And now please Stargate SG-1 (only 213 episodes and 2 movies) and the Stargate Atlantis (only 99 episodes). Its super easy, barely an inconvenience 😂🤣But seriously, its great and well worth it and i'm already seriously considering to rewatch it when i'm done with my Dexter rewatch 🤔
@@Luzarioth I meant Ark of Truth and Continuum, which are the others ? Not counting this one of course. For Universe .. i don't know, its not bad, but i never really felt the need to watch it a second time. One reason maybe its that it was too early canceled, but also there was just too much drama in it for my taste. Kinda like O.C. California in space.
@@beldin2987 I know what you mean, there was ALOT of manufactured drama, felt like some of the early episodes of the Battlestar reboot. I enjoyed the concept and some of the characters, but it stresses you out to watch because people seem to make choices based on how much drama it'll create.
The stars shifting over time is explained in the beginning of Stargate SG-1. They can get to the other stargate in the movie because it's the closest one and the stars haven't shifted enough yet. In the series they try conecting to other gates further away but it doesn't work until they figure out how to adjust for the stars moving over time.
which is a retcon because in the movie they go to different galaxy while in the show its all milky way (including the planet from the movie) and traveling to different galaxy shows up much later in the series
yep, stardrift and why it works in this instance after 10,000 years is well explained, but he does have a point... constellations are quite large and a fairly imprecise way of pinpointing anything. But he concept is great, so am happy to roll with it. Thinking about it, pulsars would have been a better option, but that would be hard to translate to screen for the ah-ha moment
SG1 is my favourite example of how you can take an idea and characters and lore from a movie and transform it into something bigger, something more fleshed out, with more character work and yet still feel the spirit of the original. SG1 is such a comfort show for me, it's warm and cozy but still manages to have some good morality takes on the implications of interacting with other cultures. They absolutely crushed having an idea of what else this idea could become in an episodic nature.
Kurt Russell's arc is about a man recovering from suicidal depression after losing his son to a firearms accident. This was actually seminal stuff in the 90s.
Jack O'Neill arc is very interesting in overall, when thinkin where it went after all this, meaning mainly the SG-1 series. Not saying any details, so no spoilers to anyone who haven't seen the serie, but everytime I watch this movie, I wan't to watch the serie all over again 😂
and she has green eyes, not blue. Among Egyptians green eyes are not uncommon, nor is fairly light skin. Apparently, there were ancient Egyptians with natural blonde or red hair. The Mediterranean peoples interbred for thousands of years. Lighter skinned peoples like the Greeks and Hittites would have contributed genes to the pool.
@@GeraldTodd-r4z Absolutely loved FireFly, and Serenity. But the series (14 episodes) was unfortunately *cut* short, so it could not fully explore the overarching story.
actual linguists have reacted to this movie and said its pretty accurate for an expert to be able to quickly learn the variations in a language that would have evolved seperately, it would literally just come down to learning the vowels, unless the language was so drastically different. but the thing is that the abydonians(egyptians who are on this planet) have stagnated they have not been allowed to evolve much. so it would take a few days for him to learn the langauge, there is also a group of youtubers who make videos where they literally learn a brand new langauge in a week
Ancient Egyptian was a Semitic language. The pronunciation used when people read it is normally based on Coptic or Arabic. It's not that hard to change the pronunciation of a consonant or two and shift vowels.
With Michael Shanks playing Daniel Jackson, you KINDA get your Michael Jackson. Also, here's a vote for you guys doing Stargate SG-1. It fucking rocks. Richard Dead Anderson (MacGuyver), Michael Shanks, Amanda Tapping (best fightin' scientist ever) and the ever awesome Christopher Judge (Voice of Kratos).
Sha'uri is played by Mili Avital (Hebrew: מילי אביטל; born March 30, 1972) is an Israeli-American actress. She built an international career, starting in her native Israel, starring on stage, film and television. She won the Israeli Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress in 1991, moved to New York in 1993 to study theatre in English, was discovered by an agent while working in a restaurant, and started acting in Hollywood almost immediately. She has maintained her career in both countries since.
To put it simply, seeing different constellations from a different place on Earth (such as Australia vs North America) is like looking outside of your house from different windows - the mountains on the horizon aren't perceptibly different in relation to each other. The stars that make up constellations are far away. Very very fricking far away in comparison to any distance you could move around on earth.
To be fair, in the movie, they set it up that the gate basically ONLY goes to that one planet and that Ra is the last of his kind. So it does come off as one-and-done narrative. The show retconned a lot of things about the movie, generally for the better.
The premise of the show is that the events of the movie created a power vacuum among Ra's species and made Earth a major target. Also, as you can imagine given the design of the Stargate, it connects to more than one planet. The show is top tier scifi; you should watch it.
@@arizona_anime_fan They weren't shitting on the film. The biggest "complaints" were just them trying to figure out how things would actually work. And for that, the show's a lot better than the movie.
These two are very patronizing in a very ignorant way. Everything is outdated to them and nothing meets up with their snob expectations and brainwashed idealisms of what things "should" be.
there was also the amusement that for their first try, then used too much pressure and emptied the pool/tank they were recording, and it only took a tiny pressure blast for the effect
SG-1 is definitely worth watching. The show not only explains and expands the world but also quickly answers many of the questions you had. Regarding cats and constellations: you're partly right about the constellations. While they do move, this happens over an extremely long timeframe-taking at least 50,000 years to look different and up to 400,000 years for significant changes. As for the Stargates, they do have different symbols on them depending on the planet. Some symbols overlap, depending on the planet's location relative to Earth, but the 'point of origin' symbol is unique to each gate. The symbols on the gates represent constellations as seen from somewhere on the planet, typically from the hemisphere where the gate was constructed. This means that moving the gate between hemispheres wouldn't affect its function, even if the depicted constellations aren't visible from its new location. As for domestic cats, they are much older than Ancient Egypt, and the cats in Egypt were essentially like the cats we know today. The Egyptian Mau is a breed that is thought to date back to that time, and Abyssinians resemble the cats depicted in ancient Egyptian art.
There is an argument to be made that cats were never really domesticated. It may be that the cats decided to cohabitate with humans... without being invited.
@@sheldoninexile I do too, but Universe was more about being a teen soap opera than about spaceships. It just so happens that they were living on one. It didn't really feel connected to Stargate either and I didn't really see any overarching plot going anywhere. It was all just about the stupid drama shit on the ship between characters I did not care for at all. Edit: No idea how it went form Stargate to Star Wars. lol
@@Dark__Thoughts True. I was just able to tune that out. So I guess my review for Universe would be if you like ships and space shit enough to tune out most of the show its worth a watch.
"over ten-thousand years those stars would have moved ten-thousand light years from each others" Ummm... are you implying that stars move at the speed of light?!?
En tout cas il a raison sur ce point. Prendre des constellations (formations composées d'étoiles très distantes les unes des autres et en mouvement permanent) est d'un ridicule sans nom. Dans quelques milliers d'années notre ciel sera très différent du ciel actuel. Prendre ces constellations comme référentiel sur une grande durée n'a aucun sens.
@@christophe2092 My comment was on SPECIFICALLY stars moving 10,000 LY in 10.000 years. That is the only point being discussed here. How in any way is this correct?!? Are YOU claiming stars move at the speed of light?!? In any case, regarding specifically the constellations... I'm not sure just how different they would be. There would be be some variation, for sure, especially since some stars have more angular speed (not the be confused with relative speed) than others. I know Polaris moves at a good speed, and was not always the north star, but other stars may have smaller rates of change. I mean, it takes us 230,000,000 years to orbit the milky way For all we know, maybe the symbol auto-update. We update our maps or runway numbers as time goes by.
@@PsychoMuffinSDM je ne reviens pas sur cette histoire de vitesse sur laquelle tu bloques, il est évident que les étoiles de notre galaxie ne se déplacent pas à la vitesse de la lumière. C'est cette histoire de constellations sur laquelle je bloque. Une constellation c'est une représentation bidimensionnelle d'une réalité tridimensionnelle. Il est évident qu'en 10000 ans le ciel change. Pour t'en convaincre tape sur Google "ciel étoilé hémisphère nord/sud il y a 10000 ans" et compare à l'actuel...
This is Roland Emmerich's best film by far. The constellation thing isn't describing a set point in space or a specific star. The combination of constellations in the correct order provide an "address" for the location of a gate. When you dial the address, you're saying, "I want to go to the gate associated with this address." If you live at 123 XYZ Street, and then there's an earthquake that shifts your house 200 feet away from its original location, the mailman can still find you because you still live at the same address despite the fact that the physical location has moved. Side note, the locals think these guys are Neteru, which would be like calling the Greek gods, "Olympians," but to then include all of the divine entities of Greek mythology in the term, not just the main pantheon. In this case, Neteru tended to be the divine powers that involved themselves with humanity on a regular basis. This is a common theme in human mythology. For example, Coyote from North America, Smoking Mirror from South America, Loki from Scandanavia, Lugh from Ireland, or Set from Egypt would all be considered Neteru by the Egyptians. There is even a fairly decent theory that Smoking Mirror and Set are the same person, as are Quetzalcoatl from South America and Horus from Egypt. Don't know if that's correct or not, but I know that Horus and Set sort of disappear from Egypt after a huge battle, then Quetzalcoatl and Smoking Mirror appear in South American mythology. The two then battle it out before disappearing...only for Horus and Set to reappear in Egyptian mythology to finish their war. Probably coincidence, but its still very interesting. Also, when they say this location is on the other side of the known universe, it doesn't mean on the other side of the actual universe. Because of the vast distances involved, we can only see a tiny portion of the actual universe. Its like a vision bubble centered on our planet that extends outward as far as we can see (not very far) and is moving with the Earth as the point of reference. So, basically, the gate location is somewhere close to the furthest extent we can currently see, which actually means its fairly close to us on a cosmological scale. "Stargate: SG1" follows the events of the film. Jackson and the locals bury the gate on their side, and the entire operation gets mothballed on the Earth side. One day the gate suddenly opens, and more bad guys come through, stealing one of the soldiers who is part of the skeleton crew assigned to guard it. This is how they discover that there is more than one gate, and that the aliens (the Goa'uld and their Jaffa soldiers) are actually quite numerous and Ra was just one of these things. The Goa'uld are these parasites that look like snakes, and they invade a host, taking it over. Whatever form they appear in is just the host, the actual Goa'uld is inside, wrapped around their spinal cord. The Jaffa are humans which have been bred and trained as both soldiers and literal incubators for Goa'uld young. They all have a surgically created pouch in their chest where a single Goa'uld larva grows to maturity over the course of a couple of decades. Once its ready, it is removed from the pouch and introduced to its new host, which it will invade and take over. The host remains somewhat conscious and aware, but unable to control its own body and is forced to simply witness all the crazy shit the Goa'uld controlling it does. Later seasons of the show give us a new character that was once a host but got free somehow (I don't remember how) and she is forever haunted by the things "she" did when the parasite controlled her. The universe is full of humans who have been placed wherever they are by their Goa'uld masters to serve as a labor force and source of new Jaffa (there are also Jaffa females, so the Jaffa breed as well.) If I remember this correctly, it turns out that most humans in the universe didn't originally come from Earth, because our planet isn't actually "our" planet, but a colony created 10,000 years ago by the Ancients...an advanced human civilization that evolved somewhere else. The Ancients are the source of our legends regarding Atlantis. Most of the gods of our mythology are actually based on our memories of the Goa'uld or their enemies, the Asgard (the source of both Norse legend and Area 51 "Gray" aliens.) It sounds silly when I type it out like that, but the show(s) make it work out just fine...although its odd how almost every habitable world in the known universe looks oddly like an abandoned quarry in British Columbia. The "SG1" moniker is the name of the primary Stargate team, but there are more than 20 of them if I recall. Some of them are similar to SG1 but others are more specialized. For example, one of the teams is more like a platoon of specially trained Marines who act as like an emergency response unit. Jackson and O'Neill both reappear as core members of SG1, although they are played by different actors (Richard Dean Anderson as O'Neill and Michael Shanks as Jackson.) Each episode involves traveling through the gate to some new planet and getting into various sticky situations dealing with Goa'uld, then the Replicators, and finally the Ori. The follow on show, "Atlantis" gives us a new cast and a new enemy in the form of the Wraith, who are like soul vampires and generally suck major bawls. SG1's production values are a little low early on, and that can be discouraging if you try to watch it. However, they work out the kinks as time goes on and do a really good job with the story and an enhanced budget. Some of the episodes are absolutely top notch, like one where they are in a ship that is about to get hit with a blast from an Ori battleship (this would be a one shot kill) but they use this experimental technology that slows time to a crawl, preventing the impact. They're trapped though, and we get to see everyone live on the ship for like 20 plus years, aging and forming relationships and so forth as the Ori blast inches closer and closer year by year. There is another episode where this television/movie writer knows the truth about the Stargate project and wrangles himself permission to write a television show based on the SG1 team. The military gets to oversee the TV show, in order to prevent the guy from spilling any real secrets. The episode gives us the SG1 team sitting in a conference room with the writer, talking about the script, and each member of the team attempts to make their own contribution (the TV characters are all based on the real team members.) Each person tends to envision the show to their own benefit, making themselves look like heroes to great comedic effect. When they then try to use their actual missions as the source for the script, the writer says that none of that is believable so he'll just make something up. In the end, it turned out to be a damned good show and well worth the watch, as are the two follow on series. Also, Stargate: Atlantis was (as far as I know) Jason Momoa's first regular acting gig, where he essentially plays himself, like usual.
SG1 was great fun. The premise is we swap Kurt for Macgyver and run adventure of the week through a galaxy of chaos because we killed the big "god" that was keeping the other "gods" in line. Atlantis decided it was going to be whacky action sequences whilst we had big conversations about morality... and then I missed the other later shows. It was fun watching through this original movie again with the two of you!
If you don't watch the series, I think you should the watch The Children of the Gods cut of the double length pilot of Stargate SG1. Its kind of a soft reboot continuation of the movie.
So during the SG-1 series they actually address the issue of stellar drift. It’s explained that one of the biggest problems with the Earth gate is that they don’t have a “dial home device.” An extremely advanced computer that is able to dial any other gate while compensating for stellar drift and also other “problems” (like maybe you shouldn’t open a wormhole that punches through the middle of a star 😉). They had to build their own dialing computer that could only rudimentarily do what the DHD did effortlessly (they even manually spin the ring on the Stargate to “dial”). Also, not sure if you caught it but the big breakthrough was understanding the “origin symbol.” Which explains why you can use constellations. They’re based on a map from a point of origin.
My understanding is that the important part of the description is that the 7 symbols X/Y/Z axis out specific gates from the list; while also pointing at specific Cosmic addresses; based off where your traveling from. The Gates were placed in specific locations to make use of specific space stuff in mind to locate origin and destination accurately enough to be within W amount of time of being placed. I mean can you imagine the calculating power of the alien tech to reach such abilities. They must of been able to predict drift well enough to program in a range of location into the mix.
The Stargate has been described as one of the best story telling devices ever. Every week you are just one step through the gate to whatever story you want to tell.
Nuclear weapons (atomic bombs) are incredibly stable as long as the components do not achieve critical mass, which requires a very specific type of explosion around the plutonium core. Shooting it may wreck the wiring; however, it is improbable to actually set the bomb off.
I mean, it's technically a prequel to the TV series, since it takes place before the series, but you're right that the show was made after the movie and it was based on the movie.
Humans find a way to instantaneously travel through the universe and you can’t see how to make a show from that? But seriously, Stargate SG-1 and the spin-offs were really fun. I get that it’s a bit much to react to but I would totally be up for that.
Your "use constellations for navigation" question is answered in the show. LOL! As soon as the gate opened all questions of "how's this shit work" went away. Now imagine that scene in a dark theater. Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin had a whole trilogy ready to go. Most of your "how does that work" questions would have been answered. The TV show used some of those answers and changed others massively. Sounds to me like you two are seriously talking yourselves into watch the show. I'd absolutely be there for it.
yeah - I'm gonna subscribe to this channel in hope that you watch at least first episode of SG-1. I watched all episodes of all Stargete SG-1, Atlantis, Universe, all movies and also those miniseries that came out later. I watched everyhing at least twice!! Btw... There is some serious talk about rebooting Stargate series next year - I can't wait!! =)
To answer the question "is Stargate SG-1 good? 1:11:35" Yes! It is! Definitely a commitment to watch it all. I just rewatched it with some friends who had never seen it - meeting up twice a week to watch it in small batches it took us almost 9 months.
The constellations would move, but 10,000 years isn't a very long time astronomically. It would take more like 100,000 -200,000 for a more noticeable change in a constellations pattern.
"in the last 10 thousand years, all of those stars have moved 10 thousand light years from each other". no. stars do not move at light speed. unless they are very close to a super-massive black hole, they don't even travel at a significant percentage of light speed. @pokeycantdance has the right idea, but it gets a little tricky when you add perspective. many stars are just moving away, so they just get dimmer extremely slowly and don't appear to move much at all. typically, the closer a star is to your location, the more it will appear to radially move with respect to the background of "slower" more distant stars, over time. nearby stars will move slightly in just a few thousand years, but many stars require millions of years. one simple example is the stars of Corona Borealis. two of it's seven brightest (as seen from Earth) stars are moving much faster, with respect to the other five, and from our perspective they even "appear" to be heading right for one another. in a few thousand years, as seen from Earth, the constellation will look exactly as it does now, with the exception that two of the stars will appear to have changed places with each other. that's not at all what is happening, but it is what it will look like from Earth. I won't go into all the different types of stellar movement, which includes bouncing up and down as they orbit the center of spiral galaxies, or the fact that as our planet spins it wobbles in a process we call the precession of the equinoxes. the short answer is that every star you can see is not only in the Milky Way Galaxy, it's in our tiny part of the galaxy. astronomical distances are enormous. it is complicated, but stars simply do not appear to move (with respect to each other) very fast. the distances are so mind-bogglingly vast, that stars do not move in centuries, and almost none move in millennia--most stars take eons. for example, the closest star to our sun is traveling away from us at over 17 km every second. light travels 300,000 km every second, which is 17 and a half thousand times faster. so, currently Alpha Centauri is moving away from us at about 0.006% of the speed of light. if you're a big enough nerd that you're still reading, that means that Alpha Centauri is moving away from us with great speed--17 km/s is over 60,000 km/hour! it's about 4.3 light years away from us, so it takes light 4.3 years to reach us, which means that when we look at it, we are seeing what it looked like 4.3 years ago, and it has actually moved 2.3 billion km farther away from us in that time--indeed, it is possible that the star was destroyed during those 4 years and it doesn't even currently exist, but we still see it exactly as it was, 4.3 years ago. However, with all that speed, it's still only 6 THOUSANDTHS OF ONE PERCENT of the speed of light, and very little of that is radial movement. so, have any constellations changed in the last thousand years? yes, every one of them! would you notice the difference? almost none of it.
@@jsbrads1 I assume you're referring to the fact that Polaris will no longer be "the North Star" in a few more thousand years? If so, then that's due to Earth's axis of rotation wobbling about (precession, it's called), and has nothing to do with the motion of the stars in the Little Dipper constellation.
@@MagsonDare I did not know about the North Star moving, I was referring to the dipper that has the bent handle and it used to be straighter a few thousand (?) years ago. So the stars inside that constellation moved in the recent past, or maybe it was just our perspective from Earth? Either way, it changed. And I also heard about a star in the Pleiades that used be far enough from another star that we could see them as two separate stars with the unaided eye thousands (?) of years ago, but now two of the stars in the constellation are so close together that they appear as one star to the unaided eye.
Speaking other languages is Daniel Jackson's entire schtick. He's also a total screaming genius, but specifically languages are his jam. With all the fictional science in this science fiction movie, Jackson figuring out how to speak space-Egyptian is one of the most realistic parts.
you forgot getting high on power, like the time he married a princess, became ruler of a kingdom and got messed up by the goauld sarcophagus he was resting on... or the time he ascended to heaven with the ancients only to be kicked out after just one season !!!!
They address a lot of those drift problems in the first episode by explaining “of course! A civilization this advanced would obviously make a device that could predict 10,000 years of stellar drift.”
you have to understand, you've hit a nest of superfans - they will give you the season and episode your questions will be answered We were all sad when we heard there is no S11 - but SGA & SGU kept it going
Nuclear missiles also use star charts as part of their navigation. And yes, SG-1 is well worth it (one of those shows which gets continually better each subsequent season)
Stargate SG-1 is one of the most consistently entertaining science fiction series. It doesn't reach the highs of some science fiction series but it certainly doesn't reach the lows a lot of science fiction shows become. The cast ensemble is extremely likeable. SG-1 writers had to retcon some things but all the changes made logical sense.
I think it does reach the height of highs. It's just too complicated for most people, and the anti religious nature of it turns off a lot of severely religious Americans. I mean the Orai, the most invincible of all bad guys, the relentless Replicators, even the Goauld are a truly horrifying form of enemy, but also cool with their complex cold blooded culture. And the super creative and intelligent ways they are defeated is unequaled by any other sci fy.
@@Metal0sopher have to hard agree. The stuff you mentioned is cool but doesn't reach "The Expanse", "BSG", "Severance", "Star Trek: DS9", "Person of Interest", "Babylon 5" level of highs in the writing. The writing in the high peaks of those series is all time great science fiction. Stargate SG-1 wasn't complicated at all to get. It's one of the reasons why it's one of the more consistently entertaining and long-lasting series. People who don't like science fiction love this series like my grandmother did. SG-1 like Dr. Who if Dr. Who was consistently a good series.
And arrogantly ignorant some of the time. Whether it's just their youtube persona or not, I'm not a fan of overly judgey statements when one assumes they know, but don't - it's why I can only take these two in small doses.
The tv show is actually better thought out and fleshed out, they come up with various rules of how the Stargate works and how it interacts with things as well.
To let you know Stargate SG-1 was phenomenal. I have never known a person that was introduced and started it and didn’t immediately fall in love with it.
I was just about to say the same thing! Abados is the closest gate to Earth so the drift was less and they were able to connect. They "compensate for stellar drift" in the first ep to be able to reach other gates.
Yes, we had answering machines in the ‘90s. But I’m not sure they want to leave a message saying “we need you to report to base and take control of our top secret project”.
SG-1 was produced with the cooperation and support of the US Air Force. This includes footage of the entrance to Cheyenne Mountain and a Camino or two of an actual USAF General. There’s also a great story about a real sign on a door saying “Stargate Command”. It is in fact a real broom closet in NORAD! 😂
Exactly! The "constellations" aren't used in the dialing, they're the symbol of the planet you're using as triangulation. Earth's symbol isn't a constellation (that we're familiar with......) it's just the symbol for earth. The right symbols in the right order connect you to a specific location.
It's funny in some movies how people think no one in a movie or show could be lying. In this case, these people painted their history onto walls over 2,000 years ago. We have specialists that piece together history from back then bit by bit. It gets even harder if the people back then were wrong about something, misrepresented things or outright lied. Again, in this case, Ra wasn't the only alien and you don't need a detailed dialling system if you use only one number. Stargate SG-1's first season starts slow, but the show picks up a lot in season 2 and later. Stargate Atlantis begins in SG-1 and spins off into it's own show. About constellations, you are thinking about the night sky, which is different wherever you are on earth so yes, the constellations you can see are different. However the coordinates of the stars that make up the constellations in space are always the same, with a slight drift over thousands and millions of years.
They never left our galaxy. The constellations are just like, markers. The universe is expanding at the same rate, so those markers will work, regardless of 10,000 years.
In the first 20 minutes all is explained in episode one of Stargate-SG1 episode 1. Every question asked is answered in the series give it a go it's really interesting.
The Constellations act as cartographic symbols. Your lines are drawn from the hypothetical "center" of one to another to form your line. Three lines (using six constellations) designate a point in space to which you are connecting a wormhole from your own location (the seventh symbol). The "symbols" address an individual stargate that connects the wormhole.
Yes, I was going to type mainly what you said as well. Just think of the constellations as symbols unique to each planet, and each stargate has different constellations (symbols) in their sky. Therefore the symbols on each gate are different from each other gate.
Daniel is an archeologist and more importantly a linguist. It wouldn't be so hard for him to figure out the dialect they are speaking. That's literally his job. 😅
You start with the movie and the you start watching Stargate SG-1. EASY. I would love to watch you two react to the series. SG1 is probably my favorite sci-fi show. It's just fun.
So if you do an episoide a day every day of all the Stargate episoides, you could easily finish in a year. Maybe. I would be down to see you guys every day for the next year! And you can't just watch just the one series. They mix plot points and episoides into the other series that also start up, so unless you watch them with the other shows at the same time as they aired, you will have problems. You need to follow the correct watch order with all the Stargate shows together.
There were domesticated cats 10,000 years ago. We found a. 9,500-year-old domesticated cat in Cyprus, which could only have gotten there if it or its ancestors traveled on human ships. The ancestor of modern cats is the Egypt African wildcat, which is almost identical in appearance to certain domesticated breeds. Smallpox would have been a non-issue. Smallpox was effectively eradicated around 1980 because of inoculations. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of other fun diseases to die from, such as the common cold, influenza, or a host of stomach bugs?
In 94 we all had answering machines. Folks started using them in the 70s. By the late 70s, they were cheap and common. They just didn't want to call him. They did it in person, to demonstrate that this was not a joke. That it was serious business.
13:10 Creating a real map of the Milky Way Galaxy, let alone the Universe like the one seen in in this movie, with star constellations and specific points to travel, it would be a complex task, as the Milky Way is vast, containing billions of stars, planets, and other celestial objects. However, it can be done. Accurately in both position and scale is challenging, but not impossible, and for type 1 and above civilization it's very easy. You need to: Identify Key Points Gather Astronomical Data Choose a Mapping Format Plot Star Positions Highlight Regions of Interest Add Artistic Elements Challenges, (but not impossible for advanced civilizations): Scale and Accuracy Perspective and Depth Data Volume
The stars you can see DO change based on your latitude. The further north you are, the more you can see stars around Polaris. The further south you are, the more you see stars around the southern celestial pole.
as someone who worked with big cats and has house cats i have to say that house cats are not domesticated they are just small and we are bigger than them and give then food lol you can set a house cat free and it will survive just fine out doors like the murder machine it and its bigger cousins are
1:02:29 YES Please!! 1:11:28 Personally, I think it's great! but watch the pilot at least and get a feel for it yourselves, your questions about what the show is and what happens with Jackson and Sha're, (And O'Niel recast to Richard Dean Anderson) will all be answered in the pilot. 1:13:58 You're both kinda right. what part of the night sky you can see from a certain point on earth is dependent on both your latitude and the season. but it's the same night sky all over the planet. Constellations do change over time, but 10000 years is ALMOST negligible in the cosmic sense (something they will explain in the series, kinda) - I believe as I said earlier that it would help to view the symbols on the stargate not as constellations but numbers. each depiction of a constellation is attributed a numerical value, this turns into a code that then forms the address to the gate in question, it's not literally the constellations that are the points to "triangulate" the destination 1:15:09 The star map is the same, only what part of "the dome" is visible changes
The TV Show is about expanding the mythology, retconning few things that wouldn't make sense later (like Abydos in TV Show is the nearest location with Stargate unlike in the movie where they say it's on the other side of the known universe) and answering ALL questions and nitpicks Nerdy had during this reaction... So now you have to watch it ;)
There's quite a few things they retconned from the movie (which are kinda spoilers so I'm not gonna list it here) but they're kinda essential in order to properly expand the franchise / universe and they did so very well imo. Like, the SG-1 and Atlantis are easily so much better than the movie.
On the subject of constellations raised at the beginning....you're thinking too small. You have to think on a cosmic scale. 10,000 years is barely a microsecond in the span of the universe. It would take hundreds of millions (if not billions) of years for stellar drift to change the shape of the various constellations used as part of the gate addresses.
This is what I was about to type. People tend to have a very small understanding of scale. When you get to distances in space we have to stop using miles and we have to start using astronomical units or the distance light travels in a year. Its too hard to comprehends. The Stargate shows may not be that accurate as we figure out things over time but its not far off. I used to celestial navigate on the open seas. Yes things move but they are so far away our relative angles to anything is very close to what it was 2000 years ago. The adjustments are so small you would still be in the ballpark. Scale of the galaxy is almost impossible to understand.
But what he was saying, and I really never thought of it, it's just how the constellations look from earth. And either the gate addresses for just earth are different from each planet, that doesn't make sense ^^ At least I always assumed that earth just has one address and that doesn't make sense with constellations..
Also, because people have been looking at the stars and recording the stuff they see for thousands of years, we have pretty decent records of the movements that have happened over the last 2000 or so years in the main constellations, and because math and physics, we can model much of the movement seen outside that period, too
@@AdmiralEisbaer That do make sense, actually. Earth's symbol is not a constillation. The 6 points to navigate are. Earth's stargate symbol is the 2 guy praying at the pyramid, that is what represent the gate's planet. That means different planets does have different symbols, representing the views of constillations from that angle but the symbol for the gate should be the same.
All those questions at the end are addressed in the show. Also, how did they move the inner ring to get back from the planet? Answered in the show. The shows, by the way, were all filmed in Canada ❤
You asked if you messed up early when you were thinking scientific logic. You messed up when you didn't realize this is a science fiction/fantasy movie. When you can't beleive the story line, go with the flow.
It's nice to know you finally saw that movie. The constellations would look the same 10000 years ago. You underestimate how slow stars move relative to the vastness of the space in between. Not to mention that all stars we see move along others around the center of the milky way. I wouldn't try to dissect science too deeply in those types of movies. I just enjoy the ride. :)
Fantastic! Very happy you watch this. Stargate is one of my top sci-fi franchises of all time. Regarding the constellations. They weren't used as precise locations for the Stargate but symbols for the language, used to represent the specific location found within the Stargates database. The science is fleshed out and corrected a bit in SG1, though it does still have some minor issue that need to be handwaved away. I understand that reacting to the entire Stargate franchise would be way too much. What I suggest is have your community vote and watch the top 5 episodes of each season. (you will need to watch the 2 part series premier to understand all the retcon that happens to make this series work) Most episodes are stand alone, similar to Star Trek: TNG. Though there is an underlying story that is slowly advanced, there are only a few episodes in the first few seasons that are 'must' watch in order to know the overall plots progress. The same is true for Stargate : Atlantis. FYI - Jason Momoa joined the cast in season 2, which I believe was his biggest/breakout role. It is hard to explain the TV show's plot without a lot of spoilers, but put simply, Ra was not alone. The show does take a while to find its feet, but once it does, the writing is superb.
Very disappointed to see you caught the "the coordinate system wouldn't work due to stellar motion" goof but didn't pull them up for "aliens exist" or "you can travel via a wormhole" or "an orchestra can be heard off screen playing music throughout the film", which were far more egregious. Seriously though, picking apart the goofy science needed to make a science fiction movie work bores me to tears.
You started in right place, next is Stargate SG1 season 1-7, after that if you want stuff to match up and make more sense watch SG1 s8-s10 alongside Atlantis s1-3, then Stargate: The Ark of Truth movie, then Atlantis s4, then Stargate: Continuum. Other series are ok to skip.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, the coordinate system isn't necessarily super precise, more than just that whatever Stargate happens to be in the general vicinity of where the three lines intersect is where the Earth gate will go. To be clear though, if there's not a gate in the vicinity of the intersect, the Earth gate won't "dial up". This is all to say, it's ok if the constellations shifted a little. SG-1 starts a year after the movie. I won't spoil the pilot plot, but ultimately it's like Doctor Who kinda :D The show is basically about the Air Force's "First Contact" team of the titular name, including Jackson, O'Neil, and two new characters exploring the Stargate system, going from world to world. (PS: O'Neil's character is completely different). SG- 1 is basically Star Trek without a ship. As for the spin-offs, I never really got into SG-Atlantis, though if you want to see where Jason Mamoa got his first small break AS AN ATLANTEAN, it's worth it for that. I also dug SG-Universe, but it was short-lived.
According to IMDB he didn't like the attention from Crying Game. When they asked him to do this movie he asked for what he thought was an absurd $1 Million.
The entire Stargate IP is absolutely worth watching. Its fun and serious and everything in between. My only recommendation to avoid spoilers is watch each series in the order of SG1 (Ark of Truth at the end of SG1) then Atlantis (with Continuum in-between season 4 and 5 though it is focused on SG1 characters) then Universe then Origins.
Another retcon in the show (spoiler alert!!!) is the appearance of the aliens that possess humans. Here, it appears to be similar to the standard Roswell Gray aliens... In the show, the Roswell Grays are the Asgard, and the bad aliens here, known as the Goa'uld, possess bodies. While it's not explicitly mentioned in the show, background information states that Ra possessed an Asgard at the end of a battle between the two, but because the Asgard do not make good hosts due to biological incompatibilities, Ra was in real danger of dying. Luckily for him (and unluckily for us), Ra discovered Earth and figured out that humans were a nearly perfect host.
I fail to see that much difference between the 90's and today to warrant the amount of age remarks you guys make. It's almost like how when someone starts insulting others as a self deflection of their own insecurities. Makes me think you're in denial about being old cause you both look like you're in your 30's. As if the answering machine is soooo old you have to think back to a time when your mom once told you a story of how her mother once had one lmao. I know people who still use them with a main house lan line. Hasn't been that long. Opening movie credits and music, they don't still do that? Cause idk, Joker instantly comes to mind and I'm pretty sure it had a similar format. But you guys talk about it like....Oh wow, I've never seen that before. How weird. Whhhhaaaa? They used record movies on playable discs??? In 4 years time...."Wow, that's so 20's when they had an actual person to take your order. That's crazy."
The last symbol in a dialing sequence is based on the planet of origin.... so it only has to hold info that is local like moons. like the Earth origin symbol is like a pyramid with our single moon over it. so it's fine that the Abydos home symbol isn't a constellation. I know that it sounds like a lot, but I would absolutely be here 100% for a TV show reaction.
The show is cool because of how they expand the lore regarding other mythological figures. The Egyptian style is exclusive to the this faction, but there are other deities like ancient Chinese, Mesoamerican and Norse, and some of them aren't even the same aliens as these ones!
Constellations don't matter. Just like the origin of the letter F doesn't matter. Just put the right sequence in. Don't over analyze a telephone. But SG-1 explains it.
Technically most stars in the visible night sky with the human eye are within 1,000 light years, most far closer, barely a blip of the total Milky Way galaxies total area. The only exceptions would be a handful of truly massive stars. But yeah, that does mean a lot of stellar drift, which does get addressed in the pilot episode of the tv show and is a big theme of the first few seasons. Basically they have to calculate the stellar drift to get to further away stars (so the planet in the movie is retconned to be in the same galaxy and basically right next door to earth). Anyways the actress brought in to play the scientist pushed hard to not be saying technobable but actual science. The producers thankfully agreed and brought in several scientists to help make it accurate to mid 90s to early 2000s science. A few facts have changed but they can't be held accountable for that as they did their absolute best.
This movie is pretty good, but Stargate SG-1 was peak! I highly recommend it. As others have said it improves a lot on the concept, and it also has more humor as well. Great show.
Well, I honestly thought at least ONE of you guys had seen Stargate before now!! It's quite something, don't you think? The visuals/effects & music combine at moments to make this into a cut above your ordinary sci-fi fare. No wonder it has reached cult status.
It's awesome that you guys try to figure out the logic - so many people don't get that that is its own fun. Constellations are the same in the same hemisphere, but if you cross the equator, you see different stars. As you go further north or south you see slightly different stars. You are right though that constellations are terrible for triangulation. From Earth they are just a number of random stars that can be extremely far from each other, so finding even the center point of a handful of semi-random stars (one constellation) would be very difficult. And as you said, the stars move quite a bit over thousands of years.
Yes, SG1 is actually good. If you are a fan of TNG or Dr. Who, you'd likely enjoy it. Not every episode is a banger, but for being a 10 season show, they held it together pretty well until the end.
The constellations are not used to map anything. The creators of the gates wrote a universal code for all gates and simply varied the "font", i.e. they used the local constellations to make the gates look unique.
The movie is good but the shows are better! SG-1 goes through some growing pains in the first few episodes, as most shows do, but it just keeps getting better for 8 straight years! The last 2 seasons are still great even though I didn’t like them as much as season 8. And then there’s Atlantis and SGU. Also great shows. SGU starts out so dark by comparison that it was a difficult adjustment for most fans including me. It wasn’t until my second watch that I realized it might be the best of the 3 shows!
Stargate SG-1 is one of my favorite sci-fi series of all time. It rides a fine line between serious and silly, light and dark, the characters are fantastic and have great growth. The stakes and stories are unique, the dialogue is snappy. It is just a fun fun ride.
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And now please Stargate SG-1 (only 213 episodes and 2 movies) and the Stargate Atlantis (only 99 episodes). Its super easy, barely an inconvenience 😂🤣But seriously, its great and well worth it and i'm already seriously considering to rewatch it when i'm done with my Dexter rewatch 🤔
Don't forget Universe.
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Actually there's a 100 episodes of Stargate Atlantis.
@@Luzarioth I meant Ark of Truth and Continuum, which are the others ? Not counting this one of course.
For Universe .. i don't know, its not bad, but i never really felt the need to watch it a second time. One reason maybe its that it was too early canceled, but also there was just too much drama in it for my taste. Kinda like O.C. California in space.
@@beldin2987 I know what you mean, there was ALOT of manufactured drama, felt like some of the early episodes of the Battlestar reboot. I enjoyed the concept and some of the characters, but it stresses you out to watch because people seem to make choices based on how much drama it'll create.
The stars shifting over time is explained in the beginning of Stargate SG-1. They can get to the other stargate in the movie because it's the closest one and the stars haven't shifted enough yet. In the series they try conecting to other gates further away but it doesn't work until they figure out how to adjust for the stars moving over time.
Yep. The series did a good job of addressing the film’s shortcomings.
And the constellations are as seen from earth
which is a retcon because in the movie they go to different galaxy while in the show its all milky way (including the planet from the movie) and traveling to different galaxy shows up much later in the series
Unlike in the recent Star Wars universe, the retcons actually make sense and serve a real purpose.
yep, stardrift and why it works in this instance after 10,000 years is well explained, but he does have a point... constellations are quite large and a fairly imprecise way of pinpointing anything. But he concept is great, so am happy to roll with it. Thinking about it, pulsars would have been a better option, but that would be hard to translate to screen for the ah-ha moment
SG1 is my favourite example of how you can take an idea and characters and lore from a movie and transform it into something bigger, something more fleshed out, with more character work and yet still feel the spirit of the original. SG1 is such a comfort show for me, it's warm and cozy but still manages to have some good morality takes on the implications of interacting with other cultures. They absolutely crushed having an idea of what else this idea could become in an episodic nature.
these two just spent an hour long video shitting on the movie and you're like "now watch the tv show" and think that's going to go anywhere?
Ok, now that you have finally seen the movie, I think you have 2 choices: watch SG-1 or turn in you sci-fi nerd card! Enjoy! 🙂
Kurt Russell's arc is about a man recovering from suicidal depression after losing his son to a firearms accident. This was actually seminal stuff in the 90s.
Jack O'Neill arc is very interesting in overall, when thinkin where it went after all this, meaning mainly the SG-1 series. Not saying any details, so no spoilers to anyone who haven't seen the serie, but everytime I watch this movie, I wan't to watch the serie all over again 😂
They weren't amazed with the fire. They were amazed that it was made from a flick of a lighter vs rubbing two sticks together.
The white woman who marries Jackson is literally a middle eastern actress from Israel
and she has green eyes, not blue. Among Egyptians green eyes are not uncommon, nor is fairly light skin. Apparently, there were ancient Egyptians with natural blonde or red hair. The Mediterranean peoples interbred for thousands of years. Lighter skinned peoples like the Greeks and Hittites would have contributed genes to the pool.
@@jamiegagnon6390How dare you step on their self-righteous, self-loathing white outrage!😂
SG-1 is unironically my favorite show of all time.
Macguyver really managed to pull off the character in a completely non Kurt Russell way. (yes I know his name)
Babylon 5 follows up, _but _*_SG is a better series because_*_ it evolves so well._ Don't panic - The science is explained, and explored.
@@adamcarlson2192 Much better than Kurt Russell. Honestly, he was one of the characters I really did not like in the movie but show O'Neil is awesome.
You are probably right, but my enjoyment was with SG-1 and Firefly. A very long series and a very short series.
@@GeraldTodd-r4z Absolutely loved FireFly, and Serenity. But the series (14 episodes) was unfortunately *cut* short, so it could not fully explore the overarching story.
actual linguists have reacted to this movie and said its pretty accurate for an expert to be able to quickly learn the variations in a language that would have evolved seperately, it would literally just come down to learning the vowels, unless the language was so drastically different. but the thing is that the abydonians(egyptians who are on this planet) have stagnated they have not been allowed to evolve much. so it would take a few days for him to learn the langauge, there is also a group of youtubers who make videos where they literally learn a brand new langauge in a week
Ancient Egyptian was a Semitic language. The pronunciation used when people read it is normally based on Coptic or Arabic. It's not that hard to change the pronunciation of a consonant or two and shift vowels.
He's also a polyglot and has studied languages most of his life so he'd learn faster than the other people.
@@ronmaximilian6953 Ancient Egyptian is an Afroasiatic language, not a semetic language
With Michael Shanks playing Daniel Jackson, you KINDA get your Michael Jackson.
Also, here's a vote for you guys doing Stargate SG-1. It fucking rocks.
Richard Dead Anderson (MacGuyver), Michael Shanks, Amanda Tapping (best fightin' scientist ever) and the ever awesome Christopher Judge (Voice of Kratos).
@aaronbraegen8651, Indeed.
Sha'uri is played by Mili Avital (Hebrew: מילי אביטל; born March 30, 1972) is an Israeli-American actress. She built an international career, starting in her native Israel, starring on stage, film and television. She won the Israeli Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress in 1991, moved to New York in 1993 to study theatre in English, was discovered by an agent while working in a restaurant, and started acting in Hollywood almost immediately. She has maintained her career in both countries since.
To put it simply, seeing different constellations from a different place on Earth (such as Australia vs North America) is like looking outside of your house from different windows - the mountains on the horizon aren't perceptibly different in relation to each other. The stars that make up constellations are far away. Very very fricking far away in comparison to any distance you could move around on earth.
Think of the symbols more like #s in a phone number. You need them in a specific order get gate to answer. You are way overthinking things.
49:07 "what is the TV show about" when the movie is about a stargate that lets people travel to different parts of the universe. LOL
And the consequences of Ra's death on the galactic situation that Earth knows nothing about at the end of the movie.
To be fair, in the movie, they set it up that the gate basically ONLY goes to that one planet and that Ra is the last of his kind. So it does come off as one-and-done narrative. The show retconned a lot of things about the movie, generally for the better.
The premise of the show is that the events of the movie created a power vacuum among Ra's species and made Earth a major target. Also, as you can imagine given the design of the Stargate, it connects to more than one planet. The show is top tier scifi; you should watch it.
Earth was always of some value, but when we buried our gate, our mines were mostly empty and the effort wasn’t worth the payoff.
Only planets that look like locations within a two hour drive of Vancouver, though.
@@hyperspacey It's a small universe. lol
these two just spent an hour long video shitting on the movie and you're like "now watch the tv show" and think that's going to go anywhere?
@@arizona_anime_fan They weren't shitting on the film. The biggest "complaints" were just them trying to figure out how things would actually work. And for that, the show's a lot better than the movie.
The “white lady” is of Turkish-Moroccan descent
ya and was born in Israel :/
never knew a person could assume someone race based off eye color lol
These two are very patronizing in a very ignorant way. Everything is outdated to them and nothing meets up with their snob expectations and brainwashed idealisms of what things "should" be.
@@Novaximus"why aren't they acting like current year?!" 🙀
Yeah, the not so subtle racial bias of assuming that somehow all middle eastern people must be dark skinned or black; Condescension Level: Ignorant
They got that outward splash effect by firing an air cannon into the surface of a pool and filming it from underwater.
That is SO COOL. I love practical filmmaking!
I wish modern films used all the tools available to them cos many times practical works best. (Sometimes CGI is the best choice)
@@sonicsean34 Christopher Nolan and Dennis Villaneuve are masters mixing the practical and CGI. Wish more would follow their lead.
there was also the amusement that for their first try, then used too much pressure and emptied the pool/tank they were recording, and it only took a tiny pressure blast for the effect
SG-1 is definitely worth watching. The show not only explains and expands the world but also quickly answers many of the questions you had. Regarding cats and constellations: you're partly right about the constellations. While they do move, this happens over an extremely long timeframe-taking at least 50,000 years to look different and up to 400,000 years for significant changes.
As for the Stargates, they do have different symbols on them depending on the planet. Some symbols overlap, depending on the planet's location relative to Earth, but the 'point of origin' symbol is unique to each gate. The symbols on the gates represent constellations as seen from somewhere on the planet, typically from the hemisphere where the gate was constructed. This means that moving the gate between hemispheres wouldn't affect its function, even if the depicted constellations aren't visible from its new location.
As for domestic cats, they are much older than Ancient Egypt, and the cats in Egypt were essentially like the cats we know today. The Egyptian Mau is a breed that is thought to date back to that time, and Abyssinians resemble the cats depicted in ancient Egyptian art.
Atlantis too. Universe not so much. Origins is okay if you're ready for the low budget and just want / need more Stargate.
There is an argument to be made that cats were never really domesticated. It may be that the cats decided to cohabitate with humans... without being invited.
@@Dark__Thoughts I agree, although I liked Universe, but I like anything with spaceships and lots of things with spaceships.
@@sheldoninexile I do too, but Universe was more about being a teen soap opera than about spaceships. It just so happens that they were living on one. It didn't really feel connected to Stargate either and I didn't really see any overarching plot going anywhere. It was all just about the stupid drama shit on the ship between characters I did not care for at all.
Edit: No idea how it went form Stargate to Star Wars. lol
@@Dark__Thoughts True. I was just able to tune that out. So I guess my review for Universe would be if you like ships and space shit enough to tune out most of the show its worth a watch.
The weirdest thing in this movie, hands down, is French Stewart playing a marine. AND SURVIVING.
"over ten-thousand years those stars would have moved ten-thousand light years from each others"
Ummm... are you implying that stars move at the speed of light?!?
En tout cas il a raison sur ce point. Prendre des constellations (formations composées d'étoiles très distantes les unes des autres et en mouvement permanent) est d'un ridicule sans nom. Dans quelques milliers d'années notre ciel sera très différent du ciel actuel. Prendre ces constellations comme référentiel sur une grande durée n'a aucun sens.
@@christophe2092 My comment was on SPECIFICALLY stars moving 10,000 LY in 10.000 years. That is the only point being discussed here. How in any way is this correct?!? Are YOU claiming stars move at the speed of light?!?
In any case, regarding specifically the constellations... I'm not sure just how different they would be. There would be be some variation, for sure, especially since some stars have more angular speed (not the be confused with relative speed) than others. I know Polaris moves at a good speed, and was not always the north star, but other stars may have smaller rates of change. I mean, it takes us 230,000,000 years to orbit the milky way
For all we know, maybe the symbol auto-update. We update our maps or runway numbers as time goes by.
@@PsychoMuffinSDM je ne reviens pas sur cette histoire de vitesse sur laquelle tu bloques, il est évident que les étoiles de notre galaxie ne se déplacent pas à la vitesse de la lumière. C'est cette histoire de constellations sur laquelle je bloque. Une constellation c'est une représentation bidimensionnelle d'une réalité tridimensionnelle. Il est évident qu'en 10000 ans le ciel change. Pour t'en convaincre tape sur Google "ciel étoilé hémisphère nord/sud il y a 10000 ans" et compare à l'actuel...
This is Roland Emmerich's best film by far. The constellation thing isn't describing a set point in space or a specific star. The combination of constellations in the correct order provide an "address" for the location of a gate. When you dial the address, you're saying, "I want to go to the gate associated with this address." If you live at 123 XYZ Street, and then there's an earthquake that shifts your house 200 feet away from its original location, the mailman can still find you because you still live at the same address despite the fact that the physical location has moved. Side note, the locals think these guys are Neteru, which would be like calling the Greek gods, "Olympians," but to then include all of the divine entities of Greek mythology in the term, not just the main pantheon.
In this case, Neteru tended to be the divine powers that involved themselves with humanity on a regular basis. This is a common theme in human mythology. For example, Coyote from North America, Smoking Mirror from South America, Loki from Scandanavia, Lugh from Ireland, or Set from Egypt would all be considered Neteru by the Egyptians. There is even a fairly decent theory that Smoking Mirror and Set are the same person, as are Quetzalcoatl from South America and Horus from Egypt. Don't know if that's correct or not, but I know that Horus and Set sort of disappear from Egypt after a huge battle, then Quetzalcoatl and Smoking Mirror appear in South American mythology. The two then battle it out before disappearing...only for Horus and Set to reappear in Egyptian mythology to finish their war. Probably coincidence, but its still very interesting.
Also, when they say this location is on the other side of the known universe, it doesn't mean on the other side of the actual universe. Because of the vast distances involved, we can only see a tiny portion of the actual universe. Its like a vision bubble centered on our planet that extends outward as far as we can see (not very far) and is moving with the Earth as the point of reference. So, basically, the gate location is somewhere close to the furthest extent we can currently see, which actually means its fairly close to us on a cosmological scale.
"Stargate: SG1" follows the events of the film. Jackson and the locals bury the gate on their side, and the entire operation gets mothballed on the Earth side. One day the gate suddenly opens, and more bad guys come through, stealing one of the soldiers who is part of the skeleton crew assigned to guard it. This is how they discover that there is more than one gate, and that the aliens (the Goa'uld and their Jaffa soldiers) are actually quite numerous and Ra was just one of these things. The Goa'uld are these parasites that look like snakes, and they invade a host, taking it over. Whatever form they appear in is just the host, the actual Goa'uld is inside, wrapped around their spinal cord. The Jaffa are humans which have been bred and trained as both soldiers and literal incubators for Goa'uld young. They all have a surgically created pouch in their chest where a single Goa'uld larva grows to maturity over the course of a couple of decades. Once its ready, it is removed from the pouch and introduced to its new host, which it will invade and take over. The host remains somewhat conscious and aware, but unable to control its own body and is forced to simply witness all the crazy shit the Goa'uld controlling it does. Later seasons of the show give us a new character that was once a host but got free somehow (I don't remember how) and she is forever haunted by the things "she" did when the parasite controlled her.
The universe is full of humans who have been placed wherever they are by their Goa'uld masters to serve as a labor force and source of new Jaffa (there are also Jaffa females, so the Jaffa breed as well.) If I remember this correctly, it turns out that most humans in the universe didn't originally come from Earth, because our planet isn't actually "our" planet, but a colony created 10,000 years ago by the Ancients...an advanced human civilization that evolved somewhere else. The Ancients are the source of our legends regarding Atlantis. Most of the gods of our mythology are actually based on our memories of the Goa'uld or their enemies, the Asgard (the source of both Norse legend and Area 51 "Gray" aliens.) It sounds silly when I type it out like that, but the show(s) make it work out just fine...although its odd how almost every habitable world in the known universe looks oddly like an abandoned quarry in British Columbia.
The "SG1" moniker is the name of the primary Stargate team, but there are more than 20 of them if I recall. Some of them are similar to SG1 but others are more specialized. For example, one of the teams is more like a platoon of specially trained Marines who act as like an emergency response unit. Jackson and O'Neill both reappear as core members of SG1, although they are played by different actors (Richard Dean Anderson as O'Neill and Michael Shanks as Jackson.) Each episode involves traveling through the gate to some new planet and getting into various sticky situations dealing with Goa'uld, then the Replicators, and finally the Ori. The follow on show, "Atlantis" gives us a new cast and a new enemy in the form of the Wraith, who are like soul vampires and generally suck major bawls.
SG1's production values are a little low early on, and that can be discouraging if you try to watch it. However, they work out the kinks as time goes on and do a really good job with the story and an enhanced budget. Some of the episodes are absolutely top notch, like one where they are in a ship that is about to get hit with a blast from an Ori battleship (this would be a one shot kill) but they use this experimental technology that slows time to a crawl, preventing the impact. They're trapped though, and we get to see everyone live on the ship for like 20 plus years, aging and forming relationships and so forth as the Ori blast inches closer and closer year by year. There is another episode where this television/movie writer knows the truth about the Stargate project and wrangles himself permission to write a television show based on the SG1 team. The military gets to oversee the TV show, in order to prevent the guy from spilling any real secrets. The episode gives us the SG1 team sitting in a conference room with the writer, talking about the script, and each member of the team attempts to make their own contribution (the TV characters are all based on the real team members.) Each person tends to envision the show to their own benefit, making themselves look like heroes to great comedic effect. When they then try to use their actual missions as the source for the script, the writer says that none of that is believable so he'll just make something up.
In the end, it turned out to be a damned good show and well worth the watch, as are the two follow on series. Also, Stargate: Atlantis was (as far as I know) Jason Momoa's first regular acting gig, where he essentially plays himself, like usual.
SG1 was great fun. The premise is we swap Kurt for Macgyver and run adventure of the week through a galaxy of chaos because we killed the big "god" that was keeping the other "gods" in line. Atlantis decided it was going to be whacky action sequences whilst we had big conversations about morality... and then I missed the other later shows.
It was fun watching through this original movie again with the two of you!
If you don't watch the series, I think you should the watch The Children of the Gods cut of the double length pilot of Stargate SG1. Its kind of a soft reboot continuation of the movie.
these two just spent an hour long video shitting on the movie and you're like "now watch the tv show" and think that's going to go anywhere?
So during the SG-1 series they actually address the issue of stellar drift. It’s explained that one of the biggest problems with the Earth gate is that they don’t have a “dial home device.” An extremely advanced computer that is able to dial any other gate while compensating for stellar drift and also other “problems” (like maybe you shouldn’t open a wormhole that punches through the middle of a star 😉).
They had to build their own dialing computer that could only rudimentarily do what the DHD did effortlessly (they even manually spin the ring on the Stargate to “dial”). Also, not sure if you caught it but the big breakthrough was understanding the “origin symbol.” Which explains why you can use constellations. They’re based on a map from a point of origin.
My understanding is that the important part of the description is that the 7 symbols X/Y/Z axis out specific gates from the list; while also pointing at specific Cosmic addresses; based off where your traveling from.
The Gates were placed in specific locations to make use of specific space stuff in mind to locate origin and destination accurately enough to be within W amount of time of being placed.
I mean can you imagine the calculating power of the alien tech to reach such abilities. They must of been able to predict drift well enough to program in a range of location into the mix.
The Stargate has been described as one of the best story telling devices ever. Every week you are just one step through the gate to whatever story you want to tell.
Nuclear weapons (atomic bombs) are incredibly stable as long as the components do not achieve critical mass, which requires a very specific type of explosion around the plutonium core. Shooting it may wreck the wiring; however, it is improbable to actually set the bomb off.
This is not a prequel. This is Stargate the original movie.
I mean, it's technically a prequel to the TV series, since it takes place before the series, but you're right that the show was made after the movie and it was based on the movie.
@@yojoonothe prequel for Stargate is “Stargate Origins”
Humans find a way to instantaneously travel through the universe and you can’t see how to make a show from that? But seriously, Stargate SG-1 and the spin-offs were really fun. I get that it’s a bit much to react to but I would totally be up for that.
At least give the first season a go, and if the numbers hold up, keep going. If not, we at least got one season, right? ^^
From the evidence I've seen, Nerdy has very little imagination so I am not surprised.
Your "use constellations for navigation" question is answered in the show.
LOL! As soon as the gate opened all questions of "how's this shit work" went away. Now imagine that scene in a dark theater.
Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin had a whole trilogy ready to go. Most of your "how does that work" questions would have been answered. The TV show used some of those answers and changed others massively.
Sounds to me like you two are seriously talking yourselves into watch the show. I'd absolutely be there for it.
yeah - I'm gonna subscribe to this channel in hope that you watch at least first episode of SG-1.
I watched all episodes of all Stargete SG-1, Atlantis, Universe, all movies and also those miniseries that came out later. I watched everyhing at least twice!!
Btw... There is some serious talk about rebooting Stargate series next year - I can't wait!! =)
@@Feanor12 they are not going to watch SG-1 lol.
To answer the question "is Stargate SG-1 good? 1:11:35" Yes! It is! Definitely a commitment to watch it all. I just rewatched it with some friends who had never seen it - meeting up twice a week to watch it in small batches it took us almost 9 months.
The constellations would move, but 10,000 years isn't a very long time astronomically. It would take more like 100,000 -200,000 for a more noticeable change in a constellations pattern.
"in the last 10 thousand years, all of those stars have moved 10 thousand light years from each other". no. stars do not move at light speed. unless they are very close to a super-massive black hole, they don't even travel at a significant percentage of light speed. @pokeycantdance has the right idea, but it gets a little tricky when you add perspective. many stars are just moving away, so they just get dimmer extremely slowly and don't appear to move much at all. typically, the closer a star is to your location, the more it will appear to radially move with respect to the background of "slower" more distant stars, over time. nearby stars will move slightly in just a few thousand years, but many stars require millions of years. one simple example is the stars of Corona Borealis. two of it's seven brightest (as seen from Earth) stars are moving much faster, with respect to the other five, and from our perspective they even "appear" to be heading right for one another. in a few thousand years, as seen from Earth, the constellation will look exactly as it does now, with the exception that two of the stars will appear to have changed places with each other. that's not at all what is happening, but it is what it will look like from Earth.
I won't go into all the different types of stellar movement, which includes bouncing up and down as they orbit the center of spiral galaxies, or the fact that as our planet spins it wobbles in a process we call the precession of the equinoxes. the short answer is that every star you can see is not only in the Milky Way Galaxy, it's in our tiny part of the galaxy. astronomical distances are enormous. it is complicated, but stars simply do not appear to move (with respect to each other) very fast. the distances are so mind-bogglingly vast, that stars do not move in centuries, and almost none move in millennia--most stars take eons. for example, the closest star to our sun is traveling away from us at over 17 km every second. light travels 300,000 km every second, which is 17 and a half thousand times faster. so, currently Alpha Centauri is moving away from us at about 0.006% of the speed of light.
if you're a big enough nerd that you're still reading, that means that Alpha Centauri is moving away from us with great speed--17 km/s is over 60,000 km/hour! it's about 4.3 light years away from us, so it takes light 4.3 years to reach us, which means that when we look at it, we are seeing what it looked like 4.3 years ago, and it has actually moved 2.3 billion km farther away from us in that time--indeed, it is possible that the star was destroyed during those 4 years and it doesn't even currently exist, but we still see it exactly as it was, 4.3 years ago. However, with all that speed, it's still only 6 THOUSANDTHS OF ONE PERCENT of the speed of light, and very little of that is radial movement. so, have any constellations changed in the last thousand years? yes, every one of them! would you notice the difference? almost none of it.
Except for the dipper of course.
@@jsbrads1 I assume you're referring to the fact that Polaris will no longer be "the North Star" in a few more thousand years? If so, then that's due to Earth's axis of rotation wobbling about (precession, it's called), and has nothing to do with the motion of the stars in the Little Dipper constellation.
@@MagsonDare I did not know about the North Star moving, I was referring to the dipper that has the bent handle and it used to be straighter a few thousand (?) years ago. So the stars inside that constellation moved in the recent past, or maybe it was just our perspective from Earth? Either way, it changed.
And I also heard about a star in the Pleiades that used be far enough from another star that we could see them as two separate stars with the unaided eye thousands (?) of years ago, but now two of the stars in the constellation are so close together that they appear as one star to the unaided eye.
Speaking other languages is Daniel Jackson's entire schtick. He's also a total screaming genius, but specifically languages are his jam. With all the fictional science in this science fiction movie, Jackson figuring out how to speak space-Egyptian is one of the most realistic parts.
you forgot getting high on power, like the time he married a princess, became ruler of a kingdom and got messed up by the goauld sarcophagus he was resting on... or the time he ascended to heaven with the ancients only to be kicked out after just one season !!!!
BTW there was also a cartoon series. Also Stargate Atlantis also had a noob that is famous now named Jason Mammoa
They address a lot of those drift problems in the first episode by explaining “of course! A civilization this advanced would obviously make a device that could predict 10,000 years of stellar drift.”
you have to understand, you've hit a nest of superfans - they will give you the season and episode your questions will be answered
We were all sad when we heard there is no S11 - but SGA & SGU kept it going
You should TOTALLY start reacting to Stargate SG-1. I'd sign up for your patreon if you did that!
Nuclear missiles also use star charts as part of their navigation.
And yes, SG-1 is well worth it (one of those shows which gets continually better each subsequent season)
Stargate SG-1 is one of the most consistently entertaining science fiction series. It doesn't reach the highs of some science fiction series but it certainly doesn't reach the lows a lot of science fiction shows become. The cast ensemble is extremely likeable. SG-1 writers had to retcon some things but all the changes made logical sense.
The Anubis attack was pretty high for me
I think it does reach the height of highs. It's just too complicated for most people, and the anti religious nature of it turns off a lot of severely religious Americans. I mean the Orai, the most invincible of all bad guys, the relentless Replicators, even the Goauld are a truly horrifying form of enemy, but also cool with their complex cold blooded culture. And the super creative and intelligent ways they are defeated is unequaled by any other sci fy.
@@Metal0sopher have to hard agree. The stuff you mentioned is cool but doesn't reach "The Expanse", "BSG", "Severance", "Star Trek: DS9", "Person of Interest", "Babylon 5" level of highs in the writing. The writing in the high peaks of those series is all time great science fiction.
Stargate SG-1 wasn't complicated at all to get. It's one of the reasons why it's one of the more consistently entertaining and long-lasting series. People who don't like science fiction love this series like my grandmother did. SG-1 like Dr. Who if Dr. Who was consistently a good series.
Nerdy really over thinks movies dont he? :)
and that's why we love them ^^
It's part of our nerd culture.
And arrogantly ignorant some of the time. Whether it's just their youtube persona or not, I'm not a fan of overly judgey statements when one assumes they know, but don't - it's why I can only take these two in small doses.
yeah...and he got it wrong on 90% of the times..lol
The tv show is actually better thought out and fleshed out, they come up with various rules of how the Stargate works and how it interacts with things as well.
To let you know Stargate SG-1 was phenomenal. I have never known a person that was introduced and started it and didn’t immediately fall in love with it.
The shows are very good and particularly internally self-consistent, which is usually a big ptoblem in sci-fi.
Independence Day was supposed to be the sequel to this movie. But because show went into a different path then the movie, they changed out the IP.
Lol. Nerdy. They actually do at least acknowledge stellar drift at the beginning of SG1.
I was just about to say the same thing! Abados is the closest gate to Earth so the drift was less and they were able to connect. They "compensate for stellar drift" in the first ep to be able to reach other gates.
In the first episode
No need explaining it, they won't react to it, lol 😂
Yes, we had answering machines in the ‘90s. But I’m not sure they want to leave a message saying “we need you to report to base and take control of our top secret project”.
He thought email was more common in 94 than an answering machine lol
Which, I can understand the logic: we've been sending each other notes a lot longer than audio recordings.
In the early 90s I got at least 7 of those kinds of messages on my answering machine every week. 😉
I actually had an email address in '94 and never had an answering machine till the telephone companies started to provide it as part of their service.
SG-1 was produced with the cooperation and support of the US Air Force. This includes footage of the entrance to Cheyenne Mountain and a Camino or two of an actual USAF General.
There’s also a great story about a real sign on a door saying “Stargate Command”. It is in fact a real broom closet in NORAD! 😂
You forgot to add that Richard Dean Anderson became a honourary General due to his portray as jack O'Niell
Constellations are used as symbols to make a language/numbers. Effectively its like a phone number.
Exactly! The "constellations" aren't used in the dialing, they're the symbol of the planet you're using as triangulation. Earth's symbol isn't a constellation (that we're familiar with......) it's just the symbol for earth. The right symbols in the right order connect you to a specific location.
Yes, Watch the TV show!
Stargate SG-1 would be an incredible show to react to.
It's funny in some movies how people think no one in a movie or show could be lying.
In this case, these people painted their history onto walls over 2,000 years ago. We have specialists that piece together history from back then bit by bit. It gets even harder if the people back then were wrong about something, misrepresented things or outright lied.
Again, in this case, Ra wasn't the only alien and you don't need a detailed dialling system if you use only one number.
Stargate SG-1's first season starts slow, but the show picks up a lot in season 2 and later.
Stargate Atlantis begins in SG-1 and spins off into it's own show.
About constellations, you are thinking about the night sky, which is different wherever you are on earth so yes, the constellations you can see are different. However the coordinates of the stars that make up the constellations in space are always the same, with a slight drift over thousands and millions of years.
They never left our galaxy. The constellations are just like, markers. The universe is expanding at the same rate, so those markers will work, regardless of 10,000 years.
In the first 20 minutes all is explained in episode one of Stargate-SG1 episode 1. Every question asked is answered in the series give it a go it's really interesting.
The Constellations act as cartographic symbols. Your lines are drawn from the hypothetical "center" of one to another to form your line. Three lines (using six constellations) designate a point in space to which you are connecting a wormhole from your own location (the seventh symbol). The "symbols" address an individual stargate that connects the wormhole.
Yes, I was going to type mainly what you said as well. Just think of the constellations as symbols unique to each planet, and each stargate has different constellations (symbols) in their sky. Therefore the symbols on each gate are different from each other gate.
Daniel is an archeologist and more importantly a linguist. It wouldn't be so hard for him to figure out the dialect they are speaking. That's literally his job. 😅
You start with the movie and the you start watching Stargate SG-1. EASY. I would love to watch you two react to the series. SG1 is probably my favorite sci-fi show. It's just fun.
So if you do an episoide a day every day of all the Stargate episoides, you could easily finish in a year. Maybe. I would be down to see you guys every day for the next year! And you can't just watch just the one series. They mix plot points and episoides into the other series that also start up, so unless you watch them with the other shows at the same time as they aired, you will have problems. You need to follow the correct watch order with all the Stargate shows together.
The TV show answers a lot of these questions you're asking
There were domesticated cats 10,000 years ago. We found a. 9,500-year-old domesticated cat in Cyprus, which could only have gotten there if it or its ancestors traveled on human ships. The ancestor of modern cats is the Egypt African wildcat, which is almost identical in appearance to certain domesticated breeds.
Smallpox would have been a non-issue. Smallpox was effectively eradicated around 1980 because of inoculations. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of other fun diseases to die from, such as the common cold, influenza, or a host of stomach bugs?
In 94 we all had answering machines.
Folks started using them in the 70s. By the late 70s, they were cheap and common.
They just didn't want to call him. They did it in person, to demonstrate that this was not a joke. That it was serious business.
The science is solid enough, don’t stress, you can calculate solar decay or (shift) as its constant
13:10 Creating a real map of the Milky Way Galaxy, let alone the Universe like the one seen in in this movie, with star constellations and specific points to travel, it would be a complex task, as the Milky Way is vast, containing billions of stars, planets, and other celestial objects. However, it can be done. Accurately in both position and scale is challenging, but not impossible, and for type 1 and above civilization it's very easy.
You need to:
Identify Key Points
Gather Astronomical Data
Choose a Mapping Format
Plot Star Positions
Highlight Regions of Interest
Add Artistic Elements
Challenges, (but not impossible for advanced civilizations):
Scale and Accuracy
Perspective and Depth
Data Volume
The stars you can see DO change based on your latitude. The further north you are, the more you can see stars around Polaris. The further south you are, the more you see stars around the southern celestial pole.
Stargate is my jam. Watch SG-1 it's wonderfull.
Felis domesticus has been reasonably consistent in appearance since the first time we domesticated housecats.
@@LeeCarlson ‘We domesticated house cats”? You mean since cats moved in and made themselves at home.
@@afrancis1582, co-domestication of humans and their animals is commonly accepted.
I think you'll find that Felis catus is the correct taxonomic nomenclature of this endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature.
as someone who worked with big cats and has house cats i have to say that house cats are not domesticated they are just small and we are bigger than them and give then food lol you can set a house cat free and it will survive just fine out doors like the murder machine it and its bigger cousins are
@@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t Their visual, olfactory, and auditory senses contribute to their hunting skills and natural defenses.
1:02:29 YES Please!!
1:11:28 Personally, I think it's great! but watch the pilot at least and get a feel for it yourselves, your questions about what the show is and what happens with Jackson and Sha're, (And O'Niel recast to Richard Dean Anderson) will all be answered in the pilot.
1:13:58 You're both kinda right. what part of the night sky you can see from a certain point on earth is dependent on both your latitude and the season. but it's the same night sky all over the planet. Constellations do change over time, but 10000 years is ALMOST negligible in the cosmic sense (something they will explain in the series, kinda)
- I believe as I said earlier that it would help to view the symbols on the stargate not as constellations but numbers. each depiction of a constellation is attributed a numerical value, this turns into a code that then forms the address to the gate in question, it's not literally the constellations that are the points to "triangulate" the destination
1:15:09 The star map is the same, only what part of "the dome" is visible changes
The TV Show is about expanding the mythology, retconning few things that wouldn't make sense later (like Abydos in TV Show is the nearest location with Stargate unlike in the movie where they say it's on the other side of the known universe) and answering ALL questions and nitpicks Nerdy had during this reaction... So now you have to watch it ;)
There's quite a few things they retconned from the movie (which are kinda spoilers so I'm not gonna list it here) but they're kinda essential in order to properly expand the franchise / universe and they did so very well imo. Like, the SG-1 and Atlantis are easily so much better than the movie.
On the subject of constellations raised at the beginning....you're thinking too small. You have to think on a cosmic scale. 10,000 years is barely a microsecond in the span of the universe. It would take hundreds of millions (if not billions) of years for stellar drift to change the shape of the various constellations used as part of the gate addresses.
This is what I was about to type. People tend to have a very small understanding of scale. When you get to distances in space we have to stop using miles and we have to start using astronomical units or the distance light travels in a year. Its too hard to comprehends. The Stargate shows may not be that accurate as we figure out things over time but its not far off. I used to celestial navigate on the open seas. Yes things move but they are so far away our relative angles to anything is very close to what it was 2000 years ago. The adjustments are so small you would still be in the ballpark. Scale of the galaxy is almost impossible to understand.
The TV show also explains this in the pilot/TV movie.
But what he was saying, and I really never thought of it, it's just how the constellations look from earth. And either the gate addresses for just earth are different from each planet, that doesn't make sense ^^
At least I always assumed that earth just has one address and that doesn't make sense with constellations..
Also, because people have been looking at the stars and recording the stuff they see for thousands of years, we have pretty decent records of the movements that have happened over the last 2000 or so years in the main constellations, and because math and physics, we can model much of the movement seen outside that period, too
@@AdmiralEisbaer That do make sense, actually. Earth's symbol is not a constillation. The 6 points to navigate are. Earth's stargate symbol is the 2 guy praying at the pyramid, that is what represent the gate's planet. That means different planets does have different symbols, representing the views of constillations from that angle but the symbol for the gate should be the same.
All those questions at the end are addressed in the show. Also, how did they move the inner ring to get back from the planet? Answered in the show.
The shows, by the way, were all filmed in Canada ❤
the show is quite bingable! do it!
Indeed.
I think the physics (at least scifi physics) of the Startgate and all that stuff is much more conclusive and better explained in the Series I think!
Agreed. They writers ofSG-1 put real effort into fixing the issues in the film.
You asked if you messed up early when you were thinking scientific logic. You messed up when you didn't realize this is a science fiction/fantasy movie. When you can't beleive the story line, go with the flow.
It's nice to know you finally saw that movie. The constellations would look the same 10000 years ago. You underestimate how slow stars move relative to the vastness of the space in between. Not to mention that all stars we see move along others around the center of the milky way. I wouldn't try to dissect science too deeply in those types of movies. I just enjoy the ride. :)
Fantastic! Very happy you watch this. Stargate is one of my top sci-fi franchises of all time.
Regarding the constellations. They weren't used as precise locations for the Stargate but symbols for the language, used to represent the specific location found within the Stargates database. The science is fleshed out and corrected a bit in SG1, though it does still have some minor issue that need to be handwaved away.
I understand that reacting to the entire Stargate franchise would be way too much. What I suggest is have your community vote and watch the top 5 episodes of each season. (you will need to watch the 2 part series premier to understand all the retcon that happens to make this series work) Most episodes are stand alone, similar to Star Trek: TNG. Though there is an underlying story that is slowly advanced, there are only a few episodes in the first few seasons that are 'must' watch in order to know the overall plots progress.
The same is true for Stargate : Atlantis. FYI - Jason Momoa joined the cast in season 2, which I believe was his biggest/breakout role.
It is hard to explain the TV show's plot without a lot of spoilers, but put simply, Ra was not alone. The show does take a while to find its feet, but once it does, the writing is superb.
Very disappointed to see you caught the "the coordinate system wouldn't work due to stellar motion" goof but didn't pull them up for "aliens exist" or "you can travel via a wormhole" or "an orchestra can be heard off screen playing music throughout the film", which were far more egregious.
Seriously though, picking apart the goofy science needed to make a science fiction movie work bores me to tears.
James Spader is a great actor. Love him in the blacklist and Boston legal.
You started in right place, next is Stargate SG1 season 1-7, after that if you want stuff to match up and make more sense watch SG1 s8-s10 alongside Atlantis s1-3, then Stargate: The Ark of Truth movie, then Atlantis s4, then Stargate: Continuum. Other series are ok to skip.
Nerdy, you are trying to make sense of the science in a Roland Emmerich movie. That task cannot have a happy ending.
Please start SG-1, it really won't let you down, it's a long haul but so worth it!
The visual effect of going through the gate, on a theatre-sized screen… is absolutely wild.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, the coordinate system isn't necessarily super precise, more than just that whatever Stargate happens to be in the general vicinity of where the three lines intersect is where the Earth gate will go. To be clear though, if there's not a gate in the vicinity of the intersect, the Earth gate won't "dial up". This is all to say, it's ok if the constellations shifted a little.
SG-1 starts a year after the movie. I won't spoil the pilot plot, but ultimately it's like Doctor Who kinda :D The show is basically about the Air Force's "First Contact" team of the titular name, including Jackson, O'Neil, and two new characters exploring the Stargate system, going from world to world. (PS: O'Neil's character is completely different). SG- 1 is basically Star Trek without a ship. As for the spin-offs, I never really got into SG-Atlantis, though if you want to see where Jason Mamoa got his first small break AS AN ATLANTEAN, it's worth it for that. I also dug SG-Universe, but it was short-lived.
I'm kind of the opposite from you in the spinoffs. I really like SG-Atlantis almost as much as SG-1.. but really could not get into SG-Universe..
The actor playing Ra was the lead in The Crying Game too
According to IMDB he didn't like the attention from Crying Game. When they asked him to do this movie he asked for what he thought was an absurd $1 Million.
@@wompa70and knocked it out of the park.
Best acting in the movie IMO.
The entire Stargate IP is absolutely worth watching. Its fun and serious and everything in between. My only recommendation to avoid spoilers is watch each series in the order of SG1 (Ark of Truth at the end of SG1) then Atlantis (with Continuum in-between season 4 and 5 though it is focused on SG1 characters) then Universe then Origins.
Another retcon in the show (spoiler alert!!!) is the appearance of the aliens that possess humans. Here, it appears to be similar to the standard Roswell Gray aliens... In the show, the Roswell Grays are the Asgard, and the bad aliens here, known as the Goa'uld, possess bodies. While it's not explicitly mentioned in the show, background information states that Ra possessed an Asgard at the end of a battle between the two, but because the Asgard do not make good hosts due to biological incompatibilities, Ra was in real danger of dying. Luckily for him (and unluckily for us), Ra discovered Earth and figured out that humans were a nearly perfect host.
I fail to see that much difference between the 90's and today to warrant the amount of age remarks you guys make. It's almost like how when someone starts insulting others as a self deflection of their own insecurities. Makes me think you're in denial about being old cause you both look like you're in your 30's. As if the answering machine is soooo old you have to think back to a time when your mom once told you a story of how her mother once had one lmao. I know people who still use them with a main house lan line. Hasn't been that long.
Opening movie credits and music, they don't still do that? Cause idk, Joker instantly comes to mind and I'm pretty sure it had a similar format. But you guys talk about it like....Oh wow, I've never seen that before. How weird. Whhhhaaaa? They used record movies on playable discs???
In 4 years time...."Wow, that's so 20's when they had an actual person to take your order. That's crazy."
Television show was amazing for its time, a galaxy builder with ties to various ancient gods that make historical sense out of myths.
Stargate Atlantis is my favorite spinoff, starring a young Jason Momoa!! 😻👽
The last symbol in a dialing sequence is based on the planet of origin.... so it only has to hold info that is local like moons. like the Earth origin symbol is like a pyramid with our single moon over it. so it's fine that the Abydos home symbol isn't a constellation.
I know that it sounds like a lot, but I would absolutely be here 100% for a TV show reaction.
The show is cool because of how they expand the lore regarding other mythological figures. The Egyptian style is exclusive to the this faction, but there are other deities like ancient Chinese, Mesoamerican and Norse, and some of them aren't even the same aliens as these ones!
Constellations don't matter. Just like the origin of the letter F doesn't matter.
Just put the right sequence in.
Don't over analyze a telephone. But SG-1 explains it.
Technically most stars in the visible night sky with the human eye are within 1,000 light years, most far closer, barely a blip of the total Milky Way galaxies total area.
The only exceptions would be a handful of truly massive stars.
But yeah, that does mean a lot of stellar drift, which does get addressed in the pilot episode of the tv show and is a big theme of the first few seasons. Basically they have to calculate the stellar drift to get to further away stars (so the planet in the movie is retconned to be in the same galaxy and basically right next door to earth).
Anyways the actress brought in to play the scientist pushed hard to not be saying technobable but actual science. The producers thankfully agreed and brought in several scientists to help make it accurate to mid 90s to early 2000s science. A few facts have changed but they can't be held accountable for that as they did their absolute best.
This movie is pretty good, but Stargate SG-1 was peak! I highly recommend it. As others have said it improves a lot on the concept, and it also has more humor as well. Great show.
Well, I honestly thought at least ONE of you guys had seen Stargate before now!! It's quite something, don't you think? The visuals/effects & music combine at moments to make this into a cut above your ordinary sci-fi fare. No wonder it has reached cult status.
It's awesome that you guys try to figure out the logic - so many people don't get that that is its own fun. Constellations are the same in the same hemisphere, but if you cross the equator, you see different stars. As you go further north or south you see slightly different stars. You are right though that constellations are terrible for triangulation. From Earth they are just a number of random stars that can be extremely far from each other, so finding even the center point of a handful of semi-random stars (one constellation) would be very difficult. And as you said, the stars move quite a bit over thousands of years.
Yes, SG1 is actually good. If you are a fan of TNG or Dr. Who, you'd likely enjoy it. Not every episode is a banger, but for being a 10 season show, they held it together pretty well until the end.
You should see Soldier. Kurt Russell is the lead and only says 104 words the entire movie.
But his eyes and cheekbones spoke volumes! Love that film.
The constellations are not used to map anything. The creators of the gates wrote a universal code for all gates and simply varied the "font", i.e. they used the local constellations to make the gates look unique.
The movie is good but the shows are better! SG-1 goes through some growing pains in the first few episodes, as most shows do, but it just keeps getting better for 8 straight years! The last 2 seasons are still great even though I didn’t like them as much as season 8.
And then there’s Atlantis and SGU. Also great shows.
SGU starts out so dark by comparison that it was a difficult adjustment for most fans including me. It wasn’t until my second watch that I realized it might be the best of the 3 shows!
In 1994 we all had answering machines which we summarily ignored. They were full of messages from telemarketers.
Stargate SG-1 is one of my favorite sci-fi series of all time. It rides a fine line between serious and silly, light and dark, the characters are fantastic and have great growth. The stakes and stories are unique, the dialogue is snappy. It is just a fun fun ride.