I just realised something. Wilfred is pretty much the only soldier in the show the Doctor doesn't immediately dislike. Wilfred was almost certainly conscripted like most men at the time. The Doctor knows Wilfred never wanted to go to war.
The Doctor doesn't like _unnecessary_ soldiers, ones who fight pointless wars & do it for the money, the power trip, or some misplaced sense of honour and duty. The Doctor is more open to WW1 and WW2 soldiers because most of them were just boys that were forced to take up arms. He shows a huge amount of respect for Tim Latimer in Family of Blood at the end, both as a child before leaving 1913, and then at a Rememberance ceremony in 2007. He also has obviously had a huge respect and love for the Brigadier, and understands that UNIT are a necessary force for good in the world, supporting their assault against the Sontarans in Sontaran Stratagem/Poison Sky by informing them of the need to use different ammunition to get around the blocking signal that makes copper bullets unusable. He dislikes that Martha has become a soldier but knows that it was his fault and, by the end, trusts that she will be a valuable source of compassion within UNIT. He also connects with Ross, one of the UNIT grunts, and knows that he's just a good man seeking to defend the planet from hostile aliens. Danny Pink, on the other hand, is someone who fought in a misguided and for-profit illegal war, signing up to go and fight "terrorists" on behalf of an imperialist nation with a goal of plundering the Oil fields in the middle east & installing governments sympathetic to American & British economic goals. Even though he killed an innocent Child and went into teaching, he kept the personality of a soldier, treating the kids in the same way, abusing his position of authority and trying to force this misguided view of blind respect for elders upon them. The same can be said of 10's disgust towards Jack when he finds out that Jack is running Torchwood, knowing what the original Torchwood had been doing pre-Doomsday. He's never quite comfortable with Jack's approach to defending Cardiff, but by Stolen Earth/Journey's End understands again that they're a necessary evil to fight the more aggressive threats that people like Sarah Jane aren't equipped for. 11 shows some respect for the soldiers in The Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone, even though they fight in the name of Christianity, same for the ones in When a Good Man Goes to War. They're misguided, but he doesn't have a hatred for them like he does for guns & cowards. Same for 12 with Gallifreyan soldiers that lay down their weapons in Hell Bent, & the General. Wilf may not have taken a life in the war, but he faced the possibility of his death with courage, and took pride in the patriotism and ideals that have been lost in the generations since.
@Whiteytheripper Wilf never served during the Second World War though. He was too young and joined afterwards (whether by volunteering or through National service) serving in Palestine in '47 and most likely other British engagements of the early cold War period...which were mostly in the area of decolonisation and economic/strategic interest not far of from what you described Danny's War as. My point being is I don't think the doctor really cared about why (most of the time) but care more about their personalities as one should in my opinion. While Wilf was an elderly fellow he was optimistic about the future, had a keen eye for space exploration and generally had a good demeanor about him always trying to lighten the mood and care for his loved ones. Danny on the other had was quite different and opposite in some ways being of a more pessimistic character, having guilt over killing an innocent child in combat and being cynical to the possibilities of what could be outside of earth's reach (pretty much the first point) but still had care for his loved ones and understood the importance of respect.
@@nihilus1650 Wilf did end up in Palestine but from what i understand he enlisted in ww2 while underage which wasn't uncommon back then. After that I doubt he had much choice in where he was stationed. Not trying to argue though I'm aware this is a somewhat old comment and I agree with your point generally just saying my piece in case anyone else is scrolling comments like I am.
I had no idea murray gold’s music hadn’t really won any awards, that’s insane to me. He is a genius composer and the music in doctor who is incredible.
As a 60 year old man who has loved the Doctor's adventures all his life, I'd just like to say "Thank you". Very thought-provoking. A fantastic achievement. Believe me when I tell you that you will always be inspired by the Doctor, creatively and morally. You have a great life in front of you if you use that inspiration in a creative way. I did and am now film director myself. So too did RTD, Moffat and even Chibnall. My journey started with the anarchy and impetuousness of Tom Baker's Doctor along with discovering the movie 'Close Encounters of The Third Kind' (which encompasses a lot of the multifaceted themes Doctor Who does) and I have tried to use the moral code, unpredictability, joy and friendliness of the good Doc as my compass throughout my life. I have been happy because of it. I hope it has worked for others. Thanks again for all the work you've put into the video.
@@Brub52 I was sat in front of it by parents, who hadn't an inkling what it was about, in the early Sixties. I was mesmerised by it - funnily enough, William Hartnell used the same expression about The Doctor! My parents thought they'd made a mistake, switched it off, but I complained so much that they switched it back on again. I've only missed one episode in the, now designated, Classic Era, because of a holiday at a relative's that didn't have a television, and recently one or two - I've not seen the current series yet. I just love the Surrealism of Doctor Who and it's Wellsian/Quatermass Laplacian mix. Everything that has/can/will happen - where do you want to start? Couldn't resist.
I too am 60 and Dr Who has been part of my life since I first watched in 1965 (Galaxy Four), and would like to endorse your comments, especially a very big 'Thank You' to Brub52 for all your hard work.
I love this outlook. I try to use the Doctor’s morals, fun outlook and optimism in my every day life. I’m 19 so it’s amazing to see the completely undefined age group of Doctor Who viewers! I’m so glad that people at your fine age still enjoy this show, it really shows how much of an impact it can make on a person. I definitely have a different outlook on life as to what I could’ve had if I never watched this show… but as the Doctor rightfully says, “we all change, when you think about it. We’re all different people all through our lives. And that’s ok, that’s good, you gotta keep moving, so long as you remember all the people that you used to be.” That doesn’t just apply to Time Lords you know.
I think one of the greatest things about this show is its ability to evoke emotion. One minute you may be full of joy and laughter, the next you're inconsolable with tears and sadness. Doctor Who means so much to so many, and I hope it will continue to do so in the years to come. Allons-y!
This is so true. I have shed many tears on doctor who. My mom grew up with it and she was born in Afghanistan. She is as old as the show. I’m gen z and enjoy it. She later asked me if she would like the revival show as her favorite doctor is the 4th
You said this better than I can than I could. Tom Baker answered questions from Australian school kids. Did he come up with the monsters, were the monsters scary, others. He says it's melodrama, ... [the monsters are not real and have rubber masks and the emotions are real] .I I always said it was silly fun, low budget, and suddenly profound.
Wow it just struck me with Chibnall's era Series 11: Chibnall trying his way. Series 12: Chibnall trying to do Russell T Davies. Series 13: Chibnall trying to do Steven Moffat.
Not really, making long narratives are kinda his thing. Series 11 was weird because chibnall was not experienced in not making multi part stories. You can see how much he crams into his single part stories. Spy fall is where he realises this. Unfortunately he only makes on more two parter. But flux was a missed opportunity as he picked up some bad habits along the way so the connected story was filled with junk.
Yeah, it would probably be: Series 11: Chibnall trying to do Russel T Davies (but with less episodes, less good ideas, and no serialization) Series 12: Chibnall trying to do Steven Moffat (but with no mystery, no subtlety, and a handful of retcons) Series 13: Chibnall trying to do Doctor Who his way (but with even fewer episodes, no pacing, and way too many characters and ideas)
In tone, characters, monsters, ideas I mean. Series 11 he was trying to do orignal concepts but ended up being as dull as dishwater. Series 12 borrows ideas, plots, tone from Russell, i.e. Master, "for Galifrey", Judoon, the button "BECOME DEATH DOCTOR": master/dalek emperor, fob watch, secret doctor/master, Captain Jack and a villian saying to the Tardis team "you're public enemies numbers 1, 2 and 3" (Spyfall/Last of the Time Lords). Series 13 flux, more Steven Moffat in plots within plots, timey wimey narrative changes, trying to be more self aware, weeping angels this time. That sort of thing really. Whoops I said borrow, I mean out right take.
Here is how I felt when I watched Season 11 for the first time: (Woman Who Fell To Earth) Okay, that was decent. A little too long, and dull in parts, but okay. (Ghost Monument) Okay, so we are walking... and we are walking some more... and now we are resting... and now we're walking again... (Rosa) And now we are watching a high school documentary about Rosa Parks, but there's a racist from the future in there too... huh? (Arachnids in the UK) And now we are Trump Bashing... After those first four episodes, I knew Chibnall and I had completely different ideas about what Doctor Who is supposed to be like.
About the romance. I think it has a deeper purpose that the show can really benefit from. Rose was the first character and primary audience identification figure in the first season of doctor who. You speak of how an audience can fall in love with the character, so it makes sense to me that the audience identification can fall in love with the character as well. A man comes along and shows you all of time and space. He takes you away from your boring life into the magical. That giant sense of wonder the show creates with that premise can definitely convert itself into a romance. The other side is if the doctor should reciprocate those feelings. If it is baseless, then no. But I think the Doctor-Rose dynamic is strong enough because of the role Rose has taken in the post-war doctor's life. She shows him the good side of life and helps him heal, but is also there to show a certain kindness the character needs to, but currently lacks. This is a topic that keeps getting explored within the 10th doctor's run far past the Rose-Doctor relationship. The way they add to each other makes the romance work for me. They complete each other in the most true sense. And although that can get lost in the cheezyness of the episodes. The core is strong enough to make the relationship meaningful. The Clara-Doctor dynamic is very different because, honestly, I think it was just there as a lead-up for Capaldi. It is a mostly one-sided love from Clara's side. The doctor does just enough to make it look like a budding romance, but it isn't that strong. Then Capaldi barges onto the scene and we need to deal with moving on from pretty young doctors to an old, grumpy man. I think it was smart to make Clara an audience surrogate figure. Deep Breath spends a lot of time on making the audience/Clara feel comfortable with this shift, which I think was very necessary. The last "old" doctor was in the 80s. It makes sense to transform the budding romance, which was barely starting out, into a friendship. That helps the general audience to connect to this character again. The problem is that this got lost in the anniversary hype. Clara was there for a lot of important moments, that were mostly 50th anniversary buildup (the timeline stuff, day of the doctor, etc.). She was new, so needed a role there, and got a pretty important one as "the person who guided the doctor through his entire life". This made their bond seem way more important than it realistically was ever meant to be. That's what I speculate at least.
Yes. In addition, the rose doctor relationship is so relatively healthy. Rose goes from naive to confident, the romance evolves with it. The doctor isn't romantic with naive rose. They both make their views known, and rose is almost aggressive in making what she wants known.
You focus on "old" (Capaldi is roughly my age!!!!), PC understood the character, he, like me, was terrified by the Mondasian Cybermen. To me, he was a great Doctor, but burdened by subpar plots and labyrinthine story arcs. Any romantic story involving Rose and the Doctor was always creepy. They even have a conversation about a 19 year old girl travelling with a 900 year old man. Until the Paul McGann TV movie, the Doctor was a mysterious, asexual alien exiled from his own planet for reasons unknown. That was the charm, the mystery, the separation between us and the Doctor and his people. The Doctor stood alone, having friends and travelling companions but other than Susan, no one with whom he had a real, deep relationship. Everyone left him, or was taken away (Zoe and Jamie). The Doctor of 2022 is a soap character, but with no real character development or personality. Now we are faced with a lesbian relationship between the millennia old Time Lord / Timeless Child (please retcon that, RTD) and another girl barely out of her teens. Emmerdale in Space
Something to add: the Doctor isn’t asexual and he hasn’t been since his inception, one of the first things we learn about William Hartnell’s Doctor is that he has a granddaughter which would only be possible if he had a lover and a child with them. I’d say that we see the Doctor as asexual because he distances himself from creatures, not that he is asexual *because* he distances himself.
@@filthycasual8187 I don't think the show will ever be as good as the pre-Chibnall eras, but I'm just hoping Davies can improve upon the show somewhat (it'd be pretty hard to make the show worse at this point). Also, while I don't think he'll retcon anything (unfortunately), I'm optimistic that he's still got what it takes to keep the show entertaining.
@Qwerty Qwistle Yeah, saying it would never be as good as it was before was pretty pessimistic on my end. Long-running shows do tend to worsen in writing quality over time, however, so I see my take as a sort of mix of pessimism and realism. I'm no expert on what makes a show entertaining, so I could be wrong (here's hoping I am). :D
@@domoslomo1 I think that if DW continues for decades to come, there will definetly be more seasons better than pre-chibs. This show has had many ups and downs, season 11-13 are just a small bad era just like seasons 22-24
I can't tell you how glad I am that this video was recommended to me, we seem to share a lot of similar opinions on Doctor Who and hearing all of this analysed in such a wonderful way just felt really special. You did an absolutely tremendous job here and I only hope this video is pushed out to more people. Thanks for writing such an in depth love letter to something that means so much to me and so many others.
@@LazerzZ dude you say that like you didn't make 3 videos totaling nearly 7 hours on the witcher 3 and its DLC🤣 ( Ps. I've watched all 3 twice now, quality videos)
In defense of the romance, seeing Rose and the doctor in love and just having fun and laughing is just pure joy to me. They could do it as friends but as a couple makes it so much better. It's the happiest a television series has ever made me in those moments.
I agree with you,,,it made me both happy and sad too, (Rose I the doctor,),,this was an exceptional video, loved it,,,,but not just teenagers like a lil romance, brub52 talked of all the beautiful qualities of the doctor, how could you not be attracted to him,
I have no problem with The Doctor having romantic feelings for Rose because you can tell that he feels like he needs that level of comfort because of the time war but also understands that it can't happen because he will outlive her, and I think you can see this with the half-human Doctor because he instantly confesses his love for her because he knows they can grow old together. I also never felt romantic love between 11 and Clara and I think he has such an interest in her because she keeps appearing throughout time
It ok for the Dr to fall in love problem with rose is she so full of her self expeshily when she returns and he talking and she like I was here just I'm like wait a moment if anyone can say that in that video call is sara Jane Smith
_"Now d'you see why I don't use guns?"_ is the best line Missy never had and you can NOT change my mind. Seriously. Rejecting guns to imply she's adopting some of the Doctor's morals, only to use a more deadly alternative instead is perfect Missy writing. Stating that guns are beneath her not because they're unethical, _but because they're inefficient_ may well beat anything we saw in Series 10 in terms of her development. *The fact that it's the Doctor's line is so wrong.*
That is such an amazing point, holy shit... this is also the best thing i've ever heard that i can use to illustrate how badly chibnall assassinated Jodie's Doctor's character.
Why is it whenever I find a random Doctor Who video I haven't seen yet you're always here first? I am once again asking every random person who decides to make a video essay on Doctor Who to read Eruditorum Press and/or the Black Archives before commenting. smh.
I think that Murray Gold’s use of the character themes elevated the show so much that listening to his music made me realize why I fell in love with the characters. His work reminds me a lot of Yoko Shimomura’s Kingdom Hearts character themes and how they just wreck you
I really really like and appreciate your final comments on Chibnall's era. I hate how toxic, negative and cynical a lot of the discourse has become around it, even though I agree that it is bad. It only makes the ordeal worse, it is devastating and heart-breaking enough that Jodie, Mandip, and the rest of the cast were not able to shine, that the amazing opportunities of the first female doctor were squandered. We shouldn't also spread division and conflict by walking all over what others enjoy.
Man, thank you so much. I agree to an uncanny level. The eruption and division of the Doctor Who community over something like this is tragic. So many people just jumping on sides blindly and attaching assumptions and biases to your viewpoint to justify your allegiances is so awful. We all just need to put down our pitchforks, watch the damn show, and let everyone else live with how they feel. If people love it, let them love it. If people hate it, let them hate it. Governing opinions is a very, very silly thing to do.
i also made the mistake of being a little bit toxic with my opinions about the episodes. But i think is most like that first momento of anger and rage when someone breaks something that you liked and loved, but later when u calm down u think "well, this person made a mistake, he is human" and all that stuff. but at least me, i still very angry with this era but at least my head isn't like those wojack memes when i'm being the ugly crying man, haha
@@akodaah13-e32 The great thing about DW is that everything is temporary, it can't really be ruined or broken! Even if it's awful at a particular point, it will change again. (I do understand frustration at timeless child stuff because that's hard to get rid of now, I'm choosing to just kind of ignore it)
I appreciate this whole conversation (note, I'm not at the point of where you talk about the Whittaker era yet, so I haven't seen your personal opinion yet, but this conversation is kinda giving me an idea of that). As a big deffender of the show and Jodie Whittaker, I first and foremost want to add that I can see flaws, but also beauty in her run as I have seen during all the previous runs, classic or new, and unlike what some people believe, I'm totally open to people who don't like this run as long as they can accept that I like it. And no, I don't find it perfect. Survivors of the Flux for example, had a moment where the Daleks agree to a truce with the Sontarans and I felt that was out of character for them. But most people would claim that this one bit ruins the entire episode or even an entire run, which is untrue, just as much as a few 'inappropriate comments' from the First Doctor ruin Twice Upon a Time. They don't. I don't judge episodes by bad moments, I look beyond the bad and look at the good. For example, Demons of the Punjab is maybe not the most memorable story, but the overseas filming leads to some beautiful backgrounds that add color to the episode. Same with how Kerblam uses digital technology to create an amazing working company. And I also appreciate Chibnall's affection for Classic Who. Hearing the Master mention the Tissue Compression Eliminator or seeing Classic era UNIT again, including the sign, (and hearing Nicholas Courtney's voice) in Survivors of the Flux are some of those moments that can easily please me. And that's my message to anyone. Don't be afraid to like something that others don't. It's your opinion and no one needs to change it. You don't need to have the same reasons as others. You have your reasons, I have mine. Enjoy what you like about the show and, as you say in the beginning, if you don't like, wait a couple of years until another Doctor comes along and see if that is more to your liking. And if it isn't, don't go around on the internet spreading negativity. It's fun for no one. Well, this went on longer as I thought, but I hope I got my point across. And remember, you don't need to agree with anything I said, but I have the right to say it.
No one has better described what Doctor Who is to me. This is not just mere children's entertainment; this show MEANS something. It has changed my life and even saved it at a very dark point. Heaven Sent is perhaps the most effective piece of media I have ever seen and reveals the emotional depth that modern Who has been building up since it's reboot in 2005. Capaldi will always be my Doctor and despite the change in quality it will always be my favorite show until the day I die. Thank you
Peter Capaldi was mediocre at best until he delivered his anti-war speech. Even after that, I half expected him to tell Clara Oswald that he intended for her to die. His eyes were wet but the rest of his face had me on edge, so I half expected him to reveal a machiavellian betrayal that would horrify even Sylvester McCoy. Hell, I believed that DAVROS was more sincere than Peter Capaldi because I actually fell for his manipulations. With Peter Capaldi, I kept expecting the Valeyard to reveal himself. If the Valeyard was deliberately part of the story, I wouldn't be so harsh because it would explain why the Doctor often felt like a villain. It was the perfect time for the Valeyard to manifest since this was the start of a new regeneration cycle and the Master confirmed that the Valeyard showed up "somewhere between your 12th and final incarnation." Thanks to John Hurt, Matt Smith was the 12th Doctor so not using the Valeyard was massive missed opportunity. Since Michael Jayston wasn't around to prove that the Doctor's sociopathy was intentional, the only conclusion is that Peter Capaldi is incompetent. Peter Capaldi was born to play assholes or outright villains. His "You let me down!" speech was infuriating, despite happening straight after one of Doctor Who's greatest scenes. That's just one example of how Peter Capaldi could take a great premise and ruin it by playing the Doctor like a manipulative, sociopathic piece of shit. His entitlement, hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness made me feel like he was the Valeyard despite the fact that the episode was supposed to show that Clara Oswald was the one in the wrong. The Valeyard treated Clara like crap for an entire season, even outright betraying her trust in Deep Breath and Kill The Moon, and now has the audacity to complain when she snaps after her boyfriend dies? "You betrayed my trust, you betrayed our friendship" might be the most disgustingly hypocritical statement I've ever heard in Doctor Who, apart from when Michael Jayston's Valeyard was gaslighting Colin Baker about abandoning Peri. Not only did Peter Capaldi's unintentional Valeyard plan for a betrayal - which not only means that he's forgotten that Clara was saving his ungrateful ass for CENTURIES but also means there's absolutely NO chance he would trust the far less reliable River Song with his true name - but he also intentionally prolonging Clara's pain just to "see how far you would go". John Hurt would have played that scene without any of the self-righteous gaslighting because all he needed to do was show the quiet disappointment of a man who was blaming himself as much as Clara. Heaven Sent was great as a standalone episode but Peter Capaldi had already fucked up the Doctor so badly by that point that I didn't give a shit about what he was going through. To paraphrase James Tiberius Kirk (the real one, not Chris Pine) "LET him die!" because I just wanted Clara to come back. She became the heart of the show and saved Seasons 8 and 9, with a little help from Missy, because Peter Capaldi was miscast. He should have been the War Doctor, the one incarnation who could actually get away with coming across as the Valeyard, and let John Hurt handle Seasons 8 and 9. I would kill to see John Hurt and Clara Oswald get 2 full seasons together. Hurt was able to stand with Matt Smith and David Tennant and cement himself as legitimate Doctor material within a single episode while Capaldi failed for his entire first season and half of his second. The thing that pisses me off the most is that, on paper, Peter Capaldi had the best run since Christopher Ecclestone. David Tennant and Matt Smith delivered better performances but their stories weren't as strong. John Hurt was the best actor who's ever played the Doctor but he should have been doing Seasons 8 and 9 instead of only having 1 full episode. Peter Capaldi was given an era that, if John Hurt was doing it, would have been one of Doctor Who's best, maybe even THE best. Because of Peter Capaldi's fuck ups, Christopher Ecclestone's era is probably the best. Not only is he a far better actor who can play a darker Doctor without coming across as the Valeyard, but he had great writing and character development to back him up and didn't outstay his welcome.
I too am old enough to have seen the first episode of Doctor Who in 1963 and I'm thrilled that it has impacted the youth of today in the same way it did me all those decades ago. Long may it last 😃
Mate, my love of Doctor Who has been strained over the last couple years, thank you so much for reminding me of all the things I loved in Who. You actually brought me to tears several times during the video, and I rarely get emotional. I will definitely share this with everyone I know, and I will also make it my lifes work to have both Russell T and Steven Moffat watch this. I believe you could bring both those men to tears also. Seriously proud of you, would be honored to call you a friend. Again, thank you.
Oh man you hit me with all the music snippets. Chills, tears, joy and laughter. I saw the original Video and your remaster was just perfect. Thank you for your great and fine work. I also love that you don't just hate on things (except Jodie/Chibnall) and find points why parts of doctor who that you don't like, that are still perfect for doctor who as complete thing with all it's facettes. I cannot agree with your point about the romance. Rose and 10 had something special. It is the love found in something where no love could be previous imagined and maybe all points considered should not exist for the well being for all parties envolved BUT it is there. It is not the part that is played by billie piper but in the doctor. His Pain in love that should not be is what we see in the final moments with the meta crisis doctor and rose. The final node in the story. 10 gives rose the love he could never have with her with the meta crisis doctor and you can see the pain in his face. But your point is still valid and i just wanted to give u another view on it in my rusty english. None the less THANK YOU
Yeah, it's just. I'm not a fan of it. I don't find it moving. That's just me. I can see how people like the romance. It's clear that their story touched so many with how much of an impact their relationship continues to leave on the Doctor Who fandom. I was just never one of them. I didn't like it when I was 10, I didn't like it when I was 15, I REALLY didn't like it when I was 17, but now I can see the worth. I never really found the sadness sad when the Doctor lost Rose. It's just such a weird relationship for me. I distain it. But of course, the worth is there, and it certainly doesn't invalidate yours and thousands of other people's view on the relationship. I just never shared that sentiment. But thanks for watching regardless! I love talking about stuff like this, its so interesting to see the alternate viewpoints. The feelings of romantic heartache in Doctor Who is something I've never had the privilege to experience, so its great to hear your side of things. And, of course, thanks for watching! I'm so glad you loved it.
and that scene where the doctor and wilf talk in that spaceship is just pure and ABSOLUTE *GOLD*, specially when wilf asks about what would happen if the master dies (with the doctor answering that everyone would go back to normal) and he says "don't you dare, sir, don't you DARE put him before them" or that bit when the doctor says that he would be proud if wilf was his dad man, i CRIED in that episode, A LOT and (not being edgy) that usually doesn't happen often. Wilf besto character btw, i always play this essay when i have some heavy homework and big proyects
Personally I think that Martha is totally under looked she is an independent strong and morally set in her ways companion and she is one of the only companions who survives and does well but this was a blast to watch from beginning to end! Keep up the good work
What do you mean one of the only companions who end up doing well. Rose is fine in the parallel universe with metacrisis Doctor, Donna is alive and married had kids. Sarah Jane lived a full life defending the earth with her family. Clara is functionally immortal until she decides to face the raven again. Bill is part of that alien shape shifting liquid ship now with that girl she was trying to get with. Very few of his companions actually had bad endings. Adric being the main one.
I only recently realised why they used Shepard’s boy for Peter capaldi’s regeneration. It’s because the way he feels about regenerating is similar to how he felt in heaven sent. It’s like when he says “why can’t I just lose!”, he just wants to rest and lose. Then when he decides he’ll regenerate it’s like when he decides to smash down that wall. Every punch is every regeneration slowly tearing down that wall so that he can win
For all of the naysayers who have dismissed the recent season of DW, watching this extraordinary overview of The Doctor through the good and bad times is ample evidence of why the character has survived for six decades. I saw the first episode of DW on Saturday, November 23rd, 1963, the day after JFK's terrible murder. It was seen as exotic and quirky at the time. Jon Pertwee was always my personal favorite, and I could take it or leave it as time progressed. Even so, this erudite documentary is a splendid reminder of why DW has remained so iconic. It has outlasted almost everything and everybody, despite poor budgets and scripts. (UK SF programmes have always been badly served by SFX, look at "Blake's 7" for example.) It will be sixty years old in 2023, and still continuing to entertain and bemuse viewers. Well done Brub 52.
whenever i see the doctor being emotional, i always forget that it's an actor, it seems so real and genuine, you just lose that thought of, man this is a great show and you just fall into it
Damn I really needed this after the past few years of Doctor Who. To be reminded how amazing and beautiful doctor who is, why I fell in love with it in the first place. Your collection of perfect cinematographic scenes with Murray Golds emotional music made me feel all sorts of feelings!
Wow, what a well made video! I've spent three days watching this and it's beautifully edited and written. Massive props to your video essay, it's great! Although I personally enjoy the current era of the show, I also completely respect your opinion and understand the shortcomings of the Chibnall era. You perfectly express your thoughts in a really consistent way, and the pacing of the video is fantastic too. This is an amazing video and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it! Doctor Who has also formed a huge part of my life, as it has in yours, and in many others, and it makes me really happy to see you express it in this way. Amazing job, congratulations! It deserves a lot more recognition.
Awww man you’re too kind. Making that Chibnall chapter was really scary for me. I’ve talked about it before but hating Doctor Who isn’t fun for me. So to write a chapter that’s mostly 40 minutes of that was difficult, especially when it comes to seeing the bright side of things. I’m glad you like it, though! And especially happy you like Chibnall’s run. Super duper jealous. And of course, thanks for watching again. The support means everything
What I appreciate about that bit is the fact that it is a realistic opinion in regards to that era, pointing out that everything bad (his opinion) might have something positive, because that's what I did with the Chibnall era. I looked for what I enjoyed instead of looking for things to hate.
One thing that really made Doctor Who special to me was Murray Gold's soundtrack. His music in seasons 1-4, especially the more sad/beautiful ones, are absolutely incredible. Brings so much nostalgia when I hear them.
Hey man, I’m sorry about your friend and that loss. I’m currently going through a similar experience and it’s such a light in the darkness to hear someone else who’s been through this has been able to survive, and even thrive. So I thank you for sharing that.
This video is freaking impeccable, and its just a love letter to the absolute best aspects of doctor who and what the doctor would like us to do, see the absolute best in everything and just be kind, and thats what i feel is even better about this remaster. It is kind to the show, to the people in it, who produce it and even the chibnall era, its just honest and kind and thats what we should all be more like to everyone and everything. So thank you for this beautiful video for a show i hold in all my heart always.
Glad you loved it. Approaching everything this time around, I wanted to see the bright side of things. Even with something that's a titanic failure like the Chibnall Era, I still tried my best to talk about the good things (It Takes you Away, Villa Diodati, the performances, and the music) I'm glad it all came together in the end and I'm happy that everyone seems to enjoy it for the most part. I think I've finally made a Doctor Who video essay that I can be proud of. Thank you watching, again!
This essay is truly magnificent (all three hours of it)! Thank you for producing this. I found this essay exceptionally special because your viewpoints mirror that of mine almost to a T. My differences are minor at best and are assuredly a matter of opinion, such as my preference of the Moffat era over the first RTD era (but both are equally iconic in my eye). I also think I might have a more favorable view of Flux overall when compared to you, but I definitely share in your criticisms and place the series in the same slot on your ranking. This show is truly the best, and every time I revisit my favorite episodes or soundtracks (still waiting for series 10), I’m instantly flooded with emotion and respect for the creators who have worked so hard (and with little time, budget, and appreciation) to bring it to life for 58 years!
DUDE, I KNOW! Where the hell is the Series 10 Soundtrack???? Murray sure is taking his time with it, jeez. Thanks for commenting, man. I do find the sincerity in opinions to be a great quality of my type of essays. It does run the risk of alienating some people that think opinions are facts, but in the end the essay just becomes that much more personal. I can absolutely see the Flux distain and the Moffat love (I do love them both pretty much equally as do you) it's all just so much of what Doctor Who is and what it means. It truly is a show that everyone NEEDS to experience.
My dad was born the same year as Doctor Who. His earliest memory of his life is the end of Evil of the Daleks in 1967. I was born the same year as Doctor Who’s 40th Anniversary. Because my dad watched Doctor Who as a kid, he made me & my sister watch it. I was only 2. One of the best decisions in his life 💙
Fantastic video. Really got to the heart of the show and why it's more than the sum of its parts. Also thought your point about the Chibnall era demonstrating what we had for 10 series and helping us to appreciate them more was really good - makes me feel less bad about the state of the show currently.
People who complain that Jodie’s era was too political should watch classic Who,especially the Pertwee era (3rd Doctor) it pulled no punches about the government of the day (Ted Heath,Conservative’s 1970-74) I’m 22 and love both Nu-Who and classic Who.
This is one of the best showcase video essays on this topic. I can see what you meant by trying to improve on the former essay because it SHOWS. Your analysis has given me a completely new and comprehensive love for this show that I didn’t realize I had before. Thank you for your time and commitment to this great project and I wish you well in all your future endeavors. Happy Holidays man🙏❤️
Happy Holidays, my friend! I see a lot of people (specifically, our lovely Reddit users) saying that Doctor Who absolutely isn't the best show ever made because of the volume of muck episodes, but this video set out to show that the SPIRIT of Doctor Who is it's perfection. Doctor Who's sheer scope and deep crevasses exploring everything that makes humans humans and what makes life important make it the best. Not the quality of the show itself, (although I attest that it's genuinely superb) not the people behind it, (although I attest to loving all of them) but in what I can take away from it and how it influences my life. It's such an important show and it's SO deep that no other show on the PLANET has a chance at rivaling its importance. It's just that awesome. Even if you're pessimistic when it comes to the bad episodes, it doesn't matter. The Doctor and his adventures are simply that fucking important. Thanks for commenting, man. Happy to see that the video blew the first one out of the water, and again, Happy Holidays! Wishing you a fantastic day.
As a gifted, but deeply alienated kid, angry and misunderstood...the options I had for role models were terrible. They were all selfish jerks who justified their cruelty with their intelligence. At the very best, they were deeply aloof and removed from other people. Doctor Who saved my soul. I learned how to love other people through admiring the Doctor as a young man. The Doctor taught me how to accept that I'd always be strange and different from most of the people I meet, but I can still love them and care about them, be a beneficial part of their world. I doubt very much I would've even made it through to adulthood without the Doctor being there to show me how to be a better person, even when you're in immense pain. It still makes me smile a little bit when new friends tell me that I remind them of the Doctor. Well, sure. In a very real way, he raised me. Could've been much worse.
I'm just saying, knowing that Ten was only the Doctor for 6 years of their life when almost every other incarnation (especially in the modern era) was the doctor for centuries if not millennia changes your whole perspective on the end of time twist and Tennants final minutes as the doctor. He wasn't vain. He was human and alive.
I definitely shut Doctor Who off from my life after watching Chibnall's first episode. It wasn't for me, in fact it wasn't for anybody. But this video really made me realize how absolutely amazing this show was. I'm glad we share the same love for Capaldi, he will always be my favorite. This video really rejuvenated my love for the show and it makes me very hopeful for what RTD and Ncuti Gatwa can do for the show. Thank you for this, your work is very well appreciated!
I wasn’t sure what I was coming into when I got recommended this, but I’d liked Jay Exci’s so I figured it would work. I knew it would be good when the first Chibnall dunk came up, I knew it would be great when you said, like me, that Twelve is your favorite, and I knew it was a masterpiece when you explain why you like what you like but plainly see where others might differ.
I think the show lets us see that one can fall in love even if the person doesn't want to. I am not a teen and I know plenty of people that are not teens that like the romance in the Doctor. Romance stories are liked by people of ALL ages, too bad you aren't one of them.
Great essay! One thing though, in Chapter 9.9 when you talk about the scene of the Doctor getting their memory erased, the man that you see isn't literally the Doctor. They say somewhere in the Timeless Child finale that her memories were altered enough so that they could remain in the Matrix to be uncovered. So the scene isn't LITERALLY on Earth, it would be Gallifrey, but the decision to show us a human's potential life is incredibly strange.
Oh yeah! That one throwaway line, I remember. What a really important part of the lore that is justified in one sentence that requires a lot of leaps to begin with. That does explain a lot, though. Thanks. God, I hate that whole thing so much.
I have never seen a video where someone has so perfectly put my love for this show into words. Thank you so much for all the work you put into this video. The editing, the script of your essay and all the other elements were so well written and portrayed. And I am also grateful to watch a video that talks about the Chinball era that doesn’t make me want to cry in frustration. I do not like any of what Chinball has written but the way it has been portrayed in other videos and articles I’ve looked at portrays Dr Who as ruined beyond repair. That really has hurt me a lot as this is also my favorite show of all time and helped me through some of the hardest times of my life. The way you portrayed your criticisms of series 12 and 13 was valid and reasonable but not presented in a way that made me feel like the show is ruined beyond repair. I just want to say THANK YOU so much for the video. 🥺❤️
Putting Rose last is so egregious.. especially when you put Clara third. You cannot at all blame a companion for falling in love with the Doctor when he shows you the literal universe after you've been stuck working in a shop and living with your mother. She is so well characterised, had great dynamic with Eccleston and Tennant, grows and learns so much concerning her family, and in her own right becomes strong and capable in efforts to protect Earth. Also putting Martha second last when she solo travelled the globe, learning languages and evading death to spread the doctor's story and form a psychic link among all human life that saves the world?? Whilst her whole family is enslaved and traumatised?? tf man. Clara is my least favourite - she's so horny for the doctor but not even in a fun way, has a 1 dimensional personality and such a pervasive story arc that annoyingly forces her into pre-existing lore. And acting all mad when the doctor isn’t some young fuckable little twink anymore, then angrily denying that she’s mad about it ?!? nahh. She overstays her welcome on the show and it's not justified, imo. ...Donna #1
@@graaaaaaaaaaaaaaace hot take but Amy has so much more charisma than Clara I still like her more !! and over the course of their storyline, the immature, flirty girl becomes a woman who can appreciate Rory for his own character and qualities (growth!). Having the best moral compass doesn't make you the best character in a story
@@l00r0lll That's fair 😭 I just really hated that arc for her character because it's one of the two singular types of girls Moffat ever writes. All of the main female characters he wrote except maybe Bill fall into some pretty bad misogynistic stereotypes and writing in general.
The temple of Atrapos has existed existed long before Jodie Whittaker’s series. It’s actually a key event in gallifreyan lore, it’s to do with how the time lords managed and controlled time, it’s referenced in certain books, but you can find it explained in certain videos on gallifreyan lore.
I freaking loved modern Doctor Who, until Chibnall era, and I quickly stopped watching it after series 12 began. Jodie does seem great tho. She truly seemed great, its the writing that sucks. I remember Moffat talking about how Classic Who must have died from bad writing, and its risky rn. I'm very glad RTD is back!
The Long Song Montage of amazing cinematography hit me like a truck, it was beautiful and emotional and the shots were stellar, I think you could release it in isolation without the captions/rankings tbh, thank you for that :)
I got a little teary watching this at several points. To see such appreciation and attention to detail is truly wonderful. And thank you for emphasizing how important it is to find the good in everything and form your own opinions. Also - I struggled with 12’s era despite loving Peter Capaldi and your video has motivated me to rewatch all of his seasons with a fresh mindset.🤍
Happy to hear my outlook has convinced you to give him a second chance. I swear its worth it. Even in the weak episodes, Capaldi and Clara have some fantastic moments. Thank you so much for watching! I'm so happy it moved you at points.
I first watched Doctor Who at primary school. I had a hate for the show, never watched it prior but continued to hate it for no reason. My teacher asked us all in the class wether we wanted to watch Doctor Who (to be specific Season 1: Rose) or Tintin. I was begging to watch Tintin instead of DW, but everyone voted against me. So we watched DW and I was captivated. My classmates truly changed my life as a 8 year old by voting against me. I’m now addicted to Doctor Who, proud and has been for over 7-8 years of my life. I have also watched the show, estimated, over 300 times. Never skipped an episode: okay, maybe one or two as I didn’t like them. Doctor Who is different. It’s comedic, educational, entertaining, action packed, adventurous, science fiction, and tells a moral story every Saturday or Sunday. There isn’t any other show like it, and that’s the premise I think. Doctor Who is everything, and can still be different.
Holy crap this was the most beautiful and engaging video essay I've ever watched. I nearly cried at the your favourite cinematography and have always loved the music of Doctor Who, I would listen to the music when feeling down or playing chill out games. E.g. Face of Boe theme, Rings of Ahkaten and This is Gallifrey. Thanks to Doctor Who is changed my childhood forever and thanks to your video you've further showed my why it's so much better then I thought before. Because of the Chinball era (the dark times) I'm starting to watch the classic Who for the first time and I'm really enjoying it (nearly finished season 2). Thank u for making this video and hope to see more in the future.
Awesome! So great to hear you took the Classic plunge! It's a scary thing because its a lot different but it is just as good and clearly made by people who care. Don't give up on it! And it's especially great to hear that you loved the video. I put soo much of myself into it, and the positive reception is incredible. Thank you so much!
Doctor Who harbors so many good memories for me. It was the show that first brought my best friend and I together, a show that got me more interested in storytelling, a show that formed my philosophy and my views on the world. I absolutely have to agree with you, Doctor Who is, without a doubt, the greatest show of all time, and I'm so happy to find other people who feel the same way.
So happy you feel as strongly as I do about it. It's a show that just cannot be wasted. It has so much wonder, and purpose, and emotion. I hope Russell will manage to capture that again.
This is... absolutely beautiful. I have had an obsession with doctor who ever since my older brother introduced me to it and I started really watching it at the beginning of the pandemic and I haven't stopped ever since. You captured everything I think about the show in this video and I love you for it😭 thank you so much for making this dude it almost brought me to tears😭💜 doctor who has been there for me through depression and bad relationships and is really my comfort show and it just means so much to me. It's amazing to find people that also feel as passionate about the show as I do. :)
This video appeared in my recommended this afternoon, and I clicked on it immediately because I share the sentiment of the title unbelievably. I started watching series 3 when I was 5 and Doctor Who has been one of the most important things in my life for the last 15 years. Thank you for such a beautiful video; thank you for being so open and heartfelt. This was without a doubt the best Xmas present I got this year (up there with a collection of signatures from all the actors to play the Doctor, hehee), Heck this is my favourite video essay of all time.
I love all of dr who, the chibnall era included. It will always have a place in my heart. It made me into the weirdo I am today. I....honestly don't know how to fully put it into words.
Holy crap dude, that was probably one of the most well structured videos I've ever seen, not only on Doctor Who but in general, thank you so much for making this video, you laid out the basics and explained the complex perfectly, I'm going to have to watch this a few times just to take everything in and learn all of it, you know what Doctor Who should be and when it succeeds in being its best, all I can say is well done so, Well Done.
While I didn't agree with some of your opinions, this is a masterpiece of a video and I think that just makes me love it more. DW is a great show because of its ability to be loved and interpreted in many different ways, by all different kinds of people. I'm just in love with this entire video and how it really encapsulates the passion I, and many others, feel about this show while also explaining in such a way that new fans or people who haven't really seen it can grasp the love the fandom has. Thank you for all your hard work in making such a great video essay.
This video was very special to me, I have been with this show since I can remember back in Rose of series 1, Doctor Who has been the most important piece of media in my life, and forever will be in my heart, this video perfectly showcases what Doctor Who means to me, you and so many others. Thank you :)
I’d recommend getting into the classic series if you haven’t yet, it’s a bit slower but worth it. I love how the character of the doctor changes through his life, like how 1 was a borderline sociopathic antihero that needed to learn compassion. I could gush on just the first doctor alone for many more hours than this video, feel like his doctor is super underrated but to put it shortly. 1st doctor was a major jerk to all alien life at first because he was raised that the time lords were superior in almost every way, especially intellect, but throughout his travels, with Ian and Barbra he grew to understand what they had was compassion something he was very much lacking and he started to appreciate humanity for teaching him the lesson that all life is precious. which is why throughout his life he works so hard to save the earth. It also explains the dynamic between the master and the doctor as the Doctor was Just as cold as the master towards other life forms as he saw them beneath him, which is why the doctor tries so hard to show him the right path as the doctor could've ended up exactly like the master had the right die of fate been tossed. his character went from a cranky old man with a superiority complex to someone who values the friendships he's made on the way. Just to highlight how significant of an arc this doctor had on other doctors in the second or third episode ever the doctor tried to KILL a caveman because he was afraid that seems weird to think of any doctor doing tbh but it’s important to understand his character. Towards the end of his run, he has learned to completely appreciate and love humanity. 10th doctor said once loosely paraphrased “When you're a kid you always have to act all stern and mature to try to be ‘adult’ but slowly over time you learn that you don’t have to act grumpy to be an adult you can be a bit childish” throughout the first doctor’s life you see him slowly shed his stern demeanor for a more jolly Santa clause Esque demeanor. IMO he has one of the cleanest and best arcs of any doctor, and this arc defines the rest of the doctor’s arcs. I know I don’t have to tell you but for anyone else reading this. The doctor’s personality can change from calm to wild and manic but his core moral philosophy stays the same throughout regenerations unless it’s fundamentally challenged by argumentation or circumstance, which is why you're never going to have one doctor randomly say I think murder is good always. So the first doctor’s arc IMO is still the fundamental building block of the doctor’s moral ethics and code. All this to say I’d recommend watching the classic Who the 10th Doctor is my favorite Doctor, and I love how it got me into classic, but I’d highly recommend classic as not only does it give depth to the character genuinely has great episodes.
Thanks. I didn’t know all that about the 1st Doctor, but it makes complete sense that he starts like a genius sociopath and he was raised that way but through the show he comes to appreciate the value of life and compassion. I’ve never watched any classic who, so, thanx for reminding me to give it a try!
@@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 Hexogram :D said he was a ‘borderline sociopathic antihero that needed to learn compassion.’ That’s a cool arc if he then goes and becomes the Doctor
@@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 yeah the term “a genius sociopath” perfectly describes the early first doctor I’d say it was around “edge of destruction” when we see him start to slowly manifest into a better person. Not full throttle mind you, but he shows respect and care for Ian and Barbara towards the end of that serial, and genuine remorse. Although despite being more compassionate, and even more open minded now he still has grumpy stern old man attitude. It isn’t until the dalek invasion of earth where we seen him finally shed that grumpy old man exterior and be a bit more jolly and happy, because of Susan’s (his granddaughter) departure. He wanted to be a bit more jolly because it reminded him of Susan, and it was his way of honoring her to try to become better than being a curmudgeonly old man. Again non of this is full throttle you still see a bit of sternness but this is the start decline of the grumpy first doctor and the start of the jolly first doctor.
If you'd like some more Capaldi, I can't recommend The Thick of It enough. It's a completely different but no less nuanced and skilful performance from one of the best living actors.
I love Doctor Who. So, when it came time to do a monolog for drama club, I knew I had to do a Doctor Who Speech. It was between Where I Fall or The Regeneration Speech by Peter Capaldi and The Regeneration Speech by Matt Smith. I decided to just try the Where I Fall Speech because I wanted to, and there were no other actors needed for it. My drama instructor immediately told me I had to do that speech for the Night of Scenes. So, I'd like to thank Doctor Who for that moment. Thank you, Peter Capaldi, for the amazing performance so that even if mine was a pale imitation, it still was decent.
Oh my GOD. This absolutely blew me away. I know this phrase gets thrown around a lot, but I feel like I know you through this--not just feel like. I do. I lost my brother to suicide, so I know the pain of that exact specific hell. But even more than that is the beautiful way this is structured and presented and written; it completely blew me away. It was respectful of different opinions, such as with when you talked about the show's romance. I remember supporting the romance when I first saw it, years ago (and I'm asexual so I didnt like it simply becausw they were "hot") but perhaps I would feel differently if I revisited it now. Your section about what it means to you made me cry. And I'm crying now as I dictate this into my phone, and it made me cry as I tried to explain to two other people after I just finished watching it. Your message at the end to us thanking us for our time has never felt so personal and well-earned. This entire video essay had an incredible emotional momentum that made watching it in one sitting easy and compelling. You look at the ups and downs in an objective way and even had a character arc of your own in this by learning from your past video essay. It is humbling and graceful and beautiful. This is one of the best of Anything that I have ever seen--book, movie, anything. Art reflects so much, and you bore your soul here. Your essay quote about art is one of the most incredible things I've EVER heard. I want to give you a giant hug. I want to write you a 12-page handwritten letter. I want to get you lunch. I want to have a very long conversation with you. You are one of the most incredible people I've known and I've never even met you real life. I thought I would be done crying by the time I'd finished writing this, but no. This is one of the most emotional pieces of criticism, of writing, of art, that I have ever seen. It has emotionally struck me like nothing else I've ever experienced-- not even Doctor Who itself. This is a magnum opus of art. You are invitation to talk because there should be no wall was astonishing and wonderful and absolutely magical. I'm definitely going to tell everyone I know about this video (it deserves millions upon millions of views.) This has shook me to my very core, and I will remain so. (If it is showing that I edited the message, it's only because weird black lines appeared and I had to make them go away.)
God, now I'm crying. Allow me to offer my deepest condolences to you. I'm sorry about your brother, truly, and I hope things are better now. I'm sure the memory of him is no longer a sad one, no matter how difficult it was at the time. If not, I'm sure things will be better soon. Man, I feel like I have to match your emotional intensity now, haha. Thank you so much for your kind words. No, thanks doesn't even remotely cover it. To express your side of the story, to further the discussion and allow yourself to be deeply moved by my video is a vulnerability I do not remotely deserve. But I am deeply grateful. "Art lives in the connection between the artist and his fellow man." and this is precisely it. This connection. You and me. This is the reason I made this. You are the reason I made this. I can't thank you ENOUGH for your heart. For this video to touch someone like you so closely and deeply is an invaluable gift. It speaks so much of the immortal vessel of Doctor Who. That you and I as people can reside in this world and be touched by both the show and each other's stories is incredible. My DM's on both Instagram and Discord are always open if you wanna make that long conversation a reality. I can't say it ENOUGH. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I'm so happy you loved it! Wishing you a wonderful day (or night) and an (almost) Happy New Year!
@@Brub52 Oh my gosh, your reply made my night. I've been thinking about it all day. I'd love to talk with you on Discord! I have three days free for the New Year's holiday and live in the central time zone of the U.S. I'm not sure where to find you on Discord, though--I'd LOVE to talk more!
I enjoyed this quite a lot. Really like the way you explained and illustrated your views - I may not always share all of them 120% but I felt myself nodding in agreement so much (goddammit the music is chef's kiss). Irrationally glad that you're not one of those that blame Jodie for... whatever happened there - thank you for that. Also, excuse you, I am 40 and DoctorRose (not just TenRose!) has been one of my OTPs for more than 15 years, so there ;P
I've quite literally grown up with Doctor Who (it came back in 2005) and it means the universe to me. There isn't a single episode I've disliked. I remember 11 being the Doctor I really resonated with, but I like all of them. 10 being the one I like least, and 11 tied with 12 for the one I like most. The Chibnall era is honestly one of my favourites and it makes me so sad to see all the hate for it (I stopped watching right before that section started). I disagree with all the criticisms and 13 is one of my favourite Doctors. I love the show too much to tolerate any hate/criticism towards it. I refuse to watch the unnecessarily long Jay Exci video. 6 hours is just ridiculous. Just say you don't like it, don't stretch it out to almost the length of Everywhere At The End of Time! That just comes off as pretentious! No way in HELL am I EVER watching it! I love the whole show (2005 onwards) and I won't hear a word against it. It's flawless and I spit on the 'not the same without x' comments. Yes, it's the greatest show ever made. No, the Chibnall era was nowhere near as bad as everyone made it out to be. The hate is completely unjustified as far as I'm concerned and I refuse to entertain any negativity towards it. I don't like the look of the specials from what the trailer shows. It feels like complete nostalgia bait.
I’m not saying you can’t like the Chibnall era, but if you don’t understand the criticism with the era and 13 as the doctor then you need to look at some in depth reviews of the era.
@@callumocreary1253 It's not that I don't understand the criticism, it's that I completely disagree with it. Did you even read more than five lines of my comment?
Thank you so much for your effort it’s amazing and so great to see people engaged and enjoying doctor who it’s so inspiring and you’ve absolutely smashed it Well done you’ve got a future in this
Dude I know I’m late but geez this was an excellent video essay, it’s clear you’ve learned a lot and become a great writer and script writer. Thx for the fun 3 hrs!
Really good! We have different favorite writers and ranks, and I suppose I'm a 'teenage girl' (not for decades) so it's especially interesting to hear your impressions, which are quite astute at times. The delight in this show comes through in your voice, which is not something one always finds here. Only thing I'll mention is I think you may underestimate the viewer's ability to understand your points at times, but I'm an over-emphasizer too ;-) Great damn job. Long-format RULES!
Yeah, when you make a video as just unwaveringly broad in terms of genre, I have to be precise. The scariest part of the original video in retrospect is how much I banked on someone's previous knowledge in the show, alienating newbies. I'm happy it ended up catering to both parties and of course, glad to hear you loved it. I hope referring to the Tenrose shippers as "teenage girls" wasn't too rude. I can totally see where the appeal is and I'm happy you spoke up! Thanks so much for watching.
@@Brub52 Rude? Lol - an accurate assessment says THIS old broad; we're suckers for romances, but my favorite pairing is forever Ten and Donna. (btw we have the same 3 favorites, my order is just different.) ~ You should rename this the Christmas Special ~
Okay, having seen the whole thing, time for my real comment: First off, thank you for making this! I love long form content and I think this topic deserves it! There are a lot of videos about the failings of the Chibnall era and discussions of how Doctor Who has gotten worse, but I think this video is unique in spending the majority of it's runtime talking about the strengths of the franchise, the highlights and the great moments. Next, welcome to the Colin Baker defense squad, good to have another member....lmao. I think he's iconic. In regards to the romance aspect, while I was someone who was more neutral on the Ten/Rose arc (although my best friend is a die hard for it) and not into the Eleven/Clara arc (but I also feel like that one was wayyyy more implication than explicit), I do think there's merit in including romance as a concept. I don't think the Doctor always needs to be a romantic lead, and often I prefer the asexual representations, but I get it in terms of theme exploration. However, I am curious what your thoughts are on the Doctor's romantic relationship with River are. I noticed you didn't mention it but did include that clip from the Singing Towers (which I thought was really well done). Is it different for you because she's not exactly the same as humans? Personally, I wish more of that arc had been on the Capaldi side of that regeneration if only because I think Peter had more chemistry with her than Matt, but maybe that's just my bias as a Capaldi stan. That, and I thought Husbands of River Song was quite good. I also liked her intro episode with Tennant. I thought it was funny you mentioned a 'Gridlock' quality level. Gridlock, to me, is a bit underrated. Interesting concept, weird episode for 80% of the run time, but it does give us "you should have seen it, that old planet" which is an awesome Tennant moment. I definitely agree that DW is missing something without Murray Gold 😭. Overall, this was a great watch! Made my work day nicer!
Yeah, River is different in a lot of ways. Mainly because she's not quite a human, as you called. She's part time-lord, interwoven with the Doctor's life more closely, and is more intelligent and capable than the standard human. Even if I don't love the Doctor/Companion romance, I think River is a perfect example of why it has some merit, and I respect that. I may not find the River/Doctor dynamic the most moving romantic connection in Doctor Who (Amy and Rory 100% are the best) but I DO think its a lot of fun to watch. Maybe hypocritical, but who's keeping score? I also agree that Gridlock is really underrated! I realized that I kinda insulted that episode when comparing it to Villa Diodati in retrospect, but let it not be disregarded, Gridlock is super fun! As is Villa Diodati. So glad to hear you loved it. I live for comments like this (not specifically the positive reception, but the alternate viewpoint as well) I think the clash in perspectives is awesome. So happy it lived up to the hype, and I hope this video continues to have a prosperous future. Thanks again for watching!
This was wonderfully made. Thank you. As a 51yo female i remember being around 10yo, counting down the seconds until my father would come home Saturday night and would sit down, just he and me to watch this unknown show. Every single Saturday night at 11:00 pm. It was our time. He unfortunately died 10 yeas ago. Until his death this was our special hour that lasted all of our lives. The last half hour of this brought tears to m eyes. Both in good and bad ways. As a weird kid that no one knew what I was talking about to an adult whose best and worst memories are tied to this word. The last half an hour of your cast it was wonderful, sad, amazing, and depressing. All the things that this weird sci Fi show is/was/ will always be and as you said life with all the dull bits gone. Thank you again for something so succinctly put and enjoyed. Even through the tears.
I fell off after Matt Smith regenerated. I first found Doctor Who in the lead up to Series 5, after a chance encounter and watch of Waters of Mars. I had researched the show enough to learn that regeneration was a thing and a normal part of the show and even watched a handful of Series 1-4 in the short time before Series 5, just because it drew me in that much and I was too impatient to wait till the release date while having a decent back catalogue 1 click away. All this to say, I knew Matt Smith wouldn't stay forever. I knew he would eventually leave. I knew that it would be unfair to give his successor any shit just for not being "my Doctor", because I saw that exact same thing happening after David Tennant left. But I guess all the foresight in the world can't really prepare you for the day it happens. I loved Matt Smith's final swing at the role, and I was still uncharacteristically sad when it happened. Not wanting to be part of a repeat from when people doubted Matt Smith, I silently dropped from the show, instead of continuing to hate-watch it. I wouldn't come back to the Capaldi era until about last month. And boy... What a ride. My loyalty to Matt Smith as *my* Doctor makes me not want to say the following, but I think you're absolutely right. Peter Capaldi definitively played the role more perfect than all his predecessors. I'm disappointed in myself for not watching while it aired, but it was a huge relief to not have to wait at all for the next episode. I binged the 12 Doctor's era like a drug. I basically have no disagreements with anything in 3 hours. I especially agree with everything about Chibnall. I'm still finishing up the last of the flux. I've tried so hard to like the 13th Doctor, but Chibnall made her such a shallow shadow of her former self. Jodie was robbed of what should've been the role of a lifetime. Anyone who would've played the Doctor, male or female, would have been robbed under Chibnall's run. I still had fun watching, but only if I didn't think about it. Because it just falls apart too fast under any amount of scrutiny. TL;DR Fantastic video. It was great to go back down memory lane. Murray Gold is a living legend. And I'm sorry to hear about your friend. I hope you're at the other side of your Azbantium wall, and your memories with them are joyful again.
Thoroughly enjoyed the whole video. That ending montage was particularly brilliant. I grew up during the Tom Baker era of Dr Who and watched it slowly deteriorate until it's cancellation all those years ago. I feel this new Dr Who has gone from strength to strength... until now. Unfortunately, it feels now as it did then when it was time to put it back on the shelf for awhile until the time comes again to revive it for a new audience with new talent.
Just wanted to cast my opinion on the love stuff in the show. As an aromanic asexual myself, I latched onto the idea of the doctor and hated the idea of him being romantically inclined. That being said, I found that unless I'm actively looking for it or it's explicitly said, I don't notice. I often have a hard time telling when someone likes me and for the love scenes I push that on to the Doctor. I figured that him being a different species and from a different planet would make him even more clueless as to what is considered romantic even if he's being kissed or told that they're in love with him. For Rose, one of the companions the Doctor loved, I take her send off not as the Doctor loving her romantically but platonically, and the human Doctor being a different person from our Doctor. I love taking his love interests as people he likes, people he'll miss, and people that he cares for and wants to travel with for the rest of his life. River. I love River and I'm actually happy that they got married because marriage isn't always romantic. River is a very open person and often uses the pet name sweetie with the Doctor. I like to think that they had a sit down and discussed what they were comfortable with. [A common misconception for asexuals is that they hate sex, which could be true but that usually depends on the person. An example I can give is: think of an inanimate object or an animal. Depending on what you think about and your personal preferences, you may "love" it or you may hate it but you aren't in love with it. (If you are, think of something else) I find that I like cookies (people) and I like eating (having sex) them, but I think that eating (having sex) is a chore and I usually only eat (have sex) them if they're close to going bad(my partner wants to).] This can be said about the relationship between River and the Doctor. There's nothing romantic there but they still kiss and (probably) have sex because they're comfortable enough to do that with each other. This is just my take on the Doctor and if you don't agree with it then that's fine. Honestly, if the Doctor fell in love with every companion if would open up a world full of angst and I'm all for that, but I can't help but shove my preferences at him in order to relate to him more. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. lol
This was three hours well spent! And perfect to watch on the last day of 2021. I agree with you on just about everything, but have a suggestion. We need to stop mourning the “timeless child “ and look forward to how it will evolve in the hands of RTD. So many possibilities!
I think the bulk of this essay is very good, even if i have different opinions in areas - however, i do think that the dismissive way the romance part is discussed as something just "for teenage girls" really rubs me the wrong way. Firstly, because of the general societal dismissial of anything for women and young women especially - as if its lesser or not worth as much genuine thought or consideration. Secondly, as some other comments have pointed out, that i feel they were misrepresented and not properly examined as what those dynamics for both the characters and the arcs of those stories. I dont believe it was intentional, but something to consider moving forward when examining these things. We can investigate and respect and understand things that arent for us or arent our cup of tea - and i think Doctor Who is a great show to challenge our own perspectives and viewpoints because its baked into the series! Look forward for future content still, this was otherwise really well made!
John, I’ve never watched your videos before, but this held my attention more than any other long form Doctor Who video essay I’ve ever watched. Jay’s great, Harbo’s great - but you show your criticism not only with how story telling should be done, but with your heart and your emotion. Like you, I’m a musician, and I adore Murray Gold’s music. I agree that Murray Gold is one of the most integral parts of modern Doctor Who’s storytelling, and it is such a loss to the show and it’s audience to see him gone. Here’s hoping he’ll return with RTD. I respect so much that this isn’t just a critique of Chibnall’s Who, and that it’s more an essay about what makes Doctor Who what it is, and why you and so many of us love it. I’ve never thought that the Waters of Mars could never be done again, and you’re right. I’d not much thought of the cinematography of this show, and how it is, in fact, a piece of art work. Doctor Who means the world to me, and as you say, it’s in my DNA - but you’ve shown me how much more it means to me than I realised. I’m so so sorry for your loss, it’s not something I’ve ever had to go through and I can’t imagine how hard it was for you, so I’m so glad that you found something to fall back on when all hope seems lost. In the words of the eleventh Doctor: “Every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant…” and you definitely added to my pile of good things. I wish you the very best, and thank you.
Don’t tell anybody, but the keyboard is only for decoration. I can play the first bit of Moonlight Sonata and a few Minecraft songs, that’s pretty much all the use it sees. Still, I have a great deal of respect and love for the craft of music and Murray Gold is what I believe to be the best Orchestral Composer of the Modern Day. Continue following your passion, my friend, as music is such a big part of the world of art and I’m sure you have something fantastic to offer, as I feel that same pull for visual arts and cinematography. Thank you so much for you kind words. It’s a great thing to receive such positive reception, and to have my video compel you to see how truly great Doctor Who is and NOT ONLY keep your attention all the way through but also keep you invested and entertained is all I ever wanted. I thank you graciously and hope that wherever life leads you that you stay steadfast to the things that make you happy at all costs. Live life the way the Doctor does, continue to grow and learn and refine to become the best person you can be. And again, thank you so much for watching.
If Jodie Whitaker's Doctor Who was written for children why does the intro theme and the episodes resonate towards a PG-13 audience rather than a G audience? I just think it didn't work for Jodie Whitaker because she wasn't looking for her own character, she adopted one from the long line of her predecessors. Even though it's written from the same character every individual Doctor Who(except for Capaldi because I never was able to get to know his) has his own perception as the Doctor. Jodie Whitaker didn't. There's a possibility she didn't know how to? Idk.
"its not for me, it's for laughs teenager girls" This. This opinion right there is so shallow when looking at rhis subject. And i think, not only referring to the doctor who fanbase, but boys and men in general would have so much to gain if they let go of this kind of ideas. 1. "Eww romance is girl stuff" i really thought we were past this kind of reactions by now. It just sounds so dismissive for so many different reasons. From male fans thinking they are superior/have superior taste because they dont care about the "romance for girls" stuff to assuming only girls are the target of it, specially in RTD era, RTD being a gay man who literally gifted us Jack Harkness and was not afraid of writing the doctor actually showing his feelings. You know, since men are allowed to show their emotions and actually like sensible and romantic storylines. 2. This whole misconception of the doctor being a superior being thus not "doing romance". I think seeing the doctor as a superior being is already missing a bit of the character's point, but anyway, where did yall get it from, that the doctor doesn't do romance? Not only is "The Doctor Dances" not about dancing, but in the classic series he has a literal granddaughter. And why is it that some men keep labeling romance as something below them, as if doing romance somehow makes the doctor lesser? I completely understand and respect anyone who doesn't like love stories as a genre, but to label romance as "cringe stuff for little girls" or thinking a timelord couldn't have a romance because it's below him its so.....? The Nuwho is all about the doctors learning how to heal themselves and they all do it through their relationships, friendships, enemies, themselves and romantic. The doctor falling in love with Rose, Clara and River is not a plot "intended to entertain teenager girls" because teenager girls are also very much interested in the sci-fi and teenager boys can very much like the romantic subplot. The romantic relationships are important plotlines that literally allowed nuwho to exist. Rose helps War Criminal Ninth to feel like the doctor again, Clara helps isolated Eleventh to find his way back to his desire for help. Again, yall are losing so much by keeping this prejudiced mentality
I really liked this video, but I do agree with you here. I've seen a couple of other men on the internet say stuff similar to this and they way they say it feels dismissive. I think the romances do bring a lot to the show and the Doctor's character and its a bit frustrating to see the condescending way that some people talk about these arcs. I doubt the video is meant to be dismissive of women and girls and I totally understand if it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I do wish people, especially men, would be a touch more thoughtful of how they talk about this stuff.
wow. Just the absolute passion and love that went into making this video that truly is a love letter to doctor who, the greatest show about everything. Besides the depressing chibnal segment you just had me gushing along side you about every bit of the show that we love so much. Doctor who has been a part of my life as far back as my memory goes and I could never imagine life without it. You can really tell how much love and passion went into making this video and here's to hopefully a long and brilliant future to the show!
So I just watched this entire video. I am a huge fan of the classic series as well, and even though that isn't the focus of your video, you still managed to capture what the core of the show is. All of it. I do think you are a little hard on the chibnall era but I agree with most all of the points that you made. I do have hope that the next era will blow us all away. Until then I would suggest you watch the 3rd and fourth doctor's runs. They are different but wonderful and there's a reason most people treat it as the golden age of the classic era. I hope you had a merry christmas, and I hope you have a happy new year.
Right there with you, man. I've broken into Classic quite a bit, I think I undersold my knowledge of it in this video. I jump around a lot but I've seen a ton of Tom Baker, Patrick Troughton, and Colin Baker. I've seen smaller bits of Hartnell, Pertwee, Davison, and McCoy. So I know bits of every single classic Doctor and am more at home with others of them. Still, haven't made my way though a whole series of Classic aside from Trial of a Timelord and Season 12. But yeah, I love it. Don't let my exclusion of it make you believe I don't love it. I'm just infinitely more familiar with Modern. Thanks for watching anyways! Good to hear that a Classic diehard loved the essay. I put so much work into it. Sending the Happy New Year wishes back your way, man. Thanks for watching.
Thank you from the deepest of my heart for being one of the few people to mention how bad the modern cinematography fits Doctor Who. You are right in every aspect that it does not fit Who, and I appreciate you have said what I was thinking so well. I also just gotta the bit where you talk about music, and again you have said it very well. Murray Gold is the guy, the sound of Who
55:20 For me, that was a crucial scene. How much Amy has to throw herself at the Doctor for the hints to even begin to land. A necessary step after 10 and Rose etc... I love Matt's epiphany, as he finally understands her meaning, re-establishing 11's asexuality and essentially alien nature. I love the 'banter' between Clara and 12. With his obliviousness to Clara's appearance etc... It's magical to be able to trade observations with a friend and not offend on either part...
Doctror Who and Ultraman are both powerhouses of TV shows Both are 60's sci-fi shows with an alien protagonist and both are still on-going to this very day Both shows even "changes" their protagonist but not the same way as Doctor Who does..but i still find it interesting
I love that part "No one should have that much power" "Tough" "A Time Lord Victorious" "And there's no one to stop you" In my opinion why should there be. The Doctor, whether or not u think he is, is always in his right mind. He deals with Cains all the time when he's always Abel.
Oh, I am SO happy to be viewing this wonderful in depth look at MY favorite TV show (and I'm only half way through) and also a life long obsession. I became a fan of Doctor Who in December 1963!!! the same weekend JFK was assassinated Yup I'm getting on! But my point being, living through the Classic years, to go through the Cancelled years and then to be reintroduced back into this long lost, familiar world in 2005 was nothing short of astounding! It was BACK, fronted by "Queers as Folk" legend, RTD. Whovians, worldwide sighed a sigh of relief. I hear it in your passion Brub, you realise, that, once a Doctor Who fan, always a Doctor Who fan. You fall in love with the character and not the actor/actress playing the part. Just love and appreciate it for what it is, even if some of the odd scripts don't measure up. That's irrelevant. It becomes about a life long relationship with someone who has always been there. I really love this Next generation Appreciation. Thanks, I am so happy, you get it ;) Best wishes from Edinburgh.
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I just realised something. Wilfred is pretty much the only soldier in the show the Doctor doesn't immediately dislike. Wilfred was almost certainly conscripted like most men at the time. The Doctor knows Wilfred never wanted to go to war.
The Doctor doesn't like _unnecessary_ soldiers, ones who fight pointless wars & do it for the money, the power trip, or some misplaced sense of honour and duty. The Doctor is more open to WW1 and WW2 soldiers because most of them were just boys that were forced to take up arms. He shows a huge amount of respect for Tim Latimer in Family of Blood at the end, both as a child before leaving 1913, and then at a Rememberance ceremony in 2007.
He also has obviously had a huge respect and love for the Brigadier, and understands that UNIT are a necessary force for good in the world, supporting their assault against the Sontarans in Sontaran Stratagem/Poison Sky by informing them of the need to use different ammunition to get around the blocking signal that makes copper bullets unusable. He dislikes that Martha has become a soldier but knows that it was his fault and, by the end, trusts that she will be a valuable source of compassion within UNIT. He also connects with Ross, one of the UNIT grunts, and knows that he's just a good man seeking to defend the planet from hostile aliens.
Danny Pink, on the other hand, is someone who fought in a misguided and for-profit illegal war, signing up to go and fight "terrorists" on behalf of an imperialist nation with a goal of plundering the Oil fields in the middle east & installing governments sympathetic to American & British economic goals. Even though he killed an innocent Child and went into teaching, he kept the personality of a soldier, treating the kids in the same way, abusing his position of authority and trying to force this misguided view of blind respect for elders upon them.
The same can be said of 10's disgust towards Jack when he finds out that Jack is running Torchwood, knowing what the original Torchwood had been doing pre-Doomsday. He's never quite comfortable with Jack's approach to defending Cardiff, but by Stolen Earth/Journey's End understands again that they're a necessary evil to fight the more aggressive threats that people like Sarah Jane aren't equipped for.
11 shows some respect for the soldiers in The Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone, even though they fight in the name of Christianity, same for the ones in When a Good Man Goes to War. They're misguided, but he doesn't have a hatred for them like he does for guns & cowards. Same for 12 with Gallifreyan soldiers that lay down their weapons in Hell Bent, & the General.
Wilf may not have taken a life in the war, but he faced the possibility of his death with courage, and took pride in the patriotism and ideals that have been lost in the generations since.
@Whiteytheripper Wilf never served during the Second World War though. He was too young and joined afterwards (whether by volunteering or through National service) serving in Palestine in '47 and most likely other British engagements of the early cold War period...which were mostly in the area of decolonisation and economic/strategic interest not far of from what you described Danny's War as. My point being is I don't think the doctor really cared about why (most of the time) but care more about their personalities as one should in my opinion. While Wilf was an elderly fellow he was optimistic about the future, had a keen eye for space exploration and generally had a good demeanor about him always trying to lighten the mood and care for his loved ones. Danny on the other had was quite different and opposite in some ways being of a more pessimistic character, having guilt over killing an innocent child in combat and being cynical to the possibilities of what could be outside of earth's reach (pretty much the first point) but still had care for his loved ones and understood the importance of respect.
@@nihilus1650 Wilf did end up in Palestine but from what i understand he enlisted in ww2 while underage which wasn't uncommon back then. After that I doubt he had much choice in where he was stationed. Not trying to argue though I'm aware this is a somewhat old comment and I agree with your point generally just saying my piece in case anyone else is scrolling comments like I am.
I had no idea murray gold’s music hadn’t really won any awards, that’s insane to me. He is a genius composer and the music in doctor who is incredible.
As a 60 year old man who has loved the Doctor's adventures all his life, I'd just like to say "Thank you". Very thought-provoking. A fantastic achievement. Believe me when I tell you that you will always be inspired by the Doctor, creatively and morally. You have a great life in front of you if you use that inspiration in a creative way. I did and am now film director myself. So too did RTD, Moffat and even Chibnall. My journey started with the anarchy and impetuousness of Tom Baker's Doctor along with discovering the movie 'Close Encounters of The Third Kind' (which encompasses a lot of the multifaceted themes Doctor Who does) and I have tried to use the moral code, unpredictability, joy and friendliness of the good Doc as my compass throughout my life. I have been happy because of it. I hope it has worked for others. Thanks again for all the work you've put into the video.
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@@Brub52 I was sat in front of it by parents, who hadn't an inkling what it was about, in the early Sixties. I was mesmerised by it - funnily enough, William Hartnell used the same expression about The Doctor! My parents thought they'd made a mistake, switched it off, but I complained so much that they switched it back on again. I've only missed one episode in the, now designated, Classic Era, because of a holiday at a relative's that didn't have a television, and recently one or two - I've not seen the current series yet. I just love the Surrealism of Doctor Who and it's Wellsian/Quatermass Laplacian mix. Everything that has/can/will happen - where do you want to start? Couldn't resist.
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I too am 60 and Dr Who has been part of my life since I first watched in 1965 (Galaxy Four), and would like to endorse your comments, especially a very big 'Thank You' to Brub52 for all your hard work.
I love this outlook. I try to use the Doctor’s morals, fun outlook and optimism in my every day life. I’m 19 so it’s amazing to see the completely undefined age group of Doctor Who viewers! I’m so glad that people at your fine age still enjoy this show, it really shows how much of an impact it can make on a person. I definitely have a different outlook on life as to what I could’ve had if I never watched this show… but as the Doctor rightfully says, “we all change, when you think about it. We’re all different people all through our lives. And that’s ok, that’s good, you gotta keep moving, so long as you remember all the people that you used to be.”
That doesn’t just apply to Time Lords you know.
I think one of the greatest things about this show is its ability to evoke emotion. One minute you may be full of joy and laughter, the next you're inconsolable with tears and sadness. Doctor Who means so much to so many, and I hope it will continue to do so in the years to come. Allons-y!
Beautiful words.
@@triplejazzmusicisall1883 Thank you. Spoke from the heart.
This is so true. I have shed many tears on doctor who. My mom grew up with it and she was born in Afghanistan. She is as old as the show. I’m gen z and enjoy it. She later asked me if she would like the revival show as her favorite doctor is the 4th
You said this better than I can than I could. Tom Baker answered questions from Australian school kids. Did he come up with the monsters, were the monsters scary, others. He says it's melodrama, ... [the monsters are not real and have rubber masks and the emotions are real] .I I always said it was silly fun, low budget, and suddenly profound.
Wow it just struck me with Chibnall's era
Series 11: Chibnall trying his way.
Series 12: Chibnall trying to do Russell T Davies.
Series 13: Chibnall trying to do Steven Moffat.
Not really, making long narratives are kinda his thing. Series 11 was weird because chibnall was not experienced in not making multi part stories. You can see how much he crams into his single part stories. Spy fall is where he realises this. Unfortunately he only makes on more two parter. But flux was a missed opportunity as he picked up some bad habits along the way so the connected story was filled with junk.
Yeah, it would probably be:
Series 11: Chibnall trying to do Russel T Davies (but with less episodes, less good ideas, and no serialization)
Series 12: Chibnall trying to do Steven Moffat (but with no mystery, no subtlety, and a handful of retcons)
Series 13: Chibnall trying to do Doctor Who his way (but with even fewer episodes, no pacing, and way too many characters and ideas)
In tone, characters, monsters, ideas I mean. Series 11 he was trying to do orignal concepts but ended up being as dull as dishwater. Series 12 borrows ideas, plots, tone from Russell, i.e. Master, "for Galifrey", Judoon, the button "BECOME DEATH DOCTOR": master/dalek emperor, fob watch, secret doctor/master, Captain Jack and a villian saying to the Tardis team "you're public enemies numbers 1, 2 and 3" (Spyfall/Last of the Time Lords). Series 13 flux, more Steven Moffat in plots within plots, timey wimey narrative changes, trying to be more self aware, weeping angels this time. That sort of thing really. Whoops I said borrow, I mean out right take.
Here is how I felt when I watched Season 11 for the first time:
(Woman Who Fell To Earth) Okay, that was decent. A little too long, and dull in parts, but okay.
(Ghost Monument) Okay, so we are walking... and we are walking some more... and now we are resting... and now we're walking again...
(Rosa) And now we are watching a high school documentary about Rosa Parks, but there's a racist from the future in there too... huh?
(Arachnids in the UK) And now we are Trump Bashing...
After those first four episodes, I knew Chibnall and I had completely different ideas about what Doctor Who is supposed to be like.
Shame he was just bad at writing a hack
he has never written a good episode of doctor who
a few okish ones thats about it
About the romance. I think it has a deeper purpose that the show can really benefit from. Rose was the first character and primary audience identification figure in the first season of doctor who. You speak of how an audience can fall in love with the character, so it makes sense to me that the audience identification can fall in love with the character as well. A man comes along and shows you all of time and space. He takes you away from your boring life into the magical. That giant sense of wonder the show creates with that premise can definitely convert itself into a romance.
The other side is if the doctor should reciprocate those feelings. If it is baseless, then no. But I think the Doctor-Rose dynamic is strong enough because of the role Rose has taken in the post-war doctor's life. She shows him the good side of life and helps him heal, but is also there to show a certain kindness the character needs to, but currently lacks. This is a topic that keeps getting explored within the 10th doctor's run far past the Rose-Doctor relationship. The way they add to each other makes the romance work for me. They complete each other in the most true sense. And although that can get lost in the cheezyness of the episodes. The core is strong enough to make the relationship meaningful.
The Clara-Doctor dynamic is very different because, honestly, I think it was just there as a lead-up for Capaldi. It is a mostly one-sided love from Clara's side. The doctor does just enough to make it look like a budding romance, but it isn't that strong. Then Capaldi barges onto the scene and we need to deal with moving on from pretty young doctors to an old, grumpy man. I think it was smart to make Clara an audience surrogate figure. Deep Breath spends a lot of time on making the audience/Clara feel comfortable with this shift, which I think was very necessary. The last "old" doctor was in the 80s. It makes sense to transform the budding romance, which was barely starting out, into a friendship. That helps the general audience to connect to this character again.
The problem is that this got lost in the anniversary hype. Clara was there for a lot of important moments, that were mostly 50th anniversary buildup (the timeline stuff, day of the doctor, etc.). She was new, so needed a role there, and got a pretty important one as "the person who guided the doctor through his entire life". This made their bond seem way more important than it realistically was ever meant to be. That's what I speculate at least.
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Yes. In addition, the rose doctor relationship is so relatively healthy. Rose goes from naive to confident, the romance evolves with it. The doctor isn't romantic with naive rose. They both make their views known, and rose is almost aggressive in making what she wants known.
You focus on "old" (Capaldi is roughly my age!!!!), PC understood the character, he, like me, was terrified by the Mondasian Cybermen. To me, he was a great Doctor, but burdened by subpar plots and labyrinthine story arcs.
Any romantic story involving Rose and the Doctor was always creepy. They even have a conversation about a 19 year old girl travelling with a 900 year old man. Until the Paul McGann TV movie, the Doctor was a mysterious, asexual alien exiled from his own planet for reasons unknown. That was the charm, the mystery, the separation between us and the Doctor and his people.
The Doctor stood alone, having friends and travelling companions but other than Susan, no one with whom he had a real, deep relationship. Everyone left him, or was taken away (Zoe and Jamie).
The Doctor of 2022 is a soap character, but with no real character development or personality. Now we are faced with a lesbian relationship between the millennia old Time Lord / Timeless Child (please retcon that, RTD) and another girl barely out of her teens. Emmerdale in Space
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Something to add: the Doctor isn’t asexual and he hasn’t been since his inception, one of the first things we learn about William Hartnell’s Doctor is that he has a granddaughter which would only be possible if he had a lover and a child with them. I’d say that we see the Doctor as asexual because he distances himself from creatures, not that he is asexual *because* he distances himself.
Hearing "Russell T Davies' series 14" brings a smile to my face every time I hear it. :D
It shouldn't. He's gonna double down on all the BS Chibnall put forth.
@@filthycasual8187 I don't think the show will ever be as good as the pre-Chibnall eras, but I'm just hoping Davies can improve upon the show somewhat (it'd be pretty hard to make the show worse at this point). Also, while I don't think he'll retcon anything (unfortunately), I'm optimistic that he's still got what it takes to keep the show entertaining.
@Qwerty Qwistle Yeah, saying it would never be as good as it was before was pretty pessimistic on my end. Long-running shows do tend to worsen in writing quality over time, however, so I see my take as a sort of mix of pessimism and realism. I'm no expert on what makes a show entertaining, so I could be wrong (here's hoping I am). :D
@@domoslomo1 I think that if DW continues for decades to come, there will definetly be more seasons better than pre-chibs. This show has had many ups and downs, season 11-13 are just a small bad era just like seasons 22-24
Same here!
I can't tell you how glad I am that this video was recommended to me, we seem to share a lot of similar opinions on Doctor Who and hearing all of this analysed in such a wonderful way just felt really special. You did an absolutely tremendous job here and I only hope this video is pushed out to more people. Thanks for writing such an in depth love letter to something that means so much to me and so many others.
Kind words from you mean everything, LazerzZ. I'm so glad you loved it!
@@Brub52 I honestly can’t believe I watched a 3 hour video in one sitting but I was absolutely hooked 🙌🏻
@@LazerzZ dude you say that like you didn't make 3 videos totaling nearly 7 hours on the witcher 3 and its DLC🤣 ( Ps. I've watched all 3 twice now, quality videos)
In defense of the romance, seeing Rose and the doctor in love and just having fun and laughing is just pure joy to me. They could do it as friends but as a couple makes it so much better. It's the happiest a television series has ever made me in those moments.
I’m happy it makes you happy.
I agree with you,,,it made me both happy and sad too, (Rose I the doctor,),,this was an exceptional video, loved it,,,,but not just teenagers like a lil romance, brub52 talked of all the beautiful qualities of the doctor, how could you not be attracted to him,
As a single 30yo man, I'd marry Clara instantly. The chemistry between the two characters touches my soul.
I have no problem with The Doctor having romantic feelings for Rose because you can tell that he feels like he needs that level of comfort because of the time war but also understands that it can't happen because he will outlive her, and I think you can see this with the half-human Doctor because he instantly confesses his love for her because he knows they can grow old together. I also never felt romantic love between 11 and Clara and I think he has such an interest in her because she keeps appearing throughout time
It ok for the Dr to fall in love problem with rose is she so full of her self expeshily when she returns and he talking and she like I was here just I'm like wait a moment if anyone can say that in that video call is sara Jane Smith
_"Now d'you see why I don't use guns?"_ is the best line Missy never had and you can NOT change my mind.
Seriously. Rejecting guns to imply she's adopting some of the Doctor's morals, only to use a more deadly alternative instead is perfect Missy writing. Stating that guns are beneath her not because they're unethical, _but because they're inefficient_ may well beat anything we saw in Series 10 in terms of her development.
*The fact that it's the Doctor's line is so wrong.*
Damn, that's a remarkably good point
"Smaller on the outside"
That is such an amazing point, holy shit... this is also the best thing i've ever heard that i can use to illustrate how badly chibnall assassinated Jodie's Doctor's character.
Why is it whenever I find a random Doctor Who video I haven't seen yet you're always here first?
I am once again asking every random person who decides to make a video essay on Doctor Who to read Eruditorum Press and/or the Black Archives before commenting. smh.
"I got worse. I got clever."
I think that Murray Gold’s use of the character themes elevated the show so much that listening to his music made me realize why I fell in love with the characters. His work reminds me a lot of Yoko Shimomura’s Kingdom Hearts character themes and how they just wreck you
I really really like and appreciate your final comments on Chibnall's era. I hate how toxic, negative and cynical a lot of the discourse has become around it, even though I agree that it is bad. It only makes the ordeal worse, it is devastating and heart-breaking enough that Jodie, Mandip, and the rest of the cast were not able to shine, that the amazing opportunities of the first female doctor were squandered. We shouldn't also spread division and conflict by walking all over what others enjoy.
Man, thank you so much. I agree to an uncanny level. The eruption and division of the Doctor Who community over something like this is tragic. So many people just jumping on sides blindly and attaching assumptions and biases to your viewpoint to justify your allegiances is so awful. We all just need to put down our pitchforks, watch the damn show, and let everyone else live with how they feel. If people love it, let them love it. If people hate it, let them hate it. Governing opinions is a very, very silly thing to do.
i also made the mistake of being a little bit toxic with my opinions about the episodes. But i think is most like that first momento of anger and rage when someone breaks something that you liked and loved, but later when u calm down u think "well, this person made a mistake, he is human" and all that stuff. but at least me, i still very angry with this era but at least my head isn't like those wojack memes when i'm being the ugly crying man, haha
@@akodaah13-e32 The great thing about DW is that everything is temporary, it can't really be ruined or broken! Even if it's awful at a particular point, it will change again.
(I do understand frustration at timeless child stuff because that's hard to get rid of now, I'm choosing to just kind of ignore it)
Hear, hear!
I appreciate this whole conversation (note, I'm not at the point of where you talk about the Whittaker era yet, so I haven't seen your personal opinion yet, but this conversation is kinda giving me an idea of that). As a big deffender of the show and Jodie Whittaker, I first and foremost want to add that I can see flaws, but also beauty in her run as I have seen during all the previous runs, classic or new, and unlike what some people believe, I'm totally open to people who don't like this run as long as they can accept that I like it. And no, I don't find it perfect. Survivors of the Flux for example, had a moment where the Daleks agree to a truce with the Sontarans and I felt that was out of character for them. But most people would claim that this one bit ruins the entire episode or even an entire run, which is untrue, just as much as a few 'inappropriate comments' from the First Doctor ruin Twice Upon a Time. They don't. I don't judge episodes by bad moments, I look beyond the bad and look at the good. For example, Demons of the Punjab is maybe not the most memorable story, but the overseas filming leads to some beautiful backgrounds that add color to the episode. Same with how Kerblam uses digital technology to create an amazing working company. And I also appreciate Chibnall's affection for Classic Who. Hearing the Master mention the Tissue Compression Eliminator or seeing Classic era UNIT again, including the sign, (and hearing Nicholas Courtney's voice) in Survivors of the Flux are some of those moments that can easily please me. And that's my message to anyone. Don't be afraid to like something that others don't. It's your opinion and no one needs to change it. You don't need to have the same reasons as others. You have your reasons, I have mine. Enjoy what you like about the show and, as you say in the beginning, if you don't like, wait a couple of years until another Doctor comes along and see if that is more to your liking. And if it isn't, don't go around on the internet spreading negativity. It's fun for no one.
Well, this went on longer as I thought, but I hope I got my point across. And remember, you don't need to agree with anything I said, but I have the right to say it.
No one has better described what Doctor Who is to me. This is not just mere children's entertainment; this show MEANS something. It has changed my life and even saved it at a very dark point. Heaven Sent is perhaps the most effective piece of media I have ever seen and reveals the emotional depth that modern Who has been building up since it's reboot in 2005. Capaldi will always be my Doctor and despite the change in quality it will always be my favorite show until the day I die. Thank you
So very well said.
Peter Capaldi was mediocre at best until he delivered his anti-war speech. Even after that, I half expected him to tell Clara Oswald that he intended for her to die. His eyes were wet but the rest of his face had me on edge, so I half expected him to reveal a machiavellian betrayal that would horrify even Sylvester McCoy. Hell, I believed that DAVROS was more sincere than Peter Capaldi because I actually fell for his manipulations.
With Peter Capaldi, I kept expecting the Valeyard to reveal himself. If the Valeyard was deliberately part of the story, I wouldn't be so harsh because it would explain why the Doctor often felt like a villain. It was the perfect time for the Valeyard to manifest since this was the start of a new regeneration cycle and the Master confirmed that the Valeyard showed up "somewhere between your 12th and final incarnation." Thanks to John Hurt, Matt Smith was the 12th Doctor so not using the Valeyard was massive missed opportunity. Since Michael Jayston wasn't around to prove that the Doctor's sociopathy was intentional, the only conclusion is that Peter Capaldi is incompetent.
Peter Capaldi was born to play assholes or outright villains. His "You let me down!" speech was infuriating, despite happening straight after one of Doctor Who's greatest scenes. That's just one example of how Peter Capaldi could take a great premise and ruin it by playing the Doctor like a manipulative, sociopathic piece of shit. His entitlement, hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness made me feel like he was the Valeyard despite the fact that the episode was supposed to show that Clara Oswald was the one in the wrong. The Valeyard treated Clara like crap for an entire season, even outright betraying her trust in Deep Breath and Kill The Moon, and now has the audacity to complain when she snaps after her boyfriend dies? "You betrayed my trust, you betrayed our friendship" might be the most disgustingly hypocritical statement I've ever heard in Doctor Who, apart from when Michael Jayston's Valeyard was gaslighting Colin Baker about abandoning Peri. Not only did Peter Capaldi's unintentional Valeyard plan for a betrayal - which not only means that he's forgotten that Clara was saving his ungrateful ass for CENTURIES but also means there's absolutely NO chance he would trust the far less reliable River Song with his true name - but he also intentionally prolonging Clara's pain just to "see how far you would go". John Hurt would have played that scene without any of the self-righteous gaslighting because all he needed to do was show the quiet disappointment of a man who was blaming himself as much as Clara.
Heaven Sent was great as a standalone episode but Peter Capaldi had already fucked up the Doctor so badly by that point that I didn't give a shit about what he was going through. To paraphrase James Tiberius Kirk (the real one, not Chris Pine) "LET him die!" because I just wanted Clara to come back. She became the heart of the show and saved Seasons 8 and 9, with a little help from Missy, because Peter Capaldi was miscast. He should have been the War Doctor, the one incarnation who could actually get away with coming across as the Valeyard, and let John Hurt handle Seasons 8 and 9. I would kill to see John Hurt and Clara Oswald get 2 full seasons together. Hurt was able to stand with Matt Smith and David Tennant and cement himself as legitimate Doctor material within a single episode while Capaldi failed for his entire first season and half of his second.
The thing that pisses me off the most is that, on paper, Peter Capaldi had the best run since Christopher Ecclestone. David Tennant and Matt Smith delivered better performances but their stories weren't as strong. John Hurt was the best actor who's ever played the Doctor but he should have been doing Seasons 8 and 9 instead of only having 1 full episode. Peter Capaldi was given an era that, if John Hurt was doing it, would have been one of Doctor Who's best, maybe even THE best. Because of Peter Capaldi's fuck ups, Christopher Ecclestone's era is probably the best. Not only is he a far better actor who can play a darker Doctor without coming across as the Valeyard, but he had great writing and character development to back him up and didn't outstay his welcome.
@@tomnorton4277i disagree
The Entire Sequence from 1:35:17 to 1:38:50 was simply breathtaking. Thank you so much for making this video.
Fr I’ve been coming back to it every once in a while. One of the best things I have ever seen on RUclips. Ever.
Honestly, it made me tear up. I have so much love for this show. Especially for Heaven Sent and Hell Bent.
I too am old enough to have seen the first episode of Doctor Who in 1963 and I'm thrilled that it has impacted the youth of today in the same way it did me all those decades ago. Long may it last 😃
Mate, my love of Doctor Who has been strained over the last couple years, thank you so much for reminding me of all the things I loved in Who.
You actually brought me to tears several times during the video, and I rarely get emotional.
I will definitely share this with everyone I know, and I will also make it my lifes work to have both Russell T and Steven Moffat watch this. I believe you could bring both those men to tears also.
Seriously proud of you, would be honored to call you a friend.
Again, thank you.
Oh man you hit me with all the music snippets.
Chills, tears, joy and laughter.
I saw the original Video and your remaster was just perfect. Thank you for your great and fine work.
I also love that you don't just hate on things (except Jodie/Chibnall) and find points why parts of doctor who that you don't like, that are still perfect for doctor who as complete thing with all it's facettes.
I cannot agree with your point about the romance. Rose and 10 had something special. It is the love found in something where no love could be previous imagined and maybe all points considered should not exist for the well being for all parties envolved BUT it is there.
It is not the part that is played by billie piper but in the doctor. His Pain in love that should not be is what we see in the final moments with the meta crisis doctor and rose. The final node in the story. 10 gives rose the love he could never have with her with the meta crisis doctor and you can see the pain in his face.
But your point is still valid and i just wanted to give u another view on it in my rusty english.
None the less THANK YOU
Yeah, it's just. I'm not a fan of it. I don't find it moving. That's just me. I can see how people like the romance. It's clear that their story touched so many with how much of an impact their relationship continues to leave on the Doctor Who fandom. I was just never one of them. I didn't like it when I was 10, I didn't like it when I was 15, I REALLY didn't like it when I was 17, but now I can see the worth. I never really found the sadness sad when the Doctor lost Rose. It's just such a weird relationship for me. I distain it. But of course, the worth is there, and it certainly doesn't invalidate yours and thousands of other people's view on the relationship. I just never shared that sentiment. But thanks for watching regardless! I love talking about stuff like this, its so interesting to see the alternate viewpoints. The feelings of romantic heartache in Doctor Who is something I've never had the privilege to experience, so its great to hear your side of things. And, of course, thanks for watching! I'm so glad you loved it.
and that scene where the doctor and wilf talk in that spaceship is just pure and ABSOLUTE *GOLD*, specially when wilf asks about what would happen if the master dies (with the doctor answering that everyone would go back to normal) and he says "don't you dare, sir, don't you DARE put him before them"
or that bit when the doctor says that he would be proud if wilf was his dad
man, i CRIED in that episode, A LOT and (not being edgy) that usually doesn't happen often. Wilf besto character
btw, i always play this essay when i have some heavy homework and big proyects
Personally I think that Martha is totally under looked she is an independent strong and morally set in her ways companion and she is one of the only companions who survives and does well but this was a blast to watch from beginning to end! Keep up the good work
What do you mean one of the only companions who end up doing well. Rose is fine in the parallel universe with metacrisis Doctor, Donna is alive and married had kids. Sarah Jane lived a full life defending the earth with her family. Clara is functionally immortal until she decides to face the raven again. Bill is part of that alien shape shifting liquid ship now with that girl she was trying to get with. Very few of his companions actually had bad endings. Adric being the main one.
I absolutly agree with you. It is the greatest story what was ever told! Thank you!
I only recently realised why they used Shepard’s boy for Peter capaldi’s regeneration. It’s because the way he feels about regenerating is similar to how he felt in heaven sent. It’s like when he says “why can’t I just lose!”, he just wants to rest and lose. Then when he decides he’ll regenerate it’s like when he decides to smash down that wall. Every punch is every regeneration slowly tearing down that wall so that he can win
For all of the naysayers who have dismissed the recent season of DW, watching this extraordinary overview of The Doctor through the good and bad times is ample evidence of why
the character has survived for six decades. I saw the first episode of DW on Saturday, November 23rd, 1963, the day after JFK's terrible murder. It was seen as exotic and quirky
at the time. Jon Pertwee was always my personal favorite, and I could take it or leave it as time progressed.
Even so, this erudite documentary is a splendid reminder of why DW has remained so iconic. It has outlasted almost everything and everybody, despite poor budgets and scripts.
(UK SF programmes have always been badly served by SFX, look at "Blake's 7" for example.) It will be sixty years old in 2023, and still continuing to entertain and bemuse viewers.
Well done Brub 52.
whenever i see the doctor being emotional, i always forget that it's an actor, it seems so real and genuine, you just lose that thought of, man this is a great show and you just fall into it
Damn I really needed this after the past few years of Doctor Who. To be reminded how amazing and beautiful doctor who is, why I fell in love with it in the first place. Your collection of perfect cinematographic scenes with Murray Golds emotional music made me feel all sorts of feelings!
Wow, what a well made video! I've spent three days watching this and it's beautifully edited and written. Massive props to your video essay, it's great!
Although I personally enjoy the current era of the show, I also completely respect your opinion and understand the shortcomings of the Chibnall era. You perfectly express your thoughts in a really consistent way, and the pacing of the video is fantastic too. This is an amazing video and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it!
Doctor Who has also formed a huge part of my life, as it has in yours, and in many others, and it makes me really happy to see you express it in this way. Amazing job, congratulations! It deserves a lot more recognition.
Awww man you’re too kind. Making that Chibnall chapter was really scary for me. I’ve talked about it before but hating Doctor Who isn’t fun for me. So to write a chapter that’s mostly 40 minutes of that was difficult, especially when it comes to seeing the bright side of things. I’m glad you like it, though! And especially happy you like Chibnall’s run. Super duper jealous. And of course, thanks for watching again. The support means everything
What I appreciate about that bit is the fact that it is a realistic opinion in regards to that era, pointing out that everything bad (his opinion) might have something positive, because that's what I did with the Chibnall era. I looked for what I enjoyed instead of looking for things to hate.
One thing that really made Doctor Who special to me was Murray Gold's soundtrack. His music in seasons 1-4, especially the more sad/beautiful ones, are absolutely incredible. Brings so much nostalgia when I hear them.
The Song of Captivity/Freedom still brings a tear to my eye, even after all of these years
It was definitely a work of your heart. Nothing better! True art.
Hey man, I’m sorry about your friend and that loss. I’m currently going through a similar experience and it’s such a light in the darkness to hear someone else who’s been through this has been able to survive, and even thrive. So I thank you for sharing that.
This video is freaking impeccable, and its just a love letter to the absolute best aspects of doctor who and what the doctor would like us to do, see the absolute best in everything and just be kind, and thats what i feel is even better about this remaster. It is kind to the show, to the people in it, who produce it and even the chibnall era, its just honest and kind and thats what we should all be more like to everyone and everything. So thank you for this beautiful video for a show i hold in all my heart always.
Glad you loved it. Approaching everything this time around, I wanted to see the bright side of things. Even with something that's a titanic failure like the Chibnall Era, I still tried my best to talk about the good things (It Takes you Away, Villa Diodati, the performances, and the music) I'm glad it all came together in the end and I'm happy that everyone seems to enjoy it for the most part. I think I've finally made a Doctor Who video essay that I can be proud of. Thank you watching, again!
Wilf's Wiggle unironically slaps
lol true
This essay is truly magnificent (all three hours of it)! Thank you for producing this.
I found this essay exceptionally special because your viewpoints mirror that of mine almost to a T. My differences are minor at best and are assuredly a matter of opinion, such as my preference of the Moffat era over the first RTD era (but both are equally iconic in my eye). I also think I might have a more favorable view of Flux overall when compared to you, but I definitely share in your criticisms and place the series in the same slot on your ranking.
This show is truly the best, and every time I revisit my favorite episodes or soundtracks (still waiting for series 10), I’m instantly flooded with emotion and respect for the creators who have worked so hard (and with little time, budget, and appreciation) to bring it to life for 58 years!
DUDE, I KNOW! Where the hell is the Series 10 Soundtrack???? Murray sure is taking his time with it, jeez. Thanks for commenting, man. I do find the sincerity in opinions to be a great quality of my type of essays. It does run the risk of alienating some people that think opinions are facts, but in the end the essay just becomes that much more personal. I can absolutely see the Flux distain and the Moffat love (I do love them both pretty much equally as do you) it's all just so much of what Doctor Who is and what it means. It truly is a show that everyone NEEDS to experience.
My dad was born the same year as Doctor Who. His earliest memory of his life is the end of Evil of the Daleks in 1967. I was born the same year as Doctor Who’s 40th Anniversary. Because my dad watched Doctor Who as a kid, he made me & my sister watch it. I was only 2.
One of the best decisions in his life 💙
Fantastic video. Really got to the heart of the show and why it's more than the sum of its parts. Also thought your point about the Chibnall era demonstrating what we had for 10 series and helping us to appreciate them more was really good - makes me feel less bad about the state of the show currently.
People who complain that Jodie’s era was too political should watch classic Who,especially the Pertwee era (3rd Doctor) it pulled no punches about the government of the day (Ted Heath,Conservative’s 1970-74) I’m 22 and love both Nu-Who and classic Who.
thank you lol, finally someone who said it!
This is one of the best showcase video essays on this topic. I can see what you meant by trying to improve on the former essay because it SHOWS. Your analysis has given me a completely new and comprehensive love for this show that I didn’t realize I had before. Thank you for your time and commitment to this great project and I wish you well in all your future endeavors. Happy Holidays man🙏❤️
Happy Holidays, my friend! I see a lot of people (specifically, our lovely Reddit users) saying that Doctor Who absolutely isn't the best show ever made because of the volume of muck episodes, but this video set out to show that the SPIRIT of Doctor Who is it's perfection. Doctor Who's sheer scope and deep crevasses exploring everything that makes humans humans and what makes life important make it the best. Not the quality of the show itself, (although I attest that it's genuinely superb) not the people behind it, (although I attest to loving all of them) but in what I can take away from it and how it influences my life. It's such an important show and it's SO deep that no other show on the PLANET has a chance at rivaling its importance. It's just that awesome. Even if you're pessimistic when it comes to the bad episodes, it doesn't matter. The Doctor and his adventures are simply that fucking important. Thanks for commenting, man. Happy to see that the video blew the first one out of the water, and again, Happy Holidays! Wishing you a fantastic day.
A masterpiece of editing...
As a gifted, but deeply alienated kid, angry and misunderstood...the options I had for role models were terrible. They were all selfish jerks who justified their cruelty with their intelligence. At the very best, they were deeply aloof and removed from other people. Doctor Who saved my soul. I learned how to love other people through admiring the Doctor as a young man. The Doctor taught me how to accept that I'd always be strange and different from most of the people I meet, but I can still love them and care about them, be a beneficial part of their world. I doubt very much I would've even made it through to adulthood without the Doctor being there to show me how to be a better person, even when you're in immense pain. It still makes me smile a little bit when new friends tell me that I remind them of the Doctor. Well, sure. In a very real way, he raised me. Could've been much worse.
I'm just saying, knowing that Ten was only the Doctor for 6 years of their life when almost every other incarnation (especially in the modern era) was the doctor for centuries if not millennia changes your whole perspective on the end of time twist and Tennants final minutes as the doctor. He wasn't vain. He was human and alive.
I definitely shut Doctor Who off from my life after watching Chibnall's first episode. It wasn't for me, in fact it wasn't for anybody. But this video really made me realize how absolutely amazing this show was. I'm glad we share the same love for Capaldi, he will always be my favorite. This video really rejuvenated my love for the show and it makes me very hopeful for what RTD and Ncuti Gatwa can do for the show. Thank you for this, your work is very well appreciated!
I wasn’t sure what I was coming into when I got recommended this, but I’d liked Jay Exci’s so I figured it would work. I knew it would be good when the first Chibnall dunk came up, I knew it would be great when you said, like me, that Twelve is your favorite, and I knew it was a masterpiece when you explain why you like what you like but plainly see where others might differ.
Thank you so much for the kind words.
I think the show lets us see that one can fall in love even if the person doesn't want to. I am not a teen and I know plenty of people that are not teens that like the romance in the Doctor. Romance stories are liked by people of ALL ages, too bad you aren't one of them.
A 3 hour version of a video I already loved and really resonated with?
Well, here we go again!
Great stuff - thanks for putting this together. And happy to find someone who loves Peter Capaldi, and especially Hell Bent, as much as I do. :)
Great essay! One thing though, in Chapter 9.9 when you talk about the scene of the Doctor getting their memory erased, the man that you see isn't literally the Doctor. They say somewhere in the Timeless Child finale that her memories were altered enough so that they could remain in the Matrix to be uncovered. So the scene isn't LITERALLY on Earth, it would be Gallifrey, but the decision to show us a human's potential life is incredibly strange.
Oh yeah! That one throwaway line, I remember. What a really important part of the lore that is justified in one sentence that requires a lot of leaps to begin with. That does explain a lot, though. Thanks. God, I hate that whole thing so much.
I have never seen a video where someone has so perfectly put my love for this show into words. Thank you so much for all the work you put into this video. The editing, the script of your essay and all the other elements were so well written and portrayed. And I am also grateful to watch a video that talks about the Chinball era that doesn’t make me want to cry in frustration. I do not like any of what Chinball has written but the way it has been portrayed in other videos and articles I’ve looked at portrays Dr Who as ruined beyond repair. That really has hurt me a lot as this is also my favorite show of all time and helped me through some of the hardest times of my life. The way you portrayed your criticisms of series 12 and 13 was valid and reasonable but not presented in a way that made me feel like the show is ruined beyond repair. I just want to say THANK YOU so much for the video. 🥺❤️
Putting Rose last is so egregious.. especially when you put Clara third. You cannot at all blame a companion for falling in love with the Doctor when he shows you the literal universe after you've been stuck working in a shop and living with your mother. She is so well characterised, had great dynamic with Eccleston and Tennant, grows and learns so much concerning her family, and in her own right becomes strong and capable in efforts to protect Earth. Also putting Martha second last when she solo travelled the globe, learning languages and evading death to spread the doctor's story and form a psychic link among all human life that saves the world?? Whilst her whole family is enslaved and traumatised?? tf man.
Clara is my least favourite - she's so horny for the doctor but not even in a fun way, has a 1 dimensional personality and such a pervasive story arc that annoyingly forces her into pre-existing lore. And acting all mad when the doctor isn’t some young fuckable little twink anymore, then angrily denying that she’s mad about it ?!? nahh. She overstays her welcome on the show and it's not justified, imo.
...Donna #1
Oh come on
Clara's still better than Amy and the constant trying to cheat on her husband at least.
@@graaaaaaaaaaaaaaace hot take but Amy has so much more charisma than Clara I still like her more !! and over the course of their storyline, the immature, flirty girl becomes a woman who can appreciate Rory for his own character and qualities (growth!). Having the best moral compass doesn't make you the best character in a story
@@l00r0lll That's fair 😭 I just really hated that arc for her character because it's one of the two singular types of girls Moffat ever writes. All of the main female characters he wrote except maybe Bill fall into some pretty bad misogynistic stereotypes and writing in general.
@@graaaaaaaaaaaaaaace trueski.. it does all boil down to that evil little man's writing, can't wait for RT Davies to take the reins again
@@l00r0lll Incorporating trueski into my vocabulary ngl. Were you on tumblr in the 2010s?
The temple of Atrapos has existed existed long before Jodie Whittaker’s series. It’s actually a key event in gallifreyan lore, it’s to do with how the time lords managed and controlled time, it’s referenced in certain books, but you can find it explained in certain videos on gallifreyan lore.
I freaking loved modern Doctor Who, until Chibnall era, and I quickly stopped watching it after series 12 began. Jodie does seem great tho. She truly seemed great, its the writing that sucks. I remember Moffat talking about how Classic Who must have died from bad writing, and its risky rn. I'm very glad RTD is back!
I couldn't agree more.
The Long Song Montage of amazing cinematography hit me like a truck, it was beautiful and emotional and the shots were stellar, I think you could release it in isolation without the captions/rankings tbh, thank you for that :)
I got a little teary watching this at several points. To see such appreciation and attention to detail is truly wonderful. And thank you for emphasizing how important it is to find the good in everything and form your own opinions.
Also - I struggled with 12’s era despite loving Peter Capaldi and your video has motivated me to rewatch all of his seasons with a fresh mindset.🤍
Happy to hear my outlook has convinced you to give him a second chance. I swear its worth it. Even in the weak episodes, Capaldi and Clara have some fantastic moments. Thank you so much for watching! I'm so happy it moved you at points.
I first watched Doctor Who at primary school.
I had a hate for the show, never watched it prior but continued to hate it for no reason.
My teacher asked us all in the class wether we wanted to watch Doctor Who (to be specific Season 1: Rose) or Tintin.
I was begging to watch Tintin instead of DW, but everyone voted against me.
So we watched DW and I was captivated.
My classmates truly changed my life as a 8 year old by voting against me.
I’m now addicted to Doctor Who, proud and has been for over 7-8 years of my life. I have also watched the show, estimated, over 300 times. Never skipped an episode: okay, maybe one or two as I didn’t like them.
Doctor Who is different. It’s comedic, educational, entertaining, action packed, adventurous, science fiction, and tells a moral story every Saturday or Sunday.
There isn’t any other show like it, and that’s the premise I think. Doctor Who is everything, and can still be different.
Wonder If you still hold this opinion now😂
Holy crap this was the most beautiful and engaging video essay I've ever watched. I nearly cried at the your favourite cinematography and have always loved the music of Doctor Who, I would listen to the music when feeling down or playing chill out games. E.g. Face of Boe theme, Rings of Ahkaten and This is Gallifrey. Thanks to Doctor Who is changed my childhood forever and thanks to your video you've further showed my why it's so much better then I thought before. Because of the Chinball era (the dark times) I'm starting to watch the classic Who for the first time and I'm really enjoying it (nearly finished season 2). Thank u for making this video and hope to see more in the future.
Awesome! So great to hear you took the Classic plunge! It's a scary thing because its a lot different but it is just as good and clearly made by people who care. Don't give up on it! And it's especially great to hear that you loved the video. I put soo much of myself into it, and the positive reception is incredible. Thank you so much!
The music is so special to Doctor who. Murray Gold has to be hired back for Doctor who or marvel. The music choices adds so much to the story.
What a show, and what a great and well put together video. Great job dood :)
I totally agreed on everything you said about Chibnall's era, however I think EVE OF THE DALEKS was his best episode and a good Doctor Who episode
Doctor Who harbors so many good memories for me. It was the show that first brought my best friend and I together, a show that got me more interested in storytelling, a show that formed my philosophy and my views on the world. I absolutely have to agree with you, Doctor Who is, without a doubt, the greatest show of all time, and I'm so happy to find other people who feel the same way.
So happy you feel as strongly as I do about it. It's a show that just cannot be wasted. It has so much wonder, and purpose, and emotion. I hope Russell will manage to capture that again.
This is... absolutely beautiful. I have had an obsession with doctor who ever since my older brother introduced me to it and I started really watching it at the beginning of the pandemic and I haven't stopped ever since. You captured everything I think about the show in this video and I love you for it😭 thank you so much for making this dude it almost brought me to tears😭💜 doctor who has been there for me through depression and bad relationships and is really my comfort show and it just means so much to me. It's amazing to find people that also feel as passionate about the show as I do. :)
This video appeared in my recommended this afternoon, and I clicked on it immediately because I share the sentiment of the title unbelievably. I started watching series 3 when I was 5 and Doctor Who has been one of the most important things in my life for the last 15 years. Thank you for such a beautiful video; thank you for being so open and heartfelt. This was without a doubt the best Xmas present I got this year (up there with a collection of signatures from all the actors to play the Doctor, hehee), Heck this is my favourite video essay of all time.
Thank YOU for watching! I'm so insanely happy that the video was able to live up to your impressions!
I love all of dr who, the chibnall era included. It will always have a place in my heart. It made me into the weirdo I am today. I....honestly don't know how to fully put it into words.
Holy crap dude, that was probably one of the most well structured videos I've ever seen, not only on Doctor Who but in general, thank you so much for making this video, you laid out the basics and explained the complex perfectly, I'm going to have to watch this a few times just to take everything in and learn all of it, you know what Doctor Who should be and when it succeeds in being its best, all I can say is well done so, Well Done.
While I didn't agree with some of your opinions, this is a masterpiece of a video and I think that just makes me love it more. DW is a great show because of its ability to be loved and interpreted in many different ways, by all different kinds of people. I'm just in love with this entire video and how it really encapsulates the passion I, and many others, feel about this show while also explaining in such a way that new fans or people who haven't really seen it can grasp the love the fandom has. Thank you for all your hard work in making such a great video essay.
This video was very special to me, I have been with this show since I can remember back in Rose of series 1, Doctor Who has been the most important piece of media in my life, and forever will be in my heart, this video perfectly showcases what Doctor Who means to me, you and so many others. Thank you :)
Thank YOU! Honestly, to dedicate your time to my video blows my mind. Thank you so much for watching! Genuinely.
I wanted to comment but I'm not really sure what to say. Just wow. Thanks for the past 3 hours.
I’d recommend getting into the classic series if you haven’t yet, it’s a bit slower but worth it. I love how the character of the doctor changes through his life, like how 1 was a borderline sociopathic antihero that needed to learn compassion. I could gush on just the first doctor alone for many more hours than this video, feel like his doctor is super underrated but to put it shortly.
1st doctor was a major jerk to all alien life at first because he was raised that the time lords were superior in almost every way, especially intellect, but throughout his travels, with Ian and Barbra he grew to understand what they had was compassion something he was very much lacking and he started to appreciate humanity for teaching him the lesson that all life is precious. which is why throughout his life he works so hard to save the earth.
It also explains the dynamic between the master and the doctor as the Doctor was Just as cold as the master towards other life forms as he saw them beneath him, which is why the doctor tries so hard to show him the right path as the doctor could've ended up exactly like the master had the right die of fate been tossed. his character went from a cranky old man with a superiority complex to someone who values the friendships he's made on the way.
Just to highlight how significant of an arc this doctor had on other doctors in the second or third episode ever the doctor tried to KILL a caveman because he was afraid that seems weird to think of any doctor doing tbh but it’s important to understand his character. Towards the end of his run, he has learned to completely appreciate and love humanity. 10th doctor said once loosely paraphrased “When you're a kid you always have to act all stern and mature to try to be ‘adult’ but slowly over time you learn that you don’t have to act grumpy to be an adult you can be a bit childish” throughout the first doctor’s life you see him slowly shed his stern demeanor for a more jolly Santa clause Esque demeanor.
IMO he has one of the cleanest and best arcs of any doctor, and this arc defines the rest of the doctor’s arcs. I know I don’t have to tell you but for anyone else reading this. The doctor’s personality can change from calm to wild and manic but his core moral philosophy stays the same throughout regenerations unless it’s fundamentally challenged by argumentation or circumstance, which is why you're never going to have one doctor randomly say I think murder is good always. So the first doctor’s arc IMO is still the fundamental building block of the doctor’s moral ethics and code. All this to say I’d recommend watching the classic Who the 10th Doctor is my favorite Doctor, and I love how it got me into classic, but I’d highly recommend classic as not only does it give depth to the character genuinely has great episodes.
Thanks. I didn’t know all that about the 1st Doctor, but it makes complete sense that he starts like a genius sociopath and he was raised that way but through the show he comes to appreciate the value of life and compassion. I’ve never watched any classic who, so, thanx for reminding me to give it a try!
@@topdog5252 A genius sociopath? What?
@@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 Hexogram :D said he was a ‘borderline sociopathic antihero that needed to learn compassion.’ That’s a cool arc if he then goes and becomes the Doctor
@@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 yeah the term “a genius sociopath” perfectly describes the early first doctor I’d say it was around “edge of destruction” when we see him start to slowly manifest into a better person. Not full throttle mind you, but he shows respect and care for Ian and Barbara towards the end of that serial, and genuine remorse. Although despite being more compassionate, and even more open minded now he still has grumpy stern old man attitude. It isn’t until the dalek invasion of earth where we seen him finally shed that grumpy old man exterior and be a bit more jolly and happy, because of Susan’s (his granddaughter) departure. He wanted to be a bit more jolly because it reminded him of Susan, and it was his way of honoring her to try to become better than being a curmudgeonly old man. Again non of this is full throttle you still see a bit of sternness but this is the start decline of the grumpy first doctor and the start of the jolly first doctor.
If you'd like some more Capaldi, I can't recommend The Thick of It enough. It's a completely different but no less nuanced and skilful performance from one of the best living actors.
Capaldi is so amazing
Bringing back the First 'Hartnell' Doctor played by David Bradley, that would be my choice for the 60th anniversary.
Man, I want EVERY Doctor this time!
I love Doctor Who. So, when it came time to do a monolog for drama club, I knew I had to do a Doctor Who Speech.
It was between Where I Fall or The Regeneration Speech by Peter Capaldi and The Regeneration Speech by Matt Smith. I decided to just try the Where I Fall Speech because I wanted to, and there were no other actors needed for it.
My drama instructor immediately told me I had to do that speech for the Night of Scenes.
So, I'd like to thank Doctor Who for that moment. Thank you, Peter Capaldi, for the amazing performance so that even if mine was a pale imitation, it still was decent.
Oh my GOD. This absolutely blew me away. I know this phrase gets thrown around a lot, but I feel like I know you through this--not just feel like. I do.
I lost my brother to suicide, so I know the pain of that exact specific hell. But even more than that is the beautiful way this is structured and presented and written; it completely blew me away. It was respectful of different opinions, such as with when you talked about the show's romance. I remember supporting the romance when I first saw it, years ago (and I'm asexual so I didnt like it simply becausw they were "hot") but perhaps I would feel differently if I revisited it now. Your section about what it means to you made me cry. And I'm crying now as I dictate this into my phone, and it made me cry as I tried to explain to two other people after I just finished watching it.
Your message at the end to us thanking us for our time has never felt so personal and well-earned. This entire video essay had an incredible emotional momentum that made watching it in one sitting easy and compelling. You look at the ups and downs in an objective way and even had a character arc of your own in this by learning from your past video essay. It is humbling and graceful and beautiful. This is one of the best of Anything that I have ever seen--book, movie, anything. Art reflects so much, and you bore your soul here.
Your essay quote about art is one of the most incredible things I've EVER heard. I want to give you a giant hug. I want to write you a 12-page handwritten letter. I want to get you lunch. I want to have a very long conversation with you. You are one of the most incredible people I've known and I've never even met you real life. I thought I would be done crying by the time I'd finished writing this, but no. This is one of the most emotional pieces of criticism, of writing, of art, that I have ever seen. It has emotionally struck me like nothing else I've ever experienced-- not even Doctor Who itself. This is a magnum opus of art. You are invitation to talk because there should be no wall was astonishing and wonderful and absolutely magical. I'm definitely going to tell everyone I know about this video (it deserves millions upon millions of views.) This has shook me to my very core, and I will remain so.
(If it is showing that I edited the message, it's only because weird black lines appeared and I had to make them go away.)
God, now I'm crying.
Allow me to offer my deepest condolences to you. I'm sorry about your brother, truly, and I hope things are better now. I'm sure the memory of him is no longer a sad one, no matter how difficult it was at the time. If not, I'm sure things will be better soon.
Man, I feel like I have to match your emotional intensity now, haha. Thank you so much for your kind words. No, thanks doesn't even remotely cover it. To express your side of the story, to further the discussion and allow yourself to be deeply moved by my video is a vulnerability I do not remotely deserve. But I am deeply grateful. "Art lives in the connection between the artist and his fellow man." and this is precisely it. This connection. You and me. This is the reason I made this. You are the reason I made this. I can't thank you ENOUGH for your heart. For this video to touch someone like you so closely and deeply is an invaluable gift. It speaks so much of the immortal vessel of Doctor Who. That you and I as people can reside in this world and be touched by both the show and each other's stories is incredible.
My DM's on both Instagram and Discord are always open if you wanna make that long conversation a reality.
I can't say it ENOUGH. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I'm so happy you loved it! Wishing you a wonderful day (or night) and an (almost) Happy New Year!
@@Brub52 Oh my gosh, your reply made my night. I've been thinking about it all day. I'd love to talk with you on Discord! I have three days free for the New Year's holiday and live in the central time zone of the U.S. I'm not sure where to find you on Discord, though--I'd LOVE to talk more!
discord.gg/UPCs5FdRGm My Discord server. I can find you through here.
I enjoyed this quite a lot. Really like the way you explained and illustrated your views - I may not always share all of them 120% but I felt myself nodding in agreement so much (goddammit the music is chef's kiss). Irrationally glad that you're not one of those that blame Jodie for... whatever happened there - thank you for that. Also, excuse you, I am 40 and DoctorRose (not just TenRose!) has been one of my OTPs for more than 15 years, so there ;P
oh shit
I've quite literally grown up with Doctor Who (it came back in 2005) and it means the universe to me. There isn't a single episode I've disliked. I remember 11 being the Doctor I really resonated with, but I like all of them. 10 being the one I like least, and 11 tied with 12 for the one I like most. The Chibnall era is honestly one of my favourites and it makes me so sad to see all the hate for it (I stopped watching right before that section started). I disagree with all the criticisms and 13 is one of my favourite Doctors. I love the show too much to tolerate any hate/criticism towards it. I refuse to watch the unnecessarily long Jay Exci video. 6 hours is just ridiculous. Just say you don't like it, don't stretch it out to almost the length of Everywhere At The End of Time! That just comes off as pretentious! No way in HELL am I EVER watching it!
I love the whole show (2005 onwards) and I won't hear a word against it. It's flawless and I spit on the 'not the same without x' comments. Yes, it's the greatest show ever made. No, the Chibnall era was nowhere near as bad as everyone made it out to be. The hate is completely unjustified as far as I'm concerned and I refuse to entertain any negativity towards it.
I don't like the look of the specials from what the trailer shows. It feels like complete nostalgia bait.
I’m not saying you can’t like the Chibnall era, but if you don’t understand the criticism with the era and 13 as the doctor then you need to look at some in depth reviews of the era.
@@callumocreary1253 It's not that I don't understand the criticism, it's that I completely disagree with it.
Did you even read more than five lines of my comment?
Thank you so much for your effort it’s amazing and so great to see people engaged and enjoying doctor who it’s so inspiring and you’ve absolutely smashed it
Well done you’ve got a future in this
Dude I know I’m late but geez this was an excellent video essay, it’s clear you’ve learned a lot and become a great writer and script writer. Thx for the fun 3 hrs!
Really good! We have different favorite writers and ranks, and I suppose I'm a 'teenage girl' (not for decades) so it's especially interesting to hear your impressions, which are quite astute at times. The delight in this show comes through in your voice, which is not something one always finds here. Only thing I'll mention is I think you may underestimate the viewer's ability to understand your points at times, but I'm an over-emphasizer too ;-)
Great damn job. Long-format RULES!
Yeah, when you make a video as just unwaveringly broad in terms of genre, I have to be precise. The scariest part of the original video in retrospect is how much I banked on someone's previous knowledge in the show, alienating newbies. I'm happy it ended up catering to both parties and of course, glad to hear you loved it. I hope referring to the Tenrose shippers as "teenage girls" wasn't too rude. I can totally see where the appeal is and I'm happy you spoke up! Thanks so much for watching.
@@Brub52 Rude? Lol - an accurate assessment says THIS old broad; we're suckers for romances, but my favorite pairing is forever Ten and Donna.
(btw we have the same 3 favorites, my order is just different.)
~ You should rename this the Christmas Special ~
You forgot to mention 1996 tv movie with Paul McGann plus Liz Sladen as Sarah Jane Smith (RIP)
Okay, having seen the whole thing, time for my real comment:
First off, thank you for making this! I love long form content and I think this topic deserves it! There are a lot of videos about the failings of the Chibnall era and discussions of how Doctor Who has gotten worse, but I think this video is unique in spending the majority of it's runtime talking about the strengths of the franchise, the highlights and the great moments.
Next, welcome to the Colin Baker defense squad, good to have another member....lmao. I think he's iconic.
In regards to the romance aspect, while I was someone who was more neutral on the Ten/Rose arc (although my best friend is a die hard for it) and not into the Eleven/Clara arc (but I also feel like that one was wayyyy more implication than explicit), I do think there's merit in including romance as a concept. I don't think the Doctor always needs to be a romantic lead, and often I prefer the asexual representations, but I get it in terms of theme exploration. However, I am curious what your thoughts are on the Doctor's romantic relationship with River are. I noticed you didn't mention it but did include that clip from the Singing Towers (which I thought was really well done). Is it different for you because she's not exactly the same as humans? Personally, I wish more of that arc had been on the Capaldi side of that regeneration if only because I think Peter had more chemistry with her than Matt, but maybe that's just my bias as a Capaldi stan. That, and I thought Husbands of River Song was quite good. I also liked her intro episode with Tennant.
I thought it was funny you mentioned a 'Gridlock' quality level. Gridlock, to me, is a bit underrated. Interesting concept, weird episode for 80% of the run time, but it does give us "you should have seen it, that old planet" which is an awesome Tennant moment.
I definitely agree that DW is missing something without Murray Gold 😭.
Overall, this was a great watch! Made my work day nicer!
Yeah, River is different in a lot of ways. Mainly because she's not quite a human, as you called. She's part time-lord, interwoven with the Doctor's life more closely, and is more intelligent and capable than the standard human. Even if I don't love the Doctor/Companion romance, I think River is a perfect example of why it has some merit, and I respect that. I may not find the River/Doctor dynamic the most moving romantic connection in Doctor Who (Amy and Rory 100% are the best) but I DO think its a lot of fun to watch. Maybe hypocritical, but who's keeping score?
I also agree that Gridlock is really underrated! I realized that I kinda insulted that episode when comparing it to Villa Diodati in retrospect, but let it not be disregarded, Gridlock is super fun! As is Villa Diodati.
So glad to hear you loved it. I live for comments like this (not specifically the positive reception, but the alternate viewpoint as well) I think the clash in perspectives is awesome. So happy it lived up to the hype, and I hope this video continues to have a prosperous future. Thanks again for watching!
Hello random person! I agree, just saw Trial of a Time Lord and it's up there with my favorite stories. 6 is such a good Doctor.
Colin is brilliant as the Doctor imo.
6 and Evelyn Smythe are one of the best TARDIS teams (they just bounce off each other so well).
Another based Capaldi stan!
This was wonderfully made. Thank you. As a 51yo female i remember being around 10yo, counting down the seconds until my father would come home Saturday night and would sit down, just he and me to watch this unknown show. Every single Saturday night at 11:00 pm. It was our time. He unfortunately died 10 yeas ago. Until his death this was our special hour that lasted all of our lives. The last half hour of this brought tears to m eyes. Both in good and bad ways. As a weird kid that no one knew what I was talking about to an adult whose best and worst memories are tied to this word. The last half an hour of your cast it was wonderful, sad, amazing, and depressing. All the things that this weird sci Fi show is/was/ will always be and as you said life with all the dull bits gone. Thank you again for something so succinctly put and enjoyed. Even through the tears.
You're the first person to share my love for heaven sent this much, I wrote a 3,000 word essay on just Heaven Sent for film class, what a good video 👏
Omg I presented the Zygon Inversion Speech and dissected it for Film Club in high school. 👀
I fell off after Matt Smith regenerated. I first found Doctor Who in the lead up to Series 5, after a chance encounter and watch of Waters of Mars. I had researched the show enough to learn that regeneration was a thing and a normal part of the show and even watched a handful of Series 1-4 in the short time before Series 5, just because it drew me in that much and I was too impatient to wait till the release date while having a decent back catalogue 1 click away.
All this to say, I knew Matt Smith wouldn't stay forever. I knew he would eventually leave. I knew that it would be unfair to give his successor any shit just for not being "my Doctor", because I saw that exact same thing happening after David Tennant left. But I guess all the foresight in the world can't really prepare you for the day it happens. I loved Matt Smith's final swing at the role, and I was still uncharacteristically sad when it happened.
Not wanting to be part of a repeat from when people doubted Matt Smith, I silently dropped from the show, instead of continuing to hate-watch it. I wouldn't come back to the Capaldi era until about last month. And boy... What a ride. My loyalty to Matt Smith as *my* Doctor makes me not want to say the following, but I think you're absolutely right. Peter Capaldi definitively played the role more perfect than all his predecessors. I'm disappointed in myself for not watching while it aired, but it was a huge relief to not have to wait at all for the next episode. I binged the 12 Doctor's era like a drug.
I basically have no disagreements with anything in 3 hours. I especially agree with everything about Chibnall. I'm still finishing up the last of the flux. I've tried so hard to like the 13th Doctor, but Chibnall made her such a shallow shadow of her former self. Jodie was robbed of what should've been the role of a lifetime. Anyone who would've played the Doctor, male or female, would have been robbed under Chibnall's run. I still had fun watching, but only if I didn't think about it. Because it just falls apart too fast under any amount of scrutiny.
TL;DR Fantastic video. It was great to go back down memory lane. Murray Gold is a living legend. And I'm sorry to hear about your friend. I hope you're at the other side of your Azbantium wall, and your memories with them are joyful again.
Thoroughly enjoyed the whole video. That ending montage was particularly brilliant. I grew up during the Tom Baker era of Dr Who and watched it slowly deteriorate until it's cancellation all those years ago. I feel this new Dr Who has gone from strength to strength... until now. Unfortunately, it feels now as it did then when it was time to put it back on the shelf for awhile until the time comes again to revive it for a new audience with new talent.
it will most likely happen after Davies’ run is finished
Just wanted to cast my opinion on the love stuff in the show. As an aromanic asexual myself, I latched onto the idea of the doctor and hated the idea of him being romantically inclined. That being said, I found that unless I'm actively looking for it or it's explicitly said, I don't notice. I often have a hard time telling when someone likes me and for the love scenes I push that on to the Doctor. I figured that him being a different species and from a different planet would make him even more clueless as to what is considered romantic even if he's being kissed or told that they're in love with him. For Rose, one of the companions the Doctor loved, I take her send off not as the Doctor loving her romantically but platonically, and the human Doctor being a different person from our Doctor. I love taking his love interests as people he likes, people he'll miss, and people that he cares for and wants to travel with for the rest of his life. River. I love River and I'm actually happy that they got married because marriage isn't always romantic. River is a very open person and often uses the pet name sweetie with the Doctor. I like to think that they had a sit down and discussed what they were comfortable with. [A common misconception for asexuals is that they hate sex, which could be true but that usually depends on the person. An example I can give is: think of an inanimate object or an animal. Depending on what you think about and your personal preferences, you may "love" it or you may hate it but you aren't in love with it. (If you are, think of something else) I find that I like cookies (people) and I like eating (having sex) them, but I think that eating (having sex) is a chore and I usually only eat (have sex) them if they're close to going bad(my partner wants to).] This can be said about the relationship between River and the Doctor. There's nothing romantic there but they still kiss and (probably) have sex because they're comfortable enough to do that with each other.
This is just my take on the Doctor and if you don't agree with it then that's fine. Honestly, if the Doctor fell in love with every companion if would open up a world full of angst and I'm all for that, but I can't help but shove my preferences at him in order to relate to him more. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. lol
This was three hours well spent! And perfect to watch on the last day of 2021. I agree with you on just about everything, but have a suggestion. We need to stop mourning the “timeless child “ and look forward to how it will evolve in the hands of RTD. So many possibilities!
I mean, I was pretty much talking about exactly what you're saying in the closer. There was very minimal moaning. Happy you loved it!
I think the bulk of this essay is very good, even if i have different opinions in areas - however, i do think that the dismissive way the romance part is discussed as something just "for teenage girls" really rubs me the wrong way. Firstly, because of the general societal dismissial of anything for women and young women especially - as if its lesser or not worth as much genuine thought or consideration. Secondly, as some other comments have pointed out, that i feel they were misrepresented and not properly examined as what those dynamics for both the characters and the arcs of those stories. I dont believe it was intentional, but something to consider moving forward when examining these things. We can investigate and respect and understand things that arent for us or arent our cup of tea - and i think Doctor Who is a great show to challenge our own perspectives and viewpoints because its baked into the series!
Look forward for future content still, this was otherwise really well made!
John, I’ve never watched your videos before, but this held my attention more than any other long form Doctor Who video essay I’ve ever watched. Jay’s great, Harbo’s great - but you show your criticism not only with how story telling should be done, but with your heart and your emotion. Like you, I’m a musician, and I adore Murray Gold’s music. I agree that Murray Gold is one of the most integral parts of modern Doctor Who’s storytelling, and it is such a loss to the show and it’s audience to see him gone. Here’s hoping he’ll return with RTD.
I respect so much that this isn’t just a critique of Chibnall’s Who, and that it’s more an essay about what makes Doctor Who what it is, and why you and so many of us love it. I’ve never thought that the Waters of Mars could never be done again, and you’re right. I’d not much thought of the cinematography of this show, and how it is, in fact, a piece of art work.
Doctor Who means the world to me, and as you say, it’s in my DNA - but you’ve shown me how much more it means to me than I realised.
I’m so so sorry for your loss, it’s not something I’ve ever had to go through and I can’t imagine how hard it was for you, so I’m so glad that you found something to fall back on when all hope seems lost. In the words of the eleventh Doctor: “Every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant…” and you definitely added to my pile of good things.
I wish you the very best, and thank you.
Don’t tell anybody, but the keyboard is only for decoration. I can play the first bit of Moonlight Sonata and a few Minecraft songs, that’s pretty much all the use it sees. Still, I have a great deal of respect and love for the craft of music and Murray Gold is what I believe to be the best Orchestral Composer of the Modern Day. Continue following your passion, my friend, as music is such a big part of the world of art and I’m sure you have something fantastic to offer, as I feel that same pull for visual arts and cinematography.
Thank you so much for you kind words. It’s a great thing to receive such positive reception, and to have my video compel you to see how truly great Doctor Who is and NOT ONLY keep your attention all the way through but also keep you invested and entertained is all I ever wanted. I thank you graciously and hope that wherever life leads you that you stay steadfast to the things that make you happy at all costs. Live life the way the Doctor does, continue to grow and learn and refine to become the best person you can be.
And again, thank you so much for watching.
If Jodie Whitaker's Doctor Who was written for children why does the intro theme and the episodes resonate towards a PG-13 audience rather than a G audience? I just think it didn't work for Jodie Whitaker because she wasn't looking for her own character, she adopted one from the long line of her predecessors. Even though it's written from the same character every individual Doctor Who(except for Capaldi because I never was able to get to know his) has his own perception as the Doctor. Jodie Whitaker didn't. There's a possibility she didn't know how to? Idk.
The Long Song is just... simply mindblowing... so incredibly moving like no other show can do it like Doctor Who I'm telling ya
"its not for me, it's for laughs teenager girls"
This. This opinion right there is so shallow when looking at rhis subject. And i think, not only referring to the doctor who fanbase, but boys and men in general would have so much to gain if they let go of this kind of ideas.
1. "Eww romance is girl stuff" i really thought we were past this kind of reactions by now. It just sounds so dismissive for so many different reasons. From male fans thinking they are superior/have superior taste because they dont care about the "romance for girls" stuff to assuming only girls are the target of it, specially in RTD era, RTD being a gay man who literally gifted us Jack Harkness and was not afraid of writing the doctor actually showing his feelings. You know, since men are allowed to show their emotions and actually like sensible and romantic storylines.
2. This whole misconception of the doctor being a superior being thus not "doing romance". I think seeing the doctor as a superior being is already missing a bit of the character's point, but anyway, where did yall get it from, that the doctor doesn't do romance? Not only is "The Doctor Dances" not about dancing, but in the classic series he has a literal granddaughter. And why is it that some men keep labeling romance as something below them, as if doing romance somehow makes the doctor lesser?
I completely understand and respect anyone who doesn't like love stories as a genre, but to label romance as "cringe stuff for little girls" or thinking a timelord couldn't have a romance because it's below him its so.....?
The Nuwho is all about the doctors learning how to heal themselves and they all do it through their relationships, friendships, enemies, themselves and romantic. The doctor falling in love with Rose, Clara and River is not a plot "intended to entertain teenager girls" because teenager girls are also very much interested in the sci-fi and teenager boys can very much like the romantic subplot. The romantic relationships are important plotlines that literally allowed nuwho to exist. Rose helps War Criminal Ninth to feel like the doctor again, Clara helps isolated Eleventh to find his way back to his desire for help.
Again, yall are losing so much by keeping this prejudiced mentality
I really liked this video, but I do agree with you here. I've seen a couple of other men on the internet say stuff similar to this and they way they say it feels dismissive. I think the romances do bring a lot to the show and the Doctor's character and its a bit frustrating to see the condescending way that some people talk about these arcs. I doubt the video is meant to be dismissive of women and girls and I totally understand if it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I do wish people, especially men, would be a touch more thoughtful of how they talk about this stuff.
I just prefer the dynamic that was with companions in classic who.
What a beautiful love letter to, yes, the greatest TV show ever. Oh! And have a subscription! :)
wow. Just the absolute passion and love that went into making this video that truly is a love letter to doctor who, the greatest show about everything. Besides the depressing chibnal segment you just had me gushing along side you about every bit of the show that we love so much. Doctor who has been a part of my life as far back as my memory goes and I could never imagine life without it. You can really tell how much love and passion went into making this video and here's to hopefully a long and brilliant future to the show!
So I just watched this entire video. I am a huge fan of the classic series as well, and even though that isn't the focus of your video, you still managed to capture what the core of the show is. All of it. I do think you are a little hard on the chibnall era but I agree with most all of the points that you made. I do have hope that the next era will blow us all away. Until then I would suggest you watch the 3rd and fourth doctor's runs. They are different but wonderful and there's a reason most people treat it as the golden age of the classic era. I hope you had a merry christmas, and I hope you have a happy new year.
Right there with you, man. I've broken into Classic quite a bit, I think I undersold my knowledge of it in this video. I jump around a lot but I've seen a ton of Tom Baker, Patrick Troughton, and Colin Baker. I've seen smaller bits of Hartnell, Pertwee, Davison, and McCoy. So I know bits of every single classic Doctor and am more at home with others of them. Still, haven't made my way though a whole series of Classic aside from Trial of a Timelord and Season 12. But yeah, I love it. Don't let my exclusion of it make you believe I don't love it. I'm just infinitely more familiar with Modern. Thanks for watching anyways! Good to hear that a Classic diehard loved the essay. I put so much work into it. Sending the Happy New Year wishes back your way, man. Thanks for watching.
Thank you from the deepest of my heart for being one of the few people to mention how bad the modern cinematography fits Doctor Who. You are right in every aspect that it does not fit Who, and I appreciate you have said what I was thinking so well. I also just gotta the bit where you talk about music, and again you have said it very well. Murray Gold is the guy, the sound of Who
Lol love your name Dalek Caan
this was actually pretty good personally i think doctor who will come back , it always does.
I absolutely agree. Doctor Who will live forever.
NO ONE should watch the chibnall era
55:20 For me, that was a crucial scene. How much Amy has to throw herself at the Doctor for the hints to even begin to land. A necessary step after 10 and Rose etc...
I love Matt's epiphany, as he finally understands her meaning, re-establishing 11's asexuality and essentially alien nature. I love the 'banter' between Clara and 12. With his obliviousness to Clara's appearance etc... It's magical to be able to trade observations with a friend and not offend on either part...
Doctror Who and Ultraman are both powerhouses of TV shows
Both are 60's sci-fi shows with an alien protagonist and both are still on-going to this very day
Both shows even "changes" their protagonist but not the same way as Doctor Who does..but i still find it interesting
I love that part
"No one should have that much power"
"Tough"
"A Time Lord Victorious"
"And there's no one to stop you"
In my opinion why should there be.
The Doctor, whether or not u think he is, is always in his right mind. He deals with Cains all the time when he's always Abel.
here i leave another comment yet again expressing my love for this video. you rock Brub
Oh, I am SO happy to be viewing this wonderful in depth look at MY favorite TV show (and I'm only half way through) and also a life long obsession.
I became a fan of Doctor Who in December 1963!!! the same weekend JFK was assassinated
Yup I'm getting on! But my point being, living through the Classic years, to go through the Cancelled years and then to be reintroduced back into this long lost, familiar world in 2005 was nothing short of astounding!
It was BACK, fronted by "Queers as Folk" legend, RTD. Whovians, worldwide sighed a sigh of relief.
I hear it in your passion Brub, you realise, that, once a Doctor Who fan, always a Doctor Who fan. You fall in love with the character and not the actor/actress playing the part.
Just love and appreciate it for what it is, even if some of the odd scripts don't measure up. That's irrelevant.
It becomes about a life long relationship with someone who has always been there.
I really love this Next generation Appreciation.
Thanks, I am so happy, you get it ;) Best wishes from Edinburgh.
Beautifully articulated, my friend. I absolutely agree.
This and the death battle episode, made me rewatch doctor who and watch classic who for the first time. So thank you.