just what some garbage sites jumped to assume. The definitive answer so far (supposedly directly from the person herself) is the employee made a HR claim that Christian was using "controlling behaviour" in the workplace.
Which, you know, is a ridiculous claim in itself. He's the boss. The person in charge. He's meant to be in control of the employees for god sake. If not, then he wouldn't be doing his job.
Honestly, from what it sounds, it seems like this employee was responsible for a situation, got told off, and couldn't handle being told off or disciplined like any normal adult person in a workplace would be able to understand.
People will cry victim for anything these days just for the slightest monetary gains or personal attention.
Only an employee is upset how Christian leads the team. If they don’t like it then go elsewhere. Christian has done the best job at red bull
At least the guy in the studio was listening............
The complaint is apparently about "his aggressive management style". That's rather his job, isn't it?
Yes, disgusting video from Sky.
Employment laws exist for everyone... if he crossed lines, he crossed line regardless of his role.
@@amandadublin3129 If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. We'll see what the complaint is.
@@gtv6chuck people are pathetic these days
No
What is WRONG, is that someone can make a public claim, but remain hidden! Name both people or neither!
Not a Horner fan at all. But innocent until proven guilty!
What a nonsense, there is no story here at the moment but lets make a huge deal out of it to try and rubbish the guy!
why is bro in a church not horners funeral
This is what I wondered too
😂😂😂😂😂
They're on a Stake F1 event, judging by the large amounts of green and black in the back
Yep it was stakes F1 car reveal
It's a Trappist monastery , Horner's just signed up .
Strange indeed. With being such a long-running and highly regarded team captain; apart from the odd swearing session I seen in the Drive to Survivie; I don't imagine that Horner has done anything malicious and this has been blown out of proportion. Need more details
"well, the car is better than ours, the driver is better than ours, what's left???? Let's go after Horner !!"
So the best way to put Horner in the boiling pot when he is sailing fast with the winning team. Must be a paid case to disturb the RB team.
Initially in the investigation I think it's unfair the accused is named yet the accuser remains anonymous. If he's guilty then it's the end of his career and rightly so, but he deserves the same anonymity until proven guilty.
What difference does it make if the accuser is named? Just a question
Get all the facts first!!!! Don’t jump the shark. We know how things like this can. Play out. Don’t believe all………
100%
girl what are u on about
@musiq1472 redbull released the statement. They didn't overspend either 😂
It's going to be a rocker of a year😅😅 This must be a good chance for Marko for the TP job. Its on.
absolutely. no evidence, nothing happened
Guenther Steiner is licking his lips and ready to save Red Bull's image
So 1 woman anomalously complaint. Based on that he is thrown under the boss. Unbelievable.
Wonder if there’s video evidence which has prompted investigation by a Barrister ?
CCTV cameras are now everywhere, you are being constantly watched in offices, workshops, hotels, corridors etc.
Media !!! Anything for a story.. Go Christian, all with you..
If you have enough money, you will have to go through this at least once in your lifetime.
Funny because, it's true.
You don't have to be rich. Such accusations are trendy these days.
Thats why they actually have rich men who are never alone with a woman unless there is another person in the room or camera/audio.
Women ☕️
@@Striker885This kind of behaviour is becoming standard for ☕
"Inappropriate behaviour" carries only one connotation when it's a headline and NOT the one that he's actually been accused - that is that he's a mean boss that puts pressure on his staff. But yeah, lets drag the guy through a field of glass without anything else to go on. Good Job guys. You got your headlines and views.
So the way to stop this shite happening is to make the person who is making the claims, financially liable for ALL costs incurred, to the company, the accused, the solicitors etc etc. If you are right, your accusation is sound, you have nothing to worry about!!!
Not a fan of Christian Horner, but let's not indulge in idle speculation, the guy's innocent until proven guilty, not the other way round as seems to happen with "trial by media".
RedBull released a statement and all the media have done is report the fact they released a statement.
We thought Lewis moving to Ferrari was going to be the big story!
Still is!
Plausible case of being a windbag?
Classic Sky.....blow headlines out of proportions to cause a stir.
Sky just responding to Redbulls statement. How is what was just said by Sky 'blown out of proportion'? They've reported the statement put out by Horners employees. That's it. No conjecture. Just what they know. That's it.
This isn't a leak or anything unofficial. It's reporting the facts only.
🙄@supaG421
@@niotek thanks for your feedback on my comment, really appreciate it.
the same media that lies about covid and the safety of vaccines and are lying about Ukraine, are lying again - simple
Everyone who wanted Wolff investigated over an alleged complaint suddenly has a problem with investigations over an actual complaint someone made
It’s still an alleged complaint as it’s not proven yet. I’m not a Horner fan but innocent until proven guilty.
@@erhhsdhh2099 the “complaint” behind the Wolff investigation was never actually made by anyone. There were reports of a complaint but no one actually raised a concern.
@@erhhsdhh2099 It's not an alleged complaint, it is an actual complaint, Red Bull Austria confirmed therefore the investigations. It is however alleged allegations because he's not found guilty yet.
@@risa8845 Fair enough, that is correct.
@@maxseltzer I wasn’t talking about the Wolff one, I was talking about Horner. But the other guy who replied to me summarised it well
Toto was angry when he threw those head phones 😂 now that was aggressive behaviour 😂😂😂😂
Why are news outlets allowed to report on allegations before investigation/trial concluded?!
Are you serious? You don't want to be famous.
You been living under a rock; Jonathan majors, bill Cosby, vince McMahon
It’s called freedom of speech / freedom of press
@@legibbyand it’s also called another thing… Defamation. and defamation is a limitation put under the freedom of speech and press if didn’t know. you cannot defame, slander, nor spread libel knowing the information (which will negatively affect one’s life socially/financially) is false or inaccurate. now was this news coverage out of malice or greed? the law will have to figure that one out.
@@eggie_D Am a lawyer. The law already has this one figured out. Allegations like this are within the public interest, as Christian is an influential and famous person. No libel or slander has occurred, what they have said is accurate. There is an investigation ongoing into allegations. The intention of the news outlet (malice or greed) is irrelevant, quite frankly.
Redbull trying to steal the hype of Lewis move to Ferrari 😂
I mean... Horner IS definitely a spotlight-hog, lol
The timing is impeccable.
It's so nice when seeing an avalanche of speculation on X; we can turn to Sky to learn nothing of substance. Bodes well for the season of
I really don't think this will have the effect they think it will. The car is already mostly finalised, the team is set for the year. They would have been better off making allegations against Max. Horner doesn't driver the car to race wins.
I didn't even see this news until now 🤨
Why do I feel like this has something to do with the Toto / Suzie Wolff debacle not long ago 👀
There's not much to go on so far when you check the articles in question. But it is very much silly season this year isn't it?
SkySports are super content right now about this
I don't know about the allegations and won't dare speculate on them, but I am curious as the timing of this, considering the source of the issue is the RB house, who stands to gain from this? I wonder if this is not effort to try wrestle power away from RedBull racing by the new leadership post Dietrich. They tried Helmut and now Horner....
here we go
What a coincidence. Week before launch.
Horner faces allegations of 'incredibly controlling behaviour' by female colleague…..what a load of crap. Controlling is his job. It’s why his team got the results they have today. However, in this world you can not tell a “minority” what to do, especially not how to do their job, regardless of being their supervisor. So sad to see this getting any validity. Countersue her, hard! That’s the only solution to these problems.
i would take anything written in the Telegraaf with a grain of salt, this paper is known for speculating and stirring drama, and im am from The Netherlands.
Seems some backstabbing going on.
No one at RB will dare to disturb the holy trinity of Horner, Marco and Verstappen! That robot voice at 0:25 really creeped me out though...
Probably used ai in that part as the presenter isn't even in the picture
If Jonathan Major is guilty than everyone is guilty 😂😂😂
They keep claiming that Horner has said certain things over the years then out of no wait no he didn't say that...
It's all part of Fredrick Vasseur's masterplan to get to grab the title in 2025
Not if Ferrari still has the same strategists and pit crew of 2023 in 2025..😂😂😂
Inappropriate in what way?
David wallams got fired for the same thing
Nothing new on his behavior. Known Issue !
Surprised that Sky Sports have allowed comments on this video
Honestly when the accusations come out before even any true evidence is brought out it just shows what there is not weight to the accusations and this is just to damage personal reputations. I hope all this is cleared.
I wonder which other team gains by the RB employee making this accusation?
I’d probably look closer to home. Who in RB would gain from this?
Dude’s speaking at 0.75 speed.
Who got bribed by Mercedes now man
Please check spelling Sky !!
He looks like a savil fan
Did he call a women a female. Again!
Always remember….innocent until proven otherwise. Regardless of history or anything else.
They guy really has to force himself to not burst into laughter..
Curious that this is coming from the Telegraaf/Erik van Haren. They're pretty much a Red Bull/Max Verstappen newspaper since day one.
No they are not. They are Dutch so they post abt Max. He isn’t a Max fan. Telegraaf is a gutter paper, lowest if the low here. Van Haren had his story from a Salzburg paper.
My guy standing in the room of requirement
I am certain to prevent RB image , he will be pardoned.
The neurons of a toe.
@@eduardosantana8300 here comes the blind supporter.
Pardoned for what? Sounds like you've found him guilty but you don't even know of what. Sad!
Tell us what he’s been found guilty of then why don’t you?
Aside from these allegations, he’s clearly not a good guy
based on what?
@@benglasgowthe words he says, his demeanour, what he doesn’t say, how he rides a horse, his face
F1: “We need something to distract from our terrible decision on Andretti…”
Lewis Hamilton to Ferrari: “I got you fam.”
Christian Horner: “BET.”
anybody can allege anything but now we accuse until proven innocents. wake up people
But what does Michael Andretti have to say about this?
Would it be possible to ask Sky Sports to employ reporters with at least a B2 level of English?
What makes u say that
what part of the reporter's English wasn't satisfactory for you Chistopher?
Craig is a top notch journalist and his English is perfectly adequate.
Nothing wrong with the English language used. Are you trying to turn this into some "foreign interference" conspiracy?
He also said he wasnt over the Costcap
Genius, he must be guilty then right? 🤦♂️
He wasn’t informed by FIA at that moment. He thought they were okay with budget. Toto had premature inside info from FIA that Horner didn’t have yet…. So Horners said the truth then. And he does so now too
Horner didn't know how else to get back in the news after the Hamilton Ferrari move
Complainant's name Mr T Wolf ;)
Timing is everything in these types of news stories!
Lets be honest guilty or not this will damage his reputation
What will? I didnt hear anything?
THE PLAN.
Step 1: Discredit
not really if not guilty
@@unthenner5519 you must be a reasonable human then. Not many of us left
So, it seems like someone wants to get rid of Horner. Is this an attempt by another team to slow Red Bull down on the race track?
With this news and Lewis going to ferrari that's next years drive to survive sorted!!
Unfortunate on my phone, “it’s no surprise” from Toto pops up as a recommended video. I know it’s about Lewis but it’s cropped 🙈
When you at the top, they will try and get ya.
And we have the devilish coincidence with Guenther being out of an F1 team
Meaning?
Somebody said something about Christian Horner and it may or may not be true? Whoa!
Christian Horner needs Massi to bail him out, again.
I'm no Horner fan but your accusing him of something , I hate how the media can cast a shadow on a man without any evidence this is disturbing and his kids are gonna go threw it because his gonna be tried by media.
Success brings out the knives........
What's the betting it's a ex redbull employee that's a bitter person for being sacked so after a big payday..
The accusations are nothing without evidence. Why even report this?
Because that's their job mate.
Same as what happened with Toto and susie 🤷🏼♂️ didn’t stop people from demanding anything and everything
Probably got caught giving ginger spice one in the executive toilet 😂
"How dare the news report news."
Room temperature IQ.
Cause that's how a free press works? You report things.
Sounds like a corporate hatchet job , we see this all the time
Barrister to investigate, sounds serious.
This is the best pre season ever! Actually this pre season is more exciting than the actual season.
I don’t believe this.
I’m not a fan of Red Bull, or Christian Horner but he’s been there years and I would have thought this would have come up long before now.
I feel sorry to however is innocent and their families. It could destroy his job, family,and his character.
These days I don't believe ANYTHING the media has to say!
It's not the media saying it, it's Red Bull
I ain't a redbull fan, but the grid without Christian Horner will be lacklustre. The grid needs people like him to bring competition and occasionally spice things up with his old 'pal' Toto.😃
What exactly is inappropriate behaviour?
Did Andretti filled this complaint?
No wonder why he's been so quiet after the Hamilton move.
It's not like him to at least come out with a small quip rubbing salt into Toto's wound.
The season has been over for months and is another month away from starting yet. Team principles are quiet this time of year every year except at livery launches and other major conferences, of which there haven’t been any for red bull. With your kind of bullshit speculation, you might end up on a sky panel soon.
Yeah Horner is criminal prosecuted and soon to be sentenced. Probably he gets life time.
Looks like the knives just got sharper….