Well to be fair, majority of those who thought it was the Mickey Mouse dance haven't read the manga (or that specific part of the manga). Also agree, the Mickey Mouse dance was funnier.
Actually I'm more inclined to believe most fans that believe the dance is a reference to Mickey did read the manga or at least that part of the manga and kobeni's dance just didn't pop into their heads. Even I read the manga and saw the dance as more similar to mickey than kobeni because kobeni's dance wasn't in my mind when I saw them dance in the intro
@@Dr.HooWho it's most likely not a reference to anything and it's just a random dance that fits both characters that coincidentally can be connected to any dance from any media
It looks more like the Kobeni dance cuz if they weren’t hunting devils, you know Power and Denji would be at the arcade all day hogging the DDR machines
Just based on the images alone I don’t think it’s the Kobeni dance. They don’t kick their legs out in the panels and they do in the hotdog dance. I haven’t read the manga so no spoilers.
Do DDR machine still exist. Im assuming theres alot in japan. In my country. The arcade only have the typical Scam Crane, some Digimon/Pokemon card game and maybe a Jurrasic Park game and fishing frenzy.
@@bananagod5530 There's a Japanese chain entertainment center called Round 1 that has a lot of them. But the only country I know that it's expanded to is the states. DDRA is the current series that has a special golden machine editon. Then there's their spiritual successors, Dance Evolution that while discontinued, was pretty much mo cap that required actual dancing. And the difficulties were how much you had to follow the professional choreography. Dance Rush Stardom that simplifies it to just being a borderless freestyle pressure mat so a lot of dancing is based on actual shuffles and footwork than DDR's rigid stomps and taps. And the last and newest, Dance aRound which is a combination of the last two, having a dedicated vertical camera, but there's not much songs yet.
I'm afraid of stopping this dance.The Disney has large power , so they strict for copies and hommages. If this dance was deleted, I will be disappointed. Denji and Power are very cute, I think.
Other people have already said it, but, in an interview with the production, it was mentioned that the dance came from the idol group Morning Musume. So it's actually neither, unless it turns out Kobeni is also dancing to Morning Musume. In any case, I like all three, the canon (Morning Musume) the maybe canon (Kobeni DDR), and the fandom headcanon (Mickey Mouse Hot Dog Dance). I'm still keeping my personal headcanon that Aki, realizing the education of this two gremlins was pretty lacking, made them watch Mickey Mouse Clubhouse to teach them basic stuff, and it ended up backfiring him bc Denji and Power didn't learn squat, but absolutely adored the show and would celebrate a day's job well done dancing Hot Dog. In fact, I also headcanon that, after his character development caused by certain traumatic events, before enrolling in [redacted], Denji, in preparation, rewatched the entire show, now paying attention to the learning aspect of it, legit believing the knowledge within was all he needed to go to [redacted].
Kobeni's dance is probably the song "Butterfly" recorded in the game machine "Dance Dance Revolution", Mickey at Tokyo Disneyland seems to have more similar choreography...
It’s a dance from “モーニング娘” which OP song is referencing from. Original song is from 1997 which Denji’s time period and Morning Musume was popular idle group at the time. Name of the song is “そうだ！we’re alive” which the OP song borrows the lyric of “努力、未来、a beautiful star”
It's definitely not from mickey mouse clubhouse. The intro is probably made in japan and I'm 200% sure they dont even know wtf mickey mouse clubhouse is over there.
I think it could be both, having it be Mickey is hilarious and I wouldnt put it past Fujimoto at all, but Kobeni dance also makes alot of sense. I wonder if we'll get the full manga in 12 eps (not likley from our current pacing, so maybe 2 seasons), but when it's time to *VANCE* I am so exited to see what song she is weeping to.
I'm 100% sure it reminds me of something else but I can't put my finger on what exactly. It looks so much like one of those "teens special greetings" kind of things? like the you bump, clap, high five on the back, bump your shoes etc.
Everything does not deserve to be judged, but it can be criticized with logic and facts. For example: "the lower amount of melanine on your white skin won't protect you from the sun as the same way of a human with more melanin." Or "Your dark skin can be used to hide in the darkness so you'll sneak in first"
Doesnt matter, u cant flex on them bcs saying its kobeni dance it would spoil a lot. Imagine them asking and why is she dancing, and ur like unable to say it cuz it would spoil them
If it was really a mickey mouse reference we would hear Disney get butthurt over it demanding it to be taken down considering how pathetic that company is.
I feel like no one has pointed this out at all yet. But this replicates the Kid n Play dance from House Party perfectly, the toe taps and the turn around is a perfect resemblance. I see people say it's an Idol group dance but I don't see it. The Lyrics yes but dance no. Kid n Play Dance from House Party
your voice sounds like your gonna talk about anime swords and talk about the information where it came and how its gonna work and ranking them on a shorts video.
The thing that keeps catching my eye with their dance is how they are tapping the inside of their feet together on alternating sides. I'm no dance expert, but I could have sworn there was a kind of dance that involved both dancers kicking their leg out, tapping them together and then switching sides, all while twisting your upper body to maintain balance/just add flair to the dance.
I get what you mean, but Mickey crossed his foot inward while also swinging his arms and torso the opposite direction if the foot being kicked, just like Power and Denji here, while Daisy, Donald, Goofy and Minnie did the kick inward, as you said. Edit: turns out, it's neither. Kenshi Yonozu, the anime composer, has gone on the record to mention that the Power and Denji dance comes from a Morning Musume choreography 😅
Well to be fair, majority of those who thought it was the Mickey Mouse dance haven't read the manga (or that specific part of the manga). Also agree, the Mickey Mouse dance was funnier.
Actually I'm more inclined to believe most fans that believe the dance is a reference to Mickey did read the manga or at least that part of the manga and kobeni's dance just didn't pop into their heads. Even I read the manga and saw the dance as more similar to mickey than kobeni because kobeni's dance wasn't in my mind when I saw them dance in the intro
Yeah i havent read the mickey mouse clubhouse manga yet. Thanks for spoiling 😪
@@kikyoism I’M SORRY 🫣
@@Kaiju-bm4ts it's not a reference to kobeni dance though
@@Dr.HooWho it's most likely not a reference to anything and it's just a random dance that fits both characters that coincidentally can be connected to any dance from any media
It looks more like the Kobeni dance cuz if they weren’t hunting devils, you know Power and Denji would be at the arcade all day hogging the DDR machines
Ye
Just based on the images alone I don’t think it’s the Kobeni dance. They don’t kick their legs out in the panels and they do in the hotdog dance.
I haven’t read the manga so no spoilers.
Do DDR machine still exist.
Im assuming theres alot in japan. In my country. The arcade only have the typical Scam Crane, some Digimon/Pokemon card game and maybe a Jurrasic Park game and fishing frenzy.
@@bananagod5530 I don’t know about DDR specifically, but I know a quite a few Japanese games are music based.
@@bananagod5530 There's a Japanese chain entertainment center called Round 1 that has a lot of them. But the only country I know that it's expanded to is the states.
DDRA is the current series that has a special golden machine editon. Then there's their spiritual successors, Dance Evolution that while discontinued, was pretty much mo cap that required actual dancing. And the difficulties were how much you had to follow the professional choreography.
Dance Rush Stardom that simplifies it to just being a borderless freestyle pressure mat so a lot of dancing is based on actual shuffles and footwork than DDR's rigid stomps and taps.
And the last and newest, Dance aRound which is a combination of the last two, having a dedicated vertical camera, but there's not much songs yet.
Reference or not it’s fucking funny
FAX!
your telling me i havent been getting hot dog hot dog hot diggity fucking dog but i have been hitting the kobeni the whole time?
@@TheMostLoyalOfThemAll you can hit both
I'm afraid of stopping this dance.The Disney has large power , so they strict for copies and hommages. If this dance was deleted, I will be disappointed. Denji and Power are very cute, I think.
The Mickey Mouse Devil must be terrifying.
Bro, if Disney have no problem with someone using their Winny the Poo design for a low budget horror Slasher movie, I think you're fine here,
@@zackbrangen1528 that’s cause Winnie the Pooh is in the public domain now so the design and concept are free to use
@@xvx_cooldude69_xvx43 that yellow deign is Disney Original, they can sue them for copyright infringement if they want, but they let it slide.
@@zackbrangen1528 Pooh was always yellow. The red shirt is original to Disney. As long as they don’t have that, they’re good
I don't even think it's a reference. It's just them acting in character.
fr they just be vibin
No boring introduction, no long videos, just to the point.
Other people have already said it, but, in an interview with the production, it was mentioned that the dance came from the idol group Morning Musume. So it's actually neither, unless it turns out Kobeni is also dancing to Morning Musume. In any case, I like all three, the canon (Morning Musume) the maybe canon (Kobeni DDR), and the fandom headcanon (Mickey Mouse Hot Dog Dance).
I'm still keeping my personal headcanon that Aki, realizing the education of this two gremlins was pretty lacking, made them watch Mickey Mouse Clubhouse to teach them basic stuff, and it ended up backfiring him bc Denji and Power didn't learn squat, but absolutely adored the show and would celebrate a day's job well done dancing Hot Dog. In fact, I also headcanon that, after his character development caused by certain traumatic events, before enrolling in [redacted], Denji, in preparation, rewatched the entire show, now paying attention to the learning aspect of it, legit believing the knowledge within was all he needed to go to [redacted].
And now he has a kid to show Mickey Mouse as well
ミッキーマウスのダンスは日本では全く有名ではないですからね
I think I want my 24 seconds back
Titled The REAL Denji and Power dance Reference but nothing in
Carbon Lazi is a liar and he have never been loved irl
Kobeni's dance is probably the song "Butterfly" recorded in the game machine "Dance Dance Revolution",
Mickey at Tokyo Disneyland seems to have more similar choreography...
I know the rest of the OP is filled with references, but not *everything* has to be some secret reference. I think they're just.. dancing
this
Nah. Its a reference.
or perhaps everything *is* a reference and not everything has to not have some secret reference
My life is a reference 😭
@@dr.michaelmorbius7943 to my life
What do you think the kobeni dance was referencing?
It all comes back to the club house
A genius right here
👑
bro who are you??! a genius!!
Holy shit...
Breaking News: Female Pizza worker forced to play DDR for Chainsaw weilding madlad.
i don’t think people thought of it as a reference, it’s just that the song fit with the dance
Yeah
They did, moron
I just love that Kobeni is crying through the whole thing. It is a time of merriment, but no merriment is to be had! Not for that one!
It’s a dance from “モーニング娘” which OP song is referencing from. Original song is from 1997 which Denji’s time period and Morning Musume was popular idle group at the time. Name of the song is “そうだ！we’re alive” which the OP song borrows the lyric of “努力、未来、a beautiful star”
I still remember dancing the hotdog dance at the end of Mickey mouse segment when i was a kid
Who didn’t?
@@expertarcher8542 a kid in a wheel chair
@@jtotheulian708 well-
no one is talking about how Aki cuts the footage by summoning his devil to eat it
"how hard should I try to make these two things connect that have nothing to do with each other?"
"Yes"
I still think it is a reference to the mickey mouse show because of the tune, it is pretty similar to the intro at that point.
Hot dog hot dog hot digity doooooooog
Ykw, with the amount of fucking references in the opening, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a reference to Mickey Mouse Clubhouse
They'll realize it's the kobeni dance when they see it, it's all coldly calculated
What if Kobeni's dance is a reference to the Mikey Mouse clubhouse dance, making that final opening scene a double reference?
the dances arent the same tho. Kobeni kicks behind while they kick forward
Mickey mouse canon in chainsaw man universe
It could be a reference to Community
I didn't think anyone ACTUALLY thought it was from Mackey mouse clubhouse lol
makes more sense that its a mickey mouse reference, but I also thought it was the Kobeni dance
In dance dance revolution they don’t usually kick their feet out like they did in the opening.
how
doryoku miraie a beautiful star....
It seems to be a reference of morning musume's dance in souda! we're alive even the OP's chorus has lyrics from the song
I don't think that it's a reference to Mickey Mouse, but the fact that it sincs to the tune is just pure Gold.
I want to believe that kobeni dance was a reference to clubhouse dance and this is a reference to kobeni dance
I'll believe whichever is funnier
I never realized that this looks like Hot dog dance 😂 now I can never unsee this
It's definitely not from mickey mouse clubhouse. The intro is probably made in japan and I'm 200% sure they dont even know wtf mickey mouse clubhouse is over there.
My head cannon is that it's referencing the kobeni dance which is referencing the hot dog dance
The whole opening is full of references
This knowledge must not be spread. The Mickey Mouse belief must be spread.
Goofy and Pluto is a chainsaw man reference REAL
probably one of their co-workers after a long day and good night of drinking.
The mouse is funnier, so I'm sticking with that.
I think it could be both, having it be Mickey is hilarious and I wouldnt put it past Fujimoto at all, but Kobeni dance also makes alot of sense. I wonder if we'll get the full manga in 12 eps (not likley from our current pacing, so maybe 2 seasons), but when it's time to *VANCE* I am so exited to see what song she is weeping to.
Maybe... Maybe...
But is funnier to think they're dancing to the Hot Dog dance while Aki is watching
those two shares a single braincell and i have never had a doubt about it
Bro they are just hitting the griddy
Maybe they are just dancing
It's actually from a outdoor kid games
THEY JUST HITTING THE GRIDDY MAN
To be fair (as well) the scene with the mickey mouse music is perfect
I didn't recognize that kobeni dance until you said it even i already read manga 4th times.
I did see the Kobeni dance in it but it's funnier to think it's the Hotdog dance
I think this dance is a reference to the chainsaw man opening
Hotdog
this makes me happy cuz mickey mouse clubhouse was part of my childhood!!
Please tell me I'm not the only one who hears ievan polkka every time they show that dance
FMJ is the only Mickey Mouse club version I'll accept
Mickey's dance, not at all famous in Japan!
I couldn't even understand why it was talked about that way!
I'm 100% sure it reminds me of something else but I can't put my finger on what exactly. It looks so much like one of those "teens special greetings" kind of things? like the you bump, clap, high five on the back, bump your shoes etc.
I believe the one doing the kobeni dance is the future devil in the scene right before this
The thing is this, if you see that dance on loop the first song that comes to your mind its the mickey mouse song xD
Nah bro they hittin the griddy 🥶
It's a reference to how I dance sometimes
I got so much nostalgia when I saw them doing the hot dog dance.
QUEEE BIENN tutututuru QUEEE BIENN tutututuru
I hope it isnt mickey mouse reference... You know what kind of massacre disney can do to this series.
根據訪談
作曲家米津玄師表示
這段舞蹈源自於偶像團體早安少女的其中一段編舞
うーん、そうです。
When I first heard "Mickey Mouse dance" I thought they were going to be dancing like he does in "Steamboat Willie"; I was wrong.
House party the dance scene they do those exact movements
That voice........I fucking love it
Kobeni! More Kobeni
Mappa has a lot references in the opening
Crazy studio man
I think that people should not be judged by the color of their skin but by the contents of their character maybe
no
Nah, fuck nigg-
@@HololiveCatalogue * Bring Me the Horizon intensifies *
I think people should be judged by the color of the content of the their character.
Everything does not deserve to be judged, but it can be criticized with logic and facts.
For example: "the lower amount of melanine on your white skin won't protect you from the sun as the same way of a human with more melanin."
Or
"Your dark skin can be used to hide in the darkness so you'll sneak in first"
Doesnt matter, u cant flex on them bcs saying its kobeni dance it would spoil a lot. Imagine them asking and why is she dancing, and ur like unable to say it cuz it would spoil them
i know that you know that we know that he knows, denji and power would 100% do the mickey mouse clubhouse dance
They are referencing "Tilin" a humilty kid that has a viral video on internet.
As soon as i saw mickey mouse i sang M I C K E Y MO US E
If it was really a mickey mouse reference we would hear Disney get butthurt over it demanding it to be taken down considering how pathetic that company is.
In fact, the dance reference is from a well-known video like "eso tilin."
im gonna keep deluding myself into thinking its a reference to mickey mouse bc power and denji would definitely hit that hot diggity dog
I feel like no one has pointed this out at all yet. But this replicates the Kid n Play dance from House Party perfectly, the toe taps and the turn around is a perfect resemblance. I see people say it's an Idol group dance but I don't see it. The Lyrics yes but dance no.
Kid n Play Dance from House Party
I like to think that the Kobeni dance itself is a reference to the mickey mouse clubhouse dance
i loooove this OP sooo much.
I heard ot was house party with the dance off scene and that fits a bit better its about a third the way through the house party scene
It's skanking from ska music. I can't believe I'm the only one that recognized it.
In my heart it will always be a mickey mouse reference
Bold of u to think the kobeni dance wasnt micky mouse ref itself
your voice sounds like your gonna talk about anime swords and talk about the information where it came and how its gonna work and ranking them on a shorts video.
I thought it was a community reference with the extra thick straps dance 💀
i thought they were getting sturdy
The thing that keeps catching my eye with their dance is how they are tapping the inside of their feet together on alternating sides. I'm no dance expert, but I could have sworn there was a kind of dance that involved both dancers kicking their leg out, tapping them together and then switching sides, all while twisting your upper body to maintain balance/just add flair to the dance.
Hot dog hot dog hot diggidi dawg
In my opinion it looks a little more like the hot dog dance from mickey mouse but it could be Kobeni's dance.
You’re all wrong. It’s the Eso Tilin dance. Look it up
*clears throat 78 times*
The TF2 engineer's conga
Its probably not that but i find it funny
My guess is, it is the kobeni dance because of the footwork. The foot crossed inward instead of of outward like the hotdog dance.
I get what you mean, but Mickey crossed his foot inward while also swinging his arms and torso the opposite direction if the foot being kicked, just like Power and Denji here, while Daisy, Donald, Goofy and Minnie did the kick inward, as you said.
Edit: turns out, it's neither. Kenshi Yonozu, the anime composer, has gone on the record to mention that the Power and Denji dance comes from a Morning Musume choreography 😅
im not sure about the dance but the last part when they're back to back looks like how goofy or Donald danced lol
i with mean the amount of other references in the op i wouldnt doubt it tbh and it would be pretty funny if it is a micky mouse club house reference
I mean it kinda looks like the kobeni dance, but who knows, maybe we could get a scene that wasn't in the manga of these two doing this dance
The Kobeni dance is already referenced earlier in the opening
the kobeni dance is a reference of micky mouse dance so denji and power dance is a double reference