Lovely to see your content again, been a long time since last. Love the full game videos. Unfortunately, as you've probably seen yourself during editing. The lightning was horrible, and the cards are not visible at the end with the playthrough. Anyway love your explanations. In me and my partner system, we run 2clubs as either 20+ or 8,5 playing tricks. It's not uncommon to do so in Norway, it's never 20+ balanced, as balanced is under multi 2diamonds -> rebid 2NT. So we know that our partner has either 20+ unbalanced or 22+ balanced, or a really good distributional hand with 8,5 playing tricks
This one hurts to end in 3NT. An absurdly strong hand with a solid partner hand. Obviously lucky how the cards fell for a 6NT contract to succeed. You could have easily made 4NT or 5NT, but as you said, it's hard to end the bidding on one of those.
Hi Joshua, I agree it hurts with such good hands, but it is the correct contract. No bonus points scored for being in 4NT or 5NT, so the only question is: is there enough for 6NT? The answer is no, albeit that you can actually make 12 tricks due to the fortuitous lie in spades. Cheers, Dom
4 NT would definitely be quantitative and should be bid. With the minimum 10 count partner will pass and that's that! Favorable layout produces 12 tricks but you have reached the right contract!
@@irenefoley1383 Hi Irene, Yes, we noticed the light on the dummy after recording! We have done our best to edit the footage to help, but thought it was better to upload the content rather than delete it and have our day's work be wasted! Future videos will definitely avoid this problem! Dom
@tuxtommy69 Hi Tommy, It depends at what point you are referring to bidding 4NT and it also depends on the partnership agreement. Assuming you mean for North to bid 4NT after South has bid 3NT, then yes, this could be played as Quantitative, but the difficulty here is just what 'quantity' are you after from your partner. Normally a Quantitative 4NT bid is directly preceded a limited range NT bid (like 12-14 or 15-17 etc.) so the question in these examples is obvious: are you nearer the top or the bottom of your range. In this instance, the responder's range is not well defined, other than it will be 10+, so what exactly is a Quantitative 4NT looking for here? What 'quantity' are you after from South to bid 6NT? I suppose with partnership agreement in place, you could agree that a 4NT bid after 3NT says something like 'bid 6NT with 4 points more than minimum', which, in this instance, gets North-South to the desired 33 points for a 6NT contract, but even then, there is no guarantee that a small slam in NTs will make. The key thing to notice on this hand is the complete lack of a fit. South has the best case scenario in spades which is a singleton (they could have been void) and even then, you need spades or indeed hearts to break 3-3 for 6NT to make here. Even if you give South the AD to make their hand strong enough to be interested in a NT slam (14 points opposite 19), it is still not a good contract as you require a 3-3 break in hearts or spades, and that is only because South has a small spade, which there is no guarantee for them to have! Long story, short: NT slams are rare because making lots of tricks without a fit is tricky, and North-South knowing that there is a lack of fit leads to them bidding the safe (and correct) contract, which is only game. Hope that helps, Dom
Lovely to see your content again, been a long time since last. Love the full game videos.
Unfortunately, as you've probably seen yourself during editing. The lightning was horrible, and the cards are not visible at the end with the playthrough.
Anyway love your explanations. In me and my partner system, we run 2clubs as either 20+ or 8,5 playing tricks. It's not uncommon to do so in Norway, it's never 20+ balanced, as balanced is under multi 2diamonds -> rebid 2NT. So we know that our partner has either 20+ unbalanced or 22+ balanced, or a really good distributional hand with 8,5 playing tricks
This one hurts to end in 3NT. An absurdly strong hand with a solid partner hand. Obviously lucky how the cards fell for a 6NT contract to succeed. You could have easily made 4NT or 5NT, but as you said, it's hard to end the bidding on one of those.
Hi Joshua,
I agree it hurts with such good hands, but it is the correct contract. No bonus points scored for being in 4NT or 5NT, so the only question is: is there enough for 6NT? The answer is no, albeit that you can actually make 12 tricks due to the fortuitous lie in spades.
Cheers,
Dom
4 NT would definitely be quantitative and should be bid. With the minimum 10 count partner will pass and that's that! Favorable layout produces 12 tricks but you have reached the right contract!
We play it as quantitive too, bid 6NT with extras sort of ask.
But I guess many play it as regular blackwood.
Great commentary, thanks but couldn’t see dummy as light shining on it . Keep up with the excellent videos .
@@irenefoley1383
Hi Irene,
Yes, we noticed the light on the dummy after recording! We have done our best to edit the footage to help, but thought it was better to upload the content rather than delete it and have our day's work be wasted!
Future videos will definitely avoid this problem!
Dom
@tuxtommy69
Hi Tommy,
It depends at what point you are referring to bidding 4NT and it also depends on the partnership agreement. Assuming you mean for North to bid 4NT after South has bid 3NT, then yes, this could be played as Quantitative, but the difficulty here is just what 'quantity' are you after from your partner. Normally a Quantitative 4NT bid is directly preceded a limited range NT bid (like 12-14 or 15-17 etc.) so the question in these examples is obvious: are you nearer the top or the bottom of your range. In this instance, the responder's range is not well defined, other than it will be 10+, so what exactly is a Quantitative 4NT looking for here? What 'quantity' are you after from South to bid 6NT? I suppose with partnership agreement in place, you could agree that a 4NT bid after 3NT says something like 'bid 6NT with 4 points more than minimum', which, in this instance, gets North-South to the desired 33 points for a 6NT contract, but even then, there is no guarantee that a small slam in NTs will make.
The key thing to notice on this hand is the complete lack of a fit. South has the best case scenario in spades which is a singleton (they could have been void) and even then, you need spades or indeed hearts to break 3-3 for 6NT to make here. Even if you give South the AD to make their hand strong enough to be interested in a NT slam (14 points opposite 19), it is still not a good contract as you require a 3-3 break in hearts or spades, and that is only because South has a small spade, which there is no guarantee for them to have!
Long story, short: NT slams are rare because making lots of tricks without a fit is tricky, and North-South knowing that there is a lack of fit leads to them bidding the safe (and correct) contract, which is only game.
Hope that helps,
Dom
i ALWAYS PLAYED 2 CLUBS 23+
Hi Paul,
Yes, it is 23+ or an unbalanced hand that is 'worth' 23+, ie a 3 loser or better.
Hope this helps,
Dom