As soon people starts to look for this kind of content they start to join the channel and watch all other videos. I was looking for an Asus gaming router Wifi 6 and ended up here. Binge watching all content now. Important to subscribe and like the videos to make the channel grow and have more exposure on youtube algorithym.
I totally agree. This guy is extremely knowledgeable, has a gift for economy of words and keeps his videos short and to the point. He obviously puts a lot of time in effort into the videos with the graphics, etc. He's also an awesome drummer. :) Just kidding but I really like his light hearted approach. Well done.
Thanks for this vid! I had no idea AiM 2.0 was available. Just updated firmware on my network - works great. Now I can use guest networks all over the place. I really like your channel, you've taught me a lot.
Good video. I'm running 2x RT-AC3100, 1x RT-AC68P, and 1x RT-AC68U in an AiMesh configuration. My 3100s are connected via cable (forming the core of my network) while the 68s are connected via wireless to expand my coverage. I placed one 68 in the garage so that my MySpool mailbox sensor could reach. Mostly the 68s are to expand the coverage out into the yard as I have 2 acres and stream Pandora while doing yard work. I had stability problems before (like your other video), prompting me to make a Best Buy run and pick up the 3100s one day. (I work at home and my wife has been too due to COVID so it is vital to have a stable network.) I think I narrowed my problem down to an Onkyo receiver, but it might have been the utilization of a "68" like you. At any rate, my network is mostly stable now. The previous firmware may have been a bit problematic, but the current one seems to be running without issue.
Man, thank you very much for your videos! I just watched whole playlist on mesh and TP-Link/Asus implementations and they give such a concise and understandable explanation. And then you show tests, showing how you actually configure it on their web-panels. Thank you
Very clear explanation...looking forward to Ai Mesh vs Repeater video Just setup Ai Mesh with AX88U & AC68U… I bind some devices to the main router as this suppose to prevent them from jumping to the node
Im pretty sure that blacklist makes it so that the nodes do not kick clients off the network when they go below a certain single strength forcing the client to reconnect Having a device on the list means that the device will not get kicked it will just stay connected until you go out of range then swap over This is good for ourdoor devices on the edge of the network they wont get repeatedly kicked cause they have a low signal strength
Thanks for all your great videos, analysis and advice. I recently needed to overhaul my home network and decided to go with Asus routers and AiMesh after watching several of your videos. They just explained things so well and made good logical comparisons. I am quite happy and soon will be adding a 2nd AiMesh node. Easy peazy!
Very helpful and informative, I have an Asus AI mesh setup at the moment and am about to add a new main router (RT-89AX). Thankyou for the info, I found it very useful!
You Make Very Informative Video ....I Learn Alot From Your Videos . Plz Make Explanatory Videos on Some Wifi Routers Features Like DMZ , UPnP ,Static Route like What Are Uses Of Them . Thank You.
Been using aimesh for a while and that roaming block list helped with my Nintendo wiiu that would jump between two nodes during game play. It will now lock onto one node and stay there. Before this online play was near impossible for me.
I removed my 2 RT-AC68U nodes from the AiMesh, having them connected to the RT-AX86U as regular APs. Reason: in the AiMesh the wireless time schedule applies to the main router and all nodes, cannot set the time schedule for the individual nodes. I only need the nodes to provide wireless signal in the evening, saves electricity.
My AC86U as node's 2.4Ghz kept disconnecting the 2.4 Wifi client and mostly will be strangled them from connecting to Internet. However the 5Ghz interface on that AC86 node works perfectly!! I just hate to say the AC86U is completely flawed product with whatever the 2.4Ghz components they were using in the AC86U product lines!!! AX86U works perfect both 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz!
Tri-band routers are the best for mesh networking, (assuming you want to use wireless backhaul). Now based on my research in this video [ruclips.net/video/dM2dC9hZz-E/видео.html] the best Asus Tri-band router is currently the GT-AX11000, but it's just my opinion and please do your own research as well. Cheers!
Great advice - thanks. Does the wired etherent backhaul need to use specific ports on the rear? And if there are no spare ports (1-4) can you use a spare port on an external switch (provided that is connected to one of the ports 1-4 of course)?
Thanks. The Ethernet cable should be connected to the WAN port of the node and any LAN port on the main router. AiMesh was initially designed to require a direct connection, with no switch in between. I personally tried this back then and can confirm that if there is a switch, it doesn't work. However, it's been a while since then, and I'm not sure if this has changed. Thanks.
@@Behfor Thanks for that... Did you try any of the physical LAN ports on the Mesh Nodes in your experiments? I wonder if the LAN ports are active and usable on the mesh nodes.
How is the performance connecting to the main router vs the node? I recently got an RT-AX86U and have my old RT-AC68U like you do, but my concern is latency when gaming. I utilize Steam Link a lot but I'm worried if I were to connect to the node that the extra hop would create noticeable lag.
My brother, can you talk about bottlenecking in-terms or modem/router combinations. For example, potential bottlenecks from modem with a max speed mbps of 300 and a modem with a max mbps with a 2.5 gbps Ethernet port and combined theoretical wifi speeds of 11000 across the Triband and vice versa as applicable. This would make a good video I think for a lot as many are confused with regard to buying their own modem/router or gateway vs renting isp gateways
@7.48 - WiFi will get disconnected for couple of seconds and reconnects to the new AP. So it is still roaming since SSID is same name and password but not AP managed. Its a bad experience for the end user, to not use WLC or AP enabled roaming. However the feature is cool, as you the freedom to troubleshoot etc, I guess.
question i have a aimesh node set up.. but my devices always seem to connect to the main router instead of the aimesh.. why? is it cos of the imesh routher bing set up too near to the main one?
The Aimesh node and the AiMesh router should not be too close or too far from each other to have the best roaming experience. This video might give you a better idea: ruclips.net/video/qusVMXQC9zU/видео.html Thanks.
Nice video! What are the pros/cons for setting up Node in AiMesh vs AP mode? Specifically Ax11000(Primary router) and AX92U (Node) using Ethernet Backhaul Thank You!!
AP out performs mesh mostly due to the boundry updates between the cells of each nodes in the mesh (this is also 3 demensional not just one story or one floor) but the hand off in mesh is seemless between nodes making the bandwidth look consistent ( if you move from room to you usualy have disconnect and reconnect to get better performance when not using mesh)
Thanks for this awesome video. I had a question about AiMesh. Suppose I have several AiMesh routers (Let all are RT-AX55) and I have a central router in our home (let it a Mikrotik one). Can I use all the AiMesh routers as Access Point/AiMesh Router mode (not the Router/Aimesh Router mode) just connected to the central Mikrotik router and create an AiMesh system?
Hello Behfor, is it possible to use a Raspberrypi(openwrt) as a Main Router and use the ethernet wire to connect all the 3 AC 86U as Access Point(Aimesh 2.0 function enabled), how to do this configuration?
Thank you for your video, Behfor! Do you know if I can use my three Plume Adaptive Super Pods in bridge mode with the RT-AX86U? Currently, we have an Arris DG2470A cable modem feeding our three Plume pods. Would I use the Asus AI feature or simply let the Plume Pods config in bridge mode?
Thank you for this video. This may get me to try AImesh now that I have an AX86U and a AC86U. I have a wired setup that works well but I find that some of my devices like my Samsung S20 will stay connected to the repeater so I probably would really benefit from Aimesh.
Hi, out of curiosity how was your setup? I have roughly 70 devices on my network and wasn't sure if the non-OFDMA ac86u bottle necked the wifi-6. Is the new router only as good as the old one can be?
So when your primary router is a wifi 6 router and the rest of the ai mesh network wifi 5, what happens to the wifi 6 router. Is it still running wifi 6 or does it go back to a wifi 5 mode for compatibility? I would really like to know what happens because I am tempted to buy a wifi 6 router. But if it doesn't improve the speeds when it's ai mesh with a wifi 5 router there isn't much point buying a wifi 6 router.
Just recently change to Asus AiMesh ecosystem because of your video, it is easy and more flexible than others. Here is one question which I can't find the answer anywhere. Let's say Router A (RT-AX56U) as Main Router and Router B (RT-AC59U) as Node. 1st problem (not that important) It seems like I must pair Router B via Wireless first, after pairing as node, then I can use it with wired. It seems like I can't pair AiMesh with wired from the start, or I was doing something wrong? 2nd problem (the main problem) While I can roam seamlessly with my main SSID, It seems like Guest SSID only appear on Router A. I have made sure this by isolating the router from each others. Is this the limit of my routers, or it is the limitation of AiMesh 2.0? edit: There are a list of supported device for guest network... The devil is in the detail T.T ZenWiFi: XT8(RT-AX95Q), XD4(RT-AX56U_XD4), CD6(RT-AC59_CD6) GT series: GT-AX11000, GT-AC5300, GT-AC2900 RT series: RT-AX88U, RT-AX92U, RT-AX86U, RT-AX82U, RT-AX58U, TUF-AX3000, RT-AX56U, RT-AX55 RT series: RT-AC5300, RT-AC88U, RT-AC3100, RT-AC86U, RT-AC68U
I have yet to see this question or answer to this on the AiMesh solution. Can you utilize the Ethernet ports on the secondary node? So if your primary node is connected to your cable modem and the AiMesh is established wirelessly on either frequency to a secondary node; can you run an Ethernet cable from one of the one of the Ethernet ports on the secondary node to a non-wireless desktop, laptop, server or printer that has an Ethernet port for network connectivity?
Does anyone know how to turn down the transmit power of the system? Or, even better, individual nodes? I am running a pretty robust system with the AX-86U as the main hub, x2 AX3000s, x2 AX55s, and an AX56U as access points. This gives me perfect coverage over my property, but the neighbors (still under construction) will be fairly close. I walked nearly 6-7 lots away, apx 800 feet away from my house, and I still had connection to my network on the 5Ghz band, which is likely not going to be possible with more networks to interfere, but the distance is a problem. I do not want to lose the coverage I have within the yard and home, but need to limit the distance beyond the apx 35ft distance to each property line. Any suggestions? The internet has produced no information so far.
Thank you for the video. I have a question: the main router support wifi6, while the two nodes support up to wifi5. What happen when your phone supports wifi6, and connected to the AX86 over wifi6, and then you move to other room and now connected to AC68?
Hi, the phone which is WiFi6 is also backward compatible with WiFi5, so when it's connected to AX86 it's using WiFi6 and when it connects to AC68, its gonna be using WiFi 5. Thanks.
If I use a hardwire cable for the mesh backhaul, can I use the 5gHz-2 for routine device connections? Essentially giving me more 5gHz capability. ASUS tells me that 5-1 is for device connection and 5-2 is for backhaul. If you use a wire for the backhaul, seeesm like you have more 5gHz capability.
Thanks for the video !!! I have an ai mesh network with ac88u (router) and two ac68u (node's) with wired connection. The speed transfer between nodes or wired connection laptops to router or node's never up until 1GB (test with jperf ). Any idea ?
I am getting my AX86U today to replace me AC68U(move to access point). Do you have any videos on if I can backhaul the 68U to the main router AND a switch? Making a LAN triangle?
I have a Asus Router with AI Mesh.. what is the cheapest Asus Router which supports AI mesh ... Coz i want to use it as a repeater.. Thanks in advance..
Hello, I currently have the highest baud rate from comcast I have2 Asus ZenWifi AX6000 nodes, I have one Asus node connected to my comcast modem(wired) and one is up in my bonus room, (wifi) which is on the opposite side of the house I am unable to get my wifi Samsung tv to work in my bonus room with out being pixelated should I purchase another node or should I purchase the ASUS WiFi 6 Router (RT-AX3000) - Dual Band Gigabit Wireless Internet Router. thank you in advance
Thank you for the video Before. I have a question can the node broadcast its own SSID even though it gets the internet from the main router WIFI SSID? Thank you
If you connected the second router as Node for AI Mesh, you won’t be able to change its SSID because it will copy whatever SSID and Security you have set in Main AiMesh Router.
Hi Behfor, thanks for the video. Can you still use the ethernet ports on the nodes even if you're using a wireless backhaul connection? I'm planning to connect a VoIP phone in the node but want to make sure this will work before I get a node.
Hi, in an AiMesh system you can use the LAN ports of the nodes to connect wired devices and it doesn't matter what type of backhaul connection you are using. Thanks.
@@Behfor does that apply to other things as well?? Can you plug a Hardrive into a node and run an ftp server on it? Can you plug in a 4g Modem and use it as the fall back etc...?? It seems like a waste having a fairly powerful router just being a wifi node..
I wouldn't call it a main node because it doesn't do anything particularly more significant than other nodes! Besides if I have 4 nodes for example then I can have 2 different main nodes, which doesn't make sense! It's just a node that was manually set as the next hop for the node in the kitchen (in this example). Thanks.
What's the optimal configuration for wi-fi backhaul? I don't want to extend wi-fi, just use it on the secondary router to remotely connect ethernet cables to PCs down in the dungeon. Just go with WDS or... ?
wired backhaul is optimal however you might want let the mesh own the connection to the internet and make everything connect wireless so that you will not see the mesh traffic doing backhaul on the lan
I'm planning on getting Philips Hue in my house. Do you know if you can connect the Hue Bridge to the node, or if it has to be connected to the primary router? I have very limited space where my primary is located, so connecting the bridge to the node would help a lot.
I have setup two Asus RT AC5300 routers in a mesh (2.0) running Asuswrt-Merlin at 386.2_4. I had to call in Charter Spectrum on a performance issue (it was wiring outside the house). When the repairman connected his pc to the ethernet port on the modem, he registered a download speed of 225Mb/sec. I took my laptop and hooked it up as well and also got 225Mb/sec. However, when I connected wirelessly, the best I could get was 65Mb/sec. Routers have the very latest firmware, but the performance is around one third of what it used to be. How can that be? Will be researching to find better throughput. Hope someone has a good idea.
I’m going to guess that when connected wirelessly your device connected with 2.4GHz which is slower than 5GHz (but it has better range than 5GHz). Ethernet is almost always going to be faster than wireless, so a dip is expected because there’s more overhead for the devices to deal with.
@@ClAddict Nope, Asus router shows it was connected to the 5G-1 band. The technician had also asked me that and the network map provided the info on which band a device is connected to.
@@Behfor Actually, that is a great suggestion. For the 2.4 band, all channels are pretty congested with 1, 6, and 11 being pretty heavily used (including me). On the 5 band, I saw that 48 was available so I chose it and no competition and 161 available and only one other person on it so I chose those two. Unfortunately, by best speed on wifi was around 65-70 while on my desktop which has an ethernet connection (to the router, not the modem) the speed was 81. However, one puzzling thing. When I first tested wifi after making changes on the router, the download speed was 181 Mb/sec. But oddly, subsequent tests showed only about 70. Will keep plugging.
SUCCESS!!! You pointed me in the right direction! After looking at channel usage on the 5G bands, I added two channels I had not used. I am now able to download at 170-180Mb/sec consistently rather than the 65-70 prior to my change.
2>1 lol, I'm gonna have to agree :-) If you use a CAT5 Ethernet cable (100 Mbps) for backhaul, then most likely any 5 GHz backhaul would be better than that. Even if you use a good cable (1 Gbps), at least on paper you can get faster wireless backhaul speeds than that , but that'll depend on many factors such as the router, the distance, the number of clients connected to each node and etc. In real world though, a wired backhaul almost always gives you better results, because you don't have to rely on those many factors which any of them could significantly impact the backhaul quality. I hope that makes sense, thanks.
@@Behfor I was going to say that it would have to be a very long run for the router to drop to 100 mbps, but that would still be better because at that distance omnidirectional wifi doesn't stand a chance. My house is full of cat5 happily running @ 1G. BUT the router was always happier if I don't change any settings after adding the nodes.
You can find the list of Aimesh routers here: www.asus.com/networking-iot-servers/whole-home-mesh-wifi-system/aimesh-wifi-routers-and-systems/filter?Series=AiMesh-WiFi-Routers-and-Systems
my issue is that my node will not give out 5Ghz singnal anymore at times for no reason (ethernet cat6 backhaul is on) so the node is only giving out slow 2.4ghz. only fix is reconnect node to reouter. very annoying
@@UbixQ after finding out that the guest network caused problems did you just disable it or also factory reset. As without a factory reset with erasing everything it will be causing problems. This is for all the connected routers.. What is your setup? I have rt-ac86 as main and a couple of rt-ac68 as nodes.
@@UbixQ did you try to Assign different names to SSIDs on the 2GHz and 5GHz bands and then use only the 5GHz band for connecting. So disable smart connect. Do they have the latest firmware? Did you try different 5GHz Channel bandwidth? For the rest I'm out of ideas, sorry.
Hi and thank you for your amazing videos.. Please keep it going for us all. I have a question.. I am currently running a ax58u 3000 router as my main one and it's great but I have just purchased a ax86u 5700 and want to make this my main router using the mesh system.. How do I make the 86u my main router without having to reset everything and start again ? Is there a way to add it to the system and then make it the main router and then switch the 58u to a mode ? Or add it as a mode and then switch it to be main router ? Can this be done ? Can anyone help with this ? Many thanks
Hi, As far as I know what you are trying to do is not possible. However you don't have to reset everything! Just configure the new router the same as the old one, replace your old router with it and connect the old one as a node! It's a 15min job I guess. You might even be able to save the old router's config file and upload it to the new router, but since they are not identical routers I can't recommend it.
Well, the same compared to what exactly?! Those things you mentioned can be impacted by tons of factors (including: interference, channel utilization, distance, obstacles, noise and etc) even if you test now and then again in 10 seconds you can get different numbers because of a million factors. Long story short, wireless is very complicated you can never expect certain numbers therefor no AiMesh 2 or even 3 can promise to give you better "ping speed and internet speed". It'll always depend.
Why this channel is so underrated? This type of video needs more traffic for such good quality content and good advice/tips! Keep it up bro!
Good question!!
Thanks :-)
Yea fully agree, the way he explains things is so simple to understand, due to his video I purchased an ax-86u and have no regrets.
As soon people starts to look for this kind of content they start to join the channel and watch all other videos. I was looking for an Asus gaming router Wifi 6 and ended up here. Binge watching all content now. Important to subscribe and like the videos to make the channel grow and have more exposure on youtube algorithym.
I totally agree. This guy is extremely knowledgeable, has a gift for economy of words and keeps his videos short and to the point. He obviously puts a lot of time in effort into the videos with the graphics, etc. He's also an awesome drummer. :) Just kidding but I really like his light hearted approach. Well done.
@@jatimmonsjr You killed me with the drummer joke xD
Dude, by far the most comprehensive video for beginners. Answered all the most important questions. Appreciate it, comment for engagement.
Really appreciate your comment, glad it was helpful.Thanks 👍
Thanks for this vid! I had no idea AiM 2.0 was available. Just updated firmware on my network - works great. Now I can use guest networks all over the place. I really like your channel, you've taught me a lot.
Great to hear! Thanks :-)
Good video. I'm running 2x RT-AC3100, 1x RT-AC68P, and 1x RT-AC68U in an AiMesh configuration. My 3100s are connected via cable (forming the core of my network) while the 68s are connected via wireless to expand my coverage. I placed one 68 in the garage so that my MySpool mailbox sensor could reach. Mostly the 68s are to expand the coverage out into the yard as I have 2 acres and stream Pandora while doing yard work. I had stability problems before (like your other video), prompting me to make a Best Buy run and pick up the 3100s one day. (I work at home and my wife has been too due to COVID so it is vital to have a stable network.) I think I narrowed my problem down to an Onkyo receiver, but it might have been the utilization of a "68" like you. At any rate, my network is mostly stable now. The previous firmware may have been a bit problematic, but the current one seems to be running without issue.
Man, thank you very much for your videos! I just watched whole playlist on mesh and TP-Link/Asus implementations and they give such a concise and understandable explanation. And then you show tests, showing how you actually configure it on their web-panels. Thank you
I personally won't use AiMesh soon, but glad to know that my router is capalbe to do such convenient stuff.
Very clear explanation...looking forward to Ai Mesh vs Repeater video
Just setup Ai Mesh with AX88U & AC68U… I bind some devices to the main router as this suppose to prevent them from jumping to the node
Im pretty sure that blacklist makes it so that the nodes do not kick clients off the network when they go below a certain single strength forcing the client to reconnect
Having a device on the list means that the device will not get kicked it will just stay connected until you go out of range then swap over
This is good for ourdoor devices on the edge of the network they wont get repeatedly kicked cause they have a low signal strength
Thanks for all your great videos, analysis and advice. I recently needed to overhaul my home network and decided to go with Asus routers and AiMesh after watching several of your videos. They just explained things so well and made good logical comparisons. I am quite happy and soon will be adding a 2nd AiMesh node. Easy peazy!
I'm quite excited I got an Asus ax11000 and have just ordered two ax92U routers as nodes for the ax11000
Very helpful and informative, I have an Asus AI mesh setup at the moment and am about to add a new main router (RT-89AX). Thankyou for the info, I found it very useful!
Glad it helped, thanks!
Great video. I love the way you explain; clear, understandable, not much not less.
Thanks, glad you liked it 👍😀
Awesome, getting RT-AX86U soon too and will use my old RT-AC68U for AiMesh so this video will be helpful for me! XD
Glad this video was helpful for you and hope you enjoy your new router , thanks👍🙂
Yet another great WiFi video. Great, my friend!
Thanks so much 👍😀
It is surprising just how interesting this content is!
you Rock Sir.
Thanks so much 🙂👍
Hi Behfor. Long time since revisited your channel. I watched the last 4 videos you uploaded that I missed. Good job as always.
Hey buddy, miss you and hope all is well, thanks as always 😀👍
You Make Very Informative Video ....I Learn Alot From Your Videos .
Plz Make Explanatory Videos on Some Wifi Routers Features Like DMZ , UPnP ,Static Route like What Are Uses Of Them .
Thank You.
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It’s best to use tri band routers for wireless backhaul, as one band can be dedicated for the backhaul, leaving 2 bands for wireless
💛 your videos. Thanks for the info
Glad you like them! Thanks :-)
Always very well explained
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Great video, as always!
Thanks again!
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Great video as always!
Thanks, glad you liked it 👍😀
Very helpful, thank you.
You're very welcome 👍
Great Video. Very clear explanations.
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Subscribed and Waiting for testing video.
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Been using aimesh for a while and that roaming block list helped with my Nintendo wiiu that would jump between two nodes during game play. It will now lock onto one node and stay there. Before this online play was near impossible for me.
Bro. You are the BEST
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Great video
Thanks, glad you liked it 👍
I also have the AX86U and AC68U :)
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I removed my 2 RT-AC68U nodes from the AiMesh, having them connected to the RT-AX86U as regular APs.
Reason: in the AiMesh the wireless time schedule applies to the main router and all nodes, cannot set the time schedule for the individual nodes.
I only need the nodes to provide wireless signal in the evening, saves electricity.
How did you get the last version of aimesh? By updating firmware of the routers?
Yes, that's all you need to do! Thanks.
My AC86U as node's 2.4Ghz kept disconnecting the 2.4 Wifi client and mostly will be strangled them from connecting to Internet. However the 5Ghz interface on that AC86 node works perfectly!! I just hate to say the AC86U is completely flawed product with whatever the 2.4Ghz components they were using in the AC86U product lines!!! AX86U works perfect both 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz!
awsome videos
2.0? That’s more than 1.0, sounds very impressive.
It does :-)
Hello, what is the best AiMesh router without the money factor?
love your videos btw.
Tri-band routers are the best for mesh networking, (assuming you want to use wireless backhaul). Now based on my research in this video [ruclips.net/video/dM2dC9hZz-E/видео.html] the best Asus Tri-band router is currently the GT-AX11000, but it's just my opinion and please do your own research as well. Cheers!
Great advice - thanks. Does the wired etherent backhaul need to use specific ports on the rear? And if there are no spare ports (1-4) can you use a spare port on an external switch (provided that is connected to one of the ports 1-4 of course)?
Thanks. The Ethernet cable should be connected to the WAN port of the node and any LAN port on the main router. AiMesh was initially designed to require a direct connection, with no switch in between. I personally tried this back then and can confirm that if there is a switch, it doesn't work. However, it's been a while since then, and I'm not sure if this has changed. Thanks.
@@Behfor Thanks for that... Did you try any of the physical LAN ports on the Mesh Nodes in your experiments? I wonder if the LAN ports are active and usable on the mesh nodes.
How is the performance connecting to the main router vs the node? I recently got an RT-AX86U and have my old RT-AC68U like you do, but my concern is latency when gaming. I utilize Steam Link a lot but I'm worried if I were to connect to the node that the extra hop would create noticeable lag.
With a wired back haul …which is better
ZenWiFi et12 or buying 2 ROG rapture ax1600 and set up with Aimesh??
My brother, can you talk about bottlenecking in-terms or modem/router combinations. For example, potential bottlenecks from modem with a max speed mbps of 300 and a modem with a max mbps with a 2.5 gbps Ethernet port and combined theoretical wifi speeds of 11000 across the Triband and vice versa as applicable. This would make a good video I think for a lot as many are confused with regard to buying their own modem/router or gateway vs renting isp gateways
@7.48 - WiFi will get disconnected for couple of seconds and reconnects to the new AP. So it is still roaming since SSID is same name and password but not AP managed. Its a bad experience for the end user, to not use WLC or AP enabled roaming. However the feature is cool, as you the freedom to troubleshoot etc, I guess.
question i have a aimesh node set up.. but my devices always seem to connect to the main router instead of the aimesh.. why? is it cos of the imesh routher bing set up too near to the main one?
The Aimesh node and the AiMesh router should not be too close or too far from each other to have the best roaming experience.
This video might give you a better idea: ruclips.net/video/qusVMXQC9zU/видео.html
Thanks.
Nice video!
What are the pros/cons for setting up Node in AiMesh vs AP mode?
Specifically Ax11000(Primary router) and AX92U (Node) using Ethernet Backhaul
Thank You!!
AP out performs mesh mostly due to the boundry updates between the cells of each nodes in the mesh (this is also 3 demensional not just one story or one floor) but the hand off in mesh is seemless between nodes making the bandwidth look consistent ( if you move from room to you usualy have disconnect and reconnect to get better performance when not using mesh)
Thanks for this awesome video.
I had a question about AiMesh.
Suppose I have several AiMesh routers (Let all are RT-AX55) and I have a central router in our home (let it a Mikrotik one).
Can I use all the AiMesh routers as Access Point/AiMesh Router mode (not the Router/Aimesh Router mode) just connected to the central Mikrotik router and create an AiMesh system?
no mention of k/v/r/s standards?
Hello Behfor, is it possible to use a Raspberrypi(openwrt) as a Main Router and use the ethernet wire to connect all the 3 AC 86U as Access Point(Aimesh 2.0 function enabled), how to do this configuration?
I have 2 asus routers router RT-ax68u and a Ax3000 which router should I use as the main router and which to use as the node? Thanks
I want to use Aimesh, but doesn't it cut bandwidth in half when set to wireless backhaul the same as when using a repeater?
Thank you for your video, Behfor! Do you know if I can use my three Plume Adaptive Super Pods in bridge mode with the RT-AX86U? Currently, we have an Arris DG2470A cable modem feeding our three Plume pods. Would I use the Asus AI feature or simply let the Plume Pods config in bridge mode?
Thank you for this video. This may get me to try AImesh now that I have an AX86U and a AC86U. I have a wired setup that works well but I find that some of my devices like my Samsung S20 will stay connected to the repeater so I probably would really benefit from Aimesh.
You're very welcome and good luck 👍
Hi, out of curiosity how was your setup? I have roughly 70 devices on my network and wasn't sure if the non-OFDMA ac86u bottle necked the wifi-6. Is the new router only as good as the old one can be?
Most important question is if new updates fix or improve short disconnects, when switching providers in roaming
Just wondering why you used the more expensive RT-86U if you are just needing AiMesh extenders? Why not the RP-AX56/AX1800 WIFI 6 extenders?
So when your primary router is a wifi 6 router and the rest of the ai mesh network wifi 5, what happens to the wifi 6 router. Is it still running wifi 6 or does it go back to a wifi 5 mode for compatibility?
I would really like to know what happens because I am tempted to buy a wifi 6 router. But if it doesn't improve the speeds when it's ai mesh with a wifi 5 router there isn't much point buying a wifi 6 router.
Just recently change to Asus AiMesh ecosystem because of your video, it is easy and more flexible than others.
Here is one question which I can't find the answer anywhere.
Let's say Router A (RT-AX56U) as Main Router and Router B (RT-AC59U) as Node.
1st problem (not that important)
It seems like I must pair Router B via Wireless first, after pairing as node, then I can use it with wired.
It seems like I can't pair AiMesh with wired from the start, or I was doing something wrong?
2nd problem (the main problem)
While I can roam seamlessly with my main SSID, It seems like Guest SSID only appear on Router A.
I have made sure this by isolating the router from each others.
Is this the limit of my routers, or it is the limitation of AiMesh 2.0?
edit:
There are a list of supported device for guest network...
The devil is in the detail T.T
ZenWiFi: XT8(RT-AX95Q), XD4(RT-AX56U_XD4), CD6(RT-AC59_CD6)
GT series: GT-AX11000, GT-AC5300, GT-AC2900
RT series: RT-AX88U, RT-AX92U, RT-AX86U, RT-AX82U, RT-AX58U, TUF-AX3000, RT-AX56U, RT-AX55
RT series: RT-AC5300, RT-AC88U, RT-AC3100, RT-AC86U, RT-AC68U
I have yet to see this question or answer to this on the AiMesh solution. Can you utilize the Ethernet ports on the secondary node? So if your primary node is connected to your cable modem and the AiMesh is established wirelessly on either frequency to a secondary node; can you run an Ethernet cable from one of the one of the Ethernet ports on the secondary node to a non-wireless desktop, laptop, server or printer that has an Ethernet port for network connectivity?
Yes you can use the lan ports of the AiMesh node to connect wired devices to the network. Thanks.
@@Behfor Excellent, thank you for the quick response on this. I will definitely be picking up a new Asus router then.
Does anyone know how to turn down the transmit power of the system? Or, even better, individual nodes? I am running a pretty robust system with the AX-86U as the main hub, x2 AX3000s, x2 AX55s, and an AX56U as access points. This gives me perfect coverage over my property, but the neighbors (still under construction) will be fairly close. I walked nearly 6-7 lots away, apx 800 feet away from my house, and I still had connection to my network on the 5Ghz band, which is likely not going to be possible with more networks to interfere, but the distance is a problem. I do not want to lose the coverage I have within the yard and home, but need to limit the distance beyond the apx 35ft distance to each property line. Any suggestions? The internet has produced no information so far.
Thank you for the video.
I have a question: the main router support wifi6, while the two nodes support up to wifi5.
What happen when your phone supports wifi6, and connected to the AX86 over wifi6, and then you move to other room and now connected to AC68?
Hi, the phone which is WiFi6 is also backward compatible with WiFi5, so when it's connected to AX86 it's using WiFi6 and when it connects to AC68, its gonna be using WiFi 5. Thanks.
If I use a hardwire cable for the mesh backhaul, can I use the 5gHz-2 for routine device connections? Essentially giving me more 5gHz capability. ASUS tells me that 5-1 is for device connection and 5-2 is for backhaul. If you use a wire for the backhaul, seeesm like you have more 5gHz capability.
If you have tri-band routers and you want to use the 5 GHz-2 for clients you should check out this page:
www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1035140/
Thanks for the video !!! I have an ai mesh network with ac88u (router) and two ac68u (node's) with wired connection. The speed transfer between nodes or wired connection laptops to router or node's never up until 1GB (test with jperf ). Any idea ?
Can i use the 2.5 port on the back of the RT-ax86U to connect hard wire to node? thanks for video
Can the RT-AX86U be used with ASUS ZenWiFi AX Mini ? Thanks
I am getting my AX86U today to replace me AC68U(move to access point). Do you have any videos on if I can backhaul the 68U to the main router AND a switch? Making a LAN triangle?
I'm sorry but I didn't understand your question, what is a lan triangle exactly?
Is it possible to use ethernet splitter with a wifi extender to connect a desktop pc
your primary router is 'AX' (WiFi 6), your nodes are 'AC' (WiFi 5). So will WiFi 6 devices have problems during roaming?
Good question! That'll be something for the AiMesh 2.0 testing video, thanks.
Question: How do you reduce wifi strength of ASUS RT-Ax56U to confine it to a room?
You can try the Tx power adjustment which is under the Wireless -> Professional menu!
I have a Asus Router with AI Mesh.. what is the cheapest Asus Router which supports AI mesh ... Coz i want to use it as a repeater.. Thanks in advance..
Hello, I currently have the highest baud rate from comcast I have2 Asus ZenWifi AX6000 nodes, I have one Asus node connected to my comcast modem(wired) and one is up in my bonus room, (wifi) which is on the opposite side of the house I am unable to get my wifi Samsung tv to work in my bonus room with out being pixelated should I purchase another node or should I purchase the ASUS WiFi 6 Router (RT-AX3000) - Dual Band Gigabit Wireless Internet Router. thank you in advance
there is no baud rates with comcast only mega bits
Thank you for the video Before. I have a question can the node broadcast its own SSID even though it gets the internet from the main router WIFI SSID? Thank you
If you connected the second router as Node for AI Mesh, you won’t be able to change its SSID because it will copy whatever SSID and Security you have set in Main AiMesh Router.
Hi Behfor, thanks for the video.
Can you still use the ethernet ports on the nodes even if you're using a wireless backhaul connection?
I'm planning to connect a VoIP phone in the node but want to make sure this will work before I get a node.
Hi, in an AiMesh system you can use the LAN ports of the nodes to connect wired devices and it doesn't matter what type of backhaul connection you are using. Thanks.
@@Behfor Thank you, keep up the good work!
@@Behfor does that apply to other things as well??
Can you plug a Hardrive into a node and run an ftp server on it?
Can you plug in a 4g Modem and use it as the fall back etc...??
It seems like a waste having a fairly powerful router just being a wifi node..
If my main router is already in AP mode is it possible to use AImesh 2.0 still?
I haven't tried it yet but I think it should be ok, I don't see any reason why not!
still missing radio off/on by scheduler for each mesh nodes
With choosing Ap uplink, does that decide who is the main node?
I wouldn't call it a main node because it doesn't do anything particularly more significant than other nodes! Besides if I have 4 nodes for example then I can have 2 different main nodes, which doesn't make sense! It's just a node that was manually set as the next hop for the node in the kitchen (in this example). Thanks.
What's the optimal configuration for wi-fi backhaul? I don't want to extend wi-fi, just use it on the secondary router to remotely connect ethernet cables to PCs down in the dungeon. Just go with WDS or... ?
wired backhaul is optimal however you might want let the mesh own the connection to the internet and make everything connect wireless so that you will not see the mesh traffic doing backhaul on the lan
I'm planning on getting Philips Hue in my house. Do you know if you can connect the Hue Bridge to the node, or if it has to be connected to the primary router?
I have very limited space where my primary is located, so connecting the bridge to the node would help a lot.
see if you can hardwire the wan port of your mesh router to the hue gateway and that should be optimal
I have setup two Asus RT AC5300 routers in a mesh (2.0) running Asuswrt-Merlin at 386.2_4. I had to call in Charter Spectrum on a performance issue (it was wiring outside the house). When the repairman connected his pc to the ethernet port on the modem, he registered a download speed of 225Mb/sec. I took my laptop and hooked it up as well and also got 225Mb/sec. However, when I connected wirelessly, the best I could get was 65Mb/sec. Routers have the very latest firmware, but the performance is around one third of what it used to be. How can that be? Will be researching to find better throughput. Hope someone has a good idea.
I’m going to guess that when connected wirelessly your device connected with 2.4GHz which is slower than 5GHz (but it has better range than 5GHz). Ethernet is almost always going to be faster than wireless, so a dip is expected because there’s more overhead for the devices to deal with.
@@ClAddict Nope, Asus router shows it was connected to the 5G-1 band. The technician had also asked me that and the network map provided the info on which band a device is connected to.
I would try different channels and test again, it could be you are using the same channel as a neighbor or something.
@@Behfor Actually, that is a great suggestion. For the 2.4 band, all channels are pretty congested with 1, 6, and 11 being pretty heavily used (including me). On the 5 band, I saw that 48 was available so I chose it and no competition and 161 available and only one other person on it so I chose those two. Unfortunately, by best speed on wifi was around 65-70 while on my desktop which has an ethernet connection (to the router, not the modem) the speed was 81. However, one puzzling thing. When I first tested wifi after making changes on the router, the download speed was 181 Mb/sec. But oddly, subsequent tests showed only about 70. Will keep plugging.
SUCCESS!!! You pointed me in the right direction! After looking at channel usage on the 5G bands, I added two channels I had not used. I am now able to download at 170-180Mb/sec consistently rather than the 65-70 prior to my change.
2 > 1, thus AiMesh 2 > AiMesh 1
Also, are there any situations where an Ethernet backhaul is actually worse than a wireless one?
2>1 lol, I'm gonna have to agree :-)
If you use a CAT5 Ethernet cable (100 Mbps) for backhaul, then most likely any 5 GHz backhaul would be better than that. Even if you use a good cable (1 Gbps), at least on paper you can get faster wireless backhaul speeds than that , but that'll depend on many factors such as the router, the distance, the number of clients connected to each node and etc. In real world though, a wired backhaul almost always gives you better results, because you don't have to rely on those many factors which any of them could significantly impact the backhaul quality. I hope that makes sense, thanks.
@@Behfor I was going to say that it would have to be a very long run for the router to drop to 100 mbps, but that would still be better because at that distance omnidirectional wifi doesn't stand a chance. My house is full of cat5 happily running @ 1G. BUT the router was always happier if I don't change any settings after adding the nodes.
Wired backhaul mesh?
Not sure what you mean, but in an AiMesh system you can use wired backhaul, thanks.
Which model of Asus supports Aimesh node at low price?
You can find the list of Aimesh routers here: www.asus.com/networking-iot-servers/whole-home-mesh-wifi-system/aimesh-wifi-routers-and-systems/filter?Series=AiMesh-WiFi-Routers-and-Systems
my issue is that my node will not give out 5Ghz singnal anymore at times for no reason (ethernet cat6 backhaul is on) so the node is only giving out slow 2.4ghz. only fix is reconnect node to reouter. very annoying
Do you have guest network enabled?
As that is giving all kinds of different problems.
@@RichardErkens nope. As guest networks have really brokem thkngs up. Ended up usikg old routers for guest network
@@UbixQ after finding out that the guest network caused problems did you just disable it or also factory reset.
As without a factory reset with erasing everything it will be causing problems.
This is for all the connected routers..
What is your setup?
I have rt-ac86 as main and a couple of rt-ac68 as nodes.
@@RichardErkens i did factory reser both routers like a week ago. Have not used guesr in a while. I have RT AX 92U as main and Rt ax 56u as node
@@UbixQ did you try to Assign different names to SSIDs on the 2GHz and 5GHz bands and then use only the 5GHz band for connecting.
So disable smart connect.
Do they have the latest firmware?
Did you try different 5GHz Channel bandwidth?
For the rest I'm out of ideas, sorry.
Hi and thank you for your amazing videos..
Please keep it going for us all.
I have a question..
I am currently running a ax58u 3000 router as my main one and it's great but I have just purchased a ax86u 5700 and want to make this my main router using the mesh system..
How do I make the 86u my main router without having to reset everything and start again ?
Is there a way to add it to the system and then make it the main router and then switch the 58u to a mode ?
Or add it as a mode and then switch it to be main router ?
Can this be done ?
Can anyone help with this ?
Many thanks
Hi, As far as I know what you are trying to do is not possible. However you don't have to reset everything! Just configure the new router the same as the old one, replace your old router with it and connect the old one as a node! It's a 15min job I guess.
You might even be able to save the old router's config file and upload it to the new router, but since they are not identical routers I can't recommend it.
does ping speed and internet speed the same?
Well, the same compared to what exactly?! Those things you mentioned can be impacted by tons of factors (including: interference, channel utilization, distance, obstacles, noise and etc) even if you test now and then again in 10 seconds you can get different numbers because of a million factors. Long story short, wireless is very complicated you can never expect certain numbers therefor no AiMesh 2 or even 3 can promise to give you better "ping speed and internet speed". It'll always depend.
Do all asus routers support the aimesh 2.0? Or is it just a software/firmware update?