Tchaikovsky 1812 Overture USSR State Symphony Orchestra Evgeny Svetlanov 1974
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- The best rendition in my opinion of tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture. Play this during New Year, 14min before midnight (11:46pm) at full volume. Awesome combination with fireworks in the background.
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I like it with slavsya at the end. Don't know why people are complaining, it sounds good and, besides, they don't play it like this anymore. Quit griping and enjoy the music for what it is.
I was expecting to hear the Soviet National Anthem in this version but this is badass too
5 descendants of Nicholas II disliked this
Despite the fact "God save the Tzar" has been shrewdly replaced with "Glory to the Motherland," hence the "USSR" version.
The original clowns on Tzarist Russia too, if you know your history. Written for the dedication of a church the Tzar personally wanted built...but the Tzar only had it half-built with scaffolding on it at the time 1812 premiered. I really like listening to both versions but being a communist this is the version I listen to in summer as my way to give the finger to US appropriation, and I listen to the original in the winter to celebrate Napoleon's defeat. Being unfortunately born in the US, Napoleon has to be one of the biggest villians in all of history (Lousiana Purchase and the genocide that lead to) so his defeats are worth celebrating.
@@WillCMay Lol, you serious?
@@WillCMayL commie
Lets take them a "picture"
Эта пьеса звучит в редакции В. Я. Шебалина, который сделал всего одно изменение: в конце увертюры Петр Ильич процитировал гимн "Боже, царя храни", редактор на это место вставил "Славься" М. И. Глинки, творчество которого Чайковский обожал. Кстати, Евгений Федорович в 90-х годах сделал запись в авторской редакции. И оба варианта равновелики. Да, автор недолюбливал это детище, потому что писал его вспешке и по заказу.
Now I understand what Svetlanov did in this version of the 1812 Overture: he plays at the end the hymn "Glory Holy Russia" instead of "God Save the Czar". I wonder what would have been Tchaikovsky's reaction had he been able to hear this version.
Edgardo Sanabria Santaliz He wouldn't have cared. Seriously, look it up. He saw 1812 as pure spectacle without substance.
Most likely wouldnt care because he didn't like 1812 overture himself
He hated the piece- but we’d have to know how Tchaikovsky would have reacted to the revolution to know if he’d care or not.
@@jakeladerman9543 With what I know about Tchaikovsky I think he would have supported the revolution. We obviously cannot say for sure but let's say the obvious: the Bolshevic party approved of Tchaikovsky with the only exception being little snipits of his music which included God Save the Tzar. Those snipits which would've been ordered by royal commissioners (they would've said something like "use God Save the Tzar to represent our victory over Napoleon") and not his choice to include.
@@WillCMay You left a lot of comments over the course of 4 years, some of which are blatantly false. The Bolsheviks only approved of Tchaikovsky so they could use him for propaganda purposes; he was never a Marxist or even coming close to this. It's the same as that the Soviets appropriated Tolstoy and Pushkin for their own use, despite their non-Marxist views, among others. You said that Tchaikovsky deliberately was trying to mock Tsarist Russia because of Cathedral of Christ the Savior (only rebuilt recently), but this is entirely your own interpretation of this, there's no proof that this is deliberate. And you said through this interpretation, he "mocks the incompetent tsar". You realize this was written in 1880 right? The tsar in this year was the reformist Alexander II who freed the serfs and was trying to reform to constitutionalism before he was murdered. Really no reason even a Marxist would dislike him so much. And how do you go from being a libertarian socialist who thinks the Soviets are authoritarians to supporting them?
Tears of joy and musically magical experience. Only the Russians can perform Tchaikovsky like this. From the deep cello's and basses to the snares and French horns, the heart of these technically accomplished artists is expressed beautifully. Their music has great depth of feeling, emotion and critical timing, even the triangle sings in a special Russian way. It is this unique understanding and pure interpretation of their most adored composer that becomes transformed via their strings and fingers into a momentary vision of Heaven.
I had the honor of watching the Mariinsky/kirov ballet perform Tchaikovsky’s sleeping beauty. I will never forget that experience
14:14 Soviet gov change this part into Slavsya, but in original one used to be God Save the Tsar
I first heard this version in Moscow, 1972, and spoke with Svetlanov about the alternative hymn. Not butchery as some wrote, nor would Tschaikovsky roll in the grave over it. This form was a sketch Ilytch lined out before the cannon inspiration, stemming from Beethoven's Wellington's Victory. It is different, and a refreshing alternative- like hearing Mussorgsky as he wrote, instead of the Rimsky-Korsakov "corrected" versions. Thanks for putting this up....
1) THANK YOU!!! It drives me insane that people claim Tschaikovsky would roll over in his grave over this
2) Surprised Sventlanov was brave enoughto agknolege the egsistance of the imperial version, given that the Soviet Union was as authoritarian as you can get. Politically I do consider myself a socialist but I'm more of a libertarian socialist (basically socialism+free speech absolutist) than soviet style socialism.
Edit 4 years later: This comment made me full communist. It resulted in me doing research outside of what I was taught in school, I now full on accept the Soviets as being on the right side of history full stop, and I listen to this version of 1812 every summer as a subtle jab at US appropriation of the piece. That said I do like both versions of 1812, the original inadvertantly clowns on the Tzar because that church it was written for the dedication of was in scaffolding, which made the Tzar look like the incompetant clown he was.
Nah, it's considered as slightly butchery, this version used three and a half lines from Slavsya to make a bad music progression, rather than use two and a half lines from God Save the Tsar to make a well music progression
@@m.rizalarvandy4510 If you don't like it guess what? There is no shortage of recordings that use God Save The Tzar on this very website. In fact, if you stumble apon this version you probably went looking for it. Appreciate it for the historical value or don't click on it. Also this version of 1812 was critical to my development as a composer. It made clear to me that you could have an original piece of music comprised of existing themes, as I never realised God Save the Tzar was in 1812, thinking the previous few bars repeated was the melody, in fact a few years ago after hearing this I remember going back to see what was taken out. That lesson has definately helped me with composing music myself.
やっぱり、これは純粋にいい演奏だと思う。
マスカーニがファシズムの熱烈な支持者であったかどうかにかかわらず、カヴァレリアルスティカーナ間奏曲の甘美な曲に世界が酔いしれるように。
美しいものは美しい。素晴らしいものは素晴らしい。
WE ESCAPING THE CATACOMBS WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯
Freaking Brilliant. Tchaikovsky is forever one of the greatest.
Quem nunca chorou com a introdução dessa obra NÃO TÊM ALMA! Those who never cried with the introduction of this masterpiece HAVE NO SOUL!
When I was into the hardest moment around 10 years ago , I cried with this music on the trip .
Tchaikovsky was and IS he greater russian composer...wanderfull overture....thank you
Soy de Argentina y esta cancion es genial, una obra de arte, increiblemente bella y estimulante sobre todo el final
Totally and absolutely festive!
@Inness54 I bought the recording at GUM on my first international concert tour to the USSR, and after bringing it back to the states, it was promptly stolen by a "friend." Not since then have I heard this. This performance was IMPOSSIBLE to obtain anywhere outside the USSR... until now. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I know this comment is 11 years old.. but it's crazy to think of listening to this in 1974, losing it, and never being able to listen to it or obtain it again... until 37 years later. That is the wonder of the internet to me. It is the ability for lost things to be found once again with ease.
I've been looking for this particular version for months. So beautiful.
You've got to appreciate this for the historical value. It isn't the best version out there (taking out God Save the Tsar doesn't mean you need to take out the cannons, in fact I might add cannons to this version if I ever get the proper editing software) but it is still very good.
if this had the cannons in it, it would be the most epic recording ever
I used to have this Svetlanov version with a different, "USSR" coda at the end on a Japanese LP. Thank you for posting this great recording.
The best version ever-if there only would not be this maimed end!
Magnificent version!!!! BRAVO!!!
Yevgeny Svetlanov is one of my top-5 preferred conductors, but it's not the same without the cannon end of story
For real, if it had cannons it would be the best version out there
Wonderful! First time I've heard it with this particular ending. Sounds like the original score was changed a bit, but I like it! Thank you for posting!
The Tzarist national anthem was removed (at least the sections which were easily recognisable as it, the recordings that have choir make clear that the tale end of God Save the Tzar is still there), replaced with a section of the Soviet military march "Glory to the Motherland".
@@WillCMay
Well now, here I was thinking the 1812 Overture was all original composition by Tchaikovsky. But now I know better. Because of your comment, I looked up Glory to Our Motherland and God Save the Tsar. 😂
@@creativeplanetjanet It's not uncommon for composers to quote existing material for a piece that tells a story (the battle of Russia vs Napoleon). In 1812, Le Marsellais is featured very prominantly (even though Napoleon banned it, it's recognisable to represent the French), the Russian Orthadox hymn Spasai Gospodi comes up twice (listen to the viola/cello choir at the beginning and the section where the military band comes in, you may notice some similarities), there's also a Russian folk song and one of Tchaikovsky's own operas in there. Learning about all of this was a crutial point in my development as a composer. And to be clear, it is all original still, the pieces quoted are often a fairly simplistic melodic framework. Crafting them into a grand orchestral score takes as much effort as if there wasn't something being referenced.
@@WillCMay
I did not go to any 4th of July fireworks shows tonight, but I am listening to this right now, volume cranked way up. This really is a great version.
Una obra maestra interpretada por rusos. La primera vez que la escuche fue hace unos 20 años, en un disco de vinilo que tenia mi abuelo. A mi juicio creo que es una de las mejores versiones de la pieza.
At last!A version without the the bloody 'God save the Tsar''!And yes,I like this better than the original version.
MultiTchaikovsky I wouldn't necessarily call it better, but it has nothing to do with God Save the Tzar vs. Glory, and more to do with cannons. You might be interested in something I'll be posting later this month (this version with party poppers as cannons).
Both of you are cringe.
Nothing equals the still thrilling 1954 Antal Dorati/Minneapolis SO, with West Point cannon and carillons!
Just came here to testify that I played this on New Year.
Not one of my favorite versions, although Svetlanov is without a doubt one of the great Russian conductors of his time.
i used to listen to a 78 of this version when i was about 14...and enjoyed i a lot...its was so old the bells sounded like a lot of pots and pans being bashed together...the record got broken and i never heard it again till today!...by the way do you know the composition Tchaikovsky wrote that incorporated something that sounded like the song of the volga boatmen in it....im trying to trace it here......thanks...marty
Alternate ending.
Good version, shame the Soviets demolished the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour where this song premiered.
Well, the church was a Tzarist vanity project with resources that the people needed. And they made an awesome swimming pool out of the foundation. Although even as someone who's very pro-USSR I will admit they should have gone after other churches instead given the music history involved with CoCTS.
@@WillCMayI’d take a sick looking church than a fuckin swimming pool
@@WillCMay Cringe comment.
I wish there is another version that replaced the La Marseillaise with Deutschlandlied so it resembles the Nazi's invasion of Russia.
@raridan1 Why it's not like tchaikovsky was alive during soviet times. But yes I do agree it does need cannons but hey, it's open to re-writing just like every song out there
Switched at 14:15
Oh, the part they replaced though.
What is the name of the alternate piece substituted for God Save the Czar?
Glory
Glory to the Motherland (Techensky) given the context. It was performed at Victory Day in 1945.
How tf is the quality so crisp
@TheDarkSide61862 It is the USSR removing God Save the Tsar..about the imperials..what do you expect?
Sin duda esta version es muy inferior la registrada en 1958 por Antal Dorati al frente de l Sinfonica Minneapolis que sigue pese haber pasado mas de 50 años sin ser superada!!
It HAS to be a prank by the one responsible for the sheet music.
I wonder why this features the french anthem.
I'm afraid you're wrong. The French anthem was written in 1792 by Rouget de Lisle after the French declaration of war to Austria.
That is the whole point of this album . The french national anthem is the french runing away ,Napoleon's retreat from moscow and a Russian VICTORY. This is a very average recording NO real canons and the bell have no depth. Not my favorite recording
versione best
Who is the composer of Glory?
Jim Schoensee Glinka, from A life for the Tsar, apparently.
It's meant to be Glory to the Motherland by Techensky given the context.
This version is for comunist ears only. Give me the original one anytime. The soviets tried, but they couldn't suppress Russia's imperial past forever.
Sencillamente la 1812 es "los cañones y las campanas de Rusia" Sin cañones es una farsa.
No~~~ you removed the best part - cannon... It just like a pretty drawing with no soul.... .... no no no!!!
I personally think the Master rolled over in his grave when this was performed. I enjoyed it right up until the ending was butchered up. The original didn't need to be changed. No cannon? Tchaikovsky wrote the canon fire into the original manuscript at certain places. To not even have a canon in the parking lot is a travesty. I would expect more from the USSR State Symphony Orchestra.
If he would've rolled over it would've been because of this piece being popular, being that he himself saw it as, in modern terms, the Michael Bay symphony. AKA spectacle over substance, and he was none too happy it became popular. Not any changes made to it. And for the record he wasn't a fan of the Tzar but royal compositions were how composers made it back then.
without the choral music, this becomes soulless and lacking the depth the composer meant it to have.
And for you bolshie bastards, LONG LIVE THE TSAR AND HOLY RUSSIA
Ronald Dunne The opening in the strings in this version is the best rendition of Spai Gospodi (whatever it's called). It wasn't originally written with coral music. If that's you're preference, good news, this is RUclips, you've got plenty of coral versions out there.
Now lets discuss the elephant in the room that is the finale. There is no problem taking out God Save the Tzar (they left the ending in actually based on the coral versions, although it's unrecognisable as part of God Save the Tzar). What is a problem is taking out the 1812 theme (we know there wasn't a problem with it, hell they play it when it isn't supposed to go with God Save the Tzar) and cannons with it. The main theme of 1812 could easily stand on it's own without God Save the Tzar. The cannons are an iconic part of the piece, so they should have stayed in. Dispite it's faults at the end this is an incredible performance and I'm glad most people in the comments section seem to realise that.
What the hell was that?
The canons are moot. Seriously, even Tchaikovsky noted in the original score that timpanis could substitute. What WOULD have made the master roll in his grave is how the Soviets always omitted the "God Save the Tsar" theme and substituted it with the USSR national anthem. It is NOT how it was written, and completely ruins the entire piece... And it ruins the story. This is the worst version of all in my opinion.
They never used the anthem of the USSR in this piece lmao
Tchaikovsky was not a fan of 1812, and wasn't happy it became popular (seriously, look it up). I don't think he would have a problem with this knowing what he thought of the piece.
Fail
what's the fail you mean?